Speaker 1: Time, time, Time to wake up. Infant and Charlotte Mean
Speaker 1: the Doctor to Breakfast Club Bitches, the voice of the culture.
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Speaker 1: it off your chest, man, I want to get it
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Speaker 1: Like I'm just over it. Um. People be asking me,
Speaker 1: they were like, why won't you get off? But it's
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Speaker 1: of work and like find something to do. So you
Speaker 1: you scroll through social media, but all it is a negativity, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm serious. I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: If I can find a way to like get off,
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Speaker 1: And it looked those things up like a lot of
Speaker 1: times around on a plane or I'm in the airport,
Speaker 1: I just look up houses and different markets because I
Speaker 1: just like, I like looking at homes, you know, just
Speaker 1: just whether I could afford them or not. That's just
Speaker 1: something that interests me. And it is a lot of
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Speaker 1: you know, it's never too late to do what you
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Speaker 1: your chess, Okay, get it off your chess. So I
Speaker 1: am actually blessed, but I'm a little sad because I
Speaker 1: listened to you guys every morning live on my way
Speaker 1: to work, and basically I told you guys, how I
Speaker 1: shot my shot of dramas you shot it down. I
Speaker 1: found a black king. Hey, congratulations, job moving to Seattle
Speaker 1: to be with my black king. Nice, mamma. Yes, so
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. But I just wanted to tell you guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so so so much for everything with you,
Speaker 1: for the community and and the people that you guys
Speaker 1: bring on as far as like information and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You guys are more appreciated than you thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: so I just wanted to say thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You gotta listen to us on the app now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I listen to iHeart. If I do, you missed it
Speaker 1: in the morning, so I'm just gonna stick to iHeart. Okay. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, mama, and you have a great trip and
Speaker 1: safe ma'am. Thank you, Charla Mane. Can I get a
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Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all.
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Speaker 1: Get it off your chest, Mama. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: call us say that I am blessing how he favored? Nope,
Speaker 1: you blessed Black and Holly Favorite. You're right about that. Um.
Speaker 1: I just hit thirty this year, and I'm really starting
Speaker 1: to see what Mary Jake Blige and you know Javo
Speaker 1: we're talking about in that song Rainy Days, And even
Speaker 1: on the rainy days, I walk out the house with
Speaker 1: us knock on my face and I know that God's
Speaker 1: got there. You go, thank and Charlot sometimes man, Nope,
Speaker 1: we love you, but you didn't till sometimes off the chaparlo.
Speaker 1: So why would I listen to? Why? Why? Why would
Speaker 1: I chill them? I'm gonna always be me and and
Speaker 1: you know how you say when you leave the house
Speaker 1: is gonna be those rainy days. One thing about me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna always be me, the so called good, so
Speaker 1: called bad, so called ugly. Every day. Well, I'll definitely
Speaker 1: tune in the watching United fan. Hey, there you go.
Speaker 1: The God's Done is True from Comedy Central. But thank you, mom.
Speaker 1: You have a great weekend. Hello. Who's this this? Mo? Mo?
Speaker 1: What up? Getting off? Chu? Bro? Yeah? Hey, I just
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Speaker 1: Like this ever years from me to hub. You know
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Speaker 1: Yeah when he whenever you're in Detroit, if you have time, Okay,
Speaker 1: Yeah that I could use that too. That'd be nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so awesome. I just want to thank God. My grandma
Speaker 1: just came home from having cold. Wow. I mean that's
Speaker 1: the blessing. All right, brother, have a good weekend. Get
Speaker 1: it off your chest. I said he loved his girl.
Speaker 1: I love to see it absolutely eight hundred five eight five,
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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Go Morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait that
Speaker 1: up in the morning. Check out this breakfast club. We
Speaker 1: want morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy.
Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
Speaker 1: in the building. That's right, Posh Shasty not a new
Speaker 1: project got the day called Shafety season. This is your
Speaker 1: first project, right for so my first one album? What
Speaker 1: it is? This a mixtape? Is it's an album? Is
Speaker 1: it's an ep a mixtape? Mixtape? Now? For people that
Speaker 1: don't know you from Memphis? Yo, salth Mivin and you
Speaker 1: signed with Gucci Walk Big Walk. How did that? How
Speaker 1: did that come about? Mine? U me in the bid
Speaker 1: my middle of the night. One day, he takes me
Speaker 1: on Instagram? Did you believe it? Did you think it was?
Speaker 1: It was? It was a lie. I couldn't believe it
Speaker 1: 'm that last year? So he just sent you a DM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he takes me, said, what's up home? I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: I grabbed my phone, get up, push something out of
Speaker 1: the real takes him back. I say, what's chopping? He
Speaker 1: takes back right there in and there like he was owning.
Speaker 1: He was waiting on me to tip back. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm talking with your mirrors home. Who are you doing
Speaker 1: this with? I put my clothes on shoot to shoot
Speaker 1: the pops out. Then my managers I waken to wake
Speaker 1: up A look I showed him. Couldn't believe he get
Speaker 1: the Swain right. Then another though, why I'm showing him?
Speaker 1: He takes back, He said, it did my number fade
Speaker 1: time a fade timing right. Third, we was on fade
Speaker 1: time for like six hours. It was already like three
Speaker 1: in the morning. Though, he just said, look on face
Speaker 1: time before we continue that story. Whoever that woman was
Speaker 1: in the bed with you gonna be mad that you
Speaker 1: just referred to her as somebody somewhere. Now what you're
Speaker 1: being for Memphis? Did Dolf or gott he reached out
Speaker 1: with since since they both from the same areas, or yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, but you never wanted to sign with that
Speaker 1: or they just never offered a deal, or just wasn't
Speaker 1: the right situation, Like I ain't gonna lie, I ain't
Speaker 1: known wanted to sign a no better then Joe. My
Speaker 1: mentality you know in the city is like you gotta
Speaker 1: sign to either one of them. You gotta be paper
Speaker 1: out of sEMG. So before Walcome came out, I'm still
Speaker 1: Chopper guind this is my lab. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: be like, why you can't be signed a Chopper game?
Speaker 1: Seeing your paper rout? Then Walk can't bone perfect sing?
Speaker 1: You know I got you. I always wonder how Gucci
Speaker 1: Man discovers talent, like what did he hit? What did
Speaker 1: he hero rs? It's a genius, he a genius. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what a song he heard of
Speaker 1: the show Mine ain't Slim Mine Slim did it for
Speaker 1: him and that was the only song he heard. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, South, When did you finally meet
Speaker 1: him in person? Did he did you? Did you fly
Speaker 1: to a land or did he come out to Memphish
Speaker 1: or we flew to Alan. It was like I got
Speaker 1: signed throing COVID so it ain't locked down and shut
Speaker 1: down and thin over over the phone. So yeah, did
Speaker 1: you did the deal over the phone? Didn't meet him
Speaker 1: in person? Just no, I didn't do the deal and
Speaker 1: over the phone, Like I was signed a week before
Speaker 1: I had to pop out like with it. No, I
Speaker 1: had to hold it in. It's hard, it's a walk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still problem to like my mom was something, well,
Speaker 1: she gonna tell them hold SI. A lot of folks
Speaker 1: in our days want to stay indie. What made you say?
Speaker 1: You know what? Now, I'm gonna do the ten seventeen
Speaker 1: Atlantic thing right perfect since and they ain't ain't coming
Speaker 1: at me on the BS and and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when they did, then I like, I
Speaker 1: ain't genuine what I really wanted to see me win it? Man?
Speaker 1: When did you realize that it was taking off? When
Speaker 1: your popularity before you did the deal with w When
Speaker 1: did you realize it was taking off? With it? One day?
Speaker 1: You walking into malling, people be like, yo, I know
Speaker 1: who you are? Was it your mama heard the rector
Speaker 1: one time? But when did you realize, like yo, it
Speaker 1: was like out of her, out of her? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna laugh. My first song to see it start
Speaker 1: off for a verse. I did my first verse on
Speaker 1: it own breaking news with me and the game trouble Gun.
Speaker 1: Then verse on ther went viral. They were like who
Speaker 1: it did? Dude? It was like I couldn't like step
Speaker 1: out the gate or none no more for Ryan pay All.
Speaker 1: This it was real then, but when I knew it
Speaker 1: took out when they hit the radios. So I got
Speaker 1: put on you from guard up because I was listening
Speaker 1: to the new title playlist and that got up so hard.
Speaker 1: I just went down this pool shicey rabbit hole and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, this dude is dope. And then
Speaker 1: it started ding on me. Oh he went Gucci, so
Speaker 1: it then it started to make sense. You used to
Speaker 1: play ball with him, I know how, you know how? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want them. I want them to
Speaker 1: play the coach miss with but can't make the team
Speaker 1: that I got here used me for practice, getting the showing.
Speaker 1: They need an inscre man, but I ain't even on
Speaker 1: the team or nothing. Well, wasn't to the locker room
Speaker 1: because of behavior or something. Behavior, couldn't get no physicals, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but got the talent for show. That's how it was
Speaker 1: when me. I used to want to play sports, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I was always suspended in all types of stupid.
Speaker 1: And I've seen when you opposed me though, like oh
Speaker 1: like big shout him. I don't like nobody The Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club if you missed the Breakfast Club, you don't coo
Speaker 1: from my world. It's dangerous. Check out this rewind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the world most dangerous Morning to show The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Charlemagne and God Angela, Ye dj Envy, and we got
Speaker 1: my man Pooh Shicety here Pooh Shitsky as a new
Speaker 1: artist out of Memphis. He signed the ten seventeen Atlantic Records.
Speaker 1: He's got a project out right now called Shisty Season.
Speaker 1: And you got a question, do you still in Memphis
Speaker 1: or you decided to boot to Atlantic? Because I see
Speaker 1: Atlanta is everything. Atlanta is open, Atlanta is the music scene.
Speaker 1: You run in the audi, in the studio. Huh yeah
Speaker 1: for show. I'm in a move for show, but I
Speaker 1: would be whoever. I feel like I go to them too.
Speaker 1: You feel like memphisis is as united as it should
Speaker 1: be at all. I know, man, Memphis are like for united.
Speaker 1: You can use Alouna for example, Memphis Now, I won't
Speaker 1: see nobody to win. I'm gonna pull you now something
Speaker 1: type of way. Try to tempt someone on, you, try
Speaker 1: to take something. It just Memphis. They hate too because
Speaker 1: of that. Why not just stay out the city for
Speaker 1: a while. They beat how they feel the or the folks.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do me like it's up to me now,
Speaker 1: like it's in my hand I can bring make it
Speaker 1: like alouna that there's how I feel I could be
Speaker 1: the big brother stars on the pun. It's like if
Speaker 1: if if Memphis was united, y'all would easily be that
Speaker 1: next city from the South with all the talent coming
Speaker 1: from that talent too much time. So so what do
Speaker 1: you think it if the ogs didn't embrace the youngsters?
Speaker 1: What was it? I don't I don't get it. Be
Speaker 1: there like folks be having the feeling I don't want
Speaker 1: no about to pass them or something I don't incur,
Speaker 1: Like as long as you know what I'm saying, pay
Speaker 1: your homage and do right, keep it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, keep a little chick like I don't to
Speaker 1: speak none of this sucker stuff. Now it's more dangerous
Speaker 1: to be a rapper or a screet the lad through year.
Speaker 1: Rappers ain't bad to year. I ain't gonna couple here.
Speaker 1: They've been going at the rapper. Is it because the
Speaker 1: money makes you a target? The fame was like the
Speaker 1: screets the rap Now then the folk internet. They're gonna
Speaker 1: do the police jobs. So if it wasn't a rap,
Speaker 1: what you think you'd be into legal, I'll be put up.
Speaker 1: I won't even be here. So yeah, how proudly is
Speaker 1: your mom right now? They're seeing everything that you've been through. Man,
Speaker 1: she's my mom one. She's very proud. Big shout out
Speaker 1: of them all, dudes. I wish she could be. She
Speaker 1: loves you too, been watched you year. I know about
Speaker 1: you through my mom. I appreciate that ski mask talking
Speaker 1: about bad you know? Also what you know better? You
Speaker 1: can't slide with that, but you see it, batter, it's
Speaker 1: a man we don't know, all right. I gotta get
Speaker 1: you run now. Also with um, what's the first thing
Speaker 1: you bought when you made money? And what's the first
Speaker 1: thing you bought your mom? No? I bought my mama
Speaker 1: cough first, what kind of car fandom? Infinity? Infinity? No,
Speaker 1: this is the first one. No, she's gonna do it big,
Speaker 1: but I had to give us a what's the first
Speaker 1: thing you bought yourself? Your biggest purchase so far being
Speaker 1: truck man? You gotta buy churches, man, you got to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got asa franchise your own churches that would be though,
Speaker 1: push shat on some churches because they need all the
Speaker 1: all churches needs a rebrand. They might need to reach
Speaker 1: out O see that in church and keep it. I've
Speaker 1: been saying churches come in on fold stuff and then
Speaker 1: churches tapping in big shots. You're gonna shoot the video
Speaker 1: at the churches with my shirt off. Absolutely well, Po Shay.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining, and we promised we were
Speaker 1: gonna bring a lot of new artists up in here,
Speaker 1: new artists that are moving the culture. And when this
Speaker 1: fifty year old man came in here with a ski
Speaker 1: mask on, pointing his finger guns at me, it was like,
Speaker 1: it's tongue. It means yeah, because we I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: we've been doing this for a wild ten years and
Speaker 1: like we've seen a lot of like we saw the
Speaker 1: Megals early on, we saw a little baby early on.
