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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast only deals in mental reps.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room teaming with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosatal. What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Who? Hey? Now

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Speaker 1: I feel alive again. Is anybody live out there? It

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Speaker 1: is uh almost five pm in southern California. The two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen NFL Draft is mercifully over, and the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, which is driven by Hyundai, is here

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Speaker 1: to talk all about it. How exciting, guys. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to our Facebook, live in in Periscope watchers, and of

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Speaker 1: course that everyone listening to the podcast as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I put it. I put who I am more thankful for,

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Speaker 1: But I won't say who's who down. Greg, you're a

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Speaker 1: little punchy, little punchy with the Kendrick Lamar reference in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the show. I'd like to keep that

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Speaker 1: before the show that you were going to follow it up.

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Speaker 1: It's one of Dan's uh best bits of two thousand seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Just yell out. I thought it was down the humble

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Speaker 1: in the middle of any conversation. Yeah, it is a

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Speaker 1: little bit jarring to people, but then then they'll be like, oh, am,

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Speaker 1: I do I need to like pull back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Probably does force them to ask a you know, a

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Speaker 1: primary question. Maybe be more humble person that heard that

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Speaker 1: from Dan. Anyway, So the draft is over seven rounds

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Speaker 1: in the books and NFL rosters, though not complete because

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Speaker 1: now begins the process of all the undrafted players and

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Speaker 1: the free agent signings that come immediately once the draft ends.

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Speaker 1: Phones are ringing like crazy still. But now if you

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Speaker 1: are a follower of an NFL team, you're really Now

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Speaker 1: it's coming into focus what your team will look like

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Speaker 1: when they take the field in September. And we talked

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Speaker 1: about in our last time. It's our fourth show of

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Speaker 1: the week, our own let's calm down a little bit here,

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Speaker 1: what offseason um. Our last show is Thursday night, where

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Speaker 1: we talked all about round one. So this show will

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Speaker 1: focus on the final six rounds and also some kind

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Speaker 1: a Eureka moment of what what this event can be

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Speaker 1: if you really want to test the limits, and it

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Speaker 1: makes sense it logically there was the NFL said that

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Speaker 1: there were two fifty thou people that attended uh this

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Speaker 1: event in downtown Philly, and you're gonna see more events

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Speaker 1: like this Connor or Who's gonna join us later today?

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Speaker 1: It was exciting he boots on the ground for Connor

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Speaker 1: um in Philly. He likened it to the NFL's version

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Speaker 1: of Coachella, and you know, the NFL loves that anything

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Speaker 1: that and they got. It's hard for the NFL to

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Speaker 1: get good press from certain outlets out there, but when

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Speaker 1: you're getting positive reviews for an event, almost universally, the

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Speaker 1: NFL knows they hit on something. So expect this event

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that later, but I will say the

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Speaker 1: energy and Phil you could see it from the first

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Speaker 1: it well delivered? How do you use a little more

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Speaker 1: weather for all the hundreds of thousands of people there,

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Speaker 1: here now, stuck football. That's what we're gonna talk about today.

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Speaker 1: taking themselves out of scam for Sam I like that,

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Speaker 1: to call it completely remove themselves. Now feering into your

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Speaker 1: one said, that's the sick break. It's because Ravens fans

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Speaker 1: feel the Ravens fans in general have enjoyed an incredibly

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Speaker 1: Go Get My Lunch. But a little teaser for how

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Speaker 1: that went. You need play my song said, this was

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Speaker 1: I'm on the fence now, Mark, I like it up here.

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Speaker 1: You neither good, not bad, not going one way or

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Speaker 1: the credit where credit is due. You did an excellent job.

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Speaker 1: Everybody likes to talk quarterbacks, and this was a draft that,

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Speaker 1: um it does seem to happen every other other year

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Speaker 1: out what is the vast difference between Mitchell Trobinsky right

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Speaker 1: trade up seven spots in the second round and take

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Speaker 1: Florida's statetel back Dalvin cook Uh with the forty one

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Speaker 1: overall pick, and Cook is the first running back taking

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Speaker 1: in the top fifty by the Vikes. Uh since Adrian Peterson. Uh,

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Speaker 1: do you think Greg that this was the right move

433
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Speaker 1: for the Vikings. It feels like it was. It was

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Speaker 1: they traded up. I don't love the idea they traded

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Speaker 1: up actually with the Bengals who were in that spot

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Speaker 1: to take Cook. They maybe we're a little worried the

437
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Speaker 1: Bengals were gonna take Cook. I don't love giving up

438
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Speaker 1: extra draft capital for a running back there. I don't

439
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Speaker 1: think he's as sure a thing as you know, let's

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Speaker 1: say mixing, mixing or for net and that's why he

441
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Speaker 1: fell this far. But it's a sign that they knew

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Speaker 1: Latavius Murray was not going to be their guy. They

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Speaker 1: need more than And it's not at the level of mixing,

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Speaker 1: because we haven't heard anything that bad. But Ian rapp

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Speaker 1: Board reported that Cook one of the reasons he fell

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Speaker 1: to the second round as because it was because of

447
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Speaker 1: off the field concerns. So you know, sometimes that's it's

448
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Speaker 1: kind of the annoying part of the draft is that

449
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Speaker 1: this sneaks into whatever round you're talking about, which guys

450
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Speaker 1: are not. It's not just about football, it's about whether

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Speaker 1: this guy is a good human being and whether you

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Speaker 1: want to be in business with this person. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: Cook did put up some red flags to other teams.

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Speaker 1: I just think, and Greg you mentioned there is it's

455
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Speaker 1: a confusing I don't want to call it hypocrisy, but

456
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Speaker 1: there's something very confusing about this. We're going to make

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Speaker 1: player X. We're gonna punish him by not taking him

458
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Speaker 1: in the first round. Is if that's the big enough

459
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Speaker 1: as a statement as we need to make in the

460
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Speaker 1: team as a team, we don't believe in him enough.

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Speaker 1: But then we'll grab him the second or third because

462
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Speaker 1: that tells you that we have some sort of issue

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Speaker 1: with who he is as a person. We'll grab him later,

464
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Speaker 1: but you're still taking him literally, it makes no difference

465
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Speaker 1: to me at all. And the of teams that took

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Speaker 1: a stand here are the teams that says off our

467
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Speaker 1: board immediately. And I guess it's all but four, but

468
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's all but four, And it's all

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Speaker 1: but Ford and didn't take a shot at Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: easy to say that Mixing wasn't on your board. I

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Speaker 1: mean Cook week one Monday Night Football Vikings Saints. Cook

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Speaker 1: starting for the Vikings possibly Peterson starting for the Saints,

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Speaker 1: cooking with gas. Cook's a better fit for Pat Scharmer's

474
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Speaker 1: offense in Peterson Ortavius Murray. Right, Murray, it seemed like

475
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Speaker 1: an odd signing, didn't pay him a lot, but a

476
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Speaker 1: guy that's not very good on passing downs in that offense,

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Speaker 1: and now I think he'll will ultimately kind of be

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Speaker 1: the one v in that backfield. UM and other running

479
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Speaker 1: back news. You know, the Saints speaking of Adrian Peterson

480
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Speaker 1: just made a move, uh, bringing in the legendary Vikings

481
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Speaker 1: running back, and they're not done because they going to

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Speaker 1: make a move in the third round, Uh, drafting Tennessee

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Speaker 1: running back Alvin Help me somebody, Camara Camara? Uh? To me,

484
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Speaker 1: that one is that one jumps out a little bit

485
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Speaker 1: to me, like they seem to be set in the

486
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Speaker 1: backfield after getting Peterson, but they decided they wanted to

487
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Speaker 1: get somebody else back there. West makes sense of it

488
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: to me, it's hard to I know they wanted up

489
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Speaker 1: passing down back Traveris Cadet as a fringe roster player.

