1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: The jury is deliberating in the Donald Trump trial. They've 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: now asked for the transcripts of several of the witnesses, 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: which means we will probably have a delay until we 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: actually get a verdict because they're going back to look 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: through testimony and transcripts. But what was shocking is how 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: the judge went completely outside the scope what its job 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: is when it came to the orders that they were 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: given on the jury. He went completely outside the scope 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: of how a traditional jury. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Is supposed to look at a case. So what do 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean by that? 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Well, the judge basically gave the jury one of three 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: options to convict violation number one of federal election Law, 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: number two, falsification of business documents number three tax law violations. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: He also said it didn't have to be unanimous on 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: those three options. The jury is basically getting unlimited leeway 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: to find a way to find Donald Trump guilty of something. 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: A guilty verdict, by the way, he could actually look 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: like this. Four members agree on option one, four members 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: of great option two, or four members agree on option three. 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: The judge says he will take. 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: That as in essence a unanimous vote, since it's twelve 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: agreeing to either one of those three options. That is 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: not how it normally works in a court case. Obviously, 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump would be able to appeal the conviction immediately, 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: but the Democrats just need to convict them so they 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: can run against him being a convicted felon. 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: Between now and November. 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Everyone knows this is going to be overturned on appeal, 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: There's no. 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: Doubt about it. 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: But the fact that the New York judge Merchant told 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: the jurors that they do not have to unanimously agree 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: on what crime Trump. 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Is guilty of. 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Listen to this as 89 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Harris Faulkner talking about the shock of the order given 90 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: to the jury. 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: Something in particular that this judge said that these jurors 92 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: could do. He just delivered what is being called really 93 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: the pinnacle of all of this. He said that there 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: is no need to agree on what has occurred. They 95 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices. 96 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Thus, this means that they could. 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: Split four four four and the judge would still treat 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: them unanimously. 99 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: What does that mean, Well. 100 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: It's really outrageous because in a normal criminal case, every 101 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: statutory crime has what we call elements of the offense, 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: Like in a bad robbery case, it's you know, you 103 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: have to rob it's got to be a financial institution, 104 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: you have to show intent. Those are the things the 105 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: jury has to agree on unanimously that they were proved 106 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 4: beyond a reasonable doubt. Here, what we're doing is taking 107 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: the element that actually makes this a felony, because remember, 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: falsification of records is normally a misdemeanor in New York. 109 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: What makes it a felony is that you're concealing or 110 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 4: committing another crime. And here the judges telling them they 111 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: don't have to agree about what the other crime is 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: under circumstances where that not only is what makes this 113 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: a felony, which makes it a four year potential prison penalty. 114 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: Rather than a year or less. 115 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: But it's also what gets us into the courtroom because 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: if this had been a misdemeanor, the time to bring 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: this case would have lapsed in twenty nineteen. So the 118 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: only reason they're still able to bring this case is 119 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: because it's a felony allegedly. And yet now the judge 120 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: is saying, you know, you don't have to agree on 121 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: what the felony is. 122 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to agree on what the felony is. 123 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: In translation, they made it all up. So if you 124 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: look at where we are right now, it is number 125 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: one shocking that the judge in this case told the 126 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: jury they don't have to unanisily agree on which crime 127 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: was committed as long as they all at least pick 128 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: one crime, and that among the crimes that they can 129 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: pick our ones. Trump wasn't even charged with. Now, this 130 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: is exactly what kind of a sham trial looks like. 131 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio put it out and said, this is I'm 132 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: going to quotehim. He said, this is exactly the kind 133 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: of sham trial that trial used against political opponents of 134 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: the regime in the old Soviet Union. Is the way 135 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: that he described it. He again is absolutely right. So 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: where are we? The jury deliberations in the Trump trial 137 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: ended Wednesday for the day with no verdict. 