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Go to vicetv dot 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: com to find your cable channel. 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: The volume. 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: Ali, Y, we are back with another episode of Rory 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: Maul Don't Know Ball because we absolutely do not know all. 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: We know a little bit, We know what we need 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: to know. 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: But today we are joined by somebody that's gonna give 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: us more of insight on ball. 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Are the violence side of it? 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the violence the physicality of the game. Today we 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: are joined by a legend, legend from the East Coast 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: University of Maryland legend. With the twelfth pick in the 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: two thousand and five NFL draft room, the San Diego 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: Chargers selected an absolute let's just call them a tank, 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: fucking my fucking tank. Make some noise for the legendary 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Sean Merriman and uh, happy birthday as well. How we 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: celebrating towards game. 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: I am about to be forty one, dog, you know 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 5: them days have changed a little bit. 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: I'm looking at doing a three day juice classes. 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's my type of site, that's my type 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: of shit. That's what I'll be on. Yeah. 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: My birthday was two weeks ago and I went to 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Detroit for work. 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 6: You know when you when you get like forty and over, man, 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 6: like I think other people make more about your birthdays 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 6: than you do. 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, like what you're doing for your birthday? I'm like 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: that my birth next week? 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: Oh I forgot you stopped counting after a while. Man. 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: It just creeps it next thing, you know, it just 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: creeps up on you. Yeah. 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: I turned thirty five and when my family was asking me, 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: all I was thinking was like, this is something I'm 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: going to have to pay for, So why. 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: Would I sell them? You want me to go do 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: something that I'm gonna pay for? 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 5: All right? 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: Bet cool? 51 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: I think I'll do nothing for my birthday there and 52 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: save some money. 53 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: Sean. How you feeling though, Man? What's going on with you? 54 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 5: All right, not much, man. 55 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 6: You know we you know, we got a big fight 56 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 6: coming up, you know, miam. 57 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 5: And May League Light Style extreme fighting. 58 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 6: We got big fighting in San Diego actually back in 59 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 6: my stomach grounds at Casino Palma June fourteenth, man, So 60 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 6: just getting ready for that and then you know, making 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 6: some announcements too with Light Sized Sports TV my network. 62 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 6: We had some new content getting ready for this big 63 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 6: tailgate show this year through the NFL, the NFL parking 64 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 6: lots called the Ausman Fans. I always got twenty with 65 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 6: like live stream twenty teams tailgates with the Hospitality one 66 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 6: of the best tail companies in the country. 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: Man. 68 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 6: So it's gonna be it's gonna be kind of crazy 69 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 6: because we got three former players. 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 5: Every team is hosted. 71 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 6: So like when you talk about personalities and you're talking 72 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 6: about like guys just being comical and like talking football 73 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 6: and interacting with the fans like this. This is the 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 6: biggest thing in me to just happened really in a 75 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 6: pregame of sports. 76 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: So just getting ready for that. Just this grinded, just 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 5: been working. 78 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Oh that's I mean, that's the birthday party right there. 79 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: You said forty tailgates or something. 80 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're doing twenty twenty locations, twenty markets, so basically 81 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 6: twenty teams felgates at the same time. So we'll be 82 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 6: like simulcasts and all of them, and it's gonna be 83 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 6: super dope, Like Nobe's ever done anything like this, so 84 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 6: you know, we'll be the first to do it on 85 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 6: white size sports TV. 86 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: I love that, all right, Sean, So so Rory and I, Man, 87 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: we got there. We started this show, man, because you know, 88 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: sometimes we feel like we know ball, and you know, 89 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: we come to realize that maybe we don't know. Maybe 90 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: we just couch spectators, and we feel like we could 91 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: have made that catch or made that block. It's easy 92 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: to say that, but somebody like yourself that played the 93 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: game with such a high level, we're here to kind 94 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: of dig into the nuances and and and break some 95 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: of the stereotypes of people that sit home and say, oh, 96 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: I could have done. 97 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 4: That exactly Dayly is what you said. 98 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: Well, yes, we're not trying to be our Skip Villis, 99 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: but let's start at the beginning show. Growing up in Maryland, 100 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: you played basketball and football. What was the like, why 101 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: did you go towards football and why did football pull 102 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: you more than than basketball. 103 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: Why did you stop playing basketball? 104 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 6: You know, seeing Kevin Durant and Michael Beasley and those 105 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 6: guys like, you know, eleven twelve years old, you're like, 106 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 6: football probably gonna. 107 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: Be for me. 108 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, like they was, they were so far ahead, 109 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 6: and we all came from the same area, Prince George County, Mellen, 110 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 6: you know, so getting to see. 111 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: That what's in the water out here, it's a lot 112 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: of talent out out of PG. 113 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 6: Honestly, man, I'm surprised that, like no one's done a 114 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 6: big enough like story on this. How much talent not 115 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 6: even just in basketball and football too, and Vernon Davis 116 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 6: and you know the viral brawlman, Like it's it's crazy 117 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 6: how many how much talent has come out of this, 118 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 6: come out of the area. And you know, I would 119 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 6: just one up. You know, I was just one up man. 120 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 6: So you know what, you know what got me in 121 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 6: the football I was just too aggressive basketball and in 122 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 6: my when I was eleven years old, my basketball coach 123 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 6: at the end of the season said, you know what, 124 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 6: I got a sport that I think this this will 125 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 6: worked well for you in Okay. So that's that's how 126 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 6: I got introduced the football field. 127 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: So I'm assuming you were one of those that fouled 128 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: out maybe in the second quarter. 129 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 6: Now it was it was a middle affair, you know. 130 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 6: I'm made it past halftime. But you know, it's funny 131 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 6: you talked to any you talked to any football player. 132 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 6: The first thing like, oh, yeah, you know I used 133 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 6: to hoop in high school and college or whatever. 134 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 5: I said. 135 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 6: I was like, Ben Wallace, you get what I'm saying, 136 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 6: like rebound and defense, a lot of putbacks and free throws, 137 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 6: you know, but again, you need you need guys a 138 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 6: caught like that. 139 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what it is. 140 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: Did football come naturally to you? 141 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 6: It was crazy because I never watched really watched football, 142 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 6: and I didn't even know what you do. And so 143 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 6: my coach was like when he put me out, they said, look, 144 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 6: whoever got that football in their hands, go hit him? 145 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 5: And I said, what else? 146 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 6: You know what I said, I could do that, you know, 147 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 6: So that's what I did. 148 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 7: Man. 149 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 6: First first day of practice when I was a kid, 150 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 6: the running back came and called like a little swing. 