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Speaker 1: He's not somebody you want to lean on as your

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Speaker 1: primary pass catching back. I get that, but uh and

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Speaker 1: Rhodo Pat Pat Doherty from Rhodo World had a really

493
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Speaker 1: good quote on this. Yesterday they talk all the Malcolm

494
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Speaker 1: Butler talk was about we need the Brandon Cook's trade

495
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Speaker 1: to we need we need to get our defense better

496
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Speaker 1: after being embarrassing for a few years. Then you go

497
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Speaker 1: and trade next year's second round pick for a scatback

498
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Speaker 1: who's gonna play limited snaps behind Mark Ingram and Adrian Peterson.

499
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Speaker 1: I don't like I've I've lost the point where I

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Speaker 1: trust Sean Payton as a team builder. Or how about

501
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Speaker 1: Nicky Loomis, who's in a complete flurry dealing with the

502
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Speaker 1: New Orleans Pelicans while you're in the middle of the

503
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. How about your priority straight Pelicans didn't do

504
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Speaker 1: too well, so he has he has some free time

505
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Speaker 1: right now. Maybe they're getting ready for the NBA Draft.

506
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Speaker 1: I don't wait. I do love that Mark brings this

507
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Speaker 1: up literally league. It is very annoying to me there.

508
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Speaker 1: What is the crossover between running an NFL team and

509
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Speaker 1: an NBA team in two thousand and seventeen, how about folks,

510
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Speaker 1: You're you're proving that if you you're you alone, are

511
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Speaker 1: not doing a good job with the Saints get someone

512
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Speaker 1: in the that's devoted to the football team primarily alone.

513
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people believe Sean Payton is

514
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Speaker 1: essentially their shadow GM and he's calling the shots. And

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Speaker 1: I agree with you West, he has burned any trust

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Speaker 1: in terms of building teams. He does know how to

517
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Speaker 1: take offensive pieces and create some offense, and so and

518
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: then Offen left one team long term. I've been criticizing

519
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: them for not thinking long term and trading a second

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Speaker 1: round pick next year for a third down back is

521
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Speaker 1: not thinking long term. With that said, mark Ingram maybe

522
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Speaker 1: is not gonna be on that team that long. Adrian

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Speaker 1: Peterson is not gonna be on that team that long.

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Speaker 1: Kamara is a guy who they see. They always play

525
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Speaker 1: multiple backs, three backs. He's gonna be on the field

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Speaker 1: quite a bit and people love him and my back

527
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Speaker 1: had him ranked overall. So don't you think every offensive

528
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Speaker 1: coach would love to have all kinds of new toys

529
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Speaker 1: to play with, But they have a modicum of self

530
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Speaker 1: discipline and the answer to general managers and presidents who say, no,

531
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Speaker 1: we have to build a team, not give you a

532
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: new toy to use three snaps a game, say that

533
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: is totally fair and Saints fans don't like it. But

534
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: the Saints didn't get what they wanted in this draft.

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00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: I mean, Ruben wrote Ruben Foster came out and said

536
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Speaker 1: he was on the phone with the Saints when the

537
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Speaker 1: forty Niners called up because they traded ahead to take him.

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Speaker 1: I think the Saints wanted to take uh Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 1: in the first time, so they didn't get what they wanted.

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Speaker 1: That said, this is the most loaded Saints offense they've

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Speaker 1: had since two thousand eleven, maybe two thousand nine. It

542
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: could really be special there. Probably it probably won't be

543
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Speaker 1: enough to win playoff games, but I do think it's

544
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Speaker 1: better than it's been and they could maybe get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Score thirty five points a game. It is

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Speaker 1: a game because the defense regularly gives up about forty

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Speaker 1: two seven and nine, seven and nine. I mean, I

548
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: don't buy that it's one of their best offenses. You've

549
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Speaker 1: still got Kobe Fleaner as a big part of it,

550
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: and you lost Brandon Cook's. Your wide receiver corps isn't

551
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: as good as it was last year. UM A real

552
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Speaker 1: quick update on United Kingdom slang slash lexicon Mark Summer's

553
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Speaker 1: NFL are one of our listeners, RGI bargie is completely

554
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Speaker 1: a current term. This is breaking this, let's break. Mark

555
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: Summers at Mark Summer's NFL tells us RGI bargie absolutely

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Speaker 1: a current term, and it is essentially when you would

557
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Speaker 1: shove someone at a bar, you know, a scuffle, woul break.

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Speaker 1: It's an rg Yeah. I was so much so I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go into I think that works. Use that correctly. Perhaps.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations by the way to Sashi. I just want to say,

561
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Speaker 1: despite my mistakes, for one about a potential background you know,

562
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: backfire scenario with Kaiser, that nice job of the Browns.

563
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Speaker 1: Very smooth, happy, very smooth guy too. When you say Sashi, yeah,

564
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: streams like Billy d Williams. Smooth. That's the way I

565
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: look at it. Nobody said smooth. Well he's in that world. Um,

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Speaker 1: the big, big draft in Philadelphia, as we were talking

567
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: about at the top of the show, I want to

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Speaker 1: get you guys in touch with the people, Uh what

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Speaker 1: kind of element we're dealing with the people of Philadelphia.

570
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: And to do that, we're gonna throw it to um

571
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: some uh footage archive footage now of Colleen Wolf who

572
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Speaker 1: was on the ground in Philly interviewing a man. Uh that, Um, well,

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Speaker 1: let I'll let him explain his decision. Uh. We actually said,

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Speaker 1: does this is the clips set up itself? Or do

575
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Speaker 1: I have to set it up? Let's see, all right,

576
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: John just got married, and um, where's your wife? She

577
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: is on a flight back from our honeymoon. So you

578
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: left your honeymoon to come back to the draft in Philly?

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Speaker 1: Of course why not? How did that conversation go? She

580
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: knows how much I love the birds, So I mean

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Speaker 1: it was in the conversation it was I'm going home

582
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Speaker 1: for the draft and you can have fun on the

583
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Speaker 1: beach I called days in Florida. You can find that

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Speaker 1: guy right now at Patty's Pub somewhere in Philadelphia. He'll

585
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: be there until two three in the morning. You can

586
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Speaker 1: find you know, his wife, maybe entertaining lawyer. But it

587
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Speaker 1: also there's some objective I don't I don't profess to know, John,

588
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Speaker 1: but I will say, and West one day you'll learn

589
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: this as well. And you're very headstrong man, uh, in

590
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Speaker 1: all aspects of life. But once the ring goes on,

591
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: once the ceremony happens, I'm not saying you become you know,

592
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Speaker 1: some type of cuck and you don't have any power

593
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: in relationship, but the compromise issues that becomes stronger the

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Speaker 1: partnership aspect of it. And this idea of him just saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving the honeymoon. Whether you want me to leave

596
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Speaker 1: or not, you can get away with it now. You're

597
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get away with that in

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Speaker 1: five years a grand It does the heart good to

599
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Speaker 1: know that there's someone for everyone, as this guy proved.

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Speaker 1: Before we move on, the Patriots only had four picks

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Speaker 1: in this aft, by the way, and it was greg

602
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: no offense. But it was a little refreshing that the

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00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: last three days were about every other team in the

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Speaker 1: league except for the Patriots. Uh. And it cosmically makes

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00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: sense too. It is the Patriots world. We all understand.