138 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: Reached and a judge who is. 139 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Now running a sham trial in the same way that 140 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: Russia the old Soviet Union used to go after their 141 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: political opponents. So judge telling you, hey, you guys can 142 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to be unanimous against any of these crimes. 143 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: You guys pick and choose which ones you like. We 144 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: don't really care. 145 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: And among the crimes that you can pick from are 146 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: ones that Trump wasn't even charged with, and we're totally 147 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: good with it. 148 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: You guys, just give me a guilty verdict. 149 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to know how excited 150 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: the left was after the judge went rogue in the 151 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: same way they went in the USSR Andrew Weissman on 152 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: MSNBC put it this way, as you've noted. 153 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 5: With despection Judge Marshaan, I mean, I am, I'm like, no, 154 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: you know, I felt like a man. 155 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: Crush on him. He is such a great. 156 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 5: Judge that it's hard to see that the jurors wouldn't 157 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: have the same impression. And he's just you just keep 158 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: on thinking if you looked in a dictionary for judicial temperament, 159 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 5: that's what you get with. 160 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is Russia, right like, like 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: they should be proud, this is this is truly. 162 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: A Russian move. 163 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: Let me just give you some other legal experts and 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: what they've said about what just happened. Jonathan Turley said 165 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: he has ruled that the jury will not be giving 166 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: copies of the instructions, but. 167 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: Can ask for them to be read to them. 168 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Again, like he basically doesn't want this in writing, the 169 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: judge is giving this standard instructions that they can reach 170 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: inferences based on facts, such as inferring that it rained 171 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: from seeing people in raincoats. It is a rather Quinn instruction. 172 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: After Merchant allowed the prosecutors to state as a fact 173 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: that federal election violations occurred in this case. 174 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: This is again coming from Jonathan Turley. 175 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: There is no such violation in this case, but Merchant 176 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: did nothing to correct the erroneous impression to carry Ford 177 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: the analogy Senglass was just yelling at the jury that 178 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: there was a virtual hurricane on a p sunny day, 179 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: but the judge remained entirely silent. 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But when you have a rigged juror 226 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: a rig trial, this is what you do at the 227 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: very end of it. So if if he hasn't been 228 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: charged with the crime, charge him with a crime. 229 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: If you think he's guilty. 230 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: Of something, then just figure out a way to find 231 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: him guilty for something else. These are the instructions of 232 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: the judge. The judges say that he wants to stay 233 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: close to standard instructions. The problem is the case anything 234 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: but standard. And now you got a real problem, and 235 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: that is that you have. 236 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: A judge that's insane. A court case is insane. 237 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: And the fact that you give jurors payper instructions every time, 238 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: but this time you don't tells you just how rigged 239 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: it actually is. I want you to listen to a 240 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: guy Benson, guy's a friend of mine at Fox. He 241 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: said this about his worry for the outcome of this case, 242 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and I couldn't agree with him more. 243 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: Listen, and the. 244 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 6: Other thing that I worry about Dana frankly, And we'll 245 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 6: see what the jury decides. And I'm pulling for an 246 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 6: acquittal or at least a hung jury, because I think 247 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 6: this trial, based on these facts is an absolute joke, 248 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 6: or you had the previous DA in Manhattan look at 249 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 6: this and decide no charges. You have the DOJ look 250 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: at these exact same facts, no charges. The FEC, which 251 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 6: governs this realm, didn't even find Donald Trump over this. 252 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: But you have Alvin Bragg. 