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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headhours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. That's got here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. There's Mickey waving Nowallas fans out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is, It's time for up here Thursday edition of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Can hear you, mag You can't hear me? No,

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Speaker 1: we can't. I can't hear myself doing a bit right. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I can't hear myself. I love the way mannikin over there,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? I love sitting across from Rob Phillips

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Speaker 1: because whenever Bicky makes a comment and I can see

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Speaker 1: the facial expressions of Rob of the other side. We

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Speaker 1: need a split screen at sometime where when when Mickey

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty funny. Huh. We probably can't everything else.

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Speaker 1: Garrison can figure everything out, and so if it makes

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Speaker 1: for good TV or good podcasts, then Kent Garrison, who

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Speaker 1: is at hard at work right now fixing Mickey's problem.

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Speaker 1: It's the best part of the show today. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: You know the two you know, the two old Muppet

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Speaker 1: yeah them yeah grumpy, I forget their name. Kent knows them.

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Speaker 1: There it is, there you go, that's Mickey Sackla Man,

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Speaker 1: he's a cartoon character. We love the cameo appearance on

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Speaker 1: camera appearance of Kent Garrison. Here is Carroll back the

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Speaker 1: curtain and we try to get Mickey situated for this

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys. How are you doing, Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us. I'm doing well, Bill, Thank you very much. Right.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna have Mickey if he practiced yesterday on

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Speaker 1: the offensive defensive lines yesterday, I did. You don't need

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Speaker 1: the mic Oh, I don't need the mic You can

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Speaker 1: have two mics. No, it makes you feel powerful. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that one work? No? You need you need to

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Speaker 1: pull the other one up. You need you do a

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Speaker 1: coach o lsu. I didn't need the microphone. We were hopeful, Mickey.

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Speaker 1: That was a hope, but no good. I can turn

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Speaker 1: it around. There you go. Uh man, what a mess yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Huh did you guys? I mean you see that injury report.

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Speaker 1: Injury report, Yeah, nine guys sitting out. Did they have

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Speaker 1: did they have any offensive defensive lineman practice? Yes? They

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Speaker 1: didn't look like they had enough defensive linemen to get

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Speaker 1: through practice. Now they did sign a guy back to

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. I think those guys needed to be used. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh no, Yeah, there's no question the for the scout

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Speaker 1: team or no for the for the first team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had to dip into the practice squad. I think

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know that there was a kid named

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Speaker 1: Ringo on this team. I didn't either. I asked Christian

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Speaker 1: and Ringo. Christian Ringo was actually actually was starting for

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Speaker 1: you yesterday when I saw them starting the skeleton drills

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Speaker 1: and I saw sixty eight in there, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I thought Daniel Ross Daniel Rolsons changed his name. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then it was like, what he's hurt. It's like,

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Speaker 1: who's sixty eight? Rob goes Ringo? Christian Ringo is the

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Speaker 1: unsung star of practice yesterday, Ringo star. Oh yeah, boy,

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Speaker 1: you went a long way again there. Yeah, there's people

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Speaker 1: right now. They don't know exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Driving off the road. I liked it though, I liked it.

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Speaker 1: I like least someone did it. Don't come easy, right,

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Speaker 1: I recognized it. I recognized the reference. I hope he

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Speaker 1: has a good game, so we can use that on

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Speaker 1: the website. Yes, that's right, all that would be good. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Ringo Stars. So who all? Who all set out practice yesterday? There, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, Malik Collins, David Irving, Shawn Lee's, Zach Martin,

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Speaker 1: now of that group, there's what nine or so nine

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Speaker 1: of that group? Then? Which ones are significant for this week?

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Speaker 1: Because we already knew the Tavans and Sean Lee's of

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Speaker 1: That's my biggest fear in this game. I don't fear

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Speaker 1: If Dallas has been good on defense. As a red

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Speaker 1: we've also does We'll talk about this yesterday, Bill. They're

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Speaker 1: a good third down team, and they're a good third

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Speaker 1: and long team. I mean they convert about half of

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Speaker 1: their third and longs. They stay on the field. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: did a better job getting off the field last game.

