1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: So exactly what are the Cardinals getting with ole miss 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Walter Nolan II. Welcome Bird Gang on today's show, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Paul Calvis, he joins me, and how about this, We've 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: got Adrian Wilson on the show. That's right, he finally 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: said yes. The Cardinals Legend Ring of Honor member goes 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: in depth on Nolan, the player and the person at 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two, episode eight seventy five, and it starts now. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Buda Baker, what Heart? 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: What rent? 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: So more hurry magic. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Whow here's Craig Grioler. 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: So history being made here on this Friday, Paul, at 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: least here on Cardinals cover two, presented by Hyundai, probably 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Because the gentleman that is 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: to your right and directly across from me, mean right 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: off the Dutton Ranch, Yellowstone. That's right, Adrian Wilson has 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: been this show's white whale. And we are almost nine 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: hundred episodes in and we are finally getting Cardinals legend 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: ring at number on the Cardinals Cover two podcast. 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: Call me Ishmael, No, call me Adrian. Is that what 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 4: you're saying, the white whale? Is that what we're getting here? 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Okay? 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: I didn't know if that was a good thing or 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: a bad thing. Oh yeah, I have no clue what 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: that term means. 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: No clue what in the same name of Dick that 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: is that kind of an intro Craig Grill. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: See now, I just gave you some work before Night 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: two begins of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know. It was like it was dapping 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: me right there or something else. I didn't know what. 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: You've just been hard to pin down, hard to schedule, 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: hard to kind of make your way into this studio 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit. 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: You know, I've been in this build in twenty plus years, guys, 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: so let's just not in this area. Let's just be 44 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: clear on that. 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: He's been just too busy for this. That's probably what 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: it is. There's a priority list, and myself is kind 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: of like down low. Well, he's a. 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: Self professed grinder. Okay, so we're low on the priority list. 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 4: He he has a lot of other things, boxes he 50 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: has to check before he gets around to us. 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: Okay, one of the hundred episodes is a lot. That's 52 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot. 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think we kind of gave up at some point. 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm not really sure there have been a you know. 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Anyway, here we are, by the way, speaking of boxes 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: that have to be checked. Got to ask you ad 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Up about Draft Night as far as the official draft 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: party out at the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: on Thursday. How was it the vibe that you got 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: before the pick of Walter Nolan the third and then afterwards. 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, obviously, I'm very appreciative of an 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: opportunity to be there. I thought Paul did an excellent 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: job of really really driving the show, you know, and 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: really keeping the crowd engaged. You know, he did his thing. 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: I was not expecting praise from one Paul Calvisio. 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: What he doesn't know is, moments before he arrived, I 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: did say that if things go sideways, it won't necessarily 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: be Adrian's fault. But I am going to blame him. 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: That was my approach. Luckily we didn't have to go there. 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Continue No, it. 71 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: Was really good. It was a really good night. I 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: had a lot of fun. It was good to reconnect 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: with the fans. The fans really showed up there, you know, 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: for the draft party. It was really nice. It was good. 75 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: He got a heck of a reception. I mean, at 76 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: some point they had to tear you away because you 77 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: would have been there all night signing autographs. 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I tried my best to really get everybody, or 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: at least try to get the kids, you know, try 80 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: to get them, you know, signed up. But you know, 81 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: kind of got out of hand there towards the end, 82 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: so I had to kind of get up out of there. 83 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: But Craig, and this is really the benefit of finally 84 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: after nine hundred shows, getting Adrian Wilson into the studio 85 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: is that he really knows this draft class. 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 87 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: In fact, I made a few comments during the course 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: of the draft like, oh, that's a bad pick, and know, Paul, 89 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: you're wrong, and here's why. And then he gave me 90 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: a dissertation as to exactly why that team made that pick. 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: So go ahead, fire away, Craig, you got nine hundred 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: episodes worth the questions. Let's go, Let's go. 93 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: All right, Let's just start off when I say Walter 94 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Nolan defensive tackle Ole Miss before we get into what 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: we've heard from both MONI and JG and from Walter 96 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: himself when you turn on the tape, because that's all 97 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: we heard Thursday night was turn on the tape and 98 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: you'll see. What do you see when you turn on 99 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: the tape and look at Walter? 