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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, third hour of Clay and Buck on this Friday.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you all being with us. I remember lines

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Speaker 2: open eight hundred two A two two eight eight two.

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Speaker 2: We are in the twenty eighth day here of the

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Speaker 2: Israel Hamas War, the Israel Hamas conflict, which as we know,

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Speaker 2: began with a mass casualty terror attack.

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Speaker 3: Of unspeakable, unthinkable.

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Speaker 2: Brutality and evil of Hamas committing it against Israeli citizens, civilians, men,

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Speaker 2: women and children. And there's been a lot of talk

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Speaker 2: in the international community, in international corridors, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: about what should be done here, about what the response

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Speaker 2: should be. We've been hearing about ceasefires, and some people

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Speaker 2: have been pointing out, well, you know, there was a

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Speaker 2: ceasefire before Hamas decided to do all this. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Hamas had control of Gaza and was able to direct

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Speaker 2: funds and make decisions for the people.

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Speaker 3: Living in Gaza and Gaza City.

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Speaker 2: And they spend a lot of money, a lot of

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Speaker 2: time preparing a horrific terror attack, and there should be consequences.

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Speaker 2: There must be consequences as a result of it over

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Speaker 2: here in the US, As Clay, I've been talking to

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Speaker 2: you about this. Things have gotten more politically complicated for

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party because what you have, on the one

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Speaker 2: hand is a Democrat old guard led by.

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Speaker 3: Biden talking old You gotta be talking to Biden.

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Speaker 2: But others as well who are saying that effectively, they

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Speaker 2: want Israel to be able to respond, but they want

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Speaker 2: to micro manage from Afar. The response here is, for example,

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Speaker 2: this is a cut four Clay. Here is Senator Dick

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Speaker 2: Durbin who was saying it is time for a humanitarian pause.

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Speaker 3: Play it.

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Speaker 4: What happened on October seventh, the Hamas terrorism against Israel

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Speaker 4: was outrageous and barbaric, no question about it. Fourteen hundred

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Speaker 4: people who lost their lives in the process. Israel has

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Speaker 4: the right to defend itself. It has the right to

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Speaker 4: stop this terrorist activity by Hamas. Now let's get down

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Speaker 4: to the reality of this confrontation. We know that hundreds thousands,

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Speaker 4: if you will, have been killed incent people in the process.

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Speaker 4: It is time for a humanitarian pause. It is time

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Speaker 4: for us to count the injured and bring them forward

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Speaker 4: from floating hospitals and other sources.

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Speaker 5: That can help them.

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Speaker 4: I think this is the moment we should seize.

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Speaker 2: A humanitarian pause. Clayton. What they're now talking about is

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Speaker 2: multiple multiple cease fires over the course of this conflict,

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Speaker 2: before Israel has really even fully begun the ground campaign

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Speaker 2: that will have to wage against Amas in Gaza. And

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Speaker 2: I just I feel like this shows us. On the

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Speaker 2: one hand, you have an enemy that fights with absolutely

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Speaker 2: no restraint whatsoever, and it operates like a death cult.

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Speaker 3: The more death and misery hamask and create, the better.

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Speaker 3: And on the other hand, you have.

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Speaker 2: The Israelis who, after suffering this attack which is absolutely

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Speaker 2: akin to their nine to eleven, the world is telling

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Speaker 2: them how they can respond, how they can fight, what

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Speaker 2: they can do, what the timetable is, what the schedule is,

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Speaker 2: all of this stuff. And on the one hand, it

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Speaker 2: or it shows you know that more clearly than ever.

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Speaker 3: But also there's this only Israel has to do this.

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Speaker 2: Only Israel as a country has to abide by ever

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Speaker 2: changing you know, UEN and international community standards as to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think this is all transparently political now.

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Speaker 6: And this was my concern when there was the initial

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Speaker 6: demand that Israel weight a certain amount of time before

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Speaker 6: in the immediate aftermath when you respond to a tearror attack,

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Speaker 6: most people say, yeah, that makes sense. The longer you wait,

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Speaker 6: the more attenuated it becomes, and the idea that you

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Speaker 6: can what just pause. I mean, they're not gonna stop

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Speaker 6: shooting at Israeli soldiers. They're in Gaza right now, They're

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Speaker 3: Like sitting ducks and just wait.

