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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. He's confused by rock Paper scissors.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Dances. I come to from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and Rank Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: You know these. Uh, the way our schedule kind of

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Speaker 1: operates right now is we have usually one of us,

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Speaker 1: or two of us, or maybe even all three of us,

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Speaker 1: have a writing assignment early in the week. Got the

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Speaker 1: pod Tuesday, you got the pod Thursday, You've got the

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Speaker 1: network show Friday. So we're earning our keep around here.

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Speaker 1: But Wednesday for us is kind of a we're quiet day, um,

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Speaker 1: where you're left to your own devices on some level.

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Speaker 1: There there's some pre show prep things to do, but

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Speaker 1: it's kind of an off day for us right now.

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Speaker 1: And uh, with that in mind, Hey doing Mark, Um,

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Speaker 1: let me let me say this. The Sessler Wednesdays. I

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Speaker 1: would say they're on my radar, but that has a

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Speaker 1: negative tone. I I'm I'm into these Sessler Wednesdays. But

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Speaker 1: there is certainly matured, Joe, there is certainly something cooking

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Speaker 1: on these Wednesdays at Sessler manor Um. Yesterday's Yesterday is

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Speaker 1: a perfect example. Um, you were very fired up, um

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Speaker 1: about some internal reports about a return to the office

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Speaker 1: for the NFL. You also had a lot of takes.

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Speaker 1: You had a lot what was that Frank's mazy? You

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Speaker 1: had a lot of takes about our new NFL network

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Speaker 1: program promo that's running, not necessarily positive ones, so just

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Speaker 1: checking in how you doing, Bud. I was highly annoyed, UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when when you get into that world

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Speaker 1: of annoyance to me, you know you probably dig out

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Speaker 1: of it maybe the next morning. But I, um, I am.

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Speaker 1: I do have takes, and I would I would say

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Speaker 1: this anything that I tweeted about, you know, the whole

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Speaker 1: concept of jamming pet people back in one office. And

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Speaker 1: I've I've stayed at these points, so I'm not gonna, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, laboriously pour over them again. UM. Whatever I tweeted, UM,

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Speaker 1: in my annoyance, I would tweet again right now. I

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Speaker 1: happened to notice you had a scorcher. I knowed. I

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Speaker 1: was alerted to that these weren't just in our text threads,

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Speaker 1: that it was on Twitter. And there are a few

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Speaker 1: good ones up. Um railing against going back to work.

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Speaker 1: I definitely am worried about the people who you know

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Speaker 1: read your tweets and are wondering if they are the

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Speaker 1: ponderous extrovers that come up to you. I noticed Adam

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Speaker 1: rank like responded to one of them, and so I

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Speaker 1: think that was his way of showing I'm not one

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Speaker 1: of the ponderous extroverts. Ay, have I you like? You

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Speaker 1: like me? Of course? Of course we love just like

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Speaker 1: a brief like kind of Just to tell you this,

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Speaker 1: this gives you a window into marks Wednesday starts twenty

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Speaker 1: two hours ago. Uh Kelly Holkum on fire right now

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Speaker 1: and NFL network. Does it end well though? Hashtag brown?

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Speaker 1: So I believe a two thousand two playoff game. Everything

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Speaker 1: is cool? You have a Warren Moon tweet and then um,

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Speaker 1: you have you quote tweeted a Forbes story about working

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Speaker 1: from home. A study shows people working from home or

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Speaker 1: having sex, dating, taking naps, and doing side hustles on

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Speaker 1: company time. Mark quick, let's everyone get back into absurd

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Speaker 1: office areas and forced into Machiavellian conversation with people we

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Speaker 1: have no interest in communicating with. There's another text tweet.

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Speaker 1: Get everyone back in these offices pleaded pants and dumb

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Speaker 1: small talk that appeases ponderous extroverts who must dish about

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Speaker 1: themselves sunrise to sunset. Nothing else makes sense. Get back

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Speaker 1: to the way it is. Then a nixt tweet and

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Speaker 1: nice job by the Knicks even in that series against

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Speaker 1: the Hawks. Was I don't know what was hotter in

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Speaker 1: that deleted one that you had to take off because

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Speaker 1: it seemed along the same lines. Was there something? He

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Speaker 1: just thought? Could you know what it was? Actually there

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Speaker 1: was a mistake in it, and I thought, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: I've also I've also like I've I think I've made

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Speaker 1: whatever points I was attempting to make. Um, not that

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Speaker 1: I've convinced anyone, but you know, just doubling down with

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Speaker 1: seemed there's one more fifteen hours ago. You can take

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Speaker 1: all the tea in China and put it in a

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Speaker 1: big brown bag for me, sail right around all the

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Speaker 1: hashtag d G A F don't give up. Also, looking

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Speaker 1: through our group chat of the four of us right now, one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: Mark Roysack that's all that this was about. Dan has

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Speaker 1: for like, you have to let it out because one

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Speaker 1: thing I've learned Mark over the last eight years, like

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Speaker 1: And you know, we love Mark, so it's like we

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Speaker 1: know that when we don't reply to Mark, it's not

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Speaker 1: also note that, like I don't float around with no conscience,

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Speaker 1: like when I when I sent that text that kind

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we love you, buddy, never changed. Please well

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Speaker 1: at it this way. Mark, don't be sad it's over.

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Speaker 1: a lot about a place called Super Duper Weeny in Connecticut, Mark,

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Speaker 1: in the blizzard at old Foxboro Stadium UM in two

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Speaker 1: beat reporter where you've got to You've got to be precision, um,

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Speaker 1: mixed with quickness and facts, and you can't get it

429
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Speaker 1: wrong and you're you're turning that whole thing into much

430
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Speaker 1: for them. And McClain, who has been he's seen everything. UM,

431
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Speaker 1: I love him because he has. When he gets annoyed

432
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Speaker 1: at the Texans will let you know, UM on field stuff,

433
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Speaker 1: but you don't hear a lot of just like endless

434
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Speaker 1: complaining from him. And with this one, it's like it

435
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Speaker 1: stands out is a wrong a wrong done and like

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Speaker 1: I hope you know either A they're that disorganized or

437
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Speaker 1: be they're doing it intentionally to the reporters. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure which of those options I'd like better as a

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Speaker 1: Texans fan. I mean to me, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: total men which is this is a this is an

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Speaker 1: organization that a cleaned out their PR staff and like

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Speaker 1: a very popular one UM replaced it with with nothing

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Speaker 1: of near you know, uh likability according to the people

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Speaker 1: that work with the Texans, and essentially seem to be

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Speaker 1: antaggoning to stick towards the press and towards all of

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Speaker 1: us to cover football. And I just something about the

447
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: whole thing. I think McLean nailed it. It's it's idiotic

448
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Speaker 1: and it's um it's aggressive. In other news, some changes

449
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Speaker 1: to how the NFL handles cut downs, uh this summer.

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Speaker 1: For years, of course, teams were required to trim their

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Speaker 1: ninety men russ there down to seventy five players right

452
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Speaker 1: before the final preseason game. They altered that in two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen when they went straight from ninety to fifty

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Speaker 1: three ahead of Week one. The NFL changed things up

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Speaker 1: with COVID last year, and now the NFL is returning

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Speaker 1: to multiple rounds of cuts. Uh. So by auguste you

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Speaker 1: gotta get to night five by the week later, eighty

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Speaker 1: thirty one of August eighty to fifty three, Greg, you

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Speaker 1: wanted this is the news. I didn't. I didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything but the news this doesn't It will be nice

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Speaker 1: for us on Labor Day weekend. I feel like, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's the same with you guys. But Amica,

463
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Speaker 1: my wife, she knows the NFL schedule now, so she

464
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Speaker 1: knows that the Saturday of Labor Day weekend, we're always

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Speaker 1: getting banged a little bit and we gotta, yeah, I

466
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Speaker 1: write a little column that day with the cutdowns, and

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Speaker 1: like family stuff is on hold until you know, mid

468
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Speaker 1: the late afternoon. So now that's all freed up. So

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Speaker 1: thanks Rogers on Tuesday. That's the day where you're expecting to,

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Speaker 1: you know, dig in and do some work. So I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that very good. Todd Gurley, remember when he was

472
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Speaker 1: the best running back at football. It was like two

473
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Speaker 1: years ago, three years ago. He's been unemployed since his

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Speaker 1: one year deal with the Falcons came to a close.

