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Speaker 1: From the heat of Woodland Hills, a new season Hits

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Speaker 1: and we already here on between the Horns, presented by

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Speaker 1: your Southern California Toyo to Dealers. I'm JB. Long and

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Speaker 1: you know my friends and colleagues, super Bowl champion Tomarco

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Speaker 1: Farr and Maurice Jones Drew. But let me reintroduce them anyways.

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Speaker 1: DeMarco is in year sixteen as a broadcaster. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: you're thirty, representing the rank he.

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Speaker 2: Loves, saying that he loves saying that the anniversary.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't shout out often enough, but

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Speaker 1: I want to hear. You're the host of RAMS Iconic,

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Speaker 1: which has become one of my favorite listens.

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Speaker 2: You're kidding me? A really good episode, fun show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: get to meet all those guys. Absolutely, someday I'll interview you.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope, my friend, Let's hope. And Maurice Jones Drew,

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Speaker 1: who once led the NFL in rushing and get this,

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Speaker 1: has also returned punts in the NFL am I right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I did a little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We'll get to that in the

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Speaker 1: cop The twenty twenty four Los Angeles Rams. How are

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Speaker 1: you guys, good man, that's the good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned heat where it's cold out here, could be warmer.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Like I said, I was in Florida.

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Speaker 3: This is beautiful. This is a beautiful day in Florida. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is probably like six thirty in the morning Florida times.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we do expect to be indoors next week. Our

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Speaker 1: new facility here in Woodland Hills, the studio is almost ready.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to showcase that and show it to you,

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Speaker 1: perhaps as soon as same Monday of next week. But

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Speaker 1: for now we're previewing the Detroit Lions, and Week one,

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season picks up right where the

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Speaker 1: last one ended. And let's talk about the work the

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Speaker 1: Rams have done since I was driving up this morning thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the unique way I can frame the work the

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Speaker 1: Rams have put in to fortify their roster. And here's

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna come up with, MJJ. I'll start with,

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Speaker 1: you could this team right now beat the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three Los Angeles Rams, the Rams of right now going

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Speaker 1: up against the Rams that lost to the lines in January.

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Speaker 1: You're noddy, I think so.

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Speaker 3: If they're all healthy. I think that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 3: Health is the biggest situation with the offensive line. Uh,

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Speaker 3: but you have to think you've added young pieces that

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Speaker 3: can play. You lost a huge piece on defense, but

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Speaker 3: the defense was kind of coming around as of late.

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Speaker 3: But offensively, I think you're better healthy Cooper Cup, bigger

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Speaker 3: offensive line another year with Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay.

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Speaker 3: You added Blake Krum. All of a sudden, it looks

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Speaker 3: a little bit diferent. The tight end room is completely

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Speaker 3: different than what it was and revamped, and so to me, offensively,

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Speaker 3: you're you're better. Defensively, you've added some really good pieces.

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Speaker 3: You added Trey White, who was obviously coming off that

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Speaker 3: secondary is a little bit more fortified. And then the

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Speaker 3: biggest hole is obviously the defensive line. But I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to see what these two young guys do. And

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Speaker 3: you know, we're in the lunch room and I didn't

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Speaker 3: want to bring up Florida State. Jared Mers was there,

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Speaker 3: but the fact that they look like that and we

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Speaker 3: and you brought that up.

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Speaker 1: You said it like, oh is that good? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Boston College now, yeah, I see.

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Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, So to me, I think there's a lot

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Speaker 3: like really, there's so many, so much more talent on

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Speaker 2: I see where you potentially, yes, they could be better,

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Speaker 2: But I got to say, I mean, Aaron's not here,

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Speaker 2: that's right, and last year's team would beat this year's

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Speaker 2: team because of him. He is that good. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to back off that statement, but I think they

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Speaker 2: have potential to be better. The offense should be better,

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Speaker 2: remarkably better or as good as it was last year.

