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Speaker 2: Radio La Tirec dot Com studios, Jason Martin and Nashville.

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Speaker 2: And i'd ask you how you're doing, Jason, but I

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Speaker 2: want to take a quick moment and congratulate you as you,

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Speaker 2: your wife and your oldest daughter now have a new

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Speaker 2: member of the family.

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Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about it.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's a wild week and you found out about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if i've been Thursday. And thank you

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Speaker 1: for the congratulations. I appreciate that she was due on

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Speaker 1: well she or he. We no, we wanted to be surprised,

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Speaker 1: just like we were with our first child, because it's

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Speaker 1: the one thing in the world that you can't have

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Speaker 1: spoiled for you unless you make the choice. So it

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Speaker 1: was cool. The first time we wanted to do it again.

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Speaker 1: So we did did turn out to be a girl,

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Speaker 1: and so we have two daughters now. She was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be coming on April the sixteenth. If you look

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Speaker 1: at your calendar, it's March twenty. Yeah, on March twenty. First,

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Speaker 1: my wife was going in weekly for just basic checks

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Speaker 1: and things like that on Wednesdays, and so this Wednesday

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Speaker 1: she went as usual and I get a phone called

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Speaker 1: about two fifteen, two twenty in the afternoon. Hey, so

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Speaker 1: they just did a check and I am, you know,

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Speaker 1: five centimeters dilated. They want us in the hospital tonight,

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Speaker 1: So get things packed. We had nothing prepared yet, so scrambled,

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Speaker 1: got everything done, got to the hospital around five o'clock,

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Speaker 1: so about three hours later than that, got checked in

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Speaker 1: and in the room by about six six and she

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Speaker 1: was born at two am. So it was a wild,

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Speaker 1: wild day. She came earlier than expected, but healthy and

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Speaker 1: eating like a horse. And I'm really I feel like

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Speaker 1: the Lord was definitely with us, because my wife is

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Speaker 1: getting very uncomfortable being pregnant. So it was time and

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just time to get her here earlier.

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Speaker 1: So now we have Clara Grace and we have Ivy

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Speaker 1: Beth who is our newest addition to the family. And

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Speaker 1: thank goodness for technology because in the hospital, I was

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Speaker 1: still able to watch some basketball.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: I was still able to keep track on things that

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Speaker 1: were happening. And thanks to technology, I'm able to do

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Speaker 1: this show remotely. As opposed to be in downtown, in

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Speaker 1: this downtown in the studio, I'm able to do it

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Speaker 1: in my own studio, and that way, I'm still available

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Speaker 1: to do all that's going on. So I'm here and

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to do this show tonight. But I got

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Speaker 1: to say, this has been a week. This has been

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Speaker 1: an NCAA tournament thus far, unlike any that I have

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Speaker 1: ever encountered. I can promise you that, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it was funny because you texted producer Pat and

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Speaker 2: I obviously Pat is on earlier with Martin and VJ,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we're obviously thrilled for you. And then

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Speaker 2: throughout the rest of the week you're texting us some

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Speaker 2: college hoops takes and I'm like, Okay, I think he's

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure.

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Speaker 2: And so we confirmed earlier today that you were coming

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Speaker 2: in or that you were working, and we're happy to

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Speaker 2: have you Obviously we would have understood if you wanted

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Speaker 2: to take a week or two, but you know, perfect

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Speaker 2: time to have you, perfect time for the baby to come.

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Speaker 2: As you said, I'm sure it's a lot of bottle

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Speaker 2: feedings and sitting around, and so there's plenty to keep

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Speaker 2: you occupied. Obviously it is. We are essentially through day

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Speaker 2: three of the NCAA tournament. As de Seger told you,

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Speaker 2: there is just one game remaining. It is the late

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Speaker 2: Creighton Oregon game. That is that is at halftime right now,

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Speaker 2: So we'll keep you updated on that. Listen, Jason, you know,

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Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes from now, we'll have my buddy Nick

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Speaker 2: coffee he hosts on our Louisville affiliate, and he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have a lot to say about the John Caliperry situation.

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Speaker 2: But even forty eight hours later, that is the biggest

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Speaker 2: story of this tournament was another first round exit for Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, coming into coming out of

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Speaker 2: And then I think really the story got interesting. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: Obviously we know this will now be.

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Speaker 2: It's now been ten years since his last Final four

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Speaker 2: their opinions. But the question was would Kentucky actually do

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Speaker 2: anything about this situation? And I think we got relative

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Speaker 2: clarity earlier this morning. Matt Jones, who is a prominent

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Speaker 2: He tweeted out about probably about eleven am Eastern time today,

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Speaker 2: here's where the basketball situation stands. The decision is all

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Speaker 2: in Barnhardt's hands. That's the ad at Kentucky. I get

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Speaker 2: the sense that if he decides he wants to move on,

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Speaker 2: the money will be there.

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Speaker 3: For reasons Andy.

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Speaker 2: Staples described yesterday, there is a sense of nervousness with

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Speaker 2: everyone around the program because no one is really sure

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Speaker 2: where Barnhardt's mind is right now. I am told the

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Speaker 2: university leadership is supportive of whatever he decides, I think

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Speaker 2: we know something by Monday. The Andy Staples video that

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Speaker 2: he referenced basically was just a buyout primer, basically a

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Speaker 2: lot of what you and I talked about during football

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Speaker 2: season of you know, everybody sees these big, bold numbers

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Speaker 2: of Jimbo Fisher seventy five million, John Caliperi owed thirty

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Speaker 2: three million, But as we learn with Jimbo Fisher, you know,

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Speaker 2: every contract is written a little bit differently, and rarely

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Speaker 2: is all of the buyout money owed immediately or even

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Speaker 2: really within the first year or so. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think the Jimbo Fisher there was a lump sum in

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Speaker 3: Million dollar a year payment.

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Speaker 2: For the next decade to get to that full buyout money.

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Speaker 2: I only bring it up to say is that I

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Speaker 2: think we all thought change was probably needed on Thursday

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Speaker 2: after that loss. But at the same time, it's one

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Speaker 2: wonder if the money will actually be there. It sounds

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Speaker 2: like money will not be an issue at Kentucky, and

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Speaker 2: I'm curious for your perspective on what the Cats can

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Speaker 1: I think that they have to let him go if

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Speaker 1: I've seen the argument about always such a great recruiter,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that argument, but I don't care who

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Speaker 1: the philosophy and the way that cal has run the

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Speaker 1: program no longer works. It's not tenable anymore. They're getting

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Speaker 1: not to mention, of course, the rest of the country.

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Speaker 1: It's not just them getting all the one and donees

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Speaker 1: What is that at some point something has to change,

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Speaker 1: and it is winning games in March, because that's what

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Speaker 1: Oakland in this way because this team can't stop three

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Speaker 1: I got another thing. I mean, I just I got

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Speaker 1: with him. I mean, Jimbo Fisher had a great recruiting class.

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Speaker 1: Where is he? You've already mentioned him once and that's

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Speaker 1: because we were talking about his buyout and how he's

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Speaker 1: that is a skill, but we have seen other universities

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Speaker 1: just don't think that Kentucky is going to It's not

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Speaker 1: and it's like, Yeah, they played Kentucky for three months,

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Speaker 1: something does have to change because Kentucky basketball needs to

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Speaker 1: be about Kentucky basketball. It needs to be about winning

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Speaker 1: think that Cal used that to bring people in which

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Speaker 1: At this point, I just don't think that his system

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think your conversation about the recruiting, I think

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Speaker 2: that's where most Kentucky fans are at is that is

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Speaker 2: one thing. If you're bringing in recruits and you're winning,

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Speaker 2: and I think for really probably the first eight nine

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Speaker 2: ten years of his regime, he won enough where it

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Speaker 2: was okay, we had a disappointing March. But first of all,

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Speaker 2: disappointing March seven, eight years ago was losing in the

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Speaker 3: I mean sometimes it was losing in the final four.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is is that the fans, I don't think,

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Speaker 2: are any longer interested in selling you on the next

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Speaker 2: recruiting class, the next this, the next that.

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Speaker 3: I guess what I would say.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that I sort of disagree with, and

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Speaker 2: I think your thoughts are are what everybody I think,

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Speaker 2: that's what the common consensus is. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: freshmen were the problem this year. The freshmen were. They

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Speaker 2: finished second in the SEC. They you know, they obviously

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Speaker 2: thought on Friday or Thursday night, I actually did think

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Speaker 2: it was just a coaching. I mean, the freshman looked scared.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that, but at the same time,

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Speaker 2: it was if you watch the game and we don't

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Speaker 2: have to get we don't get Super x's and o's

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Speaker 2: nerdy here it's not the place to do it. But

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Speaker 2: everybody knew Oakland was gonna run his own and Kentucky

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Speaker 3: I think it was something crazy. I looked it up.

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Speaker 3: Average nine nine point nine shots per game Jason nine

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Speaker 3: point six of them were threes. So basically all he

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Speaker 2: He's shaking up his coaching staff. You know, for the

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Speaker 2: much faster, They shot more threes. The offense was kind

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Speaker 2: it's just such a wild situation. And it's just one

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Speaker 1: Coaches at that university have been fired for accomplishing more

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Speaker 2: We got to get to this Louisville coaching search tobacle

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Speaker 2: in a minute. But when you woke up on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: Here over the last you know, over the next four

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Speaker 7: Of days, no doubt about it. And I never, even

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Speaker 7: But it's still to me just seems a little just,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, it just seems crazy to think that

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Speaker 7: But they've always been in the mix for a while

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Speaker 7: is now motivated to win, not to put not to

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Speaker 7: put something in the trophy case, but to essentially dunk

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Speaker 7: on people who have claimed that he's not great. And

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Speaker 7: his ego has probably led him to be as good

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Speaker 7: as he is his coach overall. But this thing is

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Speaker 7: just the best wait to describe it, guys, this has

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Speaker 7: just run its course.

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Speaker 2: Nick Coffee Us. Nick Coffee hosts Coffee and Company three

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Speaker 2: to six eastern seven ninety Fox Sports Radio in Louisville. Nick,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, tell us about the money set up.

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Speaker 2: You know, Matt Jones Kentucky Sports Radio really plugged in,

445
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Speaker 2: especially with the administration down there, put out a tweet

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Speaker 2: today essentially saying that the buyout wouldn't be a be

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Speaker 2: all end all. Do we know how the buyout would

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Speaker 2: be structured? Thirty three million sounds like a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: It is a lot of money, obviously, but obviously there's

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Speaker 2: probably a situation where it all doesn't have to get

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Speaker 2: paid out up front this second, the day that you

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Speaker 2: fire him, As I said on my show today, I

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Speaker 2: don't think if you fired John Caliperi he walks out

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Speaker 2: of Mitch Barnhard's office with a publisher's clearinghouse check for

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Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars, Like, do you have any idea

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Speaker 2: how that would be spread out? And I assume that

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Speaker 2: would make it more manageable to go ahead and actually

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Speaker 2: make the move.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's certainly going to be more manageable if it's

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Speaker 7: not a humongous chunk and and the specifics of that

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Speaker 7: I do not know, however, And this may sound crazy,

462
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Speaker 7: because you know, thirty three million dollars to pay somebody

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Speaker 7: not to do their job is just unheard of But

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Speaker 7: let's be honest, guys, if a basketball program was going

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Speaker 7: to do it, it'd be Kentucky. And they have and

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to mention the specific name because I

467
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Speaker 7: don't know if it's this person or not, but there

468
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Speaker 7: is someone that has given a lot of money to

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Speaker 7: the UK, very well connected to Kentucky coal money, if

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, and they have intentionally stopped

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Speaker 7: giving money to basketball because they've soured on Caliperry for

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Speaker 7: reasons I don't know. This could be essentially a way to,

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Speaker 7: you know, put your money there and just say, hey,

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Speaker 7: we're going to get rid of them. I don't know

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Speaker 7: if anybody would do that, because again, I don't care

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Speaker 7: how much money you have. That's a lot of money,

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Speaker 7: at least from what I know. I'm not somebody that

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Speaker 7: has a lot of money. But no, I think what

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Speaker 7: really would be the best case scenario is that if

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Speaker 7: cal Perry wanted another job, because he will be voting,

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Speaker 7: he's not going to retire, he would leave Kentucky and

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Speaker 7: try to coach elsewhere to win, and honestly still that

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Speaker 7: his motive would be. His motivation would be to prove

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Speaker 7: them wrong. But they could offset that money if he

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Speaker 7: took another job. However, cala Perry's the most stubborn man

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Speaker 7: in sports that I'm aware of, and I just have

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Speaker 7: a hard time seeing him just not taking thirty three

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Speaker 7: million that he's owed. And it's miserable around here for

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Speaker 7: the last few years. So I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 7: if the heat was hot enough to where he would

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Speaker 7: just say the heck with this, I don't need it

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Speaker 7: that I feel like it kind of would have already happened.

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Speaker 7: So look, I still believe that it's separated. This is

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Speaker 7: what's crazy. It just seems almost impossible to think that,

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Speaker 7: you know, he wouldn't be the coach. But then again,

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Speaker 7: it also seems impossible to think that their fans would

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Speaker 7: be able to come back in and say, hey, we're

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Speaker 7: going to be just okay, this is great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Nick, just your and then then we can

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Speaker 1: ask you the Louisville question. But just as it relates

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Speaker 1: to Kentucky, just your gut feeling right now, is he

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines as a head coach next season or

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Speaker 1: is it somebody else? I certainly would't ask you to

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Speaker 1: try to figure out who that was. Well, as a

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Speaker 1: cal or, is it somebody else.

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Speaker 7: I think it's Sean Kella Perry, just because I don't

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Speaker 7: see a you know, Kentucky's not going to move on

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Speaker 7: from cal and just not have the next guy ready,

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Speaker 7: and I don't think that they do. However, I'm telling

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Speaker 7: you right now, if they do make a change now,

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Speaker 7: next year or the year after, it will be Scott

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Speaker 7: Drew Baylor, because he has a great relationship already with

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Speaker 7: Mitch Barnhart. Those two have very aligning thoughts, you know,

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Speaker 7: in regards to their faith. They already have a good relationship,

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Speaker 7: and I think, you know, Drew wouldn't leave anywhere. He

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Speaker 7: wouldn't leave Baylor for anywhere other than in Kentucky. So

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Speaker 7: I still just don't think that that's likely, if you know,

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Speaker 7: answer your question, I think he's the guy on the

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Speaker 7: sidelines next year. But maybe this is kind of the

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Speaker 7: year where it's in motion, right, Maybe they buy some

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Speaker 7: time with one season and try to figure out how

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Speaker 7: they're going to do it, because I do believe this

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Speaker 7: year was such a special team for them. They were

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Speaker 7: willing and I'm with them. I thought this team had

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Speaker 7: potential to make a very deep run and have a

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Speaker 7: lot of success, and it didn't happen, So I don't

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Speaker 7: think they were ever really thinking, you know, seriously about

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Speaker 7: the financials, the financials that go into a decision like this,

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Speaker 7: But now I know they are, and I just think

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Speaker 7: the timeline here makes it to where he could get

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Speaker 7: another year. But you know, it'll probably be underwhelming again

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Speaker 7: to the standard because the standard is very high, and

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Speaker 7: I think it'll be Scott Drew who takes over.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's really good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting too, because you know the idea

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Speaker 2: of kind of using this as kind of a balloon

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Speaker 2: year to to kind of just get your house in order.

