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Speaker 1: The volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to new Rory and Maul on Netflix. I was excited.

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Speaker 2: You can never get this guy excited.

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Speaker 1: Hey we're on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the greatest of shows with this guy, live

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Speaker 2: performances that blew my mind and mall just not even

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Speaker 2: being on Netflix does anything.

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Speaker 3: It's very stoic.

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Speaker 1: It's my j prince right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we do need to do a twenty three

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Speaker 2: meters with you guys. I mean somewhere down the line.

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Speaker 2: There's some relatives, some relations for sure. But yes, welcome

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Speaker 2: to our first episode on Netflix, well, our first new one,

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Speaker 2: because we did upload some older episodes just so people

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Speaker 2: that were discovering the show could have an idea.

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Speaker 3: But we are here, We have arrived.

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Speaker 4: We are here, and then the forest of k Netflix

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Speaker 4: will never be the same?

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Speaker 1: Will readia for Netflix?

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Speaker 2: Should we do it like promote this the way they

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Speaker 2: promote all like the new podcast of like they're going

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Speaker 2: to say the craziest thing, No one's safe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when these guys get on the microphone.

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Speaker 1: The culture will shift as a result.

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Speaker 3: The tectonic plates.

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Speaker 4: Yes, nothing will be the same, but we are happy

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Speaker 4: to be here at on our new home.

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Speaker 1: Yes Netflix, So yeah, man, let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's have some fun. Yeah, I add some uh unnamed

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Speaker 2: champagne here. I'll keep the logo this way. But you know,

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Speaker 2: just I thought it was a nice, nice gesture. And

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Speaker 2: on a snow day too. I hope Netflix already Uh

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Speaker 2: we're complaining.

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Speaker 1: Alcoholics always need a reason to drink, don't they.

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Speaker 2: I think being on Netflix is a pretty good uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: pretty good thing. And I was sober through the entire

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Speaker 2: snow experience. So nobody believes that I swear to God.

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Speaker 2: Nobody believes that.

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Speaker 1: You think that helps you do? I put that on

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Speaker 1: my mama.

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Speaker 5: You don't even talk to you, you know, I said, Rory,

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Speaker 5: I said roral tweets.

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Speaker 3: Is that close to it?

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Speaker 5: I said yesterday that said it was a girl that

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Speaker 5: said I swear out my life. And the dude responded

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Speaker 5: was like, bitch, you suicidal swear on something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you are, mama already to be You need.

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Speaker 3: To monetize from Netflix alive? Can we do that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, keep it, but listen, they they write

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Speaker 2: people live on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: It's in the scripted series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true.

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Speaker 5: It's so like I think, Oh, there's an intimacy coordinator

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Speaker 5: I feel like we need an intimacy coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Is what do they do?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 5: Intimacy coordinator is someone that goes on the sets of

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Speaker 5: TV shows, movies and things like that for sex scenes

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Speaker 5: or like any type of like seeing that if those

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Speaker 5: two people, Yeah, like that.

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Speaker 3: Would make people uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Probably God.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So they like place like balls and like little

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Speaker 5: cover ups in between nipples and like they.

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Speaker 3: Make sure like cover between nipples when.

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Speaker 5: People are having sex on Netflix while they're not actually

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Speaker 5: having sex, So there needs.

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Speaker 3: To be covered.

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Speaker 1: Don't cover my nipples.

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Speaker 3: We covered my nipples for not not your nipples.

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Speaker 1: Cover her nipples?

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Speaker 3: Yes, what so that she's comfortable.

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Speaker 2: She's acting them all with pasties on and the sex

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Speaker 2: scene is just funny.

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Speaker 3: She's not really fucking like she's No.

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Speaker 4: I get that part, but I'm saying, you don't have

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Speaker 4: to cover the nipples for us to not like nobody

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Speaker 4: thinks we're really having sex.

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Speaker 5: It's not about we're not, but it's uncomfortable for the actor. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but we still see nipples though sometimes, but it's not rubbing.

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Speaker 5: I've never seen a sex scene and did not see nipples.

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 2: No, there's yes, you can have. I saw the saw

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Speaker 2: the boob and it was Pasty's on a nipple.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's.

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Speaker 2: Like hiding nipple purposely in the scene because it's not

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Speaker 2: Maybe are rated, they are covered by things like I.

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Speaker 4: Get genitalia being covered. I get that part. But I've

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Speaker 4: never seen a really.

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Speaker 1: Good sex scene.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing a scene and I'm laying on my back

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Speaker 5: and there's a man on top of me. There is

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Speaker 5: something in between my orogenous zones so that when he's

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So won't be watching that movie. You

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Speaker 1: don't see it. You don't see it. It's for that actor.

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Speaker 4: No, I can tell I know a good sex scene

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Speaker 4: versus the sexcey where they had no chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Those actors had the chemistry.

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Speaker 4: Those are the ones with the pasties and the rogin

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Speaker 4: his zone blockers. I don't want to see a sex

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Speaker 4: scene with the rogin his zone blocker.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me try to say disrespect, because I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for for Chloe Bailey. In

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Speaker 2: that scene in that show that went viral, it's pretty

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Speaker 2: much the trailer.

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Speaker 3: To to watch them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he's blowing her back out and you see

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Speaker 2: kind of her arch like the top of her cheeks.

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Speaker 2: You don't think there was like close between them there.

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Speaker 2: You can't I know that, Okay, I'm saying that if

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Speaker 2: if a woman is and she had paid, like even

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Speaker 2: though our shirt was off, she had things on her tips,

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Speaker 2: you just can't see that, Okay, Okay, all right, maybe

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Speaker 2: we're over explaining. No ononder they didn't get a mall emmy.

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Speaker 2: I doubt there's been any real I think it's like

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Speaker 2: a like union mandated.

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Speaker 3: You can't just have but ass sexies unless you're These

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Speaker 3: are not regular cups. These this is for the beer pong.

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Speaker 3: I clean them, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Marriage nobody's drinking that, don't worry about it. It looks

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Speaker 2: just for the camera.

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Speaker 4: Rodging his own blockers. That's the celebratory zone blocker.

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Speaker 2: So what what would the intimacy counselor do for our show?

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Speaker 1: Coordinator?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, made one of our sketches, Yet.

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Speaker 5: They would like make sure okay we're on. It's so

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Speaker 5: weird because we're on Netflix now and I'm like afraid,

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Speaker 5: like my aunts are tuned in for sure. All the

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Speaker 5: crazy things I would say for the YouTube community, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Over here, like you're afraid to say things on Netflix

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Speaker 4: but not YouTube.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just because I feel like Netflix is for the

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Speaker 5: like my aunts and them have Netflix, like my my

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Speaker 5: my mother has Netflix. My mother's not going to YouTube

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Speaker 5: to watch this show. Like it's just different. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: it's so easily accessible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I will say I went to my godfather's right

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Speaker 2: I can finally watch it.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you do know YouTube? Like it was

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Speaker 2: on your phone? You could have like no, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how to do that. Now, could you go on

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Speaker 2: my TV and watch it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The adults were thrilled. Where your whole older family is

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Speaker 2: going to see all the foul things that you say.

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Speaker 2: And you may want to hire an intimacy coordinator for

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Speaker 2: times like this.

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Speaker 5: For like times when Maul is like asking me if

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Speaker 5: I'm ovulating, like like I need intimacy over here, like

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Speaker 5: are you okay? Like is that okay?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: By though, like this is I can't ask if you're ovulator?

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Speaker 4: What's wrong with that? That's like a major that's like

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Speaker 4: a normal bodily, i'd s.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how the population continues. I understand. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: that you were concerned for the baby.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the side of if you're ovulating, if you're

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Speaker 4: you know, on your monthly out listen, I'm one of

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Speaker 4: those out you can take the time off, like I'm

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Speaker 4: one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: I can take this time off with I'm on my

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Speaker 3: monthly since win. I'm been onto my past for five years.

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Speaker 4: Okay, baby, if you're on your menstrul, you're on your cycle,

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Speaker 4: just send me the app so I can track it,

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Speaker 4: and then I will give you to you.

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Speaker 2: I have to be able to prove it. I have

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Speaker 2: to be able to prove it. I have to be

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Speaker 2: able to prove that she even the period apps, you

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Speaker 2: personally submit that in there, they can guess.

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Speaker 1: But the baby gives it to me. Now, I can

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Speaker 1: kind of track it now.

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Speaker 3: But what if she switches to birth control and it

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Speaker 3: changed has to control.

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Speaker 1: She has to tell me that as her as her employer,

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Speaker 1: she has to tell me that, okay, left until my monthly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so send me to the date and then I'll

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Speaker 4: track it from there and then one day if you

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Speaker 4: come me like Ma you know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm cramping. I'm not like listening. I'll check the app. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: intimisson Coordinator, right, are you.

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Speaker 3: Gonna keep pushing notifications on?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely? I want to know when baby deeds ovulating? Okay, cool?

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Speaker 5: You know that in that app you also track every

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Speaker 5: time you have sex too, So I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you want to put your push notifications on every time.

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Speaker 1: You have to know I won't get no sleep. I

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Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh, baby, baby, go to bed.

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Speaker 1: Baby D's added a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yo.

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Speaker 2: Imagine I had pushed notification, Oh baby having yo? Please

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Speaker 2: definite like yo, if you don't go, take your horny

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Speaker 2: ash to sleep?

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Speaker 3: Man, what's roll with you? It's a nasty collab calendar.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we need it, though.

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Speaker 4: We need to know when baby's not feeling well? What

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Speaker 4: the all women, not just baby, the all women. That

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Speaker 4: should be a thing. You're on your monthly you're not

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Speaker 4: feeling women should be able to stay home, man, that's

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Speaker 4: that's a natural thing.

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Speaker 2: My favorite story of when a director needed it, Intimacy

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Speaker 2: Coordinator was Dame when he got sued. And I want

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Speaker 2: to make it clear that Dame beat this case. They

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Speaker 2: never say when Dame beats the lawsuits. He was directing

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Speaker 2: a movie and he told a woman he was too

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable to talk about sex with her and director that way.

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Speaker 2: So he gave her a porno DP and say, yo,

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Speaker 2: go watch this.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, intimacy? What is it? Coordinator? Intimate?

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Speaker 2: She coordinated the way Dame explained it.

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Speaker 3: He was like, no, I was doing the respectful thing.

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Speaker 2: It would have been disrespectful if I went to her

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Speaker 2: like I need you to suck like this, fuck like this.

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Speaker 2: To me, I felt that was too inappropriately. Watched this,

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Speaker 2: so I was like, yo, here you go, like, do

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Speaker 2: what they do on do what they do? Go in

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Speaker 2: the car and come back. Go in the car, got

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Speaker 2: seven minutes to get back here. Well, flick the bean.

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Speaker 1: Come back.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the scene. Flick the bean, get to

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Speaker 3: I can't turn myself on, might get an oscar. He

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Speaker 3: Why would you want to because if I'm like.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing what I'm saying? Because they don't flirting.

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Speaker 3: I can I'm an adult.

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Speaker 3: Never gonna happen again because we work together.

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Speaker 4: I'm about to say I've dealt with that, like when

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, once you date some once you get to

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Speaker 4: Can go both ways because you can have a crush

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Speaker 4: Or they can say something that will turtle like turn

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Speaker 2: Okay, just put a beep there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she was so hot. It's funny that that's here.

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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, do you have kids or like anything

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Speaker 2: sometimes getting what you wish for is the absolute worst.

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Speaker 2: Like have you even kind of not I don't want

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Speaker 2: In the first thirty days, you're like, we'll push through these,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then, but not only that, When you're working

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Speaker 4: because I've been through that all the homies gold Peak.

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Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. She's cute, but

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Speaker 1: this is like, that's Angela like that. Sometimes it works out.

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Speaker 2: and I think they're together now, Like sometimes that's your soulmate,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they.

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Speaker 2: Probably figured that out on the air. That chemistry showed

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Speaker 2: my family. Yeah, this is where I need to be,

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Speaker 5: You can't let your family keep you from the love

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Speaker 1: That's from the Book of Nigga Damas. I love that book.

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Speaker 1: I read that everything.

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Speaker 2: The amount of children that have grown up fatherless because

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Speaker 2: it is the reason why you shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 4: Mom boy had a really cute girl that was working

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Speaker 4: used to work. He'sa nah fired. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 4: what happened? He's like, Yo, she called out one day

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Speaker 4: to go protest?

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Speaker 5: Isn't that like protected? Like you can't fire somebody for

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Speaker 5: that small I'm not on.

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Speaker 2: The mall side of what the protest is. We don't

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Speaker 2: You can't just not go to work that day. You

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Speaker 2: can't not go to work because you want to go protest?

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Speaker 1: Did protected? This job? Is protect?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: Really a company?

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Speaker 2: If that was the case, I could open up my

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Speaker 1: I'm a protest.

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Speaker 3: But I think that that's I think that's different.

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Speaker 2: And even that like shit in the in mid twenty

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Speaker 2: tens when the protests were going crazy, Yeah, they got

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, at well, employment in most states like New

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Speaker 5: York employers can fire people for any reason, including public protesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I can see how it can

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Speaker 2: But if you just be like, yo, I'm not coming

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Speaker 2: if you fully support this, everyone's going to take the day.

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Speaker 2: We're taking a Wednesday off for all of us to

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Speaker 2: go do that. If you don't want to do it,

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Speaker 2: take the day off. I could see that. But just

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Speaker 1: Nah, I'm going to protest personal.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean you have first of all, you have

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna tell about.

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Speaker 5: Oh I'm sick. Oh, I don't feel good. Oh my

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Speaker 5: grandmother died. I'm not coming in today for personal reasons.

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Speaker 3: Period. They don't have to ask you, they ask you.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: It's it's for personal reasons.

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Speaker 1: Show them when they fire you, can they say we

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Speaker 5: They can't fire you for not coming in for personal reasons.

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Speaker 5: They cannot fire it.

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Speaker 1: If they can have a personal reason for firing you.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's that well employment, you can fire me,

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Speaker 5: but you better make sure that you cross your eyes

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Speaker 2: I mean you kind of cross a Q is just

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Speaker 5: They gotta splash it or something like that. Whatever, because

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Speaker 5: I'm calling them folk.

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Speaker 2: If it's if it's a one time thing, yeah, of course,

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Speaker 2: Like you can't ask somebody if that's not their character.

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Speaker 2: Like they're not calling out or own a blate all

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Speaker 2: the time and they're just like, yo, I have some

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Speaker 3: Cool, But if that happens all the time, you'll yeah,

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Speaker 3: but that's anything if anything happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of parents with some older kids

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Speaker 2: few personal days from school. Well, I think that is

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Speaker 3: Put better help ad here.

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Speaker 2: Life doesn't care about your personal days, Like, are we

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Speaker 2: preparing your kids that in the right way? I think

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Speaker 2: the real world does not care about your personal shit.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, but it's not about that.

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Speaker 2: I don't want my kids to fucking implode and go nuts.

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Speaker 2: I get it, But I'm still on the side of

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Speaker 2: how I was raised, Like, no, you're going to school

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Speaker 2: like you even funk about your personal probless.

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Speaker 5: Not like working for you, like working through your mental

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Speaker 5: How's that working for you? What do you mean you

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Speaker 5: think you're like okay? Or you think you could use

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Speaker 4: I could definitely use some person I mean myself, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's case by case basis of what

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Speaker 2: I can identify and understand that. But if you cool

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Speaker 2: and you just want to day off, that's not how

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Speaker 2: the world works. Okay, you know that's fine with me.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, the world don't work that way. We

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Speaker 2: I have to do this because I said I was

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Speaker 2: So yeah, even though I don't want to come in

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Speaker 5: And all of those are choices that you made yourself

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Speaker 5: go to school or be born. You actually have no

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Speaker 3: So I mean me.

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Speaker 5: Personally, I'm not gonna lie. I feel like it's a

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Speaker 5: Like because I know my kid gonna wake me up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta go school.

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Speaker 5: They gonnaokt me and be like, ma, I really can't

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Speaker 3: We in the house. I can't do it. Togay either're

445
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Speaker 3: like whatever.

446
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Speaker 2: So here's the thing I'm not saying I even stand

447
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,879
Speaker 2: on either side with this, because I do get in.

448
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,639
Speaker 3: Listen.

449
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,479
Speaker 2: If Amar comes in her room in my room crying

450
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Speaker 2: in fourth grade of saying like I just can't do

451
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,200
Speaker 2: it today, you think I'm gonna turn into a drill sergeant. No,

452
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 2: my fucking heart is gonna melt and I'm gonna be like,

453
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 2: just stay here, I'll hug you. But as my freshman

454
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,200
Speaker 2: football coach said every single time, if you quit during

455
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,000
Speaker 2: double sessions, yeah it'll be easy. Nothing wrong will happen

456
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,320
Speaker 2: in your life, but it'll make the next thing easier

457
00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 2: to quit. And then you'll just start a fucking pattern

458
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 2: of quitting when things are a little rough that morning,

459
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Speaker 2: and now you're just this fucking soft person that's gonna

460
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,440
Speaker 2: sit there like, well, the last time I said I

461
00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 2: wasn't going into school, everything was fine, and then that

462
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,959
Speaker 2: just leads to you doing it all the time, and

463
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Speaker 2: now you a fucking dropout.

