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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our number two of the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. He is the Matt Williamson. I am

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly and Matt. We will do our official mark.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna stick and pick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no trades, no trades, no trades. You're just gonna

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Speaker 3: stand on the spots. Nobody's calling us. I got it. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: live with what we get.

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Speaker 2: So the first Caleb Williams, Drake May, Joe Alt, Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors for shawnu Or Fashonhu uh Dunezia uh light

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Speaker 2: leot To lay two, Dallas Turner, f Waga, Jaydon Daniels,

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Speaker 2: J J. McCarthy, Marius Mims, Troy Fatanu Rock Bowers, Jac Latham,

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Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold, Jared Vers and Quinya Mitchell are all gone.

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Speaker 2: We got hit pretty hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we don't have to fight about Mims, which

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Speaker 3: is good.

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Speaker 2: I think that might be the case. But I think

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Speaker 2: I think somebody's gonna look at the upside and say

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take him Oh, there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think if I'm Cincinnati and I'm looking at that,

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Speaker 2: we got two tackles for this year. Let's take him.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he plays guard, maybe he doesn't, but we're gonna

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Speaker 2: give him a year on scholarship and then plug him

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Speaker 2: in next year.

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Speaker 3: A strange thing almost happened though. What if Quinn and

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Speaker 3: Mitchell would have been there.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm taking that to the podium and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 2: here we go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll figure out slot and yeah, who cares.

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Speaker 2: We may take another corner later and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would have been an attractive pick. But

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Speaker 3: he went in nineteen.

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Speaker 2: He went in nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So are the tackles gone? It sounded like.

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Speaker 2: It, Yeah they're gone. Okay, Geiiton is the top guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm psyched about that at twenty.

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Speaker 2: No, nor am I so Brian Thomas, Johnny Newton, Iron Murphy.

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Speaker 2: So both defensive tackles are there. Yeah, Chop Robinson, Nate Wiggins,

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Speaker 2: Cooper Dejeen, Graham, Barton, kool A, McKinstry, Michael Pennix is

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Speaker 2: still there, Tyler Geyiton, Jackson Powers Johnson, and Donnie Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we have to go any farther than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I would take Thomas. I bet you're gonna

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Speaker 3: want the gene and they're right on the same tier

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Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, I think receivers is the bigger need,

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Speaker 3: and they're pretty equal players. And if I were grading

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Speaker 3: them generically like old school scalped for the when I

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Speaker 3: was with the Browns, I think i'd have a higher

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Speaker 3: grade on Thomas than Dejene.

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Speaker 2: I like both though, Yeah, and in terms of positional

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Speaker 2: value they're pretty equal as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just know I can find a slot in

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Speaker 3: round three. I know I can find other receivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but if we're gonna run the ball like crazy and

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Speaker 3: throw bombs the pickens and Thomas, I'd like that at

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Speaker 3: considering who my quarterbacks are, I mean, they're deep ball

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Speaker 3: throwers and he has tons of ability. Offense is worse

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Speaker 3: off than defense. To me, Thomas would be my choice.

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Speaker 3: And I've gone back and forth on my top twenty

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Speaker 3: of Dejene Mems Thomas if this occurred, and I think

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Speaker 3: Thomas is my one of those guys. All right, I

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Speaker 3: got them, Okay, Brian Thomas kind of rare for us,

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Speaker 3: but as opposed to getting a receiver we like, I

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Speaker 3: think you found one that's exactly what you want.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're back up now at fifty one. Well, how

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Speaker 2: about this Bira Murphy still there, which I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a cheat.

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Speaker 2: Jackson, Powers Johnson still there, Folks.

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Speaker 3: This is going to sound negative on Power Johnson, but

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Speaker 3: he seems to be slipping, and I think he might

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Speaker 3: be there at fifty one. And at fifty one.

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Speaker 2: I'm all in.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I mean, twenty I have major reservations.

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Speaker 2: Well, how about this one, Xavier Worthy was still available too.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. That's interesting, Like if.

