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Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drive with John Osan First and Bryan Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Sexton James Drive Time starts right now. They're all on

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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome in a Jack's Drive Time. Brian

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Speaker 1: Sexton along with John Osier from t I A bank

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Speaker 1: Field in Jacksonville started the work week, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday's the big day when the players returned, ready to

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Speaker 1: go and getting ready for the biggest game of the season,

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Speaker 1: obviously against the Dallas Cowboys. It was always gonna feel

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Speaker 1: that way, John Osier, because the Cowboys are the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: But to be in this thing in December creates an

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Speaker 1: even stronger sense of what a meaningful game this one

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the biggest feeling game since the Patriots

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be Dallas fans there because Dallas, no matter

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be electric and I'm looking forward to. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get right into big things on a Wednesday, and

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Speaker 1: there are some big which will start with the most

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Speaker 1: wonderful time in five years. We go back to December

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Speaker 1: of two thousands. That's pretty good there. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you work with words, good words are your work. But

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Speaker 1: you get it. I mean, it's been a long time

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Speaker 1: since this team has played meaning full games in the

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Speaker 1: month of December, and the head coach didn't necessarily expect

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Speaker 1: that this first year on the job he would see this.

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Speaker 1: He's not exactly shying away from it either. You want

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Speaker 1: to be playing meaningful games, you know, in December and January,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the last two have been for us,

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Speaker 1: have been meaningful obviously with Baltimore Detroit, I should say

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Speaker 1: you know, moving forward, you know, we have the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: this week and and um, you know they're I believe

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Speaker 1: a it's a great opportunity for our you know, for

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Speaker 1: guys to experience these these moments, you know, because we

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Speaker 1: hope one day that you know, if if things go well,

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Speaker 1: and all that. But these are moments that you want

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Speaker 1: to you want to be in and see where your

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Speaker 1: team actually is against really good, you know, really good opponents.

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Speaker 1: Grounded checks in his big thing Number two, The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: have not crossed the hundred yard rushing mark as a

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Speaker 1: the first Sunday of November. Dr Over the last four games,

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Speaker 1: they've averaged only sixty seven yards per game. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: we've talked that this is not going to be a

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Speaker 1: the old days, but the coach would like to see

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Speaker 1: something more than he's getting from the ground game today,

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Speaker 1: you know. Each week again, it's still kind of a

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Speaker 1: to to make changes, right if you want to attack

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Speaker 1: and you do things that way, and um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: big things rounds out with So what now what? I'm

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Speaker 1: still waiting for the T shirt this one, John? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was the quip of the year in

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Speaker 1: if those of you who were here remember, treat both

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Speaker 1: and uh and move on to you know, this week,

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Speaker 1: and there are big things. Hey, I was on the

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Speaker 1: I wonder if you do. Um, when was the last

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Speaker 1: time before two thousand and seventeen that the Jaguars played

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Speaker 1: a meaningful game this late in the season. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: you got it. Mostly they'll forget about that season. Yeah

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Speaker 1: town right now, John, honestly, because everyone is keyed into Sunday. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I've gotten some emails this week because there's always

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Speaker 1: You know, hold your horses and all that. I keep

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Speaker 1: going back to this, You can't control anything in this

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Speaker 1: that interception by Trevor in Denver as sort of the

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Speaker 1: I think that's still a long shot. But what Doug

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Speaker 1: segment of our program. Um, Trevor Lawrence d eleven point

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Speaker 1: for this or that, John II, this or that is uh?

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Speaker 1: struggles when Dak Prescott throws the ball more than forty times.

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Speaker 1: That's been a big issue here and so you know

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Speaker 1: it's the running game has given them that that balance

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Speaker 1: that you know, and not fifty fifty split, but it's

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Speaker 1: taken some of the pressure off Doc having to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball. Brian, what's different about this version of the Cowboy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's been so much talk over twenty five

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Speaker 1: years that they haven't made a Super Bowl. A lot

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Speaker 1: of talented teams. I look at this Dallas team and

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Speaker 1: I can envision it holding up the trophy. Uh, what's

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Speaker 1: different about it that they might enable them to do that?

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Speaker 1: I think, John, it's gonna be about the defense here,

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Speaker 1: I really do. You know. Now, they've got some issues

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Speaker 1: at corner They've got to figure out what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do opposite digs, you know, and you know with with

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph playing Duran Bland, they're trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: some things. This team has lost two of the starting

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Speaker 1: three cornerbacks this year, and so they're trying to replace that.