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00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: By the fall it will be once more. But just

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00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: in this moment of optimism and hope, New England could

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Speaker 1: sit out around. But of course that didn't stop Twitter,

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Speaker 1: the Twitter verse, the football got nascenti from lauding everything

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Speaker 1: they did. Uh. Let's listen to one of the picks

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Speaker 1: and the reaction immediately thereafter. With the third pick in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and seventeen NFL drive point, The England

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Speaker 1: Patriots run a dead woman's abandoned wheelchair bills the genius

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Speaker 1: Do you have any more picks? We do, in fact,

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Speaker 1: with the eighty five pick in the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: sevent NFL off, do New England Patriots select a discarded

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Speaker 1: container that once held an eighth of medical marijuana JNS?

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Speaker 1: Stuff about is that Bill Simmons? Was that their entire draft? Uh?

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Speaker 1: They had four picks just so you know, a little

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Speaker 1: house gave me their some coming up later. They spread

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Speaker 1: these Derek Rivers and Diedrich Weiss to defense eve Vents,

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Speaker 1: and then they went and got Antonio Garcia and Connor McDermott,

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Speaker 1: two tackles. People really did like the Rivers pick Youngstown

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Speaker 1: State Troy. But well we're talking, you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna throw the Patriots out there, they had a very

626
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: interesting draft. I mean, if you think about how they

627
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Speaker 1: use their picks. They used their picks to get Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: It was essentially Brandon Cooks for Ryan Ramcheck. Was that

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Speaker 1: trade for the number thirty two overall picks. So they

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Speaker 1: got Brandon Cooks, They got Dwayne Allen, they got Mike Gillis. Lei,

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Speaker 1: and who am I forgetting? They got Cony eally, so

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Speaker 1: they got guys with these draft picks that are more

633
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Speaker 1: likely to contribute this season, maybe not long term, but

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Speaker 1: to make an instant impact on a roster that's gonna

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00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: be tough to make for some Rockies. Andy kind of

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00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: squashed your point in a little bit. I think, listen,

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Speaker 1: I told you, I'm not saying the Patriots didn't have

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00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: a great offseason or they're not gonna go fourteen and

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00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: two or better next year, but right now it's not

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Speaker 1: their time. And I like that. You know a lot.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's kind on board of that, and even the Patriots

642
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: on some level, very low key, uh last few days

643
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: upon until Greg named him one of his winners and

644
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: his winners and losers, which he had it was actually

645
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: breaking on a mobile or at some beetweet the team.

646
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Greg Greg listed the Patriots as one of the big

647
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: winners of the two thousand seventeen NFL Draft, according to

648
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: us throughout the draft process. All right, the process, I get.

649
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: I think they could have worded it a little better.

650
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: That's all um. Well that's Antonio Garcia tackle from Troy

651
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: watch out all right right now, it's time. We promised

652
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: it and we will deliver. It's time to go five

653
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: minutes in the Ravens nest. How many podcast listeners are

654
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: just pressing fast forward, don't do it. This is gonna

655
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: be good. It's like the hockey segment of a highlight show. Listen,

656
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: we were promising that the uh we're promising I got

657
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: your NFL NHL reference. I like to us, um, we're

658
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: promising five minutes to the Ravens. We're not gonna say

659
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in praise with Ravens because I'll start

660
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: and say that I don't know what the Ravens are

661
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: doing with the draft class research. I'm being honest. It's

662
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: just a publicly sculp him. I just want to be

663
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: honest with you, Like, what is the most underwhelming aspect

664
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: of that team right now? The secondary was going into

665
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: the season. They've proved it pretty drama. You would say

666
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver potential. To say, their offense in general, they

667
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: had they had a top ten defense last year, but

668
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: they they're lacking playmakers. They've lost a host of players

669
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: including Steve Smith, two offensive lineman, and you don't want

670
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: to ever doubt Ozzy k Newsom of course, but what

671
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: do they do the first two days of the draft.

672
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: They take zero offensive players. They stick on the defensive

673
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and then uh, doing a little

674
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: more research the rest of the draft. They finally take

675
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: a couple of guards in round four and five, and

676
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: that's good. You want to fortify that line for Flacco

677
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: who's getting older now. Uh. And then they take a

678
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: dB in round six, no picking round seven, so they

679
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: don't take any skill players on offense. And let's be honest,

680
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: how how if you're a Ravens fan and you lost

681
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: that on Brandon Marshall, you lost out? Uh. There was

682
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: another player that they were hot on, a veteran, and

683
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: free agency didn't They didn't get anyone to bring Tory

684
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Smith back. Pierre Garson they were hot for they didn't

685
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: get him. So now you're going into the spring without

686
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: any big playmakers and then your draft without any big

687
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: scores and and and free agency. How they scoring within

688
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: twenty points a game? I think that's a fair criticism.

689
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: They're running back position and their tight end position are underwhelming.

690
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: They have players there, but they don't have plus exciting

691
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: players with that. They had a lot of holes on defense.

692
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: They know they had good numbers last year, but they

693
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: lost people, and it doesn't surprise me that they needed

694
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: to fill some of those rules. People like Tius Bowser

695
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: a lot. Who is their second round pick, Chris Wormsley,

696
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: people thought was a good uh value in the third round.

697
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about azzy Nie Newsom though. And the

698
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: Alabama thing, It's like every time he's on the clock,

699
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: everyone knows he's just gonna take the best Alabama player available.

700
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: He took Marlon Humphrey in the first round at cornerback.

701
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: They have really improved their secondary this offseason. I think

702
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: it's gone from ugly too. It looks pretty good on paper.

703
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: Wetll and Tony Jefferson, and they've got some numbers at cornerback.

704
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: And then they take another Alabama guy, Tim Williams in

705
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: the third round. Well, they were already one of the

706
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: best defenses in football last year. For stretches of the season,

707
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: they were the most impressive defense. I saw. Dan's right.

708
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: They ignored what what their off season tells us is

709
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: they are counting on Breshad Perriman to become what they

710
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: thought he was when they drafted him in the first

711
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: round two years ago. Or three years ago, however long

712
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: it was, he has been injured and unproductive and unreliable.

713
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: They need him to emerge as a true number one

714
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: receiver if this offense is gonna do anything next year.

715
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: That's what John Harbaugh said when he was asked about this,

716
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: that we feel we've addressed wide receiver in previous drafts,

717
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen the production from those players, and

718
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: so you are you're hoping on that there was another

719
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: else they will, maybe it'll be Ankoan Bolden, because they

720
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: need they need one more. They absolutely if you look

721
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: at their their wide receiver lineup, it's just completely the

722
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: opposite of formidable. There there was stuff coming out of

723
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: Baltimore where they their goal is to build, not that

724
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: any team wouldn't want this, but to to focus on

725
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: this a Dallas Cowboys like offensive line. That's that was

726
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: their number one kind of pursuit. But then you wait

727
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: as long as you do to take lineman in a

728
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: class that does not have a particularly strong group alignment.

729
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: So you're waiting to do that, You're waiting to add

730
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: the wide receiver talent. The running backs worked to some

731
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: degree last year, but you could have gone and gotten

732
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: a completely different type of identity changing back for your offense.

733
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: You didn't do that where they stopped running the all

734
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: because they didn't trust their offensive line to open holes.

735
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: And they did pick up a couple of interesting guards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Here were the big additions, by the way

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00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: in their offense. Uh this offseason so far. Running back

738
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead good pick up. Good pickup basically just replaces

739
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: Kyle you check as the third down back. Okay, but

740
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: durability issues he's getting old. And backup quarterback Ryan Mallett

741
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 1: the only two offensive editions so far, and they don't

742
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: take him back anybody else other than a lineman in

743
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: the draft. So that I could give you a final

744
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: ten fifteen seconds on the rave, give it to us.