151 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: Pass out of the silence, and I came and whacked him. 152 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 6: Put them under like the water under the water coolers, 153 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 6: you know, the water cools. The side the water coolers 154 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 6: fell down, and there was a big scene. And the 155 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 6: kid's mom, she was there. She came running on the 156 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 6: field and practice and was cursing me out right. And 157 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 6: so I go back to the huddle looking at my 158 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 6: coaches like I did something wrong, And my coaches whispered 159 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 6: in my ear and they was like. 160 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 5: Hey, do that shit again. 161 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 6: You know everybody, that's what you do. So that's why 162 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: that's why I was home. 163 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: And then the next day seven agents were yeah, seven 164 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: agents all over the country. 165 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: How early was it obvious that you were different in 166 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: that the league was probably in your future? 167 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 5: For me, man, it was. 168 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 6: You know, so when I talk about Kevin Durand and 169 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 6: Beasley and all those guys, you could tell eleven twelve 170 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 6: years old normally like, Okay, these dudes are gonna go 171 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 6: to the NBA one day because they were everything that 172 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 6: they were doing in the NBA they were doing at 173 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 6: eleven twelve years old. For me, it was like thirteen 174 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 6: fourteen when I got into high school. That's when I 175 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 6: kind of started to separate myself where people are like, Okay, 176 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 6: he's gonna he's gonna this dude, gonna go to a 177 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 6: D one college. So I went to Fred Douglas High 178 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 6: School in Upper Marlboro, Maryland, And at that point, everybody's like, Okay, 179 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 6: this is gonna be the first kid out of the 180 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 6: school to go to Division one. So I did that, 181 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 6: and when I got to Maryland my freshman year, it 182 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 6: was like, Okay, this gonna be this is gonna be 183 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 6: our highest drive pick. 184 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: So it kind of like one of those things. 185 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 6: As soon as I stepped on every level, h it 186 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 6: was always those rumblings, those talks. 187 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: I mean, of course it's hometown, but but why Maryland 188 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: as far as I grew. 189 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 6: Up twenty minutes from school, and like for me, we 190 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 6: just talked about so much talent coming from that area. Well, 191 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 6: like Durant, KD went to Texas. So all the big 192 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 6: man guys, all the big name kids when you came 193 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 6: out of high. 194 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: School, they left. 195 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 6: And I was like, man, if we if we kept 196 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 6: all the talent here, like what if KD and Beasley 197 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 6: and all these guys went to Maryland, you know, And 198 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 6: so we had like myself, Vernone Davis and like I mean, 199 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 6: like Navarre or Bowman. The list, I mean, the list 200 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 6: is crazy, you know, Joe Hayden, you know, So we 201 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 6: were stacked up with so much talent, but everybody left. 202 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 6: So I wanted to be like that one of the 203 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 6: first ones that came out as a as a top prospect. 204 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 6: I was the number one player coming out of the 205 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 6: d m V area DC Maryland Virginia area. And so 206 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 6: when I went to Maryland, it was like, man, this 207 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 6: dude had offers from Alabama, from USC from Penn State, 208 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 6: And for me, I was like, I'm staying home. 209 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: I want to be the first. 210 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: And I mean there's some age gap. 211 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: But are you in contact with Katie point Vernon, Davis Beasley? 212 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: Are you guys just because you guys to talk all 213 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: the time. 214 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, never to talk all the time. And I probably 215 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 6: talked to KD a couple of times a year. Or 216 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 6: we're running to each other at you know, some events 217 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 6: somewhere and kind of chop it up. But we're we're 218 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: we're a tight knit group, man, Like all of us 219 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 6: like super tight. As far as you know, we see 220 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 6: each other. I don't care if it's two years. Like 221 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 6: we run up to each other and we talk like 222 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 6: we you know, we talk on a normal basis. Man, 223 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 6: we just really tight, a tight knit group. 224 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: Sean. 225 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: Growing up, how much of football? Uh, like, when did 226 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: it click for you that this is what you want 227 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: to do? And then how much how much of your 228 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: day revolved around the game of football? 229 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 6: Well, I mean back in PG County and Washington, DC area, 230 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 6: man in the in the late eighties and nineties, it 231 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 6: was it was bad, Like it's not like how it 232 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 6: looks now where you know you can go outside run 233 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 6: at night in certain parts in d C and jog 234 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 6: like it was nothing like that. He wasn't going out, 235 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 6: And so I knew for me to have a real 236 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 6: opportunity to getting out of that, football was going to be 237 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 6: a big part of it, like to go get education 238 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 6: and go to Maryland any school I wanted to go to. 239 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 5: And so that's when I started to take it serious. 240 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 6: But you know, I had, you know, when I was 241 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 6: younger because of my living circumstances, like I had angry issues. 242 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 5: I hated it coming home and eviction notices. 243 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 6: I hated it coming home and didn't know if the 244 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: house or gonna have heat or light's going to be on. 245 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: And so football was like my outlet. 246 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 6: I get those two hours and practice a day or 247 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 6: get those game times to go knock somebody's head off 248 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 6: and it was legal. 249 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, man, I can go take my 250 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 5: frustration out. 251 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 6: And so I knew that that was a like an 252 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 6: opportunity for me to get out of my circumstances. But 253 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 6: I had I had bigger goals too, man, just outside 254 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 6: of football, and I just knew that that was gonna 255 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 6: be the way that I was gonna get there. 256 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: Now, what was the music scene for like for you 257 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: growing up in DMV. Obviously we know some of the 258 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: DMV legends and guys that came out, but like when 259 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: Sean is in high school or you know, working out, Like, 260 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: what was some of the music that you was listening to? 261 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: Are You Go Go? Or Baltimore Class. 262 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 5: Go Go and Baltimore music, both of them, you know. 263 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 6: And so I listened to Backyard junk Yard Rare Essence EU, 264 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 6: and I listened to a lot of Kate Swift out 265 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 6: of Baltimore, a lot a lot of Baltimore house music. 266 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 6: But that was really it all the way through. And 267 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 6: then I got into like my favorite, you know, rap 268 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 6: group of all time, Three six Mafia, And so I 269 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 6: started listening like three six Mafia a lot, but yeah, 270 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 6: probably probably out of those. That's That's what I was 271 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: listening to in high school. 272 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: Pause. Are you able to still do the swing that 273 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: ship dance? 