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Speaker 2: If you keep everybody healthy, the offensive line is better

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Speaker 2: and I think that will play itself out. But defensively speaking,

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Speaker 2: You can't trade one for one. You'll never get a

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Speaker 1: I think every position group save for defensive tackle, off

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Speaker 1: ball linebacker, I can make the case the twenty four

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Speaker 1: the end of last season in January. So let's go

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Speaker 1: there with some latest news. DeMarco and I have talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit about these things, but MJD. I want

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Speaker 1: Ernest Jones and what the Rams are rolling with in

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Speaker 3: My reaction was, we got off the plan from Houston.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting on my Uber and I see Ernest Jones

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Speaker 4: He had his card. Then I saw him walking back

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Speaker 3: It was interesting. Everybody had left, so I was kind

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Speaker 3: I go, it makes sense, right, he was kind of

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Speaker 3: dealing with his agent. If I respect the Rams, if

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Speaker 3: else and possibly get paid, Right, That's a kudos to

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Speaker 3: the Rams. Obviously get something back as well for Ernest though,

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Speaker 3: that's a big loss, right, that emotional leader, that guy

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Speaker 3: that had everybody going. That energy that he brought is

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Speaker 3: it's tough. But at the end of the day, we've

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Speaker 3: I think Omar Space is going to be a guy

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Speaker 3: Gives guys set right. That's always important to getting guys

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Speaker 3: needed to be made. They made it, and I might

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Speaker 1: So you're willing to judge by the results. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: give this coaching staff the benefit of the doubt, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna know those results really soon, because I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure there's an offensive roster in the league that's gonna

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Speaker 1: vet you more than the Detroit Lions DeMarco. The other

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Speaker 1: one that has happened recently is the flip guard and center.

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Speaker 1: Yeaham's fans who are like, oh no, that can't be

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Speaker 1: a good sign. No, is there another spin on this?

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Speaker 2: No? Well, I mean it just depends on how you

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Speaker 2: look and how they play. And just like you as

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Speaker 2: thing with center guard. If there's a switch coming up,

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Speaker 2: out you're gonna switch your guarden center, well that makes

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Speaker 2: me smile. That must be an issue. One of those

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Speaker 2: not be practicing well. So there's got to be some

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Speaker 2: He's a smart guy. Steve Avila played left guard. He's

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Speaker 2: going right back to the spot that he was really

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Speaker 2: good in last season, and he played center in training

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Speaker 2: camp this year. So you're getting really two centers out there.

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Speaker 2: So if you have one guy that's on the men,

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Speaker 2: so to speak, with the scapula. The one thing a

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Speaker 2: has help. The guards are on islands. So if the

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Speaker 2: there against Detroit's defensive tackles with all that crowd noise,

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Speaker 2: I're gonna get a jump on you, and then have

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Speaker 2: help on both sides. So it is a shock, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be as much of an

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Speaker 4: When I saw that, I was I was kind of like,

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Speaker 3: But I understand exactly what you're saying, Like, listen, you

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Speaker 3: gotta protect him, right, He's been banged up all through

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Speaker 3: training camp. We have to protect Jonah Jackson to make

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Speaker 3: the field getting it going. So if that means we

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Speaker 3: you go back to guardad you go back to guard

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Speaker 3: and then wolf flip vice versas as the season goes on.

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Speaker 1: Can I pitch you on an alternative interpretation or explanation?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not in that room.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is me reading Tea leaves. But because Joe Opum

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Speaker 1: is now playing tackle, who's your next best interior offensive lineman?

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Speaker 1: You got the starting three, who do you think your

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Speaker 1: next best one is? I think it might be Bo Limmer.

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Speaker 1: I think I think maybe they took a look at

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Speaker 1: what they've seen so far and said, Limmer is our

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Speaker 1: fourth Where does he plug in most easily? At center?

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Speaker 1: So how do we arrange the front line such that

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Speaker 1: if anything were to happen guard to guard, Limmer can

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Speaker 1: come in and play center. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: like this or not.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of those that were going

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Speaker 3: to go into that, just because again, you have to

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Speaker 3: make sure when you're carrying six seven linemen that you

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Speaker 3: can have swing guys that can do different things. I

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Speaker 3: remember a couple of years ago the Rams were cross

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Speaker 3: training everybody but uh uh Andrew uh left tackle Worth. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone else played every position but except for him.

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Speaker 3: So just cross training those guys and make sure they're

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Speaker 3: prepared has always been some of the Rams have done.