464
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Speaker 4: And now you're stuck behind seven to eleven for OxyS

465
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 4: exactly because oxies make you feel better.

466
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Speaker 1: You didn't want to go to school.

467
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Speaker 3: So, I mean, I see both sides.

468
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Speaker 2: I guess I'm asking everyone in the room what that

469
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,200
Speaker 2: balance looks like, that's all, but I don't have the answer.

470
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Speaker 4: My nephew has this new thing of where he says

471
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Speaker 4: it's illegal. So like he told my sister it's illegal

472
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Speaker 4: for kids to go outside when it's twenty degrees, like

473
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Speaker 4: that's going to keep them going to school. But he

474
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Speaker 4: don't know what it's illegal for the teachers to take

475
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Speaker 4: them outside for recess.

476
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Speaker 1: So he but he thinks it's illegal to just leave

477
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Speaker 1: the house like this. Nigga tried all not to know

478
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Speaker 1: it's illegal.

479
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Speaker 4: Nigga, you getting on that bus, you will be outside

480
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Speaker 4: for ten seconds, then get on a hot bus. You

481
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Speaker 4: get off the bus. It's school for ten seconds to

482
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Speaker 4: go into hot school building.

483
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Speaker 2: Now I kind of I respect that more than a

484
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Speaker 2: mental health day. At least you're trying to work the

485
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Speaker 2: system that's working you. Yeah, he's like, it's not legal

486
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Speaker 2: for kids. I see what I'm trying to do. It's

487
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Speaker 2: illegal for real to take.

488
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Speaker 4: Kids outside for recess if it's below thirty five degrees.

489
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Speaker 1: I think something like that.

490
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Speaker 4: But he thinking like once he here, it's illegal for kids.

491
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Speaker 4: He thinking like, oh no, I can't even leave my house.

492
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Speaker 4: Just illegal for me to leave the house. Like that's

493
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Speaker 4: the keep you trying to play that card. Now, that's

494
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Speaker 4: so cute. Yeah, he'll be in school tomorrow.

495
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Speaker 1: That see.

496
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Speaker 2: That would almost convince me like you made a good argument.

497
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: You're wrong as fuck. But I appreciate the attention now

498
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 2: that I ain't working on my sister. That ain't happen,

499
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Speaker 2: of course not.

500
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Speaker 3: I feel like there's a balance. I feel like I would.

501
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Speaker 5: I would from the beginning of school year you get

502
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Speaker 5: you get two mental health days a school year to

503
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Speaker 5: a school year, I feel like that's but what.

504
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Speaker 2: We're doing during those mental health days? You playing Xbox

505
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: if that's what you need to do.

506
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Speaker 1: You've had mental health days from school?

507
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Speaker 5: Uh, well, back I couldn't do that. My mother was like,

508
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Speaker 5: go to school. I just would skip, like you see

509
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,719
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, So like, that's not something new that

510
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Speaker 5: that kids are just not doing.

511
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Speaker 1: Why didn't you want to go to school?

512
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 2: Though?

513
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Speaker 5: There were times where, especially middle school, it's just so

514
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Speaker 5: especially as a girl, there's so much drama and just

515
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 5: weird shit that's going on, and people that are supposed

516
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 5: to be your friends are talking behind your back, and

517
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Speaker 5: then somebody's messing with a boy they're not supposed to

518
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Speaker 5: be with, And when you're young, you just feel you.

519
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: Don't want to go to school because people have told Maha,

520
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: you're back, just it could be anything.

521
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: When you're a kid, shit just feels heavier, like and

522
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: I know that sucks, But that doesn't change in the office.

523
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Speaker 3: That doesn't change in adult worlds. No, it doesn't. It

524
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: does not change. And it sucks to say that.

525
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Speaker 2: You kind of have to get not used to it

526
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,959
Speaker 2: or think it's okay, but get exposed to it so

527
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 2: it doesn't affect you in a way that's gonna cripple

528
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Speaker 2: you as an adult.

529
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Speaker 3: But shit like that goes on for a week, two weeks.

530
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Speaker 5: If you take me one one day out of that

531
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Speaker 5: two weeks, it's not like you're avoiding the problem.

532
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: It's just like, yo, today, I can't deal with this shit.

533
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 2: I hip check kids at the playground that even touching

534
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 2: marrow Like, I'm with you. If I find out that

535
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 2: there's been a week that she's been bullied by the

536
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: same group of girls, is yeah, it's gonna be time.

537
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Speaker 3: What's their last names?

538
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, with my address dot com, we find on their

539
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 2: parents and we're going from there.

540
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Speaker 5: Bully and I would never let my kid run from now.

541
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Speaker 5: You're not running from bullying. But when sometimes shit you're

542
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 5: just overwhelmed, Like you got a lot of fucking homework,

543
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 5: you got all these fucking classes. Shit not go right

544
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 5: with your friends, You got sports, you got that. Sometimes kids,

545
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 5: I get overwhelmed as an adult from dealing with a

546
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 5: whole bunch of shit. So when you're a kid and

547
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 5: you got all that going on, it's not weird for

548
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 5: you to get overwhelmed. So I used to skip, Like

549
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 5: I would skip a class or skip two classes and

550
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Speaker 5: go put my fucking headphones on, put on all the

551
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 5: Drake Raars from YouTube, and sit underneath the steps with

552
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Speaker 5: my headphones in.

553
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Speaker 1: And he was one of those first time classes. He

554
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: was one of the weird girls. I wasn't if I

555
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: saw you sitting under bleach, I was like it was

556
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: weird or right what she doing?

557
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 5: Not the bleeding, but like in the basement where the

558
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 5: gym is, like where nobody really goes, you know, the

559
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 5: art class basement shit like that.

560
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just be have my hoodie on with my headphones.

561
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: Is just being my own little girl.

562
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Speaker 2: But I mean, of course there's stuff wrong with that.

563
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: But I don't think what I'm saying is.

564
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Speaker 3: What you're saying.

565
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: It I skipped school all the time, and it wasn't

566
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Speaker 2: to do progressive things. But I mean it's still with

567
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: things that taught me about life. Like I wasn't literally

568
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: just being like, yo, I'm so anxious just so I

569
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Speaker 2: could trick my mom so I could play PS two

570
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: for the rest of the day. Like that's where I'm

571
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Speaker 2: saying the meta to hell shit could just be used

572
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: and which is a perfect segue to yay, which we'll

573
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Speaker 2: get to.

574
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Speaker 3: But I mean that's what I'm more on the side of, Well, you're.

575
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: Not about just because you don't feel like going to

576
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: school that day doesn't mean that you're not going to.

577
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 3: School that day.

578
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I think that that makes sense. But your

579
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: kids know how to manipulate you. You know how to

580
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 5: manipulate your parents. I knew how to manipulate mine.

581
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: On work system.

582
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, like your kids know how to manipulate you. So

583
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 5: you could say, my kid won't be able to get

584
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 5: this or get this one off, but your kid will

585
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 5: be able to get one off, and as a parent,

586
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 5: you just got to learn to.

587
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Speaker 1: Deal with that.

588
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's it's not even your kid

589
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Speaker 4: getting it off. I think you know when your kid

590
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 4: is trying to be slick, and sometimes as a parent,

591
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: you just feel like, you know what, you can stay home,

592
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: but you know what they pulling. You know they're not sick.

593
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: You're like, yo, you just had those days where kids

594
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Speaker 4: just don't want to get it. You've had those days

595
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Speaker 4: you don't want to get up, get dressed, go to school,

596
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: like just was tired or whatever, but you weren't sick

597
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 4: like I used to to pay I don't feel good,

598
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 4: I feel great. I just didn't feel like getting on

599
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Speaker 4: the train, going all the way to hall them and

600
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 4: going to school. I didn't feel like doing that. But

601
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Speaker 4: I wasn't sick. I wasn't at home coughing and it had

602
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: a fever, none of that. I just I'm like, damn,

603
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: I gotta get I gotta go to school.

604
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: Especially days like this, going to school, school outside, it's

605
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 5: nasty outside.

606
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is for what? But then I noticed.

607
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: That there be times where you feel like that you

608
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 4: go to school before you know the school day is over.

609
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: School really isn't that bad? School is?

610
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Speaker 5: I used to enjoy school when I was a kidd

611
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Speaker 5: So school is fun. Some days it ain't, but school

612
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: is usually fun, especially.

613
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Speaker 4: School not fun like what was it about that day

614
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: where it was like school didn't feel fun today? It

615
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 4: was probably something petty like you ain't money, your homegirls

616
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: was beefing about something.

617
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Speaker 1: I wasn't speaking. But when you're in a.

618
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Speaker 4: You liked like you saw him holding another girl's hand

619
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Speaker 4: in all way like the other period, like now.

620
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, this week sucks. It's like, no,

621
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Speaker 1: it doesn't. This week is fine.

622
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Speaker 4: Like you just are upset about something, and as a kid,

623
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Speaker 4: you don't know how to handle your emotions and things

624
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 4: like that, so you run from it. I don't want

625
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 4: to go today. I'm not going to school. Why I

626
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 4: don't feel good? That's not that's not why that boy

627
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: didn't call you back, or he's he's flirting with another girl,

628
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: or you don't want to deal with that. And I

629
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Speaker 4: think as parents you know that because you dealt with

630
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: it right, and then when it's your turn you have kids,

631
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Speaker 4: you know like okay, and that's where you have the

632
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 4: conversation with your kids, like, yo, so.

633
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Speaker 1: What's going on, what's going on in school? What happened?

634
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: Because you know it ain't that they sick. It's not

635
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: your kid is not sick. Kid is fine.

636
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 4: They just don't feel like dealing with the social aspect

637
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Speaker 4: of being in the school today.

638
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

639
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: Now.

640
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Speaker 4: Before you get to that, I got to tell you something.

641
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: We're back responsor abut boostmow Wi unlimited talk, texts and data.

642
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Speaker 3: Perfect segue. I don't know what it's like to be

643
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Speaker 3: in school.

644
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: Now with the phone, I can assume a lot more

645
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: weird bullying, weird drama, shit.

646
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

647
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Speaker 2: I wish I had a smart phone in high school,

648
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: so I don't know smart Maybe I would need a

649
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 2: mental health day if I had a smartphone in junior

650
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: high and high school, Like, yeah, maybe I would have

651
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: needed one. Because this is not I can't even escare

652
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: all the way to midnight. I'm able to talk with

653
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: everybody that I go to high school with.

654
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 5: So they want to take the phrase they want to

655
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Speaker 5: take the phones out of I mean, but I could

656
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 5: we were talking.

657
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, but come on, when I was

658
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: different between then and now.

659
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: Facebook and Twitter we're big. When I was in high school, we.

660
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Had my Space and Facebook, but like it wasn't like

661
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: we didn't live and breathe it.

662
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: Now we lived and breathe Facebook.

663
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Speaker 4: When I was envy, I envy kids being in high

664
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Speaker 4: school now to have like Instagram and ship.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I wish I had that.

666
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Speaker 2: No.

667
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Speaker 4: I imagine if I had a smartphone in between classes,

668
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Speaker 4: I get the interview kids in the school by how

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Speaker 4: they feeling, Like I would pod in between classes like

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Speaker 4: real quick three minutes, like yo, so how you felt

671
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Speaker 4: about that last class?

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Speaker 1: You jacking the teacher?

673
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Speaker 2: Jacking the teacher? I would be little. I don't know what.

674
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 2: Like social media. If I had it, I'm out there

675
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Speaker 2: even doing like teacher recaps for the underclassmen, like you

676
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Speaker 2: could go back a year to CEO, I took the

677
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Speaker 2: same class.

678
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Speaker 3: Look at all my reviews. Yeah, give me your teacher reviews.

679
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Speaker 1: For the day.

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Speaker 3: Well they have that.

681
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Speaker 5: Well it's mainly in college rate my professor dot com

682
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 5: because I used to use that. But these you have

683
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 5: to understand these kids from what I see my friends kids,

684
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: my ex'es daughter, like, they have so much pressure on

685
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 5: them because, for example, the girls.

686
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: Have it's just too much access.

687
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 5: So now these eighteen year old girls, seventeen year old

688
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 5: girls don't look eighteen, don't look seventeen.

689
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: They got bussed on weaves.

690
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 5: They out here wearing the same shit that we wearing

691
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 5: we got the same fashion over a fucking outfit on

692
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 5: and then the little boys that are competing with them

693
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: are competing with these niggas that are playing fucking college hoops.

694
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 5: Because everybody has access to everybody, everybody feels like they

695
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 5: should look the way everybody else looks. On Instagram, there's

696
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: no blurred lines of this person is an adult and

697
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 5: this person is a teenager. It's very weird for them.

698
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: The kids are coming home asking poor kids, not regular

699
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 5: kids like not like well off kids, like poor kids.

700
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 5: We from the hood niggas, These little niggas asking for

701
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: Mary's for their birthday, for they fifteenth birthday for high school?

702
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: What why you want thousand dollar jeans? Y're all competing,

703
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: Like why are y'all?

704
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: It's weird.

705
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: It's very very.

706
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: They don't notice, like two pairs black jeans, blue jeans,

707
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: that's what you got that first that it lasts.

708
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 5: For the whole year of school, the old the old schools,

709
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 5: beef and BROCCOLI's. What was the first day of school

710
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: shoes old schools, beef and broccoli.

711
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: Even brocks on the first day.

712
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 5: Per Jordan's it was old schools, old school white on whites. Uh,

713
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: the air Force ones school we call them old schools.

714
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: In Upstates, there was.

715
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Speaker 2: Always that was always old schools.

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Old schools. That's crazy. I've never heard that before, white

717
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: on whites or old schools.

718
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 5: I didn't even notice that that was Upstate slang until

719
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 5: y'all just didn't know what I was talking about old schools.

720
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: I've never heard air forces we called old schools.

721
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: And how cold did you said on the first day

722
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: of school? You were in beefing brons We used to.

723
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 5: They used to wear that ship like it was cool,

724
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 5: like it was I love beefing like you didn't. There

725
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 5: was no snow on the ground.

726
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: Niggas just put the their version of trying to steal

727
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: beefing brox is these so but the.

728
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: First got mont Clear sneaker slash boots. I like these boots.

729
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Good boot.

730
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's elements outside, run.

731
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: From police, jump over snow banks. Yeah.

732
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: Before we get to Kanye taking his mental health day

733
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: from school, how did you guys handle handle the snowstorm?

734
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: Because the marus was talking like we was locked up

735
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: for a week. I had to remind her that the

736
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: snow day was twelve hours.

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Speaker 1: I know, but I ain't left the crib since Thursday

738
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Speaker 1: when we recorded.

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Speaker 2: I think because of your health scare, you were already

740
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: like locked up and then you had a day of

741
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: freedom and then parole came locking.

742
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to go right back.

743
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 5: And like I said, like I was telling Rory, I'm like, yo,

745
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: I love being single, Like being single is for me.

746
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 5: But when all your homegirls is like they locked in

747
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: with a nigga, you just in the house.

748
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: I was in the house rocking like this.

749
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: You only watched so much Law and Order, like you

750
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 5: only deal with so much rape.

751
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: So I'm just sitting in there, like, but that's.

752
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: Why you got to get off a Law and Order

753
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: and watch something else. You can't be watching a Law

754
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: and Order and you locked in the house.

755
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: That's torture, that's a snow that's a snow day special

756
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: though order and a mental health is sick day.

757
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: You just watched Long Order.

758
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: But like three to four days I was in there, man,

759
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: I was just cooking random shit like shit don't even

760
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: go together. Why am I boiler apples? Like I'm just

761
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 5: doing shit, you know what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yo, I did the same fucking thing. I made wings

763
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: in the crockpot. Early so they could cook for like

764
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: six hours for the second game. And then I was

765
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: just I bought all this food for no fucking reason.

766
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: I started making bowling. A's and my daddy's like, wait,

767
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: we got chicken wings over here.

768
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: You about to make bowling it.

769
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm making everything, just putting shit together today, probably.

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00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Up grocery shopping was dumb.

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00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: I was like, I bought all I bought these groceries

772
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: and I cooked breakfast.

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00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: That was it.

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00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: Everything else I was just like, you, dam I have

775
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: nothing to eat, and I was just looking at shit

776
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: in the fridge like bro.

777
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: I did an insta car order. My original instacr order

778
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 5: was one hundred and twenty dollars. My final receipt was

779
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 5: only forty five dollars because nothing was available to the niggas.

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00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 5: Ain't have avocados, green beans, green peppers, sliced cheese, sliced turkey.

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00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: I said, you niggas with what day was? Day was this?

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00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: This was Saturday morning?

783
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: Oh nah, you're a rookie. I know was supposed to Friday, Thursday.

784
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: Friday's supposed to get that Saturday morning. That's the apocalypse

785
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: is twelve hours you supposed to get that days before.

