Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headhours at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. That's got here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. There's Mickey waving Nowallas fans out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is, It's time for up here Thursday edition of
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Can hear you, mag You can't hear me? No,
Speaker 1: we can't. I can't hear myself doing a bit right. No, No,
Speaker 1: I can't hear myself. I love the way mannikin over there,
Speaker 1: what's going on? I love sitting across from Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: because whenever Bicky makes a comment and I can see
Speaker 1: the facial expressions of Rob of the other side. We
Speaker 1: need a split screen at sometime where when when Mickey
Speaker 1: talks and also have a camera on Rob his reaction.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty funny. Huh. We probably can't everything else.
Speaker 1: Garrison can figure everything out, and so if it makes
Speaker 1: for good TV or good podcasts, then Kent Garrison, who
Speaker 1: is at hard at work right now fixing Mickey's problem.
Speaker 1: It's the best part of the show today. Here we go.
Speaker 1: You know the two you know, the two old Muppet
Speaker 1: guys that sit up in the theater, you know and
Speaker 1: yeah them yeah grumpy, I forget their name. Kent knows them.
Speaker 1: There it is, there you go, that's Mickey Sackla Man,
Speaker 1: he's a cartoon character. We love the cameo appearance on
Speaker 1: camera appearance of Kent Garrison. Here is Carroll back the
Speaker 1: curtain and we try to get Mickey situated for this
Speaker 1: Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys. How are you doing, Brian
Speaker 1: brought us. I'm doing well, Bill, Thank you very much. Right.
Speaker 1: I was gonna have Mickey if he practiced yesterday on
Speaker 1: the offensive defensive lines yesterday, I did. You don't need
Speaker 1: the mic Oh, I don't need the mic You can
Speaker 1: have two mics. No, it makes you feel powerful. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that one work? No? You need you need to
Speaker 1: pull the other one up. You need you do a
Speaker 1: coach o lsu. I didn't need the microphone. We were hopeful, Mickey.
Speaker 1: That was a hope, but no good. I can turn
Speaker 1: it around. There you go. Uh man, what a mess yesterday?
Speaker 1: Huh did you guys? I mean you see that injury report.
Speaker 1: Injury report, Yeah, nine guys sitting out. Did they have
Speaker 1: did they have any offensive defensive lineman practice? Yes? They
Speaker 1: didn't look like they had enough defensive linemen to get
Speaker 1: through practice. Now they did sign a guy back to
Speaker 1: the practice squad. I think those guys needed to be used. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh no, Yeah, there's no question the for the scout
Speaker 1: team or no for the for the first team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had to dip into the practice squad. I think
Speaker 1: that I didn't know that there was a kid named
Speaker 1: Ringo on this team. I didn't either. I asked Christian
Speaker 1: and Ringo. Christian Ringo was actually actually was starting for
Speaker 1: you yesterday when I saw them starting the skeleton drills
Speaker 1: and I saw sixty eight in there, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I thought Daniel Ross Daniel Rolsons changed his name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it was like, what he's hurt. It's like,
Speaker 1: who's sixty eight? Rob goes Ringo? Christian Ringo is the
Speaker 1: unsung star of practice yesterday, Ringo star. Oh yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: you went a long way again there. Yeah, there's people
Speaker 1: right now. They don't know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Driving off the road. I liked it though, I liked it.
Speaker 1: I like least someone did it. Don't come easy, right,
Speaker 1: I recognized it. I recognized the reference. I hope he
Speaker 1: has a good game, so we can use that on
Speaker 1: the website. Yes, that's right, all that would be good. Yes,
Speaker 1: Ringo Stars. So who all? Who all set out practice yesterday? There, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you got me down to name them all? Please do? Tavon, Austin,
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, Malik Collins, David Irving, Shawn Lee's, Zach Martin,
Speaker 1: Daniel Ross, Tyrann Smith, and Antoine Woods. All right, so
Speaker 1: now of that group, there's what nine or so nine
Speaker 1: of that group? Then? Which ones are significant for this week?
Speaker 1: Because we already knew the Tavans and Sean Lee's of
Speaker 1: the world were out and probably David Irving. And I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit worried about Taco Charles Tennessee, that's the one.
Speaker 1: And I'm worried about right now too, because I was
Speaker 1: kind of feeling like that that was going to be.
Speaker 1: Oh he's got a shoulder, Well, they can kind of
Speaker 1: work through it. It doesn't appear that's the case. I mean,
Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced in a couple of weeks. Now he
Speaker 1: didn't play this week. He's not probably going to play
Speaker 1: against the Redskins, so that would be what missing three
Speaker 1: games for him? Now, did he missed the Tennessee game? Now?
Speaker 1: He I think that's when he got hurt. He can't
Speaker 1: remember what I had for breakfast. Think he came out.
Speaker 1: He came out early in the ear in the Tennessee game.
Speaker 1: See that's man. They're they're getting down to a point
Speaker 1: with some of these guys. And you know, Mickey was
Speaker 1: talking about the other day having to move Crawford around
Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do, you know, playing tackle,
Speaker 1: playing end. You know, I mean you're kind of hopeful
Speaker 1: that they could just keep him in a spot. But
Speaker 1: the numbers at that defensive end spot, in the tackle spot, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, okay, so what's what's concussion protocol? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that. I guess that that concerns
Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, especially two games in five days. He's
Speaker 1: coming up here too. Yeah. The fact that Malik Collins
Speaker 1: came back and finished the game I think is encouraging. Yes,
Speaker 1: Now you hope he can get back into practice today.
Speaker 1: We'll see. Um. You guys mentioned David Irving, like Brian said,
Speaker 1: you got a close stretch of two games here. I
Speaker 1: think Garrett. I think Garrett said he was hoping he
Speaker 1: could get closer as the week goes on. But if
Speaker 1: he can't practice this week, now you turn around and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's tough if you focus focus on Mickey right now, Mickey,
Speaker 1: can I say what I said to the guys yesterday
Speaker 1: And they didn't understand the saying as saying. I said
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen Haigner hair of him and yeah, and
Speaker 1: they were like, what what what did you do with
Speaker 1: David Irvin? Though you did the traditional yeah he up,
Speaker 1: ye out. I mean, we haven't seen him, have we No?
Speaker 1: And in locker room, I have not seen it. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been on the practice field in two weeks. Every
Speaker 1: time you get a question, it seems like Garrett gets
Speaker 1: a question about him, he's kind of like, nothing new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not really like, oh, you know what question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're hopeful that we was the word he used, hopeful
Speaker 1: and and and and sort of the same thing for Tacco.
