1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 4: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 4: It is Thursday, December fifth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: episode number eighty. Welcome to the latest edition of The 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 4: Break We Hear Live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: the Star, presented by LGLG is the world's number one 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: O led TV brand for eleven years in counting. See 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: why at LG dot com. Forward slash o leed Evo. 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: Like Derek some money, some funds? Please? 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: Do I need to just do my cash? Yeah? And 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 4: just sayun your money if you'd like to get helped. 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Thought her discussions are outstanding. What you say, oh f 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: she was trying to do the old Yeah, what do 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: you know about what you know about that? What do 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: you know about that? Right? Hey, I'm trying to get 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: your art sold, That's what I'm trying. There no anywhere 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: this check. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: Out just off the rails of thirty check out check out. 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 3: Her art show. 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 5: More your football seconds to know what that was? 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: Sixty one year old man? 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: Wow, oh, I'm crying all right right here, Brian. 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: Let's go. 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: All right. 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: That was a good, good laugh to start. 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: Your boss looked at you. What do you know about that? 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 5: I'm literally crying right now. Well, okay, cowboy. 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: How many pieces you got now that you're trying to like, 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: I don't even say get rid of, but you're trying 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: to see if someone wants. 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: She's got some really good cowboy pieces too. 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 5: I don't know. I I have some hanging around the house, 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: and I rid of. 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 4: If someone wanted to buy it, Oh yeah. 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 5: At the right price, right, But no, I still have 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 5: quite a few. I just thought I should probably start 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 5: putting it out there again because it's been a long time. 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: It was like since before that was the one and 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 5: done I wanted. I did it for the experience, so I. 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: Thought it was cool. The first time I ever went 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: to an arch show, and I thought it was cool. 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 5: It was a lot of work put into it, so. 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: Booze it up. Thought art shows are right, stand around, 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: talk about it and. 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 5: Drink Hey, you hooked me up with some wine. 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben Glazier, Yeah, good deal. 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 4: All right, let's let's talk some Cowboys for ball. We're 56 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: gonna talk about We got to catch up on some injuries. 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: There are a lot of guys that although there was 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: no official injury report yesterday, there were lots of reports 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: that were coming out about different guys and where they 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: are as far as injuries are concerned. Then we'll get 61 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: into some discussions on the Cincinnati defense versus the Cowboys offense. 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: We got some questions lined up from the fans that 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: we will get to and I would love to take 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: some phone calls, So give us a call eight eight 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: eight eight five five two two ninety seven. Again it 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: is eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven. 67 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 4: Our trusty producer Chris Ban will get you lined up 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 4: and uh, you can call us any time and we'll 69 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: jump on and take some calls. 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: Sure we are full of jokes today. 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, Okay, let's it. 72 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: We'll just ring for forty five minutes. Let's go. Let's go. 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: Let's catch up on some of these injuries. I'm gonna 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: throw out a name. You guys tell what you've heard 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: about them. Where with the where are we with DeMarcus Lawrence? 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: Uh? 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Does not sound like he's gonna go this week. 78 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 7: He did not have his practice window activated yesterday he 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 7: would have needed that, but continuing rehab work this week 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 7: and we'll probably be revisiting that come come Tuesday or Wednesday. 81 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: All right, Zach Martin. 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was. It's funny real quick. I 83 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: mean I was just happened to be walking down the 84 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: hallway and looked out there and just took it, you know, 85 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: seeing how the weather was, and he happened to be 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: working out. But there was some good work. I mean 87 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: he it was Britt Brown and him are getting after. 88 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 3: Britt will get after. We all know that. Yeah, so, 89 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: but yeah, I was, man, I just from a scouting evaluation. 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: I was really encouraged by the things that Britt was 91 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: kind of having Tom do as I was walking and 92 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: was watching the lateral drills and stuff like that. It 93 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: was very, very very promising though. 94 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: All right, Zach Martin. 95 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 7: Zach Martin, it looks like they're just getting him back 96 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 7: on schedule. He did not practice yesterday, but taking that 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 7: veteran day as I think they're going to try to 98 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 7: be as as cautious as possible with him for the 99 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 7: rest of the season, and rightfully so. Yesterday was a 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 7: walk through, so it was very light day, so there 101 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 7: was no reason to put Zach out there. Today will 102 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 7: be the big threshold for Zach Martin, but I think 103 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 7: he's gonna be ready to go Monday. 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 5: Nominated for Men of the Year award. 105 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: Sure did did outstanding achievement for him, As it is 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: for all the different teams they put out. Every team 107 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: will have one nominee from their roster that then makes 108 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: it to one of the thirty two and then they'll 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: have one winner for the entire league. So Cowboys have 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: now four or three. 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: Four three three, Roger Staubach, Troy Aman, Uh and then 112 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Dak And when Chase went won, Chase went, Chase. 113 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: Went yeah, yeah, Okay, it's right. 114 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 3: Four yeah, so Starbuck eight, Men, Witten, Dak got it. 115 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: So they have four right now and Uh and Zach 116 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: Martin is the nominee for this year. All right, cool, 117 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: let's talk about Trayvon Trayvon Dick. 118 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: Sorry, I do walk by it. Really, That's the only 119 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: reason I knew. I walked by it every day, and 120 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh there, Okay, Okay, Yeah, Uh, the fact 121 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: that he practiced I think was encouraging or they mock game. 122 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: You know, I got fooled by that one time, the 123 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: old mock game, you know, thinking it was really a game, 124 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: not it's it's bucket hats and shorts, but. 125 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: Mock underware Olympics. 