100 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: I saw explosiveness, I saw twitch, I saw quickness, ability 101 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: to penetrate. I thought I saw a guy that could 102 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: probably be an eight to ten sec guy in his 103 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: career in terms of being an interior pass rush. Sure, 104 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: but really starting out, I think he's going to be 105 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: in the rotation. But that rotation is going to consist 106 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 3: of Joshua Walter Nolan, either Kalaiz Campbell or somebody else 107 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: and Darius Robinson. Like that's a pretty good front four 108 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: to start with in terms of rushing the passer. So 109 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: his ability to really come in and really create havoc 110 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: in terms of getting the quarterback off the spot, that's 111 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: kind of what you need on the interior. And we 112 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: were lacking that here for some years. So having him 113 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: come in sixteenth pick, you know, come in and hopefully 114 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: he can he can learn under Klayiz, learn under those 115 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: veterans that's already in the room. 116 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do what I do best, and I'm gonna 117 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: play the dumb guy over here. I'm gonna post a 118 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: dumb guy question. How many defensive linemen can you feasibly 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: keep on a final fifty three? 120 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: It just depends on your scheme and just what you're 121 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: trying to get into, because obviously injuries do happen to 122 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: these guys, and you don't want to let go of 123 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: a player that could potentially help you in a rotation, 124 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: especially during our early parts of the season, until those 125 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: kind of guys get kind of pallased up after week 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: four or five and you can kind of like settle in, 127 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: settle into your rotation. But early on you want to 128 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: keep a few extra as opposed to a few less. 129 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: Because you know, Craig back in the day was a 130 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: huge fan of Extreme Makeover on HGTV, and that's what 131 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: this defensive front has been. I mean, you look at 132 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: the last few games of last year and they had 133 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: dudes off the street, They had guys off the practice squad, 134 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: guys they had cut in camp who they had to 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: bring back because of injuries. You talk about before and after. 136 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: I mean, what do you think the other teams in 137 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: the division are saying to themselves right now looking at 138 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: all the additions the Cardinals have made to the defensive front. 139 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean hopefully they see that they've added people 140 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: that they have to account for. And that's something when 141 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: you start to getting into game plan and you start 142 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: getting into matchups, this is exactly why you want a 143 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: four man rush, Like you can really line those guys 144 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: up and take advantage of different mismatches that may be 145 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: on the offensive line versus the defensive line. So being 146 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: able to have a guy, especially a young guy coming 147 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: in and sixteenth pick, he's able to kind of really 148 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: dictate in terms of his pass rush just because of 149 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: like he does have a lot of tools in his 150 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: two belt in terms of just his pass rush variety. 151 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Two years ago, defensive line was ravaged by injuries. Last season, 152 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: once again, injuries hit d line. So you're the point 153 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: eight of as far as Yeah, you don't want to 154 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: get rid of anyone that you believe could help you, 155 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: because as we speak here in April, things can change 156 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: between now and September. I look back and say, all right, yeah, 157 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: typically the first two years under Nick Ralis, this defense 158 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: has been a three man front, three to four alignment. 159 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: I could certainly see now with the personnel, things change 160 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe you do see more four defensive linemen, 161 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: maybe even five, and change it up a little bit 162 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: based off the personnel. Or are Nick Rolis and JG 163 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: setting their ways? No, this is our scheme three to four, 164 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: not anything else. 165 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't think they'll be setting their ways. 166 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: I do think that, you know, matchups play a big 167 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: part in the NFL, and when you have that three technique, 168 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: when you go back and you look at where he 169 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: came from, where JG came from in Philly, like they 170 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: had Fletcher Cox inside. They had a lot of guys 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: that could come off the edge, but Fletcher Cox was 172 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: that one guy that was on the interior that can 173 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: really pressure the quarterback. So being able to get somebody 174 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: like Walter that's at pick sixteen, you don't really need 175 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: to throw them into the start lineup right away, so 176 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: he can start as an interior DPR somebody that can 177 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: come in and really take you know, twenty to twenty 178 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: five plays until he's ready to go. And that may 179 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: be year two, but year one, he's definitely going to 180 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: be in the rotation in terms of the pass rush rotation, 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: So it could be a four man, it could be 182 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: a five man, you know, so he can get one 183 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: on ones across the board. 