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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January one. This is Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by the C s I Companies

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Speaker 1: and now founding member of the John Cina Fan Club,

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Speaker 1: Ashlands Sullivan. I was so scared when he was going

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Speaker 1: to say the entire day for that intro is this

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Speaker 1: how JP does this servius all day long? What he's

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Speaker 1: going to say? Joe always has something to kind of

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Speaker 1: get JPS got a little bit, but I was kind

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Speaker 1: of kind of wondering, there, Joe, you forget how to

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Speaker 1: push the buttons. We had a we had a we

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Speaker 1: had a rehearsal before he actually did the real world

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Speaker 1: with some practice, right, Nothing wrong with that. Yo're just

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Speaker 1: saying he's always trying to get I want to say embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: But he's trying to have a little bit of fun

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Speaker 1: with JP, and so we gotta have a little fun back. Yep.

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Speaker 1: It's only fair. It's only fair. You're going to regret this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: The man has the power to turn my my golf,

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Speaker 1: Yes he does, don't test him. Welcome in Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Are this fine program? And yes this is not JP

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Speaker 1: Shaddick Ashland Sullivan and for JP, O well, deserved week

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Speaker 1: of vacation for him. If you have not heard, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have announced Trent Bulky as the new general manager

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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars today. So we have all of that

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Speaker 1: in more coming up on this fine program, as well

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Speaker 1: as John Osier starting off the show with us, and John,

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Speaker 1: I will go to you first. You were listening intensely

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Speaker 1: through that press conference, So what was your reaction, Trent Bulky,

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer check it off the list, general manager, head

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Speaker 1: coach done. First of all, Hello Jeff, Hello Ashland. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: havn't been studio with you in a long time. Good

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Speaker 1: to see you again. Um, kind of see you're right, well,

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Speaker 1: kind of right virtually. Um. I think anybody who watched

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Speaker 1: the presser, it was an unsurprising main theme and the

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Speaker 1: word of the day was alignment, and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Even when they were asked other things, they all came

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Speaker 1: back to this is alignment. When urban Meyer was asked

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Speaker 1: about the importance of Trent having NFL experience, he gave

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Speaker 1: a very quick sentence and then he said, but none

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Speaker 1: of this works if we're not aligned. So it's clear

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Speaker 1: that shot cons shod CON's message that this is a

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Speaker 1: partnership between GM and head coach and they're working together. Transparency,

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Speaker 1: all those buzzwords. You know, I think it's fool as

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Speaker 1: to think that urban Meyer is not going to have

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Speaker 1: major say in personnel. That's always how this works. But

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Speaker 1: it is a partnership in a relationship that is going

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Speaker 1: to be symbiotic. Whatever buzzword you used, that's what I

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Speaker 1: took from it most of all, Jeff, I think I'll

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Speaker 1: show that even though urban Meyer is expected to have

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Speaker 1: that that will happen in this case because Trent Balky

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Speaker 1: obviously has a vast amount of experience in personnel, whereas

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer has typically done it from a recruiting standpoint.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're urban Meyer, you've got to have

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Speaker 1: people number one that you can trust the number two

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Speaker 1: think it's great. I mean, you've got to be aligned,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, I hate to say this, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think that there was alignment here in the past.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. And and uh, for whatever reason, sometimes

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Speaker 1: general manager might think that things should go a certain

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Speaker 1: And if if you're not on the same page, you've

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Speaker 1: general manager and a coach that are on the same page,

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Speaker 1: But he said out of the thirty two teams in

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Speaker 1: have a chance because they're they're not aligned, and uh

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he used that exact word, but

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Speaker 1: Trent Fulky was asked about that both of them reporting

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Speaker 1: going to look like. I'm a resource for coach. That's

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Speaker 1: But in the short time I've been with him, the

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Speaker 1: everything that goes with it. And he certainly as a coach,

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Speaker 1: you know, he knows his way around the practice field

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Speaker 1: very well. Urban Meyers did mention that he has spent

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Speaker 1: tiresly amounts of time with Trent Paulki these past few days.

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Speaker 1: They have seen a lot of each other and John,

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Speaker 1: I'll go to you. It's kind of it's different. This

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Speaker 1: year has been different. But that was the first time

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Speaker 1: I've seen Trent Bulky heard from trump Bulky. He's been

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Speaker 1: our introductory press conference, even though he's been here a while. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly an unusual situation. You know, people covering the

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Speaker 1: big one is the Trent Bawkey and urban Meyer are

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Speaker 1: a line. But I think it's also important to realize

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Speaker 1: Trent Balky's reputation is as a guy who stands firm

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Speaker 1: in his own decisions. He is a guy who with

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Speaker 1: He was general manager of a team that went to

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Speaker 1: players he has insight that urban Meyer needs. This is

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Speaker 1: not a one way street. Although Trent said, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: His voice matters very much in this triangle that they

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Speaker 1: talk about Shod Khan, Trent Balky and Urban Meyer. Trent

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Speaker 1: Balky is a third of that for a reason, he's experienced,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's too. It's also incredibly important with

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Speaker 1: And I don't know exactly ultimately who was responsible, and

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be a little bit more with his own

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Speaker 1: who Trent Baky surrounds himself with, because change is gonna come.

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Speaker 1: Change is coming within the personnel department because and some

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Speaker 1: there will be some adjustments at the staff as as

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Speaker 1: as the off season rolls along. Oh, yes, change is near.

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Speaker 1: And one of the biggest things that will pay attention

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Speaker 1: to this offseason is obviously the NFL Draft. Eleven draft picks,

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Speaker 1: you have five in the first three rounds. So, Trent Bulky,

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Speaker 1: what is the outlook of the NFL draft this year?

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Speaker 1: We're always going to look at the value of a player. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and value matters that it matters in in where in

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Speaker 1: you pay them, how much you pay them in free agency? Uh.

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Speaker 1: Need Uh, We're We're a value based team, not a

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Speaker 1: needs based Well, you always have needs regardless of when

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Speaker 1: is usually the direction you want to go, but yet

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Speaker 1: you have to keep in mind the needs of the

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Speaker 1: organization as well and the team. Yeah, alright, Jeff, I

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Speaker 1: we need a left safety. And I'm making terms up

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Speaker 1: because I don't want to pinpoint anybody. And we need

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Speaker 1: a new Ozone writer. You know you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't. You're just kidding, Johnny, Just kidding, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: just kidding. But my point is is that I think

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Speaker 1: And uh and John, But there are certain positions that

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Speaker 1: and that's saying that that's a reach for certain positions

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Speaker 1: very get go. I've always said, Jeff, there's not a

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Speaker 1: too many good players. And the point being there is

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Speaker 1: need here, we need here, we need you. If if

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Speaker 1: you quote mess up and draft an elite guy at

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Speaker 1: linebacker behind another elite guy linebacker, you know what You've got, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: two elite players. So I'm all best available. I think

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Speaker 1: then yeah, you go with a certain position. But uh,

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Speaker 1: your news flash. Right now, this team doesn't have too

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Speaker 1: many elite players. It's gonna be easy for them to

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Speaker 1: a big theme right now is Urban may never have

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Speaker 1: wants competitiveness, speed. I think it's been really easy for

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Speaker 1: Just only add one thing is that because John was

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Speaker 1: take need. I believe that in you don't do that

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Speaker 1: You have the greatest coach in the world. And if

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Speaker 1: All right, let's look at defense. Joe Colin is reported

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Speaker 1: to be the defensive coordinator for the Jaguars. Were hearing

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Speaker 1: names that you're seeing right now. So John, tell me

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Speaker 1: of course. Oh, I know Jeff has a lot of

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Speaker 1: I knew Joe for two years when I first got

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Speaker 1: back to Jacksonville. Why would he be a coordinator? Because

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Speaker 1: he knows football, He's an incredible motivator. He's incredibly well

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Speaker 1: respected within the NFL. There is a great relationship between

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Speaker 1: he and Urban Meyer that goes back a long way. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm biased, and I think everybody is who

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Speaker 1: knows Joe Aston. You haven't met him, but Jeff can

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Speaker 1: attest to this a fantastic, first rate human being. When

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Speaker 1: you get a guy like this in your building, you're

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Speaker 1: better for it, no matter what role it is. As

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, he's never been that before, but he has

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Speaker 1: been one of the best line coaches he's been in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: He is ready for this job. If he gets that,

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt that he's a major impact, and

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Speaker 1: you got to make sure that we I gotta correct you, John,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't coach defensive line. He coaches rushman. Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: changed the term. I mean, Joe Collin changed the term

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Speaker 1: he likes to call him Rushman. And uh and and

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Speaker 1: John is dead on the money. Joe Colin is a

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Speaker 1: is a eight number one, top notch guy. He's never

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Speaker 1: been a defensive coordinator before. But you also, if you

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Speaker 1: looked at that list of names, there's some names on

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Speaker 1: there that have been defensive coordinators before. Anthony Weaver, Charlie

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Speaker 1: Strong obviously has an immense amount of experience. And so

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Speaker 1: once again, it's title sometimes don't mean everything. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: somebody ultimately has to have to say. But when you

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Speaker 1: get a bunch of bright minds together, then you have

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Speaker 1: a great chance. And and Joe Colin is a is

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Speaker 1: a super sharp guy, quality guy. Love him and uh.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when I heard that there was a rumor

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Speaker 1: he may be interviewing, I was texting him right away.