126 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was encouraged. Yeah, they did mock me. 127 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: It was encouraging though that. 128 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 5: He was part of that. 129 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: So keeping an eye on there, keeping an eye on 130 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: that one. But they the fact that he at least 131 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: has been at least he was part of that was 132 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: something that they say that that was a step in 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: the right direction because they have the extra day. 134 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 4: Honestly, of all these names, that's the one that I 135 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: think is most critical this weekend. Obviously with the matchups 136 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: you got there on the outside, getting Trayvon Dicks back 137 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: will be huge I think for this week. 138 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, speaking of the cornerback position, they signed two guys 139 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 7: to the practice squad yesterday and Dee Delaney and Troy Pride. 140 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 7: Both of those guys have been in the league roughly 141 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 7: five six years. They worked at Xavier Howard, the former 142 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 7: All Pro for the Miami Dolphins, sounds that sounds like 143 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 7: a situation where the price would be a little too 144 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 7: high to to justify keeping him around for only five weeks. 145 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 7: And it's not like there's a roster spot available, more 146 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 7: so a practice squad spot. 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: So all right, catch me up on Amani or a war. 148 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, so he was had his practice window activated yesterday 149 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 7: back on the practice field and was he was. He 150 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 7: was moving around, you know, just like anyone else during 151 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 7: the Mott game. But not really sure as far as 152 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 7: availability goes. But that is a corner spot that they 153 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 7: will need with with Josh Butler going down, Kayln Carson's 154 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 7: gone on ir so it's kind of being left to 155 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 7: Keemon hall Amni or a warrier if he can make 156 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 7: it back, to try and figure out that other corner 157 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 7: spot opposite of Deron Bland if if Dix can't go, 158 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 7: or if they need someone to come in in the 159 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: event of injury. 160 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: Right even if Diggs can go, you're gonna need that 161 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: other guy just to yeah, just have safety, some safety 162 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: in case in case of injury. 163 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 7: And also is Roe mkwamam I keep forgetting to factor 164 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: him and he's just kind of that chess piece you 165 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 7: can move around in the secondary. 166 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: And he hasn't been bad either. 167 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: I think I don't think what he is like. 168 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: He is a he's a guy's kind of a twiner 169 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: between corner and safety. But I think he's been fine 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: at the at the corner position. As much as they've 171 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: had to play him. 172 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 7: I'm surprised they haven't valued him more, and not to 173 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 7: say that maybe they've just valued maybe that's the wrong word. 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 7: I used him more, just because he is so versatile. 175 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 7: We've seen him play multiple roles. We've seen him play 176 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 7: nickel outside safety when dan Quinn was here, we saw 177 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 7: him play in that kind of rover safety role that 178 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 7: jen Ron Curse got used to playing in. He's a 179 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 7: very versatile defender and he's good. He's a good defender. 180 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 7: It's not like he's a liability out there. I think 181 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: there's been times in the past where you put that 182 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 7: depth corner out there, you put that depth dB up there, 183 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 7: and you're like, oh, boy, hold on to your breeches. 184 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 7: But this isn't I don't think it Israel mcwamu was 185 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 7: one of those situations. 186 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: The fact that he plays well enough in the nickel 187 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: at a slot and they could put Lewis on the 188 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: outside should tell you something a little bit, yep, because 189 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: usually trying to move Lewis out of the slot is 190 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: something you probably don't want to do very much. But 191 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: they've they've found a way though with mcwalmu to play 192 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: him inside a little bit and him be okay, and 193 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: that's allowed Lewis to play on the outside, which you know, 194 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: me personally, I hadn't seen Lewis play on the outside 195 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: since the Michigan days. 196 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know, it's really wild to me. 197 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: And you know, all of a sudden, Glenn like, yeah, 198 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: you're seeing your guy out, You're seeing him, You're seeing 199 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: number two outside, and you're like, okay, they're doing this 200 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: just because they're really really banged up, but it's actually 201 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: kind of become something that they can go to. It's 202 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 3: a little bit of a change. Lewis playing on the outside. 203 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: It seems like they're trying to attack him with a 204 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: vertical ball and he's like well, and you know, well 205 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: in step and hanging in there and so yeah, it's 206 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: but I think that says something about mccuamu because me personally, 207 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: if I was a coach, I'd never moved Jordan Lewis 208 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: out of the slot. Just wouldn't do it. He's just 209 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: too good at that spot. But they've they've kind of 210 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: figured it out. 211 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 4: As much as you guys evaluate talent for the draft show, 212 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: give me like it seems to me like the body 213 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: type of somebody like mccuam who typically doesn't do well 214 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: in the slot. Is that an accurate statement. 215 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, it just takes that typically happened like that's that 216 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 7: seems rare. It takes those guys longer to move their bodies, 217 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 7: and that you have to be able to move quickly 218 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 7: in the slot. You have to be able to carry 219 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 7: the field. Yeah, you got so that Bean Beyonce hips that. 220 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: Pretty quick flexibility. Anyway, I would have gone with Shakura 221 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: either or either or. 222 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: Like I never know, I gotta go. Look now, I 223 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: didn't realize she did. 224 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: Their hips that this is this is Houston people. 