274 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: I never I've never been a dancer, but you know, 275 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 6: watch out of the Big Girls come on or something. 276 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 5: I might you know, I might move a little bit. 277 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do you hear even like I feel 278 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: like Ouzzi and a lot of artists I feel like 279 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: adopted a lot of the Baltimore Club sound. Is that 280 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: something that surprised you because it did take a while 281 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: for Baltimore Club to bubble into the mainstream. 282 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: I feel like, now you hear that ship on Drew Records, Yeah. 283 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 5: Now a lot of it, especially because. 284 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 6: Of wild A. Like Whenile came out with What Got 285 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 6: with Rick rosson mainstream, you start hearing a lot of it. 286 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: You start hearing Go Going and Beyonce's music. 287 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: You know, but Chuck Brown was it was a huge 288 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 6: influence on all of us, like growing up and so 289 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: just just being just being. 290 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: There and being around it. 291 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 6: Man, Like the d V area is its own planet, 292 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 6: Like it's this own country in it's in itself, you 293 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: know where you don't you go from the DN V. 294 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 5: You don't hear that anywhere. 295 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 6: Else your dress wise, you know, guys wearing drop socks 296 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: and tims, the lingo you all here anywhere else outside 297 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 6: of the d m V area. And then it was 298 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 6: it was so big. Then it started tricking out where 299 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 6: you know, you go to Chicago, you go, you go, 300 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 6: start going to New York and you start hearing guys 301 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 6: talk like they from from d C. 302 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: Does PG County identify more with Baltimore with DC? 303 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 4: Because I've heard. 304 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: That a million dollar questions. 305 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: That's the split right there, That's. 306 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: A split because. 307 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 6: The truth there is a lot of Baltimore casts and 308 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 6: DC cats didn't like each other. 309 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 310 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 6: And so when I say Maryland, people automatically assumed that 311 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 6: I was from Baltimore. But I was probably thirty five 312 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 6: or forty minutes from Baltimore, yeah, but like ten minutes 313 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 6: from d C. Right, So I started actually saying that 314 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 6: I was d C because I didn't want to identify 315 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 6: as as from Baltimore because Baltimore had like this student 316 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 6: I joke with Mellow about this sometimes and stuff, because 317 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: you know, had like a dirty like a dirty. 318 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 5: Field to Baltimore. You know, that's how you see guys 319 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 5: look at it then. 320 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 6: So so I always I always used to say that, 321 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 6: you know, I was from Washington, d C. Because I 322 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 6: was more closer to Washington, d C. Than I was 323 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 6: to Baltimore. 324 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: And then was it Richmond at Montgomery County? What's the 325 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: other one on the county. 326 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what that's where Wilder's from. 327 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 328 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's you would say, more identifies DC than 329 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: it does Maryland or Baltimore in particular. 330 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent, like you would think while it's 331 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 6: from DC before he is from Baltimore. 332 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I'll tell too, Yeah, but love, 333 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: it's funny. The Virginia part of the d m V 334 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: conversation is always the strangest one to me because there 335 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: is like Alexandra and right there, but you still have 336 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: such a big state, Like I don't even think people 337 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: to people from Virginia Beach even claim the d m 338 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: V or Norfolk. 339 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: Is that way too far now? 340 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 6: Yeah that's just way yeah, you way out there. But again, 341 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 6: you know, it's so hard to really talk about them 342 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 6: because you talk about like Fairfax, Alexandra, Alexander, you can 343 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 6: get from there to. 344 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: D C at a four minutes yeah, yeah, well you know. 345 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: But you're in Virginia. 346 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you start talking about like rich Bend, Virginia. 347 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 6: But you know, Chris brown Up is from Virginia, Michael 348 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: Vicks from Virginia. AI is from from VA. So it's 349 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 6: it's again. Man, It's so crazy when you get in 350 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 6: that DNV area. 351 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: Did you ever play against t C Williams High School? 352 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: No, that was I think that was the d C. 353 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: Whatever, what's the remember the Titans one? That's it? 354 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 5: Right? 355 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: So I watched Remember the Titans my entire life and 356 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: thought it was in like the Deep South. I found 357 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: out that shit was five minutes outside of Washington, d C. 358 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: I thought they were in some farm. They're thinking that 359 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: that was like the Deep South. The whole time. I 360 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: did not realize big foods like nah. 361 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 4: I thought she's like father from DC. 362 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: So basically thought Sunshine was from Alabama. 363 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: Exactly one hundred percent. I'm like, this's some country ass 364 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: shit they was. 365 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: They was not country. There was five minutes away from 366 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: southeast exactly. 367 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: All right, Sean, So you get drafted the twelfth pick 368 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: two thousand and five, You're going to San Diego playing 369 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: for the Chargers. 370 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: What is the first thought on your mind, man, that 371 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: I was. 372 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 6: So I took my visits to the ben Radskins, you 373 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 6: know now Washington Commanders. Yeah, I went to like Dallas Cowboys, 374 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 6: the Lions, and I went to. 375 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: The Chargers. 376 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 6: I've never been out to the West coast before ever, 377 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 6: and so you know when I yeah, I wanted to 378 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 6: kind of stay home again, like if I got a 379 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: chance play for them Redskins, I'm like, oh, man, I 380 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 6: go to college, here go then I'm a knife pick 381 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 6: overall Like now you super hometown hometown kid, man, I would. 382 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 6: I took my visit San Diego. I flew over that 383 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 6: water for the first time, the palm trees. I said, Man, God, 384 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 6: they ain't gonna bless me this way. Drafted, I said, 385 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 6: I said, the only way, man, I gotta do some 386 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: more charity, Gotta go to church a little bit more. 387 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 5: I'm getting drafted out of here. 388 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 6: And when I got drafted, and it was like the 389 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 6: best because I always I would say this to everybody, man, 390 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 6: like I love home. I still represent Pee, I still 391 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 6: got a three on one number. 392 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: But you gotta go. You got to see other things. 393 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 6: You got to get away a little bit to experience 394 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 6: and see other things. And when I went to San Diego, man, 395 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 6: it was like a dream come true because for one, 396 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 6: they had a good team. I was coming into a 397 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 6: good team. I think they went twelve and four that 398 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 6: year before before I got there. And now you're in 399 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 6: the West Coast in the best place in my in 400 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 6: my opinion, San Diego, the best place to live in 401 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 6: the country. M hm, I've heard that so beautiful. Yeah, Man, 402 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 6: I went there. I was like, man, it's unbelievable. You 403 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 6: get a chance to be high draft picked twelfth overall, 404 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: normally you're going to. 405 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 5: Cleveland again, You're going to you know, you're going. 