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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Dances. I come to from a
Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and Rank Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: You know these. Uh, the way our schedule kind of
Speaker 1: operates right now is we have usually one of us,
Speaker 1: or two of us, or maybe even all three of us,
Speaker 1: have a writing assignment early in the week. Got the
Speaker 1: pod Tuesday, you got the pod Thursday, You've got the
Speaker 1: network show Friday. So we're earning our keep around here.
Speaker 1: But Wednesday for us is kind of a we're quiet day, um,
Speaker 1: where you're left to your own devices on some level.
Speaker 1: There there's some pre show prep things to do, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of an off day for us right now.
Speaker 1: And uh, with that in mind, Hey doing Mark, Um,
Speaker 1: let me let me say this. The Sessler Wednesdays. I
Speaker 1: would say they're on my radar, but that has a
Speaker 1: negative tone. I I'm I'm into these Sessler Wednesdays. But
Speaker 1: there is certainly matured, Joe, there is certainly something cooking
Speaker 1: on these Wednesdays at Sessler manor Um. Yesterday's Yesterday is
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Um, you were very fired up, um
Speaker 1: about some internal reports about a return to the office
Speaker 1: for the NFL. You also had a lot of takes.
Speaker 1: You had a lot what was that Frank's mazy? You
Speaker 1: had a lot of takes about our new NFL network
Speaker 1: program promo that's running, not necessarily positive ones, so just
Speaker 1: checking in how you doing, Bud. I was highly annoyed, UM.
Speaker 1: And you know, when when you get into that world
Speaker 1: of annoyance to me, you know you probably dig out
Speaker 1: of it maybe the next morning. But I, um, I am.
Speaker 1: I do have takes, and I would I would say
Speaker 1: this anything that I tweeted about, you know, the whole
Speaker 1: concept of jamming pet people back in one office. And
Speaker 1: I've I've stayed at these points, so I'm not gonna, like,
Speaker 1: you know, laboriously pour over them again. UM. Whatever I tweeted, UM,
Speaker 1: in my annoyance, I would tweet again right now. I
Speaker 1: happened to notice you had a scorcher. I knowed. I
Speaker 1: was alerted to that these weren't just in our text threads,
Speaker 1: that it was on Twitter. And there are a few
Speaker 1: good ones up. Um railing against going back to work.
Speaker 1: I definitely am worried about the people who you know
Speaker 1: read your tweets and are wondering if they are the
Speaker 1: ponderous extrovers that come up to you. I noticed Adam
Speaker 1: rank like responded to one of them, and so I
Speaker 1: think that was his way of showing I'm not one
Speaker 1: of the ponderous extroverts. Ay, have I you like? You
Speaker 1: like me? Of course? Of course we love just like
Speaker 1: a brief like kind of Just to tell you this,
Speaker 1: this gives you a window into marks Wednesday starts twenty
Speaker 1: two hours ago. Uh Kelly Holkum on fire right now
Speaker 1: and NFL network. Does it end well though? Hashtag brown?
Speaker 1: So I believe a two thousand two playoff game. Everything
Speaker 1: is cool? You have a Warren Moon tweet and then um,
Speaker 1: you have you quote tweeted a Forbes story about working
Speaker 1: from home. A study shows people working from home or
Speaker 1: having sex, dating, taking naps, and doing side hustles on
Speaker 1: company time. Mark quick, let's everyone get back into absurd
Speaker 1: office areas and forced into Machiavellian conversation with people we
Speaker 1: have no interest in communicating with. There's another text tweet.
Speaker 1: Get everyone back in these offices pleaded pants and dumb
Speaker 1: small talk that appeases ponderous extroverts who must dish about
Speaker 1: themselves sunrise to sunset. Nothing else makes sense. Get back
Speaker 1: to the way it is. Then a nixt tweet and
Speaker 1: nice job by the Knicks even in that series against
Speaker 1: the Hawks. Was I don't know what was hotter in
Speaker 1: that deleted one that you had to take off because
Speaker 1: it seemed along the same lines. Was there something? He
Speaker 1: just thought? Could you know what it was? Actually there
Speaker 1: was a mistake in it, and I thought, and I thought,
Speaker 1: I've also I've also like I've I think I've made
Speaker 1: whatever points I was attempting to make. Um, not that
Speaker 1: I've convinced anyone, but you know, just doubling down with
Speaker 1: like the third and fourth, like left and right hook
Speaker 1: seemed there's one more fifteen hours ago. You can take
Speaker 1: all the tea in China and put it in a
Speaker 1: big brown bag for me, sail right around all the
Speaker 1: seven oceans and drop it straight into the deep bluecy
Speaker 1: hashtag d G A F don't give up. Also, looking
Speaker 1: through our group chat of the four of us right now, one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five unanswered texts and then a couple hours later six
Speaker 1: six text that we no one answered, and then Dan
Speaker 1: followed back up with something about himself and um and
Speaker 1: Mark Roysack that's all that this was about. Dan has
Speaker 1: his attention, and then more unanswered a minute. There's no
Speaker 1: cont that right, and that I don't think it's for
Speaker 1: public consumption, but it's fair to say that I was
Speaker 1: sort of like a triple pronged fired up scenario where
Speaker 1: like multiple things we're feeding off each other, and I
Speaker 1: know that it's best for me just to go quiet
Speaker 1: for like, you have to let it out because one
Speaker 1: thing I've learned Mark over the last eight years, like
Speaker 1: that fire is coming for someone. The whole goal for
Speaker 1: me is to make sure I'm not that person. That
Speaker 1: was a tough season. I think it was like and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so if it's got to get out, it's
Speaker 1: fine that it's at some faceless corporate overlords, especially since
Speaker 1: we're not really going to be asked to be sitting
Speaker 1: around in the office anyways. We'll be going and doing it.
Speaker 1: And you know, we love Mark, so it's like we
Speaker 1: know that when we don't reply to Mark, it's not
Speaker 1: because we're being dismissive or we don't like what he's saying.
Speaker 1: It's just like because we're afraid we understand what this
Speaker 1: is really about. It's kind of a mark process to
Speaker 1: life situation. And like the thing where you replied to
Speaker 1: me that it was about me like that, I guess
Speaker 1: we can't share the context. But like I knew there
Speaker 1: was some type of rage and I was getting a
Speaker 1: little fire there. But I'm like, you know what he
Speaker 1: needs this, I'm gonna let him have it and then
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be fine in the morning. Well, I would
Speaker 1: also note that, like I don't float around with no conscience,
Speaker 1: like when I when I sent that text that kind
Speaker 1: of threw a jab at Dan, I thought, well, that
Speaker 1: was stupid. I shouldn't do that. Like I definitely, I'm
Speaker 1: probably the most annoyed at myself through all this. Um,
Speaker 1: these processes were serious. It's not like man was like,
Speaker 1: of course, I think it was deadly serious. Well, but
Speaker 1: here's like, like, here's the thing I like I when
Speaker 1: I went when I was initially dismissed when I raised
Speaker 1: concerns about a certain product that has our images, and um,
Speaker 1: can we just say what it is? It's already, it's already.
Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing that I think we've all
Speaker 1: I'm dancing around around it for reason. Let's just say
Speaker 1: that there was a request apparently made to recreate a
Speaker 1: promotional product featuring us, and I raised concerns, and my
Speaker 1: concerns could not have been more valid. Um, they were
Speaker 1: initially ignored, and then when reality strikes and everything that
Speaker 1: I said would happen happen, It's like, oh, why is
Speaker 1: Mark upset? Fine? I mean we're gonna like life goes on,
Speaker 1: And just so you know, just to be totally clear,
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with any alterations to the product.
Speaker 1: I mostly believe that to be true, but I'm there.
Speaker 1: I'm still investigating Marks mad that we have an NFL
Speaker 1: Network commercial that they changed and I had I had
Speaker 1: said in text within the group, how it is kind
Speaker 1: of funny and a little bit annoying that I didn't
Speaker 1: even have a line in the commercial. Um, and I
Speaker 1: thought that was fun in the first show. Um, in
Speaker 1: the first commercial never went beyond that. We kind of
Speaker 1: kicked around the idea of kind of creating our own
Speaker 1: commercial with Rickey's help, but that never happened. I certainly
Speaker 1: never like mentioned it to anybody else. But then a
Speaker 1: new commercial shows up Mark on Wednesday, Mark Time, Uh
Speaker 1: put things together and decided that I was Machiavellian and
Speaker 1: had gotten a new commercial made which certainly was not true. Well,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm still invest together. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's true or not true. I'm currently looking into it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we love you, buddy, never changed. Please well
Speaker 1: right back at at you all for tolerating you know,
Speaker 1: some of the nonsense. Heavens uh. Today's show, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have some fun Thursday show, post hump Day. I call it.
Speaker 1: Most people want you get past hump Day Wednesday, you
Speaker 1: don't reference it again, reference as again until the next Humpday.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you got past it that it's
Speaker 1: I think it should be celebrated because in general, I
Speaker 1: think Thursday is an underrated day. I've always felt that way.
Speaker 1: I feel very strongly about Thursday as a day in
Speaker 1: general and deserves more credit. So it's post hump day
Speaker 1: for me. I love hi. Um okay, today's show. You
Speaker 1: know I had a mail bag speaking of writing assignments.
Speaker 1: A mail bag went up on NFL dot com. A
Speaker 1: little bit of like a frustration for me is that
Speaker 1: I I write like you guys on the website, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people that ingest our content on this podcast,
Speaker 1: they uh, they don't connect those dots in the same way.
Speaker 1: So when I asked for a mail bag um mail
Speaker 1: bag questions for a written piece, I'll get a ton
Speaker 1: of questions about our podcast and heroes related stuff, which
Speaker 1: is all fun. But at the same time, it's like
Speaker 1: I have an assignment here. I need your guys has
Speaker 1: helped to make this work as a mail bag anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean, some of it's fun. It's not like the
Speaker 1: seven dty fifth time that you get the question if
Speaker 1: you're all on a deserted island, like which one is
Speaker 1: gonna survive? And we answered that. We answered that, um anyway.