Speaker 1: And I feel like you got that same thing. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, appreciate that. I think Pu
Speaker 1: Shaty gonna be a star star. And you said, like
Speaker 1: when you felt that, you said, at all the top
Speaker 1: mean older than you know what I'm saying, Not for what, dude,
Speaker 1: not I suck. I appreciate that and tell you mom,
Speaker 1: I said peace, We appreciate it. What's her name, Miss
Speaker 1: glad Miss Gladys, Miss Gladys. All right, oh well it's
Speaker 1: pool Shasty, not na pool. You know we ain't come
Speaker 1: up here, you know we don't. We've been at home,
Speaker 1: so we came up here for you now. Want you
Speaker 1: to know that, so you know it's it's serious. Maybe
Speaker 1: wishing the best of luck and hopefully we'll see you
Speaker 1: again up here. Well, all right, it's pool shicsty. It's
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Speaker 1: slash envy. It's topic time called eight hundred and five
Speaker 1: eight five one oh five? Want to join it to
Speaker 1: the discussion with the breakfast club? Talk about it? Morning,
Speaker 1: Everybody's stej envy, angela Yee Charlemagne the guy. We are
Speaker 1: the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne
Speaker 1: came to work this morning a little um under the influence, Yeah,
Speaker 1: under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay,
Speaker 1: I deserve to be in breakfast club court this morning.
Speaker 1: I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on
Speaker 1: the radio and I just feel like I'm too old
Speaker 1: and still be influenced by music. And I promise you
Speaker 1: it literally was the New South Playlist on title listening
Speaker 1: to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my
Speaker 1: Man Little Boss I Know It and you know, pooh
Speaker 1: shicety guard up. It really really, really really took me
Speaker 1: to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so
Speaker 1: we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to
Speaker 1: be h influenced by music right now? I don't think so. Bro,
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I really don't. And I
Speaker 1: have no reason for saying that other than I just
Speaker 1: really enjoy it. Are we going through a middle life practice?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Still. You know, like Charlomagne, you
Speaker 1: have a ski mask drinking drinking Starbucks, Like, what is that?
Speaker 1: It's called balance? Is that a boogie gangsterf like what
Speaker 1: it's called. Balance, think it's game. Bankers don't need caffeine.
Speaker 1: I don't know you need energy to do a drive
Speaker 1: by too. Okay, you think I have to put money
Speaker 1: on people's head without uh, you know, a little lot tepe? Okay? Hello?
Speaker 1: Who's this? This is hey Virginia. You know you know
Speaker 1: your boy's up here with a ski mask on, drinking
Speaker 1: a latte. I love it with a pinky in the
Speaker 1: It's a little weird. We have to listen, we have
Speaker 1: to do I'm for three. I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll be in my car sometimes. You know, I could
Speaker 1: be a bug, I could be a seeheart. But listen, Charlomagne,
Speaker 1: keep doing it. Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello, who's this? This guy's crazy? Hey, John,
Speaker 1: what are you calling from Florida? You know what, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good thing when you got a
Speaker 1: bunch of Florida people of jo John Charlotta Mane has
Speaker 1: a ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a
Speaker 1: Lotte with his pinky in the finger. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. With that pinky. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, but but you think his ass is
Speaker 1: too old fallers, man, sit your old ass down somewhere. Man.
Speaker 1: How old are you, sir? I'm thirty three? Oh you're
Speaker 1: thirty three. Okay, you're still living out your old wild
Speaker 1: out days. You're still cheating on your girl? Did that?
Speaker 1: I did that when I was swing. I got arrested
Speaker 1: four times one year. Congratulations. What was the biggest charge?
Speaker 1: The biggest one was a home invasion. What music were
Speaker 1: you listening to when you did that home invasion for Florida? Man,
Speaker 1: I listened kind of stuff man, y'all, I don't even
Speaker 1: know applies, Okay, you know, probably Kodak. Now that was
Speaker 1: that was a while ago. That was a while ago.
Speaker 1: All right, go that's the middle school that is. But
Speaker 1: you got your life together now, Yeah, definitely definitely that
Speaker 1: you got a family. Man, You're right that think, brother,
Speaker 1: thank you? You know what you got that when you
Speaker 1: say that once you once you see that, once you
Speaker 1: add that you got a family. That's like when a
Speaker 1: game banging, say on God and them he gonna do
Speaker 1: something to you want Somebody tell you, sit y'all out there,
Speaker 1: you got a family. That's when you get back through reality.
Speaker 1: He right, Hello, rests Christian out of Fully, Hey, Christian
Speaker 1: out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now Now, Charlotmagne is
Speaker 1: asked too old to be wilding out to this music. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know that's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen.
Speaker 1: It's balance of life. It's the yang and the yang,
Speaker 1: It's the drug deal and a professional because every morning
Speaker 1: I'm listening to King King Vod. I'm from Fully and
Speaker 1: I'm not from sixty third. I do that every morning
Speaker 1: and then not do my professional nine to five. And
Speaker 1: when I come home it's neck to Jason and Sulliman
Speaker 1: and all of that. So you need balance, a balance.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because
Speaker 1: because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning.
Speaker 1: I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I
Speaker 1: was doing my mantras, and then I'm going to therapy
Speaker 1: at three o'clock. But when I was driving in the work,
Speaker 1: it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving weight,
Speaker 1: were moving away, my God, really work all up and
Speaker 1: down ninety five. We got our world one page and
Speaker 1: ways we are professionals with our parents, we have our pta.
Speaker 1: They love us, but we turned up. That's what you
Speaker 1: gotta do with you. You sell Joe, you sell drugs
Speaker 1: in the morning hair for me. Oh that's right. She's
Speaker 1: representing for all the people out there who still want
Speaker 1: to do the bust of challenge. But that needs not
Speaker 1: what they used to be. But we outchair babies because
Speaker 1: I'm a mama and I'm not posting it. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: go hello, who's this yo? This kid is Amarcosol game
Speaker 1: game Bro? What's up? Bro? How old are you? Kid?
Speaker 1: Brokay bank that see y'all day. I'll bang that see
Speaker 1: y'a all day. I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 1: What's that mean? That's that's Christ Christ with that. I
Speaker 1: thought the seeds for christy all day. So when you're
Speaker 1: banging the Christ, when you're throwing up that, that seat
Speaker 1: for rice. Hey, sou's gang. What do you listen to?
Speaker 1: I listened to I ain't gonna lie, young thug whole lie.
Speaker 1: I listen to Drake. I listen know, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You know I told some uh I told some ya
Speaker 1: Adams maybe and there I like the balance. I love
Speaker 1: the balance, King from young Thug to Orlanda Adams, I
Speaker 1: love the balance. Now you're you know you got to
Speaker 1: You're twenty nine. Charlemagne forty two. Charlotmaye be banging out
Speaker 1: this every morning. Yeah he can. He can have a balance,
Speaker 1: but he can bang right to bang left. That's right,
Speaker 1: the middle, right, right middle. Yo can tell his daughters, Yo,
Speaker 1: kid clean kitchen. That's right on this on the set,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, on the set. You better have that
Speaker 1: kitchen clean. Hello? Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right? Listen this
Speaker 1: from the doub Bill in Ohio. Now, and Charlomagne too,
Speaker 1: only be gang gang in this morning. I have to
Speaker 1: second emotion, yes, but I have to add myself puts too.
Speaker 1: I'll be thinking I'm just ratchet. You talk about Luda
Speaker 1: Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty three years out
Speaker 1: with two kids that I have, me going. I ain't
Speaker 1: never peep talking about life, but I can't work talking
Speaker 1: about Gucci and Jesus. I'll be talking about shoot somebody
Speaker 1: when I'm mak thirteen years off. No, yes, you do
Speaker 1: have no moments. They do influencio. Now, listen, Jeez and Gucci,
Speaker 1: that was our era. We were still in our old
Speaker 1: wild out days when they was in their prime. These
Speaker 1: new these, these new Negroes different, these new Negroes to
Speaker 1: take you someplace even further. And Jez and Gucci then
Speaker 1: did don't telling you they didn't have you literally and
Speaker 1: don't you and don't act like you ain't never did
Speaker 1: no people up because you said you got three kids. Okay, honey,
Speaker 1: I got to and I have, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how to do it on my hand stand. Clearly didn't
Speaker 1: know how to do something. That man whoever was then
Speaker 1: baby daddies you got to do influent. They're doing fluent.
Speaker 1: And I have my ratchet moments too, when I've been
Speaker 1: a bust for eight years. The them, them baby daddies,
Speaker 1: you got release their ancestors in you for a reason.
Speaker 1: You know how to pepop something on something? Honey. Yes
Speaker 1: we're not on the handstand right, but on a back
Speaker 1: dad answer, Okay, all right, I'm telling you all right, Well,
Speaker 1: don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlemagne,
Speaker 1: the guy we are the Breakfast Club now Charlemagne. Yesterday
Speaker 1: got a chance to talk with Travis Scott. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: happened on This happened, just happened on Wednesday. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a couple of calls from a few folks
Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, Travis Scott, you know,
Speaker 1: wants to sit and have a conversation with you, you you know,
Speaker 1: to discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at
Speaker 1: after World in Houston, Texas. And that's what we did.
Speaker 1: And also how he wants to, you know, help make
Speaker 1: sure this this never happens again. All right, Well we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into that next and we're gonna take your
Speaker 1: calls after this too. So let's listen as a community,
Speaker 1: and you got questions, whatever you feel like you want
Speaker 1: to talk about after this interview, you can call us up.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one, Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Travis Scott, Travis Scott, what's up? Brother? What
Speaker 1: to do? How you feeling? Uh? You know I've been
Speaker 1: on about like a different type of like emotions, you know,
Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster. I mean, um, it gets so hard
Speaker 1: because I always felt like connected with my fans, and
Speaker 1: you know, I went through something, you know, and I
Speaker 1: feel like fans went through something and people's parents would
Speaker 1: do something, and you know it really, you know, it hurts.
Speaker 1: It hurts the community her to a city and it's
Speaker 1: just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of feelings, a lot of grieving and just you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get you wrapped my head around it. You know.
Speaker 1: I really just really wanted to be there and just
Speaker 1: you know, wish you can just kind of like hold everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, um, kind of just healed them, talk to them.
Speaker 1: I have conversations, you know. It just it just you know,
Speaker 1: it really just hurts me. What's your what's your intention
Speaker 1: with this conversation, Like like what do you hope to
Speaker 1: get out of this or what do you hope to
Speaker 1: get out I don't personally have an intention. I just
Speaker 1: feel like something happened and I feel like it's just
Speaker 1: I needed just a way to kind of like communicate,
Speaker 1: you know, the families are grieving, you know, as fans
Speaker 1: that experienced something, as fans that came to a show,
Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like I just have like
Speaker 1: a I've always been that person to always see things
Speaker 1: through the people that shared experiences with me, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's just things happening, you know, I just kind of
Speaker 1: you know, it's been such a such a time and
Speaker 1: I've just been trying to just really figure things out.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure you experiencing remorse, But was there
Speaker 1: any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation
Speaker 1: you may be facing. Well, I mean, yeah, of course
Speaker 1: you got people. It's just like, oh, like you know,
Speaker 1: but it's not about that, you know, your artists, you
Speaker 1: whoever people think you are. About the end of the day,
Speaker 1: You're a human being. You know, you have emotions, Um
Speaker 1: you want to communicate them emotions, you know, and trying
Speaker 1: to find the best way to communicate. How have you
Speaker 1: been coping with the aftermath of everything? Just just just emotionally,
Speaker 1: just you as a human. I've been just in a
Speaker 1: room for a while, you know, a lot of thoughts
Speaker 1: and luckily, you know, you have people around that you
Speaker 1: kind of outside ideas. But it just been you know,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for such a long time, and
Speaker 1: you know, you nothing like this ever happened, you know,
Speaker 1: so it just kind of like you just kind of
Speaker 1: figuring out and at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: these fans of your family, so you just feel like
Speaker 1: you lost lost something and you just like you go,
Speaker 1: you do these shows honestly to you know, for people
Speaker 1: to have the best experience, you know, and just to
Speaker 1: think to something like this happened. You just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out you know, you know, just wrap everything around.
Speaker 1: And so even just for the first couple a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, you know, it was just me sitting down,
Speaker 1: but I had to really channel these emotions to just remember, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if no one's gonna be a voice to
Speaker 1: these people, I gotta like kind of step up and
Speaker 1: kind of like be a voice to just figure out
Speaker 1: that you know, this isn't happened in the future, to
Speaker 1: show is period, you know what I'm saying, or figure
Speaker 1: out the bottom solution of what's going on, and just
Speaker 1: trying to ensure as people, you know, safety and what
Speaker 1: they're doing. You know, you said you was in the room,
Speaker 1: but then people saw you at the golf course, but
Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan, Mark Wahlberg, what what was that? Um?
Speaker 1: It was just Thanksgiving, um, you know, and they were there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just good people to have around in
Speaker 1: the community, and you know that was just more like
Speaker 1: a personal time, just trying to get around. I think
Speaker 1: like some fan came and asked for a photo. But yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that night. Man. When when did when
Speaker 1: did you find out things got as bad as they did? That?
Speaker 1: That's the question everybody wants to go. Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: really until like minutes until like the press conference, until
Speaker 1: I figured out exactly what happened. You know, um, even
Speaker 1: after the show, you know, you're just kind of hearing
Speaker 1: hearing things, but you don't know. I didn't know the
Speaker 1: exact details until you know, minutes before the press conference.