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Speaker 1: I said, Joe, come on back to Jacksonville. Good dude,

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Speaker 1: gave him outfit tips all of that. What am I hearing? John?

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Speaker 1: I guess you can attest this to you. I've heard

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Speaker 1: of practice. Might get a little loud if he joins in,

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Speaker 1: he's pretty loud. Yeah, Joe's pretty loud, and we'll probably

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Speaker 1: get the dirt pitt back. Remember the dirt pit, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: where you probably knew more about than I did. But

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Speaker 1: he's got certain drills, and he's got a drill or

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Speaker 1: the offensive linemen have to get down. It could be

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Speaker 1: at a certain level. Jeff can attest to it more

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Speaker 1: than me. But yeah, I read something about Joe a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and I didn't think of it,

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Speaker 1: and I wish I had. When you watch Joe Colin coach,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the few coaches where other position groups

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Speaker 1: stop and watch him coach because he's so good at

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Speaker 1: it and so dynamic. I again, Jeff, and you and

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Speaker 1: I are in the same page fingers crossed that he's

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Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah. Uh, I think it'd be a good

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Speaker 1: higher And in Ashley, I'm telling you there's been a

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Speaker 1: few guys in the National Football League, And being a

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Speaker 1: former defensive lineman, I always watched the defensive line coaches

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Speaker 1: very very closely. And because I want to hear what

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Speaker 1: they're saying, I want to hear their style, I want

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Speaker 1: educated in that department. And uh, and Joe is one

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Speaker 1: I'm like he's dead on the money. And Joe was

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Speaker 1: always one of those guys too, that would would ask

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions. He never felt like he knew everything.

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Speaker 1: And if he would ask questions of me, he would

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Speaker 1: He would talk to Tony bassally and say, Hey, Tony,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about this? What was so hard

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Speaker 1: I think it was constantly learning and uh. And I

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Speaker 1: know that a lot of people want to bring up

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Speaker 1: something that might have happened in his past. But I

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Speaker 1: can tell you if we all had something brought up

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Speaker 1: an embarrassing moment in the past, and I would have one, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: you would probab have one. And I can tell you

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Speaker 1: firsthand that that ponytail wasn't very cool, even though you

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Speaker 1: the past of the past, and Joe Collins are good man.

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Speaker 1: I love to hear it. Yes, john thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time and we'll leave you to the debating the

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Speaker 1: ponytail versus the haircut you have. Now we'll stay tuned

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Speaker 1: for your writing. Like the beer Johnny's got going out, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I like that. Hey, there was no debate, Jeff, that

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Speaker 1: ponytail was Boss. It was like it was like this,

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Speaker 1: thanks guys, I've heard, I've seen pictures. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to bring him back up. I'm just scared that John

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Speaker 1: Oshan just said Boss on the radio, that that's like old.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's like shows your age, right, Boss. It

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Speaker 1: was more of a bun, like a bun Joe, even worse,

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Speaker 1: even like a little Yeah, it was like that long

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy I will spare you the images of John

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Speaker 1: Osier's man bun pony sale coming out, Boss, County Tail. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thing is for sure. I mean it is a splash

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00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: higher um, and it's big news and it's a in

638
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: They shot Khan went after irber Meyer. He got him. Um.

639
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: He wanted to get a guy who's led been a

640
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: bona fide qualified top end leader. Now it's in the

641
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: college game, not the pro game, but still he's one

642
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: everywhere he's been. And Shot is basically saying, listen, I'm

643
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: gonna get a guy here who can lead this organization

644
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: and bring it back, and I'm gonna bring a guy

645
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: who's done it before. It might not be in this

646
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: exact arena, meaning the pro game, but it's hard to

647
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: argue that. The guys one everywhere. So, um, it's exciting

648
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of exciting things going on right now. Um,

649
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be an really interesting offseason. We will

650
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: not be short on news this offseason, that's one thing

651
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: for sure. Yes, and that is good news for this

652
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: Thursday show. And Jeff, I've heard some people say, oh,

653
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: he's coming right in here and he has a plan

654
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: of upgrading the facilities, and it was almost a negative

655
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: connotation towards that. But I don't feel that way. He's

656
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: coming from Ohio State, Florida, these big time college football programs,

657
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: Well that's the ms race in college football. If he

658
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: wants a facility, give the man a facility. Well, look,

659
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: it's it's the in college football. The arms race is real.

660
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: And that's facilities Alabama, the Clemsons, I mean, all these

661
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: big time programs. It it is a war of facilities

662
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: because it's a huge recruiting tool. And in the National

663
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: Football League you're not necessarily per se recruiting, but in

664
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: some sense you are in free agency, and so you

665
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: want to have as many as many tools in your toolbags,

666
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: so to speak, as far as positive to tract players.

667
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: But Um, Tony and I would agree that, Look, you

668
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: can always improve the facilities and you always want to

669
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: give the players the best of the best. Does that

670
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: necessarily mean a new facility? Maybe? Does that mean a

671
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: an upgrade to the current facilities? Is that you have

672
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: on an expansion to that? I mean, it could mean

673
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: a lot of things, But I think Urban's whole point

674
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: is give the players the best to expect the best

675
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: in return, right, And that's aar Tony. You heard him

676
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: say in the stock coming back a hot tub. I

677
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's saying in that singular tone, but there's

678
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: no secret this building could use some upgrades. And that's okay. Yeah,

679
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's the right mentality. You want to

680
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: be the best of everything. But I will say for me, Um,

681
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: your facilities are secondary. Um while important and you want

682
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: to have you know, you want to make sure the

683
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: players are taken care of and you're giving them the best.

684
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: To his points because you're to expect the best, Um,

685
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, let's be realistic.

686
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: Facilities aren't. You can't overnight great new facilities. Now you

687
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 1: can upgrade some internal facilities to do you know, put

688
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: some you know, nice finishes around and do some nice things,

689
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: but as far as the hold you know, wholesale new

690
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: facilities and new practice facilities and buildings everything else, that

691
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: takes years. UM. And So while I love it that

692
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: we should always be progressing and shooting for the stars

693
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: and investing and get bringing the best and expecting the best,

694
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, I think the bigger message and

695
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: I think what I've heard him say as well, it's like,

696
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: we're going to create the best atmosphere for the for

697
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: this organization, best coaches. We're gonna demand of the players.

698
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna treat the players the right way. We're to

699
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: do all these things and create the right culture and

700
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: atmosphere with the right standard UM, and we expect to win,

701
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: because if you look at winning, you know what you're

702
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: measured by the wins and losses. It's not you know

703
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: how great your facilities are or not. Um, It's about

704
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: what are you putting on the field, and to put

705
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: the right product on the field which produces wins. It's

706
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: all about getting the right people in the building, and

707
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: that starts with the right players and the right coaches

708
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: and in the right personnel, people that are aligned with

709
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: the coaches to pick the players and design it, and

710
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: the right support staff that is gonna support the coaches

711
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: and players. It's all about getting the right people in

712
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: the right system in place, um of how we do things.