184 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 4: I mean, how often in the last two years was 185 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: Nick Rolis able to rush for and get home? 186 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: Not a lot. 187 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, if you want to boil it down 188 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,239 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, when the Cardinals have affected 189 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: the quarterback, it's been more about the when, the where, 190 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: the who, meaning you know, who's he going to dial up, 191 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: how many guys are coming, where's it coming from? What 192 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: happens if he can rush for and get home and 193 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: it just becomes how how can an opposing offensive line 194 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: stop four? Not unlike the Super Bowl right for the 195 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: Eagles didn't blitz once. Yeah, it's remarkable. Yeah what does 196 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: that do for a defense? And then we talked about 197 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: this on stage. Let's get back to that. What do 198 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: you think that does for the defense as a whole? 199 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: I mean front coverage, you know, in front coverage lines. 200 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: It really creates habit for the quarterback because the quarterback 201 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: has to read out the whole thing as opposed to 202 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: knowing where a blitz is coming from, and he may 203 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: have a sight or hot on one certain side. It 204 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: can get rid of it quick and the pressure never 205 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: gets on him, so he'll never get phased by that pressure. 206 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: That's why Kurt Warren always loved the plus exactly. 207 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: He loved it. He loved it. But when you have 208 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: a four man rush and you're playing max coverage behind 209 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: your four man rush, those windows are getting taken care of, 210 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: whether a zone or man. That quarterback can't sit back 211 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: there one, two, three and then let it go. It's three. 212 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: Maybe that window was open and then hopefully Josh Sweat's 213 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: coming in from his back stripsack. You know what I'm saying, 214 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: Like things like that could happen. Yeah, you know that 215 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: sounds good. Yeah. 216 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: With a Kalais Campbell, a Dalvin Tomlinson already in that room, 217 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: you've been a veteran with a rookie coming into the mix, 218 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: that relationship as far as the elder statesman all of 219 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: a sudden rising up the rookie to one day perhaps 220 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: taking their job at least uplifting their confidence as far 221 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: as yes, you can do it, here's how, and then 222 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: here's also how to be a pro. What's that? What's 223 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: that going to be like for Walter Well? 224 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: First and foremost, I mean, I think every veteran that's 225 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: in that room, they know that they can't play forever. 226 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: So all the things that you know, you've learned, all 227 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: the things that you know that you had to go 228 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: through in terms of like your lessons when you first 229 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: came in when you were young. Now it's time for 230 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: you to like pass that on to the next guy 231 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: that's inside of your room. And that's that's why I'm 232 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: happy that Clais is here. I'm happy that Devin Thomlinson 233 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: is here, Like I'm happy all those that guys are here, 234 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: because when you get a talent like this, him being 235 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: able to get into a routine and get into a 236 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: routine early on in his career and just be able 237 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 3: to really sharpen that routine up throughout the years. By 238 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 3: the time he get the year two and year three, 239 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: he has a nice routine going, but he's learned it 240 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: from like some really good vets and just being able 241 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: to come in and now he's the next one that's 242 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: gonna teach the next one likes That's how it's supposed 243 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: to play out. 244 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's media types. 245 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: Right. 246 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: We talk about leadership, and you know it kind of 247 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: comes in the form of like pep talks and words 248 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: of wisdom. How much of it just boils down to 249 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: setting a great example, just best practices. Just watching a 250 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: Buddha Baker work, watching James Connor work, watching Kalayis Campbell 251 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: and the commitment you know, at all times to his profession. 252 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: Some of it is just is just witnessing these guys 253 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: going about their craft. 254 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a good locker room. It's a 255 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 3: good locker room to learn from all those in the 256 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: work hard all of them are kind of committed to 257 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: the process in terms of kind of what they're trying 258 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: to build here and again, like I didn't get that 259 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: love from you, Paul. 260 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: Well or Craig Well one, we couldn't find you. 261 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: First of all, where's your own leadership at well? 262 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: We just never we never quite would you be the 263 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 4: guy laughing and smiling or would you be wearing the 264 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: black hat? You know, we just never knew, which you know, 265 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: do we approach him with a microphone or not that. 266 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was always okay? 267 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: What what? 268 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: What kind of mood is an here? On this particular day, 269 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: I mentioned off the top the white well, having actually 270 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: ate up on Cardinals cover two. And now we go 271 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: to the elephant in the room. What is with the 272 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: ten gallon hat and the John Dunn? Look, you know, 273 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: do you have a ranch in Montana? 