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: We made the analogy with Jimbo Fisher earlier where it's

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Speaker 2: like it felt like once it went sideways, they were

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Speaker 2: ready to make that move. It sounds the same, Nick,

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Speaker 2: I'd be remiss. Nick Coffee joining US seven seven ninety

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Speaker 2: in Louisville. You can hear him three to six Eastern time,

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Speaker 2: Monday through Friday on our Fox Sports radio affiliate. Nick,

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Speaker 2: you know, you cover Louisville, and it was certainly an

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Speaker 2: interesting day from the Louisville perspective as as By the way,

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Speaker 2: apparently on the TNT podcast, somebody I think Seth Davis

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Speaker 2: is sitting on set with Jay Wright, and somebody said,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of texts about you Jay. I

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Speaker 2: think the implication being about the Kentucky basketball jobs. So

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Speaker 2: that video is slowly surfacing on social media. But NICKI

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Speaker 2: cover Louisville.

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Speaker 1: Louisville.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was interesting because because I was on

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Speaker 2: air filling in for Doug Gottlieb yesterday and I asked

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Speaker 2: Doug this. He called in. I said, we were on

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Speaker 2: right after the florid Atlantic gloss. I said, where do

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Speaker 2: you think Dusty make coaches next year? And he brought

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Speaker 2: up that he was a candidate at Louisville, at Michigan,

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Speaker 2: at West Virginia, where his family has ties. It turns

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Speaker 2: out that that he does choose Michigan over Louisville. You know,

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Speaker 2: it seemed like everybody just had him in Penn for

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Speaker 2: Louisville because honestly, Louisville's a better job than Michigan. What

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Speaker 2: can you tell us about that search and what the

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Speaker 2: school that you cover might do next?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I will tell you. I will tell you With

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Speaker 7: Dusty May, I know there was interest on both sides

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Speaker 7: to an extent, but I I mean, as far as

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Speaker 7: what I know in this you know, really today, you

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Speaker 7: know made me feel better about the sources that I have,

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Speaker 7: which is that they clearly made a good pitch to

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Speaker 7: him and he seemed interested. That they never truly felt

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Speaker 7: that he was in on this job. And I don't

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Speaker 7: really know what the backup plan is, but Dusty May,

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Speaker 7: you know, he floated at Vandy as a as a

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Speaker 7: spot that he was going to go. While he was

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Speaker 7: you know, he was basically done Louisville. He needs some

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Speaker 7: time to consider. And I just think if you're Louisville basketball,

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Speaker 7: no offense to Vanderbilt, but if you know that the

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Speaker 7: guy that you are wanting to hire is considering Vandy,

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Speaker 7: that would be a red flag to me because there's

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Speaker 7: really not They're not on the same planet as far

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Speaker 7: as programs. But he got he ended up getting the

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Speaker 7: Michigan offer winning that direction. I think Dusty May is

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Speaker 7: a good coach, but personally, somebody who does cover Louisville

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Speaker 7: in this market, I do think he would be a

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Speaker 7: batch bit here because we're kind of crazy. This is uh,

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Speaker 7: this is a different world with college basketball because in

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Speaker 7: our market, again, we have the two most passionate fan bases.

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Speaker 7: In my opinion, yes, I'm biased that you know, love

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Speaker 7: college troops and expect to be really really good, so

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Speaker 7: as far as which direction they go, and again I'm

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Speaker 7: just stating this as you know, an educated guest. I

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Speaker 7: suppose Eric Musselman has never been ruled out throughout and

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Speaker 7: I know that he's been somebody that they've had interest in,

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Speaker 7: they've talked to. I've never felt here's the thing, there's

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Speaker 7: a second tier of candidates, but it's kind of just

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Speaker 7: been dismissed because I believe everybody locally here just assumed

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Speaker 7: there was no scenario that Dusty May would not take

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Speaker 7: the Louisville job, and that's exactly what happened, which I

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Speaker 7: know some look at it as a hit, right, that's

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Speaker 7: not a good look that he's waiting around and kind

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Speaker 7: of used to his leverage to get another job. But

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Speaker 7: you know, you got to move on, and I think

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Speaker 7: there's some proven coaches. I know Eric Musselman is one

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Speaker 7: of those. I'm very high on Jerom saying I think

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Speaker 7: he's got, you know, the resources level has he could

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Speaker 7: have a lot of success. He could check a lot

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Speaker 7: of boxes here that the previous regime did not check.

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Speaker 7: I get that he's only been a head coach two years,

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Speaker 7: and obviously this year they were not as good, but

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Speaker 7: he lost his best player before the season actually started.

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Speaker 7: He couldn't go fill that void in the portal. And

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Speaker 7: I know he could sell Louisville to recruits, transfers and

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Speaker 7: all that. So as far as where they go from here, uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, somebody in my position personally, I hope they

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Speaker 7: go for someone that has, you know, somewhat of a resume.

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Speaker 7: But you know, at this point, it's really a lot.

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Speaker 7: It's really it's anybody's guest. Because again, the athletic director

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Speaker 7: that's in place now is Josh Hurd, and you know,

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Speaker 7: he went all in with Scott and Drew and I

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Speaker 7: think he kind of knew he wouldn't get him and

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Speaker 7: his next his next option was Dusty May, who has

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Speaker 7: since turned him down. So what was a good job.

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Speaker 7: There's some good candidates out there, but right now there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of folks scrambling in Louisville, guys, because everybody

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Speaker 7: just assumed that it was a no brainer that Dusty

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Speaker 7: May had the Louisville offer and he was going to

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Speaker 7: take the job, and that did not happen.

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Speaker 3: He is Nick Coffee, Jason, do you have anything else

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Speaker 3: before we let Nick go?

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Speaker 1: No, that was fantastic stuff, especially to drop the Scott

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Speaker 1: Drew name. We're gonna we need to go ahead, depend

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Speaker 1: in that save that audio because it turns true, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be special.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can hear Nick Monday through Friday three to

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Speaker 2: six Eastern time.

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Speaker 3: You think you're gonna to talk about this week or what? Man,

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Speaker 3: this coulda be your business.

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Speaker 7: Man, I can't wait, I can't wait fellas well.

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Speaker 3: That is Nick Coffee.

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Speaker 2: By the way, make sure to follow Nick on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at the card Connect And again you can listen to

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Speaker 2: his show Coffee and Company three to six Eastern on

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Speaker 2: seven ninety Louisville our iHeart Affiliate.

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what if Kentucky doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: coach next week, you want to pencil yourself in for

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Speaker 2: eleven twenty Eastern time with tours and Jason Martin.

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Speaker 4: And ay time.

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Speaker 1: Fellas.

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Speaker 4: It was a blast.

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Speaker 7: And again, hey, I imagine it wouldn't shock me at

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Speaker 7: all if a week from now we're talking about the

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Speaker 7: same kind of stuff. Man, College basketball is like our

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Speaker 7: religion around here.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Nick again seven ninety Louisville, our iHeart affiliate. Follow him

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at the car Connect. He is Nick Coffee,

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Speaker 2: Nick Nick, Thank you again. We'll talk soon.

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Speaker 7: Thanks fellows, Come good night.

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Speaker 2: That was Nick Coffee. Awesome stuff from Nick. We will

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Speaker 2: react to it on the back end. But for the

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Speaker 2: first time this evening, we got to get over the

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Speaker 2: news desk to Seger.

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Speaker 3: What is trending? My friend?

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, slash evening to you.

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Speaker 3: We've been here a while.

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Speaker 8: This March madness is great dune to midnight Eastern time

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Speaker 8: and sometimes beyond. We've got one late game this evening,

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Speaker 8: and believe it or not, the Oregon Ducks have yet

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Speaker 8: to attempt a free throw. And there's about seven minutes

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Speaker 8: left playing a game.

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Speaker 3: You were what's exactly what.

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Speaker 8: So to cheap shot?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Oregon up fifty three fifty two over three seed Creighton.

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Speaker 8: Earlier two seed Tennessee got a win over Texas sixty

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Speaker 8: two to fifty eight. Again, Zaga beat Kansas eighty nine

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Speaker 8: sixty eight. Bulldogs trailed by one at the half. Iowa

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Speaker 8: State and Illinois with wins Tonight, the Iowa State Cyclones

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Speaker 8: eliminated Washington State sixty seven fifty six. It was Illinois

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Speaker 8: all over Ducane eighty nine sixty three, so Ducaine coach

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Speaker 8: Keith Dambrot is now retired. North Carolina today a one

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Speaker 8: seed advanced to the Sweet sixteen, beating Michigan State eighty

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Speaker 8: five sixty nine. Tar Heels with seventeen to ohero run

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Speaker 8: late first half. Arizona eventually put away Dayton seventy eight

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Speaker 8: to sixty eight, and NC State is still alive at

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Speaker 8: overtime win tonight against Oakland seventy nine seventy three. Michigan's

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Speaker 8: new basketball coach will be Dusty May from Florida Atlantic,

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Speaker 8: and I must update one of the women's first round

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Speaker 8: games going on tonight. South Dakota State trailed after the

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Speaker 8: first quarter against Utah twenty to three three points in

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Speaker 8: the first quarter of an NCAA tournament game one basket.

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Speaker 8: They were only down three points at the half, twenty

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Speaker 8: seven to twenty four. Utah's lead now in the fourth

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Speaker 8: is fifty five forty three over the jack Rabbits. To

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Speaker 8: the NBA, we have a late game with Denver involved,

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Speaker 8: but Nikola Jokic out with back and hip problems, Jamal

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Speaker 8: Murray at the Nuggets out with the sprained ankle, and

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Speaker 8: yet at Portland it's still the Nuggets in the lead

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Speaker 8: seventy eight seventy one with about four minutes to go

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Speaker 8: in the third quarter. Washington sent Toronto to a tenth

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Speaker 8: straight loss one twelve one, nine victories for Phoenix in Atlanta,

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Speaker 8: victories for Sacramento and New York, which beat Brooklyn today

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Speaker 8: one oh five ninety three. The Nets have lost six

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Speaker 8: in a row. Boston won its ninth game in a row,

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Speaker 8: and Houston won its eighth in a row. The Rockets

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Speaker 8: still have a legitimate chance at the playoffs. One forty

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Speaker 8: seven one nineteen was Houston's final over Utah tonight. The

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Speaker 8: Jazz have lost five in a row in the NHL

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Speaker 8: Nashville with another victory one nothing over Detroit. That's a

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Speaker 8: seventeen game point streak now. One of the Lake contests

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Speaker 8: in LA has the Kings over the Lightning two to

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Speaker 8: one in the second period. MLB opening day is Thursday

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Speaker 8: for most teams. The Cleveland Guardians reportedly placed center fielder

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Speaker 8: Miles Straw on waivers. He could end up in the minors,

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Speaker 8: he won a Gold Glove two years ago. The Philadelphia

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Speaker 8: Eagles signed quarterback Will Greer. A reminder. NASCAR's next Cup

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Speaker 8: Series races tomorrow on Fox TV from Austin, Texas, three

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Speaker 8: thirty pm Eastern Time. Kyle Larson won today's Infinity Race,

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Speaker 8: and we can update that late game again about five

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Speaker 8: minutes to go for the Oregon Ducks, now leading fifty

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Speaker 8: eight to fifty two over Creighton, even though the Ducks

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Speaker 8: have yet to attempt a free throw.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday aer toors Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee Tirek dot com studios. We will

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Speaker 2: come back. We'll react to everything Nick Coffee had to

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Speaker 2: say about the John Caliperri situation in Kentucky. Keep you

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Speaker 2: updated on the final game of the day, and it's

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Speaker 2: never too early to look ahead to Sunday as well.

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Speaker 2: That's next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Aer tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: theti iraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: Keep you updated on the final game Oregon.

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Speaker 2: The eleven seed in the Midwest region is up by

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Speaker 2: one three point thirty to go against Creighton. Fifty eight

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Speaker 2: fifty seven is the score. That is the final game

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Speaker 2: of the day. If you missed it, Nick Coffee from

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Speaker 2: our Louisville Affiliates seven ninety down there in beautiful Louisville

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Speaker 2: just joined us. Jason, what you make of what Nick

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Speaker 2: Coffee had to say. I mean, obviously, the big thing

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Speaker 2: was he believes that Scott Drew, the Baylor head coach,

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Speaker 2: will eventually be the next head coach at Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: I thought the idea of bringing it back with cal

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Speaker 2: for next year John cal Perry to kind of get

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Speaker 2: your ducks, and it sounds awful, but to kind of

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Speaker 2: get your ducks in order so that you can get

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Speaker 2: rid of them after next year. That actually was very

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Speaker 2: interesting to me because because you know that and I

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Speaker 2: said it well, Nick was on air. That's almost like

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Speaker 2: what Texas A and M did with Jimbo Fisher, which

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Speaker 2: was like they brought him back, you know, they brought

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Speaker 2: in Petrino. All that is that gonna be the guy

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Speaker 2: da da da da this, or is that gonna fix everything?

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Speaker 2: When it was clear that it wasn't going to fix

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Speaker 2: everything the second and it went sideways. They moved on,

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Speaker 2: they had their ducks in a row, and they obviously

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Speaker 2: at Texas A and M got rid of Jimbo Fisher.