225 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: You know, people can't they're talking about No, it's not 226 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: that it's like I just that's not something I've ever 227 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: really heard about her. 228 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: But I'm just I'll go. 229 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: Check it out. 230 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,359 Speaker 3: Do you feel. 231 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: That I'm not saying I'm gonna do anything. 232 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 5: I just want to see. 233 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: Anyway, we're off the subject to get back to the subject. 234 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: But that is I guess my point is with that 235 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: body type, is that tell you like he has a 236 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: little rare, rare ability there as a leggy guy. As 237 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: you mentioned. 238 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: See, that's that's the problem ideally what you do when 239 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: you have tall guys. And Will Johnson, who will talk 240 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 3: about from Michigan is another one of these guys. It's 241 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: one of the highly rated corners. He's six two. People 242 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: will say, oh, he's a little bit leggy in his turn, 243 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: meaning it takes him when he pedals and then has 244 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: to turn. It takes in that to have to pick 245 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: up his leg instead of just flipping, you have to 246 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: pick it up and then get it go in the 247 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: right direction. So that's what that's what happens a little 248 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: bit what they talk about with Micuamu. He's a little 249 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: bit he's able to kind of stay in balance and 250 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: then turn quickly to get to where he needs to be. 251 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: So he's not as leggy as your normal six ' 252 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: two six y three type corners that. 253 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: You see just another reason why it is a travesty 254 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: that Darren Woodson ain't in the Hall of Fame yet 255 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: at his size, not only leggy, but just a big 256 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 4: guy to be able to play the slot the way 257 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 4: he did for all those years. I mean, it's amazing 258 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: to me. He's not in the Hall of Fame. But 259 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: hopefully this is his year. 260 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 5: Huh. 261 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: Let's let's hope. So, I mean, what's weird to me? 262 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: I was at the super Bowl with him and his 263 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: wife after the after he you know, it was the 264 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: super Bowl. We were in Phoenix and he missed out again, 265 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: and his wife and I we were both like cussing 266 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: up a storm right there in the terminal there in 267 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport. We're just cussing, cussing, cussing about 268 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: the thing. Darren walks up, like, what are you two doing? 269 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: Just stop? Stop this, you know. I'm like, why it's 270 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: a you know, and then I drop an F bomb 271 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: and say something about, you know, why he should be 272 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: I go, I was with Roy Butler he's not, you know, 273 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: and I was going on and on and on. His 274 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: wife's like, yeah, tell him, Brian, tell him what you know. 275 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: But Darren's just like, man, just relax, both you relax. 276 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: But that's Darren Woods who is That's I mean, he's 277 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: not going to make it about him. And you know, 278 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: I was getting more mad than he was and so, 279 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: but that's the kind of guy he is. He just 280 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: was like, Hey, it's fine, it'll be fine, don't worry 281 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, And I'm like, no, I want to 282 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: worry about it, you know. 283 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: But extremely high character person. 284 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: Really high character. My favorite player I've ever been around, 285 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: all the guys I've ever been around, my favorite player 286 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: by far. 287 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely all right, get this up on Tyler Guiden. What 288 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: are we hearing about him here? 289 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: In high ankle sprain? 290 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 8: There? 291 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: I would expect you when you don't go to start 292 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: on Sunday and that's. 293 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: High ankle sprain? Is that it for him for this year? 294 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: Because high ankle's brains take several weeks, right, Yeah, that's 295 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: not easy. 296 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 7: They're not putting him on on IR just yet. I mean, 297 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 7: they haven't until Sunday just it would be still be Sunday, 298 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 7: right because it would be the game a day before 299 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 7: the game. They until Sunday to do that if they, 300 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 7: if they feel it that's necessary. But yeah, it's definitely 301 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 7: not happening this week. 302 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: Definitely not Yeah, but definitely a high ankle sprain, not 303 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 4: a regular ankle sprain. Or is that what we're just 304 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: kind of it. 305 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Was very strange. It was very strange how he like 306 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: he got injured and you watch it and it wasn't 307 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: like he got rolled up on. It's almost like a 308 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: basketball injury where he stepped on it, stepped on scoon 309 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: Maker's foot and it kind of messed him up. But 310 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: he didn't get you know, your there and knee and 311 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: ankle and you you didn't see him get hit from 312 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: the side or rolled up on. It was just like 313 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 3: you know sometimes when a shooter goes up and they 314 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: come down on a defender's foot in it there. I mean, 315 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: that's kind of I think what happened to him. And 316 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: then he tried to come back. They were playing with 317 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: the doga. They kicked a field goal or an extra 318 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: point and they had him in attack and he couldn't 319 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: put any weight on the left foot, you know, and 320 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: you're like going, okay, well now he has hurts, because 321 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: you could tell he was favoring it. But it was 322 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: a really strange injury for you know, it was usually 323 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: these linemen get rolled up or you know, something happens 324 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: when they get caught up, but this one wasn't that one. 325 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: What are we hearing about? Ceedee Lamb Brandon Cooks. I 326 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: don't think either were at the open part of practice. 327 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, as far as Cooks goes just continuing, he came 328 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 7: out well after what was that last Thursday. The big 329 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 7: break is going to help both of those guys. I 330 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 7: think if CD was operating on a normal week, it 331 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 7: probably would have been a lot closer for him. But this, 332 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 7: this extended break's going to help him. Today's going to 333 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 7: be a big indicator though, for both of those guys, really, 334 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 7: but more so CD. 335 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: All right, let's take our first break. 