713
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know Urban has done

714
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: in the past, you know, at places like Ohio State

715
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: and Florida, and I expect him to do the same

716
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: thing here. I think the facilities well, yes, nice, Yes,

717
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: I hope we get them. Yes, I hope we invest.

718
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: And I think Shan will he's never been trying to invest.

719
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. UM. To me, that secondary

720
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: it's about getting the right people, the right process, the

721
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: right culture, and setting the right standard of how we

722
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: do things. As Jacksville Jaguars right Tony and his introductory

723
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: interview with JP, Shatterkey said, I want to treat players great,

724
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: not good, and that was good to hear, especially with

725
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: all the drama that's been around with free agency. Jeff,

726
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: you kind of want to set the tone right here

727
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: right now that it's going to be a busy free

728
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: agency period. We're gonna do it the right way. And

729
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he means okay, And and Tony will

730
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: attest to this when when a coach says that we

731
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: want to treat our players great, it doesn't mean that

732
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: you pamper them. Yeah, I mean this is this is

733
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: not the health club or you get manny petties and

734
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: back rubs and neck rubs while you're studying the playbook.

735
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's football. But you want to have

736
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: the players to have the best of the best. And

737
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: I will say this is that shankn in this organization

738
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: has never skimped on making sure that the players have

739
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: the best of the best. The dining hall, the food,

740
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: the best of the best. We get to experience that

741
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: first time they have. Besides therapy, they have all these

742
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: other things that are available to players and readily available

743
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: and have for a number of years, nutritionists, everything. So, uh,

744
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Tony's right, And that look tomorrow, all of a sudden,

745
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a brand new facility out there

746
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: to where you go, welcome to the new facility. You know,

747
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: you gotta win some football games, but treat your players

748
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: the best of the best of what you have and

749
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: in the meantime, if you are looking at upgrading or

750
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: doing something completely separate, that's all fine and Danny, but

751
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: treat the players great, and Peter, treat them with respect,

752
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: but you don't pamper them as well if you treat

753
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: them like professionals. And there's a lot of organizations out

754
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: there in the National Football League that are considered the

755
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: best of the best as far as doing some of that,

756
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: and they're the ones that are typically win a year

757
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: in and year out. So you want to try to

758
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: continue to or to change the way you do things

759
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: more in line with some of the teams that historically

760
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: have success. You're on a eurotum, so let's talk about

761
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: that a little bit more, Jeff, because I want to

762
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: talk about this whole concept of treating players great, um,

763
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: because everything you said is true. You're like, but every

764
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: team can do that. Every team can have massage therapists,

765
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: every team can have good food, and every team can

766
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: have you know, all the you know, nice things that

767
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: help a player get ready, all great things. I don't

768
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: think I think that's only part of it. Because when

769
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: I think about and Jeff, I love your perspective on this.

770
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: When I think about what the players want, and I

771
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: think it's a couple of things. One, players want to

772
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: go somewhere where they know they can get better, like

773
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: like you like, they're gonna become better players and they

774
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: have a chance to succeed because if they succeed, that's

775
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, will translate hopefully too wins, but also translates

776
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: into monetary value of their services in the future. So One,

777
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: players want to go somewhere they feel like they're getting

778
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: better to a big thing, and I think this is critical.

779
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Players want to feel valued. They want to feel their

780
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: services are valued. What they do matters and that's important.

781
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: And the way you do that, you have to be

782
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: able to build relationships with players. They have to know you.

783
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: They have to know that the organization cares about what

784
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: they're doing, who they are in the sacrifice and the

785
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: work they're putting in that it matters. The third thing

786
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: I think they wanted consistency. I never I'm not a

787
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: big believer that players um are expecting to be treated

788
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: and like you know, there's always this hard coaches, player coaches,

789
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: both of one. What's the one thing both those haven't

790
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: in common is they're consistent. Players want to know what

791
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: to expect. They don't like surprises. They want to know

792
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: what to expect, what the rules are, and that they're enforced,

793
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: and that they show up every day to work and

794
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: there's a consistency with the head coach and the coaching staff,

795
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: and it doesn't change. When you win, everyone's happy. When

796
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: you lose, everyone's miserable. You know, I think back, Jeff,

797
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: when you and I played here. Tom Conflin was consistent.

798
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: Every day. He was miserable every day. It didn't matter

799
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: if you won or loss. It was the same thing.

800
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Hard on you. It was going to drive. But as

801
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: a player, you knew what to expect. There were a structure,

802
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: and you didn't always like the way he did it.

803
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that might work today in today's NFL,

804
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: I think, but if you're consistent, you can build relationships

805
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: to players and they know they're valued and their services

806
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: are valued and you're helping them have success. That is

807
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: creating a great atmosphere for players, because that's what they want.

808
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: The rest of it is easy. It's easy to go

809
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: high a massage therapist, it's easy to go get good food,

810
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: it's easy to do all that. The hard work is

811
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: can you build a culture where players want to be there,

812
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: where they feel valued, they feel appreciated, they have relationships,

813
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: and they feel like they have an opportunity to get

814
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: better and win. That's ultimately what they want to do,

815
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: and they want to get paid. I mean, if you

816
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: can do that, then I think that's a great environment

817
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: for players. Yeah. I think the other thing too, that

818
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville has kind of a built in advantage. I

819
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: think over a lot of their teams, Tony talks about money,

820
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: cost of living and uh and and what the state

821
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: tax situation is. I mean, obviously that provides a huge boost.

822
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: But the ability to attract coaches to Jacksonville is easy

823
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: because coaches love it here, and so Urbans is able

824
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: to attract a lot of coaches that that that I'm

825
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: sure that he wants because of the prospect of living

826
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. I mean, look at the number of coaches

827
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: that have come through here that have stayed here. I

828
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: mean it's it's the list is long and so and

829
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: I think from that standpoint to for some players that

830
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: that is very attractive to some players as well. And

831
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: there's some players that would rather have in Atlanta or

832
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: have in New York or have some of bigger markets

833
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: and and for whatever reason, but uh, if you if

834
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: you can capitalize on all the things that Tony talked

835
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 1: about and make sure that all those are in place,

836
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: because Tony is right, consistency and expectations, all knowing what

837
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: what a player is expected to do in et cetera.

838
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: Like Tom Couflin said about it, it is that doesn't change.

839
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: You just don't have to be so dagon gruff about

840
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: it like Tom Caufin. And that's the relationships your face

841
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: and still be the same way. Well, I think in

842
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: today's players and even in our world today, you have

843
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: to be able to build a relationship with people. People

844
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: will go much further for you when they know you

845
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: care about them. Um. And you, by the way, you

846
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: can coach people much harder when they know you care

847
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: and you know you they that they're appreciated. And I

848
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,800
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869
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Speaker 1: love it, and if not, it's my job to eliminate

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Speaker 1: those people from this organization. And that's I take that

971
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Speaker 1: very serious that I've taken that. When I was a

972
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973
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975
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Speaker 1: blame the players. I I hear that. You guys know

976
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Speaker 1: that I don't blame players. I blame coaches before players.

977
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Speaker 1: But you know, just when you see that Jaguar album,

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Speaker 1: If this this city of Jacksonville, when they see that

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go. That's that's I can see a fast team.

982
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Speaker 1: I see people who care deeply about that organization. And

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Speaker 1: the two things I always talk about are that inspire

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986
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Speaker 1: do that, you can't. You really can't be here. And

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988
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Speaker 1: Happy our Ashlyn Sullivan, Jeff Logerman, and Tony BASSELLI here

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Speaker 1: to you first with this first point, what do you

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Speaker 1: do with left tackle? You're most likely I'll take that back.

995
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Speaker 1: You are drafting a quarterback with the number one overall picks.

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00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: So do you re sign Cam Robinson? What are we

997
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Speaker 1: doing here, Tony? I mean, if you look at if

998
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Speaker 1: you look at Cam, uh, Cam Robinson, he is he

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Speaker 1: had an up and down year. At times he looked

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Speaker 1: very good. It looked like he made big improvements, his

1001
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Speaker 1: footwork look better. At other times there was some inconsistency

1002
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Speaker 1: and inconsistent a big game, at big times of games

1003
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: that you have a chance to maybe do something. UM.