745
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: Your origin is one of thievery, your team out of Cleveland,

746
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: and now you're asking for good things. You've been given

747
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: two super Bowls. That's more than enough. If it is

748
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: time for you to suffer, it may be time for

749
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: that to happen for a long period of time. How

750
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: about you flip fortunes with someone else in the division,

751
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: the team whose heart you ripped out of the city

752
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: these this is a fair closing argument by you. I

753
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: am tired of this organization. Succeed Ravens fans, be careful

754
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: what you wish for you. By the way, fourth round,

755
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: pick Nico Saragosa. Last note, of course, there's a famous

756
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: Saragosa in Ravens history. No relation. Buzzer. Let's exit the

757
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: Ravens nest. That was fun. Give me a car. I'm

758
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: glad to get out of there. We did it. I thought,

759
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: I try to be respectful about it. Mark, you took

760
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: it in a different direction, but I understand. Have they

761
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: been respectful of my life? Who's they? I mean, art

762
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: model rest in peace? I mean he wasn't respectful. But

763
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: now the current regime. How about the twenty three year

764
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: old Ravens fan we met in a bar during the

765
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs who had no idea that they were the

766
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: Browns previously? I was once. I was once in an

767
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: airport with as he stopped several strangers on the way

768
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: to the gate to ask how they felt about the

769
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: Ravens stealing his clean that decades later, Well, you know,

770
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: some you can't just ignore history because it happened before

771
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: you were a child or an adult. In middle aged

772
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: lady had a really strong opinion on it that that

773
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: checks out, because I believe late later that day it

774
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: was really a banner plane ride for Mark Sessler to

775
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: the West coast. Oh I'm alone on that one. Okay.

776
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: We you know, we struggle to get shadowy league figures

777
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: to pay attention to our show. Um, sometimes they pay attention.

778
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: They paid attention after that flight that you guys took. Well, yeah,

779
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: we got called to the carpet. Good to bring that

780
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: back up. All right, So before we head towards checking

781
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and got lunch and getting Connor on the horn. Uh,

782
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: how about some final kind of takeaways, um, either from

783
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: the last six rounds or from the draft overall. We'll

784
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: start with you, Greg Rosenthal. We'll see I stepped on

785
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: my my Patriots bit here. Let's start with someone else

786
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, Chris Westling. I would say the draft

787
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: for me was an extension of the idea I already

788
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: had that I liked what the Colts, Panthers, and Buccaneers

789
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: were doing with their off seasons. The Panthers. The Panthers

790
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: picked up some defensive additions in free agency. They look

791
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: strong on that side of the ball, and then they

792
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: go get what they needed on offense, speed and playmaking ability,

793
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: and they've bolsted the offensive line too. But I really

794
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: like the Christian McCaffrey UH and Samuel Joseph picks to

795
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: to get that speed and playmaking ability. They desperately needed

796
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: the Colts defense that had to be fixed, and they

797
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: have put so many resources into it this year. The

798
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: first three picks are defense, and then they get Marlon

799
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Mack who looks like he has a chance to be

800
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks was calling him this year's Jordan Howard um

801
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: but being at it to pass him. And then the Buccaneers,

802
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, I love the Sean Jackson pick up. They

803
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: get O. J. Howard, the best tight end of the draft,

804
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: maybe the best tight end and in the last few drafts. Uh.

805
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: And then they get the receiver out of pen with

806
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: the third round pick, who can already compete for playing

807
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: time in the slot and maybe he becomes an outside

808
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: receiver down the line. But I really like what those

809
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: three teams have done to be colm kind of borderline

810
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: playoff teams too, maybe propelling themselves into the postseason. And

811
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: and to throw another name just sort of in that

812
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: rising team mix. I think the Titans, who you mentioned

813
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: on Thursday night also did the same in terms of

814
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: adding playmakers. It was like, Okay, we've got our meat

815
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: and potatoes team. Now let's get some guys who can

816
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: make big plays. And Jamis Winston and Marcus Mariotta, who

817
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: have already proven I think that their solid NFL starters

818
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: have to be loving this offseason. Godwin who you mentioned?

819
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Who the who? The Bucks draft in the third round.

820
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: One of Matt Harmon's very favorites thought he was the

821
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: most underrated player receiver in this whole draft according to

822
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: reception perception. And you start thinking about how many different

823
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: options UH the that Jamis Winston has to throw to.

824
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: Now it's overwhelming. And the Titans also followed up their

825
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: first round wide receiver pick with another UH pass catcher

826
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: in the third round. And so these are guys who

827
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: who I think are gonna play and Taylor is a

828
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: big playmaker who are gonna play right away. I think

829
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: they changed how their offenses are gonna look in the draft.

830
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: I watched some Ri Davis tape and I can't believe

831
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: if they're watching the tape that he was not far

832
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: and away the consensus number one wide receiver in this class.

833
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: And you're talking about teams that found their quarterbacks, and

834
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: it's it's not that it's easier to build a team

835
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: just because you have a quarterback, but it really is.

836
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Anyway you have that that major piece in place, and

837
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: you can start to build strength on strength around him.

838
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: And my point would be, I know we hit on

839
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: this the other night a little bit, but when you

840
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: did your pain rankings, for instance, Dan, I think it's

841
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: back then it's fair to have ignored someone like the

842
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears and that fan base because they've been in

843
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: the mix here and there. They want a super Bowl

844
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: that we can remember one of the more famous teams

845
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: of all time, the Bears. Three decades have passed now

846
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: plus where they have done nothing, come nowhere close to

847
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: getting back to that level of glory. The team building

848
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: scenario in Chicago is the absolute opposite from what we

849
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: can see of what you guys have mentioned. You had

850
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback was not a great one, but you

851
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't parlay that into another one. You simply have no quarterback.

852
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: Now you've got nothing. You reached massively for a quarterback

853
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: in Mitchell Trobisky. That really doesn't seem to be any

854
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 1: different than guys that were picked six seven slots later

855
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: in that position. Bears fans, to me, I think have

856
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: been underrated for the pain they've gone through, and I

857
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: think the level of hopelessness starts with ownership. There is

858
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: this is not a plugged in franchise that cares about

859
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: turning the Bears around. They I think they're coasting right

860
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: now on the fact that the Cubs, for instance, have succeeded.

861
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: They have put forward a completely confusing offseason. I don't

862
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: think you can look at the head coach and say

863
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: this is the guy that other fanchise had brought in

864
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: to turn around. He gets you to a certain point.

865
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: He's not even gotten them to that certain point. I

866
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: don't this. This has been a weekend of absolute despair, confusion,

867
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: and dis unrest for the Bears fan base. We have

868
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: them in our office. They I've never seen that, they

869
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: have never seen them at this level because I think

870
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: it finally came to a head. Nothing makes sense in

871
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: Chicago right now. Their strategy is absolutely uh up for

872
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: the Bay or you could absolutely criticize them for the

873
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: way they've they've went about things. I think even the

874
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: three of their draft picks, we're not highly recruited players

875
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: in the back end of the draft, even beyond the

876
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: Trubisky move. But in terms of like taking ownership to

877
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: task for not trying and all that, I mean they're trying.

878
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: They've identified Robinsky as a starter. And I'm gonna again

879
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: read it what I said Thursday. Let's see, let's see

880
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: if you can put it would be nice to write

881
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: them off. Bears fans have written them off. I mean

882
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: they put him on. Who cares that they put them on,

883
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: But they put him on the jumbo tron at the

884
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Bulls game while the Celtics are drilling them the other night,

885
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: and they boo the poor kid. This is what they

886
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: do with their new quarterback. They boot Mike Glennon at

887
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: a Cubs game. They boot Strabisky. I mean, give the point.