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Speaker 2: This is just something that came up. The thing I

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Speaker 2: before I forget Whitworth. Kay, there's an opportunity here for

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl contenders. Oh I was about to say that,

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Speaker 1: If they are, I think it's because of my answer

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Speaker 1: Your answer to that question is just this weekend, just

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Speaker 3: year to win a playoff game, because again, once you

433
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Speaker 3: get that first one under your belt, it was very

434
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Speaker 3: similar to what happened when they won the Super Bowl

435
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. You just got out of the

436
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Speaker 3: first round. That's all you got to do is get

437
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Speaker 3: out the first round, right, You got that one out

438
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Speaker 3: the way you beat the Cardinals, and then it was like,

439
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Speaker 3: all right, here we go. We're on the road to Tampa.

440
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Speaker 3: We'll figure we played well against Tampa. We know how

441
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Speaker 3: to beat them. We know how to play them good.

442
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Speaker 3: Then we got the Niners at home and it was like, oh,

443
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,919
Speaker 3: we got a little momentum. You got little things going on,

444
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,000
Speaker 3: and so it's just getting out of that first round

445
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Speaker 3: or that first playoff game.

446
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Speaker 2: Can you see this? Can you see this right here?

447
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Speaker 2: No that I mean me pulling your jersey. Yeah, if

448
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,480
Speaker 2: they would have saw that in Detroit, you would have

449
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,679
Speaker 2: won that game, no question.

450
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Speaker 4: And I thought you were talking about this.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, I got you coming back to

452
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Speaker 2: last fill.

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Speaker 1: In the blank, last fill in the blank. Then we'll

454
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Speaker 1: get to the Lions. The Rams most important rookie or newcomer,

455
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Speaker 1: if you don't want to limit it to the rookie class,

456
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Speaker 1: will be here, the most important newcomer for this year's team.

457
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Speaker 2: On the count of three, one two, three, kicker the kicker,

458
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Speaker 2: All right, Joshuaccarty for m JD. How about you, Brandon Fisk.

459
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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be that guy.

460
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're putting so much pressure on though he

461
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Speaker 3: has to fill in the eighty row. I don't want

462
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Speaker 3: to do that.

463
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Speaker 2: He don't feel pressure, No, he don't. But he's special,

464
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Speaker 2: He's he's different. I told you this before you lost

465
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Speaker 2: to Jedi, But there is another.

466
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Speaker 1: Can I reframe something for you? Because remember going back

467
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Speaker 1: to the draft and everyone's like they overpaid for Braiden Fizk,

468
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Speaker 1: Like that was a huge They basically gave up a

469
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Speaker 1: future second round pick to get a second round pick, right,

470
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a steal. Yeah, that's kind of how

471
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Speaker 1: I feel too. Is if you know how the Rams

472
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Speaker 1: think about Braiden Fisk and if you've seen the impact

473
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Speaker 1: he's had in this offseason program, I think they're conceptualizing

474
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Speaker 1: it as Hey, a second round pick next year is

475
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Speaker 1: a small price to pay to get another first round

476
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Speaker 1: talent right now and.

477
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Speaker 2: We need And he's gonna play fifty sixty percent of

478
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Speaker 2: the snaps. He's gonna be resting, and when he gets

479
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Speaker 2: on the field, he's gonna be the energizer.

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Speaker 1: Bunny, I'm with you. The only one that I would

481
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Speaker 1: put in that same category as Jonah Yes, in terms

482
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Speaker 1: of like the multiplying factor.

483
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Speaker 2: I mean, I want to see how he plays at center.

484
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Speaker 2: But when he goes back to guard and the offensive

485
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Speaker 2: line goes to what we think it should be, either

486
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Speaker 2: Boom or a Lark Jackson and Rob Havenstein when they're

487
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Speaker 2: all together, I think this line has a chance to

488
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Speaker 2: be what Detroit is right now. Very multiple mash you

489
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Speaker 2: on first and ten and on third and long. Protect

490
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Speaker 2: the quarterback. Yeah, I would say this.

491
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Speaker 3: Last year, so many games came down to a field

492
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Speaker 3: goal and missed the extra point. That put us into

493
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Speaker 3: a situation that just the kicking game being smooth again, right,

494
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Speaker 3: that's gonna be the most important thing you talk about

495
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 3: putting up points seven.

496
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Speaker 4: That one puts more pressure on teams than you think.

497
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Speaker 1: Sure, Ram's left more points on the field in the

498
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Speaker 1: kicking game than any team in the National Football League

499
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Speaker 1: last year. And by the way, they lost that game

500
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Speaker 1: in Detroit by one. That was a red zone issue.