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Speaker 2: We hadn't known that, right, right, we may have gone

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Speaker 2: a different direction there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's part of the draft though, part of

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Speaker 3: the draft, right And I'm sure that people are like, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't want Worthy. I want Worthy at fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't want him in the first round

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Speaker 3: for the field.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I'd have taken Dejeene, I'm all in

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Speaker 2: Unworthy here, but if I get I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, that would have been a fun conversation if we

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Speaker 3: were to taken the Jeene and Powers Johnson and Worthy.

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Speaker 3: You're here. It's neither's wrong, no, no, in this case, though,

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Speaker 3: I think powers.

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Speaker 2: Johnson, take Powers Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean that's a gift. That's great. If

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Speaker 3: we don't end up with the tackle, we don't end

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Speaker 3: up with a tackle. I mean, I wouldn't mind a

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Speaker 3: guy that you groom.

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Speaker 2: You know, right, you know, yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 2: you take an old developmental guy, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And see if he's a tackle or a guard or

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of options.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're back up here now at eighty four.

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Speaker 2: The top guys available Cole Bishop, Davontees Walker, Chris Abrams, Drain,

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Speaker 2: m Jatavian Sanders, Blake KRM, Dadrian Taylor Demerson, Cedric van Prant,

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Trotter, Kaylen Bullock with the DJ, the Yale Tackle,

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Speaker 2: Dwayne Carter, Devandre Sweat, Johnny Wilson, Dominic Pooney, Bo Brady,

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Speaker 2: I just love that one, Bo Brady, Leonard Taylor, the

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Speaker 2: Cameron Richardson, Austin Booker, Bucky Irving, Spencer Rattler. Abrams Drain

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Speaker 2: stands out there to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only I was just say, Abrams trained to me.

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Speaker 3: Taylor Demerson, I like a lot. I know that Abrams

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Speaker 3: Drain is a slot though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and gets his hands on the ball a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think he would be my preferred defensive back. My

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Speaker 3: only other one would be the Yale tackle. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I just want.

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Speaker 2: Let me take a look here at what's still available

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Speaker 2: at tackle. So he's there, Fisher is there, Gon Khalaves

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Speaker 2: is there, or Calvis whatever it is. Yeah, Javon Foster

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Speaker 2: is there. Christians guys, Christian Jones is Thereic Kalyn, Kayden Wallace.

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Speaker 2: There's guys there that I can take and say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're we're gonna route, We're we're back with what we

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Speaker 2: have at offensive tackle. Now, maybe one of these guys

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Speaker 2: pushes to get into the lineup. Yeah, right, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that at this point it'd.

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Speaker 3: Be nice to go defense here went you know, we

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Speaker 3: went offense are first two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Abrams dream.

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Speaker 3: That's fine with me. Yeah, gotta be the peck was

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Speaker 3: besides the Yell tackle that to me was the obvious choice.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're back up here now at one or

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Speaker 2: ninety eight. Uh, eel tackle was still there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know a ton about him because he hasn't

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Speaker 3: how he's got a ton of ability. He's obviously very smart.

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Speaker 3: More as a free agent after the year, I think

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Speaker 3: you take that guy and you teach him and you play.

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Speaker 2: Or do you take Blake Fisher because I think he's

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Speaker 2: a safer pick.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was still there too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think the Yale guy has more ability. Fisher has a

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Speaker 3: better way, better chance to be a starter early.

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Speaker 2: I think he I think I think at this point

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Speaker 2: Fisher is the clear double where you're taking the Ale

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Speaker 2: tackle for potential upside. Maybe he works out, maybe he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But if he doesn't, now you're back in the tackle

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Speaker 2: market next year.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, say to the team, I think Fisher makes

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Speaker 3: more sense.

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Speaker 2: I think he makes a lot more sense.

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Speaker 3: With the hope that he's the starting right tackle on opening.