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Speaker 1: But Brian's right, this could be first team to twenty

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Speaker 1: eight thirty. Maybe we'll get one of those high school

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Speaker 1: what are the odds in high school? I see every score.

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Speaker 1: I look at Atlanta. Atlanta though they've had their struggles.

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Speaker 1: Now they get on Jones back, but you know what

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Speaker 1: if you go back and look at their Pittsburgh game,

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Speaker 1: end of the third quarter, and now you're you're taking

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Speaker 1: that track meat ass past. See, Dallas could have got

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Speaker 1: up two scores on Philadel if they make the field goal.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's that's where Dallas. Mean, yeah, you feel

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Speaker 1: more comfortable, even they were up thirteen to three and

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Speaker 1: then Philadelphia, you know, came back. But still I always

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Speaker 1: feel better about this team of a double digit lead

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Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, three points. Sure, that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. Sure, So Julio Jones one hundred and two targets.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think second on the team, Ridley Hooper? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. So he's got twice as many as the

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Speaker 1: next guy on. Yeah, the boots, the waggles, things like that.

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Speaker 1: When they get this guy on the rio, the quarterback

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Speaker 1: Hooper around a lot. I mean, and obviously the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: had problems last week. I'll say it again, zach Ernst

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Speaker 1: I mean, he can make plays. That's the thing. He

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Speaker 1: play your safeties deep and try to I'll let them

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Speaker 1: got to be careful. There's that opens opportunities. Just can't

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Speaker 1: give them those fifty one yard passes, yeah, forty eight, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: keep right somehow, some way. Yeah, I got no problem

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Speaker 1: ask a question. Yes, this is This was getting me

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Speaker 1: on the drive home because Mickey was going through the

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Speaker 1: list of injured guys. Is there somebody on this team

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Speaker 1: that's playing really, really well that we're not talking about.

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Speaker 1: We got scolded on Twitter for one in particular. Do

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Speaker 1: you have one in mind? No? I do have one

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Speaker 1: was thinking, you know, because I'm always interested. Is there

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Speaker 1: You're thinking like we should be talking more about him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know last week that that Vanderesh got

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Speaker 1: all the credit, but like you know, with with Smith,

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Speaker 1: I thought Smith played just as well. But is there

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Speaker 1: not as many snaps. I wrote about Tyrone Crawford this week,

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Speaker 1: Just think about how much how often he's moving. He

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Speaker 1: move you back to the undertackle spot. He's done a

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Speaker 1: nice job there. Now he's then he's shifted back out

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Speaker 1: to end a week ago against Tennessee because of injuries,

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Speaker 1: and now he's back inside and he's flipping around all

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Speaker 1: his versatility and just kind of being a captain, doing

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Speaker 1: I think Russian from that undertackle spot. So he can

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Speaker 1: him to. Yeah, you got a guy, Bill or Mickey, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: you go first. I mean, you have a guy that

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Speaker 1: I think so we do. I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 1: me ask you this descriptions. I got I got one

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Speaker 1: Uh if you just think of kind of him being

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, who are these guys, you know, Suephilo.

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Speaker 1: They get him from, you know, off the off the street.

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Speaker 1: They they'll get you know, they get Woods off the street,

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Speaker 1: get a guy off the street and they've played well.

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00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: You know, that's well. I could say Sue Philo is

635
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: amazing because he gets absolutely no reps. I mean, he

636
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: got no reps until last week, and then all of

637
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: sudden he goes into plays in a major game like

638
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: that and does well. But but you know, Antoine Woods.

639
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: To me, when I watch him play, I'm trying to think,

640
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: how do you play without Antoine Woods? You know, I'm

641
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: singer thinking, okay, if he's hurt concussion protocol, how do

642
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: you play without him? That's why. Yeah, that's that's why

643
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm kind of going. I'm thinking, okay, ready, and I

644
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: like read and I like read and yeah, but only

645
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: from the word go, I mean training camp. Yeah, It's

646
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: like it's like, okay, when he came in as a

647
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: fourth stringer, and then when started making noise and training

648
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: camp and then you're like, looking back, now, where would

649
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: this team have been in the interior, in the defensive