Speaker 1: Today's segment a little later on is mail bag questions.
Speaker 1: We wish you would have asked you the listener. It's
Speaker 1: not a personal attack, but it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: please help me out. I try to make it very
Speaker 1: clear in the tweet that they're two separate worlds. That's
Speaker 1: a real struggle, and I think we all understand what
Speaker 1: you're One of One of my questions was going to
Speaker 1: be specifically for Mark, but now we've answered it with
Speaker 1: our intro to the show, which was just like how disappointed.
Speaker 1: Are you at the end of the pandemic, because I
Speaker 1: feel like that's that's really what we're all working out here.
Speaker 1: It's like this was Mark's magical time the last year.
Speaker 1: He does not well, all right, but I mean that,
Speaker 1: you know that I could, I could do about it.
Speaker 1: We're not. We don't need to, you know. Don't look
Speaker 1: at it this way. Mark, don't be sad it's over.
Speaker 1: Just be happy it happened at all. I've been hearing
Speaker 1: a lot about a place called Super Duper Weeny in Connecticut, Mark,
Speaker 1: Connecticut native. Have you heard of super Duper Weeny the restaurant.
Speaker 1: I haven't been there in like twenties something years, as
Speaker 1: a as anyone that lived there, so I'm sure new
Speaker 1: new business is Strangely enough, have popped up since I
Speaker 1: was there. It sounds like an interesting place, Super Duberwhens.
Speaker 1: Check it out if you're in the area. All right,
Speaker 1: let's start with news of a retirement. Hit it, Ricky.
Speaker 1: This will be a forty five yard attempt. That's Ntari's
Speaker 1: luck from this distance of late. This is the Patriots
Speaker 1: season on the line. The kick is away. Greg won't
Speaker 1: be able to stand up after watching that highlight of
Speaker 1: Adam Viniitierry hit in the forty five yard field goal
Speaker 1: in the blizzard at old Foxboro Stadium UM in two
Speaker 1: thousand one to tie that game laid against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Of course, he kicks another short field goal in overtime
Speaker 1: to move the Patriots to the a f C title game.
Speaker 1: The rest is history. A dynasty was born. Venetiery went
Speaker 1: on to have one of the great career as any
Speaker 1: kickers ever had. He's the NFL's all time leading school or.
Speaker 1: He announced Wednesday on the Pat McAfee show that he
Speaker 1: is retiring after twenty four seasons. He's forty eight years old,
Speaker 1: only a three time Pro Bowl selection, which surprised me. Um. Uh,
Speaker 1: three time All pros well uh. He played for the
Speaker 1: Patriots and Colts, where he spent the final fourteen years
Speaker 1: of his career. Greg. When you talk about the all
Speaker 1: time Patriots, where does that a Vintieri rank for you?
Speaker 1: He's He's high up there. I mean, he he holds
Speaker 1: such a unique place in the sports history and in
Speaker 1: Patriots history. It's hard to like count kickers as the
Speaker 1: same as everyone else. But I think Belichick said it
Speaker 1: well in his statement, I'm gonna read it, but I
Speaker 1: love seeing that graphic. As he was about to kick
Speaker 1: it, it it said Vinetary had missed four of his last
Speaker 1: five field goals before that kick. He had hit one
Speaker 1: earlier in that game. But that, to me is what
Speaker 1: kind of Vinitary is all about. You missed some in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl too, But when he had the game winner,
Speaker 1: he hit it. And Belichick's got bars here to his statement.
Speaker 1: People say, you know, the Belichick is not, you know,
Speaker 1: great with with the words, but he's great with a
Speaker 1: concise statement. I think he said it well. Adam Arry's
Speaker 1: greatest kicker of all time, who made the greatest kick
Speaker 1: of all time in the twenty two thousand one Divisional playoffs.
Speaker 1: His consistency, mental toughness and performance under pressure was legendary.
Speaker 1: I'm honored to have coached Adam, going all the way
Speaker 1: back to his rookie year and through some of the
Speaker 1: most special moments in Patriots and league history. Here's the
Speaker 1: sentence that stuck out to me. Adam is in the
Speaker 1: rarest of echelon of athletes whose career accomplishments may never
Speaker 1: be matched. Now, you could say whatever you want about kickers,
Speaker 1: didn't belichick impression to read that quote back that you
Speaker 1: could say whatever you want, he was put in that
Speaker 1: position and and there's some sort of luck involved, and
Speaker 1: like whether that has to do with Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: or whatever. But the last sentence where he says he's
Speaker 1: in the rarest echelon athletes who career accomplishments may never
Speaker 1: be metched, I mean that's true. No, there's never in
Speaker 1: someone in football like Adam Vinytary because of what he
Speaker 1: did there and there may never be and that alone,
Speaker 1: like whatever you want to say about it, it's like
Speaker 1: that's just a unique and amazing thing. As a Patriots
Speaker 1: fan and as a football fame, I don't know how.
Speaker 1: You don't how anyone would not immediately taking him for
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. There's really only two pure kickers
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. It's Morton Anderson and John Stenerude.
Speaker 1: I mean, because you've got George Blanda who played quarterback
Speaker 1: and kicked, and Luke Roza played many seasons at left tackle,
Speaker 1: which I didn't actually know that, um, but this would
Speaker 1: be the third and he's totally I think Belichick nailed it.
Speaker 1: I mean he nailed it. Is he the best kicker
Speaker 1: of all time. I don't know, but the right but
Speaker 1: the longevity mixed with huge career moments um to me
Speaker 1: is a hall of fame together. If West was here,
Speaker 1: I feel like he would sum this up really nicely. Um,
Speaker 1: But like what is sports? I mean, it's a collection
Speaker 1: of moments and the great ones, eyes to the occasion.
Speaker 1: And even if he doesn't, he didn't have the natural
Speaker 1: ability of a Justin Tucker as an example, He first
Speaker 1: of all had a ton of ability based on a
Speaker 1: quarter century playing professional football, but also when those moments arose,
Speaker 1: he seemed to always step up. And you know, you
Speaker 1: have those two kicks in the snow, you have the
Speaker 1: game winner in the Super Bowl that year, you have
Speaker 1: another game winner in the Super Bowl couple a couple
Speaker 1: of years later against the Panthers. Greg, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: could point out five or six more big kicks that
Speaker 1: he hit during his run. And then he went to
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and and it was pretty rocky in the end there.
Speaker 1: But he was rock solid for um a long time
Speaker 1: for them. If he's not, he's not all. My point
Speaker 1: was like that's almost secondary to me because of what
Speaker 1: you know Belichick was getting at there was like his
Speaker 1: place is so unique, like many people in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame will never have that place in the in
Speaker 1: the game. He also, you know, fourteen years in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: he led the league in field goal percentage five years
Speaker 1: ago like a team. He did that three or four
Speaker 1: times too. So he wasn't great. I mean, there's he
Speaker 1: was there. He hit a lot of big kicks for
Speaker 1: for those Colds teams too, and he was very fortunate
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, part of what Belichick is saying
Speaker 1: is he to be able to be in this upper
Speaker 1: aftel and he had to have these opportunities and be
Speaker 1: attached to these teams and be in these moments and
Speaker 1: and thrive when they counted. So it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a perfect confluence of things that led to I think
Speaker 1: one of the most memorable careers of anybody. You know,
Speaker 1: forget about kicker or whatever the position was. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: Vinitary and what he did. One question for you, because
Speaker 1: I know it's like you're removed from the um you know,
Speaker 1: from the Pro Football Writers Association of America. If you're
Speaker 1: pro quarterback wins, no one's allowed to even consider that.
Speaker 1: It's as a viable way to measure a human being anymore.
Speaker 1: But kicker wins do we do we care about that?
Speaker 1: Is that okay to care about? Mean he doesn't need kick?
Speaker 1: I mean he does find to find kicker wins. Do
Speaker 1: you mean the straight up wins tracker of his team
Speaker 1: or like his kicks with the game on the line,
Speaker 1: game winning kicks think or go ahead kicks earlier in
Speaker 1: the game. You know, I'd like to see a percentage
Speaker 1: on that for sure. Happy trails. And by the way,
Speaker 1: the Kicker Club, we lower the flag out front to
Speaker 1: half mask um, so they're not allowed back into the club. Well,
Speaker 1: he has his own Adam has his own kind of booth.
Speaker 1: Like if you went to like the top clubs in
Speaker 1: Minneapolis or whatever, Prince would always have his own velvet
Speaker 1: area that no one else could even look at. Adam
Speaker 1: has his velvet Prince booth at the Kicker Club. The
Speaker 1: flag goes out to half mass because seeing a guy's
Speaker 1: career and no matter how long it went, is a
Speaker 1: reminder of everyone's mortality and how nothing is forever um.
Speaker 1: But it's a celebration and we plan to celebrate Adam
Speaker 1: going forward in the club. Forty seven year old guy
Speaker 1: from South Dakota state you know in the club. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that he closed the guy they have
Speaker 1: stadium down with those two kicks. I mean that you
Speaker 1: can't write that stuff. On the way to their first season,
Speaker 1: the NFL and other news in the NFL and the
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association have agreed to a salary cap ceiling
Speaker 1: of two hundred and eight point two million for two.
Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero of NFL Network reported Wednesday. Pellicero noted that
Speaker 1: there is not currently an agreed to cap floor and
Speaker 1: that the final cap figure will not be set until
Speaker 1: next February. The ceiling for two is nearly thirty million,
Speaker 1: more than one eighty two and a half million caps
Speaker 1: for one, pointing toward an expected spike in future revenue
Speaker 1: for the league following the COVID nineteen pandemic year of
Speaker 1: And mark you the one of your tweets from Wednesday,
Speaker 1: you alluded to what happened at Madison Square Garden with
Speaker 1: an electric garden, fifteen thousand fans going nuts, um, say,
Speaker 1: even their series the next with the Hawks, And yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't going up unless like this, Unless the NFL
Speaker 1: is like, okay, we're gonna have full houses across the
Speaker 1: country this is going to be much different than what
Speaker 1: happened last year, and that's something to look forward to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, you if you go
Speaker 1: read some of those old um historical epics that describe
Speaker 1: how the NFL kind of grow grew from from nothing
Speaker 1: through the EBB and flow of it all that there
Speaker 1: were a lot of franchises that struggled to even UM
Speaker 1: go year a year out of the gate, and there
Speaker 1: was they were not equal UM. And it's just incredible
Speaker 1: to see that the NFL, probably in all sports leagues
Speaker 1: were put through what the most trying year that you
Speaker 1: could script on paper for sports in general, Like no
Speaker 1: fans um incredible, Like you know, problems and issues based
Speaker 1: on a human virus that's knocking players and coaches, how
Speaker 1: the lineup left and right, and they've survived it, and
Speaker 1: they've survived it rather nimbly. And like the you know,
Speaker 1: the cap number of going up is I think also
Speaker 1: great for the craftier UM free agents that you know,
Speaker 1: weren't going to get their their worth on the open
Speaker 1: market that signs sort of these one year I guess
Speaker 1: prove it type deals or maybe NFL prove it to
Speaker 1: me that you're gonna be around after this year, and bang,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a new chance if they if they
Speaker 1: succeed to sign a better contract a year from now.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's a lot of business because the
Speaker 1: most business filled year of the NFL that will ever
Speaker 1: ever know, And um, it'll be nice just to have
Speaker 1: it back, that part of life back to normal. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots absolutely spent this offseason intentionally, that
Speaker 1: they saved for this offseason intentionally once they knew what
Speaker 1: the situation was going to be, because cap space now
Speaker 1: and go back to it next year doesn't have the
Speaker 1: same sort of value. I just looked and half the
Speaker 1: league has more than thirty million dollars in cap space again, uh,
Speaker 1: and you know teams have like, you know, fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty million. So there's very few teams that are gonna
Speaker 1: be that freaked out. And there's a lot of teams
Speaker 1: towards the top, like seventy eight million dollars gas way
Speaker 1: more than the ever you know, knee And so that's
Speaker 1: that's back to normal, I think. And yeah, salaries will
Speaker 1: go up, but the good thing I think is we
Speaker 1: won't hear as many teams crying poor and having a
Speaker 1: trade because of cap space and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: so the Patriots might as well have spent all that
Speaker 1: money this year. They still got thirty million next year
Speaker 1: in space. In other news, the Houston Texans interesting uh
Speaker 1: relationship they have with the media down there in a
Speaker 1: in a New England Patriots type way. Nikossario of course
Speaker 1: came over from New England to Houston and this tweet
Speaker 1: from friend of the show John McClean. For the first
Speaker 1: time in forty five years of covering the NFL, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing something new. Media allowed to attend our first Texans
Speaker 1: oti a and we're given rosters with no numbers for players,
Speaker 1: names with no numbers next to them, with almost fifty
Speaker 1: new players. Idiotic, McClean says. McClean is not happy, and
Speaker 1: it's uh, these you know, these NFL teams are trying
Speaker 1: to make it harder and harder for the media to
Speaker 1: share takeaways on these O t A practices, which you
Speaker 1: both understand, but also you get why this is kind
Speaker 1: of dirty business to me. And it's all I feel
Speaker 1: like we're all part of the big ecosystem here and
Speaker 1: the coverage of the sport is good for the fans,
Speaker 1: and when the teams get overly cute and secretive that
Speaker 1: we don't really win and it should really ultimately be
Speaker 1: about the fans. Where do you guys come down on this?
Speaker 1: Is this a trop alert now? Because I feel like,
Speaker 1: didn't Joe Judge last year? There we go get himself
Speaker 1: in the same sort of trouble, except he took the
Speaker 1: names off the jerseys, which I think the Patriots have
Speaker 1: done in the past. Okay, but the names, okay, the
Speaker 1: names making it annoying. You take the numbers away, and
Speaker 1: as McClain points to, when you have an entirely new roster,
Speaker 1: it's a total bank sesh. That is, you're basically saying
Speaker 1: you won't be able to do anything unless you can
Speaker 1: see inside these guys helmets or whatever. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do they remember, they're like a hundred
Speaker 1: yards away. On top of it, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the agreement um. Apparently there is no agreement around some
Speaker 1: thing like this, because look at if you're you know,
Speaker 1: we don't have to go do the job of a
Speaker 1: beat reporter where you've got to You've got to be precision, um,
Speaker 1: mixed with quickness and facts, and you can't get it
Speaker 1: wrong and you're you're turning that whole thing into much
Speaker 1: for them. And McClain, who has been he's seen everything. UM,
Speaker 1: I love him because he has. When he gets annoyed
Speaker 1: at the Texans will let you know, UM on field stuff,
Speaker 1: but you don't hear a lot of just like endless
Speaker 1: complaining from him. And with this one, it's like it
Speaker 1: stands out is a wrong a wrong done and like
Speaker 1: I hope you know either A they're that disorganized or
Speaker 1: be they're doing it intentionally to the reporters. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure which of those options I'd like better as a
Speaker 1: Texans fan. I mean to me, I think it's a
Speaker 1: total men which is this is a this is an
Speaker 1: organization that a cleaned out their PR staff and like
Speaker 1: a very popular one UM replaced it with with nothing
Speaker 1: of near you know, uh likability according to the people
Speaker 1: that work with the Texans, and essentially seem to be
Speaker 1: antaggoning to stick towards the press and towards all of
Speaker 1: us to cover football. And I just something about the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I think McLean nailed it. It's it's idiotic
Speaker 1: and it's um it's aggressive. In other news, some changes
Speaker 1: to how the NFL handles cut downs, uh this summer.
Speaker 1: For years, of course, teams were required to trim their
Speaker 1: ninety men russ there down to seventy five players right
Speaker 1: before the final preseason game. They altered that in two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen when they went straight from ninety to fifty
Speaker 1: three ahead of Week one. The NFL changed things up
Speaker 1: with COVID last year, and now the NFL is returning
Speaker 1: to multiple rounds of cuts. Uh. So by auguste you
Speaker 1: gotta get to night five by the week later, eighty
Speaker 1: thirty one of August eighty to fifty three, Greg, you
Speaker 1: wanted this is the news. I didn't. I didn't do
Speaker 1: anything but the news this doesn't It will be nice
Speaker 1: for us on Labor Day weekend. I feel like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's the same with you guys. But Amica,
Speaker 1: my wife, she knows the NFL schedule now, so she
Speaker 1: knows that the Saturday of Labor Day weekend, we're always
Speaker 1: getting banged a little bit and we gotta, yeah, I
Speaker 1: write a little column that day with the cutdowns, and
Speaker 1: like family stuff is on hold until you know, mid
Speaker 1: the late afternoon. So now that's all freed up. So
Speaker 1: thanks Rogers on Tuesday. That's the day where you're expecting to,
Speaker 1: you know, dig in and do some work. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate that very good. Todd Gurley, remember when he was
Speaker 1: the best running back at football. It was like two
Speaker 1: years ago, three years ago. He's been unemployed since his
Speaker 1: one year deal with the Falcons came to a close.
Speaker 1: He's getting interest from the Detroit Lions. He is in
Speaker 1: Detroit today Thursday, post hump Day, to visit the lines.
Speaker 1: According to ESPN, that would re team Gurley with Jared
Speaker 1: Goff if it happened. And you know, again we're trying
Speaker 1: to get the fans excited over there in Detroit and
Speaker 1: read pairing Todd Gurley and Jared Goff five years after
Speaker 1: they were the hot thing. Maybe he won't do it,
Speaker 1: but uh, it's good to see Gurley at least getting
Speaker 1: the chance to to pitch himself because it's been very
Speaker 1: quiet for him in this offseason. I you know, I
Speaker 1: was curious if he was going to be interested in
Speaker 1: taking the type of contract that I assume he'll be
Speaker 1: offered here, which you know, he got six million dollars
Speaker 1: to play for the Falcons. I thought he really hurt
Speaker 1: their offense. Last year, I thought he was one of
Speaker 1: the worst, you know, running backs in the league that
Speaker 1: got over you know, a hundred touches and took a
Speaker 1: lot of negative plays and just made a lot of
Speaker 1: mental mistakes that that just seemed to hurt the Falcons.
Speaker 1: So I assume he's gonna get offered like a one year,
Speaker 1: two million dollar contract or you know, maybe some incentives,
Speaker 1: but close to the minimum. Is he going to be
Speaker 1: motivated to doing that after making so much money on
Speaker 1: the guaranteed contract that you're right there, and it's only
Speaker 1: three years ago, less than three years ago. This summer
Speaker 1: he got the guaranteed money and he partly got it
Speaker 1: from Brad Holmes, who's their gm uh in Troit. He
Speaker 1: was in Los Angeles, So you see the connection. I
Speaker 1: like that we're ahead of this because I assume he's
Speaker 1: going to be signed in this contract. I think it's happening.
Speaker 1: What what I would wonder what he's being told his
Speaker 1: role would be the because you've got DeAndre swift Um.
Speaker 1: They signed Jamal Williams. They currently have two other players
Speaker 1: with the last name of Williams who also have the
Speaker 1: first name, starting with Jay Jonathan Williams, James Williams, They've
Speaker 1: got three other running backs. They have seven guys on
Speaker 1: the roster right now. And I actually, look, I think
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams UM was a good signing. I think he's
Speaker 1: an interesting guy for on third down. And if they
Speaker 1: think DeAndre Swift is their lead, dude, I know it's
Speaker 1: a root new regime. What what does that leave for
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? You need to go fight to make the team,
Speaker 1: You're right, right. I think it's just like the priority
Speaker 1: you gotta if you're interested, you're keeping your career going,
Speaker 1: come fight. And if he is, you know, a hundred
Speaker 1: percent motivated and stuff. Yeah, like he could outrun Jamal Williams.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see. I don't know. And finally in the news, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we mentioned one trope alert earlier in the show. Here
Speaker 1: are some true Vintage's troupe alerts. First out of Green
Speaker 1: Bay at Jordan Love shows progress during first week of
Speaker 1: O t S. That's that's a big one. This, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like so many things in Green Bay. Um, this
Speaker 1: all happened before. There's a little quarterback by the name
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers who people don't remember. Um did not
Speaker 1: play well his first training camp was written about pretty negatively,
Speaker 1: struggled mostly in the preseason, was behind Craig Noll I
Speaker 1: believe on the depth chart, was number three for his
Speaker 1: rookie year, and people were like, I don't know, this
Speaker 1: Rogers guy might be a bus And then he came
Speaker 1: in in second training camp and O T s and
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh my god, Aaron Rodgers is amazing.