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A couple of things that 396 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: stood out to me initially. They are twenty six. They 397 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: have a twenty six ranked defense in the NFL. They 398 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: are thirty thirty first in points allowed, but they're also 399 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: thirtieth in sacks. They're not getting a lot of sounds 400 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: with only twenty one when that being sick. That's what 401 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 4: I was going to say. Who is the best pass 402 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 4: rusher and what does he typically line up? 403 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels like Trey Hendrickson is about eighty five 404 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 7: percent of what their pass rushes and if he's not 405 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 7: getting home, there's not a whole lot elsewhere. He's leaving 406 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 7: the NFL with eleven and a half sacks, but everything 407 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 7: else crazy. 408 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, eating NFL and the team is thirty first. 409 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 7: And everyone else on the team he's nine and a 410 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 7: half combined. So yeah, that that pass rush has not 411 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 7: been a phenomenal. I've seen them line up more so 412 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 7: from the right side. I'll find the snap counts on 413 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 7: his right. 414 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: Side, on the defensive their right side. 415 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, every one of his socks has been from the 416 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: right side. So my my gut feeling is it's a 417 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: chumadoga day. And so that's. 418 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: Talk to me about that matchup. What you've seen from Chuman, 419 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 4: what you know Hendrix. 420 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: This is where this is where Hendrickson kind of is 421 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: a problem is because he is capable. Some of these 422 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: guys are really good at just going outside outside, outside, outside. 423 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: This guy does a really good job of setting you 424 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: up and he's not a get way up the field rusher, 425 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: and then you push him past the quarterback guy he is. 426 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: He's he he. 427 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: He kind of You could tell he does film study 428 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 3: because he's rushing at the level of where the quarterback's playing. 429 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: A lot of the time, like if a quarterback's a 430 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: little bit deeper of a dropper, you could see he adjust. 431 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: If he's a little bit more shallow in the pocket, 432 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: you could see he's there. But he is going to 433 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: do He's going to rush off how he feels the 434 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: offensive tackles playing him So if a doga keeps white set, whiteset, whiteset, 435 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: that thing's coming back inside. And he's strong enough and 436 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: he's got this this technique. And I know, Nick, if 437 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: you were saying when you watch him play hands, slap 438 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: and grab and pushing power, like yeah, when you try 439 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: and kind of sit when he when he's going to 440 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: get the edge, it's the edge. When he's going to 441 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: go inside, it's all power. He's like, Okay, I'm going 442 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: to take you to the quarterback. The Raider game, I mean, 443 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: he destroyed the Raiders. I think he had four sacks 444 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: in the game. It was crazy. But the Raiders were 445 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: struggling with their their left tackle spot and he just 446 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: took advantage of that. So Adoca's got to be ready 447 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: for that that he's going to always get to where 448 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: Cooper Rush is going to be. Don't if you think 449 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: you're going to push him past Heck, you might push 450 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: him into Cooper Rush because you know most. 451 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: Of you are going to be so flat. 452 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be so flat, and all of a sudden, 453 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: you're pushing him thinking he's going to he's going to 454 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: go by. Nah, you got to be You've got to 455 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: make sure, you stay with him, you just can't shove 456 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: him and hope that he's going to go to why 457 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 3: But he's also got to worry about the inside rush. 458 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: Here's the splits. 459 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 7: He's played five hundred and sixty six snaps this season, 460 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 7: he has only played four. 461 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: On the left side of the defensive line. 462 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 7: So yeah, this is a pretty clear where he's going 463 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 7: to be. Yeah, yeah, I think I think of this one. 464 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 7: This is the only guy I'm worried about on this defense. 465 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 7: I would have said their linebacker and Logan Wilson, but 466 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 7: they just lost him for the season. Coming into this week, 467 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 7: they're gonna have some that they're gonna have some things 468 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 7: to figure out in that second level. He was a 469 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 7: really good run defender for them. But if I'm the 470 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 7: Cowboys offense, i am leaning on Rico Dabdle. I'm giving 471 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 7: him twenty twenty five carries and I'm saying, hey, you 472 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 7: need to go win the time of possession battle because 473 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 7: you need to keep the ball out of that offensive hands. 474 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 7: If they can do that, then it's why the Bengals 475 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 7: have had struggles this year is because this defense just 476 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 7: stays on the field and it shortens the game. 477 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: And Nick makes an excellent point because I was curious 478 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: about their run defense. They're really good at the line 479 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: of scrimmage and behind the line of scrimmage, but teams 480 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: get yards after contact on them. So they've they're very 481 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: good at contact at or beyond or behind the line 482 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: of scrimmage. They just don't get the guy initially down 483 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: on the ground. That's the problem that they've struggled with 484 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: when the running game. Now, I'll tell you another thing, 485 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: and this is something I think is very very telling 486 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: about this defense running the football or running the football 487 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: against him. Six of their thirteen games they've they've the 488 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: opponent has rushed the ball thirty times. Thirty times in 489 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: six of their thirteen games. The Bengals record is won 490 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: in five. It was the only game they lost. The 491 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: only game they won was the Giants game. They won 492 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: that game seventeen to seven. But every other game where 493 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: the opponent has rushed the ball more than thirty times, 494 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: they've lost that football game. So you know, can you 495 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: with with no Logan Wilson him Jermaine Pratt. I think 496 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: Jermaine Pratt is an okay player too. For their linebacker, 497 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: I think losing Wilson is really going to hurt them 498 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: in this situation because I kind of feel like, okay, 499 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: if Dallas gets into that mode where they you know, 500 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: and and Dallas has had their share of struggles running 501 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: the football we all see, but the last two weeks 502 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: they seem to have found something here. They seem to 503 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: have found a little bit of you know, with with rico' 504 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: daddle and his ability. But I'm with Nick, I'm committed 505 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: to running the football this game and seeing if the 506 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: Bengals can stop the run. 507 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 4: When you mentioned yards after contact, yeah, it appears to me. 508 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: And I don't have the numbers on this, I'm sure 509 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: we could probably look it up. It doesn't appear to 510 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: me that Dallas has a type of run game that 511 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 4: really drives on getting a lot of yards after contact. 