650
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: line if Antoine Woods yeah, hadn't come along. The numbers

651
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: are not god yeah, but for second ina, I mean

652
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: tied for a second, tied for eleventh in tackles, Yeah,

653
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: with twenty two and he's only a couple behind Tyrone Crawford,

654
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: who we just we'll think about it. I mean, we're

655
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: about basically halfway point of the season. He's unpaced for

656
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: forty four tackles, see, which is a which is a

657
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: good number for our kind of when we started seeing

658
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: we kind of started seeing the failing health of Frederick

659
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: in camp. And then that's when they got in that

660
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: fight with Woods, and then all of a sudden, something

661
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: flipped for Woods, something flipped. He went from being just

662
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: a okay, you know, here we are, we're doing training

663
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: camp live and talking about you know, oh there he's

664
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: going to get Woods now, and then all of a sudden,

665
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: after that it was like whoa. Well that it was

666
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: cool to see in camp because Garrett talks about meritocracy.

667
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy that they couldn't ignore him.

668
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: You know. By the second week of camp, Marinelli said, nah,

669
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: you're with the first team. Yeah, you're playing, you're plugged

670
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: him in, you're playing too well. Yeah, and he kept

671
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: kept a spot, especially with Irving, you know, missing those

672
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: first four games with suspension. That was it was after

673
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: the exchange with Jerry that day when I was standing there,

674
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: that's right, and Jerry up j Jerry would walked by

675
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: him and he goes, I see you keep you know,

676
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: you better keep it up, keep going, And he goes,

677
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: I don't know any difference, you know. And and I

678
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: looked at him and I said, who is this guy?

679
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: Why is he so cocky? After he got in that

680
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: fight with Frederick? This one was before the fight came

681
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: after that. Can I mention another guy or you got

682
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: your guy? Bill Well? I was. I was kind of

683
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: on heath at the same time Mickey mentioned it. And

684
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: you know a guy that's quietly goes about his business

685
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: on offense, is Cole Beasley? Sure? Sure, he gets open

686
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. No, I was about another receiver

687
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: his his Alan Hern's grown on you a little bit, Yeah, definitely.

688
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean has he grown on you? I mean is

689
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: it still one of those things? I mean he had

690
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: he had a he's had some games where he hasn't

691
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: been a factor or nearly enough. Last two games he's

692
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: come up. But yeah, but he's come up. Here's an

693
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: interesting point. After you left last night, and I was

694
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: talking with Joe Green about the team. Oh yeah, it

695
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: was great, and he was talking about that. He was

696
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: talking about Marie Cooper and he goes, but you know

697
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: what else he does. He goes, do you see him

698
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: get separation at the top of the route And he

699
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: goes And you can have coaches teach that talk about it,

700
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: but when the other players see him do that, they

701
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: learn better. And he goes and I see these other

702
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: guys and he goes, I see these other guys now

703
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: running better routes. And he you know, I forgot. He

704
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: coached for eighteen years in this league. And he scouting too.

705
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: He was a damn good scoutout coaching eighteen years. You

706
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: know what Michael Gallup said yesterday along those lines, He said,

707
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: I forget what type of route it was, but he

708
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: said he watches Cooper run a certain type of route

709
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: and he's like, Wow, why can't I do it that way?

710
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 1: You know, and almost like runner. No, And he's got

711
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: he's got the speed and the gonna learn from it

712
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: and he's gonna become a better outline. So going to

713
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: hearns maybe he's kind of you know, I kind of.

714
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's only been here three weeks. But the

715
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: thing about with Hearns is I think that he's now

716
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: starting to be a better player, you know, and and

717
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe we need maybe we're gonna get in

718
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: these games and come fast and furious here the next

719
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: three maybe we'll see more like, you know, three targets,

720
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: two big plays. That's what we're kind of starting to

721
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: see from Herns a little bit. You know, the the

722
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: double move of Tennessee game, the big play on you know,

723
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: he made the slant. I think the slant he made

724
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: against third on third and eight too. You know, yeah,

725
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: that's an easy ball. You're runn to slant, you're oway

726
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: you can drop it and you're like, oh god, but no,

727
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: he you know, he's making some play play down at

728
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: the goal on set up the first touchdown. I was

729
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: hopefully he could have like got that ball in. But

730
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny you mentioned Alan Hearns, and I

731
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: should have probably said Alan Hearns, because yesterday my unsung

732
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: star of the week, well on the Jason Garrett Show

733
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: with the Coach was Alan Hearns. For those two plays.