1004
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: And so I think you have to look at what

1005
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Speaker 1: the value is. UM. It's it's obviously a premiere position.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line you have to build, especially with the

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Speaker 1: young quarterback and protect that guy. Um. You can't win

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Speaker 1: football games without a quarterback, which you can't win football

1009
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Speaker 1: games without control the line of scrimmage either. So, UM,

1010
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Speaker 1: premier left I mean I'm not gonna say premier. Um.

1011
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: Good left tackles are getting seventeen million dollars a year, UM,

1012
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Speaker 1: with a lot of million dollars guaranteed. Um, you're gonna

1013
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Speaker 1: have some cap issues this year, not the Jaguars, but overall,

1014
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Speaker 1: the NFL cap most likely gonna stay flat or go

1015
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Speaker 1: down because of COVID. You have a lot of room

1016
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Speaker 1: if you're the Jacksville Jaguars, and so I think what

1017
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Speaker 1: you do is you have to allocate. The first thing

1018
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Speaker 1: you do is you say how much work? What value

1019
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: do we put on Cam Robinson? And before we start

1020
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Speaker 1: having conversations with him, let's put a value of like,

1021
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Speaker 1: what are we comfortable with paying for this position based

1022
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Speaker 1: on the play that we got last year and what

1023
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: we are projecting we think he can be. UM. And

1024
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Speaker 1: then you have to go start looking in the out

1025
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Speaker 1: in the out in the free agent market, Um, what

1026
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Speaker 1: what does it look like and what is going to

1027
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Speaker 1: happen and what our team is gonna have to do

1028
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Speaker 1: based on cap pressure? Uh, and what is happening and

1029
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Speaker 1: getting understanding what's out in the free agent market. And

1030
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Speaker 1: then finally you look at the draft and you know

1031
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Speaker 1: you're gonna pick in twenty five. You know you have

1032
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Speaker 1: a list of needs. You have to rank those needs

1033
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Speaker 1: based on how you're building your team and what who

1034
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1035
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Speaker 1: And then you weigh all of that and then you

1040
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Speaker 1: make a decision of how aggressive you're gonna be with

1041
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Speaker 1: came Robinson. So I don't think it's a decision you

1042
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Speaker 1: make in a vacuum um as Yes, it's not a

1043
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1045
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1046
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Speaker 1: you keep them or not. And part of that is

1047
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Speaker 1: is the unknown. What's the expectation of Cam Robinson and

1048
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Speaker 1: this camp financially? I mean, if they all sudden say hey,

1049
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: look we want twenty million a year an you're not

1050
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Speaker 1: gonna say yeah, sure, you know we need to love

1051
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Speaker 1: t Yeah you say goodbye. I mean, so you know,

1052
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Speaker 1: a lot of this is is kind of bid. What

1053
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Speaker 1: would you would tag under the TBD to be determined,

1054
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Speaker 1: because you've got to find out where they are, where

1055
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1056
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Speaker 1: thoughts are with the new eli managed from the new

1057
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1058
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: got new eyes looking at you now, and those new

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Speaker 1: eyes may have a different opinion of vastly different opinion

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Speaker 1: than what the eyes were looking at that position before.

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Speaker 1: So well, it's not all new eyes, Jeff. I mean

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Speaker 1: Trent Balkey has been looking at this roster for a

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Speaker 1: year now. Um. Now maybe you know he now has

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Speaker 1: a greater say than he did before. So you know,

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00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: existing eyes with new roles and new level of influence. Um,

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what that he does, Trent

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Speaker 1: does with the personnel department, if there's changes there to

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Speaker 1: get fresh eyes in the process. The reason I bring

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Speaker 1: that up, Tony, is that when you when you have

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Speaker 1: a new set of eyes looking at someone. The reason

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Speaker 1: I say that, for example, Cam Robinson is not Trent

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Speaker 1: Balky's draft pick. Okay, that's right. That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: That changes things because now you're looking at it without

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Speaker 1: your own personal glasses because you have a benefit of

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: retaining or paying a player that you drafted. The people

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: that are making the call now they have no tie,

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00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: they have no tie to any past Jaguars draft picks.

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00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Now it's all about evaluation based on production and expected

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: level of production, so that stuff will change, I think

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00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: as we move forward. I agree. Yep, great, great points.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony Boselli, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your off season wherever you may be. Hopefully a vacation,

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00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: a break coming soon for you. That is Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: our stay tuned for the next hour coming up right

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Speaker 1: here five o'clock. Appreciate you joining us right here on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com Life. Yea, the focus is always on

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00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: the draft and building your team through the draft. I

1088
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: think you used the other avenues to supplement your roster,

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: whether that's in big name free agents, uh, mid mid

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00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: tier free agents, or low end free I think you're

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00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: always searching to build your roster, whether it's from the

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00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: top down or the bottom up, or somewhere in the middle. Uh.

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00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: You your goal is to get the best fifty three

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: players you possibly can and go to work. I'm a

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: resource for coach. That's what the way I look at it.

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00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: I provide a service where he can come in, he

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00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: can boast things off of me. Question because there's gonna

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00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: be a lot of questions. There's gonna be a lot

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00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: of things that are gonna be first time for him.

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Speaker 1: But in the short time I've been with him, the

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: one thing I realized, he's a quick study. It's not

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00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: gonna take him long to figure the rules out and

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: everything that goes with it. And he certainly as a coach,

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00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, he knows his way around the practice field

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Speaker 1: very well. This is Jaguars Happy Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman

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Speaker 1: and JP Shadrick provide the latest Jaguars news and what's

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Speaker 1: happening around the NFL J beacons right now. Welcome in

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour Askelan Sullivan and for JP shatter g

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Speaker 1: a much needed vacation for him, wishing him lots of

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Speaker 1: fun and relaxation. Here with Jeff Logman on Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: If you have not heard big news of the day,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have announced Trent Bulky is a new general

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Speaker 1: manager of the Jaguars. Are going to break that down

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Speaker 1: along with Bucky Brooks coming up right here on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. So, Jeff, initial thoughts and initial reaction from

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Speaker 1: Trent Bulky being the new general manager. I've been told

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Speaker 1: that he's definitely a leader, definitely strongheaded, likes things his way.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how this goes now with

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, this is his show to run with the

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Speaker 1: help of Trent Bulky. Well, I think first and foremo

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Speaker 1: so you say strong headed. Who if somebody's good, uh

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Speaker 1: and believes in what they do, they should be strong headed.

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Speaker 1: And I like the fact that they got somebody that

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Speaker 1: has experience at being a general manager in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, because I think having experience is going to

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Speaker 1: help a coach for the first time that he's been

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, like like an Urban buyer.

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Speaker 1: So and I don't think there's any uh freak occurrence

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Speaker 1: that Trent Balky was brought into this organization back in

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Speaker 1: the wintertime for just because, oh we liked him and

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01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: he's a great addition. The reality is, and I think

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Speaker 1: that that ownership probably had a little bit of Say,

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Shot Khan had control over the

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Speaker 1: roster last year and then obviously had some input and

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Speaker 1: some of the decision making this year, why would he

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Speaker 1: not have had some input into the hiring of Trent

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Speaker 1: Balky to a position within the Jaguar staff. And so

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01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: obviously there's a level of a respect and a level

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01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: of approval from a very get go when he was

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01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: brought in here, even though it wasn't for a general

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01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: manager role, but with how things occurred, I think it

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01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: it worked out very well and I think Urban will

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01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: appreciate the experience that Trent Balky has. Yes, former director

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01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: of player Personnel. No coincidence that he is now here

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01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: now general manager of the Jaguars and is brought into

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: a perfect situation. You could say, number one overall pick

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01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: eleven draft picks. You have five draft picks in the

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01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: first three rounds. I don't want to say it it's

1149
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: tough to mess that up because I know you can.

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01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: But pretty ideal situation here for Trent pulls it's it's

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01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: it's ideal if you look at it from the standpoint

1152
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: of boy, there's a lot of draft picks, but an

1153
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: ideal situation is to be taken over, uh, the general

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: manager position for an organization that has been a perennial winner.