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Speaker 6: Now Israel has said, hey if Hamas and I can't

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Speaker 6: believe that this is still a major issue. But there's

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Speaker 6: still several hundred hostages, many of them young children and babies,

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Speaker 3: We don't know.

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Speaker 6: We think it's in those tunnels that they have organized

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Speaker 6: underneath all of these different properties all throughout Gaza. The

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Speaker 6: fact that there are still American hostages and that more

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Speaker 6: I mean, buck on some level, it feels like there

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Speaker 6: has been more media attention paid to images of hostages

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Speaker 6: that there are hostages. If you think about the media coverage,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't feel to me like we have gotten blanket coverage.

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Speaker 6: What do we still think there's ten or more American

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Speaker 6: hostages that are being held by Hamas. We haven't gotten

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Speaker 6: the blanket coverage of the hostage situation like occurred. My

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Speaker 6: understanding is when Iran took all of our hostages during

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Speaker 6: Jimmy Carter's administration. And so this whole idea that there

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Speaker 6: should be a proportionate response and that you should wait

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Speaker 6: there should be a cease fire. I think it's all

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Speaker 6: transparently political. And there's a big article up from the

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Speaker 6: Associated Press which ties in with a lot of what

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Speaker 6: we've been saying on this week, and the headline buck

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Speaker 6: is Democrats fear Biden's Israel Hamas war stance could cost

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Speaker 6: him re election in Michigan and listen to this paragraph.

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Speaker 6: Democrats in Michigan have warned the White House that President

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden's handling of the Israel Hamas conflict could cost

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Speaker 6: him enough support within the Arab American community to sway

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Speaker 6: the outcome of the twenty twenty four election in a

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Speaker 6: state he almost certainly can't afford to lose in his

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Speaker 6: bid for reelection. Situation has prompted the White House to

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Speaker 6: discuss ways to alleviate tensions with some of the state's

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Speaker 6: prominent Democrats, including several who've been vocal critics of the

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Speaker 6: President about the war. And then they directly quote one

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Speaker 6: political office in Michigan saying the message has been relayed.

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Speaker 6: We've had calls with the White House, We've had calls

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Speaker 3: We've been clear.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think it's a coincidence, Buck, that we

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Speaker 6: suddenly get the Islamophobia Task Force headed up by Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 6: and that there are now they're trying to third way this.

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Speaker 6: There's demands for Israel to take action against Amos and

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Speaker 6: and basically in them there's demands for a cease fire.

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Speaker 6: And where are Democrats now? They're in favor of a pause,

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Speaker 6: which is some wishy washy middle ground between the two.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. What you're seeing is the political

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Speaker 2: calculations here are pushing what the Biden administration responses or

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Speaker 2: what is in the strategic interests of Israel and its

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Speaker 2: national security right it corroded and this White House are

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Speaker 2: Biden White House is saying Israel has a right to

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Speaker 2: to open humanitarian corridors, they have to be pauses, and

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Speaker 2: have to be all these things. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: we're also concerned about Islamophobia here at home too, because

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Speaker 2: some somehow that's you know, that's a big problem that

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Speaker 2: anti Semitic that they're going to be getting louder. Right, Like,

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Speaker 2: this problem Clay isn't going to go away because the

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Speaker 2: ground campaign. I mean, these Raelis are gonna have to

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Speaker 2: They're going to go in there and they're going to

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Speaker 2: capture or kill a lot of hamaskuays that that hasn't

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Speaker 2: even happened yet, right There've just been some air strikes

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Speaker 2: right now, but Israel is going to be going in

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Speaker 2: there in urban warfare.

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Speaker 3: There will be some civilian casual these as well. That

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Speaker 3: is always regrettable.

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Speaker 2: But what is like, you know what I mean if

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Speaker 2: attention right now in the concerns about Michigan and confiden

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Speaker 2: Win and the Arab American community there are high at

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Speaker 2: this stage. Just wait, I mean, what is this White

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Speaker 2: I mean you're going to have hundreds, if not maybe

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to get justice via the IDF.

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Speaker 6: And also again on this hostage front, what in the

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Speaker 6: world is going to happen here? They're over two hundred

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Speaker 6: of them initially, Remember there were threats Hamas was saying, Oh,

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Speaker 6: we're going to behead them. We're going to behead them

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Speaker 6: on video. They've now been captured for what are we

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Speaker 6: which is crazy to think about. I mean, those hostages

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Speaker 3: Weeks, How does this situation resolve itself?