734
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: He may say about it and and basically and I

735
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: set him up saying, Okay, here is a reliable, veteran

736
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: guy who, um, you know, made the big plays. And

737
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he's the type guy that the

738
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: quarterback can depend on. He's going to be in the

739
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. Doesn't do it fast right,

740
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: doesn't do it quick, but can be reliable exactly. And

741
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: his approach too, it could have been easy for him

742
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: maybe to be frustrated coming in now on my snaps

743
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: are down, I probably felt like I should have had

744
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: more opportunities to begin with. And he's maximized what he's

745
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: getting because his his snaps are down these last couple games,

746
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: but he's his productions up and that's impressive. But he

747
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: understands where he is in this league. He understood coming

748
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: into the league as an undrafted guy out of the

749
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: U and had to earn his way in his second

750
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: year in the league. Was a thousand yard receiver in Jacksonville.

751
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: But then he was basically that third receiver role in

752
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with the talent that they had Alan Robinson and

753
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: Marquis League in their receiving corps too. That's what he is.

754
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: He understands what he is in this league, and it's

755
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: a very it's a valuable part of a receiving corps

756
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: and a guy that a quarterback can depend on. Absolutely. Yeah,

757
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: I have time to get into this right now. Yeah,

758
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: we can do it right now, Brian. You gotta check

759
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: out Brian on Dallas Cowboys dot Com breaking down Layton

760
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: vander Esh and what you did. I was able to

761
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: eavesdrop on yesterday in the film room as he's breaking

762
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: down Layton vander Esh and the play that he made

763
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: the five yard loss Corey Clement on the third down play,

764
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: and it jogged Brian's memory to a play that Sean

765
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: Lee made against the Eagles two years ago at at

766
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: and T Stadium in a similar situation. And he goes

767
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: back and he breaks down the two plays and they're

768
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: almost identical. Yeah, thank you, and I appreciate you mentioned that.

769
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: I just it was one of those things where it's

770
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: a key point in the game and you've got one

771
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: team trying to drive. I mean they're trying to drive.

772
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: They're trying to you know, move the ball and in

773
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: and just I wanted to show the instincts you see

774
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: instincts with Sean Lee and now you see instincts with

775
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh. So that was really my comparison there to

776
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: try and say, hey, it's vision, it's athletic ability, it's finished,

777
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: all these things that you see with the with these wells,

778
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: and especially the end zone view, because from the end

779
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: zone view, you know you're seeing tackle to tackle. Okay, Clement,

780
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: and Brian points out Clement. He lines up to the

781
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: right of the quarterback and his split was wider, little

782
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: wider than what he normally does because they usually bunch

783
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: of the running back closer to that. And he shows

784
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: vanders Assuming I don't know if you talked a lot

785
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: about it, Okay he Layton notices that Clement is split

786
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: out a little bit wider, so he anticipates that it

787
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: could be a screen out into the flat right now,

788
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: the play with it was Darren Sproles two years ago,

789
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: and he lined up to the left side, brought him

790
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: and brought him back and him back. Okay, yeah, But

791
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: on the end zone view, what's amazing about it is

792
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: you can see okay, it follows the play and then

793
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you see the linebacker is whether

794
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: it was vander Esh or Lee two years ago, is

795
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: already out on the perimeter ahead of the offensive lineman.