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01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's optimal. I mean this is challenging and

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: some people might be scared of it, but some of

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01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 1: the personnel guys think that this is a great opportunity

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01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: because they believe very strongly in their own ability to

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01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: acquire talent to build an organization, and so there are

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01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: a lot of positives, but the reality is there's a

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01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: lot of building to do, a lot of building to

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01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: do from from every aspect because this organization has not

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01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: been very successful over the years. And it's a great

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: challenge and it's one that I think that Urban Meyer

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: looked at and saw as a great opportunity that uh

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Speaker 1: for for to win number one, but number two, that look,

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Speaker 1: if you go to the NFL and you win, and

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to win, and you've got the

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Speaker 1: tools and the resources to do it, go for it.

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Speaker 1: It would add to your legacy. I mean, Jimmy Johnson.

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01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: Look at what Jimmy Johnson was one National Championships. It's

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Speaker 1: like Urban goes to the Cowboys, gets Troy Aikman, already

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01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: has Michael Irvin there and then has the Herschel Walker trade,

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01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: which gives them a boon of pis. Well, the Jaguars

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01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: already have a boon of pis and they're able to

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Speaker 1: build a Super Bowl, multiple multi time winner in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: and Jimmy Johnson was a big part of that. So

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Speaker 1: I think Urban looked at that and said here's my

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: chance to put my stamp in the NFL. And I

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01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: think it's a great opportunity. It's a great opportunity for everybody. Yeah,

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01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't blame him at all. He came in here

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01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: saying I was only going to come into a situation

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01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: that was perfect and one more I saw that I

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01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: could win. There's no secret the opportunities there. You just

1185
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: got to go take it. Now. Well, there's there's other

1186
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: opportunities around the National Football League that have been filled.

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Speaker 1: But some of those opportunities, there are opportunities just from

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01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: the standpoint to look, there's only thirty two positions of

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01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: being a head coach. But you look at some of them,

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: and not to name names, but some of them are

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01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: teams that have a commitment to the quarterback that you

1192
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: can't get out of. And the quarterback play hasn't been great.

1193
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: The cap situations are horrendous. Some teams don't have any

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01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: draft capital and then have a situation where some people

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01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: on staff are untouchable or seem to be untouchable. Um,

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: and in a quarterback that's very unhappy. I mean, so

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01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 1: there's all these others. Well, I mean, take your pick,

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Speaker 1: uh and and ownership issues that that aren't particularly strong,

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Speaker 1: and and so this situation strong ownership, willing to spend

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Speaker 1: commitment to whatever resources are available, lots of draft picks,

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01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: lots of cap room, and an opportunity to take a

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: piece of clay and mold it into your eyes. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what probably and would have if I'm

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: urban Meyer, that would have made this job extremely attractive.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's one of the big reasons he

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01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: took it, because, I mean, he knows that, uh, this

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01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: is a quarterback game, and he said that before in

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Speaker 1: this press conference, and he didn't say just it's a

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Speaker 1: quarterback league. He said, it's a quarterback game. And here

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Speaker 1: you are. You you're sitting there with the first overall

1211
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Speaker 1: picking an opportunity to pick a quarterback that you can

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Speaker 1: pick and have a chance to win in the future.

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Speaker 1: So I was just too much to pass up for him.

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Speaker 1: I could not agree more. And now he has the

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Speaker 1: task of building a coaching staff. And I was talking

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Speaker 1: to someone and they said, yes, it's great that you

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01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: come into this opportunity, and it's a great oppert tun

1218
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: very well publicized, but it's also incredibly hard to be

1219
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: a head coach right now, because you have every coach

1220
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: you've ever been around calling you saying, hey, give me

1221
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity. You don't really know what you're doing. As

1222
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: well as NFL experience. To all these people are calling you,

1223
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: who do you put where? There's all these interviews going on.

1224
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: It stresses me out just thinking about it. I'm not

1225
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,479
Speaker 1: gonna lie because I can only imagine the phone calls

1226
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: he's getting right now. What's true, what's not? I can

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Speaker 1: tell you this, Actually, it's a hell of a lot

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01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: better to have people calling you wanting a job than

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Speaker 1: people that are going, I don't want to have anything

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: to do with you in the job, because I I

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01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: can tell you there are markets and situations that are

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Speaker 1: like that. So having people call you that's great. Now

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Speaker 1: you can cherry pick, you know, because if you've got

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Speaker 1: six guys calling you for one position and urban talked

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Speaker 1: about being the best of the best and making having

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Speaker 1: an elite staff, well, okay, if you've got six to

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Speaker 1: choose from seven, eight to choose from, to hell a

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01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: lot better than some other market that has nobody calling

1239
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: you because they don't want to work for you, because

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01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: they know that the situation you're in you don't have

1241
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: a chance. And so when more people are calling you,

1242
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And so then you can say, Okay,

1243
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna take him because he is the best out

1244
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,959
Speaker 1: of this group. He is the best I can get.

1245
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: And so that's a positive, even though it might think

1246
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: he's driving crazy because all these people are calling you.

1247
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: Look Erban Meyer has a vast history with coaches and

1248
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: and a and a very strong network. I'm sure of

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Speaker 1: people that he can make phone calls to, like he's

1250
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: done with Jimmy Johnson in the past, to be able

1251
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: to get information on some people that he may not

1252
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: know about but might be an ace on his staff.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's used lying, utilizing all of those tools. Yes,

1254
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: that guy, safe to say, knows a lot of people

1255
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: around the league, around college football. He's got three sources

1256
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: to make it happen, all right. When we come back

1257
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy, our NFL Draft Network analyst Bucky Brooks

1258
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: joins us right here on Jaguars Happy. Are on the

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Speaker 1: with Jeff Blogman. An NFL Draft Network analyst. Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 1: joins us now all the way from California. Bucky, thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us. The big news of the day

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Speaker 1: as Trent Fulky is the new general manager for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts, um, I thought is very similar

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Speaker 1: you want to pay them with someone who knows the

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Speaker 1: ins and outs of the league. Because Balky has done

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Speaker 1: Did you hear say that Bell was an upgrade in

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Speaker 1: the last that I mean I was expecting you to

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Speaker 1: do the same, I mean upgrade. Man, you got, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: some upgrade calls there. I'm never gonna live this down ever,

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Speaker 1: h Bucky. I had to do that because Joe is

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Speaker 1: telling me, I can't believe you didn't call her out

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Speaker 1: at the end of the last show. So whate there,

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Speaker 1: I was calling her out. Okay, that's right. Hold everybody accountable. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's fair, it's fair. I'll take the blame, all right, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: We are getting ready for the Senior Bowl next week

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Speaker 1: Needless to say, the Senior Bowl is gonna look a

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Speaker 1: little different this year. Yeah, it is going to look

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Speaker 1: a little different. Like there are all kinds of protocols

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Speaker 1: and when you think about the opt outs and the

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Speaker 1: we won't get a chance to see a lot of

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Speaker 1: go through drills, workout back to back and do that,

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Speaker 1: it will help you separate some of the clusters that

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Speaker 1: to draft time. Yeah, I think you've got a great

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Speaker 1: And then also the East West Shrine game, it raised

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Speaker 1: different positions, but also to go against what we're viewed

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Speaker 1: as other NFL caliber players. And that's a huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: buck I remember watching Brandon Linder and his All Star performance,

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Speaker 1: the combine what's the status on that buckey, what's is

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Speaker 1: not even gonna exist? What's the deal? So a couple

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Speaker 1: games will have significance now you await them accordingly. But

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Speaker 1: the medicals stuff, but pro days will now be the

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Speaker 1: but I think this year more than ever, you have

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Speaker 1: And and that's unfortunate because some players had serious concerns

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, Ashland fell even here with Jeff Logaman

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01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks as we get ready for the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl just next week in Mobile, Alabama and Bucky you

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Speaker 1: will be there with NFL Network virtually, of course, and

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01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: I have a feeling we're not to be able to

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01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: get away from the talk of Trevor Lawrence and the

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Obviously he won't be there. So

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01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 1: from a Jaguars perspective, what are you gonna be looking at? Immobile?