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Speaker 6: As Israel is circling Gaza City, I believe, correct me

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Speaker 6: if I'm wrong, Buck, they've only recovered one hostage, a

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Speaker 6: woman I believe who was a soldier that they got

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Speaker 6: like these two hundred plus hostages, including ten Americans, as

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Speaker 6: Israel in circles Gaza City, that there's going to be

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Speaker 6: you've talked about the fact that the posters are up.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I've read more about the posters and

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Speaker 6: of the media to remember that these people are still there.

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Speaker 2: It's impossible to play this game that the pro Hamas

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Speaker 2: that the pro Homaas people try to do, which is

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Speaker 2: oh wait, this is a conflict with two sides that

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Speaker 2: both have grievances and both have One side is holding

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Speaker 6: By the way, you're right, and that is probably one

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Speaker 2: It's actually worse than that, because a huge part of

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Speaker 5: So I've been audited every year in New York since I.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's it's the kind of thing that I think

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Speaker 2: It was just, you know, our friend Carol Marcowitz Clay

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Speaker 2: in the fact that there could be political that there

436
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Speaker 2: is political targeting as well. Oh, it's an accident that

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Speaker 2: they united rush like ten.

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Speaker 6: Years in a row in New York, please, or it's

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Speaker 6: an ad like whatever you think about me. There's no

440
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Speaker 6: way that a supervisor didn't google Hey, what does Clay

441
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Speaker 6: Travis do for a living before? If they didn't know already.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I'll put it this way. I don't

443
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Speaker 6: think the irs agent who is doing my audit, I'm

444
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Speaker 6: gonna sit across the table from him and he's gonna say,

445
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Speaker 6: I love the show. I listen to the show every day.

446
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Speaker 6: You are amazing. I bet he's gonna be a died

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Speaker 6: in the wall Biden Democrat voter. And I don't think

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Speaker 6: it's a coincidence that my name gets pulled.

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Speaker 3: For the first time ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like you don't do it, you can be like,

451
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Speaker 2: you get to do the whole Hey, man, what's your

452
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Speaker 2: favorite what's your favorite football team?

453
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Speaker 3: Do you root for? And it's gonna be good to go.

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Speaker 2: You know, if it's me, I'd be like, sir, does

455
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Speaker 2: noise bother you as well?

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Speaker 3: You know I don't have that.

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Speaker 6: I think the guy probably hates me, and I think

458
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Speaker 6: his supervisor probably hates me. And you know why, because

459
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Speaker 6: we're right and they're wrong. But it's definitely designed to

460
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Speaker 6: actually create the message, Hey, we're paying attention, we will

461
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Speaker 6: be difficult. You shouldn't have spoken out like you have

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Speaker 6: shown spoken out. I just I refuse to believe this

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Speaker 1: Past and still lit every day. The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 6: We bring in now my friend and country music superstar

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Speaker 6: John Rich and John We've gotten to know each other

487
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Speaker 6: quite a bit over the last few years. Would you

488
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Speaker 6: have ever believed that the country would get as crazy

489
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Speaker 6: as it is right now and we'd be talking about

490
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Speaker 6: you know, guys winning women's championships and war everywhere. And

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Speaker 6: it just feels like chaos has descended across the nation

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Speaker 6: and frankly around the world.

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Speaker 9: No, I would not have believed we would actually see

494
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Speaker 9: it to this degree. I did, however, believe there were

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Speaker 9: people that intended for these things to happen, but for

496
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Speaker 9: many years they were pretty careful on not not allowing

497
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Speaker 9: us to really see their intentions play out in front

498
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Speaker 9: of our faces, you know, because once, once it plays

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Speaker 9: out where you can see it, there's only nowhere for

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Speaker 9: them to hide. So it's pretty it's pretty shocking to

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Speaker 9: see what's going on. And I don't know about you,

502
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Speaker 9: but it feels like we are in a a momentum

503
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Speaker 9: pattern right now of more and more things, bad things

504
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Speaker 9: coming for this country. It's a it's a very concerning

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Speaker 9: time to be an American right now.

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Speaker 2: John, Do you get the science that's buck and I

507
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Speaker 2: appreciate you being here with us on the show. You

508
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Speaker 2: can get the sense that that creatives, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: whether in you know, obviously country music, but more broadly

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Speaker 2: just the music industry.