Speaker 1: And even at that moment you kind of just like wait,
Speaker 1: you know what, Like you know, you just went through
Speaker 1: something and it's just like wait what you know, So
Speaker 1: you didn't know people that actually passed away until minutes before,
Speaker 1: you know, which is you know, and at the thing,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, people pass out, you know people,
Speaker 1: you know, things happen at concerts, but something like that,
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, people said they are collectively, they
Speaker 1: collectively heard folks scream and help every time you stop
Speaker 1: the song to get your attention, did you did you
Speaker 1: hear any of those screams, nah man. And you know
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because I'm not I'm not artist too, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, anytime you can hear something like that, you
Speaker 1: want to stop the show. You want to make sure,
Speaker 1: you know, fans get the property and they need you know,
Speaker 1: And anytime I could see anything like that, I did,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I stopped like a couple of
Speaker 1: times to just make sure everybody was okay, and I
Speaker 1: just really just go off the you know, the fans
Speaker 1: energy as a collective, you know, call a response. And
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I just didn't hear that. You know,
Speaker 1: I got music, I got my inears, but I just didn't.
Speaker 1: I just didn't hear that. You know, break that down
Speaker 1: a little more like Nope, nobody knows what it's like
Speaker 1: being on stage except for other artists who speak to
Speaker 1: us from that perspective of what you can see in here.
Speaker 1: It was like fifty thousand people. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: got like a view, you know, feel like fifty thousand people.
Speaker 1: But it's like a see, you got lights, you got sound,
Speaker 1: you got pyro, you got you know, you got your inears,
Speaker 1: got your sound, got your mic, you know, got the music,
Speaker 1: You got bands, all type of you know, stuff going on,
Speaker 1: so it's it's hard to tell excitement from from from
Speaker 1: dangerous or to speak of course, everything kind of just
Speaker 1: sounds the same. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you just hear music, you know, and when you do,
Speaker 1: you just hear amongks of things. You know, but you
Speaker 1: just when you're in the show, you just into the show.
Speaker 1: And anytime you can feel anything closely, you know, you
Speaker 1: try to like definitely get to that. So so as
Speaker 1: an artist, how much can you actually, I guess help
Speaker 1: in that position. You can only help what you can see,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then what you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you's told, you know what I'm saying. Whenever it
Speaker 1: somebody tell you to stop, you just stop. But just
Speaker 1: wasn't it was It wasn't that night, huh. You know, raging.
Speaker 1: Raging has been a part of the culture, you know,
Speaker 1: of your shows. You know you didn't on this night,
Speaker 1: but in the past you've encouraged I guess the kind
Speaker 1: of energy that could have led to something like this happening.
Speaker 1: Do you think that contributed to the energy of this night? Yeah, nah,
Speaker 1: I think you know, It's something I've been working on
Speaker 1: you know, for a while, um of just creating these
Speaker 1: experiences and trying to show like the experiences happening in
Speaker 1: a safe environment. You know, us as artists, we trust
Speaker 1: you know, professionals to make sure that you know, things
Speaker 1: happen to people leave you safely, you know what I'm saying. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's not just like a regular show. You know,
Speaker 1: it felt like to me um as far as like
Speaker 1: you know, the energy people, it didn't feel like it
Speaker 1: was like you know, people didn't I don't people didn't
Speaker 1: show up there to just be harmful people just I
Speaker 1: think showed up to have a good time. And then
Speaker 1: you know, something unfortunate happened, and I think we really
Speaker 1: just got to figure out, you know what that was.
Speaker 1: You know, does raging make it harder to identify when
Speaker 1: something is going wrong in the crowd? Well, I think
Speaker 1: raging is just a you know, they have a textbook,
Speaker 1: you know definition. But you know, in the concerts and
Speaker 1: we've grown it to be just experience of having fun.
Speaker 1: It's not about just oh, harm, It's not about that.
Speaker 1: It's about just letting go and having fun. You know,
Speaker 1: help others, no, love each other. It's not about just
Speaker 1: you know, harm. That's not what it's all about. The
Speaker 1: show isn't just rambunctious for hour. You know, that's not
Speaker 1: what it is. Oh, trust me, I grew up on crunk,
Speaker 1: so you know I understand. You know, you just don't
Speaker 1: you don't want it to get two out of hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know the code. You know, the energy is high,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and that's why you want
Speaker 1: to just make sure that, you know, people are surrounded
Speaker 1: to make sure that people are just having the best experience.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say
Speaker 1: the energy is high, but you know you want to
Speaker 1: make sure that people are there for people to have
Speaker 1: like the best experience in league. Yeah, you want people
Speaker 1: to have a good time. You want people to get
Speaker 1: hurt at all. Yeah. Yeah, and God forbid passed away.
Speaker 1: And you know it's typical for you to stop a
Speaker 1: show to make sure fans in the crowd get to help,
Speaker 1: you know, they need They even footage of that night
Speaker 1: of you doing that during the set where you unable
Speaker 1: to sense like a difference in urgency this time around,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because you know, you stop the show,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, if someone's gonna happen. If
Speaker 1: it's something detrimental, somebody's gonna let you know, you know,
Speaker 1: or you know, the show just stop them. And you
Speaker 1: know that just wasn't the case. You know, I just
Speaker 1: kind of stop the show. You know, you just asked.
Speaker 1: You have a call of re sponsor the fans. Um
Speaker 1: you try to, you know, generally get a response, but
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't get like a hard stop,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you can't. You just don't. You
Speaker 1: just go off of what's going on, you know, which
Speaker 1: makes it so like so crazy because like, you know,
Speaker 1: if I feel like, if you know, anyone wouldn't know
Speaker 1: and it would have just been like it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gotten far, you know. All Right, we got more with
Speaker 1: Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on one conversation, so
Speaker 1: don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody
Speaker 1: is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlemagne the guy we are
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, we're
Speaker 1: playing a one on one interview with Travis Scott and Charlemagne.
Speaker 1: Travis Scott and Charlemagne spoke yesterday, so we're getting that
Speaker 1: back on this morning. Yeah, we chopped it up yesterday,
Speaker 1: you know. Um and you know, as you can see
Speaker 1: if you've been listening, he's being very open about the situation.
Speaker 1: But at Afterworld in Houston, Texas, the tragedy that happened
Speaker 1: on November fifth at after World and US in Texas.
Speaker 1: But you can you can see his brain, you know,
Speaker 1: going on just how to make sure this never happens again.
Speaker 1: But you know, keep listening, all right, and here's part two.
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club, Go Morning. What headspace were you
Speaker 1: when you posted that that initial that initial response video.
Speaker 1: I mean it was I think it has to been
Speaker 1: the night of you know, Um, so I was just
Speaker 1: in a headspace of just trying to get a communication
Speaker 1: out to my fans, you know, and I had literally
Speaker 1: no information, you know, so I was just trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out and just communicate to them. You know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just reacting, just literally just to get something
Speaker 1: to the fans. You know, there's people that showed up.
Speaker 1: Do you regret that initial video? Do you regret reacting
Speaker 1: in that way or not, like not having all the
Speaker 1: information before you said something. I mean yeah, because you know,
Speaker 1: you just don't know what's going on. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. I don't, you know, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get something out, you know, how my messages
Speaker 1: came out, I can't you know, I can only go
Speaker 1: off for that, you know what I know. But my
Speaker 1: Truman titches of it, you know, was really just trying
Speaker 1: to get a message across. And you know, I really
Speaker 1: wanted to just touch the fans, touching the families. You
Speaker 1: know that we here, we're grieving and we would get
Speaker 1: through this, you know, through this process. So what did
Speaker 1: you know in that first video? I mean at that time,
Speaker 1: I think we just knew that you know, people passed,
Speaker 1: you know, Um, we didn't know how you know that
Speaker 1: it was you know the news. You know, I think
Speaker 1: police came out and said something. Um, you know, you're
Speaker 1: just going off of what you're seeing in the in
Speaker 1: the in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing.
Speaker 1: And then as it did go on, you started collecting
Speaker 1: a little bit more information. They said there was they
Speaker 1: would like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon,
Speaker 1: like like hours before the show even started. Were you
Speaker 1: informed of any of that ahead of time? Well? No,
Speaker 1: like um and um, you know the police he came
Speaker 1: he came in um to my trailer and you know
Speaker 1: he congratulated me on you know, the event and you know,
Speaker 1: having something like this in Houston. You let me know
Speaker 1: that this it was, you know, mishap at the merged
Speaker 1: booth earlier. You know they shut it down with they
Speaker 1: opened it back up. They she even got it under control.
Speaker 1: You know, he was gonna step out and just let
Speaker 1: us know if we need anything, you know, have a
Speaker 1: good show. That was it. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: the criticism, you know from the tragedy they say is
Speaker 1: and the poor planning and understaffing of the end of
Speaker 1: the event. As an artist, that you have any involvement
Speaker 1: in any of that, well, I mean we just as
Speaker 1: an artist, you just do the creative and for this
Speaker 1: to be my festival, you know, I got you know,
Speaker 1: bring artists you know, creatively produce it and you know
Speaker 1: we're just trusting you know, the professionals to kind of
Speaker 1: just make sure that you know, people you know taking
Speaker 1: care of and you know, leaving safely. You know, I
Speaker 1: just can control what I can on the stage and
Speaker 1: then you know you have the professionals control what they
Speaker 1: can in the crowd. You know, it's just hard because
Speaker 1: as an artist, you know, you want to have like
Speaker 1: the best shows and you want to have the best experiences,
Speaker 1: and you you know, you link with professionals to handle
Speaker 1: that side of it, you know, and you know you
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on. I think that's what
Speaker 1: we got to figure out, you know, and figure out
Speaker 1: what happened there, how that happened. You know, you spoke
Speaker 1: on the Houston Police chief. His name is that Troy Finna.
Speaker 1: He came to you and he said he voiced concerns
Speaker 1: over the crowd energy. So what did you on your
Speaker 1: team like do with that information. Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: what the media. Um, I think that's what the media said.
Speaker 1: But I think I think it read too more so
Speaker 1: that he wanted us to He knew that our crowd was,
Speaker 1: you know, the type of crowd that comes it comes
Speaker 1: to a heavy crowd. So to communicate with him if
Speaker 1: we were doing anything outside of the week's itinerary, you know,
Speaker 1: um that week we were doing like a lot of
Speaker 1: charity stuff prior to the festival, so you know the
Speaker 1: security at most of the events. But you know, he
Speaker 1: was just letting us, you know, I guess in that statement,
Speaker 1: he was just saying, if we do anything outside of
Speaker 1: what we had on our itinerary, let him know. But
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't even get to that point. You know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, just you know, being a kicking it with
Speaker 1: you for a little bit, Like I can see that
Speaker 1: you know, this is Wayne real heavy on it. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: so how much do you feel a sense of responsibility
Speaker 1: for what happened at night? Well, you know, fans come
Speaker 1: to have a come to the show and have a
Speaker 1: good experience, you know, Um, and I have a responsibility
Speaker 1: to figure out what happened here. I have a responsibility
Speaker 1: to figure out the solution. And hopefully this takes the
Speaker 1: first step into you know, us as artists, you know,
Speaker 1: having that more insight of what's going on. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Um, the professionals to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, more of a response, whether it's
Speaker 1: whatever the problem is, you know, UM, to figure out
Speaker 1: that in the future and moving forward in concert safety,
Speaker 1: make sure it just never happened again. You know. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about those professionals, like how much how much
Speaker 1: responsibility do you think like Live Nation and score more.
Speaker 1: The promoters having all of this, I mean, they do
Speaker 1: their job of you know, setting these things up. So
Speaker 1: I mean I think they when we dial into what
Speaker 1: you know, specifically happen here, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: even they can kind of help, you know, figure out
Speaker 1: what happened in the sense um you know. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think collectively everyone needs
Speaker 1: to just figure out the bottom line solution. But you know,
Speaker 1: especially in concert safety, you know, definitely got to have
Speaker 1: you know, make sure that you know these things are
Speaker 1: you know, done right. You think he's afestival are too
Speaker 1: big man, pifty dollars people with a lot of people
Speaker 1: for anybody to their festivals that are bigger, you know,
Speaker 1: way bigger, And you know, I just think it's not
Speaker 1: about the maximum of it. I think it's about the
Speaker 1: attension to what's going on and how it's going on.
Speaker 1: And as long as that's handle, I feel like things
Speaker 1: can be you know, can go okay, We'll be okay,
Speaker 1: you know. But if you look at it through the
Speaker 1: history of festivals, you know, um, this isn't the first
Speaker 1: time happening. It's been a long history of this, you know.
Speaker 1: So I feel like if you look at the overall
Speaker 1: you know, view of that, and you kind of like dolling, Okay,
Speaker 1: what can we do better to fix this overall for
Speaker 1: general concert safety? I think we figure out the problem,
Speaker 1: you know, um and make it better for people to
Speaker 1: have better live experiences. Live Nation reportedly agreed to end
Speaker 1: the concert early after the Houston PD and the Fire
Speaker 1: Department declared it a match casualty event, but the concert
Speaker 1: continued for another forty minutes. Was there any ever any
Speaker 1: communication to you on stage that you should in this? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it just told me right after you know,
Speaker 1: the guests can get off stage, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: end the show, you know, and that's what we did.
Speaker 1: No other than that, there was no other communication, you know,
Speaker 1: so after after the guests what you mean, Yeah, after
Speaker 1: the guests comes out, okay, we're gonna we're gonna end
Speaker 1: the show. But it wasn't a communication on why, you know.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, that's what came through my ears,
Speaker 1: you know, So they didn't say stopping. Now, know. Wow,
Speaker 1: you feel like people are forcing more responsibility on you
Speaker 1: because you are the front man, because it was astral World.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, you know, I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 1: I'm the face of the festival. You know, I'm an artist,
Speaker 1: you know. UM, so yeah, you know, the media is
Speaker 1: you know, they yeah, they want to you know, put
Speaker 1: it on me, and but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't think it's more so about that.
