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Speaker 1: with you. All right, let's recap what we've learned. We've
Speaker 1: learned a lot today. We talked to Chris Simms, he
Speaker 1: covers the draft. Chris Simms was saying that he was
Speaker 1: not a big to a tongue of Ioloa fan didn't
Speaker 1: think he was a top ten talent even without the injuries.
Speaker 1: We talked about Jordan Love going to the Packers. What
Speaker 1: that means. I found out the team that was going
Speaker 1: to move up and take Jordan Love. Just found out
Speaker 1: this about fifteen minutes ago. The Colts were going to
Speaker 1: move up and take Jordan Love with that pick. That
Speaker 1: pick in the second round. They were moving up to
Speaker 1: the first round. They were going to take Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: We also found out that Chris Simms was the first
Speaker 1: choice for the Bachelor over Jesse Palmer, who eventually became
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. Now we haven't confirmed it, but Chris Simms
Speaker 1: is my source on it. He was playing for the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and he turned it down because he
Speaker 1: said John Gruden would probably kill him if he took that.
Speaker 1: And I broke the news to Jesse Palmer last hour.
Speaker 1: You know it was. It was honest. It was raw
Speaker 1: radio and you got to hear a grown man who
Speaker 1: I think you know, he he got sacked right there.
Speaker 1: I think he got he got humbled a little bit
Speaker 1: that Chris Simms was the first choice for the Bachelor. Yes, seton.
Speaker 1: It's like his entire world was turned upside down. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was when you heard you gave him that news. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My job is not to pick and choose who I
Speaker 1: give it to. And when I give it to them,
Speaker 1: I just give it to them. I'm a journalist and
Speaker 1: as a journalist I had to tell him. Chris Simms
Speaker 1: was the first selection as a NFL quarterback to be
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. Mark Sanchez, a former quarterback, he will join
Speaker 1: his coming up. I think we got a theme show
Speaker 1: here with Chris Sims, Jesse Palmer, and Mark Sanchez. You
Speaker 1: got rounds two and three coming up tonight. You start
Speaker 1: to look at how the quarterbacks played out with Tuah
Speaker 1: going where he went? They went where I thought they
Speaker 1: would go. I thought maybe Jordan Love would last to
Speaker 1: the second round and maybe a team like Carolina would
Speaker 1: take him, But that wouldn't have been the case because
Speaker 1: the Colts would have taken him. You know, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to hand out grades, and it's difficult to do that
Speaker 1: because if I if I hand out grades right now,
Speaker 1: you're talking about two or three years from now where
Speaker 1: that comes back and haunt you. You really have to
Speaker 1: wait two or three years before you get a true
Speaker 1: assessment of what a team did. But there's no fun
Speaker 1: in that. Do I like Joe Burrow going where he went? Yes,
Speaker 1: Chase Young where he went? Yes? The Lions? You know,
Speaker 1: the Lions interviewed Tah and they admitted they interviewed Tah.
Speaker 1: Now I thought, if if you're Detroit, you gotta look
Speaker 1: at this, and why wouldn't you look at this and say,
Speaker 1: could we take Tuh hav him sit for a year,
Speaker 1: then could we maybe trade Matthew Stafford? You know, you
Speaker 1: start to look at the numbers and it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And then I was told by a source, Detroit has
Speaker 1: to win this year or they're gonna be people who
Speaker 1: are fired the Giants. I thought you would take Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons and you know, get a tackle. I get it.
Speaker 1: Did you get the best tackle? I don't know that
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons went to Arizona. Obviously, really surprised he slipped
Speaker 1: to eight. I was surprised that Ruggs went to the
Speaker 1: Raiders at twelve. But if Al Davis were still alive,
Speaker 1: Al Davis would have taken Henry Ruggs. He loved that
Speaker 1: straight ahead speed. Jerry Judy to the Broncos is a
Speaker 1: smart choice. I love Ceedee Lamb lasting to seventeen with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Dolphins getting Austin Jackson. He's a big guy
Speaker 1: out of usc and it feels like he's gonna You know,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are probably a year away. If you look
Speaker 1: at Tuah, maybe a year away. If Austin Jackson's able
Speaker 1: to develop into a legitimate NFL tackle, you're year away.
Speaker 1: You got some cap room there. Tampa Bay takes Tristan Worfs,
Speaker 1: who could have been a top ten pick and they
Speaker 1: get him thirteen. You got a tackle here for Tom
Speaker 1: Brady just I love the Kenneth Murray pick. That inside
Speaker 1: linebacker from Oklahoma for the Chargers and Chargers defense is great,
Speaker 1: really great. I told you that I got from a
Speaker 1: source with the Odell Beckham stuff that there was no
Speaker 1: truth to it. What did I tell you when I
Speaker 1: first heard that they were going to take a wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the draft. And what did they do last night?