274 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I have visited one. I don't 275 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: have one. 276 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: He's gone, he's gone glamping on one. 277 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I've you know, went back obviously, 278 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: we went back to North Carolina. I got you know, 279 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: got back to my roots a little bit, you know, 280 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: and you know, I just decided, you know what, let's 281 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: just switch it up. You know, let's bring the cowboy hat, 282 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: let's bring the cowboy boots, and let's just dress like 283 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: that all the time. I didn't do it last night. 284 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: I didn't want to do it last night. I didn't 285 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: want Paul to feel like awkward. 286 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, if you had, if you had brought a 287 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: hat for Paul and boots, that would have been a sight. 288 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah it would maybe next time. 289 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 4: Well, not everyone can pull it off. I thought I 290 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: had to do with your son playing at University of Texas. 291 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: But once again, I guess I'm dead wrong on that one. 292 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this about Walter on when you 293 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 4: watch his film and they talk about how hard he 294 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: plays and how many snaps he plays, the fact that 295 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 4: I'm guessing he's going to go what thirty snaps as 296 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: a rookie, how much does that benefit him? How much 297 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 4: can he just let it rip and just unleash it? 298 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the good part about coming into 299 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: a defensive line room that has depth. You can add 300 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: him into the rotation, add his youthfulness into the rotation, 301 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: and then just be able to kind of let him 302 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: loose in terms of having one on one matchups. Like, 303 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: that's what you want as a defensive coordinator. You want 304 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: to be able to have your your four or five 305 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: guys just depending on what your alignments are, being able 306 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: to have one on ones and create that mismatch wherever 307 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: it is. It could be Walter could be you know, 308 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: he could be a god that's a penetrator for Klay 309 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: is rapping around or vice versus with Darius Robinson, Like 310 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that can really go on 311 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: with him. Because he does have that skill set where 312 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: he can align anywhere from one to three to five 313 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: like he can he can go all over the defensive line. 314 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: So we've talked about Walter Nolan the player. How about 315 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Walter Nolan the person? First impressions the conference call on Thursday, 316 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: his introductory press conference here on Friday, we had him 317 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: here in studio Paul, and yeah, he is always with 318 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: a smile on his face. Doesn't say a lot, soft spoken, 319 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: but seems to just enjoy being an Arizona Cardinal, but 320 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: just ready to get to work and actions over words, 321 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: he's not far away from what you were as a footballer. 322 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: I mean, that's usually how it works. When you come 323 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: in you kind of get intimidated by the whole scene 324 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: of being drafted, coming into a building that you don't know. 325 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: But by all accounts, he's a great kid and he 326 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: has a huge heart, and that's something that you want 327 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: to have because he cares. You know, once he cares 328 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: about football, everything else will kind of take care of itself. 329 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: And that's the one thing that I love about the 330 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: kid is he like you can see it in his 331 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: face that he's happy to be here and he wants 332 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,239 Speaker 3: to make plays for the Cardinals. 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: I'm intrigued by the fact he's so young. He's twenty one, 334 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: but he was the number one high school recruit in 335 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: the nation. You know, he's at Texas A and M. 336 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: Then he's at Ole Miss, First team All SEC, first 337 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: Team All American. I mean, he's used to the spotlight, right, 338 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: He's used to expectations, So he should as opposed to 339 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: come up from like a small school, he should be 340 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: pretty equipped to meet the moment, shouldn't he. 341 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to your point, Paul, he was the 342 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: number one high school recruit in the country. He was 343 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: a part of the number one college recruiting class in 344 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: the country at Texas A and M. 345 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 346 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: So being able to be in that environment early on 347 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: understand kind of the pressures that comes with that. I 348 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: don't think that he's going to be overwhelmed being here 349 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: in terms of being an Arizona Cardinal playing in NFC West, 350 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: just being able to have an ability to really affect 351 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: the game. I don't think that's going to matter to him. 352 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: I think he's going to come in and he's going 353 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: to hit the ground running. 