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Speaker 1: He's getting interest from the Detroit Lions. He is in

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Speaker 1: Detroit today Thursday, post hump Day, to visit the lines.

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Speaker 1: According to ESPN, that would re team Gurley with Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff if it happened. And you know, again we're trying

479
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Speaker 1: to get the fans excited over there in Detroit and

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Speaker 1: read pairing Todd Gurley and Jared Goff five years after

481
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Speaker 1: they were the hot thing. Maybe he won't do it,

482
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Speaker 1: but uh, it's good to see Gurley at least getting

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Speaker 1: the chance to to pitch himself because it's been very

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Speaker 1: quiet for him in this offseason. I you know, I

485
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Speaker 1: was curious if he was going to be interested in

486
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Speaker 1: taking the type of contract that I assume he'll be

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Speaker 1: offered here, which you know, he got six million dollars

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Speaker 1: to play for the Falcons. I thought he really hurt

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Speaker 1: their offense. Last year, I thought he was one of

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Speaker 1: the worst, you know, running backs in the league that

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Speaker 1: got over you know, a hundred touches and took a

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Speaker 1: lot of negative plays and just made a lot of

493
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Speaker 1: mental mistakes that that just seemed to hurt the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: So I assume he's gonna get offered like a one year,

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Speaker 1: two million dollar contract or you know, maybe some incentives,

496
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Speaker 1: but close to the minimum. Is he going to be

497
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Speaker 1: motivated to doing that after making so much money on

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Speaker 1: the guaranteed contract that you're right there, and it's only

499
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Speaker 1: three years ago, less than three years ago. This summer

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Speaker 1: he got the guaranteed money and he partly got it

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Speaker 1: from Brad Holmes, who's their gm uh in Troit. He

502
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Speaker 1: was in Los Angeles, So you see the connection. I

503
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Speaker 1: like that we're ahead of this because I assume he's

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Speaker 1: going to be signed in this contract. I think it's happening.

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Speaker 1: What what I would wonder what he's being told his

506
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Speaker 1: role would be the because you've got DeAndre swift Um.

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Speaker 1: They signed Jamal Williams. They currently have two other players

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Speaker 1: with the last name of Williams who also have the

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Speaker 1: first name, starting with Jay Jonathan Williams, James Williams, They've

510
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Speaker 1: got three other running backs. They have seven guys on

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Speaker 1: the roster right now. And I actually, look, I think

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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams UM was a good signing. I think he's

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Speaker 1: an interesting guy for on third down. And if they

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Speaker 1: think DeAndre Swift is their lead, dude, I know it's

515
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Speaker 1: a root new regime. What what does that leave for

516
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? You need to go fight to make the team,

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Speaker 1: You're right, right. I think it's just like the priority

518
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Speaker 1: you gotta if you're interested, you're keeping your career going,

519
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Speaker 1: come fight. And if he is, you know, a hundred

520
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Speaker 1: percent motivated and stuff. Yeah, like he could outrun Jamal Williams.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see. I don't know. And finally in the news, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned one trope alert earlier in the show. Here

523
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Speaker 1: are some true Vintage's troupe alerts. First out of Green

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Speaker 1: Bay at Jordan Love shows progress during first week of

525
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Speaker 1: O t S. That's that's a big one. This, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like so many things in Green Bay. Um, this

527
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Speaker 1: all happened before. There's a little quarterback by the name

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Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers who people don't remember. Um did not

529
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Speaker 1: play well his first training camp was written about pretty negatively,

530
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Speaker 1: struggled mostly in the preseason, was behind Craig Noll I

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Speaker 1: believe on the depth chart, was number three for his

532
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Speaker 1: rookie year, and people were like, I don't know, this

533
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Speaker 1: Rogers guy might be a bus And then he came

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Speaker 1: in in second training camp and O T s and

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Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh my god, Aaron Rodgers is amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know what They were right in the end. So

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Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't a troup. Maybe Jordan's love is amazing too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the one thing though, is like,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go draft a quarterback in the first round,

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Speaker 1: beyond all the drama that it's stirred up. I mean,

541
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Speaker 1: if he's not going to play all year. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: even active for most games last season. He wasn't even

543
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Speaker 1: the second string quarterback. He saw no snaps, he got

544
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: no experience. It's just like, you're these guys need to play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers situation behind Brett Farve was, if anything,

546
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Speaker 1: unusual for a first round quarterback. But they've created it

547
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Speaker 1: again and maybe he is Aaron Rodgers part two. I

548
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Speaker 1: don't see any evidence that all these O T s

549
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Speaker 1: and mini camps will be good for him, but what

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Speaker 1: if he I mean, I know a lot of receivers

551
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: didn't show up though. That is uh. I don't know

552
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: if it's on my radar, but I find it interesting

553
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Speaker 1: that a lot of the Packers receivers, maybe in a

554
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Speaker 1: bit of loyalty to Aaron Rodgers, didn't show up either.

555
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Speaker 1: And the trope that this is taken from, of course,

556
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Speaker 1: is uh, second year quarterback, the offense is a lot slower.

557
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Speaker 1: Everything is slowed down tight in year two trope alert

558
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: hit it again, Ricky Miami Dolphins head coach, same category

559
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Speaker 1: to a quote, more comfortable heading into two thousand. To

560
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: any one, the game has slowed down for him. He's

561
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Speaker 1: the offense is more familiar to him, and because of that,

562
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Speaker 1: he will be God's gift a quarterbacking in about four months.

563
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's also a new offense. Like Miles Gaskin,

564
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Speaker 1: you know they have that co offensive coordinator set up

565
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Speaker 1: and running back Myles Gaskin said that there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of new wrinkles. I mean, he worked with some of

567
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Speaker 1: these coaches in different places, but um, you know, to us,

568
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Speaker 1: I don't like this for Justin Herbert too, for Tuah

569
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Speaker 1: having to learn a new system and your second in

570
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: the off season where things should be slowing down. He

571
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Speaker 1: also I think that the more notable thing he said

572
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: was that his hip um feels ten times better than

573
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Speaker 1: it did a year ago. Now we spent all last time.

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Speaker 1: That's that's why it's I mean, of course he's absolutely fine,

575
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: couldn't be healthier, but but if it feels ten times better,

576
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Speaker 1: that just was never the case last year. He also

577
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Speaker 1: said he you know, didn't have the comfort with the

578
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Speaker 1: playbook that he would like last year. That he kept

579
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Speaker 1: running plays that he thought probably were doomed to you know, fail,

580
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: but he didn't have the confidence to audible or anything.

581
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Speaker 1: And I do think for guys who play from the neck,

582
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Speaker 1: up um as like one of their big assets. And

583
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Speaker 1: I put in and I keep thinking of Alex Smith

584
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Speaker 1: and Eli Manning for some reason when it comes to

585
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Speaker 1: to U. Both of those guys, I think one a

586
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: lot before the snap and we're absolute disasters as rookies

587
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: because that's the time when you're you're just not gonna

588
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: do that. And Tuah is like that to me. I

589
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: think players like that have a little smaller margin for

590
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: error and they need a little more time. When when

591
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: if if he's gonna be winning before the snap and

592
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: knowing the playbook and all this stuff, Like he doesn't

593
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: have the physical tools that these other guys do, so

594
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: it makes sense if he has a little slower start,

595
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're done. I'm I'm staying optimistic for Tah.