796
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: You can see how quickly you can see that they anticipated,

797
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: they read the play, they diagnosed it, and they were

798
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: there to make the play for a loss. It was

799
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: it really uh well, thank you, thank you for watching

800
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: that well. He said after the game. He was leaning

801
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: on a run and then he goes a screen pass,

802
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm going with the screen pass. And

803
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: so it was just his instincts of either how they

804
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: lined up and the situation and what a feel for

805
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: the game. And that's why you know, when everybody talks

806
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: about his production, it's his instincts. Can't teach those, no question,

807
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: and they're amazing. He's got ninety six tackles right now overall,

808
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: leads the team right The record for a rookie in

809
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: a single season is one hundred and thirty six by

810
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Dexter Cokeley. He could tackle well too. Is he on

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00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl ballot because he needs to be. I

812
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: haven't seen him the ballot. Yeah, it just came. I'm

813
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: sure he's not. He will be soon. Gret Goslin yesterday

814
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: on Cowboys Insider, he said that he expects Banderesh to

815
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: get Pro Bowl votes. If if he's not on the

816
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,120
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897
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914
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Speaker 1: to go. All right, let's go to Brian in Maryland. Oh, Brian.

916
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Speaker 1: Brian thought he was being called upon being asked, Brian

917
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Speaker 1: in Maryland, Hey, how you doing, guys? Good, y'all are

918
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: just talking about unsung heroes. There's one player on the

919
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: field that I saw last Sunday that finally got into

920
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: the game. He made Dak more comfortable, he made Zeke

921
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: more proficient, and he even helped Jesse's convert that fourth

922
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: down hunt fake. I think that's Jamizzola. Wally there you go.

923
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: I think because the offseason Keith Smith with us losing him,

924
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: we didn't realize how much of an impact that had

925
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: on our offense and we stopped running twenty one personnel.

926
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Speaker 1: But what I saw is the Scotland hand or I

927
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: guess Dak and Zeke getting comfortable enough with him in

928
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: the back field that he was he was part of

929
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: the big plays. He just wasn't the main part. And yeah,

930
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: I think with him on the field, it just showed

931
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: a different dynamic to our offense. The offensive line they

932
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: were blocking and then he's getting on the second level

933
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: and then you have Zeke dealing with the safety and

934
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: we'll take that every day. There you go. Absolutely, So

935
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Speaker 1: I think as far as people who never get recognition,

936
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: I think, oh Wally has come in and really carved

937
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: out a place for himself. And if he continues to,

938
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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about him being one of

939
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: the big key factors in our red zone and our

940
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: third and shorts conversions. Yeah, there you go. Good observation

941
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: right there, Brian. And that was I mean, that was

942
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of his best game maybe huh by far, by far,

943
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean I noticed him before. Yeah, that's the thing.

944
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean I was ready for him to play with

945
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: some violence, you know, And maybe I was thinking too

946
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: much of Keith Smith. I loved Keith Smith. I was

947
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: sad to see Keith Smith go because I thought that

948
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: he you know, not that old lo Wally doesn't bring

949
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: it every week. But Keith Smith was one of those

950
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Speaker 1: guys that, you know, he was a glass eater when

951
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: it came to trying to dig those linebackers that when

952
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: he got the opportunity and catch the ball for you well,

953
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean they liked ola Wally because of special teams.

954
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: He could be a one back runner. He catches the

955
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Speaker 1: ball really well. But she saw a good example, like

956
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Speaker 1: Brian was pointing out, though you know, a couple of

957
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Speaker 1: the runs, you got a block from Rico, you got

958
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: a block from Ola Wally. The ball spills to the backside.

959
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: It's a big gain on out the back door there

960
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: and then you and then he had really the key block.

961
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: He and march Lillard. I broke that play down too

962
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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You could check that out,

963
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: and so you'll see. I mean, yeah, it was Mickey's right. This.

964
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: We were waiting for this to happen. It actually happened

965
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: hopefully in these games and the coming games that we

966
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Speaker 1: could see more from Ola Wally at the point of

967
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: attack and being more physical. Harp, his name's Harp. He

968
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: checked in with us a few minutes ago and said

969
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods made a couple really nice plays in the game.

970
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: One key play particularly said, you guys haven't talked him

971
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: up much, but that's I mentioned well, I mentioned his

972
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: name as as a possibility disability for that. But we

973
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, and more with Xavier boy, are we maybe me?