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Speaker 2: Day, which is possible if he's not. If he's not

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Speaker 2: the starting right tackle on opening day, he's your starting

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Speaker 2: at some point during the season. He's probably your starting

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Speaker 3: So we've talked about this a lot, and it is

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Speaker 3: a little sticky. But if this is the pick, are

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Speaker 3: you saying, Broderick, work on your left, Yes, and then more,

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Speaker 3: we're going to train you at both.

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Speaker 2: I think so Here's what I think. Here's what I think.

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 2: You leave your your when you have your first team

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Speaker 2: offense on the field. Yeah, you leave the tackles where

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Speaker 2: they're at.

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Speaker 3: Jones it right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I don't, But but I get Jones some left,

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Speaker 2: some some snaps on the left side as well throughout camp.

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Speaker 3: See, i'd say you're because he's done it period. I know,

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Speaker 3: but he's such a valuable asset. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: slow his left development at all.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hand a third

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Speaker 3: See. This is what I would suggest, though, is like Broderick,

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Speaker 3: you're our left tackle. You're too important. You're our left tackle.

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Speaker 3: And Dan, I know you don't like playing right, but tough, noogies,

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Speaker 3: you're probably gonna hear one more year. Fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: your snaps are gonna be at left or seventy percent

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Speaker 3: going to be at left. And that's hard on you,

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Speaker 3: but so be it. Fisher, you're going to be in

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Speaker 3: the mix at right. Cook, I need you to play

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Speaker 3: a ton of right and if I can find a

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Speaker 3: cheap Raven Clark, that's a right tackle only that's been

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in, what's somebody that can also play like I. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I would have two guys.

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Speaker 3: I know that can play left, Jones more in Jones

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Speaker 3: and Joanes would be my left period.

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Speaker 2: But then I also have two guys I know can

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Speaker 2: play right.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a problem that if more can't. Sorry, Dan,

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Speaker 3: but you're not that valuable to us anymore.

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Speaker 2: I think he I think he's not as as good

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Speaker 3: That's why I think he needs to take tons of

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Speaker 3: snaps it right.

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Speaker 2: We'll figure it out down. A rebuke like Fisher's to pick.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, that's that wouldn't slow me at all

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Speaker 3: from taking it. I just done him what you do

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Speaker 2: They can figure that out.

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Speaker 3: They'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: At one nineteen, we're up top players available. Jatavian Sanders

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Speaker 2: are still there, huh, Bucky Irving, Caatee Stover, Rodrikstime, Malik Mustafa,

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Speaker 2: Tyron Hopper, Kaylin King, Michael Pratt, Mkay Wingo, Jylex Hunt,

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Speaker 2: Dylan Lobb, Jalen Right, Malik Washington. He's different and then

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Speaker 2: uh I wouldn't with that. Yeah, Mason McCormick still there.

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Speaker 3: We took a center, alright, I know we took.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyrie Jackson there, Jamari Thrash still there, Ray Davis,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Davis. I want to take a look here at

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Speaker 2: the defensive tackles.

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Speaker 3: It was two names. Lake Washington's one I'm very interested in.

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Speaker 2: So McKay wing goes there, Tyler Davis. The other Clemson

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle Jordan Jefferson, Keith Randolph justin Agobeeguay out of Alabama,

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Speaker 2: and he's been like he's like six.

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Speaker 3: Three four defensive endition. Yeah, yeah right. I also like

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Speaker 2: Think Malik Washington's too. I think he's really I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I very much believe that.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're back up at one seventy eight, best

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Speaker 3: But you might be really good.

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Speaker 2: He might be really good.

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Speaker 2: You know, Kenny Logan safety out of Kansas, Isaac Grendo

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he shouldn't still be there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, JV and Cohen the guard out of Miami.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian Boyd still there? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Take Boyd? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a nice value there.

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Speaker 3: That works out. Well, another corner wouldn't break my heart.

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Speaker 2: No, we could do that. We're back up here at

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Speaker 2: one ninety five. Top player available, Tyrone.