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Speaker 2: I found that to be a little interesting. What did

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Speaker 2: you make of what Nick had to say?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely a theory that because we have

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Speaker 1: seen it recently kind of come to fruition the way

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned when it comes to A and M,

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Speaker 1: there could be something to that. I look at that,

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Speaker 1: and of course I think there's a lot of parallels

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Speaker 1: between those two scenarios. Of course there's not any parallels here,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just kind of like, man, if I'm a

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Speaker 1: Kentucky fan, I don't want to hear that I'm about

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Speaker 1: to have a Chargers like Brandon Staws. Yeah. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: like because basically, you're throwing away a year and you're

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Speaker 1: doing that for the future, and that might be enough

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Speaker 1: if you sell that to the guy, if you sell

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Speaker 1: that to those boosters in the alumni, Hey we're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring him back for a year. But this is not

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Speaker 1: a long term proposition. This is so we have everything

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Speaker 1: exactly where it needs to be, so that the next

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Speaker 1: twenty years of Kentucky basketball are set in motion the

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Speaker 1: way they need to be as to making this before

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Speaker 1: we're completely ready and all this. Only other question I

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Speaker 1: would have is based on that theory. Who's to say

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Speaker 1: that's not what we just saw. Who's to say that

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Speaker 1: maybe they haven't been getting their ducks in a row

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Speaker 1: since this team dropped four in a row in January

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Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and you know, they started to

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Speaker 1: look then like maybe there's already been a bit of

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Speaker 1: a paper trail here. Maybe there's already been some things

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Speaker 1: in motion behind the scenes. Maybe not. I think it's interesting. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: I do think that if you're Kentucky, you want to

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Speaker 1: make sure you've got it right. You want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that everything's lined up. And not only that, I

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Speaker 1: think you want to make sure that the guy that

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Speaker 1: you want is going to come there. Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: think you make this move unless you were one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent certain that your A one choice is going to

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Speaker 1: take the job if offered. Now, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: suggest anything illegal or more or anything else, but I

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Speaker 1: think you'd have to have some kind of assurance that

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Speaker 1: you were not going to end up with a backup

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Speaker 1: plan if you were going to make this move, like

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Speaker 1: you've got to swing for the fences and knock it out.

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Speaker 1: Not because cal Perry can't be replaced, but because if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna spend that kind of money, you better have

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Speaker 1: the right guy on the other side of it.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a great point, and I and I think

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Speaker 2: the other thing I see don Staley's got her dog

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Speaker 2: in her press conference. I love it so No, I

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Speaker 2: so I agree with that part is that you know

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Speaker 2: it's it's an emotional time.

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Speaker 3: I understand the frustration.

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Speaker 2: I understand the frustration of Kentucky fans because I I

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Speaker 2: do think you know, listen, we know what the standard

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Speaker 2: of that program is, and we know that that that

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Speaker 2: standard has not been met.

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Speaker 3: That is not that is indisputable.

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Speaker 2: I just bring it up because to your point, you

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Speaker 2: can't just recklessly.

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Speaker 3: You know you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't just recklessly make this decision without having a

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Speaker 2: real plan in place, like.

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Speaker 3: You said, knowing who you're gonna get. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: can't go into this.

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Speaker 2: And this isn't like football either, Nick, where you can

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Speaker 2: fire a guy with two weeks left in the season

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Speaker 2: and you know that you have time to kind of

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Speaker 2: vet people. This is you know, you move on from

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Speaker 2: John Caliperry. One, there's a lot of money involved. Two,

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Speaker 2: you know the clock is ticking to put together a

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Speaker 2: roster for next year. This isn't you get three weeks

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Speaker 2: to vent people and all that good stuff. And so

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Speaker 2: I think it is going to be a fascinating situation.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason will come back. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: more tournament. We'll keep you updated on the late game.

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Speaker 2: Oregon up by two with two minutes to go over

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Speaker 2: third seeded Creighton in the Midwest region. We'll keep you

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Speaker 2: updated on South three Jixcat, We'll keep updated on that. Also,

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Speaker 2: we gotta go ahead and get to the story of

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Speaker 2: the week outside of college hoops. It's show Hey Osani,

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Speaker 2: what happened and what happened next? This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Hour two Fox Sports Radio Air Tours

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tirec dot

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Speaker 2: As de Seger just told you we have one college

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00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: oops game still going on Oregon, the eleven seed in

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00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: the Midwest create in the three seed. It is headed

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Speaker 2: to overtime. We will keep you updated on that. We're

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Speaker 2: on till two am Eastern. So if this game wants

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Speaker 2: to go two, three, four overtimes, I'm chilling. I'm here

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Speaker 2: till two am Eastern. Jason, let's switch gears though. We'll

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Speaker 2: get back to college hoops here in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: by the way, But I do you know, we'd be

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Speaker 2: remiss if we didn't talk about the other major story

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Speaker 2: in sports this week, and that is the gambling story

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Speaker 2: involving Show Hey Otani. And you know, we obviously want

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Speaker 2: to be careful and how we present this because you know,

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Speaker 2: we just want to stick to the facts right now.

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Speaker 2: But it's an interesting conversation. Obviously, as everybody knows, Show

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Speaker 2: Hey Otani's interpreter has been fired. You know, multiple different

868
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: reports out one from the La Times, one from ESPN.

869
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: Uh it involves gambling.

870
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

871
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: You know, my understanding is obviously that you know it

872
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: was it was basically done through a bookie in the

873
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: in the Orange County area of California for people who

874
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: don't know. Legal sports betting is not yet available in

875
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: the state of California, And there's a lot of back

876
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 2: and forth on on what did Shohey know? Was he involved?

877
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of different stuff. It's worth noting

878
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: that the latest is as of yesterday, Major League Baseball

879
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: has opened an investigation and they are expected to request

880
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: interviews with both Otani and his former interpreter, Ipe Mizuhara.

881
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: I apologize if I mispronounced his name. A lot of

882
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: layers to this, I think, you know, unless I'm missing something, Jason,

883
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: there is no proof that any anyone, whether it was

884
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: whether Otani was involved or not, that anyone bet on

885
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: Made League Baseball. It sounds like a lot of international soccer.

886
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: But you know, what is your quick thought, not quick thought,

887
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: but just your thoughts in general on what is a

888
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: very interesting and evolving story.

889
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think evolving is the keyword. We're learning a

890
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: lot more as it goes along, and so you don't

891
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: want to jump to any conclusions. It got really weird.

892
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: You had Mitsuhara say what he said off the start

893
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: about Otani knew what was going on and helped me.

894
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I had to admit to him a friend a great friend,

895
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: somebody I spent more time with him my own wife,

896
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: basically that you know, I had a gambling addiction and

897
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: I owed all this money and so he agreed to

898
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: help me out, even though he was very upset. And

899
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: then it gets to Otani through the investigative reporting that's

900
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: being done in Otani and his people are like, wait,

901
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: what this this is not this doesn't make any sense.

902
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't have any recollection of any of this. And

903
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: then Mitsuhara, when asked by the same investigative reporters after

904
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: the facts, like, yeah, I made all that up, so

905
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe I do. And now

906
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: you're seeing other stuff being written and articles about Mitsahara's

907
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: own biography being a lie, about him exaggerating things, making

908
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: some things up, saying the graduated or attended UC Riverside

909
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: Riverside send something saying no, he was never here, Boston

910
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Red Sox saying no, he was never here even though

911
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: he had claimed he was an interpreter with that organization.

912
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of weirdness happening. I will say that

913
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: like Mitsahara facing hit piece after hit piece, that would

914
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense for the conspiracy theorist that

915
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: wants to believe that Otaani needs to be protected at

916
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: all costs here, So we need to go ahead and

917
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: throw this guy under the bus and get this moving

918
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: so that there's no credibility left in him, so that

919
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: we can move on and get show Hey back out

920
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: on the field. I don't know. I don't know what's

921
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: true and what's not. I do think that the bigger

922
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: issue about all this. First off, it not being baseball

923
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: does definitely bring down my level of vitriol towards it.

924
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know that I even care. Yes, I

925
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: think that's that's one takeaway. The other thing is it

926
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: is really getting murky when you've got sports taking so

927
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: much money from all of the gambling sites and all

928
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: of this. Everybody's got their hand in the pocket here,

929
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: everybody is all in on this thing, and then you've

930
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: got these athletes who are restricted from doing anything even

931
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: outside there. Like there's just a weirdness to all of

932
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: this that that really concerns me and bothers me. It's

933
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: like it feels almost hypocritical. I understand not betting on

934
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: your own sport, completely understand that, but like, if this

935
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: dude I'm not a gambler. I'm against it. But if

936
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: if this guy wanted to bet on F one, what

937
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: the heck does that matter? Like, what what universe does

938
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: that affect his ability to with integrity play the game

939
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: of baseball. That's even if Otani himself was responsible for

940
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: the gambling debts. But the fact that it's not baseball,

941
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: I just I don't care. I don't care at all.

942
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: I want to see Otani play baseball, and I don't

943
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: think that this is I don't think it's good for

944
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: the sport. But I also think that there's a there's

945
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: just a lot of pearl clutching that I don't like here.

946
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I think that's probably my takeaway too,

947
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: is you know, so there are certain things that I

948
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: get even if, like you know, I I under like,

949
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I get it, even if it's not ideal.

950
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: And I get why. I get two things.

951
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: I get why all these leagues, why everyone in sports,

952
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: whether it's media outlets, whether it's leagues, whether it's player whatever,

953
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: are taking money from gambling companies.

954
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: I get it, right. It's advertising, it's it's money, it's

955
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: millions of dollars. It's it's changing everything.

956
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's it's increasing values of franchise, it's

957
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: increasing TV whatever.

958
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: I get that.

959
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: I also get why leagues are so detective of making

960
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: sure that we know that the games are, that there's

961
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: integrity involved in the games.

962
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: I get that too. I guess one a couple of things.

963
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: One what is becoming increasingly confusing is like what is

964
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 2: actually allowed and what isn't?

965
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: You know?

966
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: Like like I was, like I said, I filled in

967
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: for Doug Gottlieb the other day and we were talking

968
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: about this, and it's like, okay, so like like football, right,

969
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: Like okay, so Calvin Ridley was betting on the NFL.

970
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: We know that's a no no.

971
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: But then there's like Jamison Williams who was betting on

972
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: college football, but it was at the facility.

973
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: So that's wrong. And that was my first question.

974
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: I was like, well, as long as you had bet

975
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: on baseball, like what is baseball's rules? And Baseball's rules

976
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: are as far as I understand it is, like, as

977
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: long as you're not betting on baseball, we don't really care.

978
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: And again, that's part of where it gets confusing for me,

979
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: is that you know, like in the NFL, okay, you

980
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 2: can bet but not on the NFL. Okay, that makes sense.

981
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: Well you can bet, but not at the facility. Okay,

982
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: that's a little confusing. Yeah, okay, you can bet, but

983
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 2: you can't do it on a team sponsored road trip.

984
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 2: Well that's just freaking confusing. Okay, And you can bet,

985
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: but as long as you're not wearing nikes. It just

986
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: gets more and more.

987
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: It's like we're losing ourselves in the details. Yes, I

988
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: don't understand it at all, Aaron.

989
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: No, And I think that's kind of where I am

990
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: on this Otani thing.

991
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: Is.

992
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't sound like people think that I'm

993
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: just dismissing it. But to me, I guess, to me,

994
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: the only thing I care about I'm just gonna say it.

995
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: And if this makes me sound wrong or mean or whatever,

996
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: the only thing I care about.

997
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: Are you bet on your sport? Are you bet on

998
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: your sport? Don't bet on your own sport. If you

999
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: play Major league baseball, bet on Major LEAUE baseball. Because

1000
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example.

1001
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 2: I saw an article this week that through the first

1002
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: day of the NCAA Tournament, Bjon Robinson had a perfect bracket, and.

1003
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: To me, okay, cool story. Whatever.

1004
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: But that was celebrated as, oh my god, what a

1005
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: crazy story. B Jon Robinson, perfect bracket, that's amazing. But

1006
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be outraged that show. Hey, Otani maybe

1007
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: possibly bet on international soccer.

1008
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: It's like, you know what I'm saying.

1009
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: It's like like the word do you use and I

1010
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: think it's accurate is hypocritical? I think I would hope

1011
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: that every professional athlete knows, except for Calvin Ridley apparently,

1012
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: like you can't bet.

1013
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: On your own sport.

1014
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: And that is where when Calvin Ridley got busted, I said,

1015
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: I have zero sympathy because you can't.

1016
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: Sell it to me. Of you can't sell it to me?

1017
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Of well, I mean you know if I mean if

1018
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 2: you didn't bet on his team, or if you bet

1019
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: his team to win. No, no, no, you can't bet on

1020
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 2: your sport period ever, under any circumstances. But again, where

1021
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: is the difference between Otani maybe betting on international soccer

1022
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: versus Beijon filling out a tournament bracket versus Jamison Williams

1023
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: betting on a college Like that's I guess where I'm at,

1024
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: and I know I've gone long.

1025
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna toss it back to you.

1026
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: I apologize, but my bottom line is, if you're not

1027
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: betting on your own sport, I'm.

1028
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: Just gonna have a hard time getting fired up about it.

1029
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it doesn't affect the integrity of what you're

1030
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: doing for a living. And that I agree. It's just again,

1031
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: you're getting lost in the minutia. You're getting lost in

1032
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: these details. It's like, if you are compromising the integrity

1033
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: of your own sport, if we don't believe that what

1034
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: we're watching is legitimate, then that's catastrophic, Like that can't happen.

1035
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: I completely understand protecting the integrity of your own sport,

1036
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: but if I am watching Lebron James throw down money

1037
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: on the Dodgers, I don't care. A matter of fact,

1038
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: more power to him, I you know whatever. It's just

1039
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: it's not it's that doesn't affect what he does for

1040
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: a living, and it doesn't affect how well he does

1041
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: what he does for a living, unless you want to say, well,

1042
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: he lost a lot of money, so now he's depressed. Well, okay,

1043
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: you can get depressed for any number of reasons. You

1044
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: can have a bad night for any number of reasons.

1045
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: That's not none of that holds water. You're right, the

1046
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: Ridley thing's ridiculous. Like, I don't know what he was thinking.

1047
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Actually I do know he wasn't thinking. That just wasn't smart,

1048
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: and so we got pegged for it, as he should have.

1049
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: And if he had never been allowed to play football again,

1050
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: I would have understood it, because you're trying to protect

1051
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: the integrity of the game. You're trying to protect the

1052
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: integrity of the sport. But in this case, and the

1053
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: thing about this that makes this more interesting and also

1054
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: makes it more treacherous to like, we are kind of

1055
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: defending Otani if he did something wrong here, Okay, you know,

1056
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: we'll find out about it. I just I'm not gonna

1057
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: wring my hands right now. And just oh, I'm up

1058
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: in arms at showy Otani. How could he be allowed

1059
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: to play in all this? It just it doesn't. All

1060
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: I want to see Otani do is is play baseball,

1061
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: and he's not impacting his ability to do that, even

1062
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: if he was the one and there was no interpreter.