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Speaker 3: Are are people starting to recognize.

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Speaker 2: That the shackles they're under because of wokness or political

513
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Speaker 2: correctness or whatever are really contrary to the ethos of

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Speaker 2: creativity and really the those of America and freedom, Like,

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Speaker 2: are you seeing it happening more, are you talking to

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Speaker 2: people behind the scenes or is it still status quo

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Speaker 2: for the most part.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think the artists, the songwriters, you know, the creators,

519
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Speaker 9: we all know what we're looking at. And yet, I mean,

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Speaker 9: the current culture in this country is not conducive to

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Speaker 9: free thought or wide open creativity. Artistic creativity is just not.

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Speaker 9: The problem is most of your artists that are currently

523
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Speaker 9: on the radio, they all have record deals. The record

524
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Speaker 9: labels are run by you know, giant corporations that are

525
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Speaker 9: heavily leftists, and they know that. And if I say

526
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Speaker 9: the wrong thing, I do the wrong interview, I put

527
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Speaker 9: out the wrong song, I'm probably done. You know, I

528
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Speaker 9: might lose my record deal, might not get played on

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Speaker 9: the radio again. And so it's really hard thing to

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Speaker 9: ask those artists to do it anyway, because a lot

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Speaker 9: of them, this is their American dream. They work their

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Speaker 9: asses off to get to that point, to get a

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Speaker 9: record deal and be heard and be on country radio

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Speaker 9: or pop radio or whatever they're on. And now they're

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Speaker 9: looking at turning the whole thing upside down over freedom

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Speaker 9: of speech. For me, I think it came at a

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Speaker 9: good point in my career because I don't need the

538
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Speaker 9: music industry anymore. As a matter of fact, I look

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Speaker 9: at it like this, if the music industry thought well

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Speaker 9: of me, I would not think well of myself. It

541
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Speaker 9: would bother me if they liked me at this point.

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Speaker 9: But I do empathize with a lot of these artists guys,

543
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Speaker 9: because what are they supposed to do. Al Den is

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Speaker 9: big enough that he's able to come out and say

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Speaker 9: what he wants to. You can't cancel Alden. There's a

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Speaker 9: few of us, but not many.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious when you're out and about what kind of

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Speaker 6: response you get from fans, because there's some people out

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Speaker 6: there who say, as you point out, oh man, I

550
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Speaker 6: don't want to really rock the vote. I don't want

551
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Speaker 6: to say exactly what I think. You have come through

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Speaker 6: on the other side, and you just say exactly what

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Speaker 6: you think I actually, in my experience, I think people

554
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Speaker 6: are just looking for all authenticity and as long as

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Speaker 6: you're being honest to yourself. They're fine with that. I'm

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Speaker 6: curious if you found that in your experience with your music.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean when I travel around the country. You

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Speaker 9: know we did uh we did close to forty big

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Speaker 9: and rich shows this year. So you do meet in

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Speaker 9: Greece before all the shows, and you know, you meet

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Speaker 9: everybody before the event, and pretty much across the board,

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Speaker 9: people will come up to me and shake my hand

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Speaker 9: and say, hey, thanks for saying what we would say

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Speaker 9: if we had the microphone, Like you know, John, you've

565
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Speaker 9: got you've got the microphone, you've got a platform. You're

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Speaker 9: saying exactly how we feel about this, and thank you

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Speaker 9: keep doing it, and so that makes you feel great,

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Speaker 9: you know, giving up the music industry. They they blackballed me. Well,

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Speaker 9: I'm black balled into you know, I don't care to

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Speaker 9: work with him either. And so when that happened though

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Speaker 9: a few years ago, I thought, well, that's that's it,

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Speaker 9: no more award shows, no more number one songs, that's

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Speaker 9: over with. I wonder what's going to happen going down

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Speaker 9: the road. And I can tell you what happened, man,

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Speaker 9: is tens of millions of Americans that keep up with

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Speaker 9: what I do now have my back. They feel they

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Speaker 9: feel like I'm one of them because I am, and

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Speaker 9: that we speak the same language. So it's become a

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Speaker 9: much bigger conversation for me out there with the fans

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Speaker 9: than just the music. It's it's very dimensionalized at this

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Speaker 9: point and a great feeling for me to have.