406 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 6: To something that's not, you know, really a nice city 407 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 6: that people want to get drafted like, you know, I 408 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 6: like Cleveland, but it's San Diego. 409 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 4: It's not San Diego. 410 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: No. 411 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: Maul talks a lot on this show about athletes having 412 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: to compete with rappers in the club or you know, 413 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: when they get drafted to a city, they got to 414 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: deal with the drug dealers. What was it like competing 415 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: with Navy seals for women in San Diego, Because that's 416 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: a very unique experience to San Diego. The rest of 417 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: these athletes had to deal with Rappers in LA or 418 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: New York or whatever you had to deal with Navy Seals. 419 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking Sean. 420 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm taking Sean kicking a Rappers ass any other NFL players, 421 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: And I just don't know if the Seal team sixers 422 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: in the club. If I'm taking Sean Merriman over the 423 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: Seal team. 424 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, they not getting the sections and I'm. 425 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: Man our tax dollars don't pay them enough. Yeah, but 426 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean that is like a coach. 427 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 6: I love our military, but ain't they ain't come up 428 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 6: with a bottle minimum, you know, so, I think now, 429 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 6: which was crazy because San Diego didn't have really nobody else. 430 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 6: They didn't have a basketball team and the hockey team. 431 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 6: You know, like you said, it wasn't just the Rappers 432 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 6: you got. There was no other sports teams really, yeah, 433 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 6: you know, the Padres kind of came around. But we 434 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 6: were it. And so we were the basketball team. We 435 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 6: were like the highlight of the entire city and so 436 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 6: and then too we will win it on top of that, 437 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 6: like we weren't scrubs, we weren't bumps, and we were 438 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 6: out there winning games. 439 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 5: And so now it's you're at the top of the 440 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 5: world at that point, who's. 441 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: The greatest Who is the greatest athlete you've ever. 442 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 5: Seen that I played against? 443 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: Or like just in general, actually both that you played 444 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: against and that you just seen. 445 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 6: Honestly, probably Vernon Davis that I played with as far 446 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 6: as like just a freakish athlete may do with two 447 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 6: fifty round and four to three. You just don't even 448 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 6: see nothing like that and crazy strong and athletic and explosive. 449 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 6: And I played with that Tony and Caramarti he was 450 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: he was another one. But may you get up there 451 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 6: to the NFL, man, you start seeing some freakish, like 452 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 6: just some freakish players with that. I saw Lineen is 453 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty pounds and can win mail off 454 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 6: the vertical, like you just you said some silly shit 455 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 6: at that point. Yeah, so you see yeah, tons everywhere. 456 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: I mean you had ELT at that time too. 457 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: What was that era? 458 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: Like even with Philip Rivers, ELT was Antonio Gates. 459 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all right. 460 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: Sense of the question. 461 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: Why did that team not win the Super Bowl? 462 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: See, no, we're gonna go there, huh. 463 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 4: Like you guys had a squad, Yeah, on both sides. 464 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: You know what, man, I don't really regret a whole 465 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 6: lot about my career, but that's one of them. Because 466 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 6: you know, I still talk to a lot a lot 467 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 6: of a lot of friends of mine of Hall of famers, 468 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: and they got super Bowl rings, and you know, the 469 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 6: Marshall Fox who I talked to, Michael Irv and Deon 470 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 6: Sanders and all these guys who was around they got 471 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 6: they got either jackets and rings. 472 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 5: Or both that things. 473 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 6: Sting Man because we we had that especially we were 474 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 6: really good between the two thousand and five and twenty ten. 475 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 5: We were we were had very good teams. 476 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 6: That twenty sixteen Man was in my opinion, the best 477 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 6: team of the decade. And I know that the Patriots 478 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 6: had their undefeated and stuff, and the Colts and you know, 479 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 6: but that team that we had, MAN was so dominant. 480 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 6: And you look back and we asked ourselves the question 481 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 6: all time. 482 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 5: I was talking to Lt. 483 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 6: Dannie Thomason some months ago and we got together and 484 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 6: I was like, we bring it up, like just happened? 485 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: Like how like? Like why not? 486 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 6: Because we were so dominant as so many like I 487 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 6: played with potentially five Hall of Famous on one team. 488 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you. 489 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, when you look at it like that, it's like 490 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 6: there should have been no reason. 491 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 5: I think the main reason is. 492 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 6: That we were young, and we were so good that 493 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 6: we always felt that we could get back there, and 494 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 6: so when it was things on the line, like fourth 495 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: quarters or big situations, I think that we didn't lock 496 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: in enough in some of those things, or penalties or 497 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 6: just something dumb that we didn't really understand the moment. 498 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 6: Because we were so good, we just we felt invincible, man. 499 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 6: I mean, the practices used to be harder than the games, 500 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 6: like seeing Antonio Gates every day and then lighting it 501 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 6: up against whoever it is, it didn't even matter. And 502 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 6: so Cean lorenz O'Neil at fourth back, you got a 503 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 6: class with him. You ain't getting no clash out of 504 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 6: anybody else than that. Seeing LT We were so stacked. 505 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 6: But then one year we had el Ladanian Thomason start, 506 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 6: Michael Turner back, Michael Turner backing him up. Who did 507 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: who killed it out there with the Fogers? When he left, 508 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 6: we had Darren spros Is the third string running back. 509 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 5: That's how I mean. 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But that defense that they had with 531 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 6: Michael Irvin and and like Oca and Tuck justin Tuck, yeah, 532 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 6: I mean they were. It was crazy. They had so 533 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 6: many guys in that defense that also contributed. 534 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: And you need a little bit of luck, man, like 535 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 5: that catch it, but my boy had off. 536 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: His help like catch that. 537 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it just don't even happen. 538 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 6: So I think that the cards fell in place with 539 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 6: them also too. 540 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 5: You know who they had to play against at the time. 541 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 6: You know, the division wasn't wasn't always the greatest to 542 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 6: mean Dallas, you know, Cowboy were good. 543 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 5: Where they just were dominant in that position. 544 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 545 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: Right now, you went to San Diego. You wore number 546 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: fifty six. Obviously the legendary recipes Junior say, I war 547 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: number fifty five. How much of an impact did he 548 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: have when a young Sean Merriman coming into San Diego. 549 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: What were the conversations like with Junior? 550 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: Sayou man. 551 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 6: So it's you always watched him as a as a player, 552 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 6: right you see. 553 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 5: Him running sideline and sideline. 554 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 6: Jumping over He just he played at a high level, 555 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 6: like for full quarters. 556 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 5: You don't even see anything like that, just next level. 