1063
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: So I just think that this is kind of sounded

1064
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: very signifying nothing. There's not that much here. This is

1065
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: a story that's interesting because maybe you've got an interpreter

1066
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: that not only is a has a gambling addiction, but

1067
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: may also be a pathological liar. And so there's an

1068
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: interesting kind of human interest story to this guy that

1069
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: has been friends with Otani forever and maybe it's been

1070
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: misleading him. I don't know that I buy all of that.

1071
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: I really don't. I do think there is probably some

1072
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: covering going on for Otani. I just don't know that.

1073
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: I guess my opinion is that it's not even necessary,

1074
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: Like you shouldn't even have to cover for the guy,

1075
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: Like it's not that big of a deal. It's a story.

1076
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: It's a story because it feels like it should be one,

1077
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: but then when you look at it, you're like, eh, whatever, man,

1078
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to opening.

1079
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: Day really quickly.

1080
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Speaker 2: We do have an update in the final game of

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00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: the day in the NCAA tournament. It's funny, Jason I said,

1082
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: we're on till two am Eastern, so if they want

1083
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: to play all night, I'm all for it.

1084
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: Or getting Creighton. They are headed to a second overtime.

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00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: Jermaine Kusnard hits a three with about fifteen seconds to go.

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00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: You know, Creighton actually got a great look. They have

1087
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 2: a kid named Trey Alexander is gonna play in the NBA.

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00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: Kind of the mid range fallaway, which I know is

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00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: a dying shot, is kind of his shot, and he

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00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: got a good look at the buzzer.

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00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 3: It does not go. So we will go to double

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Speaker 3: overtime in the.

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Speaker 2: Second in the final excuse me, NCAA tournament Game of

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Speaker 2: the Day with Osani Jason, I think we can wrap

1095
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: because the bottom line, it sounds like you and I

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00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: are on the same page.

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Speaker 1: I think we are, yeah, like.

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00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Like and you know and and by the way, and

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Speaker 2: I think where we led is the crucial part. It's evolving.

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Speaker 2: Stuff is gonna come out. As I said, Major League

1101
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 2: Baseball has launched an investigation, and if something new comes,

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00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: I think the way you put it right there, Jason,

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00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: is the best way that I've heard it put it.

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00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 2: It is being sold to us as a big story

1105
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 2: because it feels like it should be a big story,

1106
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: biggest name in baseball, sports, gambling. It's a lot of

1107
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: money involved, obviously, millions of dollars, and obviously, look, I'm

1108
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: not gonna sit here and lie. You know, the story

1109
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: changing from you know, I was covering his debts to

1110
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: now he's stealing from me. It doesn't make it look good,

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00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: but I'll be honest until I find out Otani specifically

1112
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: was again on something that impacted the integrity of Major

1113
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: League Baseball. And by the way, he's got to be

1114
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: the worst better ever because he's a great pitcher and

1115
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: a great hitter, So it's like, you know, if he's

1116
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: throwing games, then he's doing the worst job of it ever.

1117
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: But I just sit there and say, I'm with you.

1118
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: Is that I think it feels like it should be

1119
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: bigger because sports gambling and what's going on and Otani

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00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: huge name, but when you dig into the details, there's

1121
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: just not that much there. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tors,

1122
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting Live Forthetireck dot Com Studies want to

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Speaker 2: remind you after the show, our podcast is going up.

1124
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1130
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1131
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Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll get you a final maybe in

1132
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's Oregon Creighton. The final NCAA tournament game of the

1133
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: day now in double overtime. We are tied at seventy

1134
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: one in the Midwest region. We'll recap that game, get

1135
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: you ready for Sunday, and talk about an interesting quote

1136
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 2: from a Hall of Fame. Everybody's all upset about getting

1137
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: knocked out of the tournament, not one coach. We'll explain

1138
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Speaker 2: that next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1141
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: thee tireq dot com studios. Jason, our dream of having

1142
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: like a quadruple overtime game to get to get us

1143
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: till two am Eastern. I think the dream is dead.

1144
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: Creighton is running away with this game. It's double overtime.

1145
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: If people just joining us, the final game of the

1146
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: night is in double overtime. Creighton eighty six, Oregon seventy

1147
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: one in double overtime, now seventy two, So Oregon, it

1148
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: looks like we'll be eliminated in the Midwest. How about

1149
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: you know, people are gonna get their money's worth out there.

1150
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 2: The one seed Purdue, you know, we'll see what happens

1151
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: with them. But the two seed Tennessee advance tonight, the

1152
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: three seed Creighton will advance. Oh, by the way, in

1153
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: the West, I'll be at the West Regional games on Thursday.

1154
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: The one seed North Carolina, the two seed Arizona advance.

1155
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: I'll say this, Let me ask you this. Let me

1156
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: let me ask you the cliche question. We complain when

1157
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: there are too many upsets and we get a bunch

1158
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: of Oakland's and whatever's in the round of or in

1159
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: the sweet sixteen, in the elite eight. But then the

1160
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: counter is true as well. Where As I said, you know,

1161
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: what is it? North Carolina is the only number one

1162
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: seed that played today, but they advance. A couple two

1163
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: seeds have moved on in Tennessee and Arizona, a three

1164
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: seed in Creighton. So really outside NC State, which is

1165
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: obviously an ACC school. By the way, Iowa State another

1166
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: two seed advanced as well. I just bring it up

1167
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: because outside of Kentucky screwing up everything, which was our

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: one of our show if you missed it, basically, the

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00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: seeds have long hardly held to form.

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Speaker 3: Do you like that, Jason, Or is the lack of

1171
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: big upsets disappointing to you?

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Speaker 1: It's weird because I've always argued again that what people

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00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: want is not what they think they want. What they

1174
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: really want is blue blood's laid in the tournament, because

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00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: those are the games that feel important. It feels like

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00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: you're crowned a champion when you have one seeds playing

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00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: each other ones and twos and things like that. I've

1178
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: been thinking tonight watching a tournament and this year in general,

1179
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: even though certainly had a little bit of a distraction

1180
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: with things that are happening in the family, but a

1181
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: good distraction. But I think the question needs to be asked.

1182
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: I think it's subjective because I think different people are

1183
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: going to have different answers to it. What is the

1184
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: best part of the NCAA tournament and what is the

1185
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: part that's most indispensable, And what's the part that's most memorable.

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00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: Is it who wins it in the end or how

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00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: chaotic the first week? Is? What is it that drives

1188
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament? Why do we watch this thing? Intros?

1189
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: Is what is it about March that makes it special?

1190
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: Is it the final four or is it the madness

1191
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: of the early part. I think you can make arguments

1192
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Speaker 1: for both. I think for the rest of this tournament.

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00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: For a lot of the seats to have held and

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00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: for us to have some big time matchups to look

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00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: forward to, means we're going to have a better Sweet

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Speaker 1: sixteen and Elite Eight when it just comes to watching

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Speaker 1: what we think are the best teams in the country.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there is something to be said

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Speaker 1: for having somebody that is compelling that you just weren't expecting,

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Speaker 1: especially when it turns out to be a Florida Atlantic

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: or a Florida Gulf Coast knocking off a Georgetown outto

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00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: Porter team years ago, or you know, one of those

1203
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of schools. Somehow George Mason makes this to the

1204
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: Final four that year and like those stories, like them

1205
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: or not, I think for the casual fan that drives

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00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: them more than the blue blood. So I think it

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Speaker 1: just depends on what you're trying to get out of

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Speaker 1: the tournament. For what I want out of the tournament,

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Speaker 1: I love to get the upsets, but I don't like

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: what the upsets then lead to. I don't want to

1211
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: see Elite eight games with guys I just don't know sure,

1212
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: even though it can become compelling and they can be

1213
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: great games and they deserve their opportunities because the way

1214
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Speaker 1: that the tournament is set up, it may sound elitist,

1215
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: but that's just what I want. I want to see

1216
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: the big schools play. But at the same time, I

1217
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: get super excited when I see an upset in the

1218
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: first week, so I think that might be what it is.

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00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: There's this like weird feeling of in the moment, I

1220
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: still want the upset, and then I don't want want

1221
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: what the upset leads to. So that's why I've always

1222
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that the best result for the

1223
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: tournament is the little guy to come so close ninety

1224
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: five percent of the time and then somehow get beat

1225
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: at the end by the big dog. But about five

1226
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: percent of the time, you need the chaos. You do

1227
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: need some of these schools that you don't see coming

1228
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: going a little bit deeper, but you don't need too

1229
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: many of them, and that I think is the crucial factor.

1230
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Speaker 1: You can sustain some upsets, but you've got to have

1231
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: some teams that you feel like are worthy of a

1232
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: championship level run so that you always feel like the

1233
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: sport is crowning the best team it can And because

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01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: of the way this tournament is and because it's one

1235
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Speaker 1: and done. I think the one critique you can make

1236
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Speaker 1: of college basketball and the way that they determine their

1237
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: champion is usually because it's one and done. It's not

1238
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: the best team that wins year after year. It's the

1239
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: team that goes on the best run at the right time,

1240
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: runs into the right matchups, has the right draw all

1241
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: of that kind of thing. And I think that you

1242
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: can get a feeling of randomness to it more so

1243
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: than in other sports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way I think that I tend

1245
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: to agree with you is I think in theory, we

1246
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: think that we like up says, and we do like

1247
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: that's what makes the tournament great. But I'll say this

1248
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: is even from you know, my perspective. You know, listen,

1249
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: it's been well documented. I know I say it a

1250
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: lot this time of year. So I apologize for people

1251
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: who get annoyed for just me saying it.

1252
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 3: Is that.

1253
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: Basically, like, you know, I probably watch more college basketball

1254
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: than a lot of people. Let's just put it that way. Whatever,

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Speaker 2: And even I will admit, like I didn't watch Florida

1256
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: Atlantic last year.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch you know, I did watch dian Diego

1258
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: State because they're a West Coast team, they've been good,

1259
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 3: but like, I don't know who's on Florida Atlantic.

1260
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Speaker 2: I had never heard of Jack Golki before Thursday night,

1261
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: and so the upsets certainly make the tournament.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I am somebody that if

1264
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: it sounds elitist, I don't know, uh, but I just

1265
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: bring it up because like, if it sounds elitist, that's

1266
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: fine by me. But I like when all the good

1267
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: teams have van it's because it's the teams that we've

1268
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: been watching. It's the best teams all year. Frankly, it's

1269
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: the teams with the most upside. So, like I just

1270
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Speaker 2: looked it up right now while you were talking there, Jason,

1271
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: of the eight teams that advanced today, one number one

1272
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: seed North Carolina, three number two seeds Tennessee, Tennessee, Iowa

1273
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: State and Arizona, two number three seeds Creighton, and also

1274
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: whatever doesn't even matter, a five seed which was Gonzaga,

1275
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: and an eleven seed NC State. So basically we have

1276
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: all top seeds, all Power Conference teams except Gonzaga, which

1277
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: of course is an entity unto itself. So you know,

1278
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: I'll say this is I do tend to lean more

1279
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: towards what you think, and it sounds hypocritical because the

1280
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: upsets are what make the tournament great and it's what

1281
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: everybody remembers.

1282
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 3: And let's be honest.

1283
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: You know, NC State fans will remember an NC State

1284
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: run ten years from now, but you would remember the

1285
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: upset if it was You would remember the eleven seed

1286
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: if it was Ducaine, probably much.

1287
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: More than you would if it was NC State.

1288
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: But I think it's good for the tournament because I

1289
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: do think ultimately, at the end of the day, like

1290
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: you said, your brackets get busted. Everybody's brackets get busted,

1291
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: and by the second weekend, if you're gonna tune in,

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Speaker 2: you want to tune in to see teams and.

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Speaker 3: Brands that you know. Now we'll see Perdue plays tomorrow,

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01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: Yukon plays tomorrow, Marquette plays tomorrow, Houston plays tomorrow, Duke

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Speaker 3: plays tomorrow. So there could still.

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Speaker 2: Be chaos and anarchy in that in the other on

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Speaker 2: the Sunday version of things. But today it was North

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Speaker 2: Carolina's a favorite.

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Speaker 3: They won. Gonzaga was the lower seed, but they were

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Speaker 3: the favorite.

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Speaker 1: They won.

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01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: Tennessee was the favorite, they won, Iowa State was the favorite.

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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: They won.

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Speaker 2: So if you think you like upsets but you actually

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Speaker 2: like watching the high profile teams, you got your wish today, Jason.

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Speaker 1: I mean generally speaking, I just I want. I want

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01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: to have my cake and eat it too, And that's

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Speaker 1: just not how it works. Like I want all the upsets,

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01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: but then I want the teams that got upset to

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01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: still have not Like I want to see you Conn

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Speaker 1: in Houston. Assume me I want to see Tennessee in Connecticut.

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01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: Like I want to see some of these matchups, especially

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Speaker 1: when you get to this point in time when they

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Speaker 1: mean so much more than they would in December in

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Speaker 1: Maui or wherever it is that you're going to see

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Speaker 1: it early in the season. I want those matchups. But

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Speaker 1: even I have to admit that if the first couple

1318
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: rounds is just a bunch of chalk, yeah, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of boring. Like I kind of want both. So here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. I know what I want, and I know

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Speaker 1: what I think I want, and I'm glad that sports

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01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 1: is not under my control sure, and so there's randomness here,

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01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: and so I get a little bit of what I

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01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: want usually and a little bit of what I don't want.

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Speaker 1: And then that makes up the best, Like nobody is

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01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: right all the time, and so the balance of the

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01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: Cinderella or two and then still having some big time

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01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: brands to watch that we're outstanding all year in the

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Speaker 1: regular season that I think makes for the best tournament.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the first like three days of

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: this tournament have been like Marquee level the best that

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01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. There's been a lot of games that

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01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: you can tune out of with ten minutes left because

1334
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: they're basically over, and you do have a lot of

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01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: chalk happening. But I've still been compelled by the basketball.

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01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: It's still an event that just has your attention. You're

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01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: flipping between four channels to watch all the stuff that

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: you can, and I think you just have to accept

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01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: the tournament for what it is and hope that you

1340
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: get a couple of matchups that are really juicy in

1341
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: that second weekend. Yeah, even though there have been the

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01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: Marquee upsets, I would still I've been entertained.

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: I've for sure it's been good.

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: It just hasn't been like one of the best I've

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01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: ever seen or anything.

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: No, And you know, there were still some interesting results.

1347
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: You know, yesterday I was fortunate enough just being able

1348
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: to sit on the couch that James Madison Wisconsing game

1349
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: was fun. The Lord of Colorado was obviously entertaining, wildly

1350
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: entertaining game. The Auburniale game, which was probably outside of

1351
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: Canucky the biggest upset. So yeah, it's been an interesting tournament,

1352
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: by the way. One other note here the Big East.