786
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: You wait till twelve twelve hours left before the apocalypse.

787
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Nah, it ain't gonna be nothing on the shelves.

788
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: My homegirls mitching Major shout to Mitchell Major that I

789
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: told them Thursday. I'm like, Yo, listen, y'all better get

790
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: some groceries because it's gonna be you know, I mean,

791
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: Sunday is gonna be rough.

792
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: Ye, I ain't gonna be like. It ain't gonna be nothing.

793
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: They always say that.

794
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, guess who facetied me together Sunday afternoon?

795
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: Agree to Why they ain't got no groceries. I'm looking

796
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: at the phone. I told y'all Thursday, go get groceries.

797
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: Everybody thought this storm Piege was another one, like, nah,

798
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: this storm is weak.

799
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 5: It is weak, but everybody else perception is everything. Everybody

800
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 5: else acted like it was the worst shit in the world.

801
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: So now groceries ain't available because everybody took it like

802
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 5: everybody went great.

803
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: No, the storm wasn't weak though. That was a legit

804
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: snowstorm we.

805
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 5: Got, Yeah, but it wasn't that bad. What I'm from upstate,

806
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: that was nothing. If I get like today, I was

807
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: able to walk outside it's not that bad.

808
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: Well that's because they do a great job of, you know,

809
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: shoveling the sidewalks and things like that. But it's a

810
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: lot of snow outside for this era. Yeah, that's a

811
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: lot of snow for the last four or five years. Yes,

812
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: this was a lot.

813
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: But back to kids that take mental health days, it

814
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: was fine though, Like it really wasn't that that crazy. Yeah,

815
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: this used to be a very regular thing.

816
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: But I was happy that.

817
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: Major in them because I mean, they'll deliver I don't

818
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: know what they deliver, food to meat or hurricane.

819
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 4: Well Major Major had food from Saturday that she ordered

820
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: and didn't eat, so she ate that Sunday, so she

821
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: had to live like a fugitive for twenty four hours.

822
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: But I'm sure she's fine.

823
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Do you, I mean, I know not.

824
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: Now, how do you decide who your companion is going

825
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: to be for the snow day when you're.

826
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: Single, you don't do what you've always done.

827
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: She comes through that night and when you wake up,

828
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: she snowed in.

829
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: Nah, you're setting up for the no no no. If

830
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: a girl came to see you Saturday, she knew she

831
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: was staying with you all day Sunday.

832
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: Fair no woman knew she was not leaving your house.

833
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 2: But if you're like somebody like Pea's like, now, it's

834
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: gonna be fine.

835
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: I'll just leave in the morning.

836
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: Because there's been times with inclement weather that I went

837
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: to somebody's house like I leave in the morning, and

838
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: then there was no way I was leaving the rookies.

839
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: I would never learning experience.

840
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: I would never go to a woman's house planning to

841
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: leave the next day when it's supposed to be a snowstorm.

842
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: If I go to Onoe's house and the day before snowstorm,

843
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: I plan on staying there through the snowstorm, there's no

844
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: I'm stuck here.

845
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, not stuck nowhere. Isn't grown man, it's not happening,

846
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: all right. So see you did it, Dolo Dolo watched

847
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: the games chilled in the crib. That was it, man.

848
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: I had food. I had some hot cocoa.

849
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: I was good. That it's cute.

850
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it, all right? You vegan so it

851
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: was with water. That's nasty. You got me twisted. You

852
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: think I drink hot chocolate with water? Yeah?

853
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: What else would you do with oat milk? Same thing

854
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: you put in your coffee? Yeah, that's it is vegan. Yeah,

855
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: always got jeve water. Really carrots carrots is funny? Fuck

856
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: up carrots all charity? You hate carrots all day Sunday.

857
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: I didn't think I didn't think you were Rudolph.

858
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: I just you know, no, yeah, be backing like yeah

859
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: oat milky never had that's.

860
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Speaker 3: Actually the only I've had it.

861
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: I've had it. Well yeah, fire, okay.

862
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: Yet, Maul, I see that Demerius is over there on

863
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: a phone that is not the all new iPhone Pro

864
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Speaker 2: seventeen designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever.

865
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Speaker 1: Is that Is that a flip phone? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are you concerned about traffic or someone trying to transfer

867
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Speaker 2: all your data?

868
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: You got no snowstorm updates on that phone?

869
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040
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Speaker 2: you're scrolling through it was that iPhone twelve.

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Speaker 1: Are bl.

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00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: Well. Yes, back to our mental health day. Kanye finally

880
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: took one and did a nice dissertation an op ed

881
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal. I believe this was took out. It

882
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: took out a whole ad, because I don't even think

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00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: it's an article.

884
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 3: I just think he took out a long ass ad

885
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: in the Wall Street Journal, starting out.

886
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: With to those I've hurt, and I mean, I'll save

887
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: everyone for the time for the most party, suggesting that

888
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: after his accident that we all know started through the wire,

889
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: he said that that damaged his frontal lobe, which could have,

890
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: you know, led him to further further diagnosis of bipolar disorder.

891
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: Doctors were telling me he had, you know, small signs

892
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: of autism to begin, but he was suggesting that this

893
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: went undiagnosed and untreated, and it led him to hurt

894
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: a lot of people. It led him to loving the swastika.

895
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: It's who owns lexus? Because I know Kanye hit his

896
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: face on the steering wheel of his Lexus when he

897
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: got in a car accident. I'm just curious how that

898
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: landed on a swastika.

899
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, well, because he probably hit the lexus logo,

900
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: and then and then it kind of good.

901
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like how you reversed the chat

902
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: GBT logo and it turns in never mind. So yeah,

903
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: he was apologizing for a lot of his behavior over

904
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: the years. He's he understands that he's hurt a lot

905
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: of people. He went into a long, long description of

906
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: what bipolar is and how it's diagnosed, and how the

907
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: doctors that he had suggested that that wasn't the case.

908
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: And now his wife, after he hit rock bottom, suggested

909
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: that he get some more help. And I think now

910
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: he is fully accepted that he does have bipolar type

911
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: one and he wanted to apologize to everyone the week

912
00:36:54,280 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: before Bully comes out. So yeah, I don't forgive him no, no,

913
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: I see, I want to see what you're gonna say,

914
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: because everyone cares about mental health.

915
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: It's time to care about mental health.

916
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Who's up?

917
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: I like this because I.

918
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: Think every white actor that has lost his fucking mind

919
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: off drugs, done some wild shit on Hollywood Boulevard always

920
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: has their moment when they sit down with fucking Diane

921
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Sawyer and like, yo, I was going crazy, I had

922
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: mental health, and we.

923
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: All wrap our arms around them and love them.

924
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: No, we don't.

925
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: White actors are allowed to have fucking mental breakdowns and

926
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: then get right back to the place they were supposed

927
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: to be. No. I have been on this pod saying

928
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: millions of things I disagree with Kanye West about not true,

929
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: But now I'm saying, why can't he get the same

930
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: luxury as as as fucking other people?

931
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 4: That's not true because if that's the case, nobody forgave

932
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: mel Gibson for his rant.

933
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: He was just on Joe Rogan where everyone's like, yo,

934
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: it's go.

935
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: I don't mean that, don't mean that, don't mean that.

936
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: Don't mean people forgave him and wrap their arms around him.

937
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: Nobody forgave whole Colgan he's still a racist.

938
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: Well he's dead.

939
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: He probably has more reason to have CTE and concussions

940
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: than anybody.

941
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: He's been getting body slams for seven or if you.

942
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: Don't think people forgave Hulk Hogan, Hulk Hogan never had

943
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: a never once did it bro when he died.

944
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: When he died and people was posting about him on

945
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: social media, they were people clowning people for that, like, oh,

946
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: y'all are really okay?

947
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: Social media is not a real place to what you're saying.

948
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what people saying. Where did he ever

949
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: take a loss in fame, money, jobs?

950
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: Never?

951
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: His career only went up.

952
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Never.

953
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 2: The more videos we got him cucking someone else's wife

954
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: and using the N word.

955
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: Don't I think he got another w W deal. No,

956
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

957
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't think after that, Like, well, he was probably

958
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: already done wrestling.

959
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: He was definitely done.

960
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean like he kept working. He was

961
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: still the face of what wrestling was. He did commentating,

962
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: like Hulk Hogan never went away. He had reality shows,

963
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: he had.

964
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: He didn't do no commentating talking about Yeah, like what

965
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

966
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: Because he's a heel. You guys don't understand the game,

967
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: Like you don't understand the fact that people did not

968
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: forgive him. You really think h Cogan was canceled people?

969
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, people were mad that people were saying rest

970
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: in peace to hole Kogan.

971
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: Okay, but okay, so here's a godcast thing I'm saying.

972
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 5: Here's this thing. Negativity tends to be commented, right. People

973
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 5: don't comment good things. The only common bad things. So

974
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: if you go in a comment section and it's full

975
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 5: of bad things. It doesn't mean that people only think

976
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: bad things. It just means that people who have negative opinions,

977
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: I'm more likely to comment. That doesn't mean that nobody

978
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 5: forgave him. That's not true. There's plenty of people, I'm sure.

979
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 5: I'm sure some of his hardcore fans, the majority of him.

980
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 5: I'm saying that, look at the audience. They don't care

981
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 5: about him being racist. He was never forgiven for that though,

982
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 5: And I'm about our community. He was never forgiven for that.

983
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a that's in our community.

984
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: But he probably had He probably had a lot of

985
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: black front to lob a juries.

986
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: He probably had concussions.

987
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he could have used the same excuse

988
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 4: of I hit my head and my frontal low was there.

989
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: He could have.

990
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 5: But everybody has always known that. Kanye's family has been

991
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 5: coming out and saying that he was bipolar for years

992
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 5: and that he needs to take meds.

993
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: He was the one fighting against it.

994
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: But people have come out forever and said Kanye is bipolar,

995
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 5: he needs to take mets.

996
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: That's not like that. This isn't a new like thing.

997
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 2: No, his mania, even twenty fifteen, he was doing stuff

998
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: with stone Cold Steve Austen as WW tough is enough

999
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: that he was a commentator on like He's he kept going,

1000
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: he was a judge.

1001
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: He was a judge on the sixth season of this.

1002
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't get canceled when the when by this

1003
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: by yourself fan base. So Hogan can't be canceled by

1004
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 5: black people, like that's not his main fan base. Kank

1005
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 5: just the same thing, Like Kanye can't be completely canceled

1006
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: by white people like they white people. If all white

1007
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 5: people start hitting Kanye, it doesn't mean that Kanye is canceled.

1008
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 5: Kanye came from the black community. We brought him up

1009
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: and pitched him, so it's up to suggested to cancel him.

1010
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: And we did not do that.

1011
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: We tried, we fake tried, but we never collectively came

1012
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 5: and canceled Kanye, like Kanye was not really canceled.

1013
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: Oh you can be canceled. You wake up and see

1014
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: that being't in your account no more, that's canceled. That's

1015
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 4: the only cancel. I can't okay what you think is

1016
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 4: the social media.

1017
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm curious because you that is good or I've been canceled.

1018
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: You've said for years on podcasts in which I've agreed

1019
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: and been staying corrected a lot of times with you,

1020
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: Like when we went to the Daniel Caesar show at

1021
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: in an Arena, You've said nobody has ever been canceled,

1022
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: Like you can't really get canceled.

1023
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: Hogan was not canceled.

1024
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 4: I will say, I say, your fans don't cancel you, Okay,

1025
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: people that supported you. Whenever you see somebody being canceled

1026
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: or people calling for somebody to be canceled, nine times

1027
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: out of ten, it's somebody that never even supported them.

1028
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: It's never your fans. Because if you say something right now, Rory,

1029
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: your fans not on Netflix, well not on Netflix, but

1030
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 4: your fans probably know the context. They probably know you

1031
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1032
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't supported me. They know you. They follow you. Now,

1033
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: somebody that don't know you know, followed.

1034
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: They just hear something here a clip They were, oh

1035
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: what is he?

1036
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh he's canceled.

1037
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: They don't know you, they don't know the tone, they

1038
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: don't know the context, they don't know they don't get

1039
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: your humor. So when you see people trying to be canceled,

1040
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: calling if for somebody to be canceled, find somewhere would

1041
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: they ever even supported who they were trying to cancel.

1042
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's why I said I stand corrected when

1043
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: you've said that before. So that's why I'm going with

1044
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: the same logic that you have here. I don't think

1045
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: hul Cogan was ever really canceled. I think when he died, yes,

1046
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: there was people on Twitter that were mad, especially at

1047
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: black people, that were saying the rest in peace to him,

1048
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: But I don't think that equates.

1049
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: To him being canceled per se.

1050
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: And Kanye, for the most part, if you were to

1051
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: have a definition of it, yes, it would be him

1052
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: going on Drink Champs and saying I could say anti

1053
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Semitic things and Adidas would never drop me, and then

1054
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: Adidas dropped him the fucking two days later.

1055
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a vert.

1056
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: But not all of us have access to things that

1057
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: can really be canceled more or less. Like I don't

1058
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: have a billion dollars and if a company has the

1059
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 2: ability to take that away from me, yeah, you kind

1060
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: of just fucking canceled me. But Kanye, in his own right,

1061
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: despite even the insane things he's done, is an extremely

1062
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: creative and smart guy. Even if you take a billion

1063
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: dollars from him, He's going to find a way to

1064
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: make fun money. He's not a fluke as far as creativity.

1065
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: No, No, he's talent. His talent is legit. So why this?

1066
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Why this? Now?

1067
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: Do we think this is something that he actually feels?

1068
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to say.

1069
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: The one thing that I don't like about this the

1070
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: whole ad or page in a Wall Street. All of

1071
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: this is performative to me if Kanye, because I don't

1072
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 4: we I think we all in this room, Kanye did

1073
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 4: not write none of this. We know that he approved it.

1074
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: He read it and said, okay, put it out. Those

1075
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: are not his words.

1076
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: Now he's admitted to ghost writers before. Now I think rhyme,

1077
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: fester consequence. Really, I think that that wasn't a shot.

1078
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: If he felt like this, right, if he felt like this,

1079
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: If this is indeed, why won't he just say it?

1080
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: He can go live on his social media, he can

1081
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 4: put out a post a video and just saying like, yo, listen,

1082
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 4: I got help, you know whatever whatever this and then

1083
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: the Belly the Bully album coming up.

1084
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: It's just performative. This is just promo. This feels like promo.

1085
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: It feels performative.

1086
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: It feels like, you know, because we know Kanye and

1087
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: we know that when he does this, it'sues because he's

1088
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: getting ready to sell us something. So now it's like

1089
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 4: the boy cry wolf. I don't look at this, and

1090
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn yay. Like Damara said, we been kind

1091
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: of saying these things about Kanye. Hear is like, yo,

1092
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: is he all right? He seems to be you know,

1093
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: his emotions all over the place, like is he okay?

1094
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 4: Like he need to get help things. So, yes, we've

1095
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: been saying these things because we're watching it and from

1096
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 4: our lens, it looked like this was somebody that we

1097
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: once knew and then now this is a whole different person.

1098
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: Something seems a bit off about this person. Cool, now,

1099
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: if this is in fact true and all that. First

1100
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 4: of all, we hope that he's getting the help that

1101
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: he needs. We hope that, you know, he physically, that

1102
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 4: he's getting better than taking care of himself. I don't

1103
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: think that he should be in a state like this

1104
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: and you know, jumping right back into putting out music,

1105
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: because then now you have to you know, you have

1106
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: to travel, you have to perform, you have to do this,

1107
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: you have to do that, And it's like okay, but

1108
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 4: now you're putting mental phys health to the back burner

1109
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 4: of the rigorous grind of I have something to sell,

1110
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: I have music out, I have to perform. I have

1111
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: to be away from family, friends, you know, doctors or whatever.

1112
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: Like take if this is really what it is, take

1113
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: the time to address this, get better, because now cool,

1114
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: all these words have said.

1115
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: We read this beautiful Wall Street.

1116
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: Ad and all of this. What happens if a month

1117
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: from now we get another rent and after the Bully

1118
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: album is out and you know, we all hear it

1119
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: and love.

1120
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: It or hate it. What happens when we get the

1121
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: next rant?

1122
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1123
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Like, then what is it like? You know what I mean?

1124
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm just like, I get it.

1125
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: But to me, Wall Street Ad and all it it

1126
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: just feels a little, a little stage, a little performative.

1127
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: So I know.

1128
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: He did an interview with Justin Leboy again, which by

1129
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: the time we're recording this, I don't think it's out,

1130
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: but the idea and see a clip yesterday that he

1131
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: was talking about Bully being very positive. He felt like

1132
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 2: it's his miseducation as far as every bar mattering, there's

1133
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: nothing wasted there.

1134
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: It is all about positivity.