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Speaker 2: Fabian love It the defensive tackle out of Florida State,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Ed Reid's nephew or cousin.

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Speaker 2: Joe Milton. George Hallane running back at the Boise State,

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Speaker 2: Jakwan Jackson, wide receiver from Tulane, Jerius Monroe cornerback from Tulane,

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Speaker 3: Well, we were just talking about him. We need two

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Speaker 2: You still have Dylan Cook?

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Speaker 3: You do? I still have?

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Speaker 2: You kept those guys on your rosterol last year for

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Speaker 3: I mean the names I was thinking before you said

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Speaker 2: Though, Well if for show at shioh uh, the linebacker

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really think this pick is likely to be

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that we're going to have room

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough. Like I don't think they want

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think they want to get are going to.

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Speaker 3: Be on the team next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you do that, now you've got you know,

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Speaker 2: Vaki would be fine.

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Speaker 3: He would be He may be your kickoff returner after

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Speaker 3: Quarteroll Patterson. He would do a lot of stuff for

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Speaker 2: Let's take him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, see.

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Speaker 2: Ony Vaki's a pick. Plus he's good friends with Nausey A.

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Speaker 3: I forget with that. Okay, he was just blocking. He

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Speaker 2: He was his full back. Yeah, he took over as

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Speaker 2: All right, So we came out of this with Brian

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Chris Abrams Draine. We get the hyphenated draft here at

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Speaker 3: At one ninety five strong.

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Speaker 2: Would you trade the draft right now for that?

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Speaker 3: Ooh I might.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I mean the fact that I think Washington,

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about your receiver room now with Thomas

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Speaker 2: No, no, I think they'd compliment each other.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's one of my favorite slots and it's my

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Speaker 3: you know, right, It's as good as center situations you

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Speaker 2: Not the end of the okay, yeah right, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah to b plus the man, you know, man, I'm

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Speaker 3: happy with it. You'd rather a better d lineman would

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Speaker 2: I'm telling Keanu Benton that, hey, yeah, you're gonna work.

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Speaker 3: I think I'd take it.

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Speaker 2: I think I would too, I mean more often than not.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take door number two because, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: You know, the closer we get to the draft, the

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Speaker 2: And I'm including Mems in that.

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Speaker 2: I'm maybe not Brian Thomas or Mims.

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Speaker 3: I would take Thomas Overms.

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Speaker 2: All right, So if that's the case, then you probably

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Speaker 3: Then I take it because the round two to one

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lowli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt you know, there's a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: about this guy.

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Speaker 3: That guy.

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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco went through and put down his his top

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Speaker 2: guys that, uh, he has valued higher than maybe some

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Speaker 3: With brain knew that. That's not a shock by any means.

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Speaker 3: Oh they don't like him. I mean if they'd given

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Speaker 3: different story in the world. Okay, it's just okay, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So here's Prisco's better time on nause you. By

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Speaker 2: the way, folks, better than team for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I almost brought his name up a

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Speaker 3: He's a good late round pick, tough as could be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Troy Franklin, I get.

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Speaker 3: It is skinniness worries me a little. There's no doubt

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Speaker 2: He said he played left guard in college, starting fifty

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Speaker 3: Why didn't move him to They have a good center

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Speaker 3: in the world.

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Speaker 2: Now he does turn twenty four in May. Yeah, there's

440
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Speaker 2: a reason why he started fifty six consecutive games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, right, Now, old guys are going to

442
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Speaker 3: be in a regular occurrency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he really likes. TJ. Tampa, the cornerback out of

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Speaker 2: Iowa State.

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Speaker 3: I get it. Outside guy had a lot of man

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Speaker 3: you know, just didn't run great.

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Speaker 2: He likes bub Means the wide receiver from Pitt.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a field stretcher, outside player. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean if he was a six five maybe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he he was a cornerback at Tennessee

451
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Speaker 2: before he transferred it to Pitt and became a wide receiver.