1353
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: You know you and I have not spoken since the

1354
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: selection show last Sunday, Big East listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Big East.

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01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: Lump, so maybe I'm a homer, but getting three teams

1357
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: to me felt absolutely ridiculous. Well, the Big East as

1358
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: we currently speak, four and oh, four double digit wins.

1359
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: Granted one of them was in double overtime for Creighton.

1360
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: Still think the committee got that element of things wrong.

1361
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: But with Creighton advancing, the Big East now four and

1362
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: oh with four double figure wings. Fox Sports Radio ra

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01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: Tords Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot com studios.

1364
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: Jason want to come back and do want to talk

1365
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: about an interesting development for a power conference that's trying

1366
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 2: to get more power, but they might have gotten what's

1367
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: coming to them. I'll explain that next we'd tease I know,

1368
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: but we'll explain in a moment before we do, though.

1369
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 3: Tossing over the news desk, Dave de Seger, the floor

1370
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Speaker 3: is yours, my friend.

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Speaker 8: We still have a chance at a North Carolina Arizona

1372
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 8: West Regional final at the Lakers are in.

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01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: An HB there, We'll be there.

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01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 8: I will be here next week.

1375
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: Come on to Saga. I would love to be there.

1376
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: I saw you at the pond that one time. I

1377
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 3: forget who was playing that year.

1378
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Speaker 8: It was Texas Tech going to the final four. Oky

1379
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 8: Gonzaga was in that regional Florida today Michigan.

1380
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1381
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 8: And for those who know of the nineteen eighty three

1382
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 8: memorable final in college hoops, we still have a chance

1383
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 8: of Houston against NC State Region final next weekend in Dallas.

1384
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 8: Apparently tonight we have at Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania had the first

1385
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 8: tournament site with two overtime games in the same day

1386
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 8: since nineteen ninety seven. Creighton won in double overtime against Oregon,

1387
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 8: NC State in overtime beat Oakland. More college hoops details

1388
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 8: in a moment. First off the programming note that NASCAR's

1389
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 8: next Cup Series race is Sunday on Fox TV from Austin,

1390
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 8: Texas three thirty pm Eastern Time. Kyle Larson won today's

1391
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 8: Exfinity race, and an update from Formula One on tonight

1392
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 8: as the Australian Grand Prix is underway. Max Verstappen is

1393
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 8: not going to win a tenth straight race. Car was smoking.

1394
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 8: He's out. He's had to retire on Lap five. College hoops,

1395
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 8: Michigan's new basketball coach will be Dusty May from Florida Atlantic.

1396
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 8: The NC State win in overtime was against Oakland seventy

1397
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Speaker 8: nine seventy three. NC State last week. Remember won five

1398
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 8: games in five days in the ACC Tournament just to

1399
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 8: get here. The late game just finished, yes, close to

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01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 8: twelve thirty am Eastern Time in Pittsburgh. It just finished

1401
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 8: in double overtime. Three seed Creyton advances over Oregon eighty

1402
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 8: six to seventy three. WINNSDA night for Illinois and Iowa.

1403
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 8: State victories for Tennessee and Gonzaga, which beat Kansas eighty

1404
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,440
Speaker 8: nine sixty eight wins today for North Carolina and Arizona,

1405
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 8: the top two seeds in the West Region. Arizona beat

1406
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,440
Speaker 8: Dayton seventy eight to sixty eight. Arizona led by seventeen

1407
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 8: in the first step and eventually put him away. In

1408
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 8: the women's first round victories for one seed Iowa and

1409
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 8: one seed usc Connecticut and Tennessee with wins. Tennessee has

1410
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 8: appeared in all forty two NCAA women's tournaments. By the way,

1411
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 8: and we do have an update on that South Dakota

1412
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 8: State women's first rounder tonight, they scored three points in

1413
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 8: the first quarter, down twenty to three after the first period,

1414
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 8: lost to Utah sixty eight fifty four between They actually outscored.

1415
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: Utah the rest of the night.

1416
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 8: For what it's worth, the jack Rabbits of South Dakota

1417
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 8: State finished with sixteen baskets and nineteen turnovers. Late night

1418
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 8: first round wins for UCLA and Gonzaga to the NBA.

1419
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 8: The late game has just ended Denver wins at Portland

1420
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 8: one fourteen, one eleven, even though Nicola Jokic and Jamal

1421
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 8: Murray sat out with injuries. The Denver Nuggets record is

1422
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 8: fifty and twenty one. Portland, meantime, has lost six games

1423
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 8: in a row Blazers with a record of nineteen and

1424
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 8: fifty two. Washington sent Toronto to a tenth straight loss

1425
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 8: one twelve to one oh nine Phoenix a winner at

1426
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 8: San Antonio one thirty one to one oh six. Spurs

1427
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 8: record fifteen and fifty six. Devin Booker with thirty two

1428
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 8: points nine assists for the Suns thirty two points in

1429
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 8: thirty one minutes of this blowout. Bradley Beale had twelve assists.

1430
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 8: The Sun shot sixty percent from the floor. Victories for

1431
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 8: New York and Atlanta. Sacramento won at Orlando one oh

1432
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 8: nine one oh seven. Orlando had won five in a row,

1433
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 8: but Dearon Fox had thirty one points Malik Monk all

1434
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 8: of eleven shooting from the floor, and they still won.

1435
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 8: Kings guard Kevin Herder out with the dislocated shoulder. Houston

1436
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 8: won its eighth straight game. Boston won its ninth in

1437
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 8: a row in the NHL. One of the late games

1438
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 8: is in LA. The King's now up three to one

1439
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 8: mid third period against Tampa Bay. Nashville won nothing over Detroit.

1440
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 8: Seventeen game points streak for Nashville. Now, the Philadelphia Eagles

1441
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 8: signed quarterback Will Greer and longtime Orioles owner Peter Angelos

1442
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 8: died at the age of ninety four. The team, by

1443
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 8: the ways in the process of being sold back to you.

1444
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve the Seger Fox Sports Radio,

1445
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday Air toward j Smartin broadcasting live from

1446
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: the direck dot Com studios. I'll tell you what Jason

1447
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: will save what I was gonna talk about for hour

1448
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: three because I want to kind of dive a little

1449
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: bit deeper into it. Do just very quickly, want to

1450
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: get your thoughts on a comment by Bill self.

1451
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 3: Now we have the whole sound.

1452
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make you play it Shay in the

1453
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: back there, but Bill self after the game today, so

1454
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: Kansas loses to Gonzaga, and Bill Self was asked about,

1455
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, next season, well above this and that, and

1456
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: he was asked about he says, I think for the

1457
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: last month I've been thinking about next season.

1458
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 3: To be honest, not in moments during the game.

1459
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: Obviously we played, but we had eight guys on scholarship

1460
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: and we play. I mean, they're healthy. Late injuries are

1461
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: part of the game. That's basically what he was saying

1462
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: was we had six scholarship players. We limped to the

1463
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: finish line. We weren't good this year. Our best player

1464
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: was out for the tournament. I was kind of sort

1465
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: of already trying to figure out what's going on for

1466
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: next year. Did you have any fundamental problem with Bill

1467
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 2: Self essentially acknowledging that he has already turned his attention

1468
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five season.

1469
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: It's not what you want to hear if you're a

1470
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: Kansas fan or somebody that's invested in that program. It's

1471
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: also both believable and candid, and I'm torn because it's

1472
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: not what a coach is supposed to say, but he's right.

1473
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Kansas wasn't going anywhere. Kansas has been brutalized

1474
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: with injuries and was falling apart. Even when they were

1475
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: still fully healthy, they were still they were starting to

1476
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: kind of trend downward in the last month and a

1477
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: half or so of the season. He even said, you

1478
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: know that the end of the first half, my team

1479
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: was guessed like we had nothing left, and you saw

1480
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: it in the second half there. I think Self is

1481
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: just he's looking to the future because he knew this team,

1482
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: this team's ceiling had been reached. This wasn't going to

1483
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: be their year. And he's been around long enough to

1484
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: know if a team's got a shot and it doesn't. Now,

1485
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to be fatalistic and just assume that

1486
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: it's over and not tried. But I don't think he's

1487
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: indicating that. I think he's saying he didn't feel like

1488
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the year, didn't mean that he

1489
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: coached them out of it. So I can see both

1490
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: sides of it. You don't want your coach to say this,

1491
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: but I don't fundamentally have the worst issue with it,

1492
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: just because I understand from a human psyche perspective, what

1493
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: Self is going through makes a lot of sense considering

1494
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: the scenario his team was in.

1495
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a worst case scenario for them.

1496
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1497
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: Kevin McCuller, their leading scorer, basically was ruled out for

1498
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: the tournament by Bill Self, which he kind of made

1499
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: some interesting comments that kind of sort of indicated that

1500
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: he thought maybe the kid, the way he made it

1501
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: sound didn't make the kid look good, let me put

1502
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: it that way. But bottom line doesn't change the fact that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have no fundamental issue with it. This guy that

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01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 2: won a championship two years ago. Last year, if you remember,

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01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: he had major health issues that kept him out of

1506
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. I think he appreciates coaching. I think

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01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: he appreciates his team, and I think even Kansas fans

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01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: knew this. This wasn't the year uh and I don't

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Speaker 2: really have any fundamental issue with it. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: ertors Jason martinbroadcasting live from the tirek dot com Studios,

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Speaker 2: will come back to Saga with his extended update.

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Speaker 3: That's next, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: As we do every week around this time, let's toss

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Speaker 2: it over the news desk Steve Desaga with all the

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: stuff that we missed throughout the day to Saga.

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Speaker 3: The floor is yours.

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Speaker 8: A lot of fans complaining about not getting into the

1525
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 8: Purdue game which was in Indianapolis yesterday perdue play in Indiana,

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 8: but the game before it went long and those were

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01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 8: separate tickets, it was a separate session, so I think

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01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 8: it was a Florida game right before them went very long.

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01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeh, that's right.

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Speaker 8: There were some fans literally waiting an hour outside and

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 8: did not make it for tip inside. Even the Purdue

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01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 8: coach had mentioned it that we had an empty place

1533
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 8: here when our game started too bad. Our fans couldn't

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01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 8: be here. Things like that. But again the reason is,

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01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 8: I'm not excusing it, but the reason is those games

1536
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 8: that were back to back were happened to be two

1537
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 8: separate sessions, two separate tickets, two separate bases of fans

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 8: in the arena, so they had to wait for the

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 8: first set of fans to clear out, ye and then

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01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 8: the Purdue and all the other fans for the evening

1541
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 8: session to get in.

1542
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: Not criticizing our buddy Matt Painter, but he has been

1543
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: whining an awful lot late.

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01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: To the list.

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 8: Absolutely speaking of coaches, if you haven't heard, Michigan's new

1546
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 8: basketball coach will be the guy that took Florida Atlantic

1547
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 8: to the final four year ago, Dusty May. Meanwhile, we

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 8: had in the same session in Pittsburgh tonight and overtime

1549
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 8: game and then a double overtime game that won OT

1550
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 8: game was won by seed number one one NC State

1551
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 8: and eleven seed is advancing over Oakland seventy nine seventy

1552
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 8: three in overtime. AP points out. There was a team

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01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 8: in tournament history that also won five games in their

1554
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 8: conference tournament and then went undefeated in the NCAA.

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01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: I think that might be the twenty eleven Yukon Hustle.

1556
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 8: Went all the way to the title in twenty eleven,

1557
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 8: and I was at the Sweet sixteen game that year

1558
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 8: when Kemba Walker and Yukon beat Kawhi Leonard and San

1559
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 8: Diego State and Walker scored thirty six and then they

1560
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 8: won a close game against Arizona in the West Final,

1561
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 8: at a close game against Kentucky at the Final four,

1562
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 8: and then one of the worst finals we'll ever see,

1563
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 8: which was a Butler Oh.

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01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: That was unwatchable that you got your money's worth because

1565
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving played in the other duke Yes for Duke

1566
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:55,440
Speaker 2: Derrek Williams.

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Speaker 8: I remember when San Diego State, which that was to

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01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 8: that point their best season ever and one of the

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Speaker 8: great seasons of any college sports team in San Diego,

1570
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 8: California history. It was so disappointing for them all. And

1571
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 8: the game was in southern California. They had their crazy

1572
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 8: fans there, the band, everything, and they did not win

1573
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 8: against Yukon. And as soon as the final horn sounded,

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01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 8: one of their players was walking straight off the court

1575
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 8: and Marshall Folk ex running back San Diego State, standing

1576
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 8: at the corner of the court and stops the basketball

1577
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 8: player and says, turn around and go shake their hands.

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 3: Wow, very nice.

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: I've not heard that story, Marshall, very very impressive.

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Speaker 8: Well, we'll move on at Iowa State and Illinois wound

1581
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 8: up winners Thursday in Boston. They will face each other

1582
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 8: in the Sweet sixteen. Iowa State tonight started three of

1583
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 8: seventeen shooting from the floor, and yet their game was

1584
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 8: tied at halftime, and they beat Washington State sixty seven

1585
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 8: fifty six. Wazoo from three point range five for twenty

1586
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 8: three Three seed Illinois dominated Ducane. In fact, the lead

1587
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 8: in the first half was thirty six thirteen, So Ducane's

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01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 8: coach Keith Dambrot is retiring. Their tournament is over eighty

1589
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 8: nine to sixty three. The final Terrence Shannon of the

1590
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 8: Aliini thirty points. Illinois shot fifty nine percent from the floor,

1591
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 8: and the guy who had a triple double last game,

1592
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 8: Marcus Domask has twenty two points tonight. That triple double,

1593
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 8: by the way, in the first round the first in

1594
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 8: a tournament game in five years since John Morant. But

1595
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 8: congrats to Dukane, which was a sixth place team regular season.

1596
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 8: It won the Atlantic Ten Tournament, clinching its first NCAAA

1597
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 8: bid since nineteen seventy seven. The Dukes in the first

1598
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 8: round got their first NCAA win since nineteen sixty nine.

1599
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 8: Creighton in double overtime tonight won a game against Oregon

1600
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 8: that ended close to twelve thirty a m. Eastern time.