501
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Speaker 1: But we can get to that, all right, Yeah, yeah,

502
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Speaker 1: two week one ready for the Lions. Let's resist the

503
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Speaker 1: urge to just go right to the quarterback match up.

504
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Speaker 1: Let's save that for the end. Okay, speaking of Super

505
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Speaker 1: Bowl or bust expectations, how about what Aman Ross, Saint

506
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Speaker 1: Brown and Brad Holmes and everyone in Detroit. They're saying

507
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Speaker 1: that's where their sites are set, and no lower.

508
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Speaker 3: As they should be. You went to the NFC Champions Game,

509
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Speaker 3: We had it won, had it on you if you

510
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Speaker 3: would have just went back to who you were, who

511
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Speaker 3: Dan Campbell is running the football, biting a kneecap. You

512
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you come out in seven on

513
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Speaker 3: seven world, You're throwing the ball every other play, you're

514
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Speaker 3: up by twenty one. Just run the clock going to

515
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Speaker 3: four minute mode. Right, you win that game, you go

516
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Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, you'd ever know you already beat

517
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs week one. You had a chance probably to

518
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Speaker 3: win a super Bowl there. To me again, expectation. It's

519
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Speaker 3: just certain things happen with expectation. I think the Detroit

520
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Speaker 3: Lions are set up to be successful, but they got

521
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Speaker 3: to get back to who they are and who they

522
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Speaker 3: want to be. Who they wanted to be when they

523
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Speaker 3: first got through, when they wanted to change the culture

524
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Speaker 3: a ground and pound team. When you can do ground

525
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Speaker 3: and pound and you can play action pass, they become

526
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Speaker 3: one of the more more most dangerous team. Yeah, all

527
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's like, how do we stop this? Right?

528
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Speaker 3: And so to me again, going to the rams. This

529
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Speaker 3: is gonna be a tough test early on how physical

530
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Speaker 3: do you want to be? Right? It comes down to

531
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Speaker 3: stopping the run. Is a want to in physicality, that's

532
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Speaker 3: all it is. We already know where they want to run.

533
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Speaker 3: They want to run the A gaps and the BE gaps.

534
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Speaker 3: They really run outside. They do a little toss here,

535
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Speaker 3: They may do a reverse to Jamison Williams, but at

536
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, they want to run between

537
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Speaker 3: the A gaps and BE gaps. If you're in those

538
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Speaker 3: A gaps and BE gaps, how physical are you willing

539
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Speaker 3: to be to make sure they don't do that.

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Speaker 1: They're putting a lot on Williams. They need him to

541
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Speaker 1: be a legit wide receiver two for them to get

542
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Speaker 1: to where they're trying to go. Because when you're talking

543
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Speaker 1: about we still don't know who Josh Reynold's replacement is

544
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Speaker 1: that it's probably the only deficiency if there is one

545
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Speaker 1: on their offense. On defense, where they lacked last year

546
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Speaker 1: was in coverage. I mean they had guys running past

547
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Speaker 1: them in December and January. And what they do brought

548
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Speaker 1: in two vetts drafted to top picks. They feel like

549
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Speaker 1: they fixed the back end of that secondary.

550
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Speaker 3: Did you see the Giants Detroit highlight when they were

551
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Speaker 3: practicing against each other? No, yeah, Neighbors was running past everybody.

552
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's fixed per se. I think

553
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Speaker 3: they've thrown pieces at it to try to fix it.

554
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Speaker 3: It may be better than what it was. I just

555
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Speaker 3: don't know how if they're gonna be able to lock

556
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Speaker 3: up and play man like they did in the second

557
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Speaker 3: half of that game and just try to and.

558
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Speaker 1: Second half of that season they got back to Glenn's identity,

559
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Speaker 1: I think, which is like, hey, we're coming after you

560
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Speaker 1: and we're playing man behind. Yes, so they at least

561
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Speaker 1: have in Arnold, in Rakestraw and Carlton Davis and I

562
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Speaker 1: mean Robinson, they have more options to play that one.

563
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Speaker 3: Well question, you gotta think those guys are all man guys. Yes, right.