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Speaker 1: You know. The thing is they've gotten better playing run defense.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a challenge again this week form, but there

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Speaker 1: was some real problems early in the season with perimeter

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Speaker 1: runs and they've kind of shored that up. Losing Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Hankins will hurt them a little bit. Inside. He's done

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Speaker 1: a really, really nice job. But if they're gonna win

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Speaker 1: this thing. It's gonna be about the defense. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be about them because they're gonna play They're gonna play

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Speaker 1: some teams that are are you know, in the playoffs potentially,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Four, the Niners, you know, super physical

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Speaker 1: team that was a problem for them last year. So

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Speaker 1: you know, they have to be they have to be

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Speaker 1: tougher than they were, and I think this defense has

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Speaker 1: shown that they can be tougher. And you know, their

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Speaker 1: ability to rush the passer is really unmatched in the league.

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Speaker 1: You know, if they get you and make you one dimensional,

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Speaker 1: they they they find ways to cause problems. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's something. You know, if as long as they

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Speaker 1: could choke that run, then they're going to find a

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Speaker 1: way to rush the pass. And I think that's the

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Speaker 1: that's the ticket for them potentially, you know, winning that

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Speaker 1: winning that super Bowl you're talking about. All right, two

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Speaker 1: quick questions for you, As I mentioned off the top,

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Speaker 1: nobody watches film like you do, so your impressions of

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence the last month, because I know you spent

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Speaker 1: time looking at the table. Yeah I did, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'll tell you what though, I really

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Speaker 1: like I'm I'm a big fan of Doug Peterson. I

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Speaker 1: go all the way back. Doug and I actually really

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Speaker 1: really close, and you know, he was with us in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay when we won the Super Bowl, and I

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Speaker 1: share great worries with him. And every time that you

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Speaker 1: guys win a cinema text and say congratulations and he

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Speaker 1: gets back with me. I really that's what he needed,

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Speaker 1: you know, That's what Trevor Lawrence needed. He needed some stability,

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Speaker 1: you know, with his with his play caller, with the

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Speaker 1: way he was being coached. Uh you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: you could see the talent. I mean just go back

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Speaker 1: and watch him play. And you know, the thing I

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Speaker 1: was worried about was just the revolving door, the different

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Speaker 1: things that were going on. You know, you didn't want

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Speaker 1: the kid to be ruined. But I'll tell you what, man,

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Speaker 1: his ability to move around in the pocket, his ability

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Speaker 1: to deliver the football, you know, the weapons, the movement

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Speaker 1: that you guys have, the you know, the ability to run,

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Speaker 1: and I just I really do think that it's the

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Speaker 1: best fit for him to have a guy like Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 1: you know, helping him along and developing him. Because you

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Speaker 1: could see it in the way he plays, you really

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Speaker 1: really can and so I'm impressed. I think this is

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Speaker 1: going to be a very difficult game for Dallas to win,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not. And I I just kind of

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Speaker 1: feel like that Jacksonville is on a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a role defensively. And then but you know, with the

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Speaker 1: where the quarterbacks playing, you know that this is this

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Speaker 1: will be a tough, tough test for the Cowboys. And

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Speaker 1: final thought, look, you came to Jacksonville from green Bay,

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Speaker 1: so from one small market to the other. And then

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Speaker 1: of course you went to Dallas, which is America's team

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Speaker 1: and everyone knows that whole story. Um, but you've been

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest proponents of Jacksonville is an NFL market.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you and I've talked about this over over

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Speaker 1: twenty six years. Would you just share your thoughts with

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Speaker 1: our our viewing audience as someone from the biggest of

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Speaker 1: markets and what you think of Jacksonville is in NFL town.

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Speaker 1: First off, round, I loved living in Jacksonville, I really did.

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Speaker 1: I I thought, you know, I grew up in Dallas, Texas,

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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned green Bay, Philadelphia, you know some big places,

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Speaker 1: you know, with Philadelphia and Dallas, of course, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the smallest market there in Green Bay. You know,

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Speaker 1: that was that was a great experience for me. It

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Speaker 1: was all about football, and you know, it wasn't about

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Speaker 1: being you know you you know, there wasn't is glamorous

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Speaker 1: thing about it at all. It was just really about football.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I really appreciate it. What I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it is going to school at l s U and

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Speaker 1: then having the appreciation of having to deal with, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Florida Gator fans and stuff like that, and making

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Speaker 1: those trips from Baton Rouge to Gainsville and stuff. That

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Speaker 1: part of the country loves football, very knowledgeable football fans.