974
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, I just I kind of wait for Xavier

975
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: Woods when I want. When I'm down on him, he

976
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: plays well when I want to praise him. He kind

977
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: of has a game where you're like, you know, you're like,

978
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: but I you know, I wish there was more consistency

979
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: to his game. I wish there were more of those

980
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: players that you were talking about now, Uh, you know,

981
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: as your safety, you want that, you want a guy

982
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: that this, you know, Mickey brought up Jeff Heath, and

983
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: I think I think both both safeties have had games

984
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: where they've been outstanding and then other times you're kind

985
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: of like, got to be better than that. And but

986
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: that's that's why I don't think we talk about Woods

987
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: very much because there hasn't been that consistency with him play. Yeah,

988
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: but he you know, the Twitter question or comment was

989
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: was correct. I mean he was. He was a good

990
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: player the other night. See. And and here's the the

991
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: other thing about this team, and Stephen Jones used the

992
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: term about three or four times in his interview on

993
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 1: the Fan on on Monday, young team. Yeah, we're talking

994
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: about a guy playing for the first time in at

995
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: starting at first time at through safety in this league.

996
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: And they have got a lot of guys doing this stuff.

997
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: It is a young team, I think, and I know

998
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: the expectations for the Cowboys are always hey, you better

999
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs? Are you firing the coach? But

1000
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: this is a young team. It's a young team. But

1001
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: now they're veentered to the second half of this season

1002
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: and they're not young anymore. So they're they're freshman's now.

1003
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: Software well, and you basically, in an NFL season, especially

1004
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: if you make the playoffs, you're playing two college seasons

1005
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: if you include preseason games, no question. I mean, maybe

1006
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: happen to Connor Williams. What was going on with him, right,

1007
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: you know that whole thing. But and let's hope it

1008
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to Vanderesh, you know, let's hope that vandersh

1009
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: can fight through anything. It obviously, I think with to me,

1010
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: I think my opinion on Woods deals more with I

1011
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: saw him at Louisiana Tech and he was drafting the

1012
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: sixth round, and I had a third round grade on

1013
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: him and my expectations for him. I was excited when

1014
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: they drafted him, I really really was. And I was

1015
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: just hopeful that he would get an opportunity too that

1016
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: he has today. And Mickey's right, he's a young player.

1017
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: But well, I mean I had I had a high

1018
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: grade on him from my evaluation of watching him play

1019
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: in college. So you know, when he got here and

1020
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: we saw him play someone the nickel, you know, we

1021
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: saw him a little bit struggle with some tackling stuff.

1022
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: But overall, I think he's been a good player. I

1023
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: just think that he could if he was just a

1024
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent than I would feel better about

1025
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: my evaluation of the player. Well, maybe his second year

1026
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: you'll find that, I hope. So, well, you look at

1027
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: this game, then you got Washington and then you got

1028
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: the Saints. Okay, so you got three games in the

1029
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: span of whatever that however many days that is, and

1030
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: two of those games you've got this secondary is gonna

1031
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: be tested like it hasn't been all season against the

1032
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: Falcons and the Saints, right, and um so we're gonna

1033
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out even more about this secondary here

1034
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: in the next two weeks. Yeah, then you know that

1035
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: just your hope is if you can go get this

1036
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: game in Atlanta and then you get a little help

1037
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: from Houston. Houston's playing well, you know, let's let's be honest.

1038
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 1: I mean, ever since they lost the first two games

1039
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: and now I think they won six straight. Yeah, and

1040
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: at a bye week, you gotta hope. Yeah, coming off

1041
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: a bye and Washington really has not scored a whole

1042
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of points, and their injury depleted

1043
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: now and their offensive line hopefully you get yeah, you

1044
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: know you can. You can get those guys to you know,

1045
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: that pass rush in Houston can kind of get going,

1046
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: you know again, and so you know that that's that,

1047
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, things can kind of take care of themselves.