557 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: I didn't know how big Junior was until I got 558 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 6: to San Diego. Like he was San Diego you step 559 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: in there and you mentioned Junior Sea, You're like you're 560 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 6: talking about president level where he has He's just he 561 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 6: captivated that city and you know he had his restaurant, 562 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: he had charity events and just he was the most 563 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 6: loved person between him and him and Tony Gwenn to 564 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 6: ever come through with the city. And so I didn't 565 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 6: realize how big he was. And I saw him when 566 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 6: I got drafted and I walked in. I was out 567 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 6: there and I walked in the lobby of the building. 568 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 6: He was coming down the stairs and we stopped. We 569 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 6: talked for about, you know, a couple three four minutes. Whatever, 570 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 6: told me good luck, and you know, he was ah 571 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 6: wan to watch to see me playing some what I did. 572 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 6: And at the end of the conversation he said, buddy, 573 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 6: He's like, all right, buddy, man take these basically, you know, 574 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 6: do your thing this year. And so in my head, 575 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 6: I'm twenty years old. I'm not in twenty one. 576 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: I don't believe. In my head, I'm thinking, like, yo, 577 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: Junior say. 578 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 6: I just called me buddy, Like I'm I got I'm 579 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 6: like shit, he called me, buddy. 580 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: We're cool, We're friends, right. 581 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 6: So I go to a couple of meetings and then 582 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: I walk out of this meeting and I saw him 583 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 6: going down the hallway and he called everybody, buddy. 584 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: It's deflated, especially you're not. 585 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 5: Especially it was his thing. He called everybody buddy. 586 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: Man. 587 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 6: So I still tell that story because I was like special. Yeah, 588 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 6: after I was special, and you know, he called me 589 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 6: buddy and uh but man, he just you know, I 590 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 6: got a lot of workout tips from him. And even 591 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 6: then in his fourteen fifteen sixteen year during the off season, 592 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 6: he still worked like an animal, like you just he 593 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 6: wasn't even real, and so I any doctors he had 594 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 6: as therapist, nutritionist, I got, I hired him all everybody 595 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 6: he went to. I hired everybody Junior had. 596 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's interesting. 597 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: Well, since we're on nicknames like buddy, was there a 598 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: specific moment that the nickname lights out happened? 599 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? 600 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: Was it over time or was it one day that 601 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: somebody's like somebody's TV turned off? 602 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: My my? 603 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 6: Uh my sophomore in high school, I knocked out four 604 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 6: kids in one game. 605 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 5: So that's that's how the name happened. 606 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 7: So you can't just breathe over that ship over knocking 607 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 7: out four dudes and like, yeah, so I did that, 608 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 7: and then you know, then I went and just had 609 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 7: some dairy queen after the game, and it was just 610 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 7: like whatever, you know, Yeah, had. 611 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: Four others that I'm sure you had to deal with. 612 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 6: My dude, it was it was a fiasco after that. 613 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 6: So I walked off the field out of that game, 614 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 6: and like twenty or twenty five students coming run up 615 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: to me and they said, man, you knock those kids, 616 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 6: you know, those kids lights out? And I said, yeah, 617 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 6: you know what called me lights out? And so I 618 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 6: go to school. I go to school and I didn't 619 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 6: even I just said it. I didn't even think anything 620 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 6: to it. I went to school on Monday, and I 621 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 6: got my backpack on, I got my books in my hand. 622 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 6: I walked past, you know, everybody in school and they're like, yo, 623 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 6: what's up. Lights So it already somehow carried This is 624 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 6: pre social media, so they already carried hour into school. 625 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 6: And so I went home that day and I literally 626 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 6: begged my mother to let me get this lights out 627 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 6: tattooed on my right form. 628 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: And so my mother was like a big smoke smoker 629 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 5: at the time. So I ran in the room. 630 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 6: I opened the door and like smoke just went everywhere, 631 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 6: Like I'm trying to move smoke out of the way so 632 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 6: I could find her. Sit on the bed, said mar 633 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 6: this lights out thing gonna be big man, people who 634 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 6: already called me lights out. I want to get this 635 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 6: lights out tattoo on my on my right fourth forum. 636 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 6: She looked at me and took one more puff of 637 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 6: a cigarette and said, boy, get the hell out to row. 638 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: She knows brand You were ahead of your time with 639 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 2: branding and marketing. 640 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so I always had that. 641 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 6: So anyway, you know, every day for two weeks I 642 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 6: bothered her, and she finally let me go get this 643 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 6: lights out tattoo on my on my right forearm like 644 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: two weeks later, and so I got to funny story, 645 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 6: I got to uh, got to Maryland and put it 646 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 6: on a big platform and had a big game Friday 647 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: night against Georgia Tech on ESPN. I had a big hit, 648 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 6: and so boom, that lights out thing came back on 649 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 6: the national platform. 650 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: I get to San Diego, and now you got Lt. 651 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: Gates and Philip. 652 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 6: Rivers, Lorenzo O'Neil, Jamal Williams like all these, you know, 653 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 6: Randall Godfrey, Donie Edwards. They're looking at me. I just 654 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 6: turned twenty one, and we're not calling you no damn 655 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 6: lights out. 656 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 5: You're a rook. 657 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 6: We call you rook on fifty six, and so I 658 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 6: was like, I looked at him, like, okay, cool. 659 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 5: We uh. 660 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 6: We had a game against Kansas City and running back 661 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 6: Priest Holmes, who was one of my you know, one 662 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 6: of my favorite players of all time, and. 663 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 5: I went out and hit him and knocked him out, 664 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: and after the like when right after. 665 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 6: The game, I walked over and LT put his hand out, 666 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 6: it was like a good game likes. 667 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 5: So I got you know, I got my respect then 668 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: from all the. 669 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: Guy one one time. I mean, you put preests homes down, 670 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: that's his. 671 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: All right. 672 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: I have to backtrack though. Can you walk me through 673 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: all four knockouts your sophomore, Like, can we do play 674 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: by play one through four of each of these teenagers 675 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: being knocked the funk out? 676 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 677 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: Well, well one of them. One of them was a fullback. 678 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 6: One of them was a quarterback. When I was a 679 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 6: wide receiver to cut back, and it was a guy 680 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 6: on kickoff. 681 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: We did like a. 682 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: Na Yeah, the quarterback quarterback receives what the running back 683 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: in a kick in a kick returner. So you took 684 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: away their offense and special teams in three quarters. 685 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a guy that was blocking me on 686 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 6: the on the on the on side kick. 687 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: It was a lineman. It was blocked. 