Speaker 1: I think it's more so about um stepping up to
Speaker 1: figure out what the problem is. And I could take that.
Speaker 1: I could take you know, stepping up to figure out
Speaker 1: what the problem is. I could take stepping into figuring
Speaker 1: out the solution that had never happened again, because that's
Speaker 1: what I generally want to do in general, even just
Speaker 1: for my community. You know. The whole idea for why
Speaker 1: I brought this festival to the city was to you know,
Speaker 1: show that Houston is something different, you know, and show
Speaker 1: that there's all different types of lives, is all different
Speaker 1: type of energy, and just bring that morale to the
Speaker 1: city and just bring that energy to the city. So
Speaker 1: I definitely want to you know, step in to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, how can we fix this in the future,
Speaker 1: what can we do to you know, change these things.
Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like you did everything you
Speaker 1: possibly could to help in that situation? Yes, Yes, anything
Speaker 1: I physically care for sure, yes, and it just you know,
Speaker 1: if knowing you know what's going on, you know, you
Speaker 1: would just wish, you know, if you you know, couldn't
Speaker 1: something better, you know. But standing there, all right, we
Speaker 1: got more with Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on
Speaker 1: one conversation, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club, Good
Speaker 1: morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee, Charlemagne the guy.
Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club Now. Yesterday Charlemagne did a
Speaker 1: one on one interview with the Travis Scott. If you
Speaker 1: just joined us with play the first two parts. What's
Speaker 1: your YouTube page, Charlemagne, Yeah, it'll be up on my
Speaker 1: YouTube page shortly. My YouTube page is See the God
Speaker 1: C T H A G O D. And so you know,
Speaker 1: if you're already subscribe to my YouTube page, thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't post content often, but when I do, it's
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Speaker 1: up on my YouTube page shortly. All right, Well, let's
Speaker 1: get to part three. It's the Breakfast Club Good Morning.
Speaker 1: You know, we know that the families of the people
Speaker 1: who passed are definitely watching this right now, and you
Speaker 1: know there's nothing you could say to heal the trauma
Speaker 1: these families who lost loved ones are you know, are
Speaker 1: going through. But being that you know they're watching, what
Speaker 1: would you what would you say to them? Directly? I'll
Speaker 1: say to them that I'm I'm always here and that
Speaker 1: you know I'm you know, I'm I'm in this with
Speaker 1: you guys, and I love you, you you know, and I
Speaker 1: always you know, be there to help you guys heal
Speaker 1: to this. And I understand that they're going through you know,
Speaker 1: they're grieving right now and finally understanding right now and
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just like a right now thing.
Speaker 1: It's for everything. UM. And these people that came to
Speaker 1: the show, they are my family. And I've always had
Speaker 1: that connection to the people. I feel like they listen
Speaker 1: to the music or it came to my shows, and
Speaker 1: that's why I really, you know, it's really hard on
Speaker 1: me even just you know, t even like you know,
Speaker 1: and even because you know they ended up, they they
Speaker 1: they lost they lost their loved ones, you know, so
Speaker 1: it you know, it's it's tough. UM. I just want
Speaker 1: to always just be there for them and just always
Speaker 1: just be able to just know that I'm gonna fix this.
Speaker 1: For the future people, you know, and and fix this solution.
Speaker 1: Um and fix this problem, I mean, you know, um,
Speaker 1: and find a solution to making sure that this doesn't
Speaker 1: happen in the future. UM, and definitely be a number
Speaker 1: one of voice for this. You know. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's like one of the what we what we got
Speaker 1: to figure out because other than that, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the show goes on tomorrow or you know, something goes
Speaker 1: How does it? How does this get fixed? This could
Speaker 1: happen again, just happened before. Yeah, yeah, you're you're you're
Speaker 1: a father, you know, God forbid when your kids are
Speaker 1: of age, if they're in a situation like this, you
Speaker 1: know what you do put yourself in those parents shoes
Speaker 1: right now? What would what would you want to see
Speaker 1: come of this situation? If you I want to see
Speaker 1: people put their heads together. I would want to see
Speaker 1: people really figure this out, not take this lightly, you know, um,
Speaker 1: and really act on it. And that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: one of the main things that's important. I feel like
Speaker 1: they gotta just act on it. It can't just be
Speaker 1: like something that happens and it just roll over. We
Speaker 1: got to be something that's taken serious. And address seriously
Speaker 1: and things formed around it. Time and a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of time and a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: thinking power is spent on this, you know, and really
Speaker 1: fixing you know, whatever system it just needs to be fixed,
Speaker 1: you know, from the lawsuits to the media coverage to
Speaker 1: do Do you feel like you're personally under attack? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean you see a name in
Speaker 1: it and it and it's like but you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you step in these you know,
Speaker 1: you step you want to do a festival, and you
Speaker 1: know when we want to do things and you want
Speaker 1: to build up. You know, it comes with certain things, right,
Speaker 1: So I think it's all about how you respond to it.
Speaker 1: And I think it's all about how you react, right
Speaker 1: So I could feel that way, but I think more
Speaker 1: so about it's more about how I feel about the
Speaker 1: response that I that I that I'm that I care
Speaker 1: about more so, which is you know, actually, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to step in and you know, really step up
Speaker 1: to really fixing what's happening and and really step up
Speaker 1: for the safety or concert cours or people in just
Speaker 1: live spaces period. I wonder, I wonder is there a
Speaker 1: way to even prepare for this because nobody, like you said,
Speaker 1: when you're doing the planning for a show like this,
Speaker 1: nobody is planning for this to happen. So how do
Speaker 1: you how do you even prepare for something like this
Speaker 1: step I don't know. And I feel like when we
Speaker 1: get I feel like, when it comes out a little
Speaker 1: bit more how this could have happened. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's how we can kind of attack that. But even
Speaker 1: I was thinking in ways like tech solutions. You know,
Speaker 1: people come into these festivals with these bands that only
Speaker 1: scan you in right, you have you know, we have
Speaker 1: all type of tech now that can track your heart
Speaker 1: contract your you know, oxygen levels, contracting, the sick. You
Speaker 1: can put things now if you're gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: get lost. It's all type of ways now, like that
Speaker 1: can be the band that only gets you access to
Speaker 1: entry or to the food line or two food trucks
Speaker 1: can now be solvable to helping save lives, you know,
Speaker 1: can now be more of a response to people that
Speaker 1: are now on site and on ground. Um, I feel
Speaker 1: like that could be a way, or you know, even
Speaker 1: just figuring out what the exact solution, what the exact
Speaker 1: problem of it was, and dialing more into that. I
Speaker 1: think you can kind of. I feel like there is
Speaker 1: a way. I just think it needs to be time
Speaker 1: spent on figuring that figuring that out. Have you been
Speaker 1: able to have any personal conversations with any of the
Speaker 1: families who lost levels? I was able to, Um, But
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to just respect that, you know,
Speaker 1: the privacy of the conversation. And I'm thankful for them
Speaker 1: for even allowing me to have the conversation. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: did you feel when some of the families rejected your
Speaker 1: offer to pay for the funerals? All things are understandable,
Speaker 1: and you know, at the time, they're grieving and they're
Speaker 1: trying to find understanding, and you know, they want answers,
Speaker 1: and it's not about it's not about that, you know. UM,
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be here, you know, to want to
Speaker 1: help them, you know what I'm saying, And and it's
Speaker 1: it's not gonna you know, I gotta continue to show
Speaker 1: up for that, you know. UM, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that they knew that I was there for them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and continue to be there
Speaker 1: for them. UM. I think that's just more so what
Speaker 1: it's about for that Um yeah, some people say, um,
Speaker 1: your your your music played a role in this, Like
Speaker 1: I've seen them, you know, cite lyrics, you know that
Speaker 1: encouraged just kind of behavior. I've seen him say your
Speaker 1: music is demonic and this was a satanic ritual. You
Speaker 1: think your music is to blame? I mean no, I'm
Speaker 1: I mean why, I'm a man of God. So that's
Speaker 1: the first thing first, and um, you know, so it's
Speaker 1: just yeah, that's that. And you know your music is
Speaker 1: just like self expression, you know I'm saying. And at
Speaker 1: these shows, I feel like people kind of like look
Speaker 1: at things. And if you've been the Travis Show, it's
Speaker 1: it's been different layers of shows. You know. I think
Speaker 1: people are just you know, misconceptions and taking these seeing
Speaker 1: and you know all type of things. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: and I've I've I've took pride in trying to you know,
Speaker 1: grow from where I was when I first recorded music
Speaker 1: to now where I'm going in music. Um So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think people gotta and and that's one thing
Speaker 1: with me is just people gotta kind of you know,
Speaker 1: experience it sometimes. And I think that's what it was.
Speaker 1: You know, people were kind of like even before people
Speaker 1: were hearing about it, they come and experience it and
Speaker 1: taking away their own thing. And it's always going to
Speaker 1: be an outside opinion. But you know, for the ones
Speaker 1: that you know really believe in me and you know
Speaker 1: understand what. You know, what I'm about and what I'm doing. No,
Speaker 1: that's not That's not what I'm you know, preaching. I
Speaker 1: always preach like love, always preach you understanding. I always preach,
Speaker 1: you know, take care of your loved ones. Love each other.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Get out your ideas, never
Speaker 1: let never let yourselves be stop, you know, love one
Speaker 1: another and step into that, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that's a part of it. But the music does
Speaker 1: encourage people to be violent at these shows. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what the rage is about. I mean,
Speaker 1: most of the music is its me sometimes talking about
Speaker 1: what I see at the shows, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If I'm talking about the shows, you know, and so
Speaker 1: it's just that's just you know, the energy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But the energy isn't to come and start,
Speaker 1: you know, being ultra violent and just being violent and
Speaker 1: hurting each other. That's not That's not what it's about,
Speaker 1: all right, that's part three of the conversation and one
Speaker 1: on one conversation with Charlemagne and Travis Scott and I
Speaker 1: don't move. We got more coming up. I usually we
Speaker 1: do rumors, but this is, uh, this is more important
Speaker 1: this morning, so don't move. It's the Breakfast clubal morning parting.
Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy and Charlemagne the guy. We are
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, where
Speaker 1: playing back Charlomagne's one on one conversation with Travis Scott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we sat. I sat down with Travis Scott to you know,
Speaker 1: discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at after
Speaker 1: World in Houston, Texas. You know, clearly not the easy conversation,
Speaker 1: and you know he wants to discuss how he can
Speaker 1: help make sure this never happens again, which he doesn't
Speaker 1: even know what that looks like yet. But here's the conversation, right,
Speaker 1: and we'll take some calls after this. Eight hundred five
Speaker 1: eight five one five one. It's the Breakfast Club. His
Speaker 1: part four, you said you're a man of God. And
Speaker 1: when I even said that, you know they say your
Speaker 1: music in Satanic. I saw the face that you made.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think that even comes
Speaker 1: from Travis Scott is Satan and Travis scottis. I just
Speaker 1: think it's just things people collect. You know, people look
Speaker 1: at the Internet and they just collect and they look
Speaker 1: at things, and they look at visuals, and you know,
Speaker 1: we have all these theorists and people just thinking they're
Speaker 1: looking at visuals don't understand you know, just the idea
Speaker 1: of like what art maybe, or what what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do. You know, they're just making up your own message,
Speaker 1: especially when you're not out there like yelling the message
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, it's just yeah, and when
Speaker 1: they say this is a community event after a world Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they say a community event is a Satanic ritual?
Speaker 1: How does that? Yeah, It's like it's it's it's crazy
Speaker 1: because you know, it's like I do this for people
Speaker 1: to have a good time. You know, we have rides,
Speaker 1: we have games. You know, it's things for people to
Speaker 1: get off, creative experiences. It's not you know, the show
Speaker 1: is at the end of the day. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like you know and that show is just something based
Speaker 1: on on what's you know, just the's things. You know,
Speaker 1: It's not like what like why would we wake up
Speaker 1: one day and just trying to It's just that's just evil.
Speaker 1: It's not what we are part of. Not trying to
Speaker 1: be a part of that. We're trying to be a
Speaker 1: part of joy, trying to be a part of light,
Speaker 1: and trying to be a part of full blown happiness, love,
Speaker 1: you know, understanding people taking care of each other, you know, community,
Speaker 1: people to leave from these experiences and want to go
Speaker 1: out and do good. It's literally what we want, you know,
Speaker 1: we want to show them these things. You know, we
Speaker 1: put everything into it. You know, this is you know,
Speaker 1: this festival. You know, this is our third year, you know,
Speaker 1: so we try to put you know, we every year
Speaker 1: we put everything into the festival so people can enjoy it.
Speaker 1: You know. It's not about even just come perform that
Speaker 1: not that, you know, it's things for them to do
Speaker 1: all day and different artists for them to experience too.