Speaker 1: You know what They were right in the end. So
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't a troup. Maybe Jordan's love is amazing too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the one thing though, is like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go draft a quarterback in the first round,
Speaker 1: beyond all the drama that it's stirred up. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's not going to play all year. He wasn't
Speaker 1: even active for most games last season. He wasn't even
Speaker 1: the second string quarterback. He saw no snaps, he got
Speaker 1: no experience. It's just like, you're these guys need to play.
Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers situation behind Brett Farve was, if anything,
Speaker 1: unusual for a first round quarterback. But they've created it
Speaker 1: again and maybe he is Aaron Rodgers part two. I
Speaker 1: don't see any evidence that all these O T s
Speaker 1: and mini camps will be good for him, but what
Speaker 1: if he I mean, I know a lot of receivers
Speaker 1: didn't show up though. That is uh. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's on my radar, but I find it interesting
Speaker 1: that a lot of the Packers receivers, maybe in a
Speaker 1: bit of loyalty to Aaron Rodgers, didn't show up either.
Speaker 1: And the trope that this is taken from, of course,
Speaker 1: is uh, second year quarterback, the offense is a lot slower.
Speaker 1: Everything is slowed down tight in year two trope alert
Speaker 1: hit it again, Ricky Miami Dolphins head coach, same category
Speaker 1: to a quote, more comfortable heading into two thousand. To
Speaker 1: any one, the game has slowed down for him. He's
Speaker 1: the offense is more familiar to him, and because of that,
Speaker 1: he will be God's gift a quarterbacking in about four months.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's also a new offense. Like Miles Gaskin,
Speaker 1: you know they have that co offensive coordinator set up
Speaker 1: and running back Myles Gaskin said that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of new wrinkles. I mean, he worked with some of
Speaker 1: these coaches in different places, but um, you know, to us,
Speaker 1: I don't like this for Justin Herbert too, for Tuah
Speaker 1: having to learn a new system and your second in
Speaker 1: the off season where things should be slowing down. He
Speaker 1: also I think that the more notable thing he said
Speaker 1: was that his hip um feels ten times better than
Speaker 1: it did a year ago. Now we spent all last time.
Speaker 1: That's that's why it's I mean, of course he's absolutely fine,
Speaker 1: couldn't be healthier, but but if it feels ten times better,
Speaker 1: that just was never the case last year. He also
Speaker 1: said he you know, didn't have the comfort with the
Speaker 1: playbook that he would like last year. That he kept
Speaker 1: running plays that he thought probably were doomed to you know, fail,
Speaker 1: but he didn't have the confidence to audible or anything.
Speaker 1: And I do think for guys who play from the neck,
Speaker 1: up um as like one of their big assets. And
Speaker 1: I put in and I keep thinking of Alex Smith
Speaker 1: and Eli Manning for some reason when it comes to
Speaker 1: to U. Both of those guys, I think one a
Speaker 1: lot before the snap and we're absolute disasters as rookies
Speaker 1: because that's the time when you're you're just not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. And Tuah is like that to me. I
Speaker 1: think players like that have a little smaller margin for
Speaker 1: error and they need a little more time. When when
Speaker 1: if if he's gonna be winning before the snap and
Speaker 1: knowing the playbook and all this stuff, Like he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the physical tools that these other guys do, so
Speaker 1: it makes sense if he has a little slower start,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're done. I'm I'm staying optimistic for Tah.
Speaker 1: There is a weird Uh there's a faction in Greg
Speaker 1: just like Uh spoke on it that, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not really nice to say negative things about Toah,
Speaker 1: like everyone is rooting for too. Don't don't be critical
Speaker 1: of his rookie year. He's gonna be Fine's saying that
Speaker 1: he's struggled. I'm just trying to put it into context
Speaker 1: of why it might not why it might have happened.
Speaker 1: I think he has a lower ceiling. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: than what you want at a number six quarterback. But
Speaker 1: I think there's reasons to understand why. I understand I
Speaker 1: know what Dan saying, Like, I don't think that we've
Speaker 1: there's a bit of a kid gloves with the media
Speaker 1: with two We get it with everyone like Donald had
Speaker 1: incredible But it's true though, right like we couldn't think
Speaker 1: like no I don't think Baker did. He was on
Speaker 1: people's radar, but he played great, so that that helped.
Speaker 1: There is something about two of that I know, Dan,
Speaker 1: I can't. It's hard to put your finger on I
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're saying, though, right, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: My larger point is that Brian Flores is an interesting
Speaker 1: position because we had debates about this last season. He
Speaker 1: benched to a multiple times last year for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick obviously not there anymore. Is Flora is gonna be
Speaker 1: more patient with him in year two that he's his
Speaker 1: hip is four hundred times healthier and he knows the
Speaker 1: playbook and all this other stuff we're hearing, Or is
Speaker 1: this a situation where Flores is not necessarily a huge
Speaker 1: fan of this kid and he's he'll pull him again.
Speaker 1: He's got another um solid backup and Jake Brisket back there.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the excitement level of fits or maybe
Speaker 1: the ceiling on a week to week basis, but it's
Speaker 1: not like you have to. It's not Christian Hackenburg back there. UM.
Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see how the season plays
Speaker 1: out with two uh, if they if they pull him
Speaker 1: at any point for Jake Brisket, it's over to me
Speaker 1: and in their movie Quarterback next year. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: not over for the season or not, but you're you've
Speaker 1: made that. That's what's happening in the news, all right.
Speaker 1: Before we get to uh mail bad questions. We wish
Speaker 1: you would have asked us that it's I just want
Speaker 1: to make sure the listeners understand that I don't have
Speaker 1: an issue with you contributing to the mail bag. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just sometimes I want you to
Speaker 1: read the tweet a little closer. That's all. Put it
Speaker 1: on me. Put it on me. You know, it is
Speaker 1: kind of a Greg conceit and it was your idea.
Speaker 1: But I also don't want to make it seem like
Speaker 1: I'm throwing you under the bus. Greg, And I can't
Speaker 1: believe in the step it up anything, step it up
Speaker 1: with these questions Before we get to the mail bag, though, Greg,
Speaker 1: you just completed your projected Starters series. You went through
Speaker 1: the whole league and all the rosters, um and so
Speaker 1: check it out at NFL dot com slash projected Starters
Speaker 1: eight divisions. This is it. Eight divisions. They're all like
Speaker 1: this should work as a season preview. I will see you,
Speaker 1: um editor, you know my editor. I'll see you in September. Like,
Speaker 1: I should be good until week one right now? Eight
Speaker 1: copy eight articles in two weeks. Forget it, you're good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you should be able to kind of hit cruise control
Speaker 1: a little bit here. Anyway, before we get to the
Speaker 1: uh mail bag, how about we put sixty seconds on
Speaker 1: the clock, Greg and you give us some of your
Speaker 1: noteworthy takeaways from your studying of all of these rosters.
Speaker 1: Do you want more? Plenty? No? Sixties plenty? Alright, I
Speaker 1: can't read my own writing here though. Well, you better
Speaker 1: figure it out because the timer starts now. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you take out the offensive line and quarterback positions in Denver,
Speaker 1: that's a top five roster. Eleven went upside maybe uh yeah,
Speaker 1: they're in their part, but top five roster. Other than that,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, if Frank Clark doesn't rebound, their defensive end
Speaker 1: position is as thin and ugly as any in the league.
Speaker 1: As much as I love the Chargers other than Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa up front, like they can put a lot of
Speaker 1: attention on Joey Bosa because there's not much going on
Speaker 1: up front. The Colts are not ascending anymore. And it's
Speaker 1: the first time ever I think Chris ballad the entire
Speaker 1: Bills starters on both offense and defense were on the
Speaker 1: roster last year. So they're very Chiefs like they basically
Speaker 1: they brought it all back to they didn't do too much.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a concern. The Ravens. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna really need to scheme up the pass rush
Speaker 1: every year. It's like, oh, we don't need offensive linebackers.
Speaker 1: The defensemans, well, our scheme will figure it out. Like
Speaker 1: they are really testing that right now. Uh, the Tech
Speaker 1: or the Titans rather, I like their boomer bust defense.
Speaker 1: I like their defense more than I expected and their
Speaker 1: offense less than I expected. It's fine, got enoughing. You
Speaker 1: got another one in there, Chamber. I wanted to say
Speaker 1: the Browns, um I didn't. The Browns like have clearly
Speaker 1: like the best looking offense in the league or one
Speaker 1: of the top three or four. The defense, though, everyone's
Speaker 1: all excited about and to me, it's like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: could work, or it could be bad again, like line
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, bad linebacker this question mark, like secondaries all
Speaker 1: do like maybe they'll be good but they might just
Speaker 1: be bad again. I think the middle of their defense
Speaker 1: has questions. But I would just say that, um, of
Speaker 1: all the things that we do, you know when you
Speaker 1: write for about foot Fall, occasionally you find that sweet
Speaker 1: spot where what you who you are and what you
Speaker 1: want to be about comes as part of the articles.
Speaker 1: You know, conceit. I think this is the best thing
Speaker 1: that Gregg does all year. And it's not to denounce
Speaker 1: any of the other stuff, but they You should read
Speaker 1: these if you are literally anyone, whether you're covering the
Speaker 1: sport or want to just like find out how much
Speaker 1: these teams have changed the a f C South. One
Speaker 1: particularly reads like a horse a horror novel. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of problems going on in the the a
Speaker 1: f C South, and I thought you really highlighted how
Speaker 1: none of those teams are really growing into something. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of holes suddenly, especially the Titans, right,
Speaker 1: Jaguars fans, I think like that was one I didn't
Speaker 1: the Jaguars fans gotta have some hope here because t
Speaker 1: Law he's set up for some success. They got pieces
Speaker 1: they could compete, said eight and a half. Yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: I banged the over and you were that's just felt aggressive.