354 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: You know, alsome intrigued by here in twenty twenty five 355 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: is these front offices, these draft rooms from the NFL teams, 356 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: they're using nil as sort of a filter to determine. Okay, 357 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: wait a minute, a lot of these kids have already 358 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: been paid. They've been paid seven figures. Who still loves football? 359 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: Because we know all paramount that is with Mania support 360 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: and Jonathan Gannon. They want dudes who are all ball 361 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: And do you think it's actually a little easier now 362 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: to determine Okay, what are they going to be like 363 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: because they've already been paid. 364 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I do. I've seen it obviously, my 365 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: son's at Texas and I've seen it firsthand, which just 366 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: not only does the money. I'm not saying the money 367 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 3: hurts the player. What I'm saying is the love for 368 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: the game has to be number one. If the love 369 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: for the game isn't number one, you will find out 370 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: very quickly that it's going to be all about the money. 371 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: If these guys have transferred two, three, four times, so 372 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: the money can reveal absolutely whether the worst the worst 373 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: in the person. Interesting, Yeah, and so you've all it's 374 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: almost they've done part of the vetting process that NFL 375 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: teams used to struggle to do. It's kind of been 376 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: done for them in a way. Yeah, it has, it has, 377 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 3: And again I think, you know, the longer this nil 378 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 3: thing goes on, the longer that there's really no rules 379 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: around it, so to speak, it is going to kind 380 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 3: of get out of hand. Hopefully come July, you know, 381 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: the NC double Lake can really hammer down on some 382 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: of this stuff and cap that thing off a little bit. 383 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: Because it can, it can and will probably get out 384 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: of hand at some point. 385 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Are you hungry? And I think for a lot of 386 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: these prospects you're maybe not hungry anymore based off the 387 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: money that you have already made. But we do know 388 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: this to your you always say it, Paul, if you 389 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: don't do not love ball, if you don't have passion 390 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: for the game, it doesn't matter how good of a 391 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: player you might be, You're not going to fit in this. 392 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: Cardinal's locker room. And you know what, That's what I 393 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 4: like about. You know, I'll be honest with it. Nine 394 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: times out of ten. One here someone say that I 395 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: want to be the next Aaron Donald. I might be 396 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: a little apprehensive about that, but not in this case, 397 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: because he's chasing maybe the greatest modern day NFL defensive 398 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: player we have seen. So if he's truly chasing that, 399 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: there's always going to be a reason to get better 400 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: when he says I want to hang up my cleats 401 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 4: and be the best. If he truly means that, then 402 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 4: there's something driving him that goes way beyond a paycheck. 403 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I mean again to your point, going back 404 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: to the nil process, Like he probably has a little 405 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: bit of money in his pocket already. I'm not saying 406 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: that NFL type money, but he does have something that's 407 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: driving him to be better and it's not money, you know. 408 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: So again, he's a guy. I think he has a 409 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: point to prove because I do think he was a 410 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: top ten talent. Like talent wise, he is like top ten. 411 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: So to get there at sixteen, I'm pretty sure that 412 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: he probably has a little chip on his shoulder seeing 413 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: a couple of guys drafted ahead of him. 414 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the third defensive tackle off the board behind Mason 415 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Graham and Kenneth Grant. So we talk about his goal 416 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: to be the next Aaron Donald, and there's that fine 417 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: line between confidence and cockiness, and that's a lofty goal 418 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: yet ate up, it doesn't come across again, just the 419 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: first impression first meeting Walter that it doesn't sound like 420 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: it's an ego boost of his own. It's no, this 421 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: is a player that I see on film, I've watched, 422 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: I've studied that I kind of patterned my game after. 423 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: He's who I want to be. And I don't think 424 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that. 425 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: And yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, obviously, 426 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: comparisons are what scouts do you know, They're what gems 427 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: do you know? There's always in comparison to some player 428 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: that's out there. So for him to really, you know, 429 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: target Aaron Donald as being a guy that he wants 430 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 3: to be, like, I really do respect it. But at 431 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: the same time, like the work that comes with that, 432 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: the ability to affect games, like all the things that 433 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald was about, Like he has to be about 434 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: those things and he has to be about winning. And 435 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: I do think that that's what this kid is. 436 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: All right, you talk about comparisons, who do you see 437 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: when you see Walter Nolan on tape? 438 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, yesterday, it reminds me so much of Docket. 