Speaker 1: Have the trauma of just tragedy impacted your desire to
Speaker 1: perform in the future. I've always seen performances of art
Speaker 1: of healing for me. That's why I've always been so
Speaker 1: into it. You know, I don't know if you like,
Speaker 1: you know, looked at like some of the growth from
Speaker 1: where I'm trying to take performance. I've I've always tried that.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's the art of healing. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a moment where people have a mutual understanding,
Speaker 1: you know. And I feel like the first things first
Speaker 1: before anything is that we address you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of safety concerns. I think the first things first is
Speaker 1: that because not even just for me, you don't want
Speaker 1: other you know, artists to have to go and take
Speaker 1: a part of that trauma, to take a part of
Speaker 1: that experience, take a part of that, you know, over
Speaker 1: that fear. You don't want console girls to still be
Speaker 1: a part of that fear. They want you want, you
Speaker 1: want them to feel safe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I think that's just the first things first. And
Speaker 1: I think once we take major steps into moving in
Speaker 1: that direction, you know, I feel like, you know, it
Speaker 1: could be cool to for people to practice that healing again,
Speaker 1: you know, and understand that. I don't think people should
Speaker 1: run away from it and shy away from it. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a it's a form of healing,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, no matter what you do at
Speaker 1: any of your shows in the future, regardless of how
Speaker 1: much security, how much safety you put in place, you
Speaker 1: cannot control human behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can't control forty
Speaker 1: fifty thousand people doing whatever they do. Is that's scary?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but you know you also put trust
Speaker 1: in the fans too to you know, just have a
Speaker 1: good time. You know, you just reinstill that, and you
Speaker 1: know you continue to practice, you know, when you're on stage,
Speaker 1: should just remind them, you know, um, and even when
Speaker 1: they're there, to just constantly have messages to remind them like, yo,
Speaker 1: look if here to have a good time, we're not here.
Speaker 1: If you see somebody you know help another you know, um.
Speaker 1: I think it's just continue to reinstill that message. I
Speaker 1: think helped that mindset if Yeah, so after a world
Speaker 1: was one of you know, several ways you gave back
Speaker 1: to Houston, do you think you've you know, lost that
Speaker 1: privilege to do that. To be honest, I haven't really
Speaker 1: like thought about that because I've just been thinking about
Speaker 1: just community healing and you know, the family's healing and
Speaker 1: you know, all those things kind of building back up.
Speaker 1: Um that that could take forever. Though, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever truly heal yeah, from these
Speaker 1: type of situations and you know, but you know, through
Speaker 1: these things, you know, like I say, music is part
Speaker 1: of healing. And at the end of the day, um,
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't, you know, the Travis Scott
Speaker 1: show or you know, an asture or show you know,
Speaker 1: wasn't the bottom line fact that what happened here, you know?
Speaker 1: And I think we just got to figure out what
Speaker 1: that was, what happened. But you know, having a Travis
Speaker 1: Scott show and we've done shows you know, all over
Speaker 1: that wasn't the you know, what happened here? You know,
Speaker 1: something that happened here, you know, And that's why I
Speaker 1: want to fix it, because it can happen anywhere, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think once we get
Speaker 1: further along in that, I think, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it'd be more a little bit more receptive. I feel,
Speaker 1: did they make you feel judged? When you see videos,
Speaker 1: you know, circulating the other artists stopping their shows like
Speaker 1: to check on fans since since after World because almost
Speaker 1: like the insinuation from other artists that like, you didn't
Speaker 1: do enough, So we don't want to be like driving
Speaker 1: I'll take it as you know, they're just taking extra precautions,
Speaker 1: you know, because it might not have been something that
Speaker 1: you know, let's running through their mind at time before,
Speaker 1: and they're just taking extra precautions to you know, make
Speaker 1: sure they don't run through the same same problems. And
Speaker 1: I could commend them for that. You know. I've always
Speaker 1: done the same thing, you know, in my prior shows
Speaker 1: and at their shows, So you know, I feel them,
Speaker 1: you know. I just think it's been a little bit
Speaker 1: more people are more capturing it now, like because of
Speaker 1: what's going on. I think that's just how the media works.
Speaker 1: If the families are the victims, never forgive you. Will
Speaker 1: you ever be able to forgive yourself? Can you live
Speaker 1: with that? No? It's tough, you know, it's real tough,
Speaker 1: m because I want them to really know that my
Speaker 1: intentions wasn't you know, it wasn't the harm their family
Speaker 1: at all. It's for them to come and have a
Speaker 1: good experience. Um. I've always feel like I have a
Speaker 1: connection with my fans, you know, through the music. I
Speaker 1: feel like when they come to see me, and it's
Speaker 1: not just like oh they're coming, they're coming in, it's
Speaker 1: like a connection. Um. And you know, sometimes not knowing
Speaker 1: you know, people not understanding like artists and where we
Speaker 1: come from that it could be the connect and you know,
Speaker 1: I would love to you know, instead of understanding and
Speaker 1: you know, for them to truly know my heart's from.
Speaker 1: You know, it didn't come for them for me to
Speaker 1: horror and it wasn't about a show to keep you
Speaker 1: know at all. You know, it's a you know, it's
Speaker 1: about for them to have you know, one of the
Speaker 1: you know, a very good time and it's just traged
Speaker 1: that it didn't turn out that way. You know. So
Speaker 1: I guess my final question, man, who do who? Who does?
Speaker 1: Who does Travis Scott? Ultimately, I guess think it is
Speaker 1: responsible for this tragedy. You know, something tragic happening here. Well,
Speaker 1: what I've just been trying to, you know, get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of it is just what happened here, how
Speaker 1: it happened here? And you know, I think the families
Speaker 1: are old, you know that I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: the community is old that I feel like we're old
Speaker 1: that to just know what happened here. I don't want
Speaker 1: to just speak too soon. I just want to figure
Speaker 1: out what, you know, what happened. You know, you know
Speaker 1: they're going to pick this interview apart, So anything you
Speaker 1: want to say to your fans, to the family of
Speaker 1: people who lost loved ones, you know, before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. I mean, I just want to I
Speaker 1: want everyone and can just continue praying for the fans, Um.
Speaker 1: I want to continue. I want people to continue praying
Speaker 1: for the ones, the fans I was lost, you know.
Speaker 1: I want people to continue praying for the families. I
Speaker 1: want people to continue just reaching out for healing. I
Speaker 1: think the more we try to, you know, continue to
Speaker 1: let people grieve and continue to be there for people
Speaker 1: and you know, checking more people and you know, checking
Speaker 1: on your loved ones and just you know that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's just like one of the most important things.
Speaker 1: You know, UM, stand strong through this while we you know,
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on, you know, and and bring
Speaker 1: understanding to these families and to the communities. That's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna send healing energy to everybody involved,
Speaker 1: the families, you know, those who were lost, yourself, because
Speaker 1: nobody wants tragedies like just appe not at all, So
Speaker 1: preventing the moving for it is the only thing we
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Speaker 1: always love the ratchetness of life, even at forty two
Speaker 1: years old, married with three kids and a receding headline.
Speaker 1: I love ratchetness. I still do hood rat things with
Speaker 1: my friends. We just do it at our houses are
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Speaker 1: reason I'm giving myself donkey of to day is because
Speaker 1: this morning, when I was here by myself, I was
Speaker 1: talking about the domestic terrorists that you know hit the capitol,
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Speaker 1: this morning on title, and I feel I feel stupid.
Speaker 1: Just listen to how I've been sounding this morning. I've
Speaker 1: talked my way out of enough home invasions to know
Speaker 1: when something is a setup. Okay. I don't even know
Speaker 1: who the trust in government anymore, but I know who
Speaker 1: I do trust, and that's no damn body, okay. Period.
Speaker 1: And for some reason I started to saying, that's on cryp.
Speaker 1: But I'm not a cript. I don't even know why
Speaker 1: the hell I would even say something like that. All right,
Speaker 1: truth all again. Out there, I'm driving in this morning,
Speaker 1: I heard you shout out all the gangs. Then I
Speaker 1: don't know why I said, I'm gonna be asking you,
Speaker 1: you know how I feel aboudy be talking like that's
Speaker 1: im crip, and I don't think about it like I
Speaker 1: ain't even know crip. Why am I saying I'm walking
Speaker 1: in blue dollar gangs though, Mellow, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on the Pallo. We held it down for the
Speaker 1: morning while everybody wasn't there. Man appreciate that it's about time.
Speaker 1: I don't know who died it made Ju six nine,
Speaker 1: but I don't know who died and made me six nineties.
Speaker 1: And Mellow, there's quite a three problems with all those statements.
Speaker 1: Number One, I don't gang bang, never having my life.
Speaker 1: I'm not a crip, not a blood either. I'm nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm a man who has therapy to day at three pm.
Speaker 1: I'm a man who is scared to order a protein
Speaker 1: shake from around the corner here and hearing Triedbecca's because
Speaker 1: I feel like they keep giving me whole milk and
Speaker 1: not owning milk, and I don't have time to spend.
Speaker 1: I was on the toilet today and I get dairy bumps.
Speaker 1: My point was saying all of this and the reason
Speaker 1: I'm giving myself donkey that this is because I just
Speaker 1: feel stupid and donkey today. It's all about giving people
Speaker 1: to credit they deserve for being stupid. If you read
Speaker 1: my first book, the New York Times best selling Black Privilege,
Speaker 1: and you know, one of my laws in my book
Speaker 1: was always give people to credit they deserve for being stupid,
Speaker 1: including yourself. And that's what I'm doing right now. The
Speaker 1: reason I feel stupid is because I was writing in
Speaker 1: the work this morning, listening to the New South playlists
Speaker 1: on the title bro. There's some records on there that
Speaker 1: make my inner child smile. I mean, there are records
Speaker 1: on there that make the hood in me happy. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm from South Carolina, the eight four three eight or
Speaker 1: three eight six four. When you come from a certain environment,
Speaker 1: there is a certain energy that is always in you.
Speaker 1: And when you listen to certain music, certain music is
Speaker 1: so powerful and it would just have you feeling like
Speaker 1: you something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh shicsty guard
Speaker 1: up did for me. Okay, that's play poosh shanty guard en.
Speaker 1: Let me hear a little bit of that. Man, come,
Speaker 1: I just past them up, telling Godel to bunt up
Speaker 1: on the key to carmbers of the earn. Somebody apiece
Speaker 1: think I applied gold tie so I can put them
Speaker 1: in my mouth. Okay, that's what Off the Porch by
Speaker 1: my kid Glock did it for me. This morning, I
Speaker 1: was listening to the Roaring Twenties by Flow Million. Did
Speaker 1: my dog Little Boss from North Chalton, southcare a lot
Speaker 1: of He's on the New South title playlist and you've
Speaker 1: got a song called I Know It. He's from the
Speaker 1: same state as me from the Chuck. How can I
Speaker 1: not be influenced? Okay, how can I not be? You
Speaker 1: know what I feel like right now? I'm at the
Speaker 1: point where I'm like a wax on Minutes to Society,
Speaker 1: Salute to the good brother MCA. Make sure y'all check
Speaker 1: out that gangst the Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Network. I'm like a wax I don't did so
Speaker 1: much dirt that I just like to see other people
Speaker 1: do it. I like to hear it, I like to
Speaker 1: feel it. I like to see it. But I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it, and you don't have to hear certain records
Speaker 1: and it takes you back to your old while loud days. Yes,
Speaker 1: so I'm not alone here? Then, yeah, you are a
Speaker 1: little bit alone? Mean why why why am I alone?
Speaker 1: Because you have a ski mask on and you've been
Speaker 1: saying on slide. You judging me some on God, why
Speaker 1: are waiting a gun? Happy? A fake gun? You're right,
Speaker 1: let me put that away, Okay, I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: really makes you think about the influence this music is
Speaker 1: having on the youth. Because the influenced my grown ass
Speaker 1: this morning. But not because they might rap about violence
Speaker 1: and doing criminal activities and gang stuff, but because it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's just fun. I mean, listen to these country rap tis.
Speaker 1: Play some of that key clock off the porch. Just
Speaker 1: listen to this. It's like, Hey, I jumped up the porch,
Speaker 1: then I jumped in the boof. I used to rat
Speaker 1: t his piece. Now I got a new coop page.
Speaker 1: I'm hugging humble, but I'm playing it out cool. But
Speaker 1: don't get this shit ain't out on the news. Hey
Speaker 1: come on home, man, But hey, play some of that
Speaker 1: flow Milli Roaring twenties, and I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm all about the sacred masculine and the
Speaker 1: divine feminine. Okay, this right here is for the divine
Speaker 1: hood rating all of us. Play some of this roaring
Speaker 1: attorneys by flow Millie, Okay, making me feeling come home, man,
Speaker 1: that's for all the negroes that want to do the
Speaker 1: Busteed Challenge, but our needs not what they used to be. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: hey play a snippet of my dog Little Boss. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know it's South Carolina all day. Come on now,
Speaker 1: she said, like when I saw something first one, I
Speaker 1: woke up and I said, I know more now. She said,
Speaker 1: she like counster and I'm getting that money and I said,
Speaker 1: I know it. They're like, I got that bag on
Speaker 1: and that's funny man and beat that they're look at
Speaker 1: that scrap on being because I know that they after me.
Speaker 1: That's when I saw something. I said, And do you
Speaker 1: feel me? Fly on trap? Okay, you doing y'a dramas
Speaker 1: on guiding them? Give me the biggest feet hall. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got more coming up. Next to don't Move, Happy Holidays,
Speaker 1: Don't go Anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Come Morning, the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, Power one O five one, The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody's DJ
Speaker 1: Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building. That's right,
Speaker 1: he's the head of Instagram. Hi Adam. How do I
Speaker 1: say your last name? I don't want to mess it up, Sarissi, Adam,
Speaker 1: what's up? My gulco? Thanks for having men joining us.