888
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: Don't trust leaders. They do not trust the number two

889
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: pick of the draft already. But I agree with you.

890
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: You're right, And when we get around I have a

891
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: I have a second takeaway to address what you just said,

892
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: which I do agree with what you said on some level. Okay,

893
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: because Lennon got food at Wrigley Field a few weeks ago,

894
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I think Bears fans are

895
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: just they're frustrated because and you know, I'm not gonna

896
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: go crazy feeling bad sorry for Bears fans, Like as

897
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: a Jet fan who has never seen a Super Bowl yet,

898
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: they at least got the Super Bowl about ten years

899
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: ago and they and their dads and brothers got to

900
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: enjoy eighty five. But it has been pretty barren. I

901
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: get that. I understand. Let's see Rex Grossman as they're starting.

902
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they were just basically fodder to be destroyed

903
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: in that game. Please, we know that is one of

904
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: the most feudal actions that human being can engage in.

905
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: By the way, is there any relation between Chris Wesling

906
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: and Mitch Drobiski? A lot of people are pointing this out,

907
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: and I see the physical resemblance. He does look like

908
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: I looked at at about age nineteen or twenty. Does

909
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: it make you like him a little bit more? Not? Really?

910
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: Does that speak to just your feelings about it? You

911
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: don't care how quarterbacks look or football players like either

912
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: you could play or you can't. But I don't care

913
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: if it's actually you. I mean that would have I

914
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: would have to put myself outside. Yeah, you gotta be

915
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: kidding me. I mean if there was a quarterback that

916
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: looked like me, I'd be I mean, I almost bought

917
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: us stage rosen Fells. You know, Jersey, you get a

918
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: little jew out there playing carterback. Forget it. I'm the

919
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: biggest fan of him in the league. I mean, you

920
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: don't think Marcus Grant is really carrying the torch for

921
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: Gino Smith? Do You? Probably not? And that's why I'm

922
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Jimmy Garoppolo because obviously are

923
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: very similar looking. Uh Frank o' harris looks like Scheck

924
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: to that, Yes, well down with that. I don't totally

925
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: agree with Oh, I think they look a lot of

926
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it. But I just want to share

927
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: a quick takeaway about the Giants since I did address

928
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: this a little bit on Thursday that I I thought

929
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: that ELI had a had a nice Thursday night when

930
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: they didn't take a quarterback. But then the Giants did

931
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: take a quarterback in round three, Davis Webb, And you know,

932
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: it could just be a guy that sits forever and

933
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: ever we might or maybe he's not. That third round

934
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: is pretty good real estate for a quarterback. But then

935
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: what got me got on my radar about the Giants

936
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: is that we we know that they have the skill players,

937
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: but if you really want to take care of your

938
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: aging quarterback, addressed that offensive line and they don't take

939
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: a single lineman into the last pick. They got business

940
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: watt they got they got Adam business Watti at overall

941
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: a fan of business and I don't know if that

942
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: this this guy could play this Adams no Watt, but

943
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: address it a little higher up, maybe the position even

944
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: if Eli is not gonna have time to throw. You know,

945
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: you could get on them all you want, but they

946
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: don't have the protection. It doesn't matter how many weapons

947
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: you have. I don't like what the Giants did there

948
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: Floyd Reese, uh, I mean Jerry Reefe rather uh doubling

949
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: down on Eric Flowers, who was his number nine overall

950
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: pick and has really hurt that franchise and will continue

951
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: to because they're really showing faith but keeping him as

952
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: a left tackle. Whereas the Bills, who I think have

953
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: a I thought might take a quarterback early, they didn't

954
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: take one until I think it was the fifth round

955
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: with with Peterman. But they did try to help out

956
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, not just with a receiver, which they desperately needed,

957
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: but with a couple of offensive lineman. So even though

958
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: they're saying Tyrode Taylor has to earn the starting job,

959
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: I think he had a better weekend than Eli Manning

960
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: because they got him some help. Another takeaway, I like

961
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: the Drew Pearson speaking about the Philadelphia Dynamic on Friday night,

962
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: took on seventy thousand drunk Philadelphians. He did a good job.

963
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: Let's listen in on that. My time world champion Dallas Cowboys, Jones,

964
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: Joe Jason, the cowboy word before me play with right,

965
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: what's your second break? In a second round? The Gallas

966
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys one from Colorado should do let's I mean he's

967
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: he is lucky. He was not. He was up there

968
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: for a while, not taken out by an assassin's bullet.

969
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: I mean that was a rout the city crowd. I

970
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: mean he started it. He started it by saying thank

971
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: you for my great career or whatever. That was the

972
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: ultimate troll movements there. It was awesome he did. He

973
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: did a nice job with it. Um. By the way, guys,

974
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: I have a takeaway. How about the Arizona Cardinals. I

975
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: think I don't know if they wanted a quarterback or not.

976
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: But I've been in on this. They're kind of all

977
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: in on this one last chance, and I don't think

978
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: there's I think there's a chance they could make a

979
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: playoff run still, and I think they ended up having

980
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: a great draft early taking positions. Hassan Reddick felt there

981
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: was nine skill position players taken in the top twelve,

982
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: so they really got their pick of the litter at

983
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: defense and that's a position they needed at linebacker after

984
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: losing one in free agency. Then you get a safety

985
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker who kind of replaces Tony Jefferson. So they

986
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of got win now type of players. And I

987
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: think that's good because they've been a franchise who has

988
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: taken these projects early in drafting. They can't deal with

989
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: projects right now. Fitzgerald's gonna retire, Palmer's gonna retire. Who

990
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: knows about arians? Like get some players to win now?

991
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh that is true, and they could still be undone

992
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: by their offensive line. Yeah. Uh were doubling back to

993
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: Cincinnati real quick, John Ross. They took mix in and

994
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: they have effectively now uh fixed that offense for Andy

995
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Dalton and giving give him a shot. I don't know

996
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: if Cincinnatid. Their window might close when he broke his thumb,

997
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: but I thought they had a nice draft. Another team

998
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: could be completely undone by the offensive fine which was

999
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: bad last year and got worse with the exodus and

1000
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: free agency of of several key players. Took one lineman

1001
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: in the draft, fifth round, J J. Dealman. It was

1002
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: a terrible draft for lineman. Everyone told us, and teams

1003
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: actually listened to that. They didn't really move up and

1004
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: take guys. They they they thought it was a terrible

1005
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: draft for Lineman, they didn't take him. I have a takeaway,

1006
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: and it's about how the draft is covered in general.

1007
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: And if I had one wish, if I were ever

1008
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: still doing this twenty years from now, I would like

1009
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: to see the coverage of the draft completely evolved and change,

1010
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: because it is utterly absurd. And even what I just

1011
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: said about Bears and Mitchell Drobiski and what everyone has

1012
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: said about Mitchell Chrobinski and all these people that we

1013
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: literally have no idea how these guys are gonna work

1014
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: out as pros. We don't that we rush into all

1015
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: this clickbait column action where it's winners losers. This guy

1016
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: is gonna show and like drastic production in year one.

1017
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: It's utter wind and we aren't able to say we

1018
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: can we can't you say this thing, sit down, be humble.

1019
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: How about take a step back and don't put these

1020
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: articles in this kind of over exacerbated nonsense out there

1021
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: when we'd have no idea. You look at drafts from

1022
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: three years ago, it is unbelievable how many on Pro

1023
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: Football Reference, how many players are no longer bold because

1024
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: they're not even in the league. Writers around the country,

1025
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: you can all do your small part by refusing to

1026
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: write your editor's draft grades article. It's I think it's

1027
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: in me back in the nine eighties when you're a kid,

1028
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: you kind of fall for that. It does it. I

1029
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: totally can move beyond it. I totally agree with the draft.