1601
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 8: The Ducks in the first round shot sixty percent from

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01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 8: the floor against South Carolina, and a former South Carolina

1603
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 8: player was the Oregon star that day. Tremaine Kuznard had

1604
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 8: forty points. He kept shooting. Tonight, he had thirty two points. Unfortunately,

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01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 8: he really call lost them a late possession in double

1606
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 8: overtime with a quick three and then Crayton was able

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01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 8: to start running clock. After that, Kuznard finished thirteen of

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01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 8: thirty three from the floor. Notable that well, ay, this

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01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 8: is a Creighton team that has experienced loved the fact

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01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 8: that they had the center and some guys around. They

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01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 8: made a regional final a year ago, lost by only

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01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 8: one point. But this matchup Oregon's Dana Altman, a Nebraska native,

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01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 8: not only the Oregon coach, he was the Creighton coach

1614
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 8: for sixteen years. And tonight you had Tennessee beat Texas.

1615
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 8: Rick Barnes of the Balls coach Texas for seventeen years.

1616
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 8: In the Sweet sixteen, it'll be Tennessee against Creighton. The

1617
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 8: Texas Longhorns are out. They committed seventeen turnovers. I consider

1618
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 8: this a good sign for two seed Tennessee. They won

1619
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 8: the game sixty two fifty eight over Texas, even though

1620
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 8: the balls from three point range we three for twenty five.

1621
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 8: But like Houston, they played very good defense. It traveled.

1622
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,839
Speaker 8: Thank you very much, Steve de Seger. We got ourselves

1623
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 8: a jampacked final hour. College hoops wall to wall will

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 8: come back.

1625
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Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about John Calipery, highest

1626
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: rated opening weekend of the NCAA tournament ever, and much

1627
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: much much more errators and Jason Martin. We have so

1628
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: much to discuss. One hour left again, a lot of

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01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: college hoops. It's coming up, This says Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: am Eastern. Jason Martin and I taking it till two

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Speaker 2: am Eastern and j Mark, I think we're gonna talk

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01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: mostly college hoops. You know, it isn't that often that

1644
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 2: we get to do all college hoops. But I think listen,

1645
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 2: you know, NFL drafts coming up. NBA playoffs will be

1646
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: right behind it. But it feels like right now, Jason,

1647
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: the story in sports is the NCAA tournament. As the

1648
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: sayer just told us, half of the Sweet sixteen is set.

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: I want to get back to the lee topic of

1651
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 2: the weekend of John cal Perry. But so far outside

1652
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 2: of Kentucky, which we'll obviously get to. Is there anything

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01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: that has stood out to you about this tournament? Is

1654
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: there anything just anything in general? Just as we again

1655
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: we now have the sweet sixteen set, it is largely

1656
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: the higher seeds. Three number two seeds advanced today. The

1657
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 2: only number one seed that played in the second round advanced.

1658
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 2: Anything stand out to you so far in this tournament chase?

1659
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean, not like tremendously. I feel like most of

1660
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: the teams that we anticipated still being in the tournament

1661
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: are some have looked better than others, But my championship game,

1662
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: those two teams look pretty dominant. You count of Houston

1663
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: looked strong, and I think coming into the tournament, they're

1664
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: the ones that most of us felt the best about.

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01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: I think they still are. The story of the tournament's Kentucky, right,

1666
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the col story that we did most of

1667
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: the first hour on. That's the story of the tournament.

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01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: Second biggest deal is probably Auburn, and because they're both

1669
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: coming from the same conference, I think the SEC and

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01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: Greg Zanke is also kind of looming here as kind

1671
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: of a storyline to follow. But generally, so far, the

1672
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: story is there's not much of a story. Most of

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01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: the teams that you anticipated if things went without too

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01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: much madness, that's what you're going to get. The teams

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01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: that had shot at a one, even if they ended

1676
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: up on the two line, most of them are still

1677
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 1: in this tournament. So you got a lot of heavy hitters.

1678
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Although maybe Sunday is going to provide the chaos that

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01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: we haven't had thus far.

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01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, you know you mentioned Greg SANKI

1681
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 2: mentioned the SEC. Let's just dive into that really quick

1682
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: for people who maybe don't follow this stuff on a

1683
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: day to day, week to week basis. Greg Sankee is

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01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: the commissioner of the SEC, and you know, he has

1685
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: been very vocal about the concept of change with the

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01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, and you know, he's being very careful and

1687
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: diplomatic in how he says it and what he says

1688
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: in all of that, but basically every time he gets

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01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: a mic in front of him. And by the way,

1690
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: this is one of the guys that really has reshaped

1691
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: the college football playoff that is essentially basically going to

1692
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: fourteen teams here in just a couple of years before

1693
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: we even got to twelve. But Greg Sankie has been

1694
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: very basically, when he's in front of a camera, what

1695
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: he keeps saying is essentially this is that we need

1696
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: to look at the NCAA tournament. Now, he has not

1697
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 2: said anything specific, but his insinuation is just because it's

1698
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: been at sixty eight doesn't mean we have to stay there.

1699
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 2: And so because of it, Jason, it's become a very

1700
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: interesting conversation because it appears as though he is one

1701
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: of the people that is very much publicly pushing to

1702
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: expand the NCAA tournament.

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01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 3: Now, we all love the NCAA tournament.

1704
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun, this and that, but we

1705
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: also know that when the commissioner of the SEC is

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01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: pushing for expansion of the NCAA tournament, it isn't because

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 2: he wants to see the small schools the Saint Peter's,

1708
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: the Oaklands get in as at larges or or it's

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: not to get the small schools in. It's essentially to

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01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: get more power conference teams in, to get more money

1711
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: for power conferences that are already running the sport. And

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01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: what I would say to that is, if there was

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Speaker 2: a scenario where really good power conference teams were being

1714
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: left out of this tournament, then I would say, Okay,

1715
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 2: maybe it's a conversation to be had, but the bottom

1716
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: line is it's simply not the case. Great teams that

1717
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: are good enough to win the championship or not be

1718
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: left out. Now, if you want to pick a gripe

1719
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: over one or two teams, should Saint John's have made

1720
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 2: it instead of that team, Should See and Hall have

1721
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: made it? Okay, whatever, But at the same time, great

1722
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 2: teams are not being left out. And the irony, of

1723
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: course is that to your point, the SEC has largely

1724
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: been disappointing. Three and five in the opening round of

1725
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament. The two biggest upsets were Oakland over

1726
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: Kentucky and obviously on top of that, Auburn losing to Yale,

1727
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 2: which you just mentioned. And listen, I don't think we

1728
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: should expand the tournament. I don't think Greg Saki cares

1729
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: about what I think. But I also do think it

1730
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: is a little bit of karma for that guy in

1731
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: that league who is so obviously pushing to get more

1732
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 2: teams in so that his league can make more money,

1733
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: that his league has struggled as they have so far

1734
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: this year.

1735
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's true. I think that

1736
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: now because of that, Again, you're not talking about this

1737
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: if the SEC is undefeated and they have a bunch

1738
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: of teams still playing. Now they do have a couple

1739
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: of teams still playing. But you lose an Auburn, you

1740
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: lose a Kentucky, you see Mississippi State get beat in

1741
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: the first game of the tournament. So it becomes a

1742
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: storyline because you're going to have a lot more written

1743
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: by most sports writers when you're going after the little guy,

1744
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: and in this case, you've got the ultimate kind of

1745
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: blue blood conference guy in Greg Sankie, who for a

1746
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: lot of years many people have said a lot of

1747
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: good things about. I've met him. Nice man. He's wielding power,

1748
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: he's wielding leverage. And I think that the Emperor is

1749
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: now being revealed a little bit as to more of

1750
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 1: what he is trying to do and what he's not like,

1751
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: is he looking out for college sports? Is he looking

1752
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: out for his conference? He's looking out for his conference.

1753
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: He's looking out he's looking out for the halves. He's

1754
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: not really looking out for the half nots. And because

1755
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: of the way the tournament has played out, that kind

1756
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: of explodes the situation to your other point about the

1757
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: expanding of the tournament. My goodness. You know, I know

1758
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 1: there were some people on our airwaves this week talking

1759
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: about out snubs being good for the tournament and things

1760
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: like this. I don't want to necessarily object to that,

1761
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 1: because sure it is, like that's a good conversation and

1762
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: all this, But if you can't get into a field

1763
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: of sixty eight, I just don't have five minutes a

1764
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: time to talk about you not making the tournament. There's

1765
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: just too many teams that make it. I was saying,

1766
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: I was walking my dog earlier today and I was

1767
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Would the tournament be better or would

1768
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: it feel more deserving for the champion if it was

1769
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,440
Speaker 1: cut in half and became double elimination?

1770
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: Huh?

1771
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: So that great teams had another opportunity, and so you

1772
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: actually got to see. I know you don't have time

1773
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: to do four of seven and all this, but if

1774
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: you took half the teams away and made it a

1775
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: double elimination tournament, would it feel like a champion was

1776
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: crowned in a more deserving and maybe less chaotic fashion.

1777
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a better television product. I

1778
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: just thought it was an interesting It was just an

1779
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: interesting thing. That ran through my mind. That just kind

1780
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere.

1781
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: That is a very interesting idea, and I think it

1782
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 2: still keeps an interest because there's a loser's bracket, so

1783
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 2: you still you'd still be watching. It's almost like an

1784
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 2: expanded college World Series baseball tournament.

1785
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,839
Speaker 3: So that's really interesting.

1786
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: I mean, do you want me to I don't know

1787
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: that I have like a strong take on that at

1788
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: at this exact moment, but I do have a strong

1789
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: take like I do think that some sort of expansion

1790
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: is probably coming. I don't think that it's good for

1791
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: the overall, you know, health of the tournament. And by

1792
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 2: the way, yeah, I don't know. I just you your, your,

1793
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 2: your your idea has like my head spinning here in

1794
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: real time here at uh one oh nine Eastern time.

1795
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 3: It's just uh, I hadn't really considered that.

1796
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: But I think the only point that I would that

1797
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 2: I would make is that I do think it's a

1798
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: little bit of karma. And you know what's funny, Jason,

1799
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody like I haven't heard anybody in

1800
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 2: the media, and I actually I'll do this is I

1801
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: can be critical of the media at times.

1802
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 3: I give the media.

1803
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 2: Credit because this feels like the first week where people

1804
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: are not afraid to call out the hypocrisy of it all.

1805
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: I saw Chris Fanini from The Athletic.

1806
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: Row he came after Sanki in that article.

1807
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: Yes, he just put out the article the tea's on Twitter.

1808
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: Here you go.

1809
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: The headline of the article, the SEC's first round stumbles

1810
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: make Greg Sankie's grand plans seem foolish. I also saw

1811
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Nicole Hourback from The Athletic tweeting some stuff last night.

1812
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if she wrote anything. I'll give the

1813
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: media credit right because I think there are times where

1814
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: they are afraid to stand up to power, afraid to

1815
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: criticize the source.

1816
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 3: What is the argument that you and I always make

1817
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 3: about the NBA.

1818
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for you, but I think

1819
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that don't really cover the

1820
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: NBA and aren't objective about it and don't cover it

1821
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: fairly because they're afraid that if I say too much

1822
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 2: about this guy or that guy, or this girl or

1823
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: that girl or this player who's represented by this agent,

1824
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 2: I won't get the access that I want. I give

1825
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 2: credit to the media because it feels like the last

1826
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 2: two or three days, the combination of I know we've

1827
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 2: talked about a lot of the higher seeds advancing, but

1828
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 2: the James Madison's, the Oaklands, the teams like that having

1829
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: success with the SEC struggling. It does feel like a

1830
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: lot of people have come out against what is obviously

1831
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 2: very public pandering to get expansion of this playoff.

1832
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine more teams being necessary here now.

1833
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: I just Okay, you're gonna have more teams. And again,

1834
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: I think that what Venini says in his article is

1835
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: really legitimate. Do we really care about a nine and

1836
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: eleven big time conference team that misses the tournament? Nope? Like,

1837
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if NC State had not made it. Look,

1838
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: I went to school there, right, I went there for

1839
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Interesting, you had your twenty eleven

1840
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: Yukon team that went all away and the only other

1841
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: team that has done this five in a row deal

1842
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: that NC State just pulled off and I went there.

1843
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: So but if they hadn't made the tournament, I mean,

1844
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: are we going to be that upset about it? No?

1845
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 1: That just to me, it's just watering it down even further.

1846
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: We have made the argument, we've talked about in the

1847
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: past that the problem for college basketball is that it

1848
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 1: is a one month sport. It is a March sport,

1849
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: it is a postseason, and that's it. And I think

1850
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of nuance here that we can get into.

1851
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: But one part of it is I tried to argue

1852
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: for a long time in my own head, man, you

1853
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: can't make me care about a baseball game, because there's

1854
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two of them, so any individual

1855
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: one's not going to mean that much. But I think

1856
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: I got that wrong, especially over the last few years

1857
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: as I've really reinvested time and fallen back in love

1858
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: with baseball the way I kind of was as a kid,

1859
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: and it is that when you get to the end

1860
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: of the season and you're still having to like determine

1861
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: in one game who is going to make it, it's important.

1862
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: But the reason why is because the whole league doesn't

1863
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: get in. I wouldn't care nearly as much if it

1864
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: were half of each half of the National League and

1865
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: half of the American League getting into the playoffs. It's

1866
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: that it's still hard and still feels very exclusive to

1867
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: make the tournament. If you expand the NCAA tournament anymore.

1868
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: Then if you don't make it, it's going to be

1869
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: more of a statement about how did you miss it?

1870
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: Then how did you make it? And I don't think

1871
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,520
Speaker 1: that that should ever be the goal of a postseason.

1872
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: It should always feel like a massive accomplishment. And the

1873
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: only people that it will feel an accomplishment for are

1874
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 1: the little guys that are trying to be squeezed out

1875
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 1: in this whole thing with sanchie like with everything that

1876
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. This is supposed to benefit the

1877
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: big conferences. We know that behind the scenes that's what

1878
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: they want, but that doesn't accomplish anything like that makes

1879
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: it less exclusive and less important in an easier road

1880
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: for mediocre big conference schools, and that's exactly the opposite

1881
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: of what you need. You want the blue bloods from

1882
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: all the big conferences. But outside of that, yes, you

1883
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: do want those storylines. You want those teams that bust

1884
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 1: in conferences that you didn't pay attention to all year

1885
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 1: getting a shot on an equal playing field against the

1886
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: big dogs.

1887
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: It's an interesting conversation. I hate to say it. I

1888
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: do think expansion is coming for of course, yeah, for

1889
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,839
Speaker 2: people who don't follow it. I think it would probably

1890
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 2: be another game or two on that Tuesday Wednesday, I hope.

1891
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be sixteen seeds though right like it's

1892
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna be those little schools having to play in this cabell. Well,

1893
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: this is not really even the tournament like that. That

1894
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: doesn't help anybody, No.