564
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Speaker 3: Carlton Davis is coming from Todd Bowles Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

565
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: where a strictly man and man and we've played him,

566
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Speaker 3: yeah right, We've going against him. And then Arnold, Yeah

567
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Speaker 3: he is. And Arnold I'm out of Alabama. Uh basketball

568
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: player has that ability to slide and move, but he's

569
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Speaker 3: a manned man guy. He's not his own guy. He

570
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Speaker 3: wants to be manned up, press and he wants to

571
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Speaker 3: run with you. So I think that bodes well though

572
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Speaker 3: for what the Rams want to do offensively. If you're

573
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Speaker 3: going to try to play man to stop the run,

574
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Speaker 3: that's gonna give Cooper Cup those options. Pooking, a cool

575
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Speaker 3: on the move, things like that. So we'll see how

576
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Speaker 3: it goes.

577
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Speaker 1: Take me somewhere else in this matchup. What else is

578
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Speaker 1: on your mind?

579
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Speaker 2: Well, he you mentioned the a gap and the first

580
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Speaker 2: guy that came to mind was Bobby Round the third. Yeah,

581
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Speaker 2: and I love it. I love his new personality. He's

582
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: been more personable. He's talking to the media a little

583
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Speaker 2: bit more. But now I need you to be nasty.

584
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Speaker 2: And you're exactly right, man. When you're trying to run

585
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: the football, it's not about x's and o's, it's about

586
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: want too. Sometimes it's a fight, man. And watching Detroit's

587
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 2: offensive line on video, I get that same queasy feeling

588
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: I used to get as a player when I watched

589
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Speaker 2: Dallas getting ready for that game, or getting ready for

590
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: Minnesota back in the day with that Hall of Famers

591
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Speaker 2: and All pros, or Denver's offensive line when they were

592
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: just cutting guys down like trees. So sometimes it's not

593
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: about x's and o's, it's about let me just refuse

594
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Speaker 2: to move. So Bobby Brown's to plant that foot in

595
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Speaker 2: the A gap and say I'm not going anywhere. Dexter

596
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: Lawrence says, where your stance is wider than your shoulders

597
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: and you look like you're almost four hundred pounds, You've

598
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Speaker 2: got to be that guy, especially this week when you

599
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: don't have Ernest Jones to run through blocks to get

600
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Speaker 2: to ball carriers. You're gonna have to keep those linebackers

601
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Speaker 2: clean so they can make plays. So if the Rams

602
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Speaker 2: are gonna win on Sunday, then Bobby Brown might be

603
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Speaker 2: the player of the game. He has to be quick

604
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Speaker 2: quest player.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be the five technique, which, well, who's

606
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Speaker 3: playing the five.

607
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Speaker 2: They can slide Kobe out there, they can slide Braden

608
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Speaker 2: Fisk to a five. Yes, that inside that the inside

609
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Speaker 2: four outside five.

610
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Speaker 3: That to me going back and watching the route wild

611
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Speaker 3: card round against Detroit, that five technique was Jonah Williams. Yeah,

612
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 3: was getting beat right, and that that is gonna be

613
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Speaker 3: very important to remember. When Michael Brockers used to be

614
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Speaker 3: the five they were stopping the run because the nose

615
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Speaker 3: was doing its job, and then it was the five

616
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Speaker 3: that has to do the other part. You gotta collapse

617
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Speaker 3: all that down and make them bounce.

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Speaker 2: So five is head up on the on the tackle,

619
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Speaker 2: right outside edge of the table between We've got a

620
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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator say, I want you to play in a five,

621
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Speaker 2: and I'm looking at that five and it's Penne Seul,

622
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Speaker 2: So you want.

623
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Speaker 1: Me to do?

624
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Speaker 3: What? Coach? That's what I'm up with this dude.

625
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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but that's where it's gonna take again.

626
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Speaker 3: We talked about someone has to be you know, you

627
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta grow up fast. You gotta get baptized

628
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: by fire in this in this league, and that is

629
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Speaker 3: going to be the most important position. The one, yes,

630
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 3: for sure, But that five, if that five can hold up,

631
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you they'll be able to stop the run.

632
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Speaker 3: I've run against three four defenses. We always attack the

633
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Speaker 3: five because normally that guy, unless you're playing the Pittsburgh Seelers,

634
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: is like two hundred and eighty pounds, so you can

635
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Speaker 3: get after him. But against the Pittsburgh Seed, they're like

636
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Speaker 3: all three hundred, so it's it's tougher for a tackle

637
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Speaker 3: to do it.

638
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Speaker 2: For all.