Speaker 1: I think he said, we're hoping he can do something
Speaker 1: by the end of the week. When I talked to Tacco,
Speaker 1: he didn't sound like he was very optimistic of getting
Speaker 1: back in time. So what's the rotation look like. Well,
Speaker 1: you got Randy Gregory and well, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of that depends on what happens inside, because if you
Speaker 1: if you need Crawford inside, then Gregory's a sixty play out,
Speaker 1: a sixty snap game. Yeah, Gregory be out there and
Speaker 1: then and then Armstrong would probably have to play both sides,
Speaker 1: is what you would get, which he did at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. Yeah, he did at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. Uh, Sunday, you may have to call
Speaker 1: up a guy from the practice squad. It's possible. What's
Speaker 1: the name, Shooty shoot shoo too? Yeah, shoot too. Jason
Speaker 1: was Jason was very careful when he said it because
Speaker 1: he got it out wrong because he's a defensive town
Speaker 1: like you. Well, I just help us side. Potentially you
Speaker 1: may have to do that. Well again, you know Antoine Woods,
Speaker 1: we'll see. That's another one. I mean, if he can
Speaker 1: be cleared, that helps your numbers. Randy Gregory played mate
Speaker 1: played as many snaps as he had all season long,
Speaker 1: forty out of I think it was fifty, no, sixty two, right,
Speaker 1: forty out of sixty two. He had to play, and
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence played almost every snap. I think he missed
Speaker 1: like four. This could be a tough game on these
Speaker 1: guys too, especially the way these Cats throw the ball around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be rushing all especially he turns into a
Speaker 1: track meet to you know, where neither defense is really
Speaker 1: able to kind of get off the field and you're
Speaker 1: having to deal with a lot of running around. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really important that they get Antoine Woods
Speaker 1: and MALIEK Collins back. I don't know about um Ross
Speaker 1: because he got hurt before the game ever started, a
Speaker 1: calf injury. That didn't sound every time they've had or
Speaker 1: had a calf injury. That's kind of linger at all
Speaker 1: he did out there when we were out there yesterday
Speaker 1: was walking. Yeah. I didn't see him even get on
Speaker 1: their resistance cards. Yeah, so that's that's somewhat troubling. That is.
Speaker 1: And with Matt Ryan, he's been sacked seventeen times this season,
Speaker 1: and when you look around the league, I mean, how
Speaker 1: many times has Dak been sag Now he's up around thirty,
Speaker 1: I can tell you something like that. And which is
Speaker 1: so that is on the lower end of sacks in
Speaker 1: the in the league right now, U thirty two, and
Speaker 1: where Matt Ryan seems to have more problems is a
Speaker 1: rush up the middle, Yeah, get getting his face yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's and that's where that's where you have to
Speaker 1: find ways to deal with him, because he does even
Speaker 1: though he's a uttering guy, he does have enough mobility
Speaker 1: to escape. I mean, he's not gonna make you think
Speaker 1: of Cam Newton or Alex Smith of those guys running
Speaker 1: the ball. But occasionally he'll be sneaky quick with a
Speaker 1: with a way that you know he'll get in trouble
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he'll run six yards to
Speaker 1: get a first down. So you have to be alert
Speaker 1: for that. But his mobility, I think is one of
Speaker 1: his strengths. His ability to throw on the move is
Speaker 1: one of his strengths, just as good throwing left to
Speaker 1: the right as he you know, he could do both.
Speaker 1: And so you know, it's one of those games where
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to chase receivers. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, when we broke down plays where he scrambled
Speaker 1: around and Julio Jones is running and Snow is running
Speaker 1: and they never stop, and yeah, if you stop, they
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna hit you on a big play.
Speaker 1: That's my biggest fear in this game. I don't fear
Speaker 1: Atlanta's defense. I fear Atlanta's offense throwing the football, especially
Speaker 1: at home. Yeah, home away. I mean, I know people
Speaker 1: are gonna say no broad Us. It was clear Eveland,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know Cleveland played them well. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think though, if you the games, I
Speaker 1: watched them play like you said, Bill, at home Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I mean, they were track meets. It was
Speaker 1: up and down the field. It was big pass plays.
Speaker 1: I mean, this team and where this team is different
Speaker 1: than Philadelphia is they're good in the red zone. There's
Speaker 1: a good red zone team. So you know that's something else.
Speaker 1: If Dallas has been good on defense. As a red
Speaker 1: zone team, you made people kick fueld goals. So let's see,
Speaker 1: we've also does We'll talk about this yesterday, Bill. They're
Speaker 1: a good third down team, and they're a good third
Speaker 1: and long team. I mean they convert about half of
Speaker 1: their third and longs. They stay on the field. Cowboys
Speaker 1: did a better job getting off the field last game.
Speaker 1: But Brian's right, this could be first team to twenty
Speaker 1: eight thirty. Maybe we'll get one of those high school
Speaker 1: games sixty two to fifty six. What do you think
Speaker 1: of the odds of that? Well, I don't know, Well,
Speaker 1: what are the odds in high school? I see every score.
Speaker 1: I look at Atlanta. Atlanta though they've had their struggles.
Speaker 1: Now they get on Jones back, but you know what
Speaker 1: kind of game shape is he going to be? And
Speaker 1: he'll help. But this this secondary's given up since game
Speaker 1: was thirty seven thirty six games something like that, and
Speaker 1: then the Saints game was an overtime game that went
Speaker 1: really high as well. So to double down on what
Speaker 1: Route Rob said about third down, they convert fifty one
Speaker 1: point three percent of their third downs and their opponents
Speaker 1: convert fifty one point nine percent. There you go, third downs.
Speaker 1: They've had their problem. Sixty two fifty six. You've got
Speaker 1: the Cowboys my score right there. You got the Cowboys
Speaker 1: third down conversion rates there, it's gone up over thirty percent,
Speaker 1: is it now? It's finally over thirty Yeah, So sad
Speaker 1: that again, let's reinforce that Atlanta's third down conversion rate
Speaker 1: point and Cowboyoys thirty five six. And this is only
Speaker 1: the second week it's been over thirty percent. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they were eight for sixteen in the Philadelphia, but the
Speaker 1: last two games with the Marii Cooper on the Gold
Speaker 1: it's forty eight point one. There you go. That's no
Speaker 1: coincidence or just better blocking though, too, Mick. Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: been right about blocking all along. These teams are kind
Speaker 1: of a reverse of each other. You know, defensively, Atlanta
Speaker 1: hasn't found consistency offensively. We know about the Cowboys struggles,
Speaker 1: but I think how many catches do Amari have so
Speaker 1: far through two eleven for one thirty three and I
Speaker 1: think ten of them have gone for first downs they have?