1895
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 2: I know best what I saw today from Frankfurscilla, who

1896
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 2: does a great job for ESPN. This is what he

1897
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 2: put out, and I can't really fight it because I

1898
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,520
Speaker 2: don't think he's speaking from a place where he wants expansion.

1899
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 2: I think he's saying it's inevitable, and so let's find

1900
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 2: a compromise. He said, here's the plan, seventy two teams

1901
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 2: in the NCAA field. That's obviously four more two extra games.

1902
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 2: Here's the plan, seventy two teams in the nca field.

1903
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: All thirty two automatic qualifier are seeded into the field.

1904
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: The top twenty four at large teams are seeded into

1905
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 2: the field. The remaining sixteen at large teams play in

1906
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 2: the first eight in Dayton, four games each day instead

1907
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 2: of two. Nothing else changes. I'm a purist, but I'm

1908
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 2: a realist. I don't think his math works out there

1909
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 2: because if you're adding four games, if you're adding four

1910
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: teams to seventy two, right then you wouldn't have four

1911
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: games to day, you have three. But I the point

1912
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make, and we don't have to spend

1913
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 2: too much more time on this. I want to get

1914
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 2: back to cal Perry. But it feels like it's coming.

1915
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 2: On the one hand, if there's another game or two

1916
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 2: on Tuesday and Wednesday, is it gonna change that much

1917
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: A couple things to your point, Jason, it's gonna be

1918
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 2: a lot of mediocre Power Conference teams that nobody actually

1919
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 2: wants to. Just give me a bracket with sixty four

1920
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,839
Speaker 2: teams on Thursday. Don't don't start with seventy two plays

1921
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 2: into many this many teams get a first round by no.

1922
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 2: The bracket is perfect, it's simple. We don't you know,

1923
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 2: you could just fill it out. You don't need to

1924
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 2: overthink it. And I hope we stay there. But I

1925
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 2: do think that there has been a little karma for

1926
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Speaker 2: Greg Sank and the SEC. Just like in basketball, a

1927
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1928
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1929
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1930
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1932
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1933
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1934
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1935
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 2: come back John Calperry, his present and of course his future.

1936
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Speaker 2: What's next for cal We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio.

1937
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1938
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1945
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Speaker 2: really the lead story of the tournament, Jason? That is

1946
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 2: obviously the president future of John Calipery. We talked about

1947
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 2: it quite a bit in our one, but Kentucky loses.

1948
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 3: Everybody knows that.

1949
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 2: What was interesting today though the conversation obviously coming out

1950
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 2: of the opening round was well, you know, I mean

1951
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 2: you can't. Yeah, hey, you might say you want to

1952
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 2: fire him, but can you really fire him?

1953
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Thirty three million dollars buyout.

1954
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, earlier today Matt Jones Kentucky Sports Radio covers that

1955
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 2: team very plugged in in that situation. Here is what

1956
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 2: he said about the setup with Kentucky. He said, this

1957
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: was about noon or so Eastern time. He said, let

1958
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 2: me find the exact quote here. Here's where the Kentucky

1959
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 2: basketball situation stands. The decision is all in Barnhardt's hands.

1960
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 2: That's the ad Mitch Barnhardt. The sense that if he

1961
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 2: decides he wants to move on, the money will be there.

1962
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,600
Speaker 2: There is a sense of nervousness with everyone around the

1963
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 2: program because no one is really sure where Barnhard's mind

1964
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: is right now, and I'm told the university leadership is

1965
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 2: supportive of whatever he decides. I think we know something

1966
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 2: by Monday, if not before, Well, it's one twenty five

1967
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: Eastern time here on Sunday, so it's basically you know

1968
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 2: all day Sunday to get a conclusion.

1969
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 3: What do you I mean, like, what you know?

1970
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 2: We talked an hour one a lot about what should

1971
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,839
Speaker 2: happen and the fact that this is not the standard

1972
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 2: of the probably the most successful program in history, you know, UCLA, whatever, Like,

1973
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 2: what do you think will happen? Because on the one hand,

1974
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: you know, the success is not to the standard of

1975
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 2: not only Kentucky, it's not to the success of the

1976
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 2: early John Caliperry era at Kentucky. On the other hand,

1977
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars is a lot. And oh, by

1978
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 2: the way, you know, you got to raise that money

1979
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 2: quick and you got to figure out who the heck

1980
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 2: is the next head coach. Do you have any sense

1981
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 2: for what you think will actually happen in Lexington?

1982
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: Jayson, I don't know. I mean I thought Thursday when

1983
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: it happened and I sent you that message, it's just okay,

1984
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: you got to get rid of the guy. And I

1985
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: still believe that's the right choice to make. Are they

1986
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 1: gonna make it? Though? I mean, we had Nick Coffee

1987
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: on he's plugged in Louisville in seven to ninety on

1988
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 1: our Fox Sports radio affiliate up there. We both know him,

1989
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: and you know, he said he thinks col will still

1990
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: be there to start next year. He also said that

1991
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: it seemed like it would be a lame duck. Heere

1992
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 1: intentionally so kind of so Kentucky could get everything lined

1993
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: up and then you know, the plan after next season

1994
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: would be different. Similar in some ways, although if Jimbo

1995
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 1: were to have come back at Texas A and M

1996
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: this past year and one big, obviously they're not gonna

1997
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: let him go. If coach caw were to come back

1998
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: next year and you know, win thirty games and go

1999
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: to the championship game or go to the Final four,

2000
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna have the same argument. But

2001
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: it sets the stage and in motion if you haven't

2002
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 1: already been moved an emotion. I just wonder, if you're Kentucky,

2003
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 1: are you really just gonna throw next year away? Or

2004
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,759
Speaker 1: is there is there a way to do this faster

2005
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: or not. I am not really sold either way as

2006
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: to whether or not he's gonna be there or not.

2007
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: Matt Jones's tweet is is kind of cryptic. It doesn't

2008
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 1: really give you anything, but it kind of says, Hey,

2009
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: they're definitely in discussions, and that's more than you generally

2010
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: have heard about about coach cal in the past. And

2011
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: I think that's where you kind of look at it

2012
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: and say, hmm, okay. It's almost like if you're looking

2013
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 1: for some kind of a bread crumb to follow in

2014
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: the woods, that that that tweet? Is it? That that's

2015
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: enough to just okay, there there's movement here. Are they

2016
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna pull the trigger now?

2017
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Speaker 3: That is?

2018
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: That is yet to be determined, but clearly the seat

2019
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: is red hot. If he is back next year, there's

2020
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna be expectations on it, and and it sets the

2021
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 1: stage for it to be his final year. I tend

2022
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 1: to think he's gone, but that's just a gut feeling

2023
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: for me right now.

2024
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just think, like you said, I think

2025
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 2: when it all happened here, we all, I mean, we

2026
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 2: all kind of like you can't keep doing this. The

2027
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 2: definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and

2028
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 2: over and over and expecting different results. And I think

2029
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 2: that's still accurate. But then it was funny because I

2030
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: woke up Friday and people were still talking about it.

2031
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 2: And then by like midday Friday, we moved down on

2032
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 2: the Friday games, and I was like, man, we're just

2033
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 2: gonna wake up in two weeks and cal's gonna something's

2034
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 2: gonna happen. We'll be like, oh, yeah, Cal's still the

2035
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: head coach. But I do tend to think I don't

2036
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: think you can bring him back with like the intention

2037
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 2: of firing him, because I understand getting the money right

2038
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: and all that. I just I just don't think you

2039
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 2: can do that, because again, what if he has a

2040
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 2: great year, I mean, he's gonna want an extend this

2041
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 2: and that.

2042
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 3: It's weird. It's just I don't ever remember one.

2043
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 2: Quite like it where you have a legend clearly not

2044
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 2: living up to expectation. And this isn't like Jimbo Fisher

2045
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 2: was there six seven years, like Cal was there thirteen

2046
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 2: fourteen years. He has won at the highest level, but

2047
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 2: it's clearly going in the wrong direction. I think the

2048
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: other thing that Nick said, which which I think I knew,

2049
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 2: but maybe I hadn't really heard it articulated like this,

2050
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: is that I don't even know that Cal's doing it

2051
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: because he wants to win.

2052
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 3: I think he just wants to prove that your spite.

2053
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not healthy for anybody in life, you know.

2054
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 2: And and I'm not the first person to say this,

2055
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: but I think right now, you know, Cal wants to

2056
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 2: stay proved the doubters wrong. I think, listen, I think

2057
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: Mitch Barnhardt, even though he and Cal don't get along publicly,

2058
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: Mitch Barnhart's the ad for people who don't know.

2059
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he wants to make this move.

2060
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 2: I mean, you alter have a Hall of Fame coach,

2061
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: you don't want to fire him. But I also wonder

2062
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 2: if in hind you know, when hindsight is able to

2063
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 2: be looked through, if it would just be best for everybody,

2064
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 2: because it just feels like, and I will say, it's like,

2065
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, Cal has had It's clear there is a

2066
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 2: divide with him in the fan base. There were times

2067
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 2: this year where he wouldn't do postgame press conferences or

2068
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 2: I think there was a radio appearance that he just

2069
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 2: skipped after one of their late late season losses. And

2070
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 2: it's like, it seems pretty clear that he's over those people.

2071
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 2: When I say those people, I mean the fans that didn't.

2072
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 2: That might have sounded derogatory if it was. I apologized

2073
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 2: to any Kentucky fan listening that that wasn't my intention.

2074
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 2: But I think it's clear he's over them and keeping

2075
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: a job where you are not wanted just to prove

2076
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 2: people wrong. When you've been trying to do that for

2077
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 2: four or five years and you have been unsuccessful. I

2078
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 2: don't know who that benefits. And so I can't sit

2079
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 2: here and lie. I mean, I mean, I think it

2080
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 2: could be fifty one forty nine percent either way. But

2081
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,719
Speaker 2: I just I think even if he comes back, it's

2082
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 2: not going to be for the right reasons. And I

2083
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 2: don't see any reason to think that it will get

2084
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: tangibly better than it was this year.

2085
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: No, I think it continues to go in the wrong direction,

2086
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: not the right direction. If you're coming back for spite,

2087
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: unless you're Aaron Rodgers, that's probably not going to work

2088
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 1: out very well. Sure, And if and you know, you

2089
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: said this to me earlier today, and I thought about

2090
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 1: an I agree a million percent on this too. I

2091
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to come back if he's that over the fans,

2092
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: if he's tired of their entitlement or whatever it is

2093
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: that they expect and never being satisfied and all this,

2094
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: and he thinks that he's done enough where that he

2095
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 1: continues to do enough and then go. You've made enough money.

2096
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't even mean you have to retire if you

2097
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: still love coaching, go somewhere where it's not going to

2098
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 1: be like that. You know, go somewhere, go to amid Major,

2099
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 1: or go somewhere else. You can just enjoy what you

2100
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: do again, because I think that's the biggest, the biggest

2101
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,759
Speaker 1: thing that I see in this entire scenario. Coach Colses

2102
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,839
Speaker 1: not having fun anymore. I don't know when that changed,

2103
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure when he was really having fun,

2104
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 1: but it's just clear it's not fun for him anymore.

2105
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 1: It's not it's not the way that it was in

2106
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 1: any respect. He's again if it's him versus the fans,

2107
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 1: then there's nothing there because if you can't, if you're

2108
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 1: not embracing that environment, if you're not embracing those people

2109
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 1: and their fervor for what you do and caring about

2110
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: every move that you make, then you got to go, like,

2111
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 1: if that passion has gone, if that fire is gone,

2112
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: or if that's become sour, then you're doing Yeah, you're

2113
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,879
Speaker 1: doing university of disservice, but you're doing yourself, your own sanity,

2114
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 1: your family, your mental health, all of that of disservice.

2115
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: And for what, like, whatever you accomplish, it's not going

2116
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 1: to be satisfying in the end, Like, let's say you

2117
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 1: do come back and you win a championship and you

2118
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: say so there stick it, Like okay, cool, what does

2119
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 1: that mean next week? What did you have to go

2120
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: through that you didn't have to go through in order

2121
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 1: for some kind of a selfish motive. If he's not

2122
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: there for the right reasons, Kentucky should want him out

2123
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: and cal should want himself out. So I just feel like,

2124
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: is he going to be that stubborn that he would

2125
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: rather be miserable yep than to walk away or to

2126
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 1: go somewhere else and start and try to build a

2127
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 1: program and use his coaching document and do some of

2128
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: the other things without the pressure of Lexington on top

2129
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: of him. I think that's the question that none of

2130
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 1: us have an answer to right now.

2131
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 3: None of us have an answer, and I'll be honest,

2132
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 3: I don't.

2133
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,719
Speaker 2: I think when I woke up Saturday morning, I thought

2134
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 2: he'd be back. Now I'm not sure, but I don't

2135
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 2: think either side would surprise me right now. And you know, again,

2136
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 2: it's just a wild, wild situation. I don't think any

2137
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 2: of us thought we would actually be here, at least

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Speaker 2: until Thursday night, when Kentucky lost to Oakland.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: It's radio airn towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: There's more college hoops to discuss.

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Speaker 2: What before we get to it final time, Let's toss

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Speaker 2: it over the news deest this evening to saga what

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Speaker 2: is trending.

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Speaker 8: In March Madden A second round action Tonight we had

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01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 8: an overtime game than a double overtime game at the

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Speaker 8: same site. We'll get details in a moment. Two things

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01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 8: that just happened won the Australian Grand Prix finish with

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01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 8: Carlos sains as the winners. For Stappin and Hamilton failed

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01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 8: to finish and quite a comeback. In the NHL, the

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01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 8: San Jose Sharks were up for to nothing lost in

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01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 8: overtime five to four to the Blackhawks. In Sharks franchise history,

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01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 8: this was the first time they were up four and

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01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 8: did not win the game. Including postseason. That's almost three

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01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 8: thousand games San Jose's had as a franchise, and Ell

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01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 8: hung on them tonight Rangers in a shootout edge. The

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01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 8: Panthers La Kings won in overtime against the Lightning and

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01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 8: home wins for Vancouver and Vegas. The Philadelphia Eagles signed

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01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 8: quarterback Will Greer a reminder. NASCAR's next Cup Series races

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Speaker 8: tomorrow on Fox TV from Austin, Texas three thirty pm

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01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 8: Eastern time, and Kyle Larson won today's Infinity race with

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01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 8: a pass on the final lap. This was his first

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01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 8: Infinity Series starts of the season. Now in Pittsburgh, PA,

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Speaker 8: the late game ended at close to twelve thirty am

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01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 8: Eastern Time. It was a double overtime victory for three

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01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:22,959
Speaker 8: seed Creighton over Oregon eighty six to seventy three. Earlier

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Speaker 8: same sites, eleven seed NC State beat fourteen seed Oakland

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01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 8: in overtime seventy nine to seventy three. Oakland late in

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Speaker 8: the game shot one of eleven from the floor. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 8: NC State with a nine to zero run in the overtime.