452
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Speaker 2: So he's so young at the position.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's obviously they'll know a ton about multiple stuff

454
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Speaker 3: there to work with. Yeah. No, I like the player too.

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Speaker 2: Jarvis Brownlee, the cornerback from Louisville, totally get it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was in Florida State his first two years and

457
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Speaker 2: transfers to Louisville. Can play inside, he can play outside.

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Speaker 2: He's uh, you know, five ten, one hundred and ninety

459
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Speaker 2: five pounds, so he's well, he's a little shorter, he's built,

460
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Speaker 2: he's put together pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, weak or anything like that, and can.

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Speaker 2: Really get after it. Uh. Javon Solomon, the edge rusher

463
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Speaker 2: out of Troy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's another one. I was just reading on edges

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Speaker 3: yesterday and those were the two. It's funny he picked

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Speaker 3: those two. Those are the two that stood out to me.

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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, six round, you know, another tough guy, productive

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Speaker 3: as he should be a.

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Speaker 2: Troy thirty one and a half sacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little undersize. I think I think he's.

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Speaker 2: Six one two fifty, which is which steeler size? Steeler size.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, they don't mind that.

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Speaker 2: They don't mind that. Yeah. Uh, he likes Michael Pratt,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback out of Tulane.

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Speaker 3: Can see that. Yeah, I mean he may have a

476
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Speaker 3: Minshew like career in his last forever, Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dalen Holker, the tight end out of Colorado State.

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Speaker 3: Jhu Comania. Yeah, more a receiving type. I mean, he's

479
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Speaker 3: like the Michael Pruett type.

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00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: Mike Santistro run back out of Michigan. People forget he

481
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Speaker 2: was a wide receiver when he got the Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's not been in I think two years.

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Speaker 2: I think he had twenty one catches for Michigan in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Yeah, he like he played like two years,

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Speaker 2: two years and two years ago. He was still a

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Speaker 2: wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like they recruited him. I mean This is

488
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Speaker 3: a recruiting trick. We're bringing that guy as a receiver

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Speaker 3: or athlete knowing he's gonna be a corner. Yeah, this

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Speaker 3: guy was a good receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he can run. He's tough, he said. He

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Speaker 2: reminds him of a faster Mike Hilton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a little bigger too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which is a good deal. Take that long.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Uh. He likes Junior Colson a lot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I understand it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he likes Jayla McMillan a lot.

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Speaker 3: M He was hurt a fair amount this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it wasn't a great representation of who he is,

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Speaker 3: but a little lean for me. I think he's an

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Speaker 3: NFL wide receiver. Three.

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Speaker 2: He said he thinks he can be a big time

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Speaker 2: slot receiver.

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Speaker 3: That's what he is. Yeah, he's a field stretching slot

506
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Speaker 3: and those don't grow on trees.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna like this one. He likes Patrick Paul

508
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Speaker 2: out of Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's traits there. I just think there's a lot

510
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Speaker 3: of work. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Massan Smith, the defensive tackle out of LSU.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean these are guys we've been talking about

513
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Speaker 3: for months.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a much better pro

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Speaker 2: than he was in college. He was just banged up

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Speaker 2: in college. I mean it wasn't stuff that was like,

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Speaker 2: oh he missed the game because of a hamstring.

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00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: These were big stuff.

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Speaker 2: These were but these were you know, an acl you know, and.

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Speaker 3: He finished his square strong. Absolutely, he was in round three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's a good player.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He likes Shakwan Jackson, the wide receiver out of Tulane.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean the league is friendlier to those guys.

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Speaker 3: He's very small. I mean he's only a slot shifty guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's he's he's five nine hundred and eighty

527
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Speaker 2: eight pounds.

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Speaker 3: Is he so a tiny seventy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not tiny. He's been in a four to

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Speaker 2: four to two.