639
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Speaker 1: We've talked about the Rams off ball linebackers, and they're

640
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Speaker 1: putting a lot of faith in Rose Boomin reader, I

641
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: get it, and a lot of people see them as

642
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: coverage deficient. When I look at the lines, I think

643
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: they've got two great middle linebackers and Azeloni and Campbell

644
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Speaker 1: right like, yeah, I respect what they have there. If

645
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: there's a graded deficiency in their game, though, I think

646
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: it's coverage, no question. And if I know the Rams

647
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Speaker 1: head coach and Rams quarterback, if they've got a superpower,

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Speaker 1: I think it's exploiting linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, finding ways to get guys and get Cooper Cup

650
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Speaker 2: or Puoka open. Sean McVay has made a living off that,

651
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Speaker 2: and I think Detroit's deficiency in the secondary covering people

652
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: up is overshadowed by their their their pass rush with

653
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Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson coming the other way, and they got Marcus Davenport, now,

654
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Speaker 2: a guy I've always said this, hell when he's well,

655
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: but he's been sick a lot. Well, he's healthy now,

656
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: and when he's out there, all he does is make plays.

657
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: So if you're getting great pressure on the quarterback, you

658
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: could have us back there and you can still pick

659
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: off passes and have a great pass defense. So and

660
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Speaker 2: you're gonna be up there with crowd noise. Yeah yeah.

661
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: So the Rams did a great job last season in

662
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: January handling that crowd noise. Not a single false start,

663
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Speaker 2: and Hutchinson had two sacks. But remember those sacks. One

664
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: Stafford fell and the other one was like a kind

665
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: of a scramble. So they did a great job handling him.

666
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: Bring that same sort of mentality. Stop that pass rush.

667
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: You'll make plays against that secondary.

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Speaker 1: Great pre snat disciplined by you guys too. We're in

669
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Speaker 1: mid season four here, No one fall started on the

670
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Speaker 1: quarterback conversation. Go to the trade now, and I think

671
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Speaker 1: I think they'll match up again. Stafford and Golf will

672
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: play again, maybe as soon as this postseason, but I

673
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: think this is the last time we truly have to

674
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: sell it as the trade, right. Rams got what they want.

675
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: They got Stafford in some prime years, a Super Bowl

676
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Speaker 1: and many more after that. The Lions got Golf and

677
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: he's proven to be a franchise quarterback, and they got

678
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Speaker 1: the draft capitol build one of the best rosters in

679
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Win win, fine as they rematch

680
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: here at the outset of twenty twenty four, what's your

681
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: new context on Stafford be golf.

682
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Speaker 2: Still thinking about it?

683
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Speaker 3: No, to me, I think the win win, like the

684
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 3: trade is over. To me, it's been over, right. It

685
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: was over because the Rams won. It was over because

686
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: the Lions went to the NFC Championship game. That was

687
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: the end of it at that point. Now it's this

688
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: is more of a revenge game, right, It's more of

689
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: a rivalry game now in the fact of we went

690
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: to Detroit last year, Eminem was like, hey, Stafford, all

691
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: the stuff that went into it, right, So now is

692
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: my turn to be the villain. Rights now as our

693
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: turn as the Rams to go into Detroit and hand

694
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Speaker 3: them a last week one and make them feel how

695
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: we felt, right, Like I had a coach once to

696
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: tell us, you know, pain is free, right, you could

697
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: give that to other people, that people could take that

698
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: bag with them, right. So if you go to Week

699
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: one and you go out there and you outduel him

700
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: at home, and then then they get to boo on

701
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: him and all that stuff, and then then we've done

702
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: our job. Right. But a win win situation to me

703
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: is is neither there nor there. And then, to be

704
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 3: quite honest with you, is never Golf versus Stafford. It's

705
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 3: really Stafford versus that defense. And how can Chris Shula

706
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: and this defense rattle Jared Golf? Right getting to Jared,

707
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: we know Jared pressure up the middle rattles him. He

708
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: has a slide outside. He doesn't like to move his feet.

709
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: He likes to be planning in the pocket like a

710
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: statue and throw the football. How do you get him

711
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: off of his spot if you can do that.

712
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Situation, stopping the run, making him uncomfortable as the key

713
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: at all.

714
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: Like he said, I think it is Stafford versus Golf.