Speaker 1: There you go. I mean he is he keeps those
Speaker 1: drives going. And the one thing they're missing right now
Speaker 1: is that deep ball, and they almost had one the
Speaker 1: other They're gonna get one in this game. I mean
Speaker 1: he's averaging twelve point one to catch. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna just again keep an eye on Robert Alford,
Speaker 1: number twenty three. That's the guy. He's the He's the
Speaker 1: fish out there that you take advantage of. That'd be
Speaker 1: interesting to see if they want to zone it because
Speaker 1: they're worried about Cooper and then allow the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: have their way running the ball. You know what, Off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, when you were talking about
Speaker 1: the injuries on the defensive line and the ability to
Speaker 1: get pressure up the middle, what if they give him
Speaker 1: a heavy dose of that three man front and then
Speaker 1: play four linebackers because they're going to be in three
Speaker 1: wide receivers all the time, aren't they? They are going
Speaker 1: to be in three wider and then you don't know
Speaker 1: who's which linebackers rushing or blitzing and uh, and they
Speaker 1: haven't run the ball all that well. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: would be interesting to think about. I haven't seen that
Speaker 1: three man front as much this year. They did it
Speaker 1: a couple of times Philly, but they did it a
Speaker 1: decent amount the last year or two. So that's a thought, Mick.
Speaker 1: Maybe Chris Richard's not a fan of it. Maybe not
Speaker 1: m There you go, but they did they did. They
Speaker 1: did implement it against the Eagles, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if they did it because they wanted to change up
Speaker 1: or they were getting diminishing returns on available bodies. That's
Speaker 1: probably had a lot to do with it. Right there,
Speaker 1: are gonna say this is a deeper d line than
Speaker 1: they've had the last couple of years too, where you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to go to that look until now
Speaker 1: until injuries. Yeah, tell you what, And I'm mentioned it
Speaker 1: last night. We were on the Legend Show Mickey and
Speaker 1: I and uh, Wow, Randy Gregory coming off that Arthur
Speaker 1: scotpic surgery on his knee looks so quick off the
Speaker 1: ball in that Philadelphia game, and which makes you wonder
Speaker 1: if he had been dealing with an issue with that
Speaker 1: knee the last few weeks. Not that he was slower
Speaker 1: or anything, but when you got those book ends coming
Speaker 1: off the edge, that really is nice to see. I
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think he had been dealing with it,
Speaker 1: and that's why they went ahead and got the scope.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Connor Williams. Instead of trying to battle
Speaker 1: through it for the rest of the season, take care
Speaker 1: of it, miss a couple of weeks and maybe it
Speaker 1: benefits you and you're more effect That's you know, as
Speaker 1: we all know, that's Randy Gregory's game. No doubt he
Speaker 1: can come off the edge like that. Wow, that impacts
Speaker 1: the game all of a sudden light. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: let's you know, you got to hope that you you know,
Speaker 1: you talked about the sack numbers are not huge for
Speaker 1: the Falcons allowing sacks, you know, but they talk about
Speaker 1: hits and they talk about pressure. You know, let's see
Speaker 1: if Matt Ryan can And I'm this this game worries
Speaker 1: me just from the aspect of all these receivers and
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. You know, it's just that that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't trust Atlanta's defense. I really don't. Sixty two fifty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't trust them at all. But I I am
Speaker 1: worried about Atlanta's offense. Offensively, they're back to being close
Speaker 1: kind of what they were two years ago when they
Speaker 1: almost they should have won the Super Bowl and they
Speaker 1: were putting up about forty points a game in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They're not there right now. But when they played Cowboys
Speaker 1: played up there last year, that was a stagnant offense.
Speaker 1: They weren't they weren't hitting, they were struggling. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they found they found something. And again, like you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, you add Calvin Ridley to what they already have.
Speaker 1: That's a dangerous group, There's no question about it. But
Speaker 1: these dbs here have played, they played well. I know
Speaker 1: Philly hit some plays and I know zach Ertz was
Speaker 1: a tough cover. But they did some nice things against Philly,
Speaker 1: and you hope they can carry that over. So you're
Speaker 1: worried about them having scored thirty one, thirty seven, thirty six,
Speaker 1: thirty four, thirty eight. Yeah, absolutely, sixty two fifty six.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they're you know, but what did they score?
Speaker 1: Gets Cleveland sixteen sixteen and their losses they scored sixteen
Speaker 1: Philadelphia was an opening day loss right seventeen against Pittsburgh twelve.
Speaker 1: But that was only eighteen twelve game. Where's their other loss?
Speaker 1: Pits beat by the Saints forty three thirty seven seven
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati thirty seven thirty six. Pittsburgh did a nice
Speaker 1: job of getting after them. Pittsburgh did it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh can put some pressure on you, and they did
Speaker 1: a nice job. Did a good job of covering those
Speaker 1: receivers too. But you look at you look at Julio
Speaker 1: Jones numbers, and I know you're not supposed to just
Speaker 1: totally focus on numbers, but it just seems like it's
Speaker 1: his targets are double digit every game. He's over one
Speaker 1: hundred every game. Is he's you know, it's it's fourteen
Speaker 1: it's ten receptions, fourteen targets. And he's right about the
Speaker 1: target thing, because they could throw the ball over his
Speaker 1: damn head and they give him a target. But it
Speaker 1: just seems like, man, they're just saying, Okay, we know
Speaker 1: who our best offensive player is. We're just gonna keep
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. And that's that's the danger you run
Speaker 1: into playing these guys. Yeah, I think where Julio Jones
Speaker 1: hurts you the most. I wrote about this morning, you know,
Speaker 1: with my matchups with Byron Jones. I think Julio Jones
Speaker 1: hurt you run after catch. That's where I you know,
Speaker 1: I think that. And Mickey gave you the numbers last
Speaker 1: yesterday about Hulo Jones. He said, hey, would you take
Speaker 1: six for fifty nine? I believe is the number you use, Mickey,
Speaker 1: and that fifty seven from last year. Yeah, absolutely right now, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: sign me up for that. Now, find a way to
Speaker 1: cover everybody else, you know, cover Austin Hooper, cover all
Speaker 1: these other guys. You know, you know this game is
Speaker 1: gonna come down to can you make one extra stop?
Speaker 1: A half football? Yeah, A little bit like the saber
Speaker 1: Cats and the and the Rattlers used to be when
Speaker 1: her serve you better score. But Tennis, look at the
Speaker 1: second half of the Eagles game. That's what it turned
Speaker 1: out to be. Yeah, you know the Cowboys Eagles game
Speaker 1: last week. Cowboys gotta stop finally on the last possession.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come down too, because you take a stop.