1135
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: He said, it's more like his Narls Barkley type of

1136
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: album more than it would be eight A Weights because

1137
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: Ata Waits even had Heartbreak in it, it was not

1138
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: negative per se, but there's I mean, even if you

1139
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: get into the depths of atow Eights and where that

1140
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: even goes with the devil, it's dark tones. He's saying

1141
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: this is very much as positive and happy moment, and

1142
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: then the next day he puts this out, I'm with

1143
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: you more of its performative because he's trying to sell

1144
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: us something. But what's wrong if artists do that? Like

1145
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: even when Frank Ocean, Even when Frank Ocean came out

1146
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: and said, Yo, you.

1147
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: Using mental health, I'm as an excuse for your actions.

1148
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: I don't think mental health gives you an excuse to

1149
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: be an asshole, but it is a conversation to be had.

1150
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: And I think Yay has had been an habitual line

1151
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: crosser with all of that. And I'm not here to

1152
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: defend Kanye in anything that he has said, even with

1153
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: the excuse of mental health, because he clearly did ignore

1154
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: it even when the people around.

1155
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: Him were trying to tell him.

1156
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: But if you get into bipolar this, and that doesn't

1157
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: change anything, but some acknowledgment here. This is the most

1158
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: humble we've ever seen Kanye. But I'm with you. I

1159
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: don't think he wrote a word.

1160
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the most humble. This is the most humble. He

1161
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: didn't write that. What are you talking about?

1162
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 5: Some people can feel a way and not know how

1163
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 5: to articulate their thoughts, right. Some people just suck at

1164
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 5: articulating their thoughts. We've seen from people in this room,

1165
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 5: and sometimes when you're trying to explain yourself and you're

1166
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 5: not good at it, you make sure.

1167
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: Kanye is very good at articulating his thoughts may probably

1168
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: one of the best people ever.

1169
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: Can be good articulating your thoughts in a rap about

1170
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 5: a subject.

1171
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it wasn't no beat on when he articulated

1172
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: somebody's thoughts.

1173
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is when you're talking about something that's

1174
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 5: sensitive to you, that you're still dealing with inside yourself.

1175
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 5: And I'm not making excuses for Kanye, just generalized. It

1176
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 5: can be. We come on this podcast and talk about

1177
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 5: shit every day. Shit just fly out our mouth. We're witty,

1178
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 5: we're funny, we're quick when we're talking about something that

1179
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 5: has affected our lives. We ruined our lives. I've ruined

1180
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 5: my family. Yeah, my words don't come out as smoothly,

1181
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 5: so I might need some help. I don't think that

1182
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 5: there's anything wrong with that. I'd rather him do that

1183
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: than to go sit in front of a computer and

1184
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: let his thoughts and his mouth run away with him,

1185
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 5: and then he says something in the wrong way and

1186
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 5: it's articulated wrong. People take it the wrong way, so

1187
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 5: they write it up how they want it to be heard. No,

1188
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 5: he went and got a professional. This is how I feel.

1189
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 5: Can you make this sound good? I don't think that

1190
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: there's anything wrong with that. I don't think I don't

1191
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 5: think it makes it any less sincere.

1192
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: Pr, Yeah, that's publicist, that's what they do.

1193
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: And even with this, Justin the boyd that it's gonna

1194
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: come out probably on his channel or whatever. The last

1195
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: few ones did they have the edit button, Like he

1196
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: can go on a rant and then they can, you know,

1197
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: Justin the Boy and be like oh damn, like they'll

1198
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: they'll find a way to cure it.

1199
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: So I don't think that's bad.

1200
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: But I'm asking if you think this is from a

1201
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: genuine place, or is this now, because Kanye becomes the

1202
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: theme of every album if you've noticed, and I'm not

1203
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: trying to do the Kanye nerd thing, but yeesus. He

1204
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: became that fucking brash, insane person for that project. Might

1205
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: be with Dark Swiss to Fantasy, he became the cool,

1206
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: suave we only wearing suits.

1207
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: He becomes what the album is. He's a manic fucking artist.

1208
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: Because Bully is supposed to be so positive and now

1209
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: he's sitting with Justin le Boyce saying it's his miseducation.

1210
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: Is this just a rollout or is this really where

1211
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: his brain is at?

1212
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: It's a rollout.

1213
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 5: I've never seen Kanye apologize for a fuck thing he's

1214
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 5: ever said. What Kanye be out here apologizing for shit

1215
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 5: that he say.

1216
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's apologized before.

1217
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's up. We've all apologized before, but Kanye

1218
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 5: has never the latest. Kanye has never taken full accountability

1219
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 5: for his mental health and the horrible ship that he

1220
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: said in the way that it's affected.

1221
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: Now, I will say, you're right there.

1222
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: He's never directly, you know, attached it to mental health

1223
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: and the car accident and frontal load damage and all

1224
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: of that.

1225
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: I think no, I think the frontal load damnite ship.

1226
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 5: I think that's a cop out. Me person, I think

1227
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: that that's a cop I.

1228
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to know why?

1229
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: I think it's old the cop out because if we

1230
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: roll the tay back when he did the whole gotcha,

1231
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 4: it seemed like you knew exactly what the fuck he

1232
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: was doing and saying, then when you this with the

1233
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: gotcha moment, when you lost all that money, it was like,

1234
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: oh God, I told you they controlled everything.

1235
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: Look they took all my money. It was like he knew.

1236
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: He was very aware and cognizant of what he was

1237
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: doing and saying I'm doing this on purpose to show y'all, Yes,

1238
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: they run everything. Watch when I start saying this, watch

1239
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: they take everything from me, gotcha.

1240
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: And right to Maul's point, I did want to say,

1241
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: that's very calculated, that's too low. Clears the motherfucker itough.

1242
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: This is this another version of because I think again,

1243
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: not trying to be the yays of genius, him not

1244
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: saying that he wanted to see what it was like

1245
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: to be fucking canceled. He knew what he was doing

1246
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: and everything that he was saying with everybody, Cameron said,

1247
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: on his podcast. I was just with Kanye, He's not

1248
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: crazy what he's putting on.

1249
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1250
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: Kanye is crazy at all. I think Kanye got to

1251
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: a level where he thought and forgot his place. You're

1252
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: still a black man. You don't control this. Yeah, you're

1253
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 4: very talented, talented, creative. You can create anything and sell it. Yes,

1254
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: but don't get it twisted. You're still a black man

1255
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 4: in America. Bro, there's still a pecking overer here. So

1256
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 4: you have to still walk a certain way, talk a

1257
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 4: certain way. You can't just be out here doing and

1258
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: saying whatever you want because you sold a bunch of

1259
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 4: sneakers for Adidas.

1260
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: I agree with that. You can't do that.

1261
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 4: Michael Droon sold a ship ton of sneakers from Miike.

1262
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: Mike Ain never said what Kanye's.

1263
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 3: Republicans naka.

1264
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: Quickly Republicans.

1265
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: I think Kanye was actually pretty lucid, even with a

1266
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: bipolar brain, lucid in what he was doing with everything

1267
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: he said after drink Champs, with the anti Semitic stuff.

1268
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 2: Is this still part of that experiment to see what

1269
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: it is like to get out of being canceled. Is

1270
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: this is he literally doing because he brings up the

1271
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 2: Truman Show all the time.

1272
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: See all he does is that's that's what happens when

1273
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 4: you every polar brain, though.

1274
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: And that's what I was about to bring up. I'm

1275
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 3: you guys are describing.

1276
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 5: Hey, he wants to feel like what it's like to

1277
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 5: be canceled and then clime out of the cancelation.

1278
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: That's bipolar manager shit.

1279
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: He brings up the Truman Show his whole career, and

1280
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: you can even he talks about with a bipolar brain,

1281
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: how it can feel like that without bringing up the

1282
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: Truman Show? Is this his version of getting out of that, Like,

1283
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: let me say all the right things. And in a

1284
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: time when we've cared about mental health more than any time,

1285
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: it's been an excuse for everybody anytime anyone crashes out,

1286
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: can't do nothing, Oh it's because of mental health. So

1287
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 2: now he can take this time to prove his fucking

1288
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: point and experiment in his bipolar brain that I'll just

1289
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: say all the right things. He even said with some

1290
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: of the bully clips before the justin leaboy shit, I'll

1291
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 2: just go back to doing the so shit, he'll be back.

1292
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: I'll just say all the right things.

1293
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm just being that's a very, very thought out process.

1294
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: You have to be on a certain clear headed, consciousness

1295
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 4: thinking level to be able to think that far and

1296
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 4: come up with a plan and then execute that plan. Now,

1297
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Kanye doesn't have some mental health issues

1298
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: or some mental health things he needs to address. I'm

1299
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: not saying that I would never write that off. I'm

1300
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: just saying, with all of this, the Wall Street ad

1301
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 4: and all of this, and you know, you can't expect

1302
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: me to be like, oh, okay, well then not. I

1303
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: totally understand. That's like, no, I get it. I'm not

1304
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 4: saying he don't have mental health issues. But what's going

1305
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 4: to happen after all of this ad and the bully

1306
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: come out and then we're back to another rent.

1307
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 5: That's if it happens. You talking about in the future.

1308
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 5: We don't know if that's going to happen. You can

1309
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 5: only speak on what's going on right now, what you've

1310
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 5: already seen.

1311
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: Let's play the odds here, what are the odds that

1312
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: he is going to have another run?

1313
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 5: So I think there is there. There's definitely a odd

1314
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 5: that he will have another rant. But at the same time,

1315
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 5: he's about to have a whole interview.

1316
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 3: If he has.

1317
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 5: Another rant, it doesn't take away from what he said.

1318
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 5: If I'm I said that, if I'm bipolar and mannicut,

1319
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: I'm in the process of ruining my life, and then

1320
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: I get I med and look back and be like, oh, fuck, y'all,

1321
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 5: I ruined my life. Let me come out and apologize

1322
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 5: for it. It doesn't mean that I'll never be manned again.

1323
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that I'll never make another sage decision.

1324
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, what is all

1325
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: of this for? Though?

1326
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: But what is the ad and all? That's so back

1327
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: to what I'm saying. It just feels performative. It feels

1328
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: too as part of the whole, you know, the whole thing.

1329
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 5: Well, that's a You're probably right, but I'm going to

1330
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 5: give them the benefit of the doubt because anybody else

1331
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 5: get the fucking benefit of it doubt.

1332
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: So I mean that's what I started with. We've seen

1333
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: this with so many white actors and people that have

1334
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 2: lost their fucking minds. They never got any second chances

1335
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: after they pulled moves like this where they got the

1336
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: whole PR team to tell them exactly what to say,

1337
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: put them in front of the right person. And now

1338
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: we're like, yeah, you can start back in movies. You're

1339
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: fine now you listen, you were in Hollywood.

1340
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

1341
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: Black people have not really gotten that luxury when they've

1342
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: had mental breakdowns. That's kind of been specifically for the

1343
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: rich white So yeah, I mean, if they can do it,

1344
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: I can't, Hey, post something in the Wall Street Journal

1345
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: and do the same pr move that everyone else does.

1346
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

1347
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I'm just

1348
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 4: saying me as a person just looking at this, this

1349
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: just feels too as part of the play.

1350
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 3: Which again I think a couple of things can be true.

1351
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: But separating from Kanye, do you think this is wrong

1352
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: for artists to do in general and not take advantage

1353
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: of mental health? And again, I think that's a gray

1354
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: area with what Kanye is doing right now, down to

1355
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: the Frank Ocean announcing he's gay on Tumbler right before

1356
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: Channel Orange. A lot of artists the only time they

1357
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: want to speak is when they're putting out their music.

1358
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 3: They speak to their music like they have to promote it.

1359
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: There has to be a rollout.

1360
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: I kind of hate when artists get that flat, like, oh,

1361
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: you're doing this for the rollout. Everything's a rollout, this

1362
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: for the rollout. A lot of artists up until the

1363
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: TikTok era did kind of mind they fucking business. I

1364
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: know there was the DVD era, the blog era, this

1365
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: and that Instagram whatever, But for the most part, artists

1366
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: say the biggest things when they're trying to sell something.

1367
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you?

1368
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's wrong with it? And a lot of times

1369
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 2: a lot of artists, with the things they have to say,

1370
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: ends up feeling okay to say after you record an

1371
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: album that has to do with the themes in the

1372
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: subject matter of what you're getting at, even down.

1373
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: To like.

1374
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: The song that is one of the funniest things you

1375
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: said that when Forrest Gump came on from Channel Orange,

1376
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 2: was in the shower and you almost wrap yourself around

1377
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 2: the curtain de lead turning that shit off. But who's

1378
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 2: to say that Frank didn't feel better about coming out

1379
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: after writing that song, Like sometimes that can empower somebody

1380
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 2: to say certain things about what is happening. So yeah,

1381
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: do I think there's a lot of artists that are

1382
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: calling paparazzi or fabricating making up these drama things like, oh,

1383
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: we have to just get the internet talking when I

1384
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: sell some of course I'm not stupid, but I do

1385
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: give a little bit more flat two artists like Frank

1386
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: Kanye to a degree because Kanye kind of is the

1387
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: reason we're all here, or with these dramatic rollouts, but

1388
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: sometimes that's the only time they want to speak. So

1389
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: and if I have to sell something, and I'm not

1390
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 2: a marketer, I'm an artist. I sit in the studio

1391
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: and make music. I don't know how to market. The

1392
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: only thing I know how to do is be myself

1393
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: and talk about what's going on in my life. And

1394
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that with y'all until it's

1395
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: time for me to come out of my hole, which

1396
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: is in the studio. That's the time I'm going to

1397
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: get on every one of these platforms.

1398
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 4: But the only problem I have with that is the algorithm.

1399
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: Everybody's playing the algorithm game.

1400
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: Have no choice.

1401
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 4: How do you get into the algorith How do you

1402
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 4: get to the top of the algorithm. And we know

1403
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 4: that the algorithm rewards negativity, that's what makes it to

1404
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: the top of the algorithm. You disrespect somebody, somebody has

1405
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: a fight somebody, you know, whatever. That's what makes it

1406
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: to the top of the algorithm. Disrespect, negative energy.

1407
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: Right.

1408
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: My only thing with Kanye is I feel like he

1409
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: knew that. So a lot of the things he said

1410
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 4: were disrespect absolutely, That's how he controlled the whole. You know,

1411
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: He's at the top of everyone's algorithm. You couldn't open

1412
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 4: your phone, you couldn't go on social media and not

1413
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 4: see Kanye at the top.

1414
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: Right. So, now, not in.

1415
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 4: His personal business, but I think it's safe to say

1416
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: that he may have taken the hit financially for some

1417
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: of the things that he did and said over the lot, right,

1418
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 4: just a small smoke, just a little bit, just a

1419
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: little bit, right, cool.

1420
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: And personally and personally because you also have to understand

1421
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: he well no longer is married, but is tied in

1422
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: he is for the rest of his well, I was

1423
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: going to get to his ex woo. Yes he's married

1424
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: to Bianca. Yes, since sorry, yeah married, My apologies. He

1425
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: was married to a conglomerate, like, let's remember that as well,

1426
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: which affects everything that has to do with his personal life.

1427
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: His personal life became a conglomerate by his choice. I'm

1428
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: not giving him sympathy. Trust me, that was his fucking

1429
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: choice as a grown ass man. But that, yeah, that

1430
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: affects the Kardashian billionaire conglomerate. Not saying it's Adidas, but

1431
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: it ain't that fucking far away from it. Now that

1432
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: affects you seeing your kids and then your own personal

1433
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: money is fucked.

1434
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 4: Up based off the things you said. Yeah, because again

1435
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: you get caught up in this negative thing. When I

1436
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: say some negative is right to the top of the algorithm,

1437
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: right cool? Now you give us this in the Wall

1438
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: Street at yo. You know mental health frontal load damage.

1439
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know undiagnosed.

1440
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: Cool?

1441
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: And if that's real, we understand that, like damn, that's

1442
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 4: you know, it's fucked up that that went undiagnosed all

1443
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: of these years. Hopefully he's addressing that and getting help

1444
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: for that. My thing is, why are we attaching that

1445
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 4: to him? Why do you have to attach that to

1446
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 4: sell something? Though, like Kanye's talent speaks for itself at

1447
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 4: this point, Kanye don't have to do none of this

1448
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 4: to sell something. Kanye could just announced an album at

1449
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: midnight and the numbers are gonna do what the numbers

1450
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 4: are gonna do.

1451
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: I agree, So that's when I have a problem with this.

1452
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 4: Like all of this role you don't need to use

1453
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 4: this as an angle for your rollout to sell something.

1454
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: But this is the thing.

1455
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 5: You can't confirm that that's your opinion of what he's doing,

1456
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 5: but bouncing off the back of that's what it is,

1457
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 5: Bully is coming.

1458
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: Okay, understood that.

1459
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is he could have wanted to

1460
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 5: say this for five months, right, So then say it no,

1461
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 5: Because this is the thing, y'all, especially when everybody hates

1462
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 5: you or you feel like everybody hates you.

1463
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: Right, let's reality versus your perception.