715
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: Who's more accurate, who can keep keep his team in

716
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: the game, who could will his team the victory? That

717
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: sort of stuff, And I would say, you're done with

718
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: the tennis etiquette. We're not jumping the net, we're not

719
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: shaking hands, we're not friends right now where I'm out

720
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: here to beat you, because remember how they treated Stafford

721
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: going into that game, and how they treated Jared. Jared, Jared,

722
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: that was all that stuff. So this is now turned

723
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: personal in my eyes. But I think it does come

724
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: down to which quarterback is going to be more accurate

725
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: than the other. And the thing is, if it gets

726
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: into a game to where it is a quarterback duel,

727
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: then I'm taking our guy.

728
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I think that's it. That's the crux of the matter

729
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: is seldom do both sides feel like we wouldn't unwind

730
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: that trade. We will get it back. The Rams feel

731
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: very much like our guys better than your guy, and

732
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: the Lions do too, and that's what's awesome.

733
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Speaker 4: And let me say this the last thing before we go, Dan.

734
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Speaker 1: Cam you give me a kid of the game too,

735
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: don't rush.

736
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Speaker 3: So Dan Campbell said something at the very end of

737
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: that game like this is our guy, right, this is

738
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Speaker 3: who we wanted. Now you've made it personal. Right, it

739
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: had to be. You didn't have to say all that,

740
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: you didn't have to do all that. After get you

741
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: want enjoy it. Yeah, But when you start to make

742
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: things personal, I think that that that's when you start

743
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: to get that. It doesn't mean like it's an extra

744
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: energy or anything, but it's just you're like, Okay, I'm

745
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: a competitor. Is that how you feel. Let me show you,

746
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: let me prove to you and my guys, and no,

747
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: like I'm the right guy.

748
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Speaker 2: I love her husband's in the room exactly. That's not good.

749
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, our cameras are overheating. Our crew is falling

750
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: down from defense puation. But to Marco, I know you

751
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: got one last key to the game before we go.

752
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so handling that offensive line, Detroit offensive line is one.

753
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: We talked about stuff in the run, but somebody else

754
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: is gonna have to step up and be the closer.

755
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: That's the one thing you're gonna miss with Aaron Donald.

756
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: That is why he's going to Canton. That's what that's

757
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: what makes him special, not just doing the defensive tackle stuff,

758
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: making plays versus the run, getting in on the quarterback,

759
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: getting sacks. He closed out games, He closed out the

760
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yeah, that is what you need to develop.

761
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: Jared Vers is gonna be a good player. Brayden Fisk

762
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: is going to be a good player. Bryron Young is

763
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: coming into his own Kobe turn of two. What you

764
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: need to develop is that closer's mentality. So we'll see

765
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Speaker 2: which one of those guys on defense is gonna step

766
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Speaker 2: up and become that closer for this football team.

767
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Speaker 3: For me, the key to the game is gonna be

768
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: red zone. It just said Sam Well defensively, can't you

769
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: hold him? The field goals in the red zone offensive

770
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: games scored touchdowns.

771
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Speaker 1: Last year, the line scored three straight touchdown drives on

772
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Speaker 1: eventually short fields like tight red area touchdowns to grab

773
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: the lead. They never gave it back the rams, if

774
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, settled for three red zone field goals,

775
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: lose by one. That's the difference, right there. I'm with

776
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: you all right to the ice bath.

777
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: Thanks you there. I'll meet you there. MJD.

778
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: DeMarco, far Jblong. Going back to Detroit, we will not

779
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: hopefully end up on the tarmac point and all nighter.

780
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: Oh dude, do the winter.

781
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 3: Did we do that?

782
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

783
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: We did that? Oh god, I remember.

784
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: Do you remember that time where he slept for twelve

785
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: hours straight, wove right daylight and I was like, what

786
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: is going on?

787
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: Why is it that ever happened again? That will never

788
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: wake up Maury?

789
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: This is not true, but I keep repeating the story.

790
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: DeMarco has heard it already. Aaron Donald was coming back

791
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: in twenty four, he was, he was, I'm good, Let's

792
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: let's do it one more time. And then you spend

793
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: five hours overnight on the tarmac in Detroit frozen, can't refuel.

794
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: He's like, you know.

795
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: What, private jests from here on out the rest, It's

796
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: so great to be back with you.

797
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: What twenty plus weeks of uninterrupted football now, this is

798
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: where we all want to be. And next week in

799
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: an air conditioned studio for MJD. DeMarco far on JBA.

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Speaker 1: This is between the One and Lenebado, Southern California, Toyota

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Speaker 1: dest