1030
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: And yet it's a slippery slope because if you really

1031
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: look at what we do in general, that's our that's

1032
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: that's our lots, that's our jobs in general. Like when

1033
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: we talk on Sundays and we project forward like we're

1034
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: doing that based on stuff, but we don't know and

1035
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: most of it's wrong. Right. You know what the difference

1036
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: is is that now fans and anyone who was interested

1037
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: can watch tape of these college players, just like analysts

1038
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: could back they alone had that that that right in

1039
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. Everyone has it now, and so

1040
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: why does this one group of people decide whether it's

1041
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: an A, B, C or D. I'm just saying there's

1042
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: a lot you can do in our profession to be valuable.

1043
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening with post draft grades that

1044
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: happened on Sunday night and Monday morning after the thing wraps.

1045
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: But the last fifty four minutes of our podcast we

1046
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: made I know, but I'd find attention in it because

1047
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way when we talk about games

1048
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: we just saw in week two where people you're doing

1049
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: a service by they could watch one game or none.

1050
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: We all got together to watch them. When we're telling

1051
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: what we say, the draft to me feels it just

1052
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: feels the one area where the lead up to it

1053
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: and the reaction to it is slightly absurd. And I

1054
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: thought you were going to talk about the Oranga thing

1055
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: and everything that is, well, don't even get me started

1056
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: on that business. Elevate your underwear game to the next

1057
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: level with means you know what it is? What is

1058
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: means you know what it is? Oh oh just seriously soft,

1059
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1060
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Speaker 1: Let's get on it right and by the way, you're

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Speaker 1: flying back into a hornet's nest. Anyway, let's move on.

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Speaker 1: We'll check in on go, get my lunch. Oh what

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00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: a glorious day today is and uh oh hey, listen,

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: I'll take it twice. Turn it up in your headphones,

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00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: everybody'll med now listen to the sounds from around like

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00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: I'll take it twice cut two thirty seconds before on

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00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: instant message, play the song, Sydney, play the song or

1099
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Speaker 1: else I get it. You're in a bad mood, Gregg,

1100
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: and you should be because, uh, you did very poorly.

1101
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: Unduh go get my lunch. In fact, uh, you lost

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00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: first place overall in the standings today and you know that,

1103
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: but I did f You're not to say, you know,

1104
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: stop stepping on listen just because you're in a bad mood.

1105
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: Let's go through it. Greg, people on the edge of this,

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: and don't look at my scream driving me crazy. Chris

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: Westling will start with finished eight and five. Nice job,

1108
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: West We talked about how this was a big round

1109
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: for you and you do what champions do. You step

1110
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: up and you deliver with a nice round. It could

1111
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: have been a much better round if the Bengals would

1112
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: have just stayed with their pick and took taking Joe

1113
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: Mixing at one. Yeah, so you went eight and five. Uh.

1114
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: If the forty this was your first prop. If the

1115
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: forty Niners picked number two, they will not draft an

1116
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: offensive player. Greg and Mark took you up on it,

1117
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: but the Niners traded out of that pick. The windfall

1118
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: that they received. It's kind of weak. Uh So that

1119
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: is that hurt you? That is a void? No winner there.

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00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean they went to number three. It's not like

1121
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: they dropped all the way down to twelve. You could

1122
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: have you could have had some sandwiches and they took

1123
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: a defensive player. That was that was a week job.

1124
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: By the go get my lunch rollers. What are you

1125
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: trying to say? You gotta be you gotta be careful

1126
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: with the language. The language is so important with it.

1127
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: You went out of your way actually to say that

1128
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: they wouldn't trade out. I mean that if it they

1129
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: traded out, it wouldn't count. I mean, but the spirit

1130
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: of the statement was if they trade all the way

1131
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 1: down to number twelve or something, all bets are off.

1132
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: But if the Bears want to overpay prodigiously just to

1133
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: move up one spot. I mean, after your little scam

1134
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: with the brock Oswidler Proper last year, do you know

1135
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: how many people, how many people I blocked for absolutely

1136
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: refusing to use common sense on that issue. This is

1137
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: you know what, this is this ruling which I agree

1138
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: sandwiches don't lie. It's like when you miss a foul

1139
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: shot after a foul that you didn't deserve. I accept it,

1140
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: but I know in my heart that I might. I

1141
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: had to write there. The first quarterback drafted was number two,

1142
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: obviously Trabiskie. None of us got at West had predicted

1143
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: number five Christian McCaffrey won't be drafted by the Panthers.

1144
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: Only That's what I mean. It's a bad by me

1145
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: and Dan for not taking you. I was going with

1146
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: only Mark got a sandwich there. I was going with

1147
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: the Greg Rosenthal prince sible that you always take the field. Yeah,

1148
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't work out for me. There one

1149
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: from you. And the reason I didn't take it is

1150
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: because I had that same prop. I wanted to stay true.

1151
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon gets drafted before Dalvin Cook. That cost you three.

1152
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: It was a good logic to it, but it didn't

1153
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: work out. Dan, Greg and Mark all got sandwich. And

1154
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: it was very close. I mean it came down to

1155
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: the Vikings having to trade up into the Bengal spot

1156
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: to to get ahead of him. So good sandwich drama.

1157
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Nothing else was Yeah. The next up Mark Sessler, who

1158
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: had a round that was very reminiscent what was the

1159
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: Brown season Mark when they won on Thursday night football

1160
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati and then just collapsed. All right. That was

1161
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: That's what Sessler's draft was. He started three and oh

1162
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: on Thursday, flying High, finished four in ten. At that

1163
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: point he's Brian Hoyer and it's week eleven or whatever

1164
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: it was. The tumble was fierce. Uh. Four in ten.

1165
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: You had number five overall for the quarterback as well.

1166
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: You had Joe Mixon is drafted by I pick forty five,

1167
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: and I believe he went. One thing that's happened there

1168
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not he wouldn't have been picked in these

1169
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: spots apparently, but the but the Packers and the Browns

1170
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: were sitting there at one point in those spots, and

1171
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: then they weren't, and suddenly teams that would not have

1172
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: wanted Joe Mixon jumped in. H You had it rains

1173
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: during draft hours, and you and our our friend the

1174
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: weatherman in Oklahoma both wrong on this one. Three more sandwiches.

1175
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: It was. I'll say I had fun with that one

1176
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: because there was like, it wasn't you find out right

1177
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: away you lose. There was always hope until suddenly, you know,

1178
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: it's this ridiculously long third day came within it added

1179
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: some excitement to two notes there we heard from Scheck

1180
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: uh and Colleen it rained last night, but not during

1181
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: draft hours. Uh. And also at one point where we

1182
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: just happen to be talking about this, at some point

1183
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: during the third day, we look over and there's rain

1184
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: or what appears to be rain pouring down on some

1185
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: children in the sidewalk. But they had just opened up

1186
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: a fire. Hyper Right, Who do people do that anymore?

1187
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Open up the fire hydrants? You know you're allowed to.

1188
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: It seems waste. Yeah, we did that happened in New

1189
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: York sometimes. And here's another one there. You kind of

1190
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: put yourself out there and got banged. A team misses

1191
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: a pick three more sandwiches. Well, I thought that might

1192
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: be tied into weather chaos, and none of that happened.

1193
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: But you know, I, you were really right. I am

1194
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: a showman and I care about you know, entertainment over food.