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01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. You have a really talented collection

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01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: of players and prospects, and you actually have some guys

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01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: who are opt outs who are elected to play in

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: this All Star Game because they understand the significance. I

1515
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: think the one thing that you want to do if

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01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: you're a Jaguars fan, um, you want to pay attention

1517
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: to the guys that really pop at first glance during

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday portion of practices. That's really where

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01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: the money is made in terms of how guys compete,

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01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: what guys look like. Do they progress and get better

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01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: each and every day? So do they look like a

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01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: better player on Wednesday? Did they do it on Tuesday?

1523
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Do they feel comfortable on Thursday as opposed to the

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: way they looked on Tuesday and Wednesday. I think that's

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01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: really really important. It's unfortunate that the Jaguars don't have

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: an opportunity to coach in this game, because what it

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01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: does do it gives you an opportunity to get around players.

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01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: And it's one thing to speculate how a player will perform,

1529
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: it's another thing to actually coach him, get around him,

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01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: know him. Watch the study habits, Watch how it takes

1531
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: things from the boardroom to the field, and so some

1532
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: of that stuff you have to kind of call in

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01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: your context or whatever. But it's a lot of talent,

1534
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,919
Speaker 1: it's a lot of guys to watch, and will continue

1535
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: to change because as we know in All Star games,

1536
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: some guys have a tendency to play the first part

1537
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: of the week and then they go by the wayside

1538
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: and you end up seeing other guys when it comes

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01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: to game game. Yeah, and uh, one of the one

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01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: of the critical parts of All Star games is practice evaluations.

1541
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how teams go about

1542
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: it because of some of the restrictions that the All

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: Star Games are gonna have in place, and I'm sure

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01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: that they're gonna disseminate all the film. I'm I'm a

1545
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: big believer in that one of the one of the

1546
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: areas that you really get a good look at in

1547
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: a in a or thorough understanding of guys. Is the

1548
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the All Star Games. And the reason

1549
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: I say that is a lot of times certain teams

1550
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: have so much talent that the skill position it has

1551
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: a tendency to overpower the offensive line position. And you

1552
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: can really get a good evaluation on a guy that

1553
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: because he's kind of on an island and so to speak,

1554
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: at an All Star Game, because he doesn't have a

1555
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: comfort level working with the guy to the left and

1556
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: the guy to the right, so they basically have to

1557
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: survive on their own. So you get a really good

1558
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: evaluation of their athleticism, their power and everything else. And

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: so that's that's one aspect I mean, for me, if

1560
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the All Star Games, I'm really focusing

1561
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. That's I think you get really

1562
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: good information their skill position players. They always rise and

1563
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: they always stand out and they will continue to stand out.

1564
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: But the quarterback play typically in an All Star Game

1565
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: is not great enough to make a lot of the

1566
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: skill position players stand out. But that offensive line position,

1567
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: that's where I think you can find out really worth

1568
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: some guys really need to be you know, it's funny, Jeff,

1569
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: because the trenches are everything, and so whether we talk

1570
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: about the offensive line or the defensive line, those battles

1571
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: really matter. And so and practice is all about looking

1572
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: at nine on seven and so for the viewer of

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01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: the listener, that is where we take the skill guys

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01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: out and we basically just have the core of the

1575
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 1: offensive line going against the core of the defensive line

1576
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: and the linebackers. We have the quarterback and the running backs,

1577
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: but it's a run period, is a physical period, and

1578
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: you really get to see who can kind of stand

1579
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: the test of time in terms of being able to

1580
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: control the point of attack. Also the one on one

1581
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: situations that you see pass rush situations, being able to

1582
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 1: see as Jeff, you alluded to those offensive linemen on islands,

1583
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: because unlike in the game where you can lean on

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01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: your neighbors and get some body help and stuff, if

1585
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: you're playing inside and guard or even outside where the

1586
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 1: tied end and the running back and chip, you get

1587
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: a chance to really do this all by yourself. And

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: so seeing how those guys perform in those events that's critical,

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01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: and I think it's very very critical to the overall evaluation. Yeah,

1590
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: it's it's one of these I think it's one of

1591
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: the hardest positions to evaluate, and so the more information

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01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: that you can get, the better. And then the All

1593
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: Star Games provide that. And I'll give you a story

1594
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: Ashland back uh, and I'll make it quick. When I

1595
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: was a player here in Jacksonville and Buck, I'll never

1596
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: forget he was, I think, like a fourth round pick

1597
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And I'll never forget the first day that

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01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: we went in pads, and I remember the first day

1599
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: in pats and I remember I watched him for the

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01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: first round. This guy has no chance of playing in

1601
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: the National He's got no chance. I mean he couldn't

1602
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: get into a stance without his ankles and his knees

1603
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: going in these crazy directions. And it was one practice,

1604
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: You're going, he's got no chance. And I'm sitting there

1605
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, what the heck were they watching? What

1606
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: do they evaluate on this guy? Because I mean, there

1607
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: are offensive lineman that play on good teams that if

1608
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: you've got a great running back and a great quarterback,

1609
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: you can make an offensive lineman look pretty good. And

1610
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: so I'll just I'll never forget that I was just

1611
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: like man one day, and I kind of had this

1612
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: guy picked that he wasn't even gonna make the roster,

1613
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: but he made the roster just because he was a

1614
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: draft pick. But then soon after that he was bye bye.

1615
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't play. You're passionate about this. The

1616
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: more information you can get at the offensive line, the

1617
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: better y'ere off you are. I can tell you that

1618
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: well asked to talk about what what lives are saying

1619
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: a lot of times you're seeing these guys come from

1620
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: these offenses that are so spread heavy, so pass happy,

1621
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: that you really don't know if they can translate to

1622
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: the NFL game, because the NFL game is about the

1623
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: running game as much as we talk about the passing game.

1624
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: And can you get into three point stance? Can you

1625
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: move people off the ball and pass protection? Can you

1626
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 1: deal with the superheroes that play on the defensive line,

1627
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: because these guys look they can leap tall buildings in

1628
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: a single bound, and if you don't have the foot quickness,

1629
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: if you don't have the ability to anchor, it makes

1630
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: it very difficult for you to play in this league

1631
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 1: for a long time. And sometimes you can't assess that

1632
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: on tape. Sometimes you have to see them in practice,

1633
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 1: go against other good players to really determine how that

1634
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: they are as prospect. Very fair, very fair. I have

1635
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: a predicament. I guess I can say for you too.

1636
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: And I hope my dad's watching because he always says,

1637
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: as you look at Joe Burrow and Cincinnati and they say, oh,

1638
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't address the offensive line. That's why

1639
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got hurt. Obviously that was going to happen. Now,

1640
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: obviously that's not true. Injuries happen in the NFL. So Bucky,

1641
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: I'll go to you, how much of priority is this

1642
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: offensive line is? They must need got to re look

1643
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: at everything we read at the combine last year and

1644
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 1: everyone said fan wise, oh you have to completely redo

1645
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Coaching staff said, no, it's not that bad. Guys,

1646
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: just wait and see so Jaguars taking a quarterback number

1647
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: one overall? How much are you looking at this offensive line?

1648
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: I think you have to consider because I think a

1649
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: lot is to be determinent about Cam Rominson, and so

1650
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: depending on if you bring him back as your left tackle,

1651
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: you may or may not have a big void. But

1652
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: I think with the offensive line, I don't think you

1653
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: ever can have enough of them. If you look at

1654
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: the best teams in this division, their offensive line is solidified.

1655
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: The Indian Appolist Coast offensive line is one of the

1656
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: best in football. You look at the way the Tennessee

1657
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: Titans dominate in the trenches, it is because they've invested

1658
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: in the offensive line. I will say this. I believe

1659
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: your offensive line and your defensive line are the lifeblood

1660
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: of your team. And if you don't invest in those guys,

1661
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: if you don't have a level offensive and defensive lines,

1662
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: it is hard to win consistently in the league. I

1663
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: think it's something that always needs to be addressed. And

1664
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: luckily in this class there are a number of offensive

1665
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: tackles that could be there in the middle to the

1666
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: bottom of the first round. It would be great because

1667
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: you can improve an offensive line by getting better players,

1668
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: number one, and also creating competition, and then you got

1669
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: to improve with what you got. And and I really

1670
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: believe this. I think he create competition on this Jaguars

1671
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: offensive line to make those guys push themselves. But then

1672
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: also you have to expect more out of these guys.