Speaker 1: Tell people what that meets the head of Instagram, CEO
Speaker 1: of Instagram, What does that mean? It means that if
Speaker 1: something goes wrong on Instagram, it's on me, and if
Speaker 1: something goes right, it's probably on my team. But generally
Speaker 1: I spend as much my time as I can helping
Speaker 1: us think about where we're going, what we need to
Speaker 1: do better, what we need to double down on because
Speaker 1: it's going well, and building the team to help us
Speaker 1: get it done. Let's get to the nity gritty because
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people on social media when
Speaker 1: you said you would coming here. They have questions, Please
Speaker 1: bring them. Let's discuss the election first, right because, as
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of fake news that was
Speaker 1: going around, and there were a lot of issues with
Speaker 1: Facebook with fake news. You know, how do you guys
Speaker 1: take responsibility for your platforms with COVID, with fake news
Speaker 1: and things like that happening, making sure that that information
Speaker 1: doesn't get spread out. Social media as a technology isn't
Speaker 1: good and it isn't bad. It just is. And social
Speaker 1: media specifically is a great amplifier in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: and it can amplify good and it can amplify bad,
Speaker 1: and so it's our responsibility to do all we can
Speaker 1: to amplify the good and mitigate the bad. And you
Speaker 1: see both spread on the platform, right. You saw the
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement spread on social media. You saw
Speaker 1: me too spread on social media. But you also see
Speaker 1: things like misinformation spread on social media. And so we
Speaker 1: try to figure out all the different things that we
Speaker 1: can do to identify problems and address them and then
Speaker 1: also rethink the core of what we do and how
Speaker 1: we do it to create better outcomes. And that work
Speaker 1: never ends. And so I mean you brought up a
Speaker 1: couple of different things there, but on misinformation specifically, what
Speaker 1: we do is we work with third party fact checkers,
Speaker 1: So people who do this for a living, who do
Speaker 1: this for publications, we give them access to what's shared
Speaker 1: on the platform, and they can dispute things. They can
Speaker 1: say that this isn't true and here's a link to why.
Speaker 1: And when that happens, we reduce the spread of that
Speaker 1: when we label things and we give people links to
Speaker 1: good information but we don't take it off the platform
Speaker 1: entirely unless there's a safety risk. So for things like
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen or vaccine related misinformation, we just stick it
Speaker 1: off the platform entirely. So at this point we spend
Speaker 1: billions of dollars a year and there are tens of
Speaker 1: thousands of people between the engineers, the reviewers, and everything
Speaker 1: else focused on safety. How liable should social media platforms
Speaker 1: be in regards to lawsuits, like if I want to
Speaker 1: sue somebody for sland our deformation, should I be able
Speaker 1: to name the social media platform? Yeah? So this is
Speaker 1: actually one of the big legal debates right now. Right
Speaker 1: and here in the US they talk a lot about
Speaker 1: Section to thirty, which gives technology platforms essentially no liability,
Speaker 1: but the people who post that content are liable in
Speaker 1: different countries around the world that that may not be
Speaker 1: the case. Actually it isn't the case. Yea. South Africa
Speaker 1: don't play. Yeah, no, a lot of Europe they don't play.
Speaker 1: And so the thing that I think is that it's
Speaker 1: important that company needs are held to account to take
Speaker 1: measures to keep people safe. But I don't think we
Speaker 1: can go all the way to have a social media
Speaker 1: platform be accountable for every single thing that is said
Speaker 1: on that platform by every person, because they're over a
Speaker 1: billion people on Instagram at this point, and there's there's
Speaker 1: no version of that where there aren't going to be
Speaker 1: people with problematic opinions, racists, et cetera are going to
Speaker 1: show up. I'm not going to check that at the
Speaker 1: door when they open up Instagram. But I do think
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we can just you know, wipe
Speaker 1: a hand. The question is where are we on that spectrum?
Speaker 1: What do you say to people that say that, you know,
Speaker 1: social media, Instagram per se, it's really affecting people's mental
Speaker 1: where people are are you know, thinking of committing suicide
Speaker 1: and you know, having problems in school and self esteem
Speaker 1: and all of those things due to that platform. So
Speaker 1: there's a range here, and I think they are all
Speaker 1: really important questions. There are problems that are really acute,
Speaker 1: right So if you are struggling with self injury or suicide,
Speaker 1: that is I mean, that's high stakes, that's really problematic.
Speaker 1: And we've done a lot of work in that area
Speaker 1: to try and be thoughtful about what we share, like
Speaker 1: getting people access to good information or to help. So,
Speaker 1: for instance, right now, if we think you are a
Speaker 1: risk to yourself, we will do it, will direct uture
Speaker 1: resources or even in some extreme cases resources to you.
Speaker 1: How do you report that? Right in the reason I'm
Speaker 1: stopping you there, Let's say you have a family member
Speaker 1: that goals and it's off doing some wild still a
Speaker 1: lot of times them themselves don't know that they're doing
Speaker 1: wild stuff, but a family member might. How does that
Speaker 1: family member report that to Instagram and say, Hey, my
Speaker 1: sisters doing this, or my aunt is doing this, or
Speaker 1: my brother is doing this. How does that work? So
Speaker 1: in every post, be a photo, video or anything else
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you can always report something. There's a little
Speaker 1: dot dot Do you really check it? Because sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't get checked because there's so many
Speaker 1: people that make fake MV pages. I feel like every
Speaker 1: day we've got room number, we definitely check it. But
Speaker 1: the challenge is the truth is the reports are actually
Speaker 1: mostly not of things that are problem. There's a ton
Speaker 1: of people who are like, I don't like the way
Speaker 1: I look in this photo, and I'm going to report it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, it's it's actually the vast Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the vast majority, which is imagine that, Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is why we can't rely only on the reports. We
Speaker 1: definitely check the reports. We prioritize them, right, So if
Speaker 1: someone's reporting someone's a risk to themselves, we're gonna look
Speaker 1: at that much faster than someone's reporting something as being nudity,
Speaker 1: for instance. But we have to also build technology ourselves
Speaker 1: to go out and try and identify things, because if
Speaker 1: someone's going to be a risk to themselves, that's where
Speaker 1: you're going live and you're talking about hurting yourself. We
Speaker 1: don't want to wait for someone to hopefully report that.
Speaker 1: By the way, we don't have a religious opinion on
Speaker 1: the female nipple. The reason why we don't allow nudaty
Speaker 1: on Instagram is because it is actually a safety issue
Speaker 1: because we can't verify age and we can't verify consent.
Speaker 1: I think social media sometimes protects biggest though, it protects
Speaker 1: biggest in regard to racism homophobia, because I've posted videos
Speaker 1: of like racists getting punched in the face right for
Speaker 1: blatantly being racist, and then Instagram we'll remove it. We
Speaker 1: definitely make mistake. We also take a lot of flak
Speaker 1: for letting people say a lot of crap that we
Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree with in general, we're gonna try and
Speaker 1: bias towards letting people say what they want on the platform,
Speaker 1: and we try to only take content down when there's
Speaker 1: a safety risk. Should the FCC regulate social media like
Speaker 1: they do radio and TV? They can, and they should.
Speaker 1: I think regulation is important. I think that social media
Speaker 1: is too big to not have governments have an opinion
Speaker 1: about what should and should not be. Okay. Now, the
Speaker 1: type of regulation, though, is particularly important. Some regulation could
Speaker 1: be really helpful, particularly clarifying what is and what is
Speaker 1: not you know, a certain problem out of content type.
Speaker 1: So for instance, we have a hate speech policy. Hate
Speaker 1: speech protects people based on nine different types of traits,
Speaker 1: so you know, race, gender, religion, the things you would expect.
Speaker 1: That's our definition. But you have to be careful because
Speaker 1: if you get too aggressive with regulation, or you write
Speaker 1: regulation in certain ways, you might incentivize social platforms to
Speaker 1: censor more. Right, if you're going to find them a
Speaker 1: big amount every time they make a mistake and that's
Speaker 1: something up, they're going to take down more because this
Speaker 1: is their financial interest to do so. Now, another question
Speaker 1: I have. You were talking about wanting to make sure
Speaker 1: I saw you said that you wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that creatives actually start making more money on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: I know they have like the tips that you can
Speaker 1: do on YouTube and things like that. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: some ways that you guys? I see the Instagram ads
Speaker 1: you can also sign up for, which I'm not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent share what that is. So if you want
Speaker 1: to explain how people can make money on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: there's a range of ways we can help creators make
Speaker 1: a living. Largely they fall into three categories. The first
Speaker 1: is essentially commerce, So you can do branded content, right,
Speaker 1: so you get paid by a brand off of Instagram
Speaker 1: or off of Facebook, and then you do a deal
Speaker 1: and your post on Instagram to promote whatever that is.
Speaker 1: But then we also need to do things that allow
Speaker 1: people to pay the creators that they love directly, right,
Speaker 1: So we're interested in things like tipping. So we've got
Speaker 1: badges for instance, when you go live right now exploring
Speaker 1: if we can support subscripe. Maybe you could have a
Speaker 1: group of people who pay you five bucks a month
Speaker 1: and you get them exclusive content that only they get,
Speaker 1: and you can do that right through Instagram. It's almost
Speaker 1: like the only fans type of thing where you can
Speaker 1: have a subscription, but now the stuff that they subscribe to,
Speaker 1: can you put whatever you want up there now? Because
Speaker 1: you know who your subscribers are, right, you know their age.
Speaker 1: It's almost like you could take that now, you can
Speaker 1: show a nipple, you know, because you know who your
Speaker 1: subscribers are. All right, yes and no, So if there's
Speaker 1: a safety issue, we're still going to have to take
Speaker 1: it down. But I mean, for instance, we do do
Speaker 1: age gating for certain types of content, so things like
Speaker 1: today tobacco, that kind of thing. So we could we
Speaker 1: could we could explore that we haven't actually talked about
Speaker 1: that morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee shall I
Speaker 1: mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still
Speaker 1: kicking in with Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram. Is
Speaker 1: it a trick to it? Though? You know, at a
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, hey, it's a trick when
Speaker 1: I post my videos because sometimes I post a video
Speaker 1: or picture and I get this amount of likes, and
Speaker 1: then sometimes it's on this page and I get this
Speaker 1: amount of likes. Yeah, like, you know, was a trick
Speaker 1: to maybe. I'm like, I'm not giving up my tricks.
Speaker 1: I would I'm trying to figure too. I've got an account,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to build up my following. The unfortunate truth
Speaker 1: is there's no perfect answer, and it's the million dollar question.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of things I'd say. One is
Speaker 1: it's important to first when you're using whether it's Instagram
Speaker 1: or any other social media platform, to be intentional about
Speaker 1: what you're using it for. Are using it to promote
Speaker 1: a cause that you believe, and are using it as
Speaker 1: a business directly, are using it to just build up
Speaker 1: awareness of your business, and you make your money elsewhere.
Speaker 1: The other thing to be honest about is that every
Speaker 1: audience is different, right, So what's going to work best
Speaker 1: for your followers isn't necessarily probably not going to work
Speaker 1: with what's best for my followers. So you and I
Speaker 1: both have to experiment. We've got to try things, see
Speaker 1: what works, see what doesn't. But there are other things
Speaker 1: that are more broadly true. So I do think it's
Speaker 1: generally true to give people a good sense of what
Speaker 1: you're about and what you do. So I try to
Speaker 1: build up these sort of patterns. So I do a
Speaker 1: video every week where I talk about what's happening on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Video also this seems to be a lot of interest
Speaker 1: across the entire world and always consuming more videos. So
Speaker 1: some of those basics are more universal, but a lot
Speaker 1: of it is more nuanced. Unfortunately, what is Instagram learning
Speaker 1: from the black creators on TikTok so the black strike
Speaker 1: on TikTok, Black credit struck on TikTok, I think is
Speaker 1: mostly about credit right too often Black creators will create
Speaker 1: amazing things and not creat credit for it, and someone else,
Speaker 1: often not black, who will reap all the benefits. But
Speaker 1: we're trying to understand not just that, but the broader
Speaker 1: set of issues and the big set of issues that
Speaker 1: we've heard from the black community here in the States
Speaker 1: and over the last year and a half are things
Speaker 1: around censorship, shadow banning, racism on the platform, having your
Speaker 1: content taken down when you fight back against the bigot
Speaker 1: or a racist. And so we feel like the credit
Speaker 1: stuff that TikTok is dealing with is important and we're
Speaker 1: looking we're working on that, but we really got to
Speaker 1: first do better on the basics because we don't really
Speaker 1: even have a right to play in like the creator
Speaker 1: monetization space unless we can get better on the issues
Speaker 1: around content takedowns, account suspensions like little Boosey. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, little Boozy gonna stop calling you out now
Speaker 1: he's been saying you know who. Now surprise, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: he hasn't sit them in my DM. You know now.
Speaker 1: Adam was sorry, you guy right here. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see him later on. Adam Moossary, Adam Mossary. It's
Speaker 1: Mossi with seven essays. Now what about limiting screen? No no,
Speaker 1: why doesn't Boozy keep getting taken down? We gotta drug
Speaker 1: the line somewhere and it's it's a nudity policy. We
Speaker 1: try to be clear. You can appeal, but if you
Speaker 1: get too many strikes to think you know what's nudity?
Speaker 1: Because I flagged Kim Kardashi in ten thousand times. Remember
Speaker 1: when Kim posted a picture Why would you do it?
Speaker 1: Because they don't take cut down, but they take everybody
Speaker 1: out there. So I flagged it. If she posts a
Speaker 1: picture of nipples getting taken down. If the guy, no, guy,
Speaker 1: this is one. This is one of my man. Nipples
Speaker 1: are allowed, so I should be clear one of one
Speaker 1: of one of my favorite tricks that people who are
Speaker 1: sort of nudity advocates talk about One of my favorite
Speaker 1: tricks that they do is they'll take a mail nipple,
Speaker 1: cut it out, and paste the mail nipple on a
Speaker 1: female's breast and post that just to test our policies.