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Speaker 3: And he's shifty and yeah, I mean, like that mock

532
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Speaker 3: we just did. If we wouldn't have taken Washington in

533
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Speaker 3: the third and taken him in the fifth to pair

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Speaker 3: with a Thomas Like Okay, I see that.

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Speaker 2: He averaged sixteen point nine, sixteen point eight, and seventeen

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Speaker 2: point three yards per catch over the last three season.

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Speaker 3: Good have to catch too. Yeah, I don't knowicze, he

538
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Speaker 3: was that heavy. That's better than I thought Uh.

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Speaker 2: He likes Rasheen Ali, the running back at a Marshall,

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Speaker 2: but he's hurt.

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Speaker 3: He's hurt. Yeah, I know, he's known for his past protection. Yeah,

542
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 3: I mean he does the dirty work. Okay.

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Speaker 2: He likes mo Kamara, the d rusher out of Colorado State.

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Speaker 2: Another one of those guys six one, two fifty but

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Speaker 2: really productive. Ye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's one of our guys.

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Speaker 2: We're had four to five seven combine, I mean, no,

548
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty pounds, like it's for everybody at

549
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Speaker 2: sixty one, two hundred and fifty pounds, not like he

550
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Speaker 2: was six four six ' five and taking the long

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Speaker 2: strides to get to that.

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Speaker 3: Fyeah.

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Speaker 2: And he really likes Trey Benson, the running back out

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Speaker 2: of Florida State.

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Speaker 3: I understand that. Yeah, he's kind of untap potential as

556
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Speaker 3: a receiver too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his guys. Several of those guys are our guys.

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Speaker 3: More than one of those guys on that list ended

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Speaker 3: up in Black and Gold in the next couple of days. Yeah,

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00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 3: McCormick sans trill. You know, it's a handful of those

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Speaker 3: that Mason.

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Speaker 2: Smith mokamara, yeah, right, right right.

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Speaker 3: We've we've marked a lot of those guys the team. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but that is that's Pete Pitt Prisco's underrated guys

565
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: that he feels are being undervalued. I forgot he has

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Speaker 2: one guy here on his his captain of this team

567
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Speaker 2: in that is Bay.

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Speaker 3: We just took him a minute ago. Yeah, okay, I

569
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Speaker 3: think he's in his hook on somewhere. I don't quite

570
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Speaker 3: understand why he's being lumped in like the sixth seventh rounds.

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Speaker 2: Because he ran a four six two ye safety though

572
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Speaker 2: that's not It doesn't bother it doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 3: But he's not going to be deep middal I told you.

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Speaker 2: I can remember watching him at the at the Senior

575
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: Bowl and saying he's more sudden than he is fast,

576
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: Like when he sees it, he closes quick.

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a burst to Yeah. I like him. Yeah,

578
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: he's gonna be great with the new special team stuff too.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I did ask Mike Tomlin about that at the

580
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 2: press conference on Monday, like how much he feels that

581
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: new kickoff rule will affect this draft? He said, you know,

582
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: we're all kind of feeling our way through this. Nobody

583
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: knows at this point. It's all speculation.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense. I was someone phrased the question to me

585
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: I thought was interesting, was do you think it hurts

586
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: kind of the Boykin types? I think, because I do

587
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: think the kickoff rule will be bigger people on the field,

588
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: more tight ends, linebackers have Viski types. Maybe they're not

589
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: going to be the Hayward Bays. Might suffer in the

590
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Speaker 3: special teams world a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't think affects the Boykins though, because he's he's

592
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: thirty pound wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: That's why I switched to the Hayward Bay. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's you know, I think he's gonna be

595
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: fine no matter what. And those guys might be more

596
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: punt gunners now than they are core kickoff guys. Yeah.

597
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: I can see bigger people on the field now.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: we'll get some let's do a little last segment before

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Speaker 2: the draft, last segment stuff just so. The Steelers will

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Speaker 2: have Cam Hayward and Pat Fryarmouth in Detroit to announce pick.