Speaker 1: A stop in this game might be like a turnover. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But with the way the bow teams are, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think Dallas is better now offensively,
Speaker 1: I really do think they're better with with the Maury
Speaker 1: Cooper in the lineup. I think he and and you
Speaker 1: know again, Mickey's asked him to pair and you Rob
Speaker 1: have asked him to pair things down. I think they're
Speaker 1: finding out that, Okay, we could pare this thing down
Speaker 1: and just focus on these four guys and then try
Speaker 1: and run the football. You know, we gotta you get
Speaker 1: a new left guard that seems like he's got everybody's
Speaker 1: got some confidence in him. Ye. So you know, Dallas
Speaker 1: is capable of putting some points up if if they
Speaker 1: could get enough opportunities to do And by the way,
Speaker 1: that is sort of the offensive evolution of this league,
Speaker 1: the triple up, the trickle up effect from college to
Speaker 1: the NFL where you're seeing more coaches go for it
Speaker 1: on fourth down like Garrett did last week, because it
Speaker 1: become more like arena ball and possessions are so important
Speaker 1: and giving up the football. That's why I made that comparison,
Speaker 1: because covering arena football, if you get a stop that
Speaker 1: is a turnover, it counts as one. So that's to
Speaker 1: your point, that's what they're trying to do. They trying
Speaker 1: to get one extra stop or two. We'll see. So
Speaker 1: it's funny that we're talking about Cowboys in the sense
Speaker 1: of can they win a track meet style game, because
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a little bit better equipment, there's no question.
Speaker 1: I mean, now they trust me. They want to sit
Speaker 1: there and pound this ball and at Lant and say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's see if you're good enough stopping the run get ahead. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Let's see if you're good enough to you know, if
Speaker 1: we run this thing at you. Let's see if what
Speaker 1: kind of conditioned Dion Jones is in, you know, let's
Speaker 1: see what kind of conditioned creating jared'son. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: let's kind of see what kind of condition that could
Speaker 1: see the safety's in, you know, but you need to
Speaker 1: make sure that you have a team that built to
Speaker 1: to Okay, that's the way you want to win games.
Speaker 1: But you gotta have your team built where you can
Speaker 1: win a track mate too. Yeah, and they're they're they're
Speaker 1: a little bit more capable now of being able to
Speaker 1: play in a game like that we saw in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I mean, Philadelphia turned that second half into you score,
Speaker 1: I better score, you score, I better score again. You
Speaker 1: know it said fortunately did Dallas missed the early opportunities
Speaker 1: in that game and then they missed the field goal.
Speaker 1: I always I think they put it posted the deal
Speaker 1: the other day, Dallas is like at a record like
Speaker 1: thirty five and oh in game it since like two
Speaker 1: thousand and I don't know, two thy fourteen or so
Speaker 1: at fifteen maybe or where if they have a seven
Speaker 1: point lead going into the fourth quarter that they haven't
Speaker 1: lost that is the running game. Yeah, this is NBC
Speaker 1: posted that, so I might don't don't don't hit me out,
Speaker 1: but it was some number that they put where Dallas
Speaker 1: had not lost a game going into the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with a seven point lead. So I know, I again
Speaker 1: I say that, I look at that, I'm like, where
Speaker 1: did that come? But I bet the records good because
Speaker 1: there it's a certain time, it's like three years, because
Speaker 1: that's that's where they get to their bread and butter.
Speaker 1: That's where they start choking the time away with Zeke,
Speaker 1: and that's that's what they want to do. They get
Speaker 1: a double digit lead, I feel good about this team. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what Cleveland did against him last week, and that's
Speaker 1: what Pittsburgh did against him. Pittsburgh wound up beating him
Speaker 1: forty one seventeen. If you go back and look at
Speaker 1: the box score through three quarters, Cleveland last week led
Speaker 1: him twenty eight to ten. There you go, and Nick
Speaker 1: Chub runs for one hundred and seventy six yards. I'll
Speaker 1: have to go back. One of it was for ninety
Speaker 1: five yards. I'm not taken. Yeah, yeah, but but it
Speaker 1: was a run. It was a touchdown run. So they
Speaker 1: were able to get ahead, right, And you remember Mayfield
Speaker 1: was he was eighteen out of twenty one. He didn't
Speaker 1: throw the ball very much. I mean, only twenty one
Speaker 1: pass attempts in the game, right, And I think probably
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at their Pittsburgh game,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh got ahead, and I know that they were ahead
Speaker 1: by at least two scores in the third at the
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter, and now you're you're taking
Speaker 1: that track meat ass past. See, Dallas could have got
Speaker 1: up two scores on Philadel if they make the field goal.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's that's where Dallas. Mean, yeah, you feel
Speaker 1: more comfortable, even they were up thirteen to three and
Speaker 1: then Philadelphia, you know, came back. But still I always
Speaker 1: feel better about this team of a double digit lead
Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, three points. Sure, that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Sure, So Julio Jones one hundred and two targets.
Speaker 1: Who do you think second on the team, Ridley Hooper? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. So he's got twice as many as the
Speaker 1: next guy on. Yeah, the boots, the waggles, things like that.
Speaker 1: When they get this guy on the rio, the quarterback
Speaker 1: on the move, this is where and they move that
Speaker 1: Hooper around a lot. I mean, and obviously the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had problems last week. I'll say it again, zach Ernst
Speaker 1: is a different type of animal. But this guy right here, Hooper,
Speaker 1: I mean, he can make plays. That's the thing. He
Speaker 1: can make plays in the passing game. And they have
Speaker 1: to be ready for especially like Cleveland did. If you
Speaker 1: play your safeties deep and try to I'll let them
Speaker 1: do some underneath stuff. Give them that to try to
Speaker 1: prevent you know, like you said, deep plays from Julio
Speaker 1: got to be careful. There's that opens opportunities. Just can't
Speaker 1: give them those fifty one yard passes, yeah, forty eight, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't give them. You just can't allow them to
Speaker 1: change the field that way, you know that just they
Speaker 1: can't have that. They can't have those huge, just chunk
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Speaker 1: an offensive quardan or are you're happy with sixty seven
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Speaker 1: keep right somehow, some way. Yeah, I got no problem
Speaker 1: of maybe they when they throw it away, they just
Speaker 1: throw it over his head and get No, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of them that are that hit. Matt's just thrown away.
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Speaker 1: two ninety seven is the number to call. Man, What
Speaker 1: a great day it is out here today. If I
Speaker 1: was the head coach, I'm practicing outside and they're not
Speaker 1: practicing outside. They're inside. But I don't care if you
Speaker 1: are playing in Mercedes Ben's stadium, dome, whatever it's called.
Speaker 1: I'm taking it outside today. Oh they should have flipped it.
Speaker 1: Then practice outside today. Let us be inside yesterday so
Speaker 1: God and everybody can watch your practice. Yeah. Yeah. Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett said that he did think about practicing inside yesterday
Speaker 1: on the drive in. It was twenty eight degrees in
Speaker 1: the morning, and then he decided, you know what, though,
Speaker 1: it's gonna warm up, and he's you know, most coaches
Speaker 1: are like this. They're creatures of habit. Wednesday's the outside day.