596
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: There is a weird Uh there's a faction in Greg

597
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: just like Uh spoke on it that, Um, you know,

598
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: it's not really nice to say negative things about Toah,

599
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: like everyone is rooting for too. Don't don't be critical

600
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: of his rookie year. He's gonna be Fine's saying that

601
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: he's struggled. I'm just trying to put it into context

602
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: of why it might not why it might have happened.

603
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I think he has a lower ceiling. I'm just saying

604
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: than what you want at a number six quarterback. But

605
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: I think there's reasons to understand why. I understand I

606
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: know what Dan saying, Like, I don't think that we've

607
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: there's a bit of a kid gloves with the media

608
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: with two We get it with everyone like Donald had

609
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: incredible But it's true though, right like we couldn't think

610
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: like no I don't think Baker did. He was on

611
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: people's radar, but he played great, so that that helped.

612
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Speaker 1: There is something about two of that I know, Dan,

613
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Speaker 1: I can't. It's hard to put your finger on I

614
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're saying, though, right, I'm just saying that.

615
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Speaker 1: My larger point is that Brian Flores is an interesting

616
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Speaker 1: position because we had debates about this last season. He

617
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: benched to a multiple times last year for Ryan Fitzpatrick.

618
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick obviously not there anymore. Is Flora is gonna be

619
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: more patient with him in year two that he's his

620
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: hip is four hundred times healthier and he knows the

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Speaker 1: playbook and all this other stuff we're hearing, Or is

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Speaker 1: this a situation where Flores is not necessarily a huge

623
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Speaker 1: fan of this kid and he's he'll pull him again.

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00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: He's got another um solid backup and Jake Brisket back there.

625
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the excitement level of fits or maybe

626
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: the ceiling on a week to week basis, but it's

627
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: not like you have to. It's not Christian Hackenburg back there. UM.

628
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Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see how the season plays

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Speaker 1: out with two uh, if they if they pull him

630
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: at any point for Jake Brisket, it's over to me

631
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Speaker 1: and in their movie Quarterback next year. I mean maybe

632
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: not over for the season or not, but you're you've

633
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: made that. That's what's happening in the news, all right.

634
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Before we get to uh mail bad questions. We wish

635
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: you would have asked us that it's I just want

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Speaker 1: to make sure the listeners understand that I don't have

637
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: an issue with you contributing to the mail bag. Uh,

638
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just sometimes I want you to

639
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Speaker 1: read the tweet a little closer. That's all. Put it

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Speaker 1: on me. Put it on me. You know, it is

641
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Speaker 1: kind of a Greg conceit and it was your idea.

642
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Speaker 1: But I also don't want to make it seem like

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Speaker 1: I'm throwing you under the bus. Greg, And I can't

644
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Speaker 1: believe in the step it up anything, step it up

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Speaker 1: with these questions Before we get to the mail bag, though, Greg,

646
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Speaker 1: you just completed your projected Starters series. You went through

647
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Speaker 1: the whole league and all the rosters, um and so

648
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: check it out at NFL dot com slash projected Starters

649
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Speaker 1: eight divisions. This is it. Eight divisions. They're all like

650
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: this should work as a season preview. I will see you,

651
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Speaker 1: um editor, you know my editor. I'll see you in September. Like,

652
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: I should be good until week one right now? Eight

653
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 1: copy eight articles in two weeks. Forget it, you're good. Yeah,

654
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: you should be able to kind of hit cruise control

655
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Speaker 1: a little bit here. Anyway, before we get to the

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Speaker 1: uh mail bag, how about we put sixty seconds on

657
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Speaker 1: the clock, Greg and you give us some of your

658
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: noteworthy takeaways from your studying of all of these rosters.

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Speaker 1: Do you want more? Plenty? No? Sixties plenty? Alright, I

660
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: can't read my own writing here though. Well, you better

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00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: figure it out because the timer starts now. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you take out the offensive line and quarterback positions in Denver,

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Speaker 1: that's a top five roster. Eleven went upside maybe uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're in their part, but top five roster. Other than that,

665
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, if Frank Clark doesn't rebound, their defensive end

666
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: position is as thin and ugly as any in the league.

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00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: As much as I love the Chargers other than Joey

668
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: Bosa up front, like they can put a lot of

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Speaker 1: attention on Joey Bosa because there's not much going on

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Speaker 1: up front. The Colts are not ascending anymore. And it's

671
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: the first time ever I think Chris ballad the entire

672
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: Bills starters on both offense and defense were on the

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00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: roster last year. So they're very Chiefs like they basically

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00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: they brought it all back to they didn't do too much.

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00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a concern. The Ravens. Uh,

676
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna really need to scheme up the pass rush

677
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: every year. It's like, oh, we don't need offensive linebackers.

678
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: The defensemans, well, our scheme will figure it out. Like

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00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: they are really testing that right now. Uh, the Tech

680
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: or the Titans rather, I like their boomer bust defense.

681
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: I like their defense more than I expected and their

682
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: offense less than I expected. It's fine, got enoughing. You

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Speaker 1: got another one in there, Chamber. I wanted to say

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Speaker 1: the Browns, um I didn't. The Browns like have clearly

685
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Speaker 1: like the best looking offense in the league or one

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Speaker 1: of the top three or four. The defense, though, everyone's

687
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Speaker 1: all excited about and to me, it's like, yeah, that

688
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: could work, or it could be bad again, like line

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Speaker 1: defensive tackles, bad linebacker this question mark, like secondaries all

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Speaker 1: do like maybe they'll be good but they might just

691
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: be bad again. I think the middle of their defense

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Speaker 1: has questions. But I would just say that, um, of

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Speaker 1: all the things that we do, you know when you

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Speaker 1: write for about foot Fall, occasionally you find that sweet

695
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: spot where what you who you are and what you

696
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Speaker 1: want to be about comes as part of the articles.

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Speaker 1: You know, conceit. I think this is the best thing

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Speaker 1: that Gregg does all year. And it's not to denounce

699
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Speaker 1: any of the other stuff, but they You should read

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Speaker 1: these if you are literally anyone, whether you're covering the

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00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: sport or want to just like find out how much

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Speaker 1: these teams have changed the a f C South. One

703
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: particularly reads like a horse a horror novel. I mean,

704
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of problems going on in the the a

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Speaker 1: f C South, and I thought you really highlighted how

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Speaker 1: none of those teams are really growing into something. They

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Speaker 1: have a lot of holes suddenly, especially the Titans, right,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars fans, I think like that was one I didn't

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars fans gotta have some hope here because t

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Speaker 1: Law he's set up for some success. They got pieces

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Speaker 1: they could compete, said eight and a half. Yeah, I said,

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00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: I banged the over and you were that's just felt aggressive.

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Speaker 1: But in that division, yeah, I think there's a there

714
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Speaker 1: is a scenario where that could happen. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it's greater than fifty fifty, but there's a scenario for sure,

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Speaker 1: And I agree with Mark. This is why this is

717
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Speaker 1: certainly right in Greg's happy zone, which is why we

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Speaker 1: gave it exactly sixty seconds in the middle of May

719
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Speaker 1: on our podcast. It feels like maybe a miss, maybe

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Speaker 1: a whiff. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. Some things, you

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Speaker 1: know don't translate as well. I feel like from I

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Speaker 1: don't know the podcast, but you're right, we could use

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Speaker 1: the contents. I feel like that was a it was

724
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Speaker 1: a gimme. I didn't realize you had already finished it.