1464
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 5: If you feel like everybody hates you, and on top

1465
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 5: of that, you feel like you don't really owe people shit,

1466
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 5: and people are gonna talk shit about you anyway. People

1467
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 5: are gonna sit on their podcast and not believe what

1468
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 5: the fuck you're saying. Anyway. Okay, if that's the case,

1469
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 5: I'm going to use that to my advantage. If I

1470
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 5: was an artist, I would do that too. I'm not

1471
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 5: over here trying to convince y'all that I'm being that

1472
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 5: I'm being real, or that I'm being authentic, because y'all

1473
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 5: are gonna believe me or y'all aren't gonna believe me.

1474
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 5: But if this, if I'm gonna come out and be

1475
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 5: vulnerable with you when I've given you so much of myself, Yeah,

1476
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna attach it to my album.

1477
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to.

1478
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: I don't have to improve to y'all that I'm being authored.

1479
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: I don't try to sell me something. Improve and be authentic.

1480
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 5: So you're saying you will believe it, you will believe

1481
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 5: this if Bully was coming in.

1482
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying that you would believe it or wouldn't believe it,

1483
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 4: no matter if the album was coming out or not.

1484
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: You believe it if Bully was coming a year from now.

1485
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 5: So then what's the point, Like, that's what if you're

1486
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 5: not gonna believe it, You're not believe is.

1487
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: Because I think a lot of people feel like I feel,

1488
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 4: which is like they don't matter that you have an

1489
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 4: album coming next week, but we don't care. You could

1490
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 4: have told us this, like I said, I didn't need

1491
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 4: this whole pr you know, press release thing.

1492
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: I didn't need that.

1493
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 4: I would rather open my phone and see Kanye speaking

1494
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 4: directly into a camera and being vulnerable, not no edit,

1495
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 4: but none of that, and be like Yo, listen, man,

1496
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 4: I said some things to me that would feel more

1497
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: genuine in some words. And I'm reading in the world.

1498
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: I don't even read the Wall Street Journal, and I

1499
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: know you'll start there. I don't even I don't even

1500
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 4: read that picture.

1501
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: There's a group of people that read it. There's a

1502
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: group of people that, of course see his ship. His

1503
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: frontal low was opening up. Next, I just start opening opening.

1504
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, this is we know what

1505
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: this is. Let's just stop acting like we don't. Kanye

1506
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: don't have to do no promo Kanye, but Kanye on

1507
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: his on his Instagram, they could just say Bully, that's it,

1508
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: not and the numbers that's gonna do.

1509
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna have the number one album.

1510
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: Nope, which you mean no, I don't know about him

1511
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: having enough.

1512
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: Giveless Bad Buddy run another commercial.

1513
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: That would be the I think his album's coming out

1514
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: February eighth. I think it's coming around the same fucking like.

1515
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: The only reason Kanye ain't got the number one album is.

1516
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: If everything after super Bowl is gonna be number one

1517
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: for Bad Bunny. But all right, with that said, Kanye

1518
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: has surpassed that. Of course, anything with Kanye, that happens

1519
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: with us in this room. He doesn't need to do

1520
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: a rollout. We are going to see it. I even

1521
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: have Vultures too in my fucking laptop, and I don't

1522
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: even think it got released, and I'm saying they sent

1523
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: it to me. It was just leaked. With I pay

1524
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: attention what I'm saying now. Kanye is so super past

1525
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: that entire thing. That's why he's one of the highest

1526
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: streamed people on Spotify history. Even if he's twenty five.

1527
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: That's still crazy. With that said, he with all his

1528
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: comments about the Jewish community and everything, does need to

1529
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: address that to sell the album because I think Bully

1530
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: would go to deaf Ears. By deaf ears, I mean

1531
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: just the type of people in this room that pay

1532
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: its chance to hip hop. I'll tell you this, My

1533
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: mom and her best friend were in my car. Wait,

1534
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: let me finish. This is Kanye you told them about

1535
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: I know.

1536
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm telling you people.

1537
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: Don't Kanye puts out an album tomorrow his fans.

1538
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: Can we look up what Vultures did. Vultures Won that

1539
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: came out on DSPs. Let's look at the numbers. You

1540
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: think that one number one one nowhere near number one.

1541
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: How did he release I don't even remember the last

1542
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: Kanye West album that went number one.

1543
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, number one ain't as easy to come by as

1544
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 5: like we think, well Kanye, no.

1545
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 4: For Kanye either, Well, Kanye got kind of the way

1546
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 4: he was releasing Ship and putting it out.

1547
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: You didn't know if it was out, if it was not.

1548
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: It did go to number one.

1549
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: It no hip hip hop guys. I'm talking about number one,

1550
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: where Kanye used to.

1551
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 5: Be Billboard two hundred Albums chart number one on the

1552
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 5: Billboard two hundred.

1553
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: Ain't no fucking way.

1554
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: At that time, when Taylor Swift was coming out that

1555
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: Kanye West was number.

1556
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 5: One, forget this Okay, We're back, Rory was wrong.

1557
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: Completely fucking wrong. Vultures spent number one on Billboard for

1558
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: two weeks. Carnival I was an incredible record, I was.

1559
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: I was talking more about that album. Yeah, I spent

1560
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 2: two weeks there. What was the first week sales Josh

1561
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: one forty eight thousand, which is incredible, Okay, but I

1562
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: still think that's lower numbers one forty eight for Kanye album.

1563
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: And my point was that I was getting to was

1564
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: the Pete Davidson in Game song is the one that

1565
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: went the craziest for Kanye when it came to the

1566
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: news outside of the numbers, when he said, uh, Pete

1567
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: Davison dies at AIDS and put the video out that

1568
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: my mom and her friend listened to that records like,

1569
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: did you hear about the new Kanye, the one with

1570
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: game Mom? That's the one you're talking about, because they

1571
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: were talking about Pete Davidson and all the gossip shit.

1572
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: So I was saying, to your point of Yeay, being

1573
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 2: in that negative algorithm shit, he has to do stuff

1574
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: like this to get to that next level.

1575
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 4: Kanye doesn't have to do anything, and that's the point,

1576
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 4: and I think that's the point that people have to

1577
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: understand by.

1578
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: Okay, but do you also remember Vultures, which I was

1579
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: completely wrong about. Do you remember the Vultures rollout? Uh?

1580
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: He had every.

1581
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: Fucking right wing streamer. They were in that hotel room

1582
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: streaming for fucking seven days. They were kicking women out

1583
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: the fucking room. They were doing the Andrew tape rollout everything.

1584
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: It was the most negative shit. So I'm saying he

1585
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 2: still has to do stuff Vultures did.

1586
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: I was wrong.

1587
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: Vultures went number one. But now to that point, Yeah,

1588
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: he had a insanely negative rollout and a very public one.

1589
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: So you're saying he doesn't need to do that, Yes

1590
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: he does. He needed to do that to make Vultures

1591
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: be number one.

1592
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: No, because every other album went number one before that

1593
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: and he didn't.

1594
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 3: You don't remember all his antics through every album.

1595
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 4: Ever, I'm saying he didn't have to do what he

1596
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 4: did as far as a rollout on the Vultures album.

1597
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: And I'm saying you don't have to promo your stuff.

1598
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying I think Kanye West is at a point

1599
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 4: in his career now with these things, these all the

1600
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 4: tricks and things that every other artist has to do.

1601
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 4: He does not have to do that. He invented those tricks, though,

1602
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 4: but I'm saying he doesn't. He no longer has to

1603
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 4: do that. He can just again Instagram yay Bully, So

1604
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 4: all white letters, black background, Bully. That will be enough

1605
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: people know the album is coming.

1606
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: That's it.

1607
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 4: This is Kanye West, one of the most influential artists

1608
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 4: of his time. He doesn't influential. He doesn't have to

1609
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 4: do these things that everybody else is.

1610
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to do that. I hear what you're saying.

1611
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: All.

1612
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 5: But you have no baseline for the past. Let's say

1613
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 5: past ten years, right, you have no wait ten years,

1614
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 5: how long would it be damn time flying? Okay, let's

1615
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 5: say past five years, five to ten whatever. You have

1616
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 5: no baseline of him not doing wild shit to sell

1617
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 5: album to say he doesn't need to be wild shit

1618
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 5: to sell Twenty.

1619
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 3: Years of Kanye's career has been that.

1620
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, He's always done wild So you can't say Kanye's.

1621
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: Always done wild shit to sell the album. This is

1622
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: this is this is.

1623
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 4: This is recast, this is really he hasn't always done

1624
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 4: wild ship to sell the album.

1625
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 5: But past ten years in the in the age of

1626
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 5: the you need the internet to sell albums.

1627
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 4: Or or because the algorithm awards negativity. Okay, that is

1628
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He doesn't do negativity. Does he still

1629
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 4: sell the same that was rory?

1630
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: I think yes, So this is Kanye.

1631
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 4: See before the before the algorithm, he was selling shipload

1632
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: of records, influencing all artists. After the algorithm, yes he doesn't.

1633
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 4: He does not. He became a victim of that, he

1634
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 4: fell into that. I think he didn't need to do that,

1635
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 4: and I think now he's realizing he didn't have to

1636
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 4: go that far. He didn't have to do all of

1637
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: that negative shit he was doing and saying those things

1638
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: he was doing.

1639
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: Actually think this is perfect more because you're making an

1640
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: amazing point. We're talking about all the negative shit he

1641
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: did to get number one with Vultures. Now he's doing positive.

1642
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: Let's take out if we think somebody else wrote it.

1643
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: This and that bully he said with justin Leaboys miseducation,

1644
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: it's only about positivity. Every bar is supposed to uplift

1645
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: everybody in the world. He did a full apology of

1646
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: his whole entire career in the Wall Street Journal.

1647
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 3: Let's see what this could be.

1648
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: What's his rollout for the gospel album? Because that was

1649
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: positive rollout?

1650
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: I love that.

1651
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: What's his rollout for that? Oh?

1652
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: I mean even when he did with Sunday Service, Sunday

1653
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 2: Service to travel the country Withould Requie, I thought it

1654
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: was aweso, it's beautiful.

1655
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: I went to Yeah, thought it was great fucking fire.

1656
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1657
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: So no, okay, but things definitely turn in the Internet

1658
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,959
Speaker 2: after that time. The Internet was still negative at that time,

1659
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: but but it turned to everything negative type of world

1660
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: that we're it currently in, right, now everything has to

1661
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: be negative. I'm curious to see to your point, with

1662
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: him going with a positive rollout, what happens. I don't

1663
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: have any predictions. I have no idea.

1664
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: For me, it's.

1665
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 4: Always this and it will always be this with any

1666
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: of these artists. I don't care about your rollout. I

1667
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 4: don't care about your rollout.

1668
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: Want you care if the music is good? What does

1669
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: the music sound like? That's my thing.

1670
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't care about this Wall Street ad. I care

1671
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: about his mental health. Hopefully he's addressing that and he's

1672
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 4: getting help for that. You know that part.

1673
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely I care about But I didn't need the

1674
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: Wall Street Ad.

1675
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: Just again, I think it's actually a great experiment to

1676
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: see if positivity even fucking works in a rollout. Yeah,

1677
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 2: but it being humble, if being hey, I need forgiveness

1678
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 2: because as I fucked up, I said a bunch.

1679
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 4: Of But how would you know if it works with

1680
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 4: Kanye's gonna go number one?

1681
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: No matter what.

1682
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: You've proven me wrong with the Vultures, thing is actually

1683
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: going to we'll have an answer.

1684
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 4: The album goes as long as he stays away from

1685
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 4: Bad Bunny, as long as he.

1686
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: Stays away number one, because that can change. Let's look

1687
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: at the stream sales, which I hate, who cares about that?

1688
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: But let's let's look at the sales, all right? What

1689
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: are we we used to do sales guesses? What are

1690
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: you guys guessing?

1691
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:25,480
Speaker 1: Units?

1692
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 5: Album equivalent units?

1693
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: That's it. It is soul because I don't even know

1694
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: what two hundred. I don't even know what that means.

1695
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: How many?

1696
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 4: How many pre orders did Rocky have a million? How

1697
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 4: many did he sell for? How many was his first

1698
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 4: week numbers? Because he has a number two. He didn't

1699
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 4: debut at number one?

1700
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: Right now, he had a number number one?

1701
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, over over bad bunny. Your congrats states.

1702
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: That Rocky is he has a number one album one

1703
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two.

1704
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: I think he ate was does two hundred because I

1705
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: do think with this Wall Street journalship.

1706
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: Plus Rocky debut a number one? Yeah?

1707
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: Right now, congrats States have Rocky Gucci?

1708
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

1709
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 3: Great?

1710
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1711
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: I think if Vultures did one and Yeah is doing

1712
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 2: his apology tour, I'm two hundred.

1713
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 5: I'm going one twenty. I'll go one twenty under Vultures

1714
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 5: unless unless he sells something and packs it out. Unless

1715
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 5: he sells something, can you pull.

1716
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 4: Up the rabbit, the rabbi that he was speaking with

1717
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 4: a couple of months ago that shook his hand and.

1718
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: That was crazy. That was fucking crazy.

1719
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1720
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: No, no, I've had a version of that.

1721
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: Rabbi. A lot of people have.

1722
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 3: Never heard that.

1723
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 4: Is that rabbi? Uh did you Rabbi Yoshi Yosef? Yes,

1724
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 4: remember that Kanye made his amends.

1725
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: There we go.

1726
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 4: So then we got that, right baby, the follow me

1727
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 4: that was November, following you everywhere? That was November? Where January?

1728
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 4: Now we get the Wall Street add apology tour. Do

1729
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: you not see how how his team and staff are planning.

1730
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: I say that I'm not disagreeing with you. So that's

1731
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: where it's for me.

1732
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 4: I say, performative, planned, need this, then we're going to

1733
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: do that, and we're going to do this, and then

1734
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 4: the album comes.

1735
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: So it's every artist it's been performative.

1736
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm just saying for what he's done over

1737
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: the years and said, for him to now make this turn,

1738
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Speaker 4: you can't expect somebody like me to be like, oh yeah,

1739
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Speaker 4: I feel him. You know, I don't expect you to.

1740
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Speaker 4: But I also don't think that Kanye is doing this

1741
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 4: for you.

1742
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: I'm one of his I'm one of his consumers.

1743
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're.

1744
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Speaker 5: Gonna cut you bought in his In his height of

1745
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Speaker 5: the Worst Ship, he was saying, you bought easy boots.

1746
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Speaker 3: You're not the person he's apologized and you know what

1747
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Speaker 3: I think, but he doesn't.

1748
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Speaker 4: But again, my thing is if you want to say,

1749
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Speaker 4: apologize to people you hurt with your words, I'm always

1750
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Speaker 4: for that apologize.

1751
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: Right. My thing is why attach it?

1752
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: Like you said, why are we getting an album coming

1753
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: off the wall Street thing?

1754
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 4: It's just stop selling ship for a second. Sit down, yeah,

1755
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 4: but sit down, get your mental health together, get your

1756
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 4: life together. You mean your kids just growing up door.

1757
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 4: Stop selling shit for a second.

1758
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: But he hasn't sold us anything in a couple of years.

1759
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Speaker 3: Well you talking about he's been well, has been waiting

1760
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Speaker 3: for his boots for a while.

1761
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Speaker 2: He sold a Swasi commerci last last February, I mean us,

1762
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: But we're going into February the next year and I

1763
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 2: still got.

1764
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: Kanye kinda hasn't stoped selling stuff.

1765
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: But all right, well and we can close this because

1766
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 2: I know this dragged a bit, but you would like,

1767
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: do you consider artists a brand at this point? I'm

1768
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: not a businessman. I'm a businessman like certain certain artists.

1769
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: Everybody niggas just saying no, no, no brand using artists in

1770
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 2: the same vein ye one million. So you don't think

1771
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: Pepsi beats to the drum of how we're going to

1772
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: move based off how we're selling something. Why is Kanye

1773
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: who is a brand at one point was just as

1774
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: valuable as a major corporation that has been around for

1775
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: one hundred years, because that's how talented Kanye West was

1776
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: with his vision. Why can he not move at the

1777
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: same pace that every more major corporation does.

1778
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 4: Because he's saying that he has frontal lobe damage and

1779
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 4: mental health issues that he needs to address.

1780
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: Pepsi an ad with Kendall Jenner stotting racism by opening that,

1781
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: and I know it's the craziest commercial of all time.

1782
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: They had an Asian playing the violin at a riot.

1783
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: Pepsi put out an ad, Yo, we messed up, We're

1784
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: gonna do better. At least Kanye gave me some more

1785
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: words that made me feel like I'm actually talking to

1786
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: a human being. And he's a brand that at one

1787
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: point probably not as valuable as Pepsi, but close in

1788
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: the billions. Why can't he move the same way. His

1789
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: life is a brand. He's always going to sell. He's

1790
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: selling his personality. He was married to the conglomerate of

1791
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: selling your personality their brands. The Kardashians are a brand.

1792
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: You don't get Skims without Kim selling herself her lifestyle.

1793
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: These people, anytime they walk outside, they're selling themselves. I

1794
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: don't mean that in a negative way, and I don't.