Speaker 1: And he said that Dak told Dak said, and outside.
Speaker 1: Aren't we playing in a dome this week? I kind
Speaker 1: of brought that went up yesterday. I'm glad that Dak
Speaker 1: and I are on the same page as far as
Speaker 1: that goes. You know, Jason, it's a beautiful day. Don't
Speaker 1: let it get away. That's that's his phrase. I can
Speaker 1: ask a question. Yes, this is This was getting me
Speaker 1: on the drive home because Mickey was going through the
Speaker 1: list of injured guys. Is there somebody on this team
Speaker 1: that's playing really, really well that we're not talking about.
Speaker 1: We got scolded on Twitter for one in particular. Do
Speaker 1: you have one in mind? No? I do have one
Speaker 1: of mine, but I wanted I was driving in, I
Speaker 1: was thinking, you know, because I'm always interested. Is there
Speaker 1: a guy that we're not really talking about but he's playing,
Speaker 1: You're thinking like we should be talking more about him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know last week that that Vanderesh got
Speaker 1: all the credit, but like you know, with with Smith,
Speaker 1: I thought Smith played just as well. But is there
Speaker 1: somebody on this team that we're not talking about this?
Speaker 1: I know it's a four and five team, because there's
Speaker 1: somebody that we're kind of not talking about this playing
Speaker 1: pretty well? What did Twitter have? Were they accurate? You
Speaker 1: tell me? They scold a guy scolded us for not
Speaker 1: mentioned Damien Wilson as as because we've talked about these
Speaker 1: young linebackers and he's done a nice job as well,
Speaker 1: not as many snaps. I wrote about Tyrone Crawford this week,
Speaker 1: and I know we've talked about the D line rotation.
Speaker 1: Just think about how much how often he's moving. He
Speaker 1: wrote about this, right, yeah, okay on Tuesday, how he
Speaker 1: he slimmed down to play end, right, then they decided
Speaker 1: helped him to play tackle maybe right, And then they decided, okay,
Speaker 1: got Gregory back. We like our numbers at end, we'll
Speaker 1: move you back to the undertackle spot. He's done a
Speaker 1: nice job there. Now he's then he's shifted back out
Speaker 1: to end a week ago against Tennessee because of injuries,
Speaker 1: and now he's back inside and he's flipping around all
Speaker 1: over the place. And I think that's it speaks to
Speaker 1: his versatility and just kind of being a captain, doing
Speaker 1: whatever's needed. And he had a sack in the game,
Speaker 1: I think Russian from that undertackle spot. So he can
Speaker 1: kind of do whatever you ask. And I know people
Speaker 1: talked about his contract in the past, but this is
Speaker 1: the guy who plays hurt, can play wherever they need
Speaker 1: him to. Yeah, you got a guy, Bill or Mickey, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you go first. I mean, you have a guy that
Speaker 1: you're kind of that. You know, we're really not talking
Speaker 1: about this guy very much. We talk enough about Byron Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so we do. I mean, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get here. Every TV broadcast they're talking about him
Speaker 1: being the best corner in the league, you know, because
Speaker 1: of Pro Football Focus. Do you like it? Now, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this descriptions. I got I got one
Speaker 1: for you. Go ahead, Um, Jeff Heath, Okay, I think
Speaker 1: that he is. He has played awfully well, and you
Speaker 1: know they trusted him in man a lot of man
Speaker 1: coverage against Ernst and which is not an East Simon
Speaker 1: easy now and and I thought he did most of
Speaker 1: their damage against him when they went in zone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh if you just think of kind of him being
Speaker 1: in charge of that secondary back there, I just think
Speaker 1: he's done it. Yeah, he's I think he's done a
Speaker 1: really good job. And then you know, he's the guy
Speaker 1: that everybody wants a pick on. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's pretty darn good. Yeah, what you have
Speaker 1: in mind, I you know, what I was thinking about it,
Speaker 1: and you had him on the entry port was Woods,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean and not not you know, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the human lock Woods. Yeah. Yeah, but which
Speaker 1: is another candidate, by the way, because I thought he
Speaker 1: had a really good game again you know Antoine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Xavier Xavier Woods with Yeah, it was I just I
Speaker 1: kind of looking at him and I'm thinking about where
Speaker 1: he came from, you know, I mean I was driving along,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, who are these guys, you know, Suephilo.
Speaker 1: They get him from, you know, off the off the street.
Speaker 1: They they'll get you know, they get Woods off the street,
Speaker 1: you know, and these guys come into they play like
Speaker 1: big roles from Tennessee. Yeah, you know, Suephilo was let
Speaker 1: go by Tennessee and sts Woods. Yeah, so it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that, you know, you could go
Speaker 1: get a guy off the street and they've played well.
Speaker 1: You know, that's well. I could say Sue Philo is
Speaker 1: amazing because he gets absolutely no reps. I mean, he
Speaker 1: got no reps until last week, and then all of
Speaker 1: sudden he goes into plays in a major game like
Speaker 1: that and does well. But but you know, Antoine Woods.
Speaker 1: To me, when I watch him play, I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: how do you play without Antoine Woods? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: singer thinking, okay, if he's hurt concussion protocol, how do
Speaker 1: you play without him? That's why. Yeah, that's that's why
Speaker 1: I'm kind of going. I'm thinking, okay, ready, and I
Speaker 1: like read and I like read and yeah, but only
Speaker 1: from the word go, I mean training camp. Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: like it's like, okay, when he came in as a
Speaker 1: fourth stringer, and then when started making noise and training
Speaker 1: camp and then you're like, looking back, now, where would
Speaker 1: this team have been in the interior, in the defensive
Speaker 1: line if Antoine Woods yeah, hadn't come along. The numbers
Speaker 1: are not god yeah, but for second ina, I mean
Speaker 1: tied for a second, tied for eleventh in tackles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with twenty two and he's only a couple behind Tyrone Crawford,
Speaker 1: who we just we'll think about it. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: about basically halfway point of the season. He's unpaced for
Speaker 1: forty four tackles, see, which is a which is a
Speaker 1: good number for our kind of when we started seeing
Speaker 1: we kind of started seeing the failing health of Frederick
Speaker 1: in camp. And then that's when they got in that
Speaker 1: fight with Woods, and then all of a sudden, something
Speaker 1: flipped for Woods, something flipped. He went from being just
Speaker 1: a okay, you know, here we are, we're doing training
Speaker 1: camp live and talking about you know, oh there he's
Speaker 1: going to get Woods now, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: after that it was like whoa. Well that it was
Speaker 1: cool to see in camp because Garrett talks about meritocracy.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy that they couldn't ignore him.