1195
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: And uh, I got absolutely killed here. So you always

1196
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: put everything above food, and this time we got you. Well,

1197
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: it's I'm not putting it above food for for the

1198
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: three of you. Greg Rosenthal six and eight, Ruben Foster

1199
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: gets drafted in the top fifteen. Uh, Dan and Westmid's

1200
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: sandwiches there when did he go thirty one? So that

1201
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: was not even close. Yeah, the first quarterback number ten

1202
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: overall and correct, John Ross get that second quarterback at

1203
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: number ten, John, That gets you nothing. This one is

1204
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: the one that really stuck in Greg's craw which is

1205
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: why I really loved it. John Ross will be drafted.

1206
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: The head of Mike Williams cost you a three sandwiches ouch.

1207
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: We loved it, loved it. You know, you gotta trust

1208
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: the process long term, Like Sashy Brown, sometimes things don't

1209
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: work out, but you made a sensible call. He got

1210
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: taken in the top ten. It just wasn't good enough.

1211
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: I thought he'd get taken early. I like the Cleveland's

1212
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: GM is now being referenced, as you know, a picture

1213
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: of patients and planning. Cut to after this went against Greg.

1214
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: Cut to the living room of his home in Santa Monica.

1215
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: He's sitting on the couch, no blinking, staring at a

1216
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: television screen that just has fuzz for like four straight hours.

1217
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: Just destroyed, gutted, aug boggy with yourself. After that, the

1218
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: Saints or Cardinals will draft a quarterback in round one.

1219
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: Mark Again, I like the process. I think they were.

1220
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: They were the reportings out there that they were going

1221
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: to take Mahomes and the Chiefs jumped up and got him.

1222
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: So so they got so I so I lost. It

1223
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: looks like Mark again, by the way, that going against

1224
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: what was your new policy of just getting involved more.

1225
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: It cost at least two Sandwich. This was an absolute

1226
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: disaster on all fronts. That's the whole thing. See six

1227
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: and eight. I just got in on the rest and

1228
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: at least they got it back to close part of

1229
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: the game. In fact, I was the only one that

1230
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: got anything right in terms of predictions. That's why I

1231
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: ended up eleven and two. Marone the old Zeuser the

1232
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: first QB I had at number six. That was wrong.

1233
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: The Browns and Texans drafted a QB in the first round.

1234
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: Just missed that one. The Browns took one in the

1235
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: second round. The Texans obviously took it in the first round.

1236
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: Greg and West, I say just missed because I mean

1237
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: the Browns took three players in the first round and

1238
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: none of them were at court. I think they would have.

1239
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: I think Trubisky would have been a Brown if the

1240
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: Bears didn't go nuts well, and I would have no

1241
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: longer been part of this company, and that happened. But

1242
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: I caught that cost me two sandwiches there. I lost there,

1243
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: but then things turned around. I had the J J.

1244
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: Watt one, of course, or he posted a picture from

1245
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: his draft with his younger brother t J. No one

1246
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: took me on that though, so I didn't make any sandwiches.

1247
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: And then uh, Jets draft a defensive player in the

1248
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: first round, which they did in the safety Jamal Adams,

1249
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: and do not draft a quarterback with their first three picks.

1250
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,919
Speaker 1: In fact, they didn't take any quarterbacks at all, as

1251
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: they are firmly on the road to scamp. For Sam,

1252
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: that was a good job by you and a bad

1253
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: job by us. Yeah, they made all kinds of logic,

1254
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: but we all got caught up in the you've got

1255
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: too many moving parts theory. Also also about Hey, how

1256
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: about a bad job Mike mccagnet for drafting Christian Hackenburg

1257
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: in the second round and then having so much faith

1258
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: you don't draft a rookie the next year, and way

1259
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: to double down on your big time mistake. Maybe he's

1260
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: not gonna be there next year to make that draft

1261
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: pick when they go to and fourteen. Hey, ms, the

1262
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: know it all over here and never even seen Christians

1263
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: in the game. The Jets are gonna keep it that way.

1264
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: They don't want him out there. Uh. And then Sydney,

1265
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: of course mhm, of course you don't like to see this.

1266
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: You know we talked about this already. Oh and four,

1267
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: four sandwiches and uh and just the final because Mark,

1268
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 1: one of your source of consternation for you was who

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Speaker 1: actually owes what at the end of the day. At

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Speaker 1: the end, it makes no sense now it does. West

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Speaker 1: is okay, he owes me one sandwich. That's it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Marco's West one sandwich, Marco's Greg two sandwiches, owes the

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Speaker 1: old Zeuser four have chilled out home that essentially will

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Speaker 1: not be eating until late June. So you lost seven

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Speaker 1: sandwiches in this Daddy ever coming back, he might come

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Speaker 1: back with no money on the table. Greg goes West

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Speaker 1: two sandwiches and this one, this is the sweet one.

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Speaker 1: I was the old juer Danny boy three. And then

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Speaker 1: Sydney knows each of us one. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing you your four sandwiches at once. Yeah, just to

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01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: punish you, and you can do what you want with him.

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01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: It's like in Willy Wonka, the one with Gene Wilder

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01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: where they just keep feeding here in the candy and

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Speaker 1: she floats away and explodes. Better be hungry that day, Sydney.

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Speaker 1: This is your first time plane. Go get my lunch. Um,

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01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: you didn't even make it to the draft really before

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Speaker 1: having lost those four sandwiches. Your your mom is is

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01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: here still, right? Um? I'm sure she's like, do you

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01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: feel like you've brought shame upon your family? I have,

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Speaker 1: but not more so. This is actually my second time

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Speaker 1: playing because the first time I thought that Zigance I

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Speaker 1: was gonna have a big and he's a by U guy,

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Speaker 1: So that was like double shame on my house and

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Speaker 1: my family and undoubtedly your mom, who's here on you know,

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: a vacation to see you. This is what she wants

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: to be doing with her time in California, sitting in

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Speaker 1: a stuffy eight by eight foot studio listening to us

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Speaker 1: on a Saturday. This is my birthday present to her.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean I guess that makes you owe

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01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: an eight lifetime entering territory? Yep. Also, I have one

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: out there for Johnny Menzel to side with the team.

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01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to stick with it in this league.

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Speaker 1: In the in this league. I mean, yes, I believe that.

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: Did say NFL start preparing food for everyone? Yes? Um,

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01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, Go get my lunch wrap up.

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01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: Check it out. Nick Fortier, who did an amazing job

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01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: all through the draft, was updating the props in real time.

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01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: Go get my lunch dot org. That has the all

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Speaker 1: time standings. It has bioinformation and a little fun thing

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: we now have who owes what but the fun tab

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Speaker 1: the soundboard. We got a lot of tweets about, oh,

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Speaker 1: where do I get the drops? I don't know how

1313
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: you can get them from Nick's website to your hard

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01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: drive or whatever you're trying to do. But if you're

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: trying to get drops for ring tone or whatever, at

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01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: least you can know that you can find some on

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01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Go get my Lunch do or before we go, it's

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: time to get the man on the phone, the man,

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Speaker 1: the myth, the legend. He was in Philadelphia. He is

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01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: a real reporter, um and he successfully lobbied UH to

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Speaker 1: have the privilege to drive from New Jersey to Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: to cover the two thousand seventeen NFL Draft. And now

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna get his first spective as a man who

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Speaker 1: had boots on the ground. He is, of course Connor

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: or what's up? But what's going on? Everybody? Hey, Bud, Hello,

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01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: where do we want to start with? Connor? How how

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Speaker 1: is the How was the draft for you in Philadelphia? Uh?

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Speaker 1: It was great. You know, I always kind of avoided, um,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia growing up in scrant that was kind of our

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01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: little brother city, and so I always kind of thought

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: it was sort of a stupid place to hang out.