1795
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

1796
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 4: Everything you're saying is correct. What I'm saying is if

1797
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 4: you're having mental health issues, if you're front, I think

1798
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 4: all of you need. You need to sit the fuck down,

1799
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 4: go live on the off off of fucking farm somewhere

1800
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 4: for a couple of years, get your mental health together, relax,

1801
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 4: stop trying to sell push it in the consumer space

1802
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 4: all the time, Like just fucking chill and relax.

1803
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: You made enough money. Life is great.

1804
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: Get your fucking get your get your physical mental health

1805
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 4: in order before you start to jump back into the

1806
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: space and want to sell shit again.

1807
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: That's like, that's all I'm like telling Pepsi to stop

1808
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: selling the Pepsi that's in our fridges every day. No,

1809
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: that's not That's how you become a billionaire, that's how

1810
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 2: you go. That's the difference between Kanye also whole, but

1811
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: he has done it outside of his lifestyle brand. That's

1812
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 2: the difference. They sell things every goddamn day and Kanye

1813
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: to Rihanna did not become a billionaire until she started

1814
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: selling fenty and her lifestyle brand that she could match

1815
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: with what she was doing with the music videos.

1816
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but her being Rihanna is not. Yeah, but what

1817
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 4: do you talk What point are you making, Rihanna. I'm

1818
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: not saying negative shit about a group of people in

1819
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 4: the world. Rihanna's not going on no, no, no.

1820
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: We're talking about a separate, separate point the point.

1821
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: Stop trying to sell.

1822
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that he has the mind state

1823
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 2: of a corporation because he is one. Now he walks

1824
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: outside and is being sold, so his mind is always there.

1825
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean go fucking buy a Nazi chain. I'm

1826
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: not saying I'm not co signing that. I'm just saying

1827
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: where those types of brains are at. He's he's a corporation,

1828
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: not to the way some other rapper is that also

1829
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: sells alcohol. You're talking about somebody that has entered billionaires.

1830
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: When Rihanna walks out every time when she's with Rocky,

1831
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: when she's with her kids. Of course she's living her

1832
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: life the way she wants to live it. You don't

1833
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: think she's throwing on the fency coat. She knows her

1834
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 2: whole life is being sold every time she walks out

1835
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: that fucking building.

1836
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Speaker 3: Okay, so dyah, that puts them on that MA wants.

1837
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 5: So here's the thing, MA, all authenticity, the majority. I

1838
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 5: won't say all the majority honesty, the majority of the

1839
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 5: authenticity that we are sold because we are being sold authenticity,

1840
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 5: because authenticity is what mixed. That's why we have so

1841
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 5: many influencers, right, and influencers that have become the new

1842
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 5: celebrities because they're just normal people that showed us our

1843
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 5: lives and now we relate it to them and now

1844
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 5: we give them. We bought shit from them, and they

1845
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 5: influence our lives. So authenticity a lot of times is forced,

1846
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 5: it's fake, it's acted, and some people are better at

1847
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 5: it than others.

1848
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 3: Kanye didn't take that route.

1849
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 5: He didn't get in front of the camera like Diddy

1850
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 5: did after the rape accusations come out and said hey,

1851
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 5: I'm working on it with God me and my pastor

1852
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 5: and did the fake authenticity. He did it the way

1853
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 5: that artists used to do it when the label was

1854
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 5: running everything. I'm going to put out a fucking press release.

1855
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 5: Now I have a whole bunch of money, so my

1856
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 5: press release, I can force it to be seen by

1857
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 5: the people I want it to be seen by.

1858
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 3: And I can understand why that might rub you wrong.

1859
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 5: But please understand that even when people are doing the fakes,

1860
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 5: sit in front of the camera with the black T

1861
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 5: shirt while they're in their kitchen and their kids are

1862
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 5: in the back playing and their wife is bringing them

1863
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 5: a play of food. That's staged too, but it's staged

1864
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:03,919
Speaker 5: to look authentic.

1865
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 3: Kanye just didn't.

1866
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 1: Well, you look, Kyrie Tailer, this is all the stage.

1867
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 3: Everything is a state's and that's the way I live.

1868
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: I agree with Kyrie and Kanyek learned that pretty early,

1869
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: and that's why I think Kanye believes a lot of

1870
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: shit that he's saying.

1871
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: So I'm with you there.

1872
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: But to the demericis point, Kanye has in the years

1873
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: of gangster rap, came out with a fucking polo and

1874
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 2: said I'm a nerd dog like he he sold a

1875
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 2: group of people, a large group, authenticity of I'm around

1876
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of people that usually if you're in this position,

1877
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna pretend like, no, I'm from Chicago, I'm a

1878
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm g d. Now I'm a nerd. I'm an art

1879
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: student in a time when it wasn't cool to be

1880
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: an art student. So everyone took his introduction to the world. Also,

1881
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: that's what he really he was. That was authentic on Kanye, That's.

1882
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 3: What I'm saying that that was in every that.

1883
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: Was his most authentic. That was him.

1884
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he worked at the Gap. He was a gap kid.

1885
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 4: Well gap, he was a preppy kid. That's and there's

1886
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that, Like, of course the space for.

1887
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: That in him.

1888
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, at a time when it wasn't even

1889
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 2: cool to say that type of shit, you got to

1890
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,520
Speaker 2: that point authenticity.

1891
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 4: And that's what got away from is in hip hop

1892
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 4: you are rewarded for being authentic.

1893
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: That's what it used.

1894
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 3: At a time.

1895
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 4: You couldn't even sound like other rappers at one point,

1896
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: even if vocally and tone wise, we just had natural

1897
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 4: just saying people like yo, that ain't gonna work. You

1898
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 4: sound too much like this person, or you look too

1899
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 4: much like that person, like you had to be authentic.

1900
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: Now it's just.

1901
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 4: Cookie cutter shit. Put him on the conveyor belt, shut

1902
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 4: him down the line. And I'm saying an artist is

1903
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 4: talented as Kanye should not fall into that because he

1904
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 4: doesn't have to.

1905
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 2: Well, when he was yelling listen to the kids, Bro,

1906
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 2: I actually liked that. But now I'm I'm starting to

1907
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: see where that disappeared, because I think you're handicapped in

1908
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: a good way because you grew up around three people

1909
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,520
Speaker 2: that actually made the things they were living so authentic

1910
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 2: that that was the lifestyle that was sold to the world,

1911
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: and that's why they fell in love with that that company.

1912
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: Kanye ended up being a kid in that company as

1913
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: far as his authenticity as well. And then Kanye started

1914
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1915
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1916
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1921
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1922
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Speaker 2: I mean I guess it's a good segue into the

1963
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: Kitcutty thing. Another person that was always authentically themselves in

1964
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: a time when it wasn't cool to be. We've been

1965
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: having this Jim Jones Kitcutty debate for about fifteen years.

1966
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: I'm happy you finally hit the internet.

1967
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: Oh I've never heard it before.

1968
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh this has been a this is an age old

1969
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: fucking wrap barbershop conversation. So kid Cutty replied, I'll be

1970
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: honest with you, even when I was looking it up,

1971
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what sparked Cuddy doing this.

1972
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1973
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 5: Well, Jim Jones spoke first. Jim Jones Fair came on

1974
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 5: this podcast. Jim Jones came out and said that people

1975
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 5: only heard of Day and Night and Josh, can you

1976
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 5: pull up the direct quote please, something along the lines

1977
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 5: of people only heard of Day and Night because Jim

1978
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 5: Jones remixed it, right, So then you get the internet,

1979
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 5: you get the New York Internet, agreeing with him in

1980
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 5: the other forty nine states, saying I've never even heard

1981
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 5: that version.

1982
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 4: You know what's funny with that alone.

1983
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: It's a cover of a song that's already out, So.

1984
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, how can people only have heard it because

1985
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 4: you remixed it or you made a cover of the song,

1986
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 4: like that makes no sense.

1987
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 5: Okay, so people would know who Kid Cutty is, yeah,

1988
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 5: he said, people with no Kid Cuddy.

1989
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: Okay, what was the original?

1990
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: So all right? I have some like actual talking about

1991
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: Day and Night?

1992
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So I have some actual, like.

1993
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 2: Real knowledge into this timeline because I worked at Binnie

1994
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: Means when Binnie Means produced the video of Jim Jones

1995
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: in the booth. You can pull up Day and Night

1996
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: remix Jim Jones. Aristotle produced that video. Bb Gun shot it.

1997
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: It was a by any Means production. At that time,

1998
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: the song was still bubbling. Yes, did they play the

1999
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: Jim Jones verse first? That then got put into the

2000
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: Kid Cuddy Day and Night song on High ninety seven

2001
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: on the radio when radio was still very very much

2002
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: prevalent in two thousand and eight and in the blogs.

2003
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: Was was that a moment when Jim Jones got on it?

2004
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

2005
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: So. Jim's right for the tri state to some degree.

2006
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: But at this time Cuddy was living in Brooklyn and

2007
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 2: Jersey City, like Cuddy was working that record in New York.

2008
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 2: That's how Jim probably hurt it because Cuddy was working

2009
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: that record. But to say that that moment of Jim

2010
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: Jones shooting that video in the studio, the red lights,

2011
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: the blunt of going on that beat, that's what played

2012
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 2: at parties, in the club and on the radio in

2013
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: New York City. Only speaking about that, but to say

2014
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: that Hot ninety seven in two thousand and eight didn't

2015
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: determine the hip hop market of all fifty states, you're bugging.

2016
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 2: Maybe that's New York ego, but there's no way that

2017
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 2: you're telling me that what Hot ninety seven was doing

2018
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight did not dictate what a

2019
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: lot of places were doing in middle markets. Atlanta, of course,

2020
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: is always going to do their own thing, La is

2021
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: always going to do their own thing. But if you

2022
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: don't think people are not following what Hot ninety seven

2023
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: does in.

2024
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 3: This period, you're bugging.

2025
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: Now.

2026
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Speaker 2: With that said, I saw Cutty's response. He's also completely correct.

2027
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 2: That record was going bro it was going so and

2028
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: I think Cuddy is a publint. It was a New

2029
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 2: York City remix, but it was one of those things

2030
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,719
Speaker 2: in New York that became a staple of Jim Jones

2031
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: on that record. But that record was going doog like

2032
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,480
Speaker 2: and I think it's a hit record.

2033
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 5: Where we have to be And that even goes back

2034
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 5: to the conversation that me and Maal just eventually agreed

2035
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 5: to disagree on when it came to is Drake the

2036
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 5: reason why the Migos exist? You can say I made

2037
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 5: this better and I put more eyes on this, which

2038
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 5: you can't say, is this your career would never exist

2039
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 5: without me. There's a difference. There's a difference between I

2040
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 5: helped you and I helped you grow. But there's also

2041
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 5: some things that would all were always going to jump off.

2042
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 5: It might have just taken a little bit longer. Day

2043
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 5: and Night was always going to be a hit. Jim

2044
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 5: Jones knew that. That's why the fuck he hopped out

2045
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 5: as no Artist's song, because the ship was so hot

2046
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 5: he had to be on it.

2047
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: Also, Jim Jim is an incredible a and R so

2048
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: is Jim has always been great at understanding what sounds

2049
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: good before he even knew how to wrap.

2050
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: Jimmy was that good at that.

2051
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, he heard a record like, oh, this shit

2052
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: is hard, I don't care what the world thinks. I

2053
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 2: think it's hot, so I'm gonna get on the record.

2054
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: Jimmy's always been that way, so I know probably in

2055
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 2: his brain he's thinking, like, I don't care if that

2056
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: was gonna be a hit. I was rapping on that

2057
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: no matter what. And yeah, it brought shit. My BlackBerry

2058
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: with the side scroll ringtone was Jimmy's version of Day

2059
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: and Night and two thousand and eight like that, that

2060
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: was a record. It played in the party better and

2061
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: then Cuddy Shit came in and it was a moment

2062
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: because they had both of them and Jim coming off

2063
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: ball in like it was a thing.

2064
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 4: I think, can we put up when Day and Night

2065
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,959
Speaker 4: uh played on Entourage?

2066
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Because I think that was the That was definitely big.

2067
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: That was the moment.

2068
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: It was also big like when same era when Entourage

2069
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: had Charles Hamilton Brooklyn girls on it, that was big.

2070
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: Aserage premiered a a different version of What's the Kanye

2071
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: with t Pain Good Life. Go watch Entourage. They premiered

2072
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: the song the day before it came out. It's a

2073
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: different version. Kanye changed it that night.

2074
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: I get what Jim is saying.

2075
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 4: Jim definitely, you know when he did Day and Night

2076
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 4: that went platinum in the hood for sure, But I

2077
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 4: mean Day and Night was gonna be Day and Night

2078
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 4: if Jim never did that. Yeah, Like when you're getting

2079
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 4: your song placed on the biggest show on HBO, the

2080
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 4: Monumental Show, Like, if your song is making it there, bro,

2081
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 4: Jim never If Jim never did Day and Night over

2082
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 4: that song was gonna be what it is, Like.

2083
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: That Cutty is a talent that if there's a bunch

2084
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: of people in his circle life that never existed, he's

2085
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 2: still gonna be cutting Like, yeah.

2086
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: It's now, but now Jim's Jim's version diggle platin.

2087
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: The hood hood like we're going to like, we're not

2088
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: gonna do that, But it also went platin in the

2089
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: hood because the Day.

2090
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 1: And Night song, the Cuddy song was so dead and

2091
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: so was so big.

2092
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 2: And in the context that you guys pulled up. I

2093
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: have to give some pushback, just on a personal level,

2094
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 2: he said, my intern shot that video. I mean, if

2095
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: you considered Aristotle an interurn, I guess that's fair. But

2096
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: I want to give a lot of credit to Aristotle,

2097
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 2: who went on to shoot videos for fucking nas fab

2098
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 2: j Cole has a feature film on Hulu right now,

2099
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: like aristotleto is super established, So I kind of wish

2100
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,440
Speaker 2: Jimmy would have not said it that way because Aristotle's

2101
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: so established.

2102
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 3: You could have said, you know, Aristotle would bb gun

2103
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 3: shot that.

2104
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 4: So that air that aired November two thousand and eight

2105
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 4: on Entourage Day and Night when the Gym's Day and

2106
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 4: Night drop same around the same time, because that was

2107
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight.

2108
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: October, if anything.

2109
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 4: So okay, so Gym's came out October two thousand and eight. Yeah,

2110
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 4: and the Autarge episode was November two thousand and eight, which.

2111
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: Means it was shot probably seven months before.

2112
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we can't you got to speak to when

2113
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 4: it was played though, like when people actually heard Damnage.

2114
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's around the same time. But Day and

2115
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 4: Night was definitely taken off way before that.

2116
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2117
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was about to say even then Entourage

2118
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: of when they shoot everything and then do the scores,

2119
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 2: I guess, but that was playing on radio.

2120
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was it was a reversh Yeah,

2121
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: that was a that was a big record. But it's just.

2122
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 4: I get what Jim is saying, know, like, because he

2123
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 4: did that, you know, his version of the record, it

2124
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 4: definitely was big, you know what I'm saying. But I

2125
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 4: just think that Jim just you know, the words, just

2126
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 4: the wrong choice of words.

2127
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 5: See you beat Mare, you do that a lot for people.

2128
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 5: You give people a lot of better figued out and

2129
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 5: be like no, never FERIORI would he be like, you know,

2130
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 5: I feel like he was trying to say, and I

2131
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 5: think he was trying to say, no, niggas know what

2132
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:23,759
Speaker 5: they be saying.

2133
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying.

2134
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 4: Is he just it's the wrong choice of words that

2135
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 4: he chose. Now, the song, his version was big. Jim

2136
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 4: Jones version of the song was big. It was, like

2137
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 4: I said, in the hood, everybody was playing that shit.

2138
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 4: So I get why in Jim's mind and his perception

2139
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 4: is because everybody he's around that That's what he was saying,

2140
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 4: was his version of it. So I understand that. But

2141
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 4: for him to say what he said, I'm just saying, like, nah,

2142
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 4: you you definitely your version of it definitely was big.

2143
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 4: But that song was that song with or without your version. Like,

2144
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 4: but we're not going to take it away from Jim

2145
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 4: Jim's version of Damn Night being a.

2146
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Hit because it was oh yeah, no, two things. That's

2147
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

2148
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 4: Just just the wrong choice of words that he chose,

2149
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 4: that's all. I'm not saying that he didn't mean what

2150
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: he said. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying

2151
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 4: he chose the wrong words, because day and night, Kid Cuddy.

2152
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 3: He chose the right words to prove his wrong point.

2153
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: But even again, oh yes, yes, but also with somebody

2154
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 2: that's been batting a thousand on cosons, I can see

2155
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: why he would think, like, no, everything that I co

2156
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 2: signed before everyone else does in my circle clearly seems

2157
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 2: to be right. But also in two thousand and eight,

2158
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: the entire music industry had moved to LA.

2159
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: Yet let's not act like.