Speaker 1: You know. By the second week of camp, Marinelli said, nah,
Speaker 1: you're with the first team. Yeah, you're playing, you're plugged
Speaker 1: him in, you're playing too well. Yeah, and he kept
Speaker 1: kept a spot, especially with Irving, you know, missing those
Speaker 1: first four games with suspension. That was it was after
Speaker 1: the exchange with Jerry that day when I was standing there,
Speaker 1: that's right, and Jerry up j Jerry would walked by
Speaker 1: him and he goes, I see you keep you know,
Speaker 1: you better keep it up, keep going, And he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know any difference, you know. And and I
Speaker 1: looked at him and I said, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: Why is he so cocky? After he got in that
Speaker 1: fight with Frederick? This one was before the fight came
Speaker 1: after that. Can I mention another guy or you got
Speaker 1: your guy? Bill Well? I was. I was kind of
Speaker 1: on heath at the same time Mickey mentioned it. And
Speaker 1: you know a guy that's quietly goes about his business
Speaker 1: on offense, is Cole Beasley? Sure? Sure, he gets open
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. No, I was about another receiver
Speaker 1: his his Alan Hern's grown on you a little bit, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean has he grown on you? I mean is
Speaker 1: it still one of those things? I mean he had
Speaker 1: he had a he's had some games where he hasn't
Speaker 1: been a factor or nearly enough. Last two games he's
Speaker 1: come up. But yeah, but he's come up. Here's an
Speaker 1: interesting point. After you left last night, and I was
Speaker 1: talking with Joe Green about the team. Oh yeah, it
Speaker 1: was great, and he was talking about that. He was
Speaker 1: talking about Marie Cooper and he goes, but you know
Speaker 1: what else he does. He goes, do you see him
Speaker 1: get separation at the top of the route And he
Speaker 1: goes And you can have coaches teach that talk about it,
Speaker 1: but when the other players see him do that, they
Speaker 1: learn better. And he goes and I see these other
Speaker 1: guys and he goes, I see these other guys now
Speaker 1: running better routes. And he you know, I forgot. He
Speaker 1: coached for eighteen years in this league. And he scouting too.
Speaker 1: He was a damn good scoutout coaching eighteen years. You
Speaker 1: know what Michael Gallup said yesterday along those lines, He said,
Speaker 1: I forget what type of route it was, but he
Speaker 1: said he watches Cooper run a certain type of route
Speaker 1: and he's like, Wow, why can't I do it that way?
Speaker 1: You know, and almost like runner. No, And he's got
Speaker 1: he's got the speed and the gonna learn from it
Speaker 1: and he's gonna become a better outline. So going to
Speaker 1: hearns maybe he's kind of you know, I kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's only been here three weeks. But the
Speaker 1: thing about with Hearns is I think that he's now
Speaker 1: starting to be a better player, you know, and and
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe we need maybe we're gonna get in
Speaker 1: these games and come fast and furious here the next
Speaker 1: three maybe we'll see more like, you know, three targets,
Speaker 1: two big plays. That's what we're kind of starting to
Speaker 1: see from Herns a little bit. You know, the the
Speaker 1: double move of Tennessee game, the big play on you know,
Speaker 1: he made the slant. I think the slant he made
Speaker 1: against third on third and eight too. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's an easy ball. You're runn to slant, you're oway
Speaker 1: you can drop it and you're like, oh god, but no,
Speaker 1: he you know, he's making some play play down at
Speaker 1: the goal on set up the first touchdown. I was
Speaker 1: hopefully he could have like got that ball in. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny you mentioned Alan Hearns, and I
Speaker 1: should have probably said Alan Hearns, because yesterday my unsung
Speaker 1: star of the week, well on the Jason Garrett Show
Speaker 1: with the Coach was Alan Hearns. For those two plays.
Speaker 1: He may say about it and and basically and I
Speaker 1: set him up saying, Okay, here is a reliable, veteran
Speaker 1: guy who, um, you know, made the big plays. And
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he's the type guy that the
Speaker 1: quarterback can depend on. He's going to be in the
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. Doesn't do it fast right,
Speaker 1: doesn't do it quick, but can be reliable exactly. And
Speaker 1: his approach too, it could have been easy for him
Speaker 1: maybe to be frustrated coming in now on my snaps
Speaker 1: are down, I probably felt like I should have had
Speaker 1: more opportunities to begin with. And he's maximized what he's
Speaker 1: getting because his his snaps are down these last couple games,
Speaker 1: but he's his productions up and that's impressive. But he
Speaker 1: understands where he is in this league. He understood coming
Speaker 1: into the league as an undrafted guy out of the
Speaker 1: U and had to earn his way in his second
Speaker 1: year in the league. Was a thousand yard receiver in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: But then he was basically that third receiver role in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with the talent that they had Alan Robinson and
Speaker 1: Marquis League in their receiving corps too. That's what he is.
Speaker 1: He understands what he is in this league, and it's
Speaker 1: a very it's a valuable part of a receiving corps
Speaker 1: and a guy that a quarterback can depend on. Absolutely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have time to get into this right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can do it right now, Brian. You gotta check
Speaker 1: out Brian on Dallas Cowboys dot Com breaking down Layton
Speaker 1: vander Esh and what you did. I was able to
Speaker 1: eavesdrop on yesterday in the film room as he's breaking
Speaker 1: down Layton vander Esh and the play that he made
Speaker 1: the five yard loss Corey Clement on the third down play,
Speaker 1: and it jogged Brian's memory to a play that Sean
Speaker 1: Lee made against the Eagles two years ago at at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium in a similar situation. And he goes
Speaker 1: back and he breaks down the two plays and they're
Speaker 1: almost identical. Yeah, thank you, and I appreciate you mentioned that.
Speaker 1: I just it was one of those things where it's
Speaker 1: a key point in the game and you've got one
Speaker 1: team trying to drive. I mean they're trying to drive.