1048
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: You just got to give yourself an opportunity. You got

1049
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: to go out there and play one of your best

1050
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: games against Atlanta. That's just that's just the bottom line

1051
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: on that one. Did Houston turned their season around with

1052
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: that overtime win against the Cowboys. They won like four

1053
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Speaker 1: or five in a row. Actually the win they had

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Speaker 1: I think the seat they were in trouble. They won

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Speaker 1: a game in Indianapolis before they that before that there,

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00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: if they lose that game, remember Frank Reich. Frank Reich

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00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: went for it on fourth down and is owned into

1058
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: the field and got stopped, and they went and won

1059
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: the game in overtime, and I think that saved their season. Yeah,

1060
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: they had two straight, it's because they were owing three

1061
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: to start the year and then the two straight overtime

1062
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Speaker 1: wins over the Colts and the Cowboys. Then they got

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00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: the Bills, then they got a Jacksonville team that was down,

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00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: then Miami and then Denver. One of the reasons they're six,

1065
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: they schedules, schedules played well. The friend league schedule for them, absolutely,

1066
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: But as a team, you start gaining confidence and sometimes

1067
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: you need that and they don't ask how, they don't

1068
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: say how much? Right, Yeah, what's Indianapolis's record? They're I

1069
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: think they're they're four and four and two five as well.

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00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: I think they've gonna you know, they have last yeah,

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00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, I believe the Colts have not

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00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: given up a sack. Three straight wins yeah for Indianapolis.

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00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: So I mean, even when you look at the Cowboys

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: schedule in December or where at the beginning of the year,

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00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: you think, oh, okay, there's a w Yeah. Well the

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00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: last three you're thinking they're probably looking at you saying, oh,

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00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: well there's a w you know, yeah, right, yeah, And

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00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: and that Colts game looks a little different. Now, sure

1079
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay doesn't. No no giants either, no giants one

1080
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: buts on you. But you can't look at you don't

1081
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: look at any game on the schedule and say, oh,

1082
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: we got this. You can't do it. It's impossible. Which

1083
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: one Tampa, Yeah, Tampa Giants. I think so. Now those

1084
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: Giants are struggling. There's one question. The question you're gonna

1085
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: have though when you get to that point, though, are

1086
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: you gonna be playing meaningful games? Right? That's why you

1087
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: got to take care of business. That's why you gotta

1088
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: go win. You gotta be you know, and hey, it's

1089
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy playing the same It's not gonna

1090
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: be easy playing there. I think, you know what, I

1091
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys now are better equipped to sue Filo

1092
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Speaker 1: stays at that at the guard spot. I think they're

1093
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: a little bit better equipped how they're going to handle

1094
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: that now once Maybe Connor is not ready this way

1095
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: he practiced yesterday. But let's say two weeks from now. Yeah, said,

1096
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: they decide to go, it's sue Filo for the next

1097
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: they beat the Falcons and have a good game offensively

1098
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: like they did in Philadelphia, You're gonna see Sue Filo

1099
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: start against Washington. I think they're looking at it. It

1100
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: was one game, Yeah, let me see it again again. Yeah, exactly,

1101
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: because now teams will be prepared for him and give

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00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: him another week. Connor too to you know, get healthy,

1103
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: because what Gregory missed a couple of weeks. You know,

1104
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: don't rush him back because that's the way you can

1105
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: couch it. Sure, you know from that standpoint, you know

1106
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to rush it, you know. And it's

1107
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: a short week coming off this one. Anyway, next week

1108
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: and again they've got those two big inside players that

1109
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: gave you problems. Suefilo can make them, make them run

1110
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: through you there, big Philip. All I know is when

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00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: they lined up and did their little drills yesterday when

1112
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: we were out there, the only starter out there I

1113
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: saw was Else Collins. That's the only one. Yeah, but

1114
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: you feel okay about tiring and Zach, I do. But

1115
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that was looked like a preseason game. Yeah,

1116
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good look. I mean, it was a

1117
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: little unsettling if it was almost like I got that number,

1118
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: who is that? Especially Atlanta week, especially since you're second

1119
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: in the league with the most sacks, tied with the Giants,

1120
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: and did you get that number? Thirty two? Thirty two?

1121
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I thought that's what it was Cleveland. It's not a

1122
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: thing you want to lead the league. So maybe I

1123
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Speaker 1: guess your last thirty five sacks? Yeah yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't for talking Cowboys for this Thursday. Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: coming up shortly here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: we will talk at you again tomorrow. This has been

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