Speaker 1: But in that division, yeah, I think there's a there
Speaker 1: is a scenario where that could happen. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's greater than fifty fifty, but there's a scenario for sure,
Speaker 1: And I agree with Mark. This is why this is
Speaker 1: certainly right in Greg's happy zone, which is why we
Speaker 1: gave it exactly sixty seconds in the middle of May
Speaker 1: on our podcast. It feels like maybe a miss, maybe
Speaker 1: a whiff. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. Some things, you
Speaker 1: know don't translate as well. I feel like from I
Speaker 1: don't know the podcast, but you're right, we could use
Speaker 1: the contents. I feel like that was a it was
Speaker 1: a gimme. I didn't realize you had already finished it.
Speaker 1: Um last one went up today. Yeah, a f C West.
Speaker 1: I am excited about these broncos. I'm now convincing myself
Speaker 1: to route for a Teddy team again. There really is
Speaker 1: like a good looking roster like the UM I'm not
Speaker 1: talking to you about Teddy bridgemar Um, the the idea
Speaker 1: that we're doing a fake mail bag now instead of
Speaker 1: having a more a deeper dive on projecting stars. I
Speaker 1: have some regrets. Maybe let's let's keep the door open here, Mark,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this because Greg seems a little bashful
Speaker 1: about it. But maybe next week we should have some
Speaker 1: type of projected starters type seg that just there's I mean,
Speaker 1: he he gave you, led through it. He gave you
Speaker 1: just like a small little look inside a massive machine
Speaker 1: filled with knowledge and information. So I feel like we're
Speaker 1: not doing, We're not being We're what do they say,
Speaker 1: don't look a gift horse in the mouth, which is
Speaker 1: just a strange saying. That's what we're doing right now.
Speaker 1: We're going to have a projected starters episode next week.
Speaker 1: Take out with that gift horse. Give it a sloppy one,
Speaker 1: you know, right? The what is it is? It was
Speaker 1: there a time when people were giving horses to each
Speaker 1: other left and right. It feels kind of upper crust
Speaker 1: action to me, right, I think, Yeah, I mean in
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, perhaps a little here's a little uh yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: would you like this gift horse? No, thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the sentiment. It's a nice looking horse, horse, this
Speaker 1: gift horse. But thanks, but no things. I'm good. I
Speaker 1: don't know the thing that was happening. Yeah, people don't
Speaker 1: do that's a horse. But why I like the look
Speaker 1: in the in the mouth. What is that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe examining it's um, you know, you figured it out.
Speaker 1: There is the sartist. But we work hard and eventually
Speaker 1: we get there. That's it. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So basically, if you're kind of digging into the oral
Speaker 1: scenario here with the horse, um, you are perhaps over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take the gift, just take doesn't to have perfect chompers,
Speaker 1: you know, fix it up a little, you know, just
Speaker 1: take it. The idiom itself probably stems from the practice
Speaker 1: of determining a horse's age from looking at its teeth.
Speaker 1: It would be rude to receive a horse for your
Speaker 1: birthday and immediately examine its mouth in front of the
Speaker 1: person who gave it, as if you were trying to
Speaker 1: figure out the value of your gift. That it happened
Speaker 1: to me a lot as a kid. Right. Erica is
Speaker 1: from that upper Crestrohot Island society. That's the same as
Speaker 1: if if somebody sent you some type of electronic or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, um, and the first thing you do
Speaker 1: is you pick up your phone and look it up
Speaker 1: on Amazon. I don't do that good really help mail,
Speaker 1: help sell it to the jen Z. No, forget about Millennia.
Speaker 1: It's not about millennials anymore so the gen Z ears.
Speaker 1: It's a rough and tumble crowd, that gen Z crowd.
Speaker 1: From what I'm understanding, Hey, Ricky, I feel like, um this, Um,
Speaker 1: what's your name? Olivia Rodrigo. Rodrigo's right up your alley.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's all you're all about her. She's
Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift sort of sound with a little bit
Speaker 1: of Lord thrown in there. It's it's pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I I'm into it. I'm not as into it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a little you know, definitely going back
Speaker 1: through my high school years, like you know, I'm like
Speaker 1: the Jamie Lee Curtis and Freaky Friday, like trying to
Speaker 1: be in a rock band vibe. You know, Yeah, it's there.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's like when all of a sudden, Ashley
Speaker 1: Simpson was a punk rocker and it was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna give you that for a
Speaker 1: little bit. If you're a little bit older. Um, she
Speaker 1: gives me vibes like when Atlantis Morrissette came out in
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. What made her cool was like she
Speaker 1: was not only this young singer songwriter that came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. She had like a little bit of an
Speaker 1: edge to her, like she's saying about things that you
Speaker 1: usually didn't hear about, to use some salty language and
Speaker 1: that kind of you. I think that up to cred
Speaker 1: I I don't want to say Olivia Rodrigo is a
Speaker 1: product because people say she's kind of legitimately talented, but
Speaker 1: it seems like she's studied a lot of this stuff
Speaker 1: for people with her study different but that's okay. She's
Speaker 1: a she's a pop star and he's supposed to figure
Speaker 1: out and has like crazy, crazy smash hits coming off this.
Speaker 1: You know, I caught Greg he didn't realize his camera
Speaker 1: was on, but he like singing and dancing in a
Speaker 1: driver's license and like crying. It was like really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It's solid. It's definitely solid, all right, let's get it.
Speaker 1: It's it's tricky, especially once you get into the age
Speaker 1: range where in she's she's kind of an exciting new
Speaker 1: artist that people are talking about and it's like should
Speaker 1: I be listening? Like it though, like she loved They
Speaker 1: Love BTS two, Like they'll like it, So it's a
Speaker 1: good satisfy. I'll be satisfied, like it's it's better than
Speaker 1: kids music, so I'll take it. I like it. I
Speaker 1: don't have a daughter, and I'm not going to have
Speaker 1: a daughter, um, which is a minor point of contention
Speaker 1: in my marriage. But ultimately I don't hold the cards
Speaker 1: in that realm. So this is what it is. But
Speaker 1: I do have I think one advantage I would imagine
Speaker 1: of having a daughter is that you get to kind
Speaker 1: of experience all sides of the pop spectrum as they
Speaker 1: get older, which I find interesting. If they're into music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got to say Walker is more into it and
Speaker 1: dancing around then than E's sure. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: into the fake mail bag. Sixty seconds. I'm projected starters,
Speaker 1: fake mail bag. Here we go, Greg, you get us
Speaker 1: going all right, and you know I'm chinking. What do
Speaker 1: I want to know from you? Too? Oh yeah? So
Speaker 1: we're basically just no, there's a lot, there's uh, you're
Speaker 1: making up a question the other two people have to
Speaker 1: answer and Ricky jump. In this scenario, your fandom of
Speaker 1: the Jets and Browns will be wiped from your your brain.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna miss them. You have no residual fandom
Speaker 1: left over. It's just like a blank spot. But you
Speaker 1: are waking up today and you do love football just
Speaker 1: as much, and you are choosing a team to root
Speaker 1: for that you hope is you know, last the rest
Speaker 1: of your life, and it's starting right now. And which
Speaker 1: which team do you root for? I'm probably I'm probably
Speaker 1: picking the Rams. There. There's a lot of complications, um
Speaker 1: when you move across the country and kind of start
Speaker 1: your life over, and you have all the of stuff
Speaker 1: that you were born into and you grew up loving.
Speaker 1: And for me, one of the tough things about being
Speaker 1: away from New York for the past decade is, like you, like,
Speaker 1: I use the Knicks as the example, like such an
Speaker 1: exciting time in New York sports, and I just feel
Speaker 1: disconnected from it. Um So, even though I love watching
Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Yankees, and I love the Jets obviously,
Speaker 1: um it would be just easier and cleaner if I
Speaker 1: were back in the home market. And and especially I
Speaker 1: have now to young sons, and it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a conflict about you know, how do they who
Speaker 1: do they support? How hard do I push or do
Speaker 1: I not push at all about who I root for
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I'll just wake up one day and
Speaker 1: be a RMS fan and then if they're Chargers fans,
Speaker 1: that's cool too, and that's it. So that's me stay
Speaker 1: in the l a market old school style that is
Speaker 1: very um altruistic of you and thinking about everyone else's
Speaker 1: needs and wants I I don't have. I'm not able
Speaker 1: to do that on this front, I would Greg. So, dude,
Speaker 1: did I have the same did I grow up in
Speaker 1: the same places? Do you know what? Did I listen
Speaker 1: to w f A and all that other business. If
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, yeah, yeah, it's just like somehow
Speaker 1: your fandom was was wiped and all the memories. So
Speaker 1: in theory like this would be hard to get to.
Speaker 1: You could even like the Ravens because you don't even
Speaker 1: know that they were the rival of your own team.
Speaker 1: You have no you have no history. But yeah, you're
Speaker 1: choosing a team now from scratch, all right, I would go,
Speaker 1: you know, I gave a second thought to the Steelers
Speaker 1: just because I think I'd be attracted to um long,
Speaker 1: long running historical franchises that you know, know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Because the time is short. I don't have twenty years
Speaker 1: to put up with an organization that's you know, riff
Speaker 1: raff and mentally confused. Um. But I I am going
Speaker 1: to pick the New York Giants, UM, with the hope
Speaker 1: that they get back to those ways. That's just the
Speaker 1: team that I think has always been my second favorite team. UM,
Speaker 1: and my heart would go there. That's the first thing
Speaker 1: that came to mind. I didn't come up with an
Speaker 1: answer here, but uh, I probably just think short, short
Speaker 1: ish term and go Chargers because they have Herbert and
Speaker 1: Chiefs with Mahomes or Ravens with Lamar would be probably
Speaker 1: two and three. But since the Charges are here and
Speaker 1: they have the quarterback, yeah, that would probably win the tiebreaker.