Speaker 1: They're trying to you know, move the ball and in
Speaker 1: and just I wanted to show the instincts you see
Speaker 1: instincts with Sean Lee and now you see instincts with
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh. So that was really my comparison there to
Speaker 1: try and say, hey, it's vision, it's athletic ability, it's finished,
Speaker 1: all these things that you see with the with these wells,
Speaker 1: and especially the end zone view, because from the end
Speaker 1: zone view, you know you're seeing tackle to tackle. Okay, Clement,
Speaker 1: and Brian points out Clement. He lines up to the
Speaker 1: right of the quarterback and his split was wider, little
Speaker 1: wider than what he normally does because they usually bunch
Speaker 1: of the running back closer to that. And he shows
Speaker 1: vanders Assuming I don't know if you talked a lot
Speaker 1: about it, Okay he Layton notices that Clement is split
Speaker 1: out a little bit wider, so he anticipates that it
Speaker 1: could be a screen out into the flat right now,
Speaker 1: the play with it was Darren Sproles two years ago,
Speaker 1: and he lined up to the left side, brought him
Speaker 1: and brought him back and him back. Okay, yeah, But
Speaker 1: on the end zone view, what's amazing about it is
Speaker 1: you can see okay, it follows the play and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you see the linebacker is whether
Speaker 1: it was vander Esh or Lee two years ago, is
Speaker 1: already out on the perimeter ahead of the offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: You can see how quickly you can see that they anticipated,
Speaker 1: they read the play, they diagnosed it, and they were
Speaker 1: there to make the play for a loss. It was
Speaker 1: it really uh well, thank you, thank you for watching
Speaker 1: that well. He said after the game. He was leaning
Speaker 1: on a run and then he goes a screen pass,
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm going with the screen pass. And
Speaker 1: so it was just his instincts of either how they
Speaker 1: lined up and the situation and what a feel for
Speaker 1: the game. And that's why you know, when everybody talks
Speaker 1: about his production, it's his instincts. Can't teach those, no question,
Speaker 1: and they're amazing. He's got ninety six tackles right now overall,
Speaker 1: leads the team right The record for a rookie in
Speaker 1: a single season is one hundred and thirty six by
Speaker 1: Dexter Cokeley. He could tackle well too. Is he on
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl ballot because he needs to be. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him the ballot. Yeah, it just came. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's not. He will be soon. Gret Goslin yesterday
Speaker 1: on Cowboys Insider, he said that he expects Banderesh to
Speaker 1: get Pro Bowl votes. If if he's not on the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl then ballot, then he needs to be one
Speaker 1: of the all time great write in count count. Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 1: Brian thought he was being called upon being asked, Brian
Speaker 1: in Maryland, Hey, how you doing, guys? Good, y'all are
Speaker 1: just talking about unsung heroes. There's one player on the
Speaker 1: field that I saw last Sunday that finally got into
Speaker 1: the game. He made Dak more comfortable, he made Zeke
Speaker 1: more proficient, and he even helped Jesse's convert that fourth
Speaker 1: down hunt fake. I think that's Jamizzola. Wally there you go.
Speaker 1: I think because the offseason Keith Smith with us losing him,
Speaker 1: we didn't realize how much of an impact that had
Speaker 1: on our offense and we stopped running twenty one personnel.
Speaker 1: But what I saw is the Scotland hand or I
Speaker 1: guess Dak and Zeke getting comfortable enough with him in
Speaker 1: the back field that he was he was part of
Speaker 1: the big plays. He just wasn't the main part. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think with him on the field, it just showed
Speaker 1: a different dynamic to our offense. The offensive line they
Speaker 1: were blocking and then he's getting on the second level
Speaker 1: and then you have Zeke dealing with the safety and
Speaker 1: we'll take that every day. There you go. Absolutely, So
Speaker 1: I think as far as people who never get recognition,
Speaker 1: I think, oh Wally has come in and really carved
Speaker 1: out a place for himself. And if he continues to,
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about him being one of
Speaker 1: the big key factors in our red zone and our
Speaker 1: third and shorts conversions. Yeah, there you go. Good observation
Speaker 1: right there, Brian. And that was I mean, that was
Speaker 1: kind of his best game maybe huh by far, by far,
Speaker 1: I mean I noticed him before. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean I was ready for him to play with
Speaker 1: some violence, you know, And maybe I was thinking too
Speaker 1: much of Keith Smith. I loved Keith Smith. I was
Speaker 1: sad to see Keith Smith go because I thought that
Speaker 1: he you know, not that old lo Wally doesn't bring
Speaker 1: it every week. But Keith Smith was one of those
Speaker 1: guys that, you know, he was a glass eater when
Speaker 1: it came to trying to dig those linebackers that when
Speaker 1: he got the opportunity and catch the ball for you well,
Speaker 1: I mean they liked ola Wally because of special teams.
Speaker 1: He could be a one back runner. He catches the
Speaker 1: ball really well. But she saw a good example, like
Speaker 1: Brian was pointing out, though you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: the runs, you got a block from Rico, you got
Speaker 1: a block from Ola Wally. The ball spills to the backside.
Speaker 1: It's a big gain on out the back door there
Speaker 1: and then you and then he had really the key block.
Speaker 1: He and march Lillard. I broke that play down too
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You could check that out,
Speaker 1: and so you'll see. I mean, yeah, it was Mickey's right. This.
Speaker 1: We were waiting for this to happen. It actually happened
Speaker 1: hopefully in these games and the coming games that we
Speaker 1: could see more from Ola Wally at the point of
Speaker 1: attack and being more physical. Harp, his name's Harp. He
Speaker 1: checked in with us a few minutes ago and said
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods made a couple really nice plays in the game.
Speaker 1: One key play particularly said, you guys haven't talked him
Speaker 1: up much, but that's I mentioned well, I mentioned his
Speaker 1: name as as a possibility disability for that. But we
Speaker 1: you know, and more with Xavier boy, are we maybe me?
Speaker 1: You know, I just I kind of wait for Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods when I want. When I'm down on him, he
Speaker 1: plays well when I want to praise him. He kind
Speaker 1: of has a game where you're like, you know, you're like,
Speaker 1: but I you know, I wish there was more consistency
Speaker 1: to his game. I wish there were more of those
Speaker 1: players that you were talking about now, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: as your safety, you want that, you want a guy
Speaker 1: that this, you know, Mickey brought up Jeff Heath, and
Speaker 1: I think I think both both safeties have had games
Speaker 1: where they've been outstanding and then other times you're kind
Speaker 1: of like, got to be better than that. And but
Speaker 1: that's that's why I don't think we talk about Woods
Speaker 1: very much because there hasn't been that consistency with him play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he you know, the Twitter question or comment was
Speaker 1: was correct. I mean he was. He was a good
Speaker 1: player the other night. See. And and here's the the
Speaker 1: other thing about this team, and Stephen Jones used the
Speaker 1: term about three or four times in his interview on
Speaker 1: the Fan on on Monday, young team. Yeah, we're talking
Speaker 1: about a guy playing for the first time in at
Speaker 1: starting at first time at through safety in this league.
Speaker 1: And they have got a lot of guys doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: It is a young team, I think, and I know
Speaker 1: the expectations for the Cowboys are always hey, you better
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs? Are you firing the coach? But
Speaker 1: this is a young team. It's a young team. But
Speaker 1: now they're veentered to the second half of this season
Speaker 1: and they're not young anymore. So they're they're freshman's now.