688 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: I was freshman year football. I remember because we had 689 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: to do weighan's every day. I was one hundred and 690 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: two pounds. If Sean Merriman knocked out the current wide 691 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: receiver and it was like get in there, Rory, and 692 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: his nickname was lights Out, I would have quit football 693 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 2: my freshman year. 694 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got fuck that. I'm not sure. 695 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 6: It's funny. So after that game in high school, we 696 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: talked about the parents. When I was a kid, after 697 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 6: the game of high school, I had one of the parents. 698 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 6: We used to walk up through these little gates, these 699 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 6: fens and walk on the basketball court in order to 700 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 6: get up to the to the football field. I had 701 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: a parent account. You know, basketball players play defense and 702 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 6: they get down their stands. They put their hands out. 703 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 6: Parent just blocking me from getting on the field and said, 704 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 6: I don't belong to play with her son. 705 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 5: I need to show a birth certificated. 706 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 6: And it was it was crazy after that, man, like 707 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 6: they're trying to get me off the field, and they 708 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 6: actually challenged the school. 709 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 5: I had to produce all these kind of records to 710 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 5: show that I was my age. 711 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 4: It's crazy. I mean I'd probably be that parent too though. 712 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: No, absolutely in high school walking on the field and 713 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: my son is five to eight, but get this fucking 714 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: tank on the field. So we just had the NFL 715 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: Draft and the news coming out of the draft this 716 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: year obviously with Sadr Sanders fall into the fifth round. 717 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: As somebody who's obviously traveled that road and and and 718 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: played college football and had to go to the draft, 719 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: what were you thinking watching that? Did you feel like, uh, 720 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: it was a personal attack on coach Prime and his family, 721 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: or do you feel like maybe you know, as a player, 722 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: Sean Merriman looks at your doing says the kid is 723 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: not maybe as good as they think he is. 724 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 5: Yet Yeah, I think it was a combination. I think 725 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: it was a combination of both. 726 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 6: I think that that Dion, who's one of my favorite 727 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 6: players of all time. 728 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 5: And I mean I remember doing it back when I 729 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 5: was a kid. 730 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 6: I had the head band around the neck doing the 731 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 6: Deon Sanders dance in the backyard when I scored. So 732 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 6: you know, he's one of my favorite players of all time. 733 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 6: He has such a strong voice. You know, everybody listened 734 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 6: to Prime that I think that a lot of teams 735 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 6: don't want to be on their scrutiny, you know. And 736 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 6: you know it was some pre draft stuff that was 737 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 6: said that like certain teams that they should do well 738 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 6: or won't go to you. 739 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: I think it was a little bit. 740 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: I think that you know, should door probably rubbed some 741 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 6: coaches the wrong way when those meetings, you. 742 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 5: Know, I think out of a part of it, and. 743 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: Also too, man, I think that you know, if you're 744 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 6: going to take on somebody with all this, all this 745 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: like media and attention behind them, like he better be 746 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 6: a bona fide star, superstar in order for you to 747 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 6: deal with because the NFL will deal with it if 748 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 6: you got some baggage of you got something with you 749 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 6: and they don't like certain things, but you just nimble 750 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 6: one of your position, they'll take a chance because they 751 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 6: think there's enough upside for them to deal with whatever 752 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 6: they got to deal with. So I think that is 753 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 6: looking like, man, like you're gonna get judged by Dion 754 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 6: if he ain't playing. You're going to have cameras in 755 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 6: the locker room and media all the time on why this? 756 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 5: Why that? 757 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 6: Because you got such a big name and prominent player 758 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 6: that with a strong family name, and a very opinionated, 759 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 6: very like blunt. So I think it was a it 760 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 6: was a combination of everything, man, I don't I don't 761 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 6: think that. 762 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 5: I don't think it was one thing. I think it 763 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 5: was everything. 764 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 6: When they went down their draft or their evaluation, they 765 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 6: was like boom boom, boom boom, Okay, we can't do it. 766 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 5: I don't think that. I don't think it was one 767 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: single thing that happen. 768 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeh think I agree. 769 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: Before we get off the lights out conversation, what was 770 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: the hardest hitting running back? Not shifty, his hardest to tackle? 771 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: Who was the only one where you felt like, Okay, 772 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hurt myself too trying to tackle. 773 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 6: I mean the only one, the only one that ever 774 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 6: got me was Morige and Drew in two thousand and seven. 775 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 6: And you know what's funny, Like people call him small, 776 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 6: but you gotta think he's just shut it. Ain't nothing small, ain't. 777 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: Nothing low gravity too. 778 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, this dude got a seven hundred pounds squad and 779 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 6: five hundred pounds, Like he's just ridiculous. He's strong and 780 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 6: he probably like two fifty, so we're not that big 781 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 6: of as side. 782 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 5: He's just short and so two thousand and seven, we went. 783 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 6: Down there played him in the game, and they ran 784 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 6: this formation where the fullback named Greg Jones, who's also 785 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 6: big as hell, in like six three to sixty two 786 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 6: two fifty plus or two sixty running dead at me. 787 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 6: So I'm ready to go up against him. He just 788 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 6: moves a little bit over to the right, runs past me, 789 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 6: and Maurice Jones Drew's right behind him, all five six 790 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 6: of them, and just boom, hit me right under the chin. 791 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 5: And I didn't know what the hell happened. 792 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 6: Right like, I got up, I popped back up because 793 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 6: I'm like, I ain't know, nobody. 794 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 5: Gonna see this. Everything everyone, and so they didn't know. 795 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 6: It was going to be that big, right, So I 796 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 6: got up and I heard the crowd saying ooh, But 797 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 6: I didn't really think it was ood because of me, 798 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 6: because I got up so fast. 799 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: I ain't really think I saw it. 800 00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: Man. 801 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 6: We we left jacksonvill because we lost that game. We 802 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 6: left Jacksonville. We got home. By the time we landed, 803 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 6: they had like two all too full of commercials made 804 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 6: on this head. 805 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: Man. 806 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 6: I was like, Yeah, whoever in this editing house the 807 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 6: flip commercials that fast I'm like, I need to hire 808 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 6: They do a magnificit job, two commercials made, and. 809 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: You need your royalties for being in it. 810 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 5: Oh, dude, like it was, it was. It was bonkers. 811 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 5: It was bonkers. 812 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 6: But that's probably only the only time I got I 813 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 6: got got. 814 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: What about all any tight ends that that were tough? 815 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 5: Rob Rob Gronkrouse is probably the toughest. 