512 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 4: Is that an accurate assessment? 513 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: And is so? 514 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: Do they have the ability to take advantage of this 515 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: perceived weakness for Cincinnati? 516 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't qualify Rico Dawdle as a slippery runner 517 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 7: no physical Yes, and can fight forward for an extra 518 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 7: few yards you know, after contact. He's good about falling 519 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 7: forward rather than falling side or falling back. But I 520 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 7: wouldn't necessarily say this is an offensive running game that 521 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 7: is prone to missing tackles and making guys miss. 522 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: Just to give you a point of reference, because I 523 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: put it in my notes for my pregame show, and 524 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: the Bengals have allowed thirty yards of yard of yards 525 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: after contact in the running game, and just for a 526 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: point of reference, Dallas has allowed forty eight. So we've 527 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: all seen Dallas play and how it seems like, oh god, 528 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: it's just they can't get the guy on the ground. 529 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: You know, the last couple of weeks they've done a 530 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 3: really good job on defense of getting guys on the ground. 531 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: The defense has but overall it seemed like, man, they're 532 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: not they're not They're not winning at the point of attack. 533 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: They're not tackling. So that just gives you an idea. 534 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: If you think Dallas has struggled stopping people at the 535 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage or beyond the line of scar behind 536 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, the Bengals have been just as bad. 537 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 3: So that you know, Dalla is kind of a run 538 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: and just blast into people and if he bounces off, 539 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, he's not going to sit there and 540 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: spin and do all those things. But we've seen enough 541 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: of him. Knowing though, if arm tackles don't always get 542 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: him down, you know he's got you got to kind 543 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: of wrap him up because he's going to kind of 544 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: fall forward in the by the way, just to let 545 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, Ambar, Detroit Lions have only allowed six six 546 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: hundred and seven yards after contact this year to running backs. 547 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: It's first in the league. And you know, so Dallas 548 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 3: is allowed twice as many yards after contact. And then 549 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: what the Detroit Lions had. 550 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 7: We got some breaking news. If I could hop in 551 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 7: really quick, good or this is it's not good. Zach 552 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 7: Martin is having season ending ankle surgery. According to UH 553 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 7: head coach Mike McCarthy. That just came down, all. 554 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: Right, So I guess the conversation we had earlier this 555 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: week about brock Kaufman. Hey, it's times. Let's see. 556 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: What's that you were so insistent of going with brock Kaufman. No, 557 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: I was you know something already? 558 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: No? 559 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. I I knew. We all knew 560 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: how banged up he was. I mean, we all we 561 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: talk about it every day. Derek asked his injury report, 562 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: and you know, and I I to me, I was worried. 563 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 3: I was thinking that that coaches are very much about 564 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: processing a system and keeping things the continuity of things. 565 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 3: You've run the ball well, you've protected well. A healthy 566 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: body at right guard has been one of the reasons 567 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 3: why Zach wasn't healthy. It just wasn't healthy enough to play. 568 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 5: Y'all feel we already saw the end. 569 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: No, I just I have a hard time. I thought 570 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 4: all the way up till this point that this might 571 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: have been the last year for him. I just now 572 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: I have a hard time thinking he's gonna want to 573 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 4: go out end his career on IR. And that makes 574 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 4: me wonder if he's like a guy I want, I 575 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: want one more shot at this. Yeah, you know, I 576 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: mean that's a hard thing to do when you've played 577 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: as long and as great as he has to be, Like, 578 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to end my career on IR. Like, I 579 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: think that's just a hard thing to do. 580 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: And we'll see, or he could look at it this way, 581 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: is I need to get fixed and now I need 582 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: to go on with my life. Maybe. Yeah. What I 583 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 3: what I hope doesn't happen is that all of a 584 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: sudden he gets fixed and the Cowboys say, we're not 585 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: going to pay your salary anymore and move on, and 586 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: then he goes in place somewhere else that I wouldn't 587 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: like very much. 588 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 4: There's a lot to consider here, but but yeah, that's 589 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: sad news for somebody at that caliber that he's now 590 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: on ir And you know, it is at that point 591 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 4: where every year is a are you going to come back? 592 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 4: Like that's a part of the conversation. He's even made 593 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: it a part of the conversation. He's talked about it. 594 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: So I think this. 595 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: Year was really, really, really tough on him. And as 596 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: we all have said many a day, father Time is undefeated. Yep, 597 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: And there's a side of me that there's a side 598 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 3: of me that now is really wondering, are you just 599 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: getting fixed? So you can say goodbye? You know that 600 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: we could bring everybody, we could have a press conference, 601 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: and he could stand up there and thank everybody for 602 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: you know, the opportunity he had and then move on, 603 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 3: kind of like what Travis Frederick did. Yeah, you know, 604 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 3: Travis Frederick kind of realized that he saw the end. 605 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 3: He wasn't his Travis Frederick allpro center anymore. He was 606 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: kind of a shell of that, and he said no, 607 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm done, and I wonder if Zack Martin's kind of 608 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: in the same way that you know, Hey, I give 609 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: it the best I could, you know, this year, and 610 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: I just got too banged up and happen to get 611 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: ready to play. You know, these seasons are they're tough 612 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: on guys like that, very tough. 