725
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Speaker 1: Um last one went up today. Yeah, a f C West.

726
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Speaker 1: I am excited about these broncos. I'm now convincing myself

727
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: to route for a Teddy team again. There really is

728
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Speaker 1: like a good looking roster like the UM I'm not

729
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: talking to you about Teddy bridgemar Um, the the idea

730
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Speaker 1: that we're doing a fake mail bag now instead of

731
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: having a more a deeper dive on projecting stars. I

732
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: have some regrets. Maybe let's let's keep the door open here, Mark,

733
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Speaker 1: let's talk about this because Greg seems a little bashful

734
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Speaker 1: about it. But maybe next week we should have some

735
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Speaker 1: type of projected starters type seg that just there's I mean,

736
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Speaker 1: he he gave you, led through it. He gave you

737
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: just like a small little look inside a massive machine

738
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Speaker 1: filled with knowledge and information. So I feel like we're

739
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: not doing, We're not being We're what do they say,

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Speaker 1: don't look a gift horse in the mouth, which is

741
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: just a strange saying. That's what we're doing right now.

742
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: We're going to have a projected starters episode next week.

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Speaker 1: Take out with that gift horse. Give it a sloppy one,

744
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, right? The what is it is? It was

745
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: there a time when people were giving horses to each

746
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Speaker 1: other left and right. It feels kind of upper crust

747
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: action to me, right, I think, Yeah, I mean in

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, perhaps a little here's a little uh yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: would you like this gift horse? No, thank you. I

750
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Speaker 1: appreciate the sentiment. It's a nice looking horse, horse, this

751
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: gift horse. But thanks, but no things. I'm good. I

752
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: don't know the thing that was happening. Yeah, people don't

753
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Speaker 1: do that's a horse. But why I like the look

754
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Speaker 1: in the in the mouth. What is that? I don't know.

755
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Maybe examining it's um, you know, you figured it out.

756
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: There is the sartist. But we work hard and eventually

757
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Speaker 1: we get there. That's it. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

758
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Speaker 1: So basically, if you're kind of digging into the oral

759
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: scenario here with the horse, um, you are perhaps over. Yeah,

760
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Speaker 1: take the gift, just take doesn't to have perfect chompers,

761
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, fix it up a little, you know, just

762
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: take it. The idiom itself probably stems from the practice

763
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Speaker 1: of determining a horse's age from looking at its teeth.

764
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Speaker 1: It would be rude to receive a horse for your

765
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Speaker 1: birthday and immediately examine its mouth in front of the

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Speaker 1: person who gave it, as if you were trying to

767
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Speaker 1: figure out the value of your gift. That it happened

768
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Speaker 1: to me a lot as a kid. Right. Erica is

769
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: from that upper Crestrohot Island society. That's the same as

770
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: if if somebody sent you some type of electronic or

771
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: whatever it is, um, and the first thing you do

772
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Speaker 1: is you pick up your phone and look it up

773
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Speaker 1: on Amazon. I don't do that good really help mail,

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Speaker 1: help sell it to the jen Z. No, forget about Millennia.

775
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: It's not about millennials anymore so the gen Z ears.

776
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Speaker 1: It's a rough and tumble crowd, that gen Z crowd.

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Speaker 1: From what I'm understanding, Hey, Ricky, I feel like, um this, Um,

778
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: what's your name? Olivia Rodrigo. Rodrigo's right up your alley.

779
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: I feel like she's all you're all about her. She's

780
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift sort of sound with a little bit

781
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: of Lord thrown in there. It's it's pretty good. Yeah,

782
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: I I I'm into it. I'm not as into it.

783
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm a little you know, definitely going back

784
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: through my high school years, like you know, I'm like

785
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: the Jamie Lee Curtis and Freaky Friday, like trying to

786
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: be in a rock band vibe. You know, Yeah, it's there.

787
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Speaker 1: It's good. It's like when all of a sudden, Ashley

788
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Simpson was a punk rocker and it was like, well,

789
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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna give you that for a

790
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: little bit. If you're a little bit older. Um, she

791
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: gives me vibes like when Atlantis Morrissette came out in

792
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. What made her cool was like she

793
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: was not only this young singer songwriter that came out

794
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: of nowhere. She had like a little bit of an

795
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: edge to her, like she's saying about things that you

796
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: usually didn't hear about, to use some salty language and

797
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: that kind of you. I think that up to cred

798
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Speaker 1: I I don't want to say Olivia Rodrigo is a

799
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: product because people say she's kind of legitimately talented, but

800
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: it seems like she's studied a lot of this stuff

801
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: for people with her study different but that's okay. She's

802
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: a she's a pop star and he's supposed to figure

803
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: out and has like crazy, crazy smash hits coming off this.

804
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: You know, I caught Greg he didn't realize his camera

805
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: was on, but he like singing and dancing in a

806
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: driver's license and like crying. It was like really uncomfortable.

807
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: It's solid. It's definitely solid, all right, let's get it.

808
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: It's it's tricky, especially once you get into the age

809
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: range where in she's she's kind of an exciting new

810
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: artist that people are talking about and it's like should

811
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Speaker 1: I be listening? Like it though, like she loved They

812
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Love BTS two, Like they'll like it, So it's a

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00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: good satisfy. I'll be satisfied, like it's it's better than

814
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: kids music, so I'll take it. I like it. I

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Speaker 1: don't have a daughter, and I'm not going to have

816
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: a daughter, um, which is a minor point of contention

817
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: in my marriage. But ultimately I don't hold the cards

818
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: in that realm. So this is what it is. But

819
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Speaker 1: I do have I think one advantage I would imagine

820
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: of having a daughter is that you get to kind

821
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: of experience all sides of the pop spectrum as they

822
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Speaker 1: get older, which I find interesting. If they're into music. Yeah,

823
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: I've got to say Walker is more into it and

824
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: dancing around then than E's sure. All right, let's get

825
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: into the fake mail bag. Sixty seconds. I'm projected starters,

826
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Speaker 1: fake mail bag. Here we go, Greg, you get us

827
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: going all right, and you know I'm chinking. What do

828
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: I want to know from you? Too? Oh yeah? So

829
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: we're basically just no, there's a lot, there's uh, you're

830
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: making up a question the other two people have to

831
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: answer and Ricky jump. In this scenario, your fandom of

832
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: the Jets and Browns will be wiped from your your brain.

833
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: You're not gonna miss them. You have no residual fandom

834
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: left over. It's just like a blank spot. But you

835
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: are waking up today and you do love football just

836
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: as much, and you are choosing a team to root

837
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: for that you hope is you know, last the rest

838
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: of your life, and it's starting right now. And which

839
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: which team do you root for? I'm probably I'm probably

840
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: picking the Rams. There. There's a lot of complications, um

841
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: when you move across the country and kind of start

842
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: your life over, and you have all the of stuff

843
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: that you were born into and you grew up loving.

844
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Speaker 1: And for me, one of the tough things about being

845
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: away from New York for the past decade is, like you, like,

846
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Speaker 1: I use the Knicks as the example, like such an

847
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: exciting time in New York sports, and I just feel

848
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: disconnected from it. Um So, even though I love watching

849
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Yankees, and I love the Jets obviously,

850
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: um it would be just easier and cleaner if I

851
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: were back in the home market. And and especially I

852
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: have now to young sons, and it's a little bit

853
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: of a conflict about you know, how do they who

854
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: do they support? How hard do I push or do

855
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: I not push at all about who I root for

856
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I'll just wake up one day and

857
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: be a RMS fan and then if they're Chargers fans,

858
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: that's cool too, and that's it. So that's me stay

859
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: in the l a market old school style that is

860
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: very um altruistic of you and thinking about everyone else's

861
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: needs and wants I I don't have. I'm not able

862
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: to do that on this front, I would Greg. So, dude,

863
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: did I have the same did I grow up in

864
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: the same places? Do you know what? Did I listen

865
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: to w f A and all that other business. If

866
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, yeah, yeah, it's just like somehow

867
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: your fandom was was wiped and all the memories. So

868
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: in theory like this would be hard to get to.