816 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 6: That's not you know, an Tonio Gate, I'm gonna put 817 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 6: up there, but he's my teammate. But after him, Rob 818 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 6: Gronkowski was tough, and Tony Gonzalez was tough to deal with, 819 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 6: and some of the bigger ones, like the guy who 820 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 6: was on the opposite side of Tony Tony Gonzales, people 821 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 6: ain't eve talking about because he was a blocking tight end, 822 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 6: Jason Dunn. But this dude was every bit of sixty 823 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 6: seven almost ninety three hundred pounds playing tight end. Yeah, 824 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 6: he was hell to deal with. So but yeah, we 825 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 6: I seen I've seen all the best of them. 826 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 5: Now. 827 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: We talked to Terrell Suggs a couple of weeks ago 828 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: and unfortunately, you know, he was his first ballot to 829 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: go into the Hall and he was denied. Coach Coach 830 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 3: Billichick was on a podcast and uh, you know, he said, 831 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: any any player that he had the double team every 832 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 3: possession is an absolute Hall of fame in his eyes. Terrell, 833 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: you know, expressed us to his disappointment and not making 834 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: it first ballot. How important is the Hall to you? 835 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 4: Though? 836 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 5: It is? 837 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 6: But you know, for me, my my career was cut 838 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 6: shortcuts of injury, right, so I know that you know, 839 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 6: it's a long shot for me again and if I 840 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 6: even have an opportunity to get in because and by 841 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 6: the way, man, I believe the longevity. And when I 842 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 6: saw Terrell Suggs not getting in, I said, man, I'm 843 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 6: never getting in. You get because he had such a 844 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 6: long and great career. But you know it used to 845 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 6: be something that was a priority to me and for 846 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 6: a long time. But then you start looking at it, 847 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 6: man is I started looking at the impact, like the 848 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 6: impact you had on the game when you know, when 849 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 6: I was healthy and when I was playing for those 850 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 6: years and then you know, whenever somebody to talk about, 851 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 6: you know, anywhere between two thousand and five and two 852 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 6: thousand and eight or nine, and you put me up 853 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 6: there with some of the greatest and not only members wise, 854 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 6: but just somebody is dominant was taking over games and 855 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 6: my name to get mentioned. 856 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 5: You know, I'm pretty cool with that. 857 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 6: Like to me, that's I think that's dope for to 858 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 6: get mentioned up up there the rest of those guys 859 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 6: who end up going to the Hall of Fame. 860 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 5: But you were still talked about doing that era. 861 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 862 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: Before we get to our don't know ball trivia questions, 863 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: I do have to ask, because it's one of my 864 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: favorite shows. Ever, what was it like to shoot on 865 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: the show Entourage? I assume you got shot that one day, 866 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: but it was still a pretty pivotal scene, like you 867 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 2: were there with all the NFL owners, Jeremy Piven, Like, 868 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: what was that day? 869 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 5: Like it was it was crazy how it happened. 870 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 6: So I got a I was good friends with Doug Gallen, 871 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 6: who created Theourage. 872 00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: Shout Doug Allen. 873 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: He's a great podcast now too, there's Doug. 874 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 5: Doug's a man and so, uh he. 875 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 6: Hit me up by the Blue one day He's like, man, 876 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 6: I got this, I got this scene. I think it'll 877 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 6: really be really be good and it's about a NFL 878 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 6: team coming to LA and you know, I think that 879 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 6: you will be uh really good in this. 880 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 5: So I think I got cool. 881 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 6: You know shit, Doug get will call you and he 882 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 6: said it's sing gonna be good, and it's gonna it's 883 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 6: gonna be good. So literally I drove up like on 884 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 6: a day's notice, from San Diego to LA and Doug 885 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 6: didn't tell me that everybody else at the table sitting 886 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 6: in suits, right, So I come up there and regular clothes. 887 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 6: If he told me like what the scene was and 888 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 6: the whole thing, and I would have, you know, dressed accordingly. 889 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 5: So I got cool whatever. 890 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 6: I got up there, and I didn't know that, like 891 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 6: because we didn't see Jerry Jones everybody also in that episode, 892 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 6: but they were all in that episode as well, and. 893 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 5: I didn't know what it was about. 894 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 6: And the crazy story was outside of me supposed to 895 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 6: being like the franchise player wherever this team God is 896 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 6: gonna be the number one player that they're going to 897 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 6: draft or bring up into this trade to this LA team. 898 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 6: Well LA ended up getting a team like you know 899 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 6: what I'm saying several years later. And so just a coincident, 900 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 6: coincidence of something like that happening was just was just crazy. 901 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 5: And I still get asked about that show to this day. 902 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 5: It's it's like all the time. 903 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Iconic Entourage kind of I feel like they predicted 904 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, The La Team, h Mediant, Narcos, Aquaman, 905 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: there was like ten movies that Vincent Chase had that 906 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: ended up being real, and then the whole La you know, 907 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: Chargers going that was all Inarage. 908 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 6: It gotta go down probably top five, top ten series 909 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 6: of all time. 910 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, paying TV show. 911 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely Well, where do you have the Wire? 912 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 4: Being a Maryland native. 913 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 5: Like two? Like one or two? I think it's up there. 914 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure I have Wire number two? Of course 915 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: you do? You love the Wire? 916 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: All right, Sean, So we we have some trivia for you, 917 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: and you have some questions for us as well. 918 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 4: We're going to see exactly. 919 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 3: How much ball we do or don't know, but we 920 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: got to see how much Music Show doesn't know. So 921 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 3: we got some questions for you. Uh so we're gonna 922 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 3: shoot our first question first. So with the first question, 923 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 3: this Wallet album a d m V native. This Wallet 924 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 3: Album debuted at number one on the Billboard two hundred, 925 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 3: making it the only album of his to hit number 926 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 3: one on the charts. Is it a ambition? B the 927 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 3: album about nothing? See the Gifted or d Back to 928 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 3: the Future Ambition. Nah, see the Gifted. 929 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 4: I would have got this wrong. 930 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: I would have said, b album about nothing, Yeah, I 931 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: would I would have said that one that felt like 932 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: the highest peak and the singles. 933 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Jerry Seinfeld on the cover. Yeah, he did. 934 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 5: The mixtape Ambition was the one with Drey Seinfeld on 935 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 5: the end of the loop. 936 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 2: No, no, no, he had the mixtape about nothing more 937 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 2: about Nothing and then the album Nothing and that was 938 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: all the sign pad stuff. 939 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, Ambition had singles on it. 940 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: I could see that. But I would have got this 941 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 2: wrong too. 942 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have said Ambition. 943 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: All right, it's on you. Did they give you the questions? 944 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 5: Yeah? All right. 945 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 6: So, so rank these quarterbacks in their career touchdowns from 946 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 6: most to least Eli Manning, Philip Rivers or Ben Rothlisberger? 947 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 4: All right, most touchdowns, most to least, most to least, Ben, 948 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 4: Ben Roethlisberger. Who is it, Ben Roethlisberger. 