253 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 6: Deciding, oh, let's try to put him in prison for 254 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 6: more than one hundred years based on this legal bank 255 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 6: shot that no one has ever even tried before. I 256 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 6: think that is sort of an astonishing thing. And you're 257 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 6: talking about the norms that we have enjoyed for a 258 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 6: long time in this country and this creeping sense of 259 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 6: things coming unglued. There is a very real possibility data 260 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 6: that let's say this New York jury decides to they're confused, 261 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 6: but the procetitution says, look look at this blizzard of 262 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 6: icky stuff. Let's convict him of something, and they go 263 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 6: along with it. Then this moves on to appeal. So 264 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 6: you've got the term convicted felon slapped onto Donald Trump's 265 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 6: forehead for the next several months leading into an election. 266 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: Then let's say Trump for that reason narrowly loses the election. 267 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that's what's going to happen. I'm just saying, 268 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 6: in a very plausible hypothetical situation, then that conviction gets overturned. 269 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 6: As many of the legal eagles say that, it would 270 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 6: be as a slam dunk on appeal because of the 271 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 6: buffet of appealable items here after the election. 272 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: Think about what that would do to the AMA people. 273 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: Tens of millions of people who would look. 274 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 6: At the fact pattern and say this was completely politicized. 275 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: They got a temporary verdict for. 276 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 6: The purpose of winning an election, and then it got 277 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: wiped out after the election. That would be I think, 278 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 6: another major nail in the coffin of many people's perception 279 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: of general fairness and equality under the law in our system. 280 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: This is what you call election interference. 281 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, the Left knows this, They know 282 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: this is insane. They were hedging their bets that this 283 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: case was going to be a blowout victory for Trump 284 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago. They were doing this, and the 285 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: reason why is because they couldn't even imagine a judge 286 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: that would give these non written instructions to a jury 287 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: to just get a conviction no matter what, at all costs. 288 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Listen to a CNN legal analyst describing this case. 289 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: What Michael's getting at is that is the burden proof 290 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: is an important want to remind everyone. 291 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: It's on the prosecution right. 292 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: They need to improve the unreasonable doubt that he committed, 293 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump broke the law. And you think, if 294 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: you listening to all of this, you think they fell short? 295 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: How they fell way short? 296 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 7: Because let's start with reasonable doubt. What is reasonable doubt? 297 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 7: And it's not simply a doubt based upon reason. Anytime 298 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 7: a human being needs to make an important decision in life, 299 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 7: if you have enough information, for example, doctor says you 300 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 7: need open heart surgery, Doc go ahead and schedule, I 301 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 7: don't have a reasonable doubt. Conversely, if I say I 302 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 7: appreciate it, but I need a second opinion, I need 303 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 7: more information, that is having a reasonable doubt. 304 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Now, why did this CNN legal analyst say it that way? 305 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: He said it that way because he. 306 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Was expecting that this was going to be a very 307 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: clear victory for Donald Trump. But when the judge gave 308 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: you know this this, Hey, here are your parameters. I'm 309 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: not going to give you in writing. I don't want 310 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: you to overlook it, and you can ask me questions, 311 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: but basically I'm going to give you three different options 312 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: to get a conviction. Here, you can some of you 313 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: can say violated federal election law. 314 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: Others can say no. 315 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: Some of you can say false location of business documents. 316 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: Others can disagree. Some of you can say tax law valuations. 317 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: Or if you just sing he broke the law in general, we'll. 318 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 8: Go with that. 319 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be unanimous on those three options. 320 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: The jury, I'm going to give you leeway. Like again, 321 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: none of this is in writing, just his words. 322 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: So a guilty verdict could could be four members agree 323 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: on one thing, four on another, and for in another 324 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: and bam, all of a sudden, then you guys can 325 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: convict Donald Trump. Now, I also believe this judge hates 326 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Trump so much that he is no longer a. 327 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: Judge. 328 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: He is a radical left wing activists who is living 329 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: out his dream to be important like a psychopath, to 330 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: be the center of the universe at a pivotal moment 331 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: in history like a psychopath, and to be an individual 332 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: that is able to actually sway a presidential election to 333 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: his candidate of choice, which he's given money to, in 334 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. The evidence is overwhelming. Donald Trump didn't do anything. 