869
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: You could even like the Ravens because you don't even

870
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: know that they were the rival of your own team.

871
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: You have no you have no history. But yeah, you're

872
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: choosing a team now from scratch, all right, I would go,

873
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, I gave a second thought to the Steelers

874
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: just because I think I'd be attracted to um long,

875
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: long running historical franchises that you know, know what they're doing.

876
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: Because the time is short. I don't have twenty years

877
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: to put up with an organization that's you know, riff

878
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: raff and mentally confused. Um. But I I am going

879
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: to pick the New York Giants, UM, with the hope

880
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: that they get back to those ways. That's just the

881
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: team that I think has always been my second favorite team. UM,

882
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: and my heart would go there. That's the first thing

883
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: that came to mind. I didn't come up with an

884
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: answer here, but uh, I probably just think short, short

885
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: ish term and go Chargers because they have Herbert and

886
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs with Mahomes or Ravens with Lamar would be probably

887
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: two and three. But since the Charges are here and

888
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: they have the quarterback, yeah, that would probably win the tiebreaker.

889
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: What about you, Ricky, I'm not I'm not some you

890
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: know Turncote Patriots or well you don't you don't have

891
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: that now. I feel like you would wake up and

892
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: still be a Patriots fan. WHOA where am I helicopter

893
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: like going over the vineyard and they just say something

894
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: was wicked annoying before the show, which I haven't heard

895
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: since the senior year at Minnichag Regional in Western Massachusetts.

896
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Mean it is it is legitimately a new team because

897
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: they're going to not win for the next twenty years,

898
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: so you would be having a very different experience as

899
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. Now I think I think, Um, i'd

900
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: probably pick like some random team that doesn't get like

901
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've always sort of like liked for

902
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: an underdogs, so like I'd probably be like, oh, the

903
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Lions have like a crazy story of like despair, Like

904
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: I'd want to like fight for like I feel bad

905
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: for those tarts of teams, So I'd probably go there.

906
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: It's it's but really before your time. All kidding aside,

907
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: but once upon a time the Patriots were that, all right,

908
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Since it's in a similar vein where it's kind of

909
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: creating a separate timeline and involves fandom, Mark, I have

910
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: one for you here, all right. So I'm gonna give

911
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: you the choice of two doors to walk through here.

912
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: One is the Browns win three super Bowls in the

913
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: next twelve years. That's nice because not only you get

914
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: three rings, it's spread out nice. That's a dozen years.

915
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: That's a nice chunk of your life. Um, and you've

916
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: got two boys there, they're gonna fall in love and

917
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Or you go Mr Destiny. Alright, but

918
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: play this clip in case you forgot about your life.

919
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: This is your house. Those are your children, and Cindy

920
00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: Joe is your wife. Happy birthday, Darling God. Yes, James

921
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: Belushi and Michael Caine as the kind of angelic figure involved.

922
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: And the plot of the movie was this regular Joe

923
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: guy has this huge moment when he's in high school

924
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: with the game on the line, with the like state

925
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: championship on the line of baseball, he strikes out Mike.

926
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: He goes to a bar. He's down in his luck.

927
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: As a grown man, still thinks about that moment and

928
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: how he blew it. Michael Caine gives him a tonic.

929
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: He drinks the tonic, and all of a sudden he

930
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: hit a home run in that moment and it changed

931
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: his entire life. So and then he learned his old

932
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: life was better old blah blah blah awesome. You know

933
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: he he chose Linda Hamilton's over Rene Russo it's a movie. Okay,

934
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: So you mark, you parlay this is your Mr. Destiny moment.

935
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: You parlay that much referenced peewee football career into high

936
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: school stardom. You become a three year starter for a

937
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: respected D three program that includes all conference selection honorable

938
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: mention as a senior. Your pro day, you just wake up.

939
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you wake up and you're just feeling

940
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: good and you're just having a good day. You have

941
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: an awesome pro day, Like I guess this would be

942
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: the Mr. Destiny moment. You just play out of your

943
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: mind in this regional pro day and you end up

944
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: becoming a surprise seventh round pick by some coach who

945
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: values how gritty and gutty you are and all this

946
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: good stuff. You go on to play in parts of

947
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: four seasons in the NFL okay, mostly as a special

948
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: teams guy, but you do finish with twenty seven catches

949
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns in your career. Your football career is

950
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: over by age seven. You kind of bounce around with

951
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: some have nots it. There's no like big super Bowl

952
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: thing or it was very nondescript NFL career, but you

953
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: did bounce around for four years. You made you never

954
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: made more than the league minimum, which by the way,

955
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: sid in the new cb A. But whatever, I guess

956
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna back this up to when you were twenty two.

957
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: So whatever, it's nice money. UM do you take that

958
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: life basically starting over age seven, not a script NFL career,

959
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: but really an awesome sports life, um or current life

960
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: with three super Bowls for the Browns, your favorite football team. Well,

961
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean this is a huge like sliding door snerial

962
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: where I probably, like the children that I think about, Um,

963
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: you know every minute of every day, don't exist because

964
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: I probably would have met someone completely different. Like hide,

965
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: don't hide behinde that, don't hide that. Yeah, keep trying

966
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: to I know what you're saying, because it's almost impossible

967
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: as a parent to think that way. But try to

968
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: keep the kids and stuff you might you might have

969
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: met Simon it like that that's eight years away from

970
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: even meeting Simone anyway, is like a groupie and you

971
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: met her like outside like a hotel or something. It's

972
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: a groupie of a seventh tround pick. I get it. Um,

973
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: look at I mean, I you know, outside of the

974
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: eradication of my actual family, which I will as you say,

975
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: bury that to the side. I'm gonna go, um the Browns, uh,

976
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what. I think that helps a

977
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: lot more people. Um, but it for me, I think,

978
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: like I don't know what i'd be if I were

979
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: an athlete that fizzled out at like age thirty two.

980
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I was like seven. I don't necessarily

981
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: love um the second part of life and the third

982
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: part of life after that. Just knowing myself, UM, I

983
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: would rather have the current structure with a huge I mean,

984
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: you know, with a huge Browns like decade plus um

985
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: coming down the pike. I don't know, is that that's

986
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: my answer? Like maybe I've displeased you with that. But

987
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: what about if um, you and bollsonarios you end up

988
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: with Simone and the boys. I don't know what I

989
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: what am I? So I'm at like, you know, I'm

990
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: out there with my pals telling them about my three

991
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 1: and a half year NFL career from like seventeen years ago.

992
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: I loved playing football to some degree, but I also

993
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: remember um that like these two hour practices. I was

994
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: just sitting there being like, please be over soon. Like

995
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: I you know, I like Charlie's Angels. You gotta love

996
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: the game. You gotta love the But this the Mr.

997
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Destiny thing. You're really talented. You're in the top you know,

998
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: one percent of football players in the country or whatever

999
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: whatever it would be. Two, you're probably join practice more

1000
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: because you're great at football. In this scenario, that makes

1001
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: some sense. I mean, I could tell you that I

1002
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: will take that over the Browns thing if that's what

1003
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: we're looking for, but I think I'd probably just become

1004
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: a total a holt on some level. So I'm definitely

1005
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: not looking for anything. I guess I was a little surprised,

1006
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: but that's good. I mean, you showed out at that

1007
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: Williams College pro day. If you threw in like look

1008
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: at you're a You're a real plucky athlete who also

1009
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: had this huge moment that helped your team win the

1010
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and your career was four years long. That's

1011
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: a little different. I feel kind of Yeah, this will

1012
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: bring you down to earth. Um, there's also choy c

1013
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: which is reality, which is you'll get neither. That's exactly alright, Mark,

1014
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, So um, I'm gonna throw a quick

1015
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: one night you hear or. I noticed that some of you,

1016
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: especially the clown reading this um, absolutely fall in love

1017
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: with various coaches, and we like a ton of them.