Speaker 1: If we figure it out, that's allowed. You know, This
Speaker 1: is what it means to be a platform with as
Speaker 1: much reach as we have, is you're gonna have people
Speaker 1: try to push you and figure things out. Does Instagram
Speaker 1: understanding cult it all? Right? Because you have people like
Speaker 1: little Duvall Little Booty whose page always get taken down,
Speaker 1: and it could be for doing things like using the
Speaker 1: N word, but they're using it in like the context
Speaker 1: of that's my N word, but it'll get taken down
Speaker 1: for like racial slurs really like yeah, yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: tough because no, we don't understand culture perfectly at all,
Speaker 1: just super clear, you can't at our scale. And so
Speaker 1: there are things where we just have to draw the
Speaker 1: line or define a rule that is practical for us
Speaker 1: to actually enforce, because the perfect rule is going to
Speaker 1: be nuanced, but the perfect rule we cannot enforce accurately
Speaker 1: and consider certainly tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions
Speaker 1: of times a day or whatever it is. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: there are certain racial slurs that you cannot say on Instagram,
Speaker 1: regardless of how you identify. Now, that's just because we
Speaker 1: don't think we would be able to get it right
Speaker 1: enough of the time. We would make too many mistakes otherwise,
Speaker 1: and it's better for us to be transparent about the
Speaker 1: rule and then be able to act accordingly. And you
Speaker 1: can make your own decision. What about limiting screen time
Speaker 1: because I know that was a discussion that people have.
Speaker 1: You know, your phone will tell you how long you've
Speaker 1: been on all of these apps. Is that something in
Speaker 1: Instagram that people are concerned about? Like? Are you concerned
Speaker 1: about that people being addicted and constantly on their phone?
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it's everything in moderation. But I
Speaker 1: also want to be clear there's a difference between like addiction,
Speaker 1: which is a compulsion to do something that is unhealthy
Speaker 1: for you that you cannot stop, and just problematic use
Speaker 1: or overuse people that are addicted to social media, though
Speaker 1: some are and some just use it too much. And
Speaker 1: so what we try to do is decide for the difference.
Speaker 1: So if you're in a really problematic state, how can
Speaker 1: we intervene? How can we let you know how much
Speaker 1: time you're spending, etc. But if you're just using it
Speaker 1: a lot, the things that we need to do might
Speaker 1: be different. Replace what you say with cocaine, some people
Speaker 1: aren't addictive, but some people just use it too much.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can talk about that same
Speaker 1: thing with the same thing, because if you're using it
Speaker 1: too much, you clearly have like a draw to it
Speaker 1: that you can't control. Right, But I think cocaine is
Speaker 1: a drug, and a drug has serious medical, you know, implications.
Speaker 1: I think social media will in the future, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think psychologically, emotionally, mentally, we do not. Even we're
Speaker 1: not even scratching the surface of social media is impact
Speaker 1: people in the future, I think that's reasonable. But I
Speaker 1: also think that every new technology is first met with
Speaker 1: a wave of optimism. People are really excited about what
Speaker 1: it can do, then a huge wave of concern, and
Speaker 1: then ideally you get to some sort of balance, and
Speaker 1: by the way, as you get through it, the media
Speaker 1: itself or the technology itself gets better. I think social
Speaker 1: media is a technology that's just said earlier in that phase.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure use of social media can affect
Speaker 1: your health. Like because communicating with anyone can affect your health,
Speaker 1: and social media is just a way to connect. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that because I feel like social media is
Speaker 1: changing human behavior in real life, is making people's collective
Speaker 1: attention spans decrease, is making people in secure. I think
Speaker 1: it's fueling narcissism. So how do you make it a
Speaker 1: more mentally healthy environment? I think that there's really three
Speaker 1: types of work I personally think we have to do.
Speaker 1: The first is to identify acute issues. You know, if
Speaker 1: people who are at risk of self injury are becoming
Speaker 1: more at risk, how do we address that. How do
Speaker 1: we make sure that they can still do what a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are struggling with self injury deal
Speaker 1: on social media, which is get support, get help. It's
Speaker 1: important to talk about your experience. Maybe you're you know,
Speaker 1: your thirty days clean and you want to celebrate that.
Speaker 1: How do we allow that content on Instagram without content
Speaker 1: that celebrates self injury? So, you know, identify qute issues,
Speaker 1: Identify solutions that work never ends, keep working there. Then
Speaker 1: I think we need to identify areas where we can
Speaker 1: go further, where we can be innovative, where we can
Speaker 1: define new ways of addressing the issues. Like one of
Speaker 1: the ones that we're been focused on for about two
Speaker 1: years now, I was bullying, And so then what can
Speaker 1: we do there? And there were trying to invent new things,
Speaker 1: things like restricts. Right, restrict allows you to block someone
Speaker 1: without you knowing about it. That's my favorite thing to
Speaker 1: do because they're still posting, but they don't know that
Speaker 1: no one can see it about them. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: that was from our work on bullying. But then the
Speaker 1: third area is what are the core things about how
Speaker 1: Instagram works or social media works that we need to rethink.
Speaker 1: That's why we experimented with and made it so that
Speaker 1: people could pick to have light counts to be private.
Speaker 1: For instance, are there core things that we need to
Speaker 1: rethink because they are creating too much bad or too
Speaker 1: many problems and not enough good. What about taking away likes?
Speaker 1: I remember that was a flirtatious idea. Yeah, so the
Speaker 1: idea is to allow you to well, originally was to
Speaker 1: hide light counts so you could still like things, but
Speaker 1: it would be less of a popularity contest, but you
Speaker 1: could see it but not everybody else. Yes, it turned
Speaker 1: out to be really polarizing. It didn't seem to change
Speaker 1: much about how people felt about Instagram. We tried to
Speaker 1: see if it changed people well being. We try to
Speaker 1: measure well being your question by asking people sending These
Speaker 1: are surveys. So essentially we work with academics, professionals, experts
Speaker 1: outside of the company who have defined all sorts of
Speaker 1: ways of measuring well being. So what they did is
Speaker 1: they designed a set of questions that whose answers correlate.
Speaker 1: So if you if you say you have a support network,
Speaker 1: if you say you are not lonely, these things correlate
Speaker 1: with real world wellbeing outcomes over the long run. And
Speaker 1: so then we try to run surveys on Instagram and
Speaker 1: ask people those same questions, and we try to see
Speaker 1: for things like hiding lightcounts that change how people answer
Speaker 1: those questions. It didn't. But some people love this and
Speaker 1: some people hated it. And so what we did is,
Speaker 1: you said, all right, well, given that, let's give people
Speaker 1: a choice. You can decide you can hide light counts
Speaker 1: and not have to be part of your Instagram experience,
Speaker 1: or you can have light counts. Well more, we have
Speaker 1: more with the head of Instagram, Adam Musseri. When we
Speaker 1: come back is the Breakfast Club, Good morning, the Breakfast Club,
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Speaker 1: Adam Museri, the head of Instagram, tired of seeing if
Speaker 1: I like her booty or not. I'm tired of bitcoin
Speaker 1: because you should invest with this person. The word is sam.
Speaker 1: I didn't know where he was talking about it something
Speaker 1: long and hard. I don't get that one, but go ahead,
Speaker 1: I get that so much like this, like it's ridiculous
Speaker 1: and why stops? Yeah, so some of this happens just
Speaker 1: because we make the mistakes and we think you're interested
Speaker 1: in things that you're not interested in. And so right
Speaker 1: now you can say, right, all, yeah, why would why
Speaker 1: would you think? Are the ads? Are there just a
Speaker 1: regular like spam much like comments comments spam? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you're talking about spam in the comments, right. I thought
Speaker 1: you were talking about like in your explore. No, this
Speaker 1: is spam you're getting. If you're getting, you want a
Speaker 1: long and hardened and explore. It's like trying to address this.
Speaker 1: I'm ordering no, pedith, ordering penis and lament. This some delicate,
Speaker 1: delicate you know, answer to this question was like, like,
Speaker 1: what are you following? Man? Okay, way better now, Thank
Speaker 1: you for making me feel good about it. If I
Speaker 1: wasn't to explore with you know it teach their if
Speaker 1: it's no judgments, No, it's in the comment picture right
Speaker 1: now and within spams. Yeah, so this is yeah, so
Speaker 1: the bots and the spam comments. So we are working
Speaker 1: on this. One of the things is we've made less
Speaker 1: progress on this issue as some other issues because we've
Speaker 1: prioritized things like safety issues. But we've gotten better at bots.
Speaker 1: But the thing is the spammer is and the bots
Speaker 1: they've gotten more sophisticated. So we do things we look like, okay,
Speaker 1: if you comment every second of the day, twenty four
Speaker 1: hours a day, you're not a person. You're so like,
Speaker 1: we shut you down. But they've gotten sophisticated. They mask
Speaker 1: themselves at different phones, they do it on different intervals,
Speaker 1: they pretend to sleep, they do all of this stuff,
Speaker 1: and so it's it's a it's an arms race, so
Speaker 1: to speak. As we get better at addressing issues, they
Speaker 1: work around those issues, and then we got to get
Speaker 1: better addressing those new issues. I should hire them. They
Speaker 1: seem pretty We try, we try, we know we try
Speaker 1: what about getting verified? People always want to know how
Speaker 1: can I get ver Yes, there's people that are like,
Speaker 1: I can pay if you pay me, I can get
Speaker 1: you a scam scam, No, don't um. So you can
Speaker 1: apply in the app the point of verification though it's
Speaker 1: not supposed to be a status symbol. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a way for people who are getting impersonated to
Speaker 1: be able to signal to the world what their real
Speaker 1: account is. Now it's turned into a status symbol. I
Speaker 1: get that, but that was not ever the intent. You
Speaker 1: can apply in the app. What we look for essentially
Speaker 1: is notability. We try to evaluate it using third parties,
Speaker 1: so we basically look for press about you. There's no
Speaker 1: in them follow our account. If you don't get approved
Speaker 1: in the vast majority of the cases, it's because we
Speaker 1: couldn't find enough press about you. Let's say I've search
Speaker 1: cars and then all I'll get his cars, car car car,
Speaker 1: car car car, or if I search your phones, or
Speaker 1: I'll get his phone phone and phone phonell do you
Speaker 1: guys do that? And can we take that off so
Speaker 1: I don't have to see that all day long? Forgive
Speaker 1: search and I can be talking about something we don't listen.
Speaker 1: We don't listen. My wife thinks I'm a liar on
Speaker 1: this too. It's a real cast and fight at the home.
Speaker 1: Um okay, So on the search or on ads more broadly,
Speaker 1: so this is this adds where this will happens. Ye,
Speaker 1: they'll explore. It is a little tippy too, like if
Speaker 1: I express a little bit too much interest in something,
Speaker 1: I get a lot of that thing for a couple
Speaker 1: of whiles. So we're trying to get to better um
Speaker 1: balance there. But on ads you can't. You can go
Speaker 1: to your ad preferences and you can say I'm interested in.
Speaker 1: It will show you what we think you're interested in,
Speaker 1: and you can change them. Um. And so that's over
Speaker 1: undersettings under your profile and or ad preferences for listening.
Speaker 1: We are not listening. It would be a gross violation
Speaker 1: of policy. Would also drain your battery, your phone would
Speaker 1: turn on like you would be able to know it.
Speaker 1: But all the time we get accused of this. I
Speaker 1: think what is happening is one sometimes the advertising is
Speaker 1: actually working. Like you saw it a couple of times
Speaker 1: and then you thought about it, and then you know,
Speaker 1: and then you noticed it and you talked about it.
Speaker 1: I don't have a bible to make you put you
Speaker 1: I will put my hand on it. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to I'm not going to convince you. Clearly that's
Speaker 1: a weird thing to do. If you want me to
Speaker 1: do it, I'll do it. Um. I think also is
Speaker 1: that we don't just show you ads based on what
Speaker 1: we know about you. We show you ads based on
Speaker 1: you know what your friends seem to like. We call
Speaker 1: that collaborative filtering. And ads are good, like we're good
Speaker 1: at figuring out what you're interested in. We don't always
Speaker 1: get it right. We make mistakes. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't like ads, but we think that ads
Speaker 1: fundamentally they allow small businesses to play on an equal
Speaker 1: playing field with big businesses. And then it woul happened
Speaker 1: to you. Have you been talking about something then you
Speaker 1: look down at your Instagram the ad for it pops up.
Speaker 1: Not directly, no, but I've definitely they had things been like,
Speaker 1: how the hell did we know I was interested in that?
Speaker 1: How many meanings did you have to be in the president?
Speaker 1: That was that a huge conversation. It was an intense conversation,
Speaker 1: but it was an intensity of circumstances we didn't have
Speaker 1: a policy for what happens when a sitting president incites
Speaker 1: a riot to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of
Speaker 1: power to a new president. There's sort of the new
Speaker 1: territory for all of us lying this whole presidency. Though, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could have took them down early on, right, But
Speaker 1: we don't have a policy against lye. We have a
Speaker 1: policy against lying when they're safety risks. You could make
Speaker 1: that case here. But we also want to make sure
Speaker 1: that politicians can get health accountable for their actions, and
Speaker 1: so they've had historically in certain areas different rules, the
Speaker 1: same way public figures have different rules. But that was
Speaker 1: an intense moment, and we have this thing that we
Speaker 1: call the Oversight Board now because a lot of these
Speaker 1: decisions we think shouldn't be made by us directly, So
Speaker 1: we sort of built this board. It's independent, and we
Speaker 1: made this decision and then we asked them for their
Speaker 1: opinion on it. Basically, um, they did. But what I
Speaker 1: would have done, which they said, is like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: would have banned them too, But you have to have
Speaker 1: a policy. You can't just like do it something, you know,
Speaker 1: as a one off. And I think that was fair.