439 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: You know, Darnell was an undersized three technique that got drafted. 440 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: You know, he was two ninety two ninety five, you know, 441 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: at best, you know, during his good days. So you know, 442 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: having a guy that was quick, that could penetrate, that 443 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: can affect the interior of the pocket, like it just 444 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: helps your outside rushers out so much, like you're their 445 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: best friend because you're able to get penetration from the 446 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 3: inside to get that quarterback off the spot. 447 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: And Doc was nasty. 448 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: He was real nasty, real nasty. 449 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: I remember, man, he used to get under the skin 450 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 4: of the offensive lineman, those interior linemen, they would dread 451 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: going against him. 452 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. 453 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 4: And from what I can tell, Walter as that sort 454 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: of nasty in him a little bit. I mean the 455 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: whereason you know, he's going hard. Some of that stuff 456 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: he puts on film. He's not just stopping the run. 457 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 4: He's like he's finishing dudes off. 458 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he doesn't come off the field like That's 459 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 3: what I like about him so much. Like he plays 460 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 3: through injuries. He's probably a ninety percent playtime guy on 461 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: the defensive line. Like he plays a lot of snaps 462 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: for a defensive lineman, Like that is impressive to do 463 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: in the SEC. 464 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: On top of it, you think there's going to be 465 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: in a there's going to be an adjustment for him, 466 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: but going from that many snaps to twenty to thirty 467 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: snaps and be a part of a rotation as opposed 468 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: to being the guy like he was at all miss. 469 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it might actually help him more just to 470 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: be in the rotation early, you know, just to get 471 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: just to get his feet wet a little bit and 472 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: then build like build over time. You don't want to 473 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 3: throw too much too soon that a young player, But 474 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: at the same time, you do want him to go 475 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: out there and play and be free and not have 476 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: to think too much or worry about too much. You 477 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: want his natural athletic ability to come out, and I 478 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: do think they could have a plan for him to 479 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 3: do that. 480 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: What is the biggest challenge for a young three technique 481 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: young d lineman come from the college to the NFL game? 482 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: And I bring that up because I'm not sure Darius 483 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: Robinson got enough reps to navigate the learning curve completely yet. 484 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: And I bring up Braydon Fisk from the Rams, who 485 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 4: went thirty fifth overall, not far after Darius Robinson in 486 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: last year's draft. He had seven of his eight sacks 487 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: for the Rams in the second half of the season, 488 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: so it's almost like, Okay, he spent that first half learning, 489 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: Now I have a feel for this, let's go ball, 490 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 4: and that's exactly what he did into the playoffs. Darius 491 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: Robinson never had that chance because he's injured until the 492 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: final six games. What is it do you think is 493 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: the biggest challenge or biggest part of the learning curve 494 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 4: for a young D lineman. 495 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: I just think the college game is just so much 496 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: different than the program the pro game. I think everything 497 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: obviously in college is so spread out, and when you 498 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: get to the league, like everything is like condensed, everything 499 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: is like tighter. So him being able to kind of 500 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: see that early on, whether it's training camp, practice against 501 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: other teams in training camp, you know, the preseason games, 502 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: all those reps are going to really help him just 503 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: in terms of his ability to kind of affect the 504 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 3: pocket and how NFL teams play and use their blocking schemes. 505 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: Like that's something that a lot of defensive limbans, specially 506 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: come out of college nowadays, they have no clue because 507 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: they see so they see so much spread. Yep, you know, 508 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: they see so much spread. They see you know, four 509 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: or five receivers on the field, a whole bunch of 510 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: quarterback draws, So they don't get a lot of powers, 511 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: they don't get a lot of stutters, they don't get 512 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: like a lot of things that's going to come in 513 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: a run games. So early on, just let him get 514 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: his feet wet and then hopefully by the second half 515 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: of the season he can really take off. 516 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Especially in this division. 