1018
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: They totally peter out and don't do what we say.

1019
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: And I can think of a couple off the bat

1020
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: But from where we stand today, I know, Greg, you've

1021
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: done your your coach rankings, your GM rankings. Who is

1022
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the most overrated head coach in the NFL? Mm hmmm active? Active?

1023
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean someone that we're talking about is one of

1024
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: the thirty two head coaches right now. I mean, I

1025
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: would say I don't like going down this road because

1026
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: I feel like he's a bit of a punching bag

1027
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: at times, um, even on this podcast. But you know,

1028
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Gruden in two thousand twenty one, uh, in the fourth

1029
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: year of a million dollar, ten year deal. I don't

1030
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: know if we're supposed to factor in all these elements

1031
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: to it, because if he was a more normal deal,

1032
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: I probably and there weren't the outsized expectations when he

1033
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: came back from his UM time in broadcasting. Um. What

1034
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: was the exact word he used at this point? He

1035
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: gets so much grief. Um. Yeah, that that's the problem.

1036
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: The word overrated, I would I guess I would say Gruned,

1037
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: But he's like, yeah, like you say, he's he gets

1038
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: so much heat now because I think people there's a

1039
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: little bit of enjoyment and seeing him scuffle and the raiders. Um,

1040
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: so maybe he's not overrated. But Cliff Kingsbury is the

1041
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: other one that comes to fun. Yeah, I think that's

1042
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: what we've seen from Cliff Kingsbury on this level really

1043
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: uh to warrant all the hype that he had coming in.

1044
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: So maybe he's the answer for me. Yeah. Similarly, I

1045
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: thought like McCarthy at first, but it's like he's not

1046
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: really rated highly. So you needs someone that that doesn't

1047
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: get a lot of critique, and I didn't think I

1048
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: could come up with one, but then I did. Mike Rabel, Hey,

1049
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: you're a defensive guy, how about have a decent defense

1050
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: once in a while. I know he's like he he

1051
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: everyone likes him, and he's a he uh strikes us

1052
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: cutting figure up there. He's great, his teams have done

1053
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: pretty well, but he is a defensive coach, whereas the

1054
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: sum of the parts on the Titans defense never quite

1055
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: add up. Like he's got good some good players and

1056
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: they always kind of think so I'll go Mike. Something

1057
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: spicy I also like, and I agree that like some

1058
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: of that. No, the reaction to these guys are so

1059
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: fierce now that like it's it is maybe hard to

1060
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: find classically over because McCarthy, I could say but like everyone,

1061
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: Ba McCarthy, here's the thing, McCarthy, here's why he came

1062
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: to mind those because during that like three hour long

1063
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: DAK press conference, Um, how manyton Jerry Jones like and

1064
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: we are here with all wonderful coach We just have

1065
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: a wonderful coaches like Mike McCarthy did nothing last year

1066
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: and he came out of Green Bay with like super

1067
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: low Q rating. So I don't you know, Jerry Jones

1068
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: seems to think he's all the bad ones get fired.

1069
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: That's unfortunately for NFL coaches, it is a it's a

1070
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: tough business. They're all gone. It is a tough business.

1071
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: And it's ultimately about wins and losses and rabel and

1072
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: three seas and twenty nine and nineteen. They have a

1073
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: division title. Uh, they have been to two playoff games.

1074
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: They want a playoff game. Upset went over the Ravens

1075
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: last year. I get it. I guess that. Said that said,

1076
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, um who might feel so,

1077
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: and maybe even some Titans fans out there want to

1078
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: see how this team is without Arthur Smith there this

1079
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: year well, and in a compromise roster on offense too.

1080
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: It's not it's you know, it's not just the defense

1081
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: that might underwhelm you. The sun around Greg, what is

1082
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: the what do they I know, Corey Davis obviously is

1083
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: not there. What else are we? J Smith Smith their

1084
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: death in general? Yeah, just you know, just generally got

1085
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: paid like a superstar. But it's not like he was

1086
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: every I get it. But like now it's like Firk

1087
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: sir and who is it Jeff Swaim or something? That's

1088
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: their two tight ends and their third receivers, Like I

1089
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: don't even know they don't even have a third receiver.

1090
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: They're going to have to sign someone and Reynolds who

1091
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: was the Rams fourth or fifth fourth or severs their second?

1092
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: If they went Julio Jones, that changes things. But I

1093
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: think also just like the environment around Derrick Henry is

1094
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna be tougher, well we would. It took a while

1095
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: for us to go around the room once and now

1096
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go to one. I have some

1097
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: more football, the ones, but I do want to make

1098
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: sure I get this one in because you know, I

1099
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: guess we could start with Dan, but it's for both

1100
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: of you, which is why are you the way that

1101
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: you are? Dan? That's that's a that's a tough one.

1102
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: That's a toughie. I think it's a combination of what

1103
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: what you're born into and then the atmosphere, like what

1104
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: the environment you're around and the experiences in life. I

1105
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: think that's the answer. Yeah, I agree with that. Um.

1106
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: I know that I'm definitely motivated by um slights and

1107
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: past failures two stuff, stuff that from like even eighteen

1108
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: years ago, I could still be ruminating on at times

1109
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: and it will drive me for two weeks now. It's

1110
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: not healthy. I don't think that's the only way. Ago,

1111
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: something that like that got me inside, that was good.

1112
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: I like that's I think that that's something that I

1113
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: had would put us something I could work on potentially. Um.

1114
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: But then you know, although in Dan's defense, like I

1115
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: am sort of convinced after having kids at least my

1116
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: experiences like they were who they were before they can

1117
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: speak for the most part, it's like you couldn't change that.

1118
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: Change that about them being a parent is it's it's

1119
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: a blessing, it's a miracle. It's also it could stress

1120
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: you out when you think out think too much about it.

1121
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Like things that you find are good qualities about yourself

1122
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: bad qualities about yourself, Like some of that is all

1123
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: hardwired into the children. It's pretty heavy if you if

1124
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: you want to think too much about it. So you

1125
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: don't and you just try to teach them well and

1126
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: make them good humans. Um, all right, all right, I'll

1127
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: throw another one out there. Do my Mr Destiny one? Yeah,

1128
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: you did do that one. I don't know. I kind

1129
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: of did a lot of research on this, but now

1130
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't really care what the answer is. I was

1131
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna say, should we do a lottery uh in the

1132
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: NFL instead of the um the do uh? You know,

1133
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: worst record gets the first pick. I mean you come

1134
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: off a season where, um, the Jaguars just lost fifteen

1135
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: straight games to close close the season, including the final

1136
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: four weeks when they were outscored by eighty five points.

1137
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: You have that Eagles Jalen Hurts, Nate Sudfell disaster um

1138
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: in Week seventeen. Bad look for everybody you see as

1139
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: a Lions fan. You know what's going on here? They're

1140
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: trying to get the number one pick uh next spring.