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Speaker 2: We're speaking to country music superstar John Rich and John

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Speaker 2: you know, Clay's in Nashville, so he's he's closer to

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Speaker 2: the world of country music. You know certainly physically that

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Speaker 2: I am as a guy who grew up in New

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Speaker 2: York City. But it would seem to me that if

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Speaker 2: there's any place where pro American values, traditional values, you know, freedom,

588
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Speaker 2: the flag, all that would be totally welcome in that

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Speaker 2: creative space, specifically in the music industry, it would be

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Speaker 2: country music. But you get pressure, you know, if you

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Speaker 2: were if talking about like Top forty or some of

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Speaker 2: the other genres, I would understand to an outsider to me,

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Speaker 2: isn't country music like the safe space for loving America?

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Speaker 2: Or is there really pressure on artists not to be

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Speaker 2: able to express themselves that way?

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Speaker 9: No, it's not a safe face. Listen, man, you're talking

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Speaker 9: about Sony Universal, Warner Brothers. Between those three companies, they

598
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Speaker 9: own eighty percent of all the record labels. So you're

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Speaker 9: not dealing with some good old boy in Nashville, some

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Speaker 9: good old country girl in Nashville. You're dealing with elite,

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Speaker 9: mega corporate you know, Olli Arts basically of these companies,

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Speaker 9: and so that when they put the downward pressure and

603
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Speaker 9: they tell their A and RT departments, their publicists, everybody, Hey,

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Speaker 9: this is how we do it. This is how we

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Speaker 9: don't do it. You know what Clay was saying earlier that,

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Speaker 9: of course that kills artistic expression. You listen, Charlie Daniels,

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Speaker 9: Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, all of our favorites, if they

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Speaker 9: were writing those songs today, in this current current climate,

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Speaker 9: you would never hear any of it. It would never

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Speaker 9: be allowed to get to the public's eiers.

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Speaker 6: We're talking to John Rich. I know, in addition to

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Speaker 6: country music, you are a monster college football fan, and

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Speaker 6: we did some of people have watched this. We were

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Speaker 6: on Big Noon together. I know you're a Longhorn fan

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Speaker 6: for all the Texas listeners out there, but your show

616
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Speaker 6: was on College Game Day on ESPN. For your song

617
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Speaker 6: was on College Game Day, which a very popular pregame

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Speaker 6: show for a long time, and then they took your

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Speaker 6: version off. I'm curious why you think that happened, and

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Speaker 6: a positive story here. Your song is going to be

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Speaker 6: on Big Noon, which is going to air on Fox

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Speaker 6: Sports tomorrow, kind of take people through the background story

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Speaker 6: of how that happened both at ESPN and now at Fox.

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Speaker 9: Well, so coming to your city was the theme for

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Speaker 9: College Game Day on ESPN for fifteen sixteen seasons something

626
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Speaker 9: like that. I mean, basically people had grown up listening

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Speaker 9: to that. That was a Saturday morning tradition for a

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Speaker 9: lot of people. When you hear it coming to your city,

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Speaker 9: you know it's time for college football. Well, for whatever reason,

630
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Speaker 9: ESPN decided, hey, we still want to use this, we

631
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Speaker 9: just don't want you guys to be the one singing

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Speaker 9: it anymore.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that was, by the way, a political

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Speaker 6: decision by them or what do you attribute it to?

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Speaker 6: They had somebody else record the song, right right?

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Speaker 9: I mean it would be me speculating about that, but

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Speaker 9: why else would you do it? Maybe there's another reason.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure that having a guy, especially like me that's

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Speaker 9: as outspoken as I am, as a conservative. There was

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Speaker 9: bound to been somebody in the ranks of ESPN going,

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Speaker 9: you know what, we don't really want to look at

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Speaker 9: his face every Saturday morning. Now, that was never told

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Speaker 9: to me. I can't prove that, but that's kind that's

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Speaker 9: what my assumption is. But it is only an assumption,

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Speaker 9: so I don't really know. In any case, we weren't

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Speaker 9: real happy that we don't get to sing our own

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Speaker 9: song anymore. I mean, we weren't really happy about that.

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Speaker 9: So this opportunity comes along from Fox Sports and they said, hey,

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Speaker 9: we love Big and Rich and Cowboy Troy. You guys

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Speaker 9: want to do something with us, Like, of course, we

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Speaker 9: want to do something. Let's go. We love college football.