613 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: Real quick. 614 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: Before we take our break, our final break, tell me 615 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: about the weakness of your past defense. If you look 616 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: at the back end of their of their defense, where 617 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: are the weakness is where the Taylor I feel. 618 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: Like it's really everywhere. To be honest, it really is. 619 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: And I I look at Taylor Britton. There's up and 620 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: downs there. But I could say that for everybody. 621 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 7: I mean, this is a young defense, not only in 622 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 7: the past defense, but they went and got three rookie 623 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 7: defensive tackles. They got a rookie linebacker, they have a 624 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 7: rookie starting at corner and Josh Newton. 625 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: Out of TCU. 626 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 7: There's a there's a lot of youth on this on 627 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 7: this defense, and it's they've kind of thrown them in 628 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 7: the deep end and they haven't really been treading water. 629 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: Well. 630 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 7: I feel like there's gonna be a lot of opportunities 631 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 7: in the second area. They just have to keep Trey 632 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 7: Hendrickson from regular shot in this game. 633 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: If they can keep him over there and hilt back 634 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: like they've only got one guy, I'm like, just double him. 635 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: You speaking of a tight end, this might be a 636 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: game This team plays a lot of single high safety, 637 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: a lot of single high safety. And if that's the case, 638 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: then now we've seen with Ferguson, I know it was 639 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: Ferguson and Dac with those seam routes and stuff like that, 640 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: maybe this is one of those games where you can 641 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: kind of get Ferguson going once he gets back that 642 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: you could throw some steam routes on that single high stuff, 643 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: or get somebody in the slot that can play vertically 644 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: that can do that against this group. I kind of 645 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: feel like that Mike Hilton the nickel is another guy 646 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: you can go after. So the two guys I would 647 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: think about the most here is Cam Taylor britt he 648 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: wears number twenty nine, and then Mike Hilton, he's number 649 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 3: twenty one in the nickel. Those are two guys. Just 650 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: block the front like we always talk about and attack 651 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: those guys from the jump. 652 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, my guess would be I would expect to see 653 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: a lot of twelve personnel and a lot of twenty 654 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: one personnel. 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At the press conference for Mike McCarthy right 732 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 7: now said that Zach Martin will quote take a step 733 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 7: back before deciding on his future, and Mike also said, 734 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 7: we're not going to replace Zach Martin. 735 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: He brings so much to the team. 736 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, wild that is that is that's that's sad news. 737 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: But well we'll see how it goes and hopefully whatever 738 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: the decision is that Zach makes good for him and 739 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: his family first and foremost. We want whatever's good for him, 740 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 4: so see how that goes. 741 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 3: He was a lot of fun to interview last year, 742 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: Like in a week we got at him. 743 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 13: Yeah. 744 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories about him was, I tell 745 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: you the story about his when he won that trophy 746 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: in the bowl game. He woulded he wanted like he was. 747 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: He was, and he was going to m v P 748 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: of a bowl game. Yeah, the MVP of a bowl game, 749 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: and they had the trophy, was right across the lake 750 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: to go visit like friends, and he had the trophy 751 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: in the boat and it fell out into the water 752 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: and they didn't even go to his cap. He's like, well, 753 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: I was going to share the trophy, but it's in 754 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 3: the bottom of the lake. I'm like, you didn't even 755 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: think about jump. He goes, nah, heck no, no, I 756 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: didn't think about it. 757 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: It's crazy at the bottom of the of a bowl. 758 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: He was, Yeah, he was, he was m VP of it. 759 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like he had to be. 760 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 7: It's like Michael Dixon was the m v P of 761 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 7: the Texas Bowl for Texas back then, back. 762 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: In I don't know when that was. It reminds me of. 763 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: That that is crazy, all right, that's real quick. 764 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of funny talked about this man because they 765 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: give him like the Thanksgiving trophy that everybody kind of 766 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: looks at it like oh hey, oh here yeah, and 767 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 3: it's like a it's like a whacked out what are 768 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 3: we gonna do with this? 769 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: How much do you guys attribute the drops from CD 770 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 4: last week to his injuries. 771 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: The shoulder's got to be bothering him. 772 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 7: I mean, with an ac joint, there's only so much 773 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 7: your shoulder is limited, especially as far as getting your 774 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 7: hands up. 775 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: I don't I can't. 776 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 7: Speak towards the drop specifically, but if I'm thinking about 777 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 7: mechanics and how the arm and shoulder works, I'm sure 778 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 7: it's not easy as easy as it would be catching 779 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 7: normal balls. I mean, he said last week is the 780 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 7: most banged up he's been in his career. He's playing 781 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 7: through it, so. 782 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: And we haven't seen him drop as many as he 783 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: dropped last week in a game like that just felt 784 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 4: like something was off. 785 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 7: He is the second highest or second lowest catch rate 786 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 7: in the NFL out of eligible receivers going into this week. 787 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 7: He's dropping ten percent of his passes, which. 