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward will announce the Steelers first round draft pick

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, so you get that, and then I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think they are and then friar Mouth will announce

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Speaker 2: the second round pick on Friday. You've also got going

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Speaker 2: on this weekend, if we just mentioned, just to mention

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Speaker 3: And listen to Dale and I of course for the coverage.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so if you look at Saturday, you can head

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Speaker 2: can of course listen to us on the air when

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Speaker 2: cap Uh. That's for the Steelers Draft party. Cam Hayward

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Speaker 2: will be there after he gets back from the stret Yeah,

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Speaker 2: making that announcement of the first round draft. He'll record

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Speaker 2: an episode of his podcast Not Just Football. He'll have

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Speaker 2: have some fun there, listen to the I'm sure the

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Speaker 2: early draft picks will be there on Saturday as well,

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Speaker 2: so you have some of that. Yeah, so you can

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Speaker 2: catch up on all that stuff. So lots of stuff

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Speaker 2: Hayward jersey or a new.

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson or pick won't be in there, get yourself

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Speaker 3: the draft hat. The draft hats will be absolutely and

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Speaker 3: again listen to us the whole time. You know, without question,

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Speaker 3: I can't wait, man, it's exciting. It's exciting.

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Speaker 2: So as we sit here twenty four or so hours

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Speaker 2: out from the draft, what are your expectations coming out

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Speaker 2: of this thing? Not just for the shoe, if it

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Speaker 2: as a whole, I expect there'll be a lot of acting.

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Speaker 3: I really do. I mean, I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: teams that people aren't thinking about, Like the Titans could

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Speaker 3: move around Atlanta at eight, I think could move around.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be the team picking that first

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Speaker 3: defensive player. If the Bears, Bears are like they've won,

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Speaker 3: they have nine and like nothing else and if a

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Speaker 3: doomsday is not there, I can see them trying to

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Speaker 3: get out and recoups. You know, Day two picks my hunches.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders and Broncos are going to be more aggressive

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Speaker 3: than I would be to land a quarterback, and that

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Speaker 3: could be Penix.

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Speaker 2: That could be when you don't have one, right, you know.

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Speaker 3: I everyone seems to think the Raiders are infatuated with Pennix.

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Speaker 3: I think Nicks and Sean Payton would be hand in love.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's exactly what he's looking for and he

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Speaker 3: has all the power in the world. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be six quarterbacks off the board when the

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Speaker 3: Steelers pick, but I think that there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: lot of action and there could be six starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I think of that with the case, the Steelers would

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Speaker 2: be quite happy. Yeah, no doubt, just because I think.

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Speaker 3: You know it maybe some as we talked about, maybe

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Speaker 3: if someone's to trade to twenty to get one of

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Speaker 3: those or you know who knows. Yeah, I think they're

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Speaker 3: These quarterbacks are gonna be pretty well sought after. Matt.

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Speaker 2: I sent you Mike Clays. We talk about this every

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Speaker 2: once in a while. The the his chart of where

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Speaker 2: he ranks the teams, you get a four for having

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Speaker 2: the best group at that position in the league, obviously

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Speaker 2: a point one if you're at the bottom. And for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers here he has quarterback is a one point four. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the Colts ahead of them at one point six. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I would Yeah, I mean it's an

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Speaker 2: unproven Cults rooms. But the team right ahead of them

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Speaker 2: at one point five is the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Who I think they're in the right neighborhood with the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Those are three hard teams to rank though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Saints are right behind them at one point three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would take all those over the Saints. That

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Speaker 3: was not impressive car last year. Yeah, I mean Watson

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Speaker 3: hasn't been good. No, I mean Richardson, I have I

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Speaker 3: have more hope for Richardson I do Watson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, running back, he's got him in a two point

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Speaker 2: eight okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wide receiver right now is

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Speaker 2: point eight.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I mean it's huge question mark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got some holes there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tight end is two point five good Yeah yeah, offensive

695
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Speaker 2: line is one point five.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I mean you were turning four starters as

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Speaker 3: the stands right now from.