517 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: Right, just over the years, how many defensive linemen have 518 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: talked with reverence and respect for Kyle Shanahan's run game, 519 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 4: for Sean mcvay's run game, what Iron Williams has been 520 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: able to do, right, what the Seahawks want to do. 521 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: They fired their offensive coordinator after one year because they're 522 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: nearly dead last and running, and their new head coach, 523 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: Mike ran I, was like, no, and so we want 524 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: to run the ball with Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonay. 525 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, Darius Robinson and Walter Nolan, they're going 526 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: to find out what an NFL run game is all about. 527 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: In this division. 528 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean this division is loaded 529 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: with run game, you know, and those those are things 530 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: that you know, even when I was here, Yeah, it 531 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: was something that we you know, we always kind of 532 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: talked about doing the draft means was obviously we have 533 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: to worry about the run game in NFC West. 534 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: So Cardinals go defense with the first round pick, sixteenth overall. 535 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: As we speak here on this Friday, ahead of Day two, 536 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: second and third round, as we play general manager here, gentlemen, 537 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: what do the Cardinals do? Start with you, Adeb as 538 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: far as those second round pick and then in the 539 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: third round. 540 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think at some point, you know, they 541 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: have to obviously hit the offensive line interior offensive lineman 542 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: with either one of those picks, whether it's the second 543 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 3: round pick or a third round pick. And then you know, 544 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: you always want to try to get a corner, Like 545 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: at some point you know you want to try to 546 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: get a corner. You want to try to get those guys, 547 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: probably earlier in round two other than round three. 548 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can find if and this is saying 549 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: something because you're at forty seven, but if you could 550 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: maybe find an interior alignment who has a possibility, a 551 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: potential going out to tackle his second year and beyond, 552 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that would be an absolute home run. However, 553 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: if a Luther Burden fell, I mean that that would 554 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 4: be outstanding. I don't think he's going to fall the 555 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 4: way to middle of round two. But that's the one, 556 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: the one player, and it does come down to players 557 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: and talents and who's that left on the board where 558 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: I would say, you know what, I would elevate wide 559 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: receiver up, even though I consider it in terms of 560 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: need behind a line, behind corner, heck, even maybe behind 561 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 4: middle linebacker. You know, when John Campbell went to the 562 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 4: Eagles at the end of the round one, I was like, 563 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: dang it, I let out an expletive backstage, and then 564 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: you saw Donovan Jackson go I was thinking, oh, maybe, 565 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 4: just maybe the Cardinals might have a shot at the 566 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: iow State kid because Justin Frye. 567 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: Nope. 568 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: So those two guys, you know, but there's still some 569 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: really prominent ainge still on that board. 570 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: I still think it's Trench's just knowing what money likes 571 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: and how he's done it so far. Two years plus 572 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: now in that draft room, that offensive line, defensive line, 573 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: edge rusher, who's going to be that guy opposite Josh Wett. Yeah, 574 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: you've got Baron Browning, but that's a two year deal. 575 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: Can you find an edge rusher ad up that is 576 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: here for a half a dozen years? Or more to 577 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: be that Chandler Jones that's kind of been missing from 578 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: this defense. 579 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously you definitely want to draft those 580 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: types of guys, the guys that are at premium positions corner, 581 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: pass rusher, quarterback, receiver, tackle, those are the positions that 582 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: you want to draft because you don't want to address 583 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: those in free agency because of the money. The cap 584 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: hit on those guys are so huge. But being able 585 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: to have them drafted where you can control the contract 586 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: for five years, you have a Now you have a 587 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: better sense of Okay, this guy is gonna be a 588 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: long term guy for us, so we can just stend 589 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: him out. So that's what you're really looking forward to 590 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: in the dress, especially around two and three. 591 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: All Right, I'm gonna wear the black hat and I'm 592 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna put a adub to the test here. 593 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a name. 594 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: Let's see if he's got a scouter report, because this 595 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: is a name that has been mocked to the Cardinals 596 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: in Round two with a lot of popularity. Nick s 597 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: Gorton the edge out of Texas A and m I 598 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 4: was throwing names at him all day yesterday at the 599 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: draft party. He was giving me all these you know, 600 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: detailed scouter reports. What do you know about Nick s 601 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: Gorton and m Edge. 602 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like Nick. Nick. To me, Nick is an edge presidence. 