2160
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 2: All the execs that was pushing everything with Cutty wasn't

2161
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: in their cars going home like, oh shit, all right,

2162
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 2: Jimmy on this, this is going crazy in New York.

2163
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 2: Let's not act like that's not a thing at that time.

2164
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: You guys can say we're irrelevant now, and it's fine.

2165
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 2: We can argue about that at another time. In two

2166
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: thousand and seven to eight, Yes, it was a thing

2167
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 2: that Jim Jones and Kid Cutty were playing on Hoigh

2168
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 2: ninety seven NonStop for every exec on their drive home back.

2169
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 3: To New Jersey.

2170
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: For sure, Like, yeah, I'm mad at that.

2171
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 2: Like that, definitely, I'm sure that helped Cutty in his meetings.

2172
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: Cuddy is a genius. He's going to be cutting no

2173
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: matter what. But let's not act like at that time

2174
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 2: when everyone was gravitating towards that song with the execs

2175
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: that lived in the energy of this city at that time,

2176
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 2: that wasn't helpful. I know if I was in an

2177
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 2: A and R office in every fucking morning I'm driving

2178
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 2: to work, and every night I'm driving to work, I

2179
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 2: hear this goddamn song with Jimmy's version on it coming

2180
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: off the bones, Like, all right, cool Cuddy is at

2181
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 2: this point too. You have to understand it's two thousand

2182
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: and eight. They're just getting into the tight pants thing.

2183
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: This is eight to Ways and Heartbreaks. Nope, same, We

2184
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: talking about Kanye kind of being a trailblazer where it

2185
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,480
Speaker 2: was cool to be a nerd just for him.

2186
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 3: All right.

2187
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 2: The Hood is coson in this because don't act like

2188
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 2: the office at that time didn't think what the hood

2189
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 2: was thinking at that time. Jimmy was a good co

2190
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: sign for what was going on. Cuddy is a little left.

2191
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 2: We heard he's working on this Kanye album. I don't

2192
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 2: know he wears weird tight pants. He's out of his

2193
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: fucking mind. Yeah, a co sign from the Hood at

2194
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 2: that time for an exec, like, all right, cool, the

2195
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: Hood's fucking with it. This sound isn't that crazy because

2196
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 2: we're coming off all rom browse shit at that time.

2197
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: This is polished. This is like eighties pop, weird dark

2198
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 2: tones and shit. Yeah, this is kind of nuts coming

2199
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 2: off that rom browse shit. That the Hood will fuck

2200
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: with this. That's important, Yeah, to how a record starts

2201
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 2: to get broken. I know everyone wants to take credit

2202
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 2: once the record is number five on Billboard, But it

2203
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: takes the Hood to get it there, that's all, especially

2204
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: if that I.

2205
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 3: Don't think it takes the Hood to get it there.

2206
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: But at this time with execs and in buildings, that's

2207
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: a thing.

2208
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 3: Energy used to be a thing.

2209
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 2: That's where you get sav and Steve O best of

2210
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: both offices, people that actually used to go out into

2211
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: the street and figure out what the fuck was happening

2212
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 2: in not New York City but the entire country. Everything

2213
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: people say that the lab are missing is where you

2214
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 2: merge Jim Jones and Kid Cuddy with Day and Night.

2215
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 3: That's when shit worked.

2216
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 2: Ye all, right, hood co son and his weirdo shit

2217
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 2: and I don't mean weirdo in a bad way.

2218
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 3: Hood his co on and his weirdoshit.

2219
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Bottom line, this day and night was a smash.

2220
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 3: Cuddy out of here.

2221
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter A huge record, huge record, no

2222
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 4: matter who remixed it, huge record.

2223
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 2: Are you guys gonna watch this? Hit Boy and Mike

2224
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,520
Speaker 2: Will made it versus.

2225
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 3: Oh kick ass?

2226
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: For sure?

2227
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 4: I watched because a lot of records, Because h hip

2228
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 4: boy Mike Will got a lot of fucking records.

2229
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Yeah, I'm watching this. Who y'all

2230
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: think is gonna win? Hit Boy? Yeah? You said that

2231
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: really quickly. I agree. But you said that quickly.

2232
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 4: I mean I say it all the time, and not

2233
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 4: just because that's my guy. Hip Boy might be the

2234
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 4: most talented producer. When you can produce an entire collection

2235
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 4: for Nas and then you know, produce for Beyonce and

2236
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 4: then you know, produce for you know, Nipsy, and you know,

2237
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 4: it's just the range that hit Boy has is it's undeniable,

2238
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just it's unbia

2239
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 4: it is.

2240
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 5: But for the first ten I think Mike Will might

2241
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 5: the first ten. I think it's gonna be up and up,

2242
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 5: but I think after after those ten, I think hit

2243
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 5: boy will start to come in.

2244
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

2245
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 2: I think Mike will Is is kind of like the

2246
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: Atlanta hit Boy because I'm with you.

2247
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 3: Hit Boy's range is absolutely insane.

2248
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: He can he can play a Beyonce.

2249
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: But if you can go from Meik Millon Ross Tupac

2250
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 2: back and then go to Miley Cyrus record, Mike will

2251
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 2: has the most insane. He has ranged as well. Listen,

2252
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 2: there's a reason why this is gonna be dope. They

2253
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 2: both have in future. That's the point, hit Boy, it's

2254
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 2: not knows why you changed.

2255
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 4: And if you play that, If you play that future record, Mike,

2256
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 4: what what happens to if throwing niggas in Paris?

2257
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 5: So niggas in Paris is automatic win? Right, automatic win?

2258
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 5: But you know what else is also a automatic win?

2259
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 5: Poured up? Poured up is an automatic win to me

2260
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 5: for a lot of people. You gotta remember it's not

2261
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 5: it's not just about Rihanna up. I still got my money,

2262
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:18,719
Speaker 5: yeah yeah, like and and make her dances automatic win.

2263
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 3: But also that Michael has Beyonce. Didn you do formation.

2264
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 2: Uh, was Formation him or hit Boy? No, that was

2265
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 2: Mike Will, Oh it was and don't get a twisted ship.

2266
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Hip Boy has records on the last two Beyonce.

2267
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Project No, yeah, that is that's him? Were the

2268
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: sixteen candleship Like, but I don't know if that Black.

2269
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 5: Beatles Black in a versus today Black Beatles Black Beatles

2270
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 5: in the City.

2271
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,919
Speaker 3: We talk about twenty sixteen, Like come on now.

2272
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 2: No, this is this actually in a weird way, makes

2273
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 2: more sense than the Boy Wonder and Hip Boy Battle.

2274
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: M hmm, yeah, because of the range you're talking about.

2275
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they both just have a lot of records, also

2276
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 2: with the same artists as well.

2277
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: In the jobs. Can you pull up that billboard top producers? Oh,

2278
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't like where was hit Boy at

2279
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: on that?

2280
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 5: I didn't know that Mike Will did Humble by Kendrick Lamon.

2281
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

2282
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 2: So all right, Humble and DNA versus Mad City, which

2283
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: is one of the craziest hit Boy beats of all time,

2284
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: which is off good kid map.

2285
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: I think you're pulling up is this R and B

2286
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: was producers? Okay?

2287
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean a lot of these didn't go

2288
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 2: with specific rings, like Boy Wonder has rightfully so hit

2289
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: records with I Just want to show you one else,

2290
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 2: but has so many with Drake hit.

2291
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: Boy was on it.

2292
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 3: Move That Dope by Just Move That Dope.

2293
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Control F and then type and Hip Boy, I'm gonna

2294
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 2: you and I are going to go through like a

2295
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Microsoft word.

2296
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 5: Move that Dope by Future pharrells. Wow, one of my

2297
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 5: favorite beats of all time.

2298
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: No hit Boy on the top producers of the twenty

2299
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: first century? Who did the list?

2300
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 3: Rolling Stone?

2301
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: What you expect?

2302
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 3: Well, no, no Billboard. It's based off like actual data.

2303
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 2: Oh and my thing with hip Boy has I don't

2304
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 2: even want to call him cl classics because they're huge records,

2305
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,839
Speaker 2: but hip Boy has more of like the records Beyonce

2306
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 2: was experimenting on rather than the hit records.

2307
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 1: Niggas in Paris is a top song.

2308
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 5: Of course that should be like that's automatic win. There's

2309
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 5: nothing that a loan should put him somewhere based off

2310
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 5: how many you have. So even if that's that's one, I.

2311
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 2: Guess, yeah know, though it is gonna be interested though

2312
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 2: no tire, it still works.

2313
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 5: Click Click goes Click is gonna go crazy. Sickle Mode

2314
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 5: is gonna go crazy.

2315
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 3: That's that's hip boy.

2316
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 5: That's not like Will I know I'm hit boy.

2317
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: He's not even he's not he has to be pictures

2318
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 1: right there. He's literally as big as for real.

2319
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie to y'all.

2320
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:55,480
Speaker 5: Mike Will has more hits, hits, he has a significant.

2321
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 3: We've seen in verses where that doesn't necessarily mean.

2322
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 1: Everything got to be on others.

2323
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of how you structure your playlist and

2324
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 2: how songs go against each other, Like.

2325
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: It's how Yeah, that's a very big part of the verses.

2326
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 3: You can have more hits that don't mean anything.

2327
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 4: It's like when you play him versus like especially if

2328
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 4: I got to play a record.

2329
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,799
Speaker 1: First, it's like playing a hand of spades.

2330
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 4: You got to play your hand right, because now if

2331
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 4: I play, you know, one of my biggest records, and

2332
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 4: then you play something that people just like more, it's like, Okay,

2333
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 4: who got that? Yeah, Like I'm not saying they might

2334
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 4: have charted the song I play, might have charted hiding

2335
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 4: the one you played, But as.

2336
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,799
Speaker 2: Like in the jay z Jar another tip his biggest

2337
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 2: record New York, State of mont or Empire statement yeah,

2338
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 2: you think jay Z's playing that in his verses. No,

2339
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 2: of course, not like just because you have bigger hits

2340
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 2: there doesn't mean anything. Yeah, and even I wouldn't say

2341
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 2: Ludacris shouldn't have beat Nelly, but it shouldn't have been

2342
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: a wash. Nelly had had an awful Like how did

2343
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 2: you even think to structure it this way?

2344
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited.

2345
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm curious if they're going to go one for one

2346
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 2: or if it's going to be the fifteen minutes set

2347
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 2: verse fifteen minutes set.

2348
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: I think it should be that.

2349
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 3: I prefer that. I think it's cool that.

2350
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 4: I think that the whole versus is. I think we

2351
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 4: kind of got away from what it was at one point.

2352
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 4: It kind of turned into more of a just showcase

2353
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 4: of songs, and you know, performative is more performative now.

2354
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 4: So I like that way of doing it, like that,

2355
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 4: that type of setup, like you take fifteen minutes, I

2356
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 4: take fifteen minutes.

2357
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the last one they did with cash

2358
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 2: money and no limit, they did it that way. And

2359
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 2: hopefully there's performers like I would love to see Race

2360
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 2: Fremmer together again with Mike will JD.

2361
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Definitely dodged the bullet with that bad boy one didn't.

2362
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 4: He wouldn't want to be attached to that.

2363
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about they was going for the Mercedes

2364
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: Benz Stadium.

2365
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 2: I know that was gonna be I know they boot

2366
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,879
Speaker 2: that was that was gonna be a d and everything.

2367
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: Hey JD.

2368
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 4: I know I know he happy that one didn't go down. Yeah,

2369
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 4: to have to pull that up and look at that

2370
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 4: over and over again on YouTube.

2371
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: Shit.

2372
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: Speaking of Jad, I did listen to Ari lennox album

2373
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: Vacancye over the weekend.

2374
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 3: It's good, It's really good.

2375
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 2: It's it feels like Ari is more comfortable and less

2376
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 2: anxious than she was on the last project, because I

2377
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 2: know she was dealing with a lot of stuff behind

2378
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 2: the scenes with labels and this and that is this

2379
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 2: is this a fuck Dreamville? I wouldn't say that. They

2380
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 2: said it was a very horny album, but but Ari's

2381
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 2: always well, she got.

2382
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Off the label and now she can be horny against.

2383
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 3: Okay, because you know, you squirted when you're comfortable.

2384
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 4: You got to be the most comfortable, got to be.

2385
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 4: If she's not comfortable, she ain't gonna squirt.

2386
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 2: Worry.

2387
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that or I don't

2388
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 1: know that.

2389
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 3: That's a call back, y'all. I'm not being over the freakdown.

2390
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 3: That's very funny. Uh.

2391
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 2: Well, all of Ari's music, I wouldn't say Ari's music

2392
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 2: is horny, but she's always talked about sex through or

2393
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 2: just because it's a neo soul sound. Are you listening

2394
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 2: to the lyrics?

2395
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 4: First of all, the Neil's soul women are the most

2396
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:00,879
Speaker 4: horny Jill Scott just because.

2397
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: They got the pepper liner to a MIC's and I

2398
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: feel like instance.

2399
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 4: And they got Bob Marley on the wall. Don't think

2400
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 4: that she ain't about to go in there and squirt

2401
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 4: all over the place.

2402
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: Yo. Yeah, I mean, don't let that neo soul shit

2403
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 2: for you. Just shade but and all that, I know,

2404
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 2: But no, most of I want to say most, but

2405
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 2: a lot of Ari's music is I wouldn't say, just

2406
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 2: sexually explicit. Yeah, the record we did together, the first

2407
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 2: bar is ex videos. I don't need those anymore.

2408
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I know, I know, yeah.

2409
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 2: But no, it feels it feels like she had less

2410
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 2: people in her ear and knowing her, this felt like

2411
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 2: an album that she actually had full fucking control with

2412
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 2: with j D and Brian Michael Cox because they executive

2413
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,560
Speaker 2: produced the whole thing and they did everything in the

2414
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 2: compound Atlanta. No, it's good, It's very good. It stripped

2415
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 2: all the fat of the last two projects where I

2416
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 2: felt like she was super in her head and had

2417
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 2: too many people telling her what to do. It's not

2418
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 2: far off her regular sound. If you're an Ari fan,

2419
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 2: it's still an Ari album.

2420
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: This shit what she wouldn't know.

2421
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 2: She's with Interscope, so she was signed with Dreamville and

2422
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 2: Interscope left Interscope, I'm sorry, left dream Bilt just.

2423
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 3: Stayed within her scope.

2424
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 2: God, which is good too, because if you're not on

2425
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 2: a sub label, now you own fifty percent when I own,

2426
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 2: but you're fifty percent of your shit as opposed to

2427
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 2: twenty five because if you signed it with sub label,

2428
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 2: they take twenty five. And yeah, so signing direct to

2429
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: the labels, yeah, a bit more profitable.

2430
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: I'll get it. Shout out my Niga.

2431
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 2: Ari, but yeah, no, check out Ari Vacancy. Really good album.

2432
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 2: Shout out to what JD got he got in his bag.

2433
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 2: He has little ad libs and shit on there. I

2434
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 2: felt like I was listening to some Aria shit back

2435
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 2: in the day. A lot of it is like two

2436
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 2: thousands of Mariah and I'm about to go run to

2437
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 2: it right now. No, and she and Ari was always

2438
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 2: great with valseatto shit, but she went more volsatto than

2439
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 2: I've ever heard her before on her previous projects. But

2440
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 2: now JD throwing a little ad libs in there, and

2441
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm not mad at this shit.

2442
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: JD and B Cox at the whole album fire. Yeah,

2443
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: in the.

2444
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Studio that we've bentually they locked in and it just

2445
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 2: did the entire thing fire.

2446
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 3: So I liked.

2447
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 2: I liked that R and B compound there where they

2448
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 2: were Division eighty five and j JD.

2449
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 1: Even doing that for a lot of years.

2450
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 4: Man, Like I you know, I always speak highly JD,

2451
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 4: like he's what he's been doing, you know, the last.

2452
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 2: Fuck thirty years more than that Chris where I was born.

2453
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Cross was the early nineties were approaching almost

2454
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 4: JD's been working.

2455
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: Over thirty over thirty five years.

2456
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: Thirty five now sobly thirty eight probably thirty five years yeah, nineties.

2457
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ninety one.

2458
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 3: No, but even I don't think Chris Cross was even

2459
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 3: his first group.

2460
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: That might have been the first one, though.

2461
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying that was the first one that popped. But

2462
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:01,759
Speaker 3: he's been working well.

2463
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 4: No, he's been I'm from about JD is a hip

2464
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 4: hop baby.

2465
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 3: He was back, he was jump came out in ninety two,

2466
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 3: ninety two.

2467
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 5: Oh, let's give him since the nineteen since nineteen ninety,

2468
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 5: let's give him since that.

2469
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: So I said thirty five almost thirty five years. Thirty

2470
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: four years.

2471
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 2: Shit, It's funny anytime I've been to his compound and

2472
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 2: there's been like a big R and B artist there

2473
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 2: that didn't work with him prior. Every single time I've

2474
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 2: talked with him on the side and be like, yo,

2475
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 2: I've never been with a legend that still touches the machine,

2476
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 2: which to me is a big big things. Like every

2477
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 2: time I get with a list legendary producer, they don't

2478
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 2: touch like they just be hitting space bar and some shit,

2479
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like.