1673
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: Joanna Taylor. I think it is a perfect example. Bucky.

1674
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I like his athleticism. I think he can

1675
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: be an elite right tackle in this league, and last

1676
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: year was not the standard that he needs to meet.

1677
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 1: In my and you, oh, Jeff, I think that's everything.

1678
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: And I think when you have a new coaching staff

1679
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: coming in, a new general manager, I think everybody in

1680
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: the building has to perk up on the roster. And

1681
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: when you think about this offensive line, there's no one

1682
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: that's invested in whoever the five guys that were out

1683
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: there last year. So now you bring in better guys,

1684
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: guys that can push, because not only do you want

1685
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: the best guys to play, but you want the backups

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Speaker 1: more with our friend Bucky Brooks. On this Thursday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: we had a press conference day with head coach Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer as well as the new general manager, Trent Bulky,

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Speaker 1: and they are hard at work building a coaching staff. Bucky.

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01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of reports going on. Every time you

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01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: log on the Twitter you see a new one. But

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01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: what do you think in favorite so far for offensive

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01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: coordinator defensive coordinator? Were talking Joe calling a couple of

1743
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: breaks back. Definitely a favorite here in Jackson. So how

1744
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 1: do you think this plays out? You know, I think

1745
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Joe Cullen certainly has the inside track in terms of

1746
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 1: being the defensive coordinator, and I think he comes with

1747
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: a lot of experience. Obviously haven't been down there before,

1748
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: but his time with Baltimore. When you look at the

1749
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and that defense very very very multiple, they

1750
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: can attack your protections in a few different ways and

1751
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: they're very very aggressive. The thing that I would I

1752
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 1: would say is if he comes in, if he is

1753
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, you just need to make sure that

1754
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 1: your second dairy coaches understand how to fit the pieces

1755
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: around it, because sometimes guys that live upfront have a

1756
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 1: tougher time matching up in the back end when it

1757
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: comes to coverage. So it puts a greater premium on

1758
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: making sure that your dB coaches are great teachers and

1759
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: also great schemers so they can make the magic on

1760
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: the board really work in real life when you get

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01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: to the field. Yeah, I mean, typically you see a

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01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: guy that goes from a positional coach to a coordinator

1763
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,640
Speaker 1: position on defense having had experience either as the linebackers

1764
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 1: coach or as a secondary coach. Just from a coverage standpoint,

1765
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: I think, well, obviously what Bucky's talking about right there,

1766
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: and so it is odd that you see a defensive

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01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: line coach go up to the coordinator position. But but

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01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I will say this, Bucky, you know, look at having

1769
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,839
Speaker 1: been a former defensive lineman. Look, we're not all dumbies. Okay,

1770
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 1: we we do understand defensive concepts. Okay, just because we

1771
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: play defensive line doesn't mean that we don't didn't understand

1772
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: cover just as well. No, I think, I think, I

1773
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 1: think it's interesting, But I will say this, typically what

1774
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: happens when you do that, because we've seen guys have success.

1775
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn has been a successful defensive coordinator. Typically what happens, though,

1776
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: is that experience have been dealt with the big guys

1777
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,839
Speaker 1: in the line of scrimmage. You're going to be dominant

1778
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: against the run. Typically, that's always going to be the

1779
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: point of emphasis. We gotta stop to run to make

1780
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 1: teams one dimensional. And in today's game, even though we

1781
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: talked about it being a passing league, in the playoffs

1782
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: and when it gets to the last part of the season,

1783
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: the running game matters and you have to be able

1784
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to stop that, to force

1785
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: people to throw when you really want to throw. And

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01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: so look, I think he has an opportunity to do

1787
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: a really good job. That experience serves him will not

1788
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: only in Jackson, but also in Baltimore. So I look

1789
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: forward to it. I know there's some other guys that

1790
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: were being banded around, but it seems like Colin is

1791
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: going to be the guy at defense. Yeah, I mean

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01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Look at look actually looking at

1793
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: my phone just a few minutes ago. I mean, all

1794
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: the reports are is that Joe Culin is the defensive

1795
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: coordinator and Bucky Uh. I know Joe, Joe very well,

1796
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 1: good guy and excited for him. And what's amazing to me,

1797
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: ashland Is and Bucky you know this. So the number

1798
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: of defensive coordinators that have come out of Baltimore's positional group,

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01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's immense and uh, it's almost

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Speaker 1: as if, Look, if you want to get a defensive

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01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: coordinator position, go to Baltimore. Okay, be uh, just a

1802
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: low level guy on defense, advanced to a position and

1803
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: then you're gonna be a defensive coordinator one day. And

1804
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 1: then for many years it was automatic defensive coordinator for Baltimore. Ravens,

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01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 1: guess what, you're a head coach in the waiting, You're

1806
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: coming out of Baltimore. Yeah, I mean, look, it's been

1807
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 1: there for a long time, Jeff, going back to when

1808
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: we played together in the mid nineties, Baltimore has always

1809
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: been known for their defense and the way they've consistently

1810
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: kind of built that team in that program around the toughness,

1811
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: the physicality and aggressiveness of the defense. And I just

1812
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 1: hope like that can pop up in Xonville, because you

1813
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: would like to see kind of a defensive oriented, defensive

1814
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: centric team because at the end of the day, the

1815
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,919
Speaker 1: teams that separate themselves are the ones that can get stops.

1816
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: All of the teams that continue to play in the

1817
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 1: final four, our teams that can stop people when you

1818
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: need to, And I think it has to be a

1819
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: part of the program going forward. I cannot agree more.

1820
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: In Buckey, I want your opinion on this as well.

1821
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: We talked a couple of segments ago about the offensive

1822
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: coordinator position, Scotland Ahan Anthony Lynn. I have question marks

1823
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 1: around both, but there's also positives about both. And we said,

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01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, chaina command, who do you call offensive coordinator?

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01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 1: Can Can they be a tie? Can you have both

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01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 1: of them? Because they're both pre qualified? You know, I

1827
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: think there's a way that you can do it. Like

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01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: it really just depends and a lot of it depends

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01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: on the ego. I'll talk about Anthony land first and

1830
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn. What you're hoping to get is what is

1831
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: the soup dejour, meaning that Shanahan run game that system

1832
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: because that system has made um average players, good good

1833
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: players into superstars. And so if you can get that

1834
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: offensive system where you got the offensive line working on tracks,

1835
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: you have running backs that are down here one cult

1836
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 1: runners who James Robinson certainly fits the build, and that

1837
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 1: you now can run. You can run the ball, and

1838
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 1: it takes so much pressure off your quarterback. In a

1839
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: perfect world, if you can take Anthony Lynn with that

1840
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: run game and then match him up with Scott Linahan

1841
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do in the passing game,

1842
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: yes it would be great. I will say this about

1843
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: Scott Linahan. A lot of people will kind of go

1844
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: back and forth in him and hall On Lenahan, But

1845
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: if you look at the work that he did in

1846
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: Dallas with Dak Prescott, young quarterback got him up and going.

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01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: Now they had pieces in place, meaning the offensive line

1848
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 1: was solidified, they had a running back in Ezekiel Elliott,

1849
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 1: and as Dad got better, he grew from being what

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01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: I would call a game manager to being more of

1851
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,879
Speaker 1: a playmaker. Even though we can celebrate and go crazy

1852
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: over what Trevor Lawrence potentially could be if he is

1853
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: to pick, you have to remember it's a young quarterback.

1854
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 1: You don't want to task him with too much of that.

1855
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 1: You want to be able to have a balanced offense

1856
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 1: that allows the quarterback to grow into being a playmaker.

1857
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,520
Speaker 1: You don't want to ask them to be a playmaker

1858
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: in your one. Yeah, you gotta take your pressure off

1859
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: of them. And that's and it's funny that you talk

1860
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 1: about Dallas and and how Scott Linehan was able to

1861
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: help out Dak Prescott when well, you brought up a

1862
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: good point and that well, that offensive line and Ezeko

1863
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: Elliott was what made Scott Linehan good and what made

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01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott have the time to be able to develop.