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Speaker 8: Friday and the sweet sixteen North Carolina State against either

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Speaker 8: Marquette or Colorado in Dallas. Tomorrow's schedule for the second

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Speaker 8: round starts with Marquette against Colorado and then the Purdue

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Speaker 8: game against Utah State. The late game on Sunday night

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01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,839
Speaker 8: is San Diego State versus Yale, a guy that coached

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Speaker 8: against the Aztecs, and the final four year Ago, Florida

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Speaker 8: Atlantic's Dusty May is leaving FAU. He is Michigan's new

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Speaker 8: head basketball coach. The Wolverines just finished last in the

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Speaker 8: Big Ten Conference. May attended Indiana, Illinois, and Iowa State

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Speaker 8: each one tonight Thursday in Boston. It's Illinois against Iowa State.

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Speaker 8: In the Sweet sixteen. Illinois won eighty nine sixty three

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Speaker 8: against Dukine, shooting fifty nine percent from the floor. So

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Speaker 8: Dukine's coach, Keith Dambrodt is now retired. Iowa State beat

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Speaker 8: Washington State sixty seven fifty six. The Creighton win was

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Speaker 8: in double overtime against Oregon eighty six seventy three, so Crayton.

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01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 8: Against Tennessee in the Sweet sixteen, Valls eliminated Texas sixty

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Speaker 8: two to fifty eight, even though Tennessee from three point

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Speaker 8: range was three four twenty five. Gonzaga shot sixty percent

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Speaker 8: from the floor and eliminated Kansas eighty nine to sixty eight.

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01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 8: The Zags advance to a ninth straight Sweet sixteen that

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Speaker 8: is the longest active street Houston is going for a

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Speaker 8: fifth straight Sweet sixteen appearance, and the Cougars play tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: We know Gonzaga will face either Purdue or Utah State

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01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 8: in their regional semi final. But this game today, Zags

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01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 8: in the second half had a thirty two to four run.

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01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 8: In fact, there was a fifteen to OH run while

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01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 8: Kansas was zero for ten from the floor. Jayhawks are out.

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Speaker 8: Michigan State's out one seed, North Carolina beat the Spartans

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01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 8: eighty five sixty nine. Tar Heels had a seventeen OHO

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Speaker 8: run late first half. North Carolina is now thirty six

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Speaker 8: and two in NCAA Tournament games when they're played in

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01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 8: their home state. Spartans head coach Tom Izzo was in

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01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 8: the tournament for a twenty sixth straight year. They are

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Speaker 8: done before the Sweet sixteen. Aj Hoggard of Michigan State,

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Speaker 8: who averaged eleven points a game, was one of ten

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Speaker 8: shooting in this loss. And the day started with Arizona,

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01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 8: a two seed, beating Dayton seventy eight sixty eight. Dayton

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Speaker 8: in the first round had a seventeen OHO run late

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Speaker 8: the big comeback against Nevada. They're now out. Arizona did

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01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 8: lead by seventeen and the first half, but not quite

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Speaker 8: a date Dayton comeback in this one. So Thursday, Arizona

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Speaker 8: in Los Angeles against either Baylor or Clemson in the

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Speaker 8: women's first round, one seed Iowa with a victory and

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Speaker 8: one seed usc with a victory. Connecticut and Tennessee each

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Speaker 8: one and Kansas won in overtime. As for the NBA,

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01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 8: Boston won its ninth straight game. Houston won its eighth

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01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 8: in a row. Jalen Green forty one points against Utah

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01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 8: Phoenix in Atlanta with wins Sacramento and New York with

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Speaker 8: wins Washington edge. Toronto won twelve one oh nine. The

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01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 8: Raptors have lost ten straight. Denver did not have Nikola

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01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:34,759
Speaker 8: Jokic or Jamal Murray tonight and still won at Portland

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01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 8: one fourteen, one to eleven. Blazers have lost six in

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Speaker 8: a row, and finally, MLB Opening Day is Thursday for

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01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 8: most teams. Houston's Alex Bregman hit two three run homers

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01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 8: in an exhibition win today against the Mets thirteen to five.

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01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 8: Bregman batting three eighty three this spring. The Rays beat

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01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 8: Atlanta five to two. The lost to Spencer Strider. His

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Speaker 8: spring ERA is up to zero point seventy nine, four innings,

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01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:01,600
Speaker 8: two runs allowed, six more strikeouts. Ozzy Alby is a

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01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 8: first inning home run and the Cleveland Guardians reportedly placed

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01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 8: centerfielder Miles Straw on waivers he could end up in

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01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 8: the miners. Cleveland shutout, Arizona five Nothink Tanner bybe over,

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01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 8: Zach Gallon back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disaga, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Erin Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com studio. Shortly after the show, our podcast

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01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 2: will be going up. If you missed any of today's show,

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01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,720
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01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:33,639
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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

2244
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: and you'll see the show posted right after we get

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01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 2: off air. Well, come back, couple more college hoops topics

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Speaker 2: wrap the show.

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Speaker 3: That's next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tors Jason Martin

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01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios, taking you

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Speaker 2: up till the top of the hour. Bernie Fredo off

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01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,719
Speaker 2: The Bernie Frado Show will follow us. We know Bernie's

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01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 2: got all sorts of good stuff. On the opening weekend

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01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 2: of the NCAA tournament and much much, much more. Jace

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01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 2: just want to get a hit on a few quick

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Speaker 2: topics before we get out of here, obviously mostly all

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Speaker 2: college basketball related.

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Speaker 3: It is that time of year really quickly.

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01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's like a major take, but

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01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 2: I feel like we should at least acknowledge that, as

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Speaker 2: de Seger just told us, Gonzaga with a ninth straight

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01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen. Now, admittedly, you know, probably not, probably not

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01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 2: the best team they've had. And listen, I do think

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: they had probably a three to four year window where

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01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 2: they had a really legitimately good chance to win a

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01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 2: national championship.

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Speaker 3: This is not that team. But I gotta give Mark

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01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 3: few credit. Man.

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Speaker 2: You know, I really thought this program was trending in

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01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 2: the wrong direction. I really thought in the middle of

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01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 2: the season they might miss the tournament. They come back,

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01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 2: Brackett maybe broke their way a little bit. And this

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01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 2: obviously isn't a vintage Kansas team, but credit where Gonzaga

2273
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 2: going to a ninth straight second weekend every NCAA tournament

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Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen.

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01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an impressive accomplishment no matter how you slice it,

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01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: and if you's done an outstanding job to the point

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01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:18,719
Speaker 1: where Gonzaga is a blue blood. Gonzaga is a blue

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01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: blood like they are there. You just you expect them

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01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 1: to be there, and you know, you get by Kansas.

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01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:30,799
Speaker 1: Kansas was brutalized and injured everything else, and so Gonzaga

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01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 1: is back into Sweet sixteen. You talked about how many

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01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: years in a row that you've seen it happen. Here's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I would say about Gonzaga, because of

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01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: the brand and because of that coach, It's not a

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01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 1: team that you really want to play against. A Sweet

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01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 1: sixteen like that, that's not necessarily a matchup I would

2287
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: be looking forward to. It is definitely not even close

2288
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: to their best team. And I remember us being on

2289
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: the air discussing when they were losing a game on

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01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 1: a Saturday night in our time slot. You know, this

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01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: might be a team that misses the tournament, and you

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 1: do see that from some of those bigger brands. Every

2293
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 1: once in a while, maybe they miss out. Now North

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01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 1: Carolina doesn't, but most of the time you see a

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01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 1: lot of these schools that do. I but I look

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01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: at them and it's just right now, they're getting a

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01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: little bit of confidence. They've won a couple of nice

2298
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 1: games here. They ended up just running away from Kansas

2299
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,559
Speaker 1: in the second half of that game yesterday, and they

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01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: put themselves in a position that many other teams couldn't

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01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: get to most of their teams. I think you can

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Speaker 1: look at and say, maybe they underperform based on how

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01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,839
Speaker 1: good they were in the regular season, and the story

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01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: is about you know where they kind of fake news

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01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 1: and then you got in there and you saw them

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01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: against some of the big dogs, and maybe they would

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01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: come up short, and then they got closer and closer

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01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: and closer and closer. But this is a team that

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01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,720
Speaker 1: not much was expected of and they still find themselves

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Speaker 1: into Sweet sixteen. So I actually think I think you

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01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 1: can argue that few has done an outstanding job this

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01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: year because this team doesn't have the talent of some

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01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: of his some of the year's past.

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Speaker 2: No, and I agree, And that's my takeaway is I

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01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 2: think I think you know, listen, I don't think there's

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01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 2: people I think, even the angry social media mob, I

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01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 2: think they respect what he has done at Gonzaga. But

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01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 2: I will say like there was a couple of years

2319
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 2: there where the team was so good that I was like,

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01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 2: you know, how much coaching is he really doing And

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01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 2: like this year, he's had a coach like, they've had injuries,

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01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 2: they've had this, they've had new players, some guys weren't

2323
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 2: quite living up to expectations early.

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Speaker 3: They've had to come along.

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Speaker 2: So I think he you know, listen, we do the

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01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 2: cliche thing and we talked about this with Nick Saban

2327
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: and during football season, but I think you probably argue

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01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 2: this is about his best coaching job here in a while.

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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 2: Really quickly, anything stand out from the Sunday slate. I'll

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Speaker 2: give you a couple of the Marquee games. The first

2331
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 2: game will be Colorado Marquette, followed by Utah State Purdue,

2332
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 2: followed by James Madison against Duke. Also on the slate,

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01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 2: Alabama play Grand Canyon, Yukon Northwestern, and a few other

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01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 2: games throughout the day.

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Speaker 1: Jase, Yeah, I mean you got a lot of you

2336
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 1: got a lot of opportunity for crazy stuff. Now you

2337
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: got the Clemson coach coming out and say what he

2338
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: said about the Big twelve.

2339
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 3: On Star Scott about that.

2340
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then you know, now matching up with Baylor,

2341
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 1: that's going to be interesting and that'll be talked about some.

2342
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: So that's got a little more intrigue than maybe it

2343
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 1: would have otherwise. I think outside of that, I think

2344
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: you keep your eye on Perdue because this is just

2345
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: a team that and this is another coach. Matt Painter

2346
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: is another one of those coaches that his teams tend

2347
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: to come up short at this time. I don't think

2348
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 1: they're coming up short in this game, but you know,

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01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: stranger things have happened. And outside of that, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't see any reason to look at some of the

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Speaker 1: lower seeds and feel great about them. There's not like that.

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Speaker 1: What game is it that jumps out to you as

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Speaker 1: man that's going to be an absolute classic of a game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's one that I look at

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Speaker 1: of those that I feel that way about. I just

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Speaker 1: know it's March and we'll be watching.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely the one. I do think could we could see

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Speaker 2: some fireworks that James Madison team can play many they

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Speaker 2: really took to Wisconsin. I think they could give Trouble

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Speaker 2: one last thing. I meant to ask you this earlier,

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Speaker 2: and I forgot. Does the Dusty May News do anything

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Speaker 2: for you? Florida Atlantic takes them to a final four.

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Speaker 2: We had Nick Coffee on earlier. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people thought Louisville was a done deal, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden he surprises people ends up going

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Speaker 2: to Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't do anything to me other than

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Speaker 1: good for him. And you know, I think at some

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Speaker 1: point you probably peek at Florida Atlantic and you're going

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Speaker 1: to take the next challenge that's there. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to go to Louisville considering the state of the conference

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Speaker 1: Louisville is in right now compared to the future that

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Speaker 1: you might have in the Big Ten. And if you

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Speaker 1: believe in yourself and you go to Michigan and you

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Speaker 1: turn that program around it and it looked like Howard

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Speaker 1: had him going in the right direction, but then this

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Speaker 1: year just everything went completely wrong for that program. But

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Speaker 1: you go in there, it's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: team that does have some tradition to it and Bline

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Speaker 1: and I guess bee Line was part of the decision,

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Speaker 1: and bee Line actually talk to Dusty May. I think

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Speaker 1: it'd be hard to turn that down, Like I understand

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Speaker 1: why you would pick Michigan over Louisville in this situation,

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Speaker 1: but either one of them is a it's definitely a

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Speaker 1: completely different universe. Than where you came from. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is Dusty May was a guy who was an

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Speaker 1: assistant at Indiana who's from Bloomington. Didn't end up at IU,

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Speaker 1: but he ends up in that conference, and maybe that

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Speaker 1: makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Also, yeah, really quick, last last last one Kentucky. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even ask you if they're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: new coach. Is John Caliperry gonna be the coach when

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Speaker 2: we come on air next Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Next Saturday. No, I'm gonna take the bold take and say,

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Speaker 1: Monday morning we will find out he's been let go.

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Speaker 2: All right, So John cal Perry Monday morning is let go.

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Speaker 2: According to Jason Martin, it will set up probably the

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Speaker 2: most fascinating is certainly in college basketball, will be the

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Speaker 2: most fascating coaching search we've seen in some time. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's big jobs that have opened Carolina, Duke, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: None of them have had a real search. Though.

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Speaker 2: And to your point that you brought up earlier, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I think if you fired John Caliperry, you better be

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Speaker 2: darned sure that you know who the next guy is.

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Speaker 2: Nick Coffee from our Louisville affiliate joined us. He said

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Speaker 2: he thinks Scott Drew apparently, I didn't know this. I've

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Speaker 2: heard the name Scott Drew, I didn't know that he

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Speaker 2: already has a personal relationship with Mitch Barnhard the ad

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Speaker 2: so that would set up for something interesting. So I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, Jason, I do think we got to

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Speaker 2: get out of here. Should mention, by the way, Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fratto of The Bernie Fraddle Show will follow us. He

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Speaker 2: is going to have so much good stuff. Make sure

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Speaker 2: you're plugged in. Don't change that dial. Bernie Frattle following us.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what we gotta go. Want to

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Speaker 2: thank the crew. Mary on the boards, Shae our producer

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Speaker 2: for Steve Disager, my partner Jason Martin.

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Speaker 3: I am Eric Tarres.

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Speaker 2: Make sure to download the podcast wherever you get podcasts available.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, we talked to College Hoops, We

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Speaker 2: talked to Cali Perry, We talked to Nick Coffee in

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Speaker 2: Louisville to discuss it all. Download the podcast. Bernie Frattle's

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