949 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 6: You got Philip Rivers and Eli. 950 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 4: Manning most to lease most touchdowns. Uh, I'm gonna go. 951 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 4: I feel like Phil Philip Rivers might have the most. 952 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna Phillip Eli Ben Roethlisberger. 953 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna still Rory's ants on that. 954 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 6: So you got Philip run Ben Roethlisberger too, and Eli 955 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,479 Speaker 6: Manning at three? 956 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 4: All right, all right, I. 957 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 3: Got you have been in Eli mixed up right, Okay, 958 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 3: But Philip was right though, yeah, Phillips. 959 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: I feel like Ben just always had a running game 960 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 2: where Eli didn't. So I just assumed he had more touchdowns. 961 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 4: But all right, not too bad, No, not too bad. 962 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 4: We got we got one of them, right, all right? 963 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 3: Second question future, want to Grammy for Best Rap Performance 964 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 3: with this song? 965 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 4: A like that? 966 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: B we still don't trust you, C life is good? 967 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: Or D scientists and engineers? 968 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 4: I would get this wrong too, want to Grammy for 969 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 4: Best Rap Performance? 970 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 3: What was the first one like that? And was the 971 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 3: second one we still don't trust you? And then life 972 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 3: is good? And then scientists and engineers. I'm going to 973 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 3: the first one like that? 974 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 4: Nah, it was actually scientists and engineers. 975 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: He just won that one, right, he just not like us, 976 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: cleaned up everything so like that couldn't even get a 977 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 2: couldn't get I feel like like that would have gotten 978 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: a Grammy had not like us exist. 979 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, all right, so you. 980 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 5: Let's go ahead. 981 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 6: The Tennessee Titans quarterback is the only quarterback I have 982 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 6: accepted in my career. Got forties here, all right, So 983 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 6: we got step being there. So it's the only quarterback 984 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 6: I picked off, Okay from the Titans step being there, 985 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 6: Kerry Collins, Vince Young. 986 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: Or Jake Locker. 987 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Vince Young. 988 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 2: Vince Young was spending forty thousand dollars in Applebee's, so 989 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: I know his head wasn't in the game for low. 990 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Vince Young for sure. 991 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 5: Y'all go, you're gonna Evince. 992 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to Vince for sure. 993 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 5: Carry Carry Collins. 994 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: Damn, I would have been my second one. 995 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna go with the least biggest name 996 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 6: on there, probably Jake, But yeah, Carry Collins. 997 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 5: I picked off off. 998 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 4: But how long was Kerry Collins even with the Titans? 999 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 6: Think a couple a couple of years, just enough to 1000 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 6: give you misussion. 1001 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 4: Just enough to make that mistake right, all right? Last question? 1002 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 3: Uh, This song was number one on the Billboard Hot 1003 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 3: one hundred the week you recorded the only interception of 1004 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 3: your career. A justin Timberlake sexy back b Fergie London 1005 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 3: Bridges c. Narls Barkley Crazy or D Neo Sexy Love. 1006 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 3: This song was number one on the billboards. 1007 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 5: Ald Man, it's AOD. 1008 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: I just gotta give me one pick the sexy. 1009 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 5: Let's go D. 1010 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 3: It's actually a justin Timberlake sexy bag record. That record 1011 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 3: was fucking everywhere im as well. 1012 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 5: Yes, AOD, but yeah, yeah, that makes sense record. 1013 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: What's funny is I probably would have went with Fergie 1014 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: London Bridges. 1015 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that that record, Fergie Records over here. 1016 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 4: You got one more for Sean. 1017 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 5: All right, let me go. Uh. 1018 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 6: In two thousand and six, I tied charge tied to 1019 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 6: charge a single season sack record, well, how many sacks? 1020 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 5: One? 1021 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 6: The first one was fourteen, second, fifteen, sixteen or seventeen. 1022 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 6: In two thousand and six, TI to charge of single 1023 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 6: season sack record fifteen. 1024 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say sixteen, seventeen. 1025 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 2: I apologize, man, man, I should have went with the 1026 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: highest numbers. 1027 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 4: I missed that game. 1028 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: I know it was twenty one. 1029 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 5: See look if you said, if you said sixteen, I'm like, 1030 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 5: all right, cool. 1031 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 3: But two sacks, yeah, sixteen alrights over seventeen. 1032 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 4: Those were assisted. 1033 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 5: You know whatever. They assisted sacks I'm gonna go turn 1034 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 5: that to the NFL. Like, nah, man, you said I 1035 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 5: had this whole. 1036 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 4: Sack as you should. Is that a real thing? Is 1037 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 4: that shit that guys do the whole time? Yeah? That's crazy. 1038 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 6: The thing is though, I used to tell my tens 1039 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 6: too when I did, I didn't do it on the side. 1040 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 4: I respect that. 1041 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 6: I said, listen, your finger. My whole hand was on him, 1042 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,919 Speaker 6: your finger only to himself. I'm just you know, turning 1043 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 6: it in. 1044 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: All right before we let you go. 1045 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 3: Favorite linebacker Lawrence Taylor, ray Lewis. 1046 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm out of my game after Lawrence Taylor, 1047 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 6: but I'm going with my brother Ray for life. 1048 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 4: Ray Lewis can't be mad that lt was a monster though, 1049 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 4: and uh, I. 1050 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 2: Mean not a Maryland native, but definitely adopted by the 1051 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 2: state of Maryland. 1052 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, without a doubt, sew We appreciate you again. 1053 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 3: Give us tell us about the. 1054 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 6: Lights Out Yeah yeah, yeah, man, we got a big 1055 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 6: fight in uh in San Diego, Juel fourteenth trained fighting 1056 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 6: twenty four people and get their tickets. 1057 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 5: If you're listening in the Solci. 1058 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 6: Area, make sure you check that out lights outaccept dot com. 1059 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 6: And also make sure I'll download Lights Out Sports TV 1060 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 6: or available on every smart TV I its android, completely free. 1061 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 6: Got a ton of free live sports there and big 1062 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 6: all ultimate fans on show coming out with a game 1063 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 6: day hospitality. Man, we got we got a big tailgate 1064 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 6: show coming up this year. 1065 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 2: What would be the one athlete you want to see 1066 00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 2: in the octagon? 1067 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 5: James Herriston. I already called him out. 1068 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 4: Ship already has been a word since Well, no, of 1069 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 4: course not. 1070 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 6: I mean, but you know, look, I think that as 1071 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 6: y'all y'all reaction tell me everything that why. 1072 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 5: I want to do it. 1073 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 6: I think that I think a lot of people want 1074 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 6: to want to see it, and you know, people tuning 1075 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 6: in we're doing the lights Extreme Fighting. 1076 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be crazy to see that. 1077 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 2: The fact that he quiet though, I mean saying something. 1078 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 4: He might be training. He might he might be in training, 1079 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 4: he might be a. 1080 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 3: Trained lights are Extreme Fighting and Lights Out Sports TV. 1081 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 4: Shaw Merriman a legend. Thank you my brother for joining 1082 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 4: us today. 1083 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 5: Appreciated y'all. 1084 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 4: Thanks having mean love