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Speaker 9: So we actually took save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy,

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00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 9: which is the biggest song we've ever had. We took

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Speaker 9: that music and wrote an entire special piece of music

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Speaker 9: for Big Noon Kickoff. It's gonna air tomorrow, man, and

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Speaker 9: we are absolutely pumped to have graduated to a major

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Speaker 9: network like that and have our voices heard again.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 6: It'll be on tomorrow from ten to noon Eastern all

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Speaker 6: over the country. They'll be playing your new song on

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Speaker 6: the Fox Sports pre game show.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's rocking, dude. I'm so happy and thank you

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Speaker 9: for you were instrumental man and kind of connecting those wires.

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Speaker 9: And it's been a blast working with everybody. Easy people

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Speaker 9: down there is people. And yeah, tomorrow, my two sons,

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Speaker 9: Cash and Coach the like, we're getting up extra early.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 9: I know it's Saturday, but we're gonna watch. We got

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Speaker 9: to see you on there, man, We got to check

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Speaker 9: it out, so we'll have it cranked at our house.

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Speaker 6: By the way, you also played for Donald Trump at

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Speaker 6: his most recent fundraiser.

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Speaker 3: I saw you there. You came out and played a

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Speaker 3: song for.

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Speaker 6: People who don't know Donald Try Why are you such

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Speaker 6: a big Trump supporter?

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Speaker 3: What has he been like for you?

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00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 9: Because the entire system hates him, and the entire system

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 9: is corrupt, and so you are known by your enemies.

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Speaker 9: And that's what I think, and I think that's what

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Speaker 9: most Americans think. Is Donald Trump a perfect human being?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 9: Is he the perfect role model for everybody? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 9: He's a very flawed individual. But the entire system despises

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump. Republicans hate him, Democrats hate him, Tech hates them,

686
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 9: The media hates them, business hates them, the banks hate him.

687
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Speaker 9: All the systems in our country that keep their boot

688
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Speaker 9: heel on the neck of the American people hate Donald Trump.

689
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Speaker 9: And for me, that's all I need to know that

690
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 9: he's the right guy to step back forward and try

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Speaker 9: to put this thing back into check. Our country is

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Speaker 9: literally catching on fire and it's just getting started. Who's

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Speaker 9: the only one holding the fire extinguisher? Who's the only

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Speaker 9: one that can re versus? Miss? Name somebody other than

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump that you think would have a chance at

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Speaker 9: least of reversing the destruction we see going on in

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Speaker 9: this country. I personally can't name anybody else, and so

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Speaker 9: that's why I support him.

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Speaker 6: John Rich, Country music superstar. Love you man, see us soon.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, guys, Take care.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: In closing up the week, appreciate all of you who

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Speaker 6: the time's going to change and we are going to

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Speaker 6: fall back. And where I live, I don't know what

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Speaker 6: the what the yearly you know, sort of sunlight measure

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Speaker 6: is in Miami. I don't know that it changes as

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Speaker 6: much because the closer to the equator you get, the

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Speaker 6: closer you have to basically.

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Speaker 3: Even day and night I lived.

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Speaker 6: I've said this before in the US Virgin Islands for

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Speaker 6: a couple of years practicing law, and there you're so

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Speaker 6: close to the equator or that there isn't that much

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Speaker 6: variation in time, and so the sunlight doesn't change that

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Speaker 6: much here where I live in Nashville by Joe. By

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Speaker 6: December twenty first, like next month, it's gonna be dark

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Speaker 6: at four thirty. And I absolutely despise the fact that

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Speaker 6: we change the time at all. I wish when we

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Speaker 6: spring forward, we would just stay there forever. Do you

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Speaker 6: have any strong association with the time you lived in

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Speaker 6: New York City? I don't know how.

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Speaker 2: I remember many years in New York City when, especially

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Speaker 2: when I was doing more office job kind of stuff,

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Speaker 2: it was dark every time you wanted to go, dark

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Speaker 2: and cold every time you were a free feel of

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Speaker 2: your office, which is not great. And you know, people

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Speaker 2: get what is it, seasonal disaffective disorder, seasonal effective disorder,

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Speaker 2: effective disorder. Sorry, yeah, I don't. I don't like the

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Speaker 2: changing of the clocks. I would I would be anti

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Speaker 2: daylight saving time. I would just say we just keep

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Speaker 2: the clocks where they are and everyone just deals with

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Speaker 2: it forever, Yes, yeah, for forever. I think this is

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Speaker 2: kind of a silly ritual that we go through.