1141
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: None of this makes it for a better league. Why

1142
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: not introduce an NBA lottery uh to curb the urge

1143
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: to tank before this becomes like a hardcore crisis like

1144
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: it did in the NBA. UM. Now, and here's the thing,

1145
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to put this out there because I know

1146
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: the shadowy league figures don't not many of them actually

1147
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: listen to the show. If it's some do maybe, Um,

1148
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: this is a this is a slam dunk for the

1149
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: league in terms of a promotional Uh. They're always looking

1150
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: for ways to stretch out the calendar. If the NFL,

1151
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: um wanted to, they could blow this out the week

1152
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: after the super Bowl, right, So put it between the

1153
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: super Bowl and the combine making a primetime event. You

1154
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: have Rich and Irvin and all the whole crew there

1155
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: mooch uh to host it, and you have all the

1156
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: representatives from the team, just like the NBA does. It's

1157
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: a great product. It really is fun to watch. Its exciting,

1158
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: as silly as it all is. And um, you kind

1159
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: of take over another week of the calendar as a sport.

1160
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: And then you also, uh, you give teams less of

1161
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: an incentive to not try because you're lowering the odds

1162
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: um of getting the first pick. Just being the worst

1163
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: team doesn't give you the number one overall pick. I

1164
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: think now that we're in a world where it seems

1165
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: like every year there is legit um evidence to look

1166
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: at certain teams and say they're tanking. I don't think

1167
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: that was um the NFL way necessarily way back when,

1168
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: when I think the draft in general was a little

1169
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: bit more de emphasized. UM. So I think it's a

1170
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: great idea UM and and it has value. I still

1171
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: think and this will never happen. I would love and

1172
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: this is an old Damna check Dave Damnaschek concept, like

1173
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: a reverse playoffs where you take the worst four teams

1174
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: UM and you pick them up in like a reverse

1175
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: a f C n NFC title type game and a

1176
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: reverse super Bowl where now you can't the losers get

1177
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: the lower draft pick. You if you win that tournament

1178
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: of of total Hammond eggers, then you get the number

1179
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: one pick. I think that would be excellent television UM

1180
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: in a way, uh, you know, amongst with a real

1181
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: prize at the end. It's football so unique though, because man,

1182
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: it would be hard to like ask these players to

1183
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: put themselves out on the line for to get a

1184
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,479
Speaker 1: number one pick for a team they're gonna get cut

1185
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: from you and also to coach. So I don't think

1186
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: you're got I don't think you'd want to add to

1187
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: the schedule with that. Um. But I like the lottery

1188
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not even worried about tanking. I mean, compared

1189
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: to the NBA, it's nothing, and I don't think it

1190
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: ever will be anything like the NBA uh in terms

1191
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: of seating. But I still say why not. I get

1192
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: the idea of why the draft is how it is,

1193
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: but that was that was back in the fifties for

1194
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: parody and stuff. It'll the parody of it all will

1195
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: work itself out. If basically you've got to be in

1196
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: the top five or six to have a real chance

1197
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: to win this lottery, you know, or else your odds

1198
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: are infantestimal anyway, So just mix up the top five

1199
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: or six. I want to see the randomness. Plenty of

1200
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: times doesn't work out. You win the lottery and you'll

1201
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: draft um, you know, you'll draft Josh Rosen over Lamar

1202
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: Jackson or whatever it is. I'm not thinking there's better

1203
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: ones at the top of the draft. But it happens

1204
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: you draft Sam Darnald over you know. It's like you

1205
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: don't you don't know what's gonna happen. Anyways, I think

1206
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: it'd be fun Thursday night, February eight pm for the combine. Yeah,

1207
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: that's good. It's only and just so if maybe people

1208
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: aren't familiar with the nb A lottery, the only the

1209
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: teams that didn't make the playoffs are involved, So what

1210
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: is that teams? And if you were seven and nine,

1211
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna have like a point five percent chance, right,

1212
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: you gotta really be towards the end to have much

1213
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: of a chance. And the NBA has made different things

1214
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: to uh to continue to try to um make teams

1215
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: not completely give up. So now it's the way it's

1216
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: set up now is the lottery is only for the

1217
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: top four picks, and then starting with pick five that

1218
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: goes to it reverts to worst record starting to pick five,

1219
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: but top four now is the teams with the top

1220
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: the worst four records all have the equal chance of

1221
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: getting the number one overall pick. So they just it

1222
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: used to be um the team with the worst record

1223
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: had chance. Wait, and it was and it was too

1224
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: it was too much of an incentive for teams to

1225
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: still tanks. So now they've balanced that out and it's

1226
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: basically the bottom four teams all have I think a

1227
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: ten percent chance, and like Greg said, the team that

1228
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: went eight and eight missed the playoffs as like a

1229
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: point eight or one percent chance of getting the first

1230
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: overall pick. Anyway, it's gonna happen. The NFL is gonna

1231
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: make a ton of money off it, and it might

1232
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: make for a better product. That's my feeling. I will

1233
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: annoy the NBA to to no end. It's like you've

1234
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: taken the one thing that we do that you don't do,

1235
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: and now you do it and you get way more

1236
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: people watching it. Please, yeah, did you have another one more?

1237
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: I would? I do have one here? Um, all right,

1238
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: so let's say that you too were suddenly given more

1239
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: football knowledge than anyone on earth. Okay, like C three

1240
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: p O figure times five hundred, you you have insane

1241
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: you Well, it's you can look him up. He's like

1242
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: relatively he's he is in popular culture for our popular

1243
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: culture man, like a mix of Greg co Sell and

1244
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick upstairs times like thirty and like, let's see,

1245
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: it's almost like a superpower. It's like a superpower kind

1246
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: of thing. But it's gonna end in one year. It's

1247
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: for one calendar year. So I would just ask you,

1248
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: like you know you've thought about having this power probably

1249
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: at some point. What would you do with it? Would you?

1250
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: Would you get the heck out of like your work

1251
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: environment and go right like the greatest football book of

1252
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: all time? Would you stay on this show? Um? But

1253
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: then a year later you'd be like that guy was amazing,

1254
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: and then he went back down to his normal processing abilities,

1255
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: and we're a lot less amazed. So I'm just sorry.

1256
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: What you what would you coach a team? What would

1257
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: you do if you had that incredible knowledge? So like,

1258
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: would that knowledge allow me to be an ace in

1259
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: the stock market or something? No, it's you. You have

1260
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: the more football knowledge than and I mean you could

1261
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: go it's football knowledge, mostly football. I like marketing ped

1262
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: By saying you've probably thought about this before, so you

1263
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: know we know where he's coming from. Um, I think

1264
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: you know you gave me the idea, And now that

1265
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Speaker 1: I think about it, there's almost no way. It's not

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Speaker 1: like they I could get hired into the NFL with

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Speaker 1: all these this knowledge quickly or anything. The timeline is

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Speaker 1: very difficult staying on this show. That's not gonna help

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Speaker 1: me that much to you know, have a couple of

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Speaker 1: good extra nuggets I do think I would write the

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Speaker 1: book because it's like a dream would be to see

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Speaker 1: my my book on a shelf in a in a bookstore.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm this smart, I could probably could write

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Speaker 1: a good one. Maybe it doesn't make me a good writer,

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Speaker 1: but I would be motivated. I take the leave of absence,

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01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: and it is kind of a certain type of badass

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: writer that like writes one amazing thing and then never

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01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: writes again. I wouldn't try to do a follow up

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01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: because it would stink, because I would lose my cant

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01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: would it just be like, hey, that's the guy who

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Speaker 1: wrote the one awesome football buck. That would be a

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: good guy to be. I would just kick that. You

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01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: guys on this podcast for a year, and that's that's appealing,

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01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 1: And then you could then you could leave the show

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: after a year and never never had your voice, just

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Speaker 1: being me and get things wrong and stuff. But like

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Speaker 1: that would just be a fun year and and uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if I really need

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Speaker 1: anything else. It's kind of a weird superpower. It's it's

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Speaker 1: almost useless. But also it will be a fun thing.