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01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean again, I mean even though we talk about

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01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 1: coaches being important, and they are very important, and you

1867
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 1: can question offensive coordinators every day and three times on Sunday,

1868
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: but when you start to have really good players, it

1869
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: becomes harder to question offensive coordinators. Absolutely, it's a it's

1870
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: a player's game, and that is the number one thing

1871
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: and we have to keep that in mind. As much

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01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,520
Speaker 1: as we may talk about the position coaches and the coordinators.

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01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: The number one job first of the gentlemanager in urban

1874
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: you got to bring in a level players because the

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01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: better the players are, the better it is that you

1876
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 1: look as a coach. And so if we can bring

1877
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 1: in a number of five star players that can come

1878
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: in and have impact, because you need impact players to

1879
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: really change the course of the franchise, that helps all

1880
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: coaches look better. Better players better team, better team to

1881
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: get more wins. Everyone's excited. Jeff and I are smiling.

1882
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: We're not improved in this fifteen game loser streak and

1883
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 1: trying to find a clicker and trying to find the

1884
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: good stuff. Everybody's better when we start winning games and

1885
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the stars were better players. I can tell you this, Ashland,

1886
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: I can tell you I can be the best defensive

1887
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: line coach and football. Give me Aaron Donald. Give me

1888
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, and I can coach him up, but I

1889
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: can do it. I'll be I'll be one of the

1890
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: best defensive line coaches in the league. Give me Aaron Donald. Alright.

1891
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: Coaching search still going on, hopefully to have that solidified

1892
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: next week. Thank you Bucky Brooks for joining us on

1893
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. I won't call you an upgrade, but

1894
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: we'll leave it there. We'll say that appreciate you. Still

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Speaker 1: dot com. And a topic that's been floating around that

1939
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, Jeff, I giggle out a little. Now,

1940
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Speaker 1: it's shocking. I'm not a head coach, I'm not a scout.

1941
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Speaker 1: I know that's shocking to you. But the debates on

1942
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Speaker 1: if they will take Trevor Lawrence number one, Coach Meyer said,

1943
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Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna look at all the quarterbacks. There's

1944
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Speaker 1: a lot of options, are there? No, No, there, there's

1945
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Speaker 1: no options. Uh. The option has just to take Trevor

1946
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Speaker 1: Lawrence or do not take Trevor Lawrence and make a

1947
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 1: huge mistake. I've had the chance to watch the film

1948
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Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. I've watched a little bit of the

1949
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1950
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback of Ohio State. And for me, it's

1951
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: hands down, it's an easy decision. Trevor Lawrence is your guy.

1952
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Speaker 1: And uh, I don't want to say that he is

1953
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Speaker 1: on par with some of the armed talent that Patrick

1954
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Speaker 1: Mahomes showed when when he was in college, but the

1955
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: consistency with Trevor Lawrence is amazing, and for me, that's, uh,

1956
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Speaker 1: that makes it a very easy decision. He's got everything,

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Speaker 1: He's got all the measurables, he's got the intangibles, He's

1958
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Speaker 1: been a winner everywhere he's been, and uh, there's nothing

1959
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 1: not to like with Trevor Lawrence. I'm not saying he

1960
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Speaker 1: can't miss, because you can always miss and because you

1961
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Speaker 1: you don't know exactly what the mental makeup is. But

1962
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1963
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Speaker 1: history is impeccable. Yes, spot on, clear favorites. And now

1964
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Speaker 1: we're curious to see if they do draft Trevor Lawrence,

1965
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Speaker 1: what do they do with the weapons around him? And

1966
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Speaker 1: one of the to do list questions was do you

1967
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1968
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Speaker 1: What do you do with these weapons given to Trevor Lawrence?

1969
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Speaker 1: While these weapons don't have a contract. So I mean

1970
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Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to figure a way out

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Speaker 1: to uh to try to bring as many back as possible.

1972
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1981
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1982
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1983
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1985
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1986
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1993
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Speaker 1: simple math, Yes, very sim smart man, smart man, simple math. Alright,

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2056
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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon of Jaguars Happy Hour Ashland Sullivan and Jeff

2057
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Speaker 1: Logman here new head coach in the building and being

2058
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Speaker 1: general manager in the building. And rightfully so many Jaguars

2059
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Speaker 1: fans are exciting. Jeff. You're walking around town, you're at publics,

2060
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Speaker 1: you're hearing all the excitement buzzing. And I have a

2061
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2062
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2063
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Speaker 1: was announced the head coach. The Jaguars ticket department says

2064
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Speaker 1: hours after the head coach was announced. From today till

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Speaker 1: last year, eight times with the Jaguars, ticket sales were

2067
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Speaker 1: going way up. And I don't blame them. People are

2068
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:56,080
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2069
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be exciting. And it's not just

2070
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2071
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2072
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Speaker 1: all the change obviously gives you hope. And that's what

2073
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Speaker 1: And now you got it. You got a proven coach,

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2076
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2077
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2081
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2082
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Speaker 1: history here and uh and I can honestly tell you

2084
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Speaker 1: this excellent. I've never ever been a guy to root

2085
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 1: for this team to lose for draft position. I found

2086
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 1: myself rooting for this team to lose this year. You're

2087
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:05,719
Speaker 1: one of those guys. You weren't the only one. Well look,

2088
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 1: you missed out and opportunities in the past to drift

2089
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2090
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2091
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Speaker 1: here you are with an opportunity, and if you win

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2093
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2094
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Speaker 1: gotta say that it was. It was a very good

2095
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Speaker 1: week the last week of the season because the draft

2096
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Speaker 1: position was already decided and the weeks prior to that,

2097
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: I was I might have found myself rooting for certain

2098
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Speaker 1: things to happen that I shouldn't have been doing. You know,

2099
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Speaker 1: you weren't the only one. I well, I look, I

2100
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Speaker 1: won't look at here. Here's the reality. I always root

2101
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: for this team to win because of the relationships that

2102
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Speaker 1: I have with coaches and the players, and you want

2103
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Speaker 1: But they get it. Yeah, they get it. I mean look,

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Speaker 1: And so now with him having an opportunity to take

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Speaker 1: But then you look at something like Bowling Green. You

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Speaker 1: a busy Sunday championship games. You have Sunday three o'clock

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Green Bay, Sunday six thirty Buffalo in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I was telling Jeff in the break that this is

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Speaker 1: Buffaloes year calling, so what do you what's your story

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Speaker 1: with Buffalo? What what do you got invested in Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: I just think was a weird year. So why not

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Speaker 1: make it any weirder and have the Buffalo Bills win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in front of all these other teams

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Speaker 1: that are historic and all this. They're really good. I look,

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Speaker 1: I I think they're They're general manager and coach have

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Speaker 1: done an amazing job. Their young quarterback has made a

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Speaker 1: great progression and his accuracy has gone where people didn't

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Speaker 1: think that it could go. And he is certainly uh

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Speaker 1: an elite athlete as well as having armed talent. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a great battle two young quarterbacks. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think that if Patrick Mahomes plays and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any ill effects from the concussion, I just don't

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Speaker 1: see Kansas City losing. But it should be a great

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Speaker 1: football game and I can't wait to see Aaron Rodgerson

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady Championship game for Tom Brady? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: And just to imagine that if Tampa Bay does win

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Speaker 1: that game, they play the first year that Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: is the quarter back in the Super Bowl in their city.

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Speaker 1: He can't write it up better than that. Are you taking?

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Speaker 1: You're taking Buffalo? Obviou take it? I think Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, Green Bay. If you don't beat Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: you just don't. But you also can say the same

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Speaker 1: I'm taking Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes and uh and I'm

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Speaker 1: taking Tom Brady in the bus. Wow. Now that is

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Speaker 1: a game to watch. Okay, Well, then who wins with that?

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Speaker 1: Cam City? Kan City wins it all? They did that?

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Speaker 1: You know that's the cancer. You're good. We never thought

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Speaker 1: there could be a Tom Brady, but we might be

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Speaker 1: watching the next one right now. Yes we will, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully the Jaguars get their next Tom Brady, the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Talk lots about that in this program.

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Speaker 1: And that is Jaguars Happy Hour. Ashton Sullivan, Jeff Longman.

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Speaker 1: A busy off season coming up to states too. Right

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