335 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: There are some that said, well, Donald Trump's behavior turned 336 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: off the jury, for example, and they don't care that 337 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: Cohen lied. They don't care that Cohen stole money and 338 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: admitted under oath, yes I stole tens of thousands of 339 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: dollars from Donald Trump. Like the guy you're supposed to 340 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: trust that this entire case is. 341 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: Around that the federal government wouldn't bring. 342 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Is a guy that looked at you in the face 343 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: and said, yes, I am a con artist. Yes I 344 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: am a convicted con artist, I'm a convicted. 345 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: Liar, and yes I stole. 346 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Money from my boss Donald Trump. 347 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: Twenty four hours ago. 348 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: That audio I played for your CNN was what the 349 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: media was doing to cover their ables because they were 350 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: expecting a hung jury or a not guilty decision from 351 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: this jury. This is a moment in history where again 352 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: I go back to the point I played for you 353 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: also a minute ago from guy Benson. If they geta 354 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: now because the rules have completely been changed, this is 355 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: a kangaroo court. 356 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: This is the USSR back in the day. 357 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: If they can get a conviction of Donald Trump knowing 358 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be overturned, but it won't be overturneduntil 359 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: after election day. 360 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: They just. 361 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: Use this lawsuit to influence and change and alter an election. 362 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: That is the definition of election interference. And the wheels 363 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: have come off, and I'm not sure we're ever going 364 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: to get them back on, because what the Democratic Party 365 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: has said is that we're willing to lock up our 366 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: political opponents, and we're willing to find places in America 367 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: to charge our political opponents with crimes they never committed. 368 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: And then we have found judges who are willing to 369 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: not abide by the law but have kangaroo courts for 370 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: political reasons. This is what they did in Russia under 371 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: the USSR's rule. 372 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: You know. 373 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: One of the things I want to go back to 374 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: you real quick also is this obsession with what they've 375 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: been saying, and they've been saying it over and over 376 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: and over again that while the jury may have been 377 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: turned off by Trump's bad boy antics, can you imagine 378 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: being Donald Trump sitting through this trial and watching this 379 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: injustice be done at your expense and keeping you off 380 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: the campaign trail the way that they've been keeping you 381 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: off the campaign trail with all of this, How angry 382 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: would you be? 383 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: How much would you just sit there and not want 384 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: to lose your mind? 385 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: If I was being charged with these crimes and watching 386 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: what was happening and witnessing it all. Okay, I would 387 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: be sitting there and again I would be going absolutely 388 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: utterly insane because you know that this is a kangaroo court. 389 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: You know it like you know that this is a 390 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: kangaroo court. 391 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: You understand what's going on here, and they're keeping you off, right, 392 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: They're like they're keeping you off the campaign trail. 393 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump came out today. 394 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: And this is what he had to say to America 395 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: about what was happening in the courtroom today. 396 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 397 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: In his own words, I would say, and listening to 398 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: the charges from the judges, as you know, very. 399 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 9: Conflicted and corrupt. Because of the confliction, very very corrupt. 400 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 9: Mother Teresa could not be these charges. 401 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: These charges are rigged. The whole thing is rigged. 402 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 8: The whole country's have mess between the borders and fake elections, 403 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 8: and you have a trial like this where the judges 404 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 8: so conflicted, he can't breathe he's going to do his job. 405 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: And the stuff for me that I can tell you, 406 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: it's a disgrace. 407 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 8: And I mean that Mother Teresa could not be those charges. 408 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 8: But we'll see, we'll see how we do. It's a 409 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 8: very disgraceful situation. Every single legal scholar and the experts 410 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 8: said this is no case. It shouldn't be brought, and 411 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 8: it certainly could have been brought seven years ago, not 412 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 8: in the middle of. 413 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: The presidential election. It was all done by Joe Biden. 