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Speaker 1: You would try to get on more podcasts, like I

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: would to try to get on the Move the Sticks

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Speaker 1: podcast to your point and start wiping the floor at

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. It's like he's gonna want you, didn't you. Yeah,

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: but at least you could surprise him just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you didn't watch that tape of the Saginaw Valley defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle like I thought he had, you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and just make him look like an idiot. All right.

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Speaker 1: Before we go, Ricky, I'm gonna ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: Your three favorite sitcoms. Okay, three coming in at number three,

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Speaker 1: gotta go fresh, Prince of bel Air coming in at

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Speaker 1: number remarkably prepared for this. Yeah, you've gotta sell the

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: fact that you're not prepared. Not no, no, I mean

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01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: I did have to look up because there's so many

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: good ones, and you have to remember I'm in a

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01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: different you know, I'm not gonna be like oh Seinfeld

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: and cheers like really to me every time. Um, Fresh

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: Prints is just as old. Yeah it's nineties too, but

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01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 1: um that's seventies show or broad City, which is like Current,

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: which I think is good. You got Parks and Wreck,

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01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: but that's like you gotta to say three you can

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Speaker 1: number well, one is sex in the City and I

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: will die on that hill. That's funny because you were

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, you're talking about things that were

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01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: too old to appreciate, like you were a baby when

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: that show is at its height. Yeah, so you discovered

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: it later obviously. Yeah. Through Actually, like college had every

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01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 1: single DVD set every season. It makes sense because Erica

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01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: is very you know, fascinated, and that's kind of her lane,

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01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 1: like rich white women, Like that's like her thing. Um My,

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Speaker 1: my top three sitcoms, I'm gonna say The Office American

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: version seasons. I'm gonna break it down. A lot of

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Speaker 1: these sitcoms outlive their usefulness so season, especially seasons two

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Speaker 1: and three, but we'll say seasons one through three, Arrested Development. Um,

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Speaker 1: seasons one and two I think are like some of

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Speaker 1: the funniest TV you'll ever see. But I will say

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Speaker 1: the best is the first let's say eight or nine

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Speaker 1: seasons of The Simpsons. That's my top three with Seinfeld,

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Speaker 1: thirty Rock, Um, maybe Peak always sunny. All in the

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Speaker 1: conversation after that, I had not a Simpsons fan, and

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: I realized I'm in weird territory because everyone around me

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Speaker 1: seems to be UM. I for me, Curb Your Enthusiasm,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: which I'm rewatching, is still awesome. The Larry Sanders Show, um,

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01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: I think that is one of the best shows around. Um.

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Speaker 1: If I want to go back a little bit further

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Speaker 1: to on a more classic sitcom that I grew up watching,

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Speaker 1: I think Family Ties, which I've showed to my kids.

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Speaker 1: Family Ties. Is that was your three? You just said

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: three that listed twelve things. Number one. No, I put

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Speaker 1: Larry Sanders Show number one, Curb two, and Family Ties three.

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: But this other one that I used to watch good

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: times was awesome. But I don't think that's more like

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01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: classic sitcom stuff than I wouldn't want to watch Cheers

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01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: right now. Really, I mean it holds up fine, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to. But in terms of the impact

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: that out of my life, that would have to make

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: the list because I just watched it NonStop. But that's

1348
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 1: like the first thing I ever thought of with comedy

1349
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: for like five years, from six to eleven or whatever.

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: So Cheers makes the list, but they're Cheers holds up

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01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: incredibly well. It holds up. I just mean, I'm not

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01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: like I haven't haven't done it, but the others are

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: on your guys list I put Arrested and Curbed as

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01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: my other two. Yeah cheers, yeah cheers. Is UM really

1355
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: past the test of time? And I will say, UM

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: one off the radar kind of sitcom if if we're

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: looking for if you if you want something to discover

1358
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 1: here um check out review Comedy Central Andy Daily. Starting

1359
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 1: it as this guy Forest McNeil that would be challenged

1360
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: by his viewers on this like public access show to

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: do these feats, these random feats, all very stupid, and

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01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: you would think, okay, that's the premise of the show,

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01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: but it wasn't really that he would do these feats,

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: and then the show was kind of like how doing

1365
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: these strange things would affect his life, and his life

1366
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: just kept on going downhill and he ended up losing

1367
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: everything because he was doing this ridiculous great show check

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01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: out review. Great It's coming back, probably won't be good,

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01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: but I like when these shows come back, well it's perilous,

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01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: it will supprest. The development came back terrible, not even

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Speaker 1: you know, it just paled in comparison. But watched the

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Speaker 1: first couple of seasons Season three, Yeah, all this stuff

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01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: with we've written and they kind of lost a plot

1374
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm watching season three right now, and

1375
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, this wasn't nearly as good as the

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01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: first two seasons. TV Talk got a whopper of a

1377
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: pod here, and maybe we should bring this in for

1378
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: a landing no matter what, and it always ends up

1379
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: a little a little heavy. Alright, um minutes, we'll be

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01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: back on Friday. On the network side, we are now

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: on right after Good Morning Football. Still unclear whether that's

1382
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: a good thing or that's one of those things that

1383
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: speaking of sitcoms, and all of a sudden, you start

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: moving around on the schedule and it's like the higher

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: I think it's just there's no there's no NFL now.

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01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: So it's just like, let's have it where NFL now was. Yeah,

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01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you start bouncing around that schedule. You

1388
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: don't know how that well, No one came to it,

1389
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: came to us and said, you guys are lightning in

1390
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: a bottle um. You're absolutely devastating ratings. So we're putting

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: you into this spot for that reason. We're just the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Pretty soon. We got a couple more weeks here, a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks off than maybe back for one and

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Speaker 1: then and then hopefully we're back for the fall. So

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Speaker 1: forget hashtag bring a t N to London? How about

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: forget it half techno, don't forget it. I want that,

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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: give it to me. I don't know if I don't

1398
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: know if the hashtag is gonna help us get there.

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: How about hashtag keep a t N on the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network schedule. It's a little bit of a mouthful there,

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: but that's I think. Yeah, keep eight t N on

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Speaker 1: TV for the fall. How about watch a t on TV.

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Speaker 1: Listeners love that and hear some feedback. We worked hard

1404
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: on that show and when we were very proud of it.

1405
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: So uh, check out the network show right after Good

1406
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: Morning Football on NFL Network and then the podcast returns

1407
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: next Tuesday. All right, goods up. This is Dana has

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Speaker 1: a signing off for Quiet Storm The Old Boss. When

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01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: I was a senior in college, this shows at its

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: peak and my girlfriend at the time lived across the hall.

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01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: All the girls would pile into our dorm room because

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: we had HBO. My roommate got HBO, which is a

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01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: crazy move in a dorm room, and uh, they all

1414
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: watched it together. That's my sex and the City story.

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01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: Girlfriend across the dorm room Hall, though, is that it's good.

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: It's good, and it could be bad eventually good and bad.

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: It worked out. Dan has a signing off for a

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01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: quiet storm the old boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual Glass.

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: What are you, by the way, Ricky? Which are you

1420
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: some Antha? I feel like you're Samantha. That is a

1421
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: big compliment. Thank you. That's what every girl says, because

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,839
Speaker 1: the three suck. It's like, OK, you could be Cynthia

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: Nixon and you're you're respectful, you're but it's like you're

1424
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: if you're anyone else, it's like it's almost an insult

1425
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: to Miranda. Yeah, no one ever wants to be Miranda.

1426
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: No one wants to be Charlotte either. She's like not

1427
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: sure of herself, want to be you know, Sarah, Jessica Parker.

1428
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: But I'm not, you know, so I guess I just

1429
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: end up being the Miranda. Nobody wants to be a Miranda.

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Speaker 1: All right? Till Tuesday, he'd the call