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: But um, I'll be honest, like it it didn't. Uh,

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01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: it didn't smell like throw up like a lot of

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01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: people had said. Um. And it was clean and historical

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01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I thought it was great. It

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: was like, um, when everything was sort of set up

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01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: and going crazy, it was like it was like a

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: Coachella for heavy set, forty five year old white people.

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01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: So it was. It was. It was incredible. I really,

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm not being sarcastic when I say it was one

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: of the cooler things that i've I've I've covered so

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: and you just provided a tagline for them to use

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01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: an advertising next year. Why did it work though? In

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01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: your opinion Connor as someone that was there, because the

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: explanation to me, as some of that maybe doesn't love

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01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: big crowds and long lines and heat. It would sound

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: to me like some elements of place to make it

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: not fun. But yet everyone you talked to said that

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01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: everyone was having a good time. Why do you think

1350
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: it was? It? Was it the newness of it? Or

1351
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: was did the NFL really get something right here? I

1352
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: think it was a combination of everything. I mean, the

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: first day when I got down there, someone screamed out

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: of their car to tell me the f off because

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: they couldn't turn somewhere because and they saw me wearing

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01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: an NFL credential, and they thought that I was in

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01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: charge of blocking off the city. But um, once we

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: got over that, UM, I had like if you sort

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: of if you started at the beginning of the NFL experience,

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: it was like a three almost like a three quarter

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01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: mile walk up to the Art Museum, and there was

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01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: enough space where you weren't like pressed up against anybody

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: unless you really want to to get to the front,

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01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: which I think was good. You could hear from you know,

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01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: like miles back, which I think was good. And then

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: there was like plenty of beer, plenty of water, you know,

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01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: like plenty of like games and stuff of like virtual reality,

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01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: so like at any time that someone would get like

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: remotely bored or frustrated, I think you could turn around

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Speaker 1: and have something else to do, which I think was

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: uh sort of a big win for them. Where there

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Speaker 1: did you witness any sort of fights? I mean, there

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of this. There's an annoying element I

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01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: would imagine if you're not an Eagles fan, where they

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: dominated the scene, but maybe some people that were lathered

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01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: up some punches, throwns, some sharp words. I think the

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Speaker 1: funniest thing that I saw was like, um, it was

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: like a group of like something like that was like

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: a group of teens and they were all wearing the

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01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: same Carson Wentz serse and they were like scattering from

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: a group of adults trying to smoke cigarettes, which was

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01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: like one of the funniest things like that that I

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01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen in my life. But the only

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Speaker 1: person that I saw that was like genuinely upset or

1385
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: afraid for one moment was like I sort of popped

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01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, um after the first round, and I

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01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,959
Speaker 1: saw Colleen Wolf and Dave Damn Check. I said hi,

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01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: and they didn't know who I was, and they kind

1389
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: of thought I was just like NFL dot com goober

1390
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: sort of coming up to them and the look on

1391
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: is like, oh no, like who is this person? So

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, Shack, I can see that. By the way, Shack,

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: I could definitely see him, and he hasn't had a

1394
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: lot of interaction with you, so it would make sense.

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: But Connie Fox, she got to do a better job.

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: If she indeed did not recognize you, I would say

1397
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: it was dark and I'm I'm experimenting with the beard

1398
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: that we should give credit. I don't think other cities

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01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: would have responded like this. I mean a big part

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01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: of it is because it's Philadelphia. They really do have

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01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: a higher intensity and level of sports fans than just

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01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: about any city. I'm not saying any city, but not

1403
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: every city is going to come out in those sort

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: of numbers and provide that kind of energy. And just

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: having been to Philadelphia a few times, I think it's

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01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: one of the most underrated places in the country. It

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: is a great a great place to spend a weekend.

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: I would say, um, I definitely have the best dim

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01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: sum I've ever had down there. Uh so uh if

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: that speaks to the cultural diversity and uniqueness of the city.

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01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: I would say that that is is a definite plus.

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you know, I think the fly

1413
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: Eagles fly thing got a little on everybody's nerves eventually,

1414
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: but you know, at the same time, uh, there was

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: enough fans from everywhere where people sort of could cluster

1416
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: and yell their own things to each other. So I

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: think that it was and ended up being pretty cool.

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: Did you say, uh, this is kind of the cliche

1419
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: thing to do, but you've said that you've not gone

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01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia a lot. I guess did you do the

1421
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: cheese steak thing? Did you do any of the cliche

1422
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: like things? No, um, and I subscribe to like the

1423
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: Louis c. K theory where like just don't tell me

1424
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: like when I go to that town, I gotta do

1425
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: that thing. Like you know, if you go Chicago, you

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01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: have to have like deep dish pizza, Like no, I don't,

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, because I don't want it, and I didn't

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: I didn't want I didn't want cheese steak, but I

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01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: did want a warm shrimp salad with lemon verblanc and

1430
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: I did have that. So good for you to treat

1431
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: yourself on fire. Any any final takeaways from your time

1432
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, con I think what was cool to me

1433
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: was seeing everybody that like runs the circuit normally and

1434
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: how like cynical they've become actually looked down at at

1435
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: what like what was like almost a hundred thousand people

1436
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: the first night, and it looked like a like a

1437
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: mused concert. It was just like ridiculous and actually be

1438
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: taken aback by it. I thought that was pretty cool because,

1439
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it is sort of like a commercialized like

1440
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: sort of event now where we're trying to create drama

1441
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: and do all this stuff. But at the same time,

1442
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 1: there was just a buttload of people. They're going crazy,

1443
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: So I think I think you got to give the

1444
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: NFL credit for that. Connor, I know the four of

1445
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: us are about to go have a beer the draft

1446
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: is over. I think that really starts the off season

1447
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: in a big way. You've been off the claw for

1448
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: a while. Now, what are you drinking at the moment?

1449
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: I am drinking a lag Anitas cappuccino stout and I

1450
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: am standing my stairs. That's what I'm doing right now.

1451
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm standing my stairs. I'm restoring old wooden stairs

1452
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: and uh oh, you're back. Home and Steely Dan Oh yeah, yeah,

1453
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: once again cementing your role as the manliest and most

1454
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: adult of the around. By the way, when you mentioned

1455
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: Steely Dan West woke up. Give him a much much

1456
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: album any major did. Will tell you I'm doing Countdown

1457
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: to Ecstasy right now. All right, that's a fitting way, uh,

1458
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: to close it out. Connor Rour, thank you very much

1459
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: for u supporting us with good information about what it

1460
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: was like boots on the ground in Philadelphia. Carry on

1461
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: with your great Saturday night buddy. It's been a pleasure.

1462
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: And with the two pick in the two thousand and

1463
01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select your gross

1464
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: uncle Terry's laser disc copy of Speed to Cruise Control.

1465
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: They're the best football team. What a team. You did

1466
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: it again, Greg, always a step ahead. We'll be back

1467
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: on Monday. Do we we have to come back on Monday?

1468
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 1: We just we did like, don't necessarily so we'll see.

1469
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing more to talk about. We'll talk about that

1470
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: off the air. We'll be back September after the first.

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: Now we'll probably be back Monday, and if not that

1472
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: and if not Tuesday. Uh. The for some more draft

1473
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: fallout and a thirty seven minute talk on Randy Gregory.

1474
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 1: Uh so, make sure you tune in for that. But

1475
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: until then, it's time to go home where the bar.

1476
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,919
Speaker 1: This Dan hands is signing off. Four Quiet Storm, the Mailman,

1477
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: the Boss, New Money behind the Glass, and New Money's

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Speaker 1: Mommy Situation until next week