Speaker 1: What about you, Ricky, I'm not I'm not some you
Speaker 1: know Turncote Patriots or well you don't you don't have
Speaker 1: that now. I feel like you would wake up and
Speaker 1: still be a Patriots fan. WHOA where am I helicopter
Speaker 1: like going over the vineyard and they just say something
Speaker 1: was wicked annoying before the show, which I haven't heard
Speaker 1: since the senior year at Minnichag Regional in Western Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Mean it is it is legitimately a new team because
Speaker 1: they're going to not win for the next twenty years,
Speaker 1: so you would be having a very different experience as
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. Now I think I think, Um, i'd
Speaker 1: probably pick like some random team that doesn't get like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've always sort of like liked for
Speaker 1: an underdogs, so like I'd probably be like, oh, the
Speaker 1: Lions have like a crazy story of like despair, Like
Speaker 1: I'd want to like fight for like I feel bad
Speaker 1: for those tarts of teams, So I'd probably go there.
Speaker 1: It's it's but really before your time. All kidding aside,
Speaker 1: but once upon a time the Patriots were that, all right,
Speaker 1: Since it's in a similar vein where it's kind of
Speaker 1: creating a separate timeline and involves fandom, Mark, I have
Speaker 1: one for you here, all right. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you the choice of two doors to walk through here.
Speaker 1: One is the Browns win three super Bowls in the
Speaker 1: next twelve years. That's nice because not only you get
Speaker 1: three rings, it's spread out nice. That's a dozen years.
Speaker 1: That's a nice chunk of your life. Um, and you've
Speaker 1: got two boys there, they're gonna fall in love and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Or you go Mr Destiny. Alright, but
Speaker 1: play this clip in case you forgot about your life.
Speaker 1: This is your house. Those are your children, and Cindy
Speaker 1: Joe is your wife. Happy birthday, Darling God. Yes, James
Speaker 1: Belushi and Michael Caine as the kind of angelic figure involved.
Speaker 1: And the plot of the movie was this regular Joe
Speaker 1: guy has this huge moment when he's in high school
Speaker 1: with the game on the line, with the like state
Speaker 1: championship on the line of baseball, he strikes out Mike.
Speaker 1: He goes to a bar. He's down in his luck.
Speaker 1: As a grown man, still thinks about that moment and
Speaker 1: how he blew it. Michael Caine gives him a tonic.
Speaker 1: He drinks the tonic, and all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: hit a home run in that moment and it changed
Speaker 1: his entire life. So and then he learned his old
Speaker 1: life was better old blah blah blah awesome. You know
Speaker 1: he he chose Linda Hamilton's over Rene Russo it's a movie. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you mark, you parlay this is your Mr. Destiny moment.
Speaker 1: You parlay that much referenced peewee football career into high
Speaker 1: school stardom. You become a three year starter for a
Speaker 1: respected D three program that includes all conference selection honorable
Speaker 1: mention as a senior. Your pro day, you just wake up.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you wake up and you're just feeling
Speaker 1: good and you're just having a good day. You have
Speaker 1: an awesome pro day, Like I guess this would be
Speaker 1: the Mr. Destiny moment. You just play out of your
Speaker 1: mind in this regional pro day and you end up
Speaker 1: becoming a surprise seventh round pick by some coach who
Speaker 1: values how gritty and gutty you are and all this
Speaker 1: good stuff. You go on to play in parts of
Speaker 1: four seasons in the NFL okay, mostly as a special
Speaker 1: teams guy, but you do finish with twenty seven catches
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns in your career. Your football career is
Speaker 1: over by age seven. You kind of bounce around with
Speaker 1: some have nots it. There's no like big super Bowl
Speaker 1: thing or it was very nondescript NFL career, but you
Speaker 1: did bounce around for four years. You made you never
Speaker 1: made more than the league minimum, which by the way,
Speaker 1: sid in the new cb A. But whatever, I guess
Speaker 1: we're gonna back this up to when you were twenty two.
Speaker 1: So whatever, it's nice money. UM do you take that
Speaker 1: life basically starting over age seven, not a script NFL career,
Speaker 1: but really an awesome sports life, um or current life
Speaker 1: with three super Bowls for the Browns, your favorite football team. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean this is a huge like sliding door snerial
Speaker 1: where I probably, like the children that I think about, Um,
Speaker 1: you know every minute of every day, don't exist because
Speaker 1: I probably would have met someone completely different. Like hide,
Speaker 1: don't hide behinde that, don't hide that. Yeah, keep trying
Speaker 1: to I know what you're saying, because it's almost impossible
Speaker 1: as a parent to think that way. But try to
Speaker 1: keep the kids and stuff you might you might have
Speaker 1: met Simon it like that that's eight years away from
Speaker 1: even meeting Simone anyway, is like a groupie and you
Speaker 1: met her like outside like a hotel or something. It's
Speaker 1: a groupie of a seventh tround pick. I get it. Um,
Speaker 1: look at I mean, I you know, outside of the
Speaker 1: eradication of my actual family, which I will as you say,
Speaker 1: bury that to the side. I'm gonna go, um the Browns, uh,
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what. I think that helps a
Speaker 1: lot more people. Um, but it for me, I think,
Speaker 1: like I don't know what i'd be if I were
Speaker 1: an athlete that fizzled out at like age thirty two.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was like seven. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: love um the second part of life and the third
Speaker 1: part of life after that. Just knowing myself, UM, I
Speaker 1: would rather have the current structure with a huge I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, with a huge Browns like decade plus um
Speaker 1: coming down the pike. I don't know, is that that's
Speaker 1: my answer? Like maybe I've displeased you with that. But
Speaker 1: what about if um, you and bollsonarios you end up
Speaker 1: with Simone and the boys. I don't know what I
Speaker 1: what am I? So I'm at like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: out there with my pals telling them about my three
Speaker 1: and a half year NFL career from like seventeen years ago.
Speaker 1: I loved playing football to some degree, but I also
Speaker 1: remember um that like these two hour practices. I was
Speaker 1: just sitting there being like, please be over soon. Like
Speaker 1: I you know, I like Charlie's Angels. You gotta love
Speaker 1: the game. You gotta love the But this the Mr.
Speaker 1: Destiny thing. You're really talented. You're in the top you know,
Speaker 1: one percent of football players in the country or whatever
Speaker 1: whatever it would be. Two, you're probably join practice more
Speaker 1: because you're great at football. In this scenario, that makes
Speaker 1: some sense. I mean, I could tell you that I
Speaker 1: will take that over the Browns thing if that's what
Speaker 1: we're looking for, but I think I'd probably just become
Speaker 1: a total a holt on some level. So I'm definitely
Speaker 1: not looking for anything. I guess I was a little surprised,
Speaker 1: but that's good. I mean, you showed out at that
Speaker 1: Williams College pro day. If you threw in like look
Speaker 1: at you're a You're a real plucky athlete who also
Speaker 1: had this huge moment that helped your team win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and your career was four years long. That's
Speaker 1: a little different. I feel kind of Yeah, this will
Speaker 1: bring you down to earth. Um, there's also choy c
Speaker 1: which is reality, which is you'll get neither. That's exactly alright, Mark,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, So um, I'm gonna throw a quick
Speaker 1: one night you hear or. I noticed that some of you,
Speaker 1: especially the clown reading this um, absolutely fall in love
Speaker 1: with various coaches, and we like a ton of them.
Speaker 1: They totally peter out and don't do what we say.
Speaker 1: And I can think of a couple off the bat
Speaker 1: But from where we stand today, I know, Greg, you've
Speaker 1: done your your coach rankings, your GM rankings. Who is
Speaker 1: the most overrated head coach in the NFL? Mm hmmm active? Active?
Speaker 1: I mean someone that we're talking about is one of
Speaker 1: the thirty two head coaches right now. I mean, I
Speaker 1: would say I don't like going down this road because
Speaker 1: I feel like he's a bit of a punching bag
Speaker 1: at times, um, even on this podcast. But you know,
Speaker 1: Gruden in two thousand twenty one, uh, in the fourth
Speaker 1: year of a million dollar, ten year deal. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're supposed to factor in all these elements
Speaker 1: to it, because if he was a more normal deal,
Speaker 1: I probably and there weren't the outsized expectations when he
Speaker 1: came back from his UM time in broadcasting. Um. What
Speaker 1: was the exact word he used at this point? He
Speaker 1: gets so much grief. Um. Yeah, that that's the problem.
Speaker 1: The word overrated, I would I guess I would say Gruned,
Speaker 1: But he's like, yeah, like you say, he's he gets
Speaker 1: so much heat now because I think people there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of enjoyment and seeing him scuffle and the raiders. Um,
Speaker 1: so maybe he's not overrated. But Cliff Kingsbury is the
Speaker 1: other one that comes to fun. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: what we've seen from Cliff Kingsbury on this level really
Speaker 1: uh to warrant all the hype that he had coming in.
Speaker 1: So maybe he's the answer for me. Yeah. Similarly, I
Speaker 1: thought like McCarthy at first, but it's like he's not
Speaker 1: really rated highly. So you needs someone that that doesn't
Speaker 1: get a lot of critique, and I didn't think I
Speaker 1: could come up with one, but then I did. Mike Rabel, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're a defensive guy, how about have a decent defense
Speaker 1: once in a while. I know he's like he he
Speaker 1: everyone likes him, and he's a he uh strikes us
Speaker 1: cutting figure up there. He's great, his teams have done
Speaker 1: pretty well, but he is a defensive coach, whereas the
Speaker 1: sum of the parts on the Titans defense never quite
Speaker 1: add up. Like he's got good some good players and
Speaker 1: they always kind of think so I'll go Mike. Something
Speaker 1: spicy I also like, and I agree that like some
Speaker 1: of that. No, the reaction to these guys are so
Speaker 1: fierce now that like it's it is maybe hard to
Speaker 1: find classically over because McCarthy, I could say but like everyone,
Speaker 1: Ba McCarthy, here's the thing, McCarthy, here's why he came
Speaker 1: to mind those because during that like three hour long
Speaker 1: DAK press conference, Um, how manyton Jerry Jones like and
Speaker 1: we are here with all wonderful coach We just have
Speaker 1: a wonderful coaches like Mike McCarthy did nothing last year
Speaker 1: and he came out of Green Bay with like super
Speaker 1: low Q rating. So I don't you know, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: seems to think he's all the bad ones get fired.