Speaker 1: And then we defined a policy now and he suspended
Speaker 1: four two years. Who owns the pictures that you post?
Speaker 1: Because it was a rumor that you own a pictures
Speaker 1: so we own a pictures. Instagram does not own the pictures. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once every year or two we get a false declaration
Speaker 1: that like, you don't own your stuff and if you
Speaker 1: repost this random chain letter, you own it and it
Speaker 1: goes viral. But then we try to go on correct
Speaker 1: that as quickly as possible and make sure people know
Speaker 1: what the real rules are. I wonder about the intention.
Speaker 1: I wonder what the intention was when they first started
Speaker 1: a lot of these sites. But also when you see
Speaker 1: Frankenstein becoming Frankenstein, when do you know, maybe it might
Speaker 1: be time to take down Frankenstein's Frankenstein the whole thing.
Speaker 1: At this point, it feels like it like when you
Speaker 1: watch movies, like when you watch the communities, like the
Speaker 1: Social Dilemma on Netflix. What goes through your mind that
Speaker 1: specific one, though, I felt like it was a little
Speaker 1: bit dramatic triplet programmers like in a Star Trek place
Speaker 1: deciding what you see is clearly on how things work.
Speaker 1: But overall I thought they were bringing up in portant
Speaker 1: issues that should be talked about. I thought that's a
Speaker 1: healthy thing. Now, Look I'm biased. I want to recognize
Speaker 1: that up front, but I really believe that we do
Speaker 1: a lot of good in the world. We help a
Speaker 1: lot of people express themselves. We help them go straight
Speaker 1: to their fans or to the or to their friends,
Speaker 1: they don't have to go to traditional media. We will
Speaker 1: help small businesses around the world. We help marginalized communities
Speaker 1: around the world in a lot of ways. But there's
Speaker 1: bad that comes to now. I think there's more good
Speaker 1: than bad. So I don't think that it makes sense that,
Speaker 1: you know, put a bullet in Frankenstein to use your
Speaker 1: metaphor right the playing field for people too in a
Speaker 1: huge way. Like I love to see how like a
Speaker 1: Lala Milan or a DC young Fly, how some of
Speaker 1: these creators have been able to really use social media
Speaker 1: to get the platforms that they have now. But then
Speaker 1: I hate qing on and then I hate the fact
Speaker 1: that there was an attempted cool of the government on January.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I really feel like we're headed do
Speaker 1: some orson wells war the world type because of nobody
Speaker 1: cares about the truth on social media when the lives
Speaker 1: more entertained. Well, I think confirmation bias is a thing,
Speaker 1: and that's the oldest time. People want to hear what
Speaker 1: they agree with and they don't want to hear what
Speaker 1: they don't agree with. Just give me the keys to
Speaker 1: the nuclear code. Just tell me. Just give me and
Speaker 1: I can just go in and delete pages. That's it.
Speaker 1: I can do that. I got time. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of people, it's a lot of I got it. Just
Speaker 1: give me the keys to the nuclear code. But the
Speaker 1: concerns you have, like I said before, we had those
Speaker 1: concerns about every major new technology, particularly around the ones
Speaker 1: that change how people communicate. One of the big concerns
Speaker 1: about writing when it first existed was that there was
Speaker 1: no one there to disagree with you. Well, those people
Speaker 1: get held liable though, Like you can sue an author
Speaker 1: for playing the defamation. That's why they take to change
Speaker 1: names in books and things of that nature. But for
Speaker 1: certain issues, yeah, But for other issues, no, you could
Speaker 1: say something, you can make a case for something that
Speaker 1: is really problematic in a bunch of different ways, put
Speaker 1: it out there and it doesn't violate along in any country.
Speaker 1: You can sue for defamation on social media too. Though, right,
Speaker 1: if somebody says something about you that's defamatory and not true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the question is who's accountable is the person
Speaker 1: who said it or the platforms or the platform And
Speaker 1: I think the platforms need to be held accountable for
Speaker 1: taking not just reasonable, but like meaningful measures to reduce
Speaker 1: these problems. I don't think it's sustainable for us to
Speaker 1: be accountable for everything everybody says, because if we were,
Speaker 1: we would have to take down so much content that
Speaker 1: you would have a huge censorship issue. We appreciate you
Speaker 1: for joining us so little do I mean little Boozy's
Speaker 1: pages down because of nudity? Sorry do boh? I don't
Speaker 1: know off the top of that. I'll look it up though. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that make the hood and me happy. Okay, I'm from
Speaker 1: South Carolina the eight four three eight or three eighty
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Speaker 1: is a certain energy that is always in you. And
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Speaker 1: I like to feel it. I like to see it.
Speaker 1: But I'm not doing it, and you don't have to
Speaker 1: hear certain records and it takes you back to your
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Speaker 1: they might rap about violence of doing criminal activities and
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Speaker 1: But I'm a jealous to see thee my palace. What
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do because I want she and she and
Speaker 1: she and they loved them some me. I ain't agree.
Speaker 1: They're gonna say, bite you. I ain't you gotta lie
Speaker 1: to I ain't even do that. You could trust on
Speaker 1: speaker when you're with your people, because you know the timing.
Speaker 1: I'm home. I ain't wanna she and she and she
Speaker 1: and they loved them some me. I can't even speed
Speaker 1: to all them. So I call her on the FaceTime.
Speaker 1: She gonna pick up on the first ring. We gotta
Speaker 1: rather my damn finger. I will ever tell us so
Speaker 1: on on on Girl we Bro Life of a Goddess.
Speaker 1: It's topic top the phone called eight hundred five eight
Speaker 1: five one oh five. Want to join it to the
Speaker 1: discussion with the breakfast club. Talk about it morning, everybody
Speaker 1: in stej Envy Angela, yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are
Speaker 1: the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne
Speaker 1: came to work this morning, a little um under the influence, yeah,
Speaker 1: under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay,
Speaker 1: I deserve to be in breakfast Club Court. This morning,
Speaker 1: I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on
Speaker 1: the radio and I just feel like I'm too old
Speaker 1: and still be influenced by music. Ital I promise you.
Speaker 1: It literally was the New South Playlist on title listening
Speaker 1: to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my
Speaker 1: Man Little Boss. I know it and you know, pooh
Speaker 1: shsty guard up. It really really, really really took me
Speaker 1: to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so
Speaker 1: we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to
Speaker 1: be uh influenced by me music? Right now? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Bro, you know what I'm saying. I really
Speaker 1: don't And I have no reason for saying that other
Speaker 1: than I just really enjoy it. Are we going through
Speaker 1: a middle life practice? I don't think so. You still,
Speaker 1: you know, like Charlemagne, you have a ski mask drink
Speaker 1: drinking Starbucks? Like? What is that? It's called balance? Is
Speaker 1: that a boogie gangster? Like? What it's called balance? Think?
Speaker 1: Game bankers don't need caffeine, But I don't know you
Speaker 1: need energy to do a drive by too? Okay, you
Speaker 1: think I have just put money on people's head without uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a little latte Okay, Hello, who's this? This
Speaker 1: is hey Virginia. You know you know your boy's up
Speaker 1: here with a ski mask on, drinking a latte. I
Speaker 1: love it with a pinky in the AD's a little weird.
Speaker 1: We have to lift, we have to do. I'm for three.
Speaker 1: I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, I'll be in my car
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'll be you know, I could be a
Speaker 1: fuck I could be a sweetheart. But listen, keep doing it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about. Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello,
Speaker 1: who's this guy's crazy? John? Hey? John? What are you
Speaker 1: calling from? Called from Florida? Yell? You know what, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good thing when you got a
Speaker 1: bunch of Florida people around. John Charlota Mane has a
Speaker 1: ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a latte
Speaker 1: with his pinky in the finger. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he wants to do with that pinky. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but but you think his ass is too old? Fallers, man,
Speaker 1: sit your old ass down somewhere. Man, how old are you, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three. Oh you're thirty three? Okay, you're still
Speaker 1: living out your old wild out days. You're still cheating
Speaker 1: on your girl. I did that. I did that when
Speaker 1: I was swing. I got arrested phot times and one year. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: What was the biggest charge? The biggest one was a
Speaker 1: home invasion. What music were you listening to when you
Speaker 1: did that home invasion? I'm for Florida, man, I listen
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Man, y'all, I don't even know applies. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know probably Kodak. Now that was that was a
Speaker 1: while ago. That was a while ago. All right, go
Speaker 1: that's the middle school that there. But you got your
Speaker 1: life together now? Yeah, definitely definitely that you got a family.
Speaker 1: You're right that boy, brother, thank you? You know what
Speaker 1: got that? When you say that once you once you
Speaker 1: see that, once you add that you got a family.
Speaker 1: That's like when a gang banger say on God and them,
Speaker 1: he gonna do something to you want somebody tell you,
Speaker 1: sit you all down, you got a family. That's when
Speaker 1: you get back through reality. He right, Hello, Christian out
Speaker 1: of fully Hey, Christian out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now,
Speaker 1: now Charlottagne, is ass too old to be wilding out
Speaker 1: to this music? No, I don't know that's what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. Listen, it's balance of life. It's
Speaker 1: the yang and the yang, It's the drug deal and
Speaker 1: a professional because every morning I'm listening to King King Vond,
Speaker 1: I'm from fully and I'm not from I do that
Speaker 1: every morning and then I do my professional nine to
Speaker 1: five and when I come home with Zaca, Jackal Felliman
Speaker 1: and all of that. So you need balance, a balance.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because
Speaker 1: because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning,
Speaker 1: I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I
Speaker 1: was doing my mantras and then I'm going to therapy
Speaker 1: at three o'clock. But when I was dripping in the work,
Speaker 1: it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving
Speaker 1: a weight, were moving away. I really like that work.
Speaker 1: All up and down ninety five. We got our page
Speaker 1: and waves. We are professionals. With our parents, we have
Speaker 1: our pta, they love us, but we curved up. That's
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. What you you, Joe, you sell
Speaker 1: drugs in the morning, right hair for me doing it,
Speaker 1: and that's right. She's representing for all the people out
Speaker 1: there who still want to do the Bucket Challenge, but
Speaker 1: that needs not what they used to be. But we
Speaker 1: out chair babies because I'm a mama and I'm not
Speaker 1: posting it. Hey, let's go Hello. Who's this? Yo? The kids?
Speaker 1: It from Arcosol? Gag game? Bro? What's up? Bro? How
Speaker 1: old are you can't I'm putting brokay ban see y'all day.
Speaker 1: I'll bank that see y'a all day. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what that means. What's that means? Bro? That's that's
Speaker 1: right Christ? With that? I thought the seeds for Christ
Speaker 1: all day. So when you're banging the Christ, when you're
Speaker 1: throwing up that that seat for Christ? Hey, south gang,
Speaker 1: what do you listen to? I listened to I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie Young Thug, whole lie. I listen to Drake.
Speaker 1: I listened know. I ain't gonna lie. You know, I
Speaker 1: told some uh, I thought some maybe y'all Adams maybe?
Speaker 1: And I like the balance. I love the balance King
Speaker 1: from Young Thug to Orlanda Adams. I love the balance.
Speaker 1: Now you you got you nine? Charlotta made forty two.
Speaker 1: Charlotte maybe be banging out this every morning? Yeah he can,
Speaker 1: he can he can have balance. He can bang right,
Speaker 1: bang left. That's right in the middle, right, right, middle. Yo,
Speaker 1: you can tell his daughter Joe kid clean kitchen. That's
Speaker 1: right on this on the set, Oh my goodness, on
Speaker 1: the set. You better have that kitchen clean. Hello. Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right?
Speaker 1: Listen this from the dead be in Ohio now in
Speaker 1: Charlemagne too, only be Gang Gang in this morning. I'd
Speaker 1: have to second emotion, yes, but I have to add
Speaker 1: myself put too. I'd be thinking, I'm just ratchet. You
Speaker 1: talk about Luda Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty
Speaker 1: three years out with two kids that I had me going.
Speaker 1: I ain't ever peep popping out life. But I can't
Speaker 1: work talking about Gucci and Jeezy, I'll be talking I'm
Speaker 1: about to shoot somebody when I'm made years off. No, yes,
Speaker 1: you do have your momas. They do influence. Shoo. Now listen,
Speaker 1: Jeez and Gucci. That was our error. We were still
Speaker 1: in our old wild out days when they was in
Speaker 1: their prime. These new these these new negroes different, these
Speaker 1: new Negroes to take you someplace even further than Jeez
Speaker 1: and Gucci. Them didn't they're telling you they didn't have
Speaker 1: you on way literally and don't you and don't act
Speaker 1: like you ain't never did no people off because you
Speaker 1: said you got three kids. Okay, honey, I got to
Speaker 1: and I have, but I don't know how to do
Speaker 1: it on my hand stand. Clearly don't know how to
Speaker 1: do something that man whoever you like. Then, baby daddies
Speaker 1: you got to do eli. They're doing fluid doing fluid
Speaker 1: from and I have my rapting moments too when I've
Speaker 1: been a food bus driker for eight years. The them
Speaker 1: baby daddys you got released their ancestors in you for
Speaker 1: a reason. You know how to pop something on something? Honey.
Speaker 1: Yes we're not on the hand stand right but on
Speaker 1: a back dad stand. Okay, I'm telling you all right,
Speaker 1: well don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, you got a
Speaker 1: positive note positive notice simply this. Maybe you're not healing
Speaker 1: because you're trying to be who you were before the trauma.
Speaker 1: That person doesn't exist anymore because there's a new you
Speaker 1: trying to be born. Breathe life into that person. Breakfast
Speaker 1: club you finish with, y'all dumb