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Speaker 3: So there's that.

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Speaker 2: It does remind me a little bit of the very

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Speaker 2: good Nate Bargatsy skit from SNL where he's talking about

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Speaker 2: the founding of America. So we could have random weights

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Speaker 2: and measures, yes, which is also a thing that when

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Speaker 2: you really dive in and you go, why exactly do

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Speaker 2: we have all these different confounding weights and measures in

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Speaker 2: this country?

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Speaker 3: But we do things our own way here, Clay freedom.

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Speaker 2: Including the freedom to decide arbitrarily that we have to

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Speaker 2: make our clocks go back and out.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean as crazy by the way that you

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Speaker 6: mentioned the weights and measures and the time change and

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Speaker 6: everything else. You know, in England they still weigh things

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Speaker 6: based on stones, you like, I don't even know. I

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Speaker 6: mean we think that whatever pounds, kilograms, however you want

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Speaker 6: to weigh things. I remember being over in England. Somebody's like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm about thirteen. I'm like thirteen stones, Like I don't

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Speaker 6: even know what a stone is like that. So, as

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Speaker 6: crazy as some of our weights and measures are, at

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Speaker 6: least we're not still doing stones. Although I will say

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Speaker 6: it feels like we're kind of unking on horses when

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Speaker 6: we still talk about how fast cars are based on horsepower.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like, this is two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 6: horse power. Well, yeah, I mean cars a lot more

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Speaker 6: powerful than a horse. But so some of these arbitrary

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Speaker 6: weights and measures are ridiculous. But I think of all

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Speaker 6: of them. The time change. If I were running for president,

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Speaker 6: I would run on the platform of once the time

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Speaker 6: changes again in March, we never change it for the

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Speaker 6: rest of recorded humanity. We have one time forever. And

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Speaker 6: I think most people would approve of that.

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Speaker 5: Think about how.

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Speaker 2: Many people have had some very stressful event, maybe they

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Speaker 2: were laid for a job interview, or they missed a

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Speaker 2: flight or whatever, because they forget about this time change thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's collateral damage, oh totally to daylight savings

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Speaker 2: that never really gets talked about. There there are daylight

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Speaker 2: savings victims out there who deserve their day.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 6: You know what also doesn't happen buck If you have

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Speaker 6: young kids, you don't get an extra hour of sleep.

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Speaker 6: People are like, well, you know when we fall back,

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Speaker 6: you know the clocks you get to get to the

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Speaker 6: extra hour.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't.

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Speaker 6: Kids certainly are not adjusting their wake up time based

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Speaker 6: on arbitrary alterations to the clock time. I heard this

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Speaker 6: all the time. As soon as we had kids. They

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Speaker 6: were still coming in at the same early hours when

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Speaker 6: they were young. So no parent out there is going

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Speaker 6: to get an extra hour, I will say. When I

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Speaker 6: was out and about the only good thing about it

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Speaker 6: was the bars. When you're out in a bar and

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Speaker 6: you fall back and you get an extra hour. If

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Speaker 6: you happen to be out on the Saturday night turning

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Speaker 6: into the Sunday, you get an extra hour of open

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Speaker 6: bar tabs, which can be either good or bad depending

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Speaker 6: on where you live. But that's the only thing I

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Speaker 6: can really remember about the fallback time when I would say, Okay,

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Speaker 6: this is kind of fantastic.

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Speaker 3: But they keep shortening it.

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Speaker 6: Now we're into November, it comes back in earlier in March. Like,

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Speaker 6: just end it once and for all. I think everybody

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Speaker 6: would agree with that in general. By the way, Ali

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Speaker 6: producer Ali says, this just means in New York City

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Speaker 6: you get mugged an hour earlier.

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Speaker 3: So this is not exactly working for the Tourism Board

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Speaker 3: of New York The no no no, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone, have a great weekend, enjoy the time change.

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Speaker 2: If you're inclined to enjoy such things, and we look

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Speaker 2: forward to talking you on Monday.

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Speaker 4: God thinking too,