414 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 8: This judge contributed to Joe Biden and far worse. Said that, 415 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 8: But I'm not allowed to talk about it because I 416 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 8: have a gay quarterer far worse than that, by a 417 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 8: thousand times worse than that. 418 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: The worst I've ever heard. But I can't talk about it. 419 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: It'll be talked about it, but I'm not allowed to 420 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: talk about it. But It'll be. 421 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 8: Talked about in the history books. What's happening here is 422 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 8: weaponization at the level that nobody's seen before ever. Then 423 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 8: they shouldn't be allowed to happen. So I'll stay around here. 424 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 8: This is five weeks. Then five weeks are really essentially 425 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 8: not campaigning, although I took a big lead in the 426 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 8: polls over the last few weeks. Something that's going on 427 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 8: because I think the people of this country see that 428 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 8: this is a rig deal. It's a weaponized deal for 429 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 8: the Democrats to hit their political opponents for Joe Biden 430 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 8: the worst president in. 431 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: The history of the United States. 432 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 8: He's destroying our Country's letting millions of people from jails, 433 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 8: from prisons, from insanus adams, from mental institutions, drug dealers 434 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 8: pour in Venezuela up. If you look at their crime statistics, 435 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 8: they've gone down seventy two percent. In cried because they're 436 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 8: releasing all their criminals into our country because of this 437 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 8: horrible president that we had. And then they have a 438 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 8: protest of Robert de nire Yes, and he's a fool. 439 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 8: He's a broken down fool standing out there. He got 440 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 8: maggot here, he got maggot yestad, he got a big 441 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 8: dose out. 442 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: But I just want to say, it's a very unfair trial. 443 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: It should have never happened. 444 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 8: If it was going to happen, it should have happened 445 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 8: seven years. He goes, you know, Bragg didn't want to 446 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 8: bring it, The Southern District didn't bring it, the FEC 447 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 8: didn't bring it. This jug didn't even let us. Here's 448 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 8: the number one election attorney. 449 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: He's making the rules. 450 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 8: He doesn't know anything about elections. He doesn't or anything 451 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 8: about voting and vote counts. 452 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: He doesn't know anything about this stuff. That's so there's 453 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: a profession. 454 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 8: We had the leading election expert of the country, Brad Smith, 455 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 8: ready to us if I wouldn't let him know, they 456 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 8: wouldn't let another gentleman who represent it. 457 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: And you know very well you saw it. It was 458 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: the worst I think I've ever seen. 459 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 8: It that were treated on the stand. Buck Castella wouldn't 460 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 8: let him talk about all of the the hundreds of 461 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 8: emails that he was sended by a gentleman, another gentleman 462 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 8: who I can't mention it because I'm gagged every time 463 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 8: I speak to you. 464 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: Yes, any simple questions, I'm not. 465 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 8: Allowed to give you the answer because I'm gagged by 466 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 8: this judge. But we have a very very serious problem there. 467 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: I mean, our country's going bad. And remember, and let 468 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: me just leave you with this. 469 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 8: This is all because of Joe biden Is and. 470 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's if. 471 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 8: I don't think he's smart enough to think about it. 472 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 8: But it's the people that's around him in the office. 473 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: They're smart. 474 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 8: They're fascists, they're communists, but they're smart, and they're ruining 475 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 8: our country. But we're going to win this election November fifth, 476 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 8: going to be the most important day in the history 477 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 8: of our country. We're going to take back our country 478 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 8: from these fascists, and he's thugs that are destroying us 479 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 8: with inflation and with everything they do. How stupid they 480 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 8: are allowing fifteen, sixteen, seventeen million people into our country. 481 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 8: Going to be totally unvented, totally unchecked. 482 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: We're going to bring back our nation. 483 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 8: November fifth, remember the most important day in the history 484 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 8: of our country. In the meantime, this trial is rigged. 485 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, This trial is rigged. Thank you. 486 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: Why did he say it's rigged because he just heard 487 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: the instructions to the jury. He just heard how they 488 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: changed the entire game in two seconds. 