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Speaker 2: A line it was pretty damn good last year overall.

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Speaker 3: And frankly Mason Cole not being in the equation. Yeah right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: now I'd be higher on than.

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Speaker 2: That, you know, just looking at the offensive lines that

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Speaker 2: are around them. They have the Raiders. He has the

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Speaker 2: Raiders at one point six. They're just ahead of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right behind them are the Patriots and the Titans one

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Speaker 2: point four. One point No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think on that. Yeah.

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00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: I think I think they should at least be around two.

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00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: I would say at least a tier above.

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Speaker 2: Who's it? So the Ravens right now are two point one.

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Speaker 3: They have some strengths, but they have some holes.

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Speaker 2: The Packers are at two point zero, okay, the Saints

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00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: are at one point eight.

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Speaker 3: That's a neighbor at ib but they got some holes. Say,

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Speaker 3: the Saints first round pick is probably gonna be no lineman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would put the Steelers offensive line

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Speaker 2: ahead of the Saints right now what.

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Speaker 3: They have, especially with the ramcheck situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the Dolphins at one point nine. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers have a better offensive line than the Dolphins. Kidding

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Speaker 2: hard on them, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Defensive line three point three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, wonder if they're counting TJ and.

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Speaker 2: I would say no because linebackers, they have them at

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Speaker 2: a four.

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Speaker 3: Which as good as you can get.

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Speaker 2: I should say that's edge.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I mean they they have the best. That makes sense

731
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Speaker 2: they do have. Yeah, linebacker off ball linebackers two point five.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Queen carries.

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Speaker 3: A lot different than it usually is this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback is point eight.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I'm porter and Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Porters should carry more. Yeah, wait than that, and Jackson's

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00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: an established NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's a starter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, better than what they had there last year.

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00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And then safety is three point four.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I get it, And I know he wised these

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Speaker 3: things all differently. For his cumulative stuff. Quarterback is more

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Speaker 3: important than running back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so as as it stands, he has the Steelers

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Speaker 2: with the twentieth best roster in the league.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a little rough one.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a little rough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of ones that are worse.

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Speaker 2: Clearly, it will be interesting. I'm sure he'll update this

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Speaker 2: after the draft to see what that what changes dramatically

752
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Speaker 2: from that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're going to address the needs that are

754
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: low on that, you know, the wide receiver situation. Maybe

755
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: they add a veteran wide receiver the next couple of

756
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: days too. Yeah, we'll see possible.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I thought that was interesting that where they

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00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: stood heading into this. I would have them a little

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00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: bit higher than that.

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Speaker 3: I would do. Yeah, but you know, I didn't think

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: any of his grades were egregious, but I would be

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00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: a little kinder to him on the line in particular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, O line, and I you know, I think, uh.

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Speaker 3: You guys set a really good set of guards.

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Speaker 2: Line and cornerback I think are better than they're getting.

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Speaker 3: Then they're getting credit for. Yeah, and I'm sure a

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Speaker 3: lot of it's every mock draft that Mike looks at

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00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: has them taking no line in quarterback, which makes sense,

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Speaker 3: but it's also because those those positions are.

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Speaker 2: Where the values. Yeah, it's values where the values that

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Speaker 2: Matt that's going to do it for the show today Monday,

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Speaker 2: final pre draft show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Monday, we'll be recapping at.

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Speaker 2: All absolutely, but of course you can hear us on

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Speaker 2: these very airwaves over the next three days. Uh, from

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Speaker 2: the draft will be doing all the shows there of course,

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Speaker 2: will be joined by on a ton, Right, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: will be on there with us. West Jueler will be

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Speaker 2: on there with us. Tom Offerman. Uh. So we have

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Speaker 2: we have covered from wall to wall draft coverage. You

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Speaker 2: don't need to go anywhere else. I don't care who

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Speaker 2: they who. The other places say they have talking Steelers

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