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Speaker 1: I've always been super impressed by the passion that they

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Speaker 1: have for the game and the love of the game.

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Speaker 1: All I think they've ever wanted was to be able

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Speaker 1: to back a team that that's a winner. And I

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Speaker 1: think they've got the stability now. Again, I talked about

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, you know, I think that I think Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: is on the way of building something. I that Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer thing, and I'm gonna be the first one to

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Speaker 1: admit I was completely wrong about Urban Meyer because I've

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Speaker 1: seen the different programs that he was able to build.

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Speaker 1: So I was completely wrong myself as a as a guy,

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Speaker 1: a former football guy. But the fans in Jacksonville deserve

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Speaker 1: deserve more. They deserve to have a winner, you know,

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Speaker 1: because again, those fans are super fans. They were they

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Speaker 1: were great to me when I was there. We had

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Speaker 1: good football teams too, you know that that was something

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Speaker 1: that was always, you know, important. But I just I

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Speaker 1: think ownership there. I think that the coach there, the

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Speaker 1: front office. You know, we'll see how that all plays out.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm a big fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of their of their fans as well,

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Speaker 1: because I think they they're really really passionate and they

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Speaker 1: love the game. A lot of people have heard me

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Speaker 1: or others say that Jacksonville could be the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: of the South. Brian brought Us was the first person

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Speaker 1: to coin that phrase. To me. If I don't connect

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Speaker 1: with you, Merry Christmas, and thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your time, and you're inside on the Cowboys. We're looking

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Speaker 1: forward to a big game on Sunday. Well, thank you guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it and take care of my guys down there.

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Speaker 1: Don't beat up on them too bad or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: You guys are a little bit of a role I hey,

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Speaker 1: I watched the Lions game. I get it, but that

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Speaker 1: that teams go in the right direction. There. You know

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Speaker 1: it'll be It'll be fine again, trust me. But thank you.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays you guys as well. At a long time

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Speaker 1: NFL A executive now with one of five three the

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Speaker 1: fan in Dallas, Brian broads, we'll come back and wrap

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Speaker 1: up Jags drive time on a Wednesday and get you

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Speaker 1: ready for the Cowboys right after this. Well, for nine years,

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Speaker 1: John Os, you're back to wrap it up, um. Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson talked on Monday about how takeaways were the driving

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Speaker 1: factor in success. Right. That's the thing. I think that

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Speaker 1: when you look at the Jaguars and the ability to

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Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys on Sunday, they gotta keep taking the

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Speaker 1: ball away. Yeah, I mean, this is not a great defense,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going to be yet. It's

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Speaker 1: not there yet, personnel wies and I say that, I

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Speaker 1: mean they're not going to shut you down. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be at the top of the league standings. But

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Speaker 1: they have been very, very good at times taking the

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Speaker 1: ball away. And when they've been good at times, uh

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Speaker 1: in that area, that is when they have felt like

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Speaker 1: a very very good defense. Early in the season, you

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Speaker 1: feel like they were on a roll with it. They

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Speaker 1: got four last week. They got some breaks with it. UH.

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Speaker 1: To me, for this team, turnovers are all about taking

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Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunity. They're gonna be there. There's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be a ball in the ground. There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a ball in the air that you can get. If

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Speaker 1: you see them pounding their fists on the ground after

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Speaker 1: not getting one, I think they're in trouble. I think

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Speaker 1: they have to take advantage of the opportunities when they're there.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, all right, we're getting ready to go. Listen

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Speaker 1: to Doug Peterson. Of course, we'll have him here for

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Speaker 1: you on Jaguars dot Com. John Who's in the Ozone

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Speaker 1: podcast this week we're trying to get Cama Robinson. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for confirmation, but we'll see, all right. Stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that one, folks, And thanks to everyone Joe

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Speaker 1: and Brett and the whole crew that makes this show

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Speaker 1: as good as it can be every single episode. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow for Jags Drive Time. Have great Wednesday, everybody,