Speaker 1: Software well, and you basically, in an NFL season, especially
Speaker 1: if you make the playoffs, you're playing two college seasons
Speaker 1: if you include preseason games, no question. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: happen to Connor Williams. What was going on with him, right,
Speaker 1: you know that whole thing. But and let's hope it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to Vanderesh, you know, let's hope that vandersh
Speaker 1: can fight through anything. It obviously, I think with to me,
Speaker 1: I think my opinion on Woods deals more with I
Speaker 1: saw him at Louisiana Tech and he was drafting the
Speaker 1: sixth round, and I had a third round grade on
Speaker 1: him and my expectations for him. I was excited when
Speaker 1: they drafted him, I really really was. And I was
Speaker 1: just hopeful that he would get an opportunity too that
Speaker 1: he has today. And Mickey's right, he's a young player.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean I had I had a high
Speaker 1: grade on him from my evaluation of watching him play
Speaker 1: in college. So you know, when he got here and
Speaker 1: we saw him play someone the nickel, you know, we
Speaker 1: saw him a little bit struggle with some tackling stuff.
Speaker 1: But overall, I think he's been a good player. I
Speaker 1: just think that he could if he was just a
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent than I would feel better about
Speaker 1: my evaluation of the player. Well, maybe his second year
Speaker 1: you'll find that, I hope. So, well, you look at
Speaker 1: this game, then you got Washington and then you got
Speaker 1: the Saints. Okay, so you got three games in the
Speaker 1: span of whatever that however many days that is, and
Speaker 1: two of those games you've got this secondary is gonna
Speaker 1: be tested like it hasn't been all season against the
Speaker 1: Falcons and the Saints, right, and um so we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out even more about this secondary here
Speaker 1: in the next two weeks. Yeah, then you know that
Speaker 1: just your hope is if you can go get this
Speaker 1: game in Atlanta and then you get a little help
Speaker 1: from Houston. Houston's playing well, you know, let's let's be honest.
Speaker 1: I mean, ever since they lost the first two games
Speaker 1: and now I think they won six straight. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: at a bye week, you gotta hope. Yeah, coming off
Speaker 1: a bye and Washington really has not scored a whole
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of points, and their injury depleted
Speaker 1: now and their offensive line hopefully you get yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you can. You can get those guys to you know,
Speaker 1: that pass rush in Houston can kind of get going,
Speaker 1: you know again, and so you know that that's that,
Speaker 1: you know, things can kind of take care of themselves.
Speaker 1: You just got to give yourself an opportunity. You got
Speaker 1: to go out there and play one of your best
Speaker 1: games against Atlanta. That's just that's just the bottom line
Speaker 1: on that one. Did Houston turned their season around with
Speaker 1: that overtime win against the Cowboys. They won like four
Speaker 1: or five in a row. Actually the win they had
Speaker 1: I think the seat they were in trouble. They won
Speaker 1: a game in Indianapolis before they that before that there,
Speaker 1: if they lose that game, remember Frank Reich. Frank Reich
Speaker 1: went for it on fourth down and is owned into
Speaker 1: the field and got stopped, and they went and won
Speaker 1: the game in overtime, and I think that saved their season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had two straight, it's because they were owing three
Speaker 1: to start the year and then the two straight overtime
Speaker 1: wins over the Colts and the Cowboys. Then they got
Speaker 1: the Bills, then they got a Jacksonville team that was down,
Speaker 1: then Miami and then Denver. One of the reasons they're six,
Speaker 1: they schedules, schedules played well. The friend league schedule for them, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But as a team, you start gaining confidence and sometimes
Speaker 1: you need that and they don't ask how, they don't
Speaker 1: say how much? Right, Yeah, what's Indianapolis's record? They're I
Speaker 1: think they're they're four and four and two five as well.
Speaker 1: I think they've gonna you know, they have last yeah,
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, I believe the Colts have not
Speaker 1: given up a sack. Three straight wins yeah for Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: So I mean, even when you look at the Cowboys
Speaker 1: schedule in December or where at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: you think, oh, okay, there's a w Yeah. Well the
Speaker 1: last three you're thinking they're probably looking at you saying, oh,
Speaker 1: well there's a w you know, yeah, right, yeah, And
Speaker 1: and that Colts game looks a little different. Now, sure
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay doesn't. No no giants either, no giants one
Speaker 1: buts on you. But you can't look at you don't
Speaker 1: look at any game on the schedule and say, oh,
Speaker 1: we got this. You can't do it. It's impossible. Which
Speaker 1: one Tampa, Yeah, Tampa Giants. I think so. Now those
Speaker 1: Giants are struggling. There's one question. The question you're gonna
Speaker 1: have though when you get to that point, though, are
Speaker 1: you gonna be playing meaningful games? Right? That's why you
Speaker 1: got to take care of business. That's why you gotta
Speaker 1: go win. You gotta be you know, and hey, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy playing the same It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be easy playing there. I think, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys now are better equipped to sue Filo
Speaker 1: stays at that at the guard spot. I think they're
Speaker 1: a little bit better equipped how they're going to handle
Speaker 1: that now once Maybe Connor is not ready this way
Speaker 1: he practiced yesterday. But let's say two weeks from now. Yeah, said,
Speaker 1: they decide to go, it's sue Filo for the next
Speaker 1: they beat the Falcons and have a good game offensively
Speaker 1: like they did in Philadelphia, You're gonna see Sue Filo
Speaker 1: start against Washington. I think they're looking at it. It
Speaker 1: was one game, Yeah, let me see it again again. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: because now teams will be prepared for him and give
Speaker 1: him another week. Connor too to you know, get healthy,
Speaker 1: because what Gregory missed a couple of weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: don't rush him back because that's the way you can
Speaker 1: couch it. Sure, you know from that standpoint, you know
Speaker 1: you don't have to rush it, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: a short week coming off this one. Anyway, next week
Speaker 1: and again they've got those two big inside players that
Speaker 1: gave you problems. Suefilo can make them, make them run
Speaker 1: through you there, big Philip. All I know is when
Speaker 1: they lined up and did their little drills yesterday when
Speaker 1: we were out there, the only starter out there I
Speaker 1: saw was Else Collins. That's the only one. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you feel okay about tiring and Zach, I do. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that was looked like a preseason game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good look. I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: little unsettling if it was almost like I got that number,
Speaker 1: who is that? Especially Atlanta week, especially since you're second
Speaker 1: in the league with the most sacks, tied with the Giants,
Speaker 1: and did you get that number? Thirty two? Thirty two?
Speaker 1: I thought that's what it was Cleveland. It's not a
Speaker 1: thing you want to lead the league. So maybe I
Speaker 1: guess your last thirty five sacks? Yeah yeah, all right,
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