603 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: He has size, he has length, he has the athletic 604 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: ability in terms of his first step quickness. He's a 605 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: beast against the run in my opinion, he can he 606 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: can really separate at the line of scrimmage because he 607 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: has length to see through blockers to the football. I 608 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: do think that he needs to work on his on 609 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: his strength in terms of the run game, and then 610 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: just adding to his two box his variety as a rusher. 611 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: A lot of these guys come out of college. That's 612 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: one of the main things that they're worried about really 613 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: in terms of just their rush variety because they're going 614 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: against Trent Williams, They're going against you know a lot 615 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: of these top Knights, Lane Johnson, a lot of top 616 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: notch tackle So just adding to your toolbox as a rusher, 617 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: especially as a rookie, those are things that you kind 618 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: of get into in terms of the process off season, 619 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: going into year two, off season, going into year three, 620 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: now year four, they have a full toolbox to work 621 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: with and pull from. 622 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: All right, Paul, since you threw out and now I'm 623 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: gonna throw nailed as well. Kind of. It's a name 624 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: though that you and I you had already mentioned off 625 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: air ADEB and that is again Walter's teammate cornerback tra Amas, 626 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: who had a thirty visit with the Cardinals. And you 627 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: keep talking about the need or you always look for cornerbacks. 628 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: What would the Cardinals be if all of a sudden 629 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: they're on the clock, second round, third round, and Trey 630 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: is on the board. 631 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about a six foot wanting to 632 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: have six foot two corner that has pressed skills. I 633 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: mean not just a guy that just lines up in 634 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: front of a receiver two yards in front of him. No, 635 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: he has press skills, meaning he's going to jam, He's 636 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: gonna stay on this guy. He's gonna play things from 637 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: the top down. He has the top speed to run vertically, 638 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: he has ball skills, he's tough, and he tackles. To me, 639 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: that sounds like a JG. Pick. He does. 640 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm not familiar with him. Trey Amos, Yeah, Ole 641 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: miss all miss, And honestly, there aren't very many true 642 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: press corners left it's not. 643 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: I mean when you look at last year's draft when 644 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: they took Max, Max and Trey, to me, they're very 645 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: similar in skill set. Both guys are long, rangy guys 646 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: that excels and press, but they're tough and they tackle. 647 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: Those are the two things that you have to realize 648 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: in defenses. If your corners don't tackle, your defense isn't good. 649 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: It's the bottom line. 650 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: Because offenses just keep running to that side. 651 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: That's it. 652 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: They keep targeting that corner. And yeah, no, you're right, 653 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: I mean, j g uh. You know the rules are simple, 654 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 4: but you know, look all ball, you better be all 655 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: about football. If you're a receiver, you know, no block, 656 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 4: no rock, It's just the way it is. And then 657 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: you're right, the corners better tackle. You know, you'll be 658 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: on the sideline standing next to the head coach. 659 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: You've got to be physical to be on this team 660 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. If you want to 661 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: play for Jonathan Cannon. Ad this was this was a pleasure. 662 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for you, but I certainly 663 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: hope this wasn't a one and done here on Cardinals coverage. 664 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope not. You know, let's hope not. Let's 665 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: let's hope the powers that be bring me back and 666 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: you know, we can run this thing back one more time. Maybe. 667 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: Well, there's see, there's always there's always that. 668 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 3: That maybe with you, it's like I want to sit 669 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: in the middle. Well, you know, Paul sitting in the middle. 670 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: I mean, Craig, when you're bringing up when you're bringing 671 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: up Herman Melville, okay, and and Moby Dick and White Whale. 672 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: I mean, now I gave him something to work on, 673 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 4: and he's got some Yeah, he's got some homework. I 674 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: don't know what that was. I feel I'm back in 675 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: an English Lit class in college. I mean, we're talking 676 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: ball here, Craig. Can you knock it off with great 677 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: you know American authors? Stop it next time? Can you 678 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: bring a hat for Paul? 679 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: Sure? Absolutely? 680 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, Okay, that's it. 681 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: There we go. Now we're done. 682 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: There's the mic. Now we're ron on that note, we 683 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: will put all in on this edition of Cardinals Cover 684 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: two presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 685 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mama Hundre, 686 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: our associated producer Coddy Fincher, special thanks to Alex Greenberg 687 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: as well for Adrian Wilson, Paul CoV C, I'm Craig Real. 688 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two. 689 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be nine hundred shows till I'm back.