Speaker 1: That's unfortunately for NFL coaches, it is a it's a
Speaker 1: tough business. They're all gone. It is a tough business.
Speaker 1: And it's ultimately about wins and losses and rabel and
Speaker 1: three seas and twenty nine and nineteen. They have a
Speaker 1: division title. Uh, they have been to two playoff games.
Speaker 1: They want a playoff game. Upset went over the Ravens
Speaker 1: last year. I get it. I guess that. Said that said,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, um who might feel so,
Speaker 1: and maybe even some Titans fans out there want to
Speaker 1: see how this team is without Arthur Smith there this
Speaker 1: year well, and in a compromise roster on offense too.
Speaker 1: It's not it's you know, it's not just the defense
Speaker 1: that might underwhelm you. The sun around Greg, what is
Speaker 1: the what do they I know, Corey Davis obviously is
Speaker 1: not there. What else are we? J Smith Smith their
Speaker 1: death in general? Yeah, just you know, just generally got
Speaker 1: paid like a superstar. But it's not like he was
Speaker 1: every I get it. But like now it's like Firk
Speaker 1: sir and who is it Jeff Swaim or something? That's
Speaker 1: their two tight ends and their third receivers, Like I
Speaker 1: don't even know they don't even have a third receiver.
Speaker 1: They're going to have to sign someone and Reynolds who
Speaker 1: was the Rams fourth or fifth fourth or severs their second?
Speaker 1: If they went Julio Jones, that changes things. But I
Speaker 1: think also just like the environment around Derrick Henry is
Speaker 1: gonna be tougher, well we would. It took a while
Speaker 1: for us to go around the room once and now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go to one. I have some
Speaker 1: more football, the ones, but I do want to make
Speaker 1: sure I get this one in because you know, I
Speaker 1: guess we could start with Dan, but it's for both
Speaker 1: of you, which is why are you the way that
Speaker 1: you are? Dan? That's that's a that's a tough one.
Speaker 1: That's a toughie. I think it's a combination of what
Speaker 1: what you're born into and then the atmosphere, like what
Speaker 1: the environment you're around and the experiences in life. I
Speaker 1: think that's the answer. Yeah, I agree with that. Um.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm definitely motivated by um slights and
Speaker 1: past failures two stuff, stuff that from like even eighteen
Speaker 1: years ago, I could still be ruminating on at times
Speaker 1: and it will drive me for two weeks now. It's
Speaker 1: not healthy. I don't think that's the only way. Ago,
Speaker 1: something that like that got me inside, that was good.
Speaker 1: I like that's I think that that's something that I
Speaker 1: had would put us something I could work on potentially. Um.
Speaker 1: But then you know, although in Dan's defense, like I
Speaker 1: am sort of convinced after having kids at least my
Speaker 1: experiences like they were who they were before they can
Speaker 1: speak for the most part, it's like you couldn't change that.
Speaker 1: Change that about them being a parent is it's it's
Speaker 1: a blessing, it's a miracle. It's also it could stress
Speaker 1: you out when you think out think too much about it.
Speaker 1: Like things that you find are good qualities about yourself
Speaker 1: bad qualities about yourself, Like some of that is all
Speaker 1: hardwired into the children. It's pretty heavy if you if
Speaker 1: you want to think too much about it. So you
Speaker 1: don't and you just try to teach them well and
Speaker 1: make them good humans. Um, all right, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: throw another one out there. Do my Mr Destiny one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did do that one. I don't know. I kind
Speaker 1: of did a lot of research on this, but now
Speaker 1: I don't really care what the answer is. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, should we do a lottery uh in the
Speaker 1: NFL instead of the um the do uh? You know,
Speaker 1: worst record gets the first pick. I mean you come
Speaker 1: off a season where, um, the Jaguars just lost fifteen
Speaker 1: straight games to close close the season, including the final
Speaker 1: four weeks when they were outscored by eighty five points.
Speaker 1: You have that Eagles Jalen Hurts, Nate Sudfell disaster um
Speaker 1: in Week seventeen. Bad look for everybody you see as
Speaker 1: a Lions fan. You know what's going on here? They're
Speaker 1: trying to get the number one pick uh next spring.
Speaker 1: None of this makes it for a better league. Why
Speaker 1: not introduce an NBA lottery uh to curb the urge
Speaker 1: to tank before this becomes like a hardcore crisis like
Speaker 1: it did in the NBA. UM. Now, and here's the thing,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to put this out there because I know
Speaker 1: the shadowy league figures don't not many of them actually
Speaker 1: listen to the show. If it's some do maybe, Um,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a slam dunk for the
Speaker 1: league in terms of a promotional Uh. They're always looking
Speaker 1: for ways to stretch out the calendar. If the NFL,
Speaker 1: um wanted to, they could blow this out the week
Speaker 1: after the super Bowl, right, So put it between the
Speaker 1: super Bowl and the combine making a primetime event. You
Speaker 1: have Rich and Irvin and all the whole crew there
Speaker 1: mooch uh to host it, and you have all the
Speaker 1: representatives from the team, just like the NBA does. It's
Speaker 1: a great product. It really is fun to watch. Its exciting,
Speaker 1: as silly as it all is. And um, you kind
Speaker 1: of take over another week of the calendar as a sport.
Speaker 1: And then you also, uh, you give teams less of
Speaker 1: an incentive to not try because you're lowering the odds
Speaker 1: um of getting the first pick. Just being the worst
Speaker 1: team doesn't give you the number one overall pick. I
Speaker 1: think now that we're in a world where it seems
Speaker 1: like every year there is legit um evidence to look
Speaker 1: at certain teams and say they're tanking. I don't think
Speaker 1: that was um the NFL way necessarily way back when,
Speaker 1: when I think the draft in general was a little
Speaker 1: bit more de emphasized. UM. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: great idea UM and and it has value. I still
Speaker 1: think and this will never happen. I would love and
Speaker 1: this is an old Damna check Dave Damnaschek concept, like
Speaker 1: a reverse playoffs where you take the worst four teams
Speaker 1: UM and you pick them up in like a reverse
Speaker 1: a f C n NFC title type game and a
Speaker 1: reverse super Bowl where now you can't the losers get
Speaker 1: the lower draft pick. You if you win that tournament
Speaker 1: of of total Hammond eggers, then you get the number
Speaker 1: one pick. I think that would be excellent television UM
Speaker 1: in a way, uh, you know, amongst with a real
Speaker 1: prize at the end. It's football so unique though, because man,
Speaker 1: it would be hard to like ask these players to
Speaker 1: put themselves out on the line for to get a
Speaker 1: number one pick for a team they're gonna get cut
Speaker 1: from you and also to coach. So I don't think
Speaker 1: you're got I don't think you'd want to add to
Speaker 1: the schedule with that. Um. But I like the lottery
Speaker 1: and I'm not even worried about tanking. I mean, compared
Speaker 1: to the NBA, it's nothing, and I don't think it
Speaker 1: ever will be anything like the NBA uh in terms
Speaker 1: of seating. But I still say why not. I get
Speaker 1: the idea of why the draft is how it is,
Speaker 1: but that was that was back in the fifties for
Speaker 1: parody and stuff. It'll the parody of it all will
Speaker 1: work itself out. If basically you've got to be in
Speaker 1: the top five or six to have a real chance
Speaker 1: to win this lottery, you know, or else your odds
Speaker 1: are infantestimal anyway, So just mix up the top five
Speaker 1: or six. I want to see the randomness. Plenty of
Speaker 1: times doesn't work out. You win the lottery and you'll
Speaker 1: draft um, you know, you'll draft Josh Rosen over Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson or whatever it is. I'm not thinking there's better
Speaker 1: ones at the top of the draft. But it happens
Speaker 1: you draft Sam Darnald over you know. It's like you
Speaker 1: don't you don't know what's gonna happen. Anyways, I think
Speaker 1: it'd be fun Thursday night, February eight pm for the combine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. It's only and just so if maybe people
Speaker 1: aren't familiar with the nb A lottery, the only the
Speaker 1: teams that didn't make the playoffs are involved, So what
Speaker 1: is that teams? And if you were seven and nine,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have like a point five percent chance, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta really be towards the end to have much
Speaker 1: of a chance. And the NBA has made different things
Speaker 1: to uh to continue to try to um make teams
Speaker 1: not completely give up. So now it's the way it's
Speaker 1: set up now is the lottery is only for the
Speaker 1: top four picks, and then starting with pick five that
Speaker 1: goes to it reverts to worst record starting to pick five,
Speaker 1: but top four now is the teams with the top
Speaker 1: the worst four records all have the equal chance of
Speaker 1: getting the number one overall pick. So they just it
Speaker 1: used to be um the team with the worst record
Speaker 1: had chance. Wait, and it was and it was too
Speaker 1: it was too much of an incentive for teams to
Speaker 1: still tanks. So now they've balanced that out and it's
Speaker 1: basically the bottom four teams all have I think a
Speaker 1: ten percent chance, and like Greg said, the team that
Speaker 1: went eight and eight missed the playoffs as like a
Speaker 1: point eight or one percent chance of getting the first
Speaker 1: overall pick. Anyway, it's gonna happen. The NFL is gonna
Speaker 1: make a ton of money off it, and it might
Speaker 1: make for a better product. That's my feeling. I will
Speaker 1: annoy the NBA to to no end. It's like you've
Speaker 1: taken the one thing that we do that you don't do,
Speaker 1: and now you do it and you get way more
Speaker 1: people watching it. Please, yeah, did you have another one more?