788 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: I assume has to be a career high for him. 789 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, by a long shot. 790 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 7: He was in the He was on the complete opposite 791 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 7: end of the spectrum coming into the season as far 792 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 7: as what he's done these last couple of years. So 793 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 7: you would have to There was a lot of things 794 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 7: that I think factor into that. A him not being 795 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 7: at camp and taking a few weeks to get going, 796 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 7: and then Dak move gets out of the equation, got 797 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 7: to get used to a new quarterback. Then you get hurt, 798 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 7: and he was already hurt when the new quarterback came in. 799 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 7: But there's a lot that's been playing out of CD's favor. 800 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 7: But I think more credit has to be given to 801 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 7: CD than discredit, just because he's still at the top 802 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 7: of the league in receptions, he's still top ten and 803 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 7: receiving yards. He's still help helping to power this offense 804 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 7: even despite everything that's going on right now. 805 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 5: And you know that doesn't help when you have a 806 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 5: quarterback that's not always going to put it exactly where 807 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 5: you need it to. 808 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: Be, Like you have to be what do you mean. 809 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 7: Minute, I know she is back. 810 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 5: Hey, I have eyes I can see after getting lazy. 811 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 5: That's why I protect him, protecting my investment in my eyes. No, 812 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 5: but yeah, surely that doesn't help, and we've seen it 813 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 5: not just with him, but the rest of the receivers. 814 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 5: But I agree with you. I think, uh, the whole 815 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 5: training camp conversation his way out the window at this point, 816 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 5: and I think he's been solid enough given the situation. 817 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: Let's take a question from Carmine Polo. He says, with 818 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: the offensive line playing better, MIC's offense is still mediocre 819 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 4: now more than ever. He needs to open it up. 820 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 4: And this is not specific to this week, because I 821 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 4: think we all agree that this week they need to 822 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 4: actually maybe throttle it down a little bit and really 823 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: rely on the run. But just in general, do you 824 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 4: agree with that statement, and if so, how should they 825 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 4: open it up? How do they open this offense up? 826 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 7: Just be more creative, get the ball in the hands 827 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 7: of their playmakers, and have blockers out in front. I 828 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 7: feel like they don't. They don't utilize guys like CD 829 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 7: Turpin Cooks enough in the run after catch department, and 830 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 7: they have a ton of receivers that are good after 831 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 7: the catch and can get out in space, and especially 832 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 7: with some blockers out in front that can make things happen. 833 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 7: That would be my interpretation of opening things up. But 834 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 7: also we got used to last year so many mesh concepts, 835 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 7: and I feel like we haven't really seen a whole 836 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 7: lot of that this year. You know, if it's all 837 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 7: felt very it's all felt very stagnant. So I would 838 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 7: just guys on the move, always moving. There's been multiple times, 839 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 7: and this goes back to when Dak was quarterback before 840 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 7: he got hurt. It's been multiple times where it's four 841 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 7: five seconds after the snap and all the receivers are 842 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 7: just planted, you know, and there's there's not any movement. 843 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 7: There's not any offscript movement. And you know that's what uh, 844 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 7: that's what Dak was so good at last year in 845 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 7: this offense, but just haven't seen it. 846 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 3: It's all agree, I mean seriously, I mean, you it's 847 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 3: taken trying to get Turpin involved. You know, you get 848 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 3: some you get some legitimate playmakers, and it just kind 849 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: of makes me wonder if we've gone back to some 850 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: of the concepts that were you know, the first five 851 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: six weeks of last season. You know, we go it's okay, 852 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: let's we go back let's this, this will work. We'll 853 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 3: we'll we'll tweak it a little bit. And it to me, 854 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 3: it's just I watch we all watch games every week. 855 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 3: We watch, we see teams, we see how other offenses operate, 856 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 3: and it just it seems like to me, it's very 857 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 3: much the nineteen nineties offense where you're running the slants 858 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: and the hitches and you know, the sprint right option 859 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: on the goal line. You know, it's it's very very 860 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: nineteen nineties that when Joe Montana and Jerry writes and 861 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 3: then we're throwing it, it was really good. But right 862 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 3: now it's not the way to get your best playmakers 863 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 3: open consistently. And you know, Ambar's talked about this a 864 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: bunch and I totally agree with her. You know it, 865 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: don't have problem with Mike McCarthy the coach, the head coach. 866 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: I have a problem with Mike McCarthy the play caller. 867 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 3: I do know, you're you're you know, and Mike Zimmer, 868 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: friend of mine. I mean, I'm not saying it's because 869 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: of Mike. I think he's had his struggles too, but 870 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: I see him trying to do different things. He's just 871 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: not doing the same Damn thing every week. He realized, 872 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm playing with short you know, a short short stack here, 873 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 3: and I've got to kind of find a way to 874 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, use my guys. And he has. 875 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: He's kind of pieced the thing together and now he's 876 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 3: starting to get guys back, and it's looking better because 877 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 3: they're doing more things. I don't see that on the offense, 878 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: and that that that's that's unfortunate. 