2480
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: All right, who who did that?

2481
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 2: No, JD is still JD sits there and cooks up

2482
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: from scratch. He's going to hit every instrument when you're

2483
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 2: in there, like.

2484
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 1: Shout out to him.

2485
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 4: And because I think they was number one, number two

2486
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 4: on the Top Producers of the twenty thirt which they

2487
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 4: fucking should be.

2488
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: That's insane. Shout out to the guys. JD.

2489
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: Brian talks before we get to either voicemails or close

2490
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 2: out this first Netflix episode.

2491
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:04,799
Speaker 3: Good job, guys.

2492
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: I do I really.

2493
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,719
Speaker 3: Hope this Chad Hugo and Pharrell thing gets gets solved.

2494
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at at if Chad feels like he

2495
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 2: was done wrong and he's owed royalties. We know Chad

2496
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 2: Hugo is a genius the same way that Farrell is

2497
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 2: a genius.

2498
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 3: We know Chad is just kept to himself.

2499
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 2: But if you're not paying royalties, and I'm not saying

2500
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: Pharrell is even responsible for that, he could have put

2501
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 2: that in people's hands, his business management team and said, hey,

2502
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 2: you figure out the publishing, make sure everyone's paid. I

2503
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 2: don't want to sit here and condemn Pharrell for those

2504
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 2: types of things because I don't know the information. If

2505
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 2: he did that shit, I'm here to condemn him, my

2506
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 2: favorite producer, I'd still condemn him. But I hope they

2507
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 2: figured this out.

2508
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

2509
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:50,560
Speaker 2: See my favorite fucking production duo just be in this

2510
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 2: place where no one's getting paid.

2511
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 3: What the heir owed this? This was sad sad to see.

2512
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if I'm Chad does yeah, fucking pay me

2513
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 2: what you owe me. I'm not gonna sit here for

2514
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 2: the for the love of the game, for the love

2515
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 2: of the game. No, and and and again, I don't

2516
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 2: we don't know the full details. They just said that

2517
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 2: Chad Hugo had filed a lawsuit for specific records Drop

2518
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 2: It Like It's Hot, how the bat Girl Moneymaker?

2519
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 3: You know, just billion dollar songs.

2520
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 4: Right, some songs that literally kept on the lights of

2521
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 4: some of these offices.

2522
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 2: Still, yes, the back catalog is and I mean and

2523
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 2: that was at the time, you know who knows what

2524
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 2: MTV news with pr when they were like, oh no,

2525
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 2: it's a I think it was a million dollars for

2526
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 2: Drop It Like It's Hot that I was a kid,

2527
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 2: But I remember watching MTV and they asked Snoop Dogg

2528
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 2: was like, would you pay for that beat? It's like

2529
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,799
Speaker 2: I had to pay Forell a million dollars for that beat.

2530
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 2: A million dollars for one beat.

2531
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 3: It was worth it.

2532
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 2: That's up front. That's not you still get. Yeah, you

2533
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 2: don't know anything. I don't know a lot of priters

2534
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 2: don't take any money upfront. You just get fifty percent

2535
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: pub and you can live for the rest of your

2536
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 2: life off that shit. Farrell was charging a million dollars

2537
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 2: a beat at that time in fifty percent.

2538
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 4: Publishing, and you don't know what that song is gonna do.

2539
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 4: It sounds great in the studio, we all vibe into it,

2540
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 4: the homies just fucking with it. We don't know what

2541
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 4: this is going to do in the world, though, so

2542
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 4: I might be overpaying for this beat, and it's like

2543
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 4: that shit I ain't even recool.

2544
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 2: Now, obviously we know Chad is no novice to anything.

2545
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 2: I give for a lot of credit because, like Swizz,

2546
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 2: I've seen interviews where artists are like, why Swiz and

2547
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 2: Pharrell were so great to work with. When I got

2548
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 2: to the studio, they had the beat and the hook

2549
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 2: already done. All I had to do was fill in

2550
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 2: the verses. This wasn't even a cookup session. You gave

2551
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 2: me a hit record. You're on the hook, you wrote

2552
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 2: the hook, here's the beat. I'm filling in three verses

2553
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 2: and we're done. I could do that in ten minutes,

2554
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 2: and now I have the biggest record of my life.

2555
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 3: If Fharrell is.

2556
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 2: Writing those hooks, yeah, I could see him taking more

2557
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 2: royalties in pub on certain things. But there's a lot

2558
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 2: of Chad beats with the Neptunes that everyone says Farrell

2559
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with, and Chad did all the beats.

2560
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what's true at all. I just know

2561
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 2: they're my favorite production duo and I hope they figure

2562
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 2: it out. But I just don't think Chad, who's been

2563
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: mana his business and is quiet, is doing this for

2564
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 2: no reason.

2565
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 5: Do you think that where there's smoke, there's fire in

2566
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 5: sense of like Pharrell being a little bit funny with money,

2567
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 5: because Kalise has been complaining about him for years as well.

2568
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 2: Possibly, and again I don't want to discredit Kalise whatsoever.

2569
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean that that album in itself is like a

2570
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 2: two thousands classic. The amount of kids that came from

2571
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 2: that album. Tyler's a kid from that album. You listening

2572
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 2: to Tyler albums now and you can hear Thecalise's first

2573
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 2: album and you hear the same shit. I've also heard

2574
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 2: that she didn't write on it, but I don't want

2575
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 2: to take that.

2576
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 3: From Chalice because I don't fucking know.

2577
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 1: I was a kid.

2578
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, But there's been so many conflicting points from producers,

2579
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 2: engineers on who wrote what, and a lot of people

2580
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 2: have said, all right, Pharro wrote some of that shit,

2581
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 2: so why wouldn't he take royalties on it?

2582
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's the most confusing business on earth.

2583
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I make a T shirt, the T shirt's

2584
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 2: ten dollars, the designer charges this much, and we put

2585
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 2: it up for fifty percent markup, and the person distributed

2586
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 2: and gets ten percent. That's an easy business. I don't

2587
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 2: know what a baseline cost or what it's going to

2588
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 2: affect how many points. I don't know what that is.

2589
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 2: If I make a baseline that we later find out

2590
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 2: is the reason why everyone loves this song, I'm going

2591
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: to be sitting there like, YO, give me my fucking money, dog,

2592
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 2: that's the reason why we all love this shit. Now,

2593
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 2: you can't do that with a T shirt. I sold

2594
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: you this T shirt for ten bucks.

2595
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, this T shirt is always worth ten bucks.

2596
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 2: This moment was like, it's such a confused in business

2597
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 2: that it's enemies and awful people in it.

2598
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 3: For sure. It's not even when the people that are

2599
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 3: trying their best. It's tough.

2600
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 1: It's not a confusing business. People make it confusion.

2601
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying we publishing specifically.

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01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 4: That's still not confusing. Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra had

2603
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 4: no confusion.

2604
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 3: Well they're going to fifty fifty.

2605
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:21,879
Speaker 1: You see how us that no confusion.

2606
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,719
Speaker 4: But then no contracts and we never had a contract

2607
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 4: with each other, none of that handshake conversation. This will

2608
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 4: we this is how we rocket. People make it confusion

2609
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 4: when they start doing funck shit. It's not always function.

2610
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, no, sometimes you might not. Sometimes two

2611
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 5: people can disagree on how much they brought to a project.

2612
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 5: You I bought this and you bought this. You might

2613
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 5: value this more, but I value this more. The fans

2614
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 5: value this more. It can get confusing.

2615
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 4: No, you make it confusion. We were having this conversation

2616
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 4: before anything goes.

2617
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 3: Out this door.

2618
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: No, we're making what happens that song in the studio

2619
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 2: right again here, right now. We haven't touched the lyric,

2620
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 2: nothing has been played nothing. We're having a conversation. Yo,

2621
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 2: this is how we This is what we're doing.

2622
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 3: That's not work.

2623
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 5: That's I was gonna say that, but that's the creative process.

2624
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 5: You haven't created anything. You don't know what you're going

2625
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 5: to create. Are you see what I'm saying. I can't

2626
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 5: tell you what my worth is right with with this beat,

2627
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 5: I'm making a beatcalices writing lyrics. I can't tell you

2628
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 5: what this beat is worth because I haven't created it yet.

2629
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 5: I can't tell you what these lyrics are worth because

2630
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 5: I haven't created it yet. Is the is the beat

2631
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 5: the most important? But important is the lyrics? You don't

2632
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 5: know the part.

2633
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: You're missing, is what I'm saying. You look at somebody.

2634
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if any of these people were talking

2635
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 4: about have a more extensive catalog or more you know,

2636
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 4: value catalog than Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra, Pharrell.

2637
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 1: Whoever else you want to name.

2638
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if their catalog is worth more than

2639
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 4: Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra. What I'm saying is the

2640
01:51:54,160 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 4: conversation that those two gentlemen add was very simple conversation shake,

2641
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 4: no confusion. Their entire career working together, none and they

2642
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 4: made a fuck ton of money with each other.

2643
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, let's say, all right, Frank was writing

2644
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 2: everything and Frank sang everything. Now let's say they put

2645
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 2: something down on a skeleton track where Quincy just had

2646
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 2: some strings playing and then he's gonna go with the

2647
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 2: whole orchestra and a bunch of musicians after Frank leaves,

2648
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 2: we have a fifty to fifty handshake. Now, if I'm

2649
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 2: a musician that played something wrote something on the song.

2650
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 2: That's what I think a lot of people misunderstand when

2651
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 2: they see Spotify credits. Writing writing doesn't mean you wrote

2652
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 2: necessarily wrote the lyrics writing the song. Child is a

2653
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 2: writer on all my stuff, even if he didn't write

2654
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 2: a lyric at all, because he wrote music on there.

2655
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 2: I put writers on everything that wrote music. It's not

2656
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 2: just lyrics. Now, if I'm a bass player and I

2657
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 2: think I deserve seven point five percent PUB on this

2658
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 2: because the baseline is leading this entire thing, I don't

2659
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:57,799
Speaker 2: give a fuck what handshake Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra

2660
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 2: have on this. Quincy, this is coming out of your

2661
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 2: fifth percent. Yeah, yeah, we're going to have a conversation here.

2662
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 2: There's not everything else is coming out of the office.

2663
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 3: Like if Frank Sinatra, and what he's saying.

2664
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,799
Speaker 1: Is I write music on that, I deserve pub.

2665
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 5: If Frank Sinatra and Quinsy Jones split fifty to fifty, right,

2666
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 5: they each have fifty to fifty if one of them

2667
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 5: brings in some people a chorus or a band or

2668
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 5: somebody to do something on there, you don't suddenly create

2669
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 5: more money out of thin air. If that has to

2670
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 5: come out of somebody's fitting.

2671
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2672
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we had that conversation with Frank. You know, Frank,

2673
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:34,759
Speaker 4: I had to pay it bits da da da.

2674
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: All right, cool, But that doesn't even come up how

2675
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 2: publishing was simple that it. That wouldn't even be a

2676
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 2: Frank conversation. That would be a Quincy conversation because how

2677
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 2: pub is split. It is fifty percent with the actual

2678
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 2: writing of the song, and the other fifty percent is

2679
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 2: split up between whatever's happening with the music. Now, if

2680
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 2: Quincy's taking fifty percent, if I know, even if I

2681
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 2: go in to do a record, I know out the

2682
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 2: gate I'm hiring musicians, and I don't play the game

2683
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 2: where I just give you a fee and take pub

2684
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 2: I just don't play that game. I'm going to be

2685
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: on the right side of history. You're gonna get your

2686
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 2: pub on that. But I know going in if I'm

2687
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 2: starting a record, if me and Nick Grant start a record,

2688
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: I know for a fact I'm going to hire some

2689
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,600
Speaker 2: musicians that are probably gonna be able to play what

2690
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do in Ableton way better than I

2691
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 2: ever could, and I'm going to give them their pub

2692
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 2: on that entire thing. So if me and Nick have

2693
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty split, if we're doing an EP,

2694
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 2: my pub is supposed to be diluted for everyone that

2695
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 2: comes in there and writes music. And now that pub

2696
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 2: gets diluted a bit more. If it's something that I'm

2697
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 2: doing on Ableton and I want you to replay it,

2698
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 2: now I can have that argument with you, like, hey,

2699
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 2: maybe you don't get twenty percent PUB on this, Maybe

2700
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 2: that's more of a ten to fifteen because I told

2701
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 2: you exactly what I wanted to do and you played

2702
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 2: it for me. And that's where I'm saying it gets

2703
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: complicated because there's no real consumer the t shirts ten dollars.

2704
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 3: We're selling it for twenty.

2705
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 2: That's a debate between two human beings and the song's

2706
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 2: not even out. Yeah, and also, Maul, you don't even

2707
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 2: know what the value of the song is going to be.

2708
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure Frank Sinatra and Quincy Jones didn't have any problems,

2709
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 5: but I promise you there's probably people that were in

2710
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 5: the studio with them or around them that might have

2711
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 5: had a problem with some things with our goats that

2712
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 5: we all love to death and speak hi when they

2713
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 5: walk in to a studio. We've talked about our favorite

2714
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 5: writers on this pod in the last two years. They

2715
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 5: don't get the pub they deserve because when it comes

2716
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 5: with this artist, they're taking fifty percent pub even if

2717
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 5: they didn't write anything. So now someone that wrote a

2718
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 5: whole song is getting two percent PUB because it's also

2719
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 5: with a producer that walks into a studios like taking

2720
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 5: if I come in here, it's fifty percent PUB. And

2721
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 5: that's what people we speak about often and we champion

2722
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 5: That happens to some of our favorite writers.

2723
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 3: Writers we've had on this podcast that.

2724
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 2: Won't speak about it because it's complicated and it's political

2725
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: and they're trying to keep their job. But yeah, you

2726
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 2: want to work on a list artist, shit, be happy

2727
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 2: with three percent if you wrote a whole record, which

2728
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 2: is crazy because you deserve.

2729
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: Fifty good point, but one point still stands.

2730
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, people people put bullshit.

2731
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 1: People put bullshit in the mix, and no they do.

2732
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 2: And I'm what I was really getting to and we

2733
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 2: can close. This is the conversation I'm saying when if

2734
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: Quincy is telling someone exactly how to play something, now

2735
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 2: we have a debate on what pubuo instead, and stead

2736
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 2: if there's been times where I've had you met Mitch,

2737
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 2: my bass player before Mitch just comes in, if we

2738
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 2: have an idea men a odd and tell them there's

2739
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 2: a different version of pub there. Then if I send

2740
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 2: Mitch a record and Mitch comes up with the fucking baseline,

2741
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 2: Mitch is taken at least fifteen percent on that he

2742
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 2: wrote a whole. I didn't even tell you what to

2743
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 2: do on the baseline. I gave you a skeleton and

2744
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 2: you came with a funky ass baseline.

2745
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: You taking fifteen percent at minimum.

2746
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 5: So if we're confusing to the average listener who isn't

2747
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 5: into music the way that we are, and they don't

2748
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 5: know about this type what we're saying into chat GPT,

2749
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 5: and it'll make a little bit more sense because I

2750
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 5: know that this can be fed be confusing for the

2751
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 5: casual music listener.

2752
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 1: They don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

2753
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 2: It's confusing to professionals and yeah, yeah that's and what's

2754
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 2: so fucked up is why everyone hates major labels is

2755
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 2: everything we're arguing about somebody else ends up owning that

2756
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: wasn't even there.

2757
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you want to write everyone's pistol.

2758
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: Yep, bully all right, Rory?

2759
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 2: It was fun, uh you know yeah, talking to you today,

2760
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 2: debating you do we have a debate today?

2761
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: I think we debated.

2762
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 3: Oh we had think we had healthy discourse.

2763
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 2: If I said something out of finished, I'm sorry. My

2764
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 2: front will load anything.

2765
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 1: There's a little.

2766
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 4: I'm not not smoking weed anymore. So my front lobe

2767
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 4: is a little more clear than it's ever been in

2768
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 4: the last few years, Wory.

2769
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 2: So next episode, I will tell you about the time

2770
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 2: slammed into a telephone pole and definitely fucked up my

2771
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 2: frontal loaf. Idn't explained so much? Why didn't. Oh you

2772
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 2: should have told me this when I first met you.

2773
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 2: It's actually a very function to lead with that.

2774
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: Like, hey, I was in a car accident.

2775
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 4: Frontal lobe was a little because in now I'm expecting

2776
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 4: anything after that, like, oh, I get it, I understand right, fair, Yes,

2777
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 4: you gotta lead with the frontal lobe injury, Rory.

2778
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Josh added to the list. My frontal lobe injury.

2779
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 2: Yes of our next episode.

2780
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 1: All right, well, this has been fun. Welcome to the family.

2781
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: The Netflix family are here. You can say it though.

2782
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:44,280
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Speaker 4: and Mall.

2785
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,919
Speaker 1: And we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed.

2786
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