Speaker 1: I would? I do have one here? Um, all right,
Speaker 1: so let's say that you too were suddenly given more
Speaker 1: football knowledge than anyone on earth. Okay, like C three
Speaker 1: p O figure times five hundred, you you have insane
Speaker 1: you Well, it's you can look him up. He's like
Speaker 1: relatively he's he is in popular culture for our popular
Speaker 1: culture man, like a mix of Greg co Sell and
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick upstairs times like thirty and like, let's see,
Speaker 1: it's almost like a superpower. It's like a superpower kind
Speaker 1: of thing. But it's gonna end in one year. It's
Speaker 1: for one calendar year. So I would just ask you,
Speaker 1: like you know you've thought about having this power probably
Speaker 1: at some point. What would you do with it? Would you?
Speaker 1: Would you get the heck out of like your work
Speaker 1: environment and go right like the greatest football book of
Speaker 1: all time? Would you stay on this show? Um? But
Speaker 1: then a year later you'd be like that guy was amazing,
Speaker 1: and then he went back down to his normal processing abilities,
Speaker 1: and we're a lot less amazed. So I'm just sorry.
Speaker 1: What you what would you coach a team? What would
Speaker 1: you do if you had that incredible knowledge? So like,
Speaker 1: would that knowledge allow me to be an ace in
Speaker 1: the stock market or something? No, it's you. You have
Speaker 1: the more football knowledge than and I mean you could
Speaker 1: go it's football knowledge, mostly football. I like marketing ped
Speaker 1: By saying you've probably thought about this before, so you
Speaker 1: know we know where he's coming from. Um, I think
Speaker 1: you know you gave me the idea, And now that
Speaker 1: I think about it, there's almost no way. It's not
Speaker 1: like they I could get hired into the NFL with
Speaker 1: all these this knowledge quickly or anything. The timeline is
Speaker 1: very difficult staying on this show. That's not gonna help
Speaker 1: me that much to you know, have a couple of
Speaker 1: good extra nuggets I do think I would write the
Speaker 1: book because it's like a dream would be to see
Speaker 1: my my book on a shelf in a in a bookstore.
Speaker 1: And if I'm this smart, I could probably could write
Speaker 1: a good one. Maybe it doesn't make me a good writer,
Speaker 1: but I would be motivated. I take the leave of absence,
Speaker 1: and it is kind of a certain type of badass
Speaker 1: writer that like writes one amazing thing and then never
Speaker 1: writes again. I wouldn't try to do a follow up
Speaker 1: because it would stink, because I would lose my cant
Speaker 1: would it just be like, hey, that's the guy who
Speaker 1: wrote the one awesome football buck. That would be a
Speaker 1: good guy to be. I would just kick that. You
Speaker 1: guys on this podcast for a year, and that's that's appealing,
Speaker 1: And then you could then you could leave the show
Speaker 1: after a year and never never had your voice, just
Speaker 1: being me and get things wrong and stuff. But like
Speaker 1: that would just be a fun year and and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if I really need
Speaker 1: anything else. It's kind of a weird superpower. It's it's
Speaker 1: almost useless. But also it will be a fun thing.
Speaker 1: You would try to get on more podcasts, like I
Speaker 1: would to try to get on the Move the Sticks
Speaker 1: podcast to your point and start wiping the floor at
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. It's like he's gonna want you, didn't you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but at least you could surprise him just like, oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't watch that tape of the Saginaw Valley defensive
Speaker 1: tackle like I thought he had, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and just make him look like an idiot. All right.
Speaker 1: Before we go, Ricky, I'm gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Your three favorite sitcoms. Okay, three coming in at number three,
Speaker 1: gotta go fresh, Prince of bel Air coming in at
Speaker 1: number remarkably prepared for this. Yeah, you've gotta sell the
Speaker 1: fact that you're not prepared. Not no, no, I mean
Speaker 1: I did have to look up because there's so many
Speaker 1: good ones, and you have to remember I'm in a
Speaker 1: different you know, I'm not gonna be like oh Seinfeld
Speaker 1: and cheers like really to me every time. Um, Fresh
Speaker 1: Prints is just as old. Yeah it's nineties too, but
Speaker 1: um that's seventies show or broad City, which is like Current,
Speaker 1: which I think is good. You got Parks and Wreck,
Speaker 1: but that's like you gotta to say three you can
Speaker 1: number well, one is sex in the City and I
Speaker 1: will die on that hill. That's funny because you were
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, you're talking about things that were
Speaker 1: too old to appreciate, like you were a baby when
Speaker 1: that show is at its height. Yeah, so you discovered
Speaker 1: it later obviously. Yeah. Through Actually, like college had every
Speaker 1: single DVD set every season. It makes sense because Erica
Speaker 1: is very you know, fascinated, and that's kind of her lane,
Speaker 1: like rich white women, Like that's like her thing. Um My,
Speaker 1: my top three sitcoms, I'm gonna say The Office American
Speaker 1: version seasons. I'm gonna break it down. A lot of
Speaker 1: these sitcoms outlive their usefulness so season, especially seasons two
Speaker 1: and three, but we'll say seasons one through three, Arrested Development. Um,
Speaker 1: seasons one and two I think are like some of
Speaker 1: the funniest TV you'll ever see. But I will say
Speaker 1: the best is the first let's say eight or nine
Speaker 1: seasons of The Simpsons. That's my top three with Seinfeld,
Speaker 1: thirty Rock, Um, maybe Peak always sunny. All in the
Speaker 1: conversation after that, I had not a Simpsons fan, and
Speaker 1: I realized I'm in weird territory because everyone around me
Speaker 1: seems to be UM. I for me, Curb Your Enthusiasm,
Speaker 1: which I'm rewatching, is still awesome. The Larry Sanders Show, um,
Speaker 1: I think that is one of the best shows around. Um.
Speaker 1: If I want to go back a little bit further
Speaker 1: to on a more classic sitcom that I grew up watching,
Speaker 1: I think Family Ties, which I've showed to my kids.
Speaker 1: Family Ties. Is that was your three? You just said
Speaker 1: three that listed twelve things. Number one. No, I put
Speaker 1: Larry Sanders Show number one, Curb two, and Family Ties three.
Speaker 1: But this other one that I used to watch good
Speaker 1: times was awesome. But I don't think that's more like
Speaker 1: classic sitcom stuff than I wouldn't want to watch Cheers
Speaker 1: right now. Really, I mean it holds up fine, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to. But in terms of the impact
Speaker 1: that out of my life, that would have to make
Speaker 1: the list because I just watched it NonStop. But that's
Speaker 1: like the first thing I ever thought of with comedy
Speaker 1: for like five years, from six to eleven or whatever.
Speaker 1: So Cheers makes the list, but they're Cheers holds up
Speaker 1: incredibly well. It holds up. I just mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: like I haven't haven't done it, but the others are
Speaker 1: on your guys list I put Arrested and Curbed as
Speaker 1: my other two. Yeah cheers, yeah cheers. Is UM really
Speaker 1: past the test of time? And I will say, UM
Speaker 1: one off the radar kind of sitcom if if we're
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Speaker 1: it as this guy Forest McNeil that would be challenged
Speaker 1: by his viewers on this like public access show to
Speaker 1: do these feats, these random feats, all very stupid, and
Speaker 1: you would think, okay, that's the premise of the show,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't really that he would do these feats,
Speaker 1: and then the show was kind of like how doing
Speaker 1: these strange things would affect his life, and his life
Speaker 1: just kept on going downhill and he ended up losing
Speaker 1: everything because he was doing this ridiculous great show check
Speaker 1: out review. Great It's coming back, probably won't be good,
Speaker 1: but I like when these shows come back, well it's perilous,
Speaker 1: it will supprest. The development came back terrible, not even
Speaker 1: you know, it just paled in comparison. But watched the
Speaker 1: first couple of seasons Season three, Yeah, all this stuff
Speaker 1: with we've written and they kind of lost a plot
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm watching season three right now, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, this wasn't nearly as good as the
Speaker 1: first two seasons. TV Talk got a whopper of a
Speaker 1: pod here, and maybe we should bring this in for
Speaker 1: a landing no matter what, and it always ends up
Speaker 1: a little a little heavy. Alright, um minutes, we'll be
Speaker 1: back on Friday. On the network side, we are now
Speaker 1: on right after Good Morning Football. Still unclear whether that's
Speaker 1: a good thing or that's one of those things that
Speaker 1: speaking of sitcoms, and all of a sudden, you start
Speaker 1: moving around on the schedule and it's like the higher
Speaker 1: I think it's just there's no there's no NFL now.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, let's have it where NFL now was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you start bouncing around that schedule. You
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Speaker 1: came to us and said, you guys are lightning in
Speaker 1: a bottle um. You're absolutely devastating ratings. So we're putting
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Speaker 1: So uh, check out the network show right after Good
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Speaker 1: next Tuesday. All right, goods up. This is Dana has
Speaker 1: a signing off for Quiet Storm The Old Boss. When
Speaker 1: I was a senior in college, this shows at its
Speaker 1: peak and my girlfriend at the time lived across the hall.
Speaker 1: All the girls would pile into our dorm room because
Speaker 1: we had HBO. My roommate got HBO, which is a
Speaker 1: crazy move in a dorm room, and uh, they all
Speaker 1: watched it together. That's my sex and the City story.
Speaker 1: Girlfriend across the dorm room Hall, though, is that it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good, and it could be bad eventually good and bad.
Speaker 1: It worked out. Dan has a signing off for a
Speaker 1: quiet storm the old boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual Glass.
Speaker 1: What are you, by the way, Ricky? Which are you
Speaker 1: some Antha? I feel like you're Samantha. That is a
Speaker 1: big compliment. Thank you. That's what every girl says, because
Speaker 1: the three suck. It's like, OK, you could be Cynthia
Speaker 1: Nixon and you're you're respectful, you're but it's like you're
Speaker 1: if you're anyone else, it's like it's almost an insult
Speaker 1: to Miranda. Yeah, no one ever wants to be Miranda.
Speaker 1: No one wants to be Charlotte either. She's like not
Speaker 1: sure of herself, want to be you know, Sarah, Jessica Parker.
Speaker 1: But I'm not, you know, so I guess I just
Speaker 1: end up being the Miranda. Nobody wants to be a Miranda.
Speaker 1: All right? Till Tuesday, he'd the call