879 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 5: What's weird and what drives me crazy is like and 880 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 5: it's all about perspective, I suppose. But when we watched something, 881 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 5: we talk about it for so long, but then we 882 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,959 Speaker 5: don't see them basically, I would say seeing the same 883 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 5: things that we see. You mentioned Turpin and the conversation 884 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 5: last year. Look how long it's taken for us to 885 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 5: finally actually start seeing more of Turpin. Same with the 886 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 5: Running Game for example, as far as this year, and 887 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 5: and what's happened with with Rico, Yes, Hunter Lipke, that's 888 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 5: another guy that kind of we've saw. We've saw sparkle, 889 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 5: sparkles and sparkles, what do you say, sparkles and sprinkles flashes, 890 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 5: that's the world looking for flashes of insane thing. Same thing, 891 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 5: but even guys like Cooks last year. I know they 892 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 5: tried one game it didn't work out, and I just 893 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 5: feel that one game earlier in the season it was 894 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 5: just maybe a part of him just having a bad day, 895 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 5: and then he got injured and went out, and then 896 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 5: we saw the fact that he has on the offense. 897 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 5: He made two huge plays on last weekend's game. But 898 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 5: it's just it's always interesting to me how we feel 899 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 5: like we see things so clearly from our perspective, but 900 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 5: it always it's different from what they show week after 901 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 5: week improvement. 902 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 4: There are things I think that they see in practice. 903 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: There are temperaments that they see dealing with the players, 904 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 4: Like the players are not Yeah, the players are not robots, 905 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 4: and everything we see on the field isn't necessarily what 906 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 4: they're seeing behind the scenes that makes them make certain decisions, 907 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 4: you know, And I know just when you're leading a 908 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 4: group of people, sometimes the decisions you may have a 909 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 4: lot to do with what everybody needs to see. So 910 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 4: if you've got a player, let's say, for example, there's 911 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 4: a player and I'm not pointing at any particular player 912 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 4: on the Cowboys, but let's just assume there's a player 913 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 4: who everybody wants to see get more involved, but the 914 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 4: coaches are seeing behind the scenes, he's not doing the 915 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 4: study work, he's not paying attention during team meetings. Those 916 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 4: are things that they look at and they're like, we're 917 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 4: not going to reward that behavior by giving him more 918 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 4: opportunities because the rest of the team is watching that, 919 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 4: and so they have to make a decision that publicly 920 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 4: looks just like, why are you not getting this guy 921 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 4: more involved? But they're like, there are reasons why he's 922 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 4: not more involved. And again this is not directed to 923 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 4: any player. I'm just saying sometimes we have to think 924 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 4: there are more things involved in the decision than what 925 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 4: we know and what we see. 926 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 5: And I agree with that. But the thing to me, yes, 927 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 5: if it is one or two players, but when you 928 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 5: talk of a larger scale, then at some point the 929 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 5: players are not the problem. That's the point. Is the 930 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 5: voice that they're listening to. 931 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 4: Well fair, But it also could be a situation where 932 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 4: again I'm not saying that's. 933 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 5: All, this is just all I saw something. 934 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 4: The whole point I'm making is just I think we 935 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 4: have to be at least aware of the fact, and 936 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 4: we have to if we're being responsible on how we 937 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 4: report this. There are other things that could be at 938 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 4: play than just the player's ability that we don't know 939 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 4: about that they know about. 940 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 3: You know, well, then maybe that it needs to be 941 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 3: known that if they lose a game, And we asked 942 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, why isn't Turpin not playing more on the 943 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 3: offense than Mike McCarthy, if he would help me out 944 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 3: and say, Turpin's not practicing very well, He's missed, you know, 945 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: he's missed some time in the meetings. He's not picking 946 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 3: things up. We're not very good at that position right now. 947 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 3: We don't trust him to put him in the game. 948 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 4: Which exactly which the coach will never do. And again, 949 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 4: please please, I don't want this started to Turpin's doing 950 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 4: stuff off. 951 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: Like that. He's a good teammates players just in general. 952 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 3: It's certain player. But when you lose a game, you know, 953 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 3: then tell me why, well you know it, don't tell 954 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 3: me it was well, you know, the pre snap penalties, Yeah, 955 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: turnovers are bad. No, okay, if you know, if you 956 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 3: as a coaching staff, and maybe maybe off the record, 957 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: they do more of that where they do explain that, hey, 958 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 3: this guy is not very football intelligent and we can't 959 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 3: play him because we're gonna make mistakes, you know. I 960 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: I'd love to know that, if it has to be 961 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: off the record or whatever, I'd love to be able 962 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 3: to know that. 963 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 4: You know, I will say and this back in the day, 964 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: I used to appreciate this. Bill Parcells would actually give 965 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 4: you a fair assessment of a player. He would actually 966 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 4: go a little bit overboard, like he would even the 967 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 4: good players. He's like, oh that guy, that guy, you know, 968 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 4: he'd give hesment. 969 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 3: He would go, you don't have to coach that guy, right, 970 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 3: he will give you that's what he should tell me. 971 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 3: He goes, you want that guy, you don't have to 972 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 3: coach him. And I would go, that's fair. You know, 973 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 3: you're right, it's fair. I don't have to coach you, 974 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 3: you know. And and that's but to me, I would 975 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 3: I think we live in a day and age where 976 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 3: the criticism part. If you just told us why that 977 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: certain things that some things would play calling, why it 978 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 3: doesn't work, I think everything, we'd all have a better 979 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 3: understanding of that, maybe a little bit more of a 980 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 3: pass on something. 981 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 4: And maybe that's the thing you do off the record. 982 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 4: Obviously wouldn't go to get up on a stage and 983 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 4: say that, but there are opportunities to tell tell the 984 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,959 Speaker 4: media that off the record, so at least the media 985 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 4: colors how they were recorded. 986 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 2: Right any ourselves is unemployed. 987 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 4: Stop it all right, We appreciate you guys, join us, 988 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 4: moving back to wrap this thing up tomorrow. 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