489 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: He just heard everything witnessed it. 490 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Donald Trump right now, I'm like, yeah, sure, 491 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna get me right, Like, this isn't a real 492 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: court case. He's been saying it's rigged, but no one 493 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: could have imagined just how rigged it was actually going 494 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: to be until that judge said, I got to get 495 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: a conviction, throw out all the rules. You have basically 496 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: no real guidance from me. You can come up with, 497 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: like whatever you want to come up with. Nothing has 498 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: to be unanimous if you think he may have committed 499 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: some act of criminal activity, some random crime, Like, we're 500 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: going to run with it. We'll go with it, and 501 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: you guys can just trust me that we're going to 502 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 1: get this done somehow, some way. So like, get on board. 503 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: We hate Trump, We're in New York for a reason. 504 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: The charges were brought here for a reason, and let's 505 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: make sure that we do this today. Because the one 506 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: thing they understand is this Joe Biden can walk around 507 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: and during the debate and he can say, you're you're 508 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: a count onners, you're a criminal, You're a felon. 509 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: That's going to work on somebody. 510 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to the MSNBC Andrew Weisman 511 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: on the judge. He wants to sleep with this judge 512 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: basically as you've noted. 513 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 5: With despect Judge Marshaan. I mean, I am like, now 514 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: you know, I have like a man crush on him. 515 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: He is such a great. 516 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 5: Judge that it's hard to see that the jurors wouldn't 517 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 5: have the same impression. 518 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: And he's just you just keep on thinking. 519 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 5: If you looked at a dictionary for judicial temperament, that's. 520 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: What you get. Judicial temperament. That's what you get. 521 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Russia, in the USSR, back in the day, 522 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: this is what you get. You got to understand, Like 523 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: in Russia right now, these judges don't do anything. They 524 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: just take orders from the Kremlin, they take orders from Putin. 525 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: This is what happened back in the day, right, Hey, 526 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: you got a political opponent out there, Yeah, let's bring 527 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: charge against them. 528 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be real, we make it up. Will 529 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: throw the book at. 530 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: Him, and I'm going to convict him because I am 531 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: a judge as being told exactly what to do here. 532 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: And that is exactly what happens each and every single time, 533 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: and everybody knows it. 534 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: It's very very very clear. 535 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just just just run with this, okay, Well, 536 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: well yeah, we need you to lock this guy up, 537 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: got it. In socialist countries, in Marxist countries, this is 538 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: how you play the game. And it works because you 539 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about losing an election. You just 540 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: rig it to make sure that the people that you 541 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: want to run against they don't have a chance. Are 542 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: the people that want to run against you, they don't 543 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: have a chance. Again, that's election interference, which is exactly 544 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: what This entire case is about they know the case 545 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: isn't serious and they're not there. 546 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: It's not Let me let me phrase it a different way. 547 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: This is not about actually convicting Donald Trump of a crime. 548 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: This is about time Donald Trump in court number one, 549 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: being able to use a conviction against him while he's running, 550 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: knowing that's going to be overturned on appeal. They know 551 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: he's not guilty, and they know they're not going to 552 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: even get away with it long term, like Donald Trump 553 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: is not actually going to go to jail. The conviction 554 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: is not about an actual conviction. It's about politics, and 555 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: the politics are in fact very clear. We just want 556 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: to run against him through November fifth, saying he is 557 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: a liar and a convicted felon. Do you really want 558 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: a convicted felon to be the president of the United 559 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: States of America. They know it'll be overturned, but not 560 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: before election day. The appeal will take longer than that, 561 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: and they know it and they love it. Make sure 562 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: you share this podcast please wherever you are. We're going 563 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: to keep covering this when the verdict comes out. I 564 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: am much less optimistic now than I was twenty four 565 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: hours ago, because now the rules have changed yet again 566 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: to almost guarantee some sort of conviction against Donald Trump. 567 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: I'll see you back here tomorrow.