Speaker 1: They took Justin Jefferson out of LSU. There was no
Speaker 1: story there. Do I think that Odell Beckham will eventually
Speaker 1: be traded in the next two years, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1: But Minnesota, from what I was told they were taking
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, they took a wide receiver. And the
Speaker 1: quote I got was, why did we get rid of
Speaker 1: a headache to bring in a headache? Patrick Queen with
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I love him out of LSU? Who else?
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards, Hilaire Chiefs. You add to their offense. That's fun.
Speaker 1: And if you're Patrick Mahomes and you're watching your draft
Speaker 1: and you're going, oh, yes, I got a guy who
Speaker 1: is a great pass catcher. And remember when we had
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow on and I asked him about who is
Speaker 1: the best player on the team, like who's the most
Speaker 1: valuable play. He didn't even hesitate. He said, Clyde is
Speaker 1: a freak. And I'm going to take it from Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow that his running back goes to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: But it was fun. You know, the Saints get Seesar
Speaker 1: Ruiz out of Michigan and I know it's a center
Speaker 1: and nobody cares. That's those guys start and then you
Speaker 1: look back and you go, oh, that's right, you got
Speaker 1: him in the draft. It feels like guards and centers
Speaker 1: are easier to handicap here. It's it's really hard to
Speaker 1: look at a tackle. I think you can whiff on
Speaker 1: tackles now more than you can wide receivers, and it
Speaker 1: used to be the other way around. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's because if you look at the defense or press
Speaker 1: coverage that you have in the NFL, it's different for
Speaker 1: these wide receivers to get separation. You know, the quality
Speaker 1: of the defense is obviously better the tackles. To me,
Speaker 1: that's a great mystery because you can have somebody and
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna take him, like Eric Fisher. Then Eric
Speaker 1: Fisher go number one overall out of Central Michigan, and
Speaker 1: so there's no guarantees. There's no guarantees whatsoever. You know,
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas out of Georgia, I was always under the
Speaker 1: impression maybe he was the third or fourth best tackle
Speaker 1: in the draft. He goes to the Giants. I was surprised.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna go Isaiah Simmons because it
Speaker 1: feels like Isaiah Simmons is a guy that you say, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you just dominate? Go out there and you know,
Speaker 1: being a junior sale, you know, freelance, like lt did
Speaker 1: go get him, have some fun out there. We got
Speaker 1: more football coming up tonight. I know it's not action,
Speaker 1: but it's still kind of satisfied the craving there. McLevin,
Speaker 1: what do you think of your Chargers getting you said
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murried. They're kind of loaded on defense. I know
Speaker 1: we look at them as an offense. Now you get Herbert.
Speaker 1: I don't think Herbert plays this year. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: he gets some time. But Tyrod Taylor with that team,
Speaker 1: they should be a really good team. But you got
Speaker 1: to be a really good team because you're in the AFC. West.
Speaker 1: You know you can't go. Are we the best team
Speaker 1: in the AFC? You're not the best team in the
Speaker 1: AFC West, And just the high bar that you have there,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to wait a year to see
Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert is maybe your franchise quarterback. But that
Speaker 1: defense there, I look at them as much as being
Speaker 1: a defensive team. I do an offensive team. And this
Speaker 1: is a team that two years ago I thought they
Speaker 1: were super Bowl team. I thought they were the most
Speaker 1: talented team that I saw. You go from twelve and
Speaker 1: four to five and eleven and then Philip Rivers is
Speaker 1: going in Indianapolis there. Yeah, I'm mcleven. What do you
Speaker 1: think of a Saints Bucks rivalry this year? They seem
Speaker 1: like they're on a collision course. Should be if if
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are good enough to get up to that
Speaker 1: level with the Saints. I was also looking at a
Speaker 1: tweet by our buddy Adam Lefco. The Saints and Packers
Speaker 1: have Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Now this is the final
Speaker 1: Super Bowl window for both of those guys. Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is forty one. He already signed the deal with NBC
Speaker 1: that's for next season. The Saints drafted an offensive lineman
Speaker 1: for Drew Brees. The Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers air apparent
Speaker 1: thank you poll than is he saying one of them
Speaker 1: is drastically right and the drastically Wrongers just pointing it out,
Speaker 1: but just pointing out. The Saints are building, They're they're
Speaker 1: in for this year. The Packers were a win away
Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl and they're already looking at their future.
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna They're gonna be in the now and
Speaker 1: deal with the current situation coming up tonight and over
Speaker 1: the weekend. But they used This wasn't a value pick,
Speaker 1: by the way, And when I first saw it, I go,
Speaker 1: you know, where was Jordan Love on all the big
Speaker 1: boards here? And he was projected to be end of
Speaker 1: the first round? Maybe a talent that was greater than that.
Speaker 1: But this isn't a value pick where you go, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we can't pass him up. That's the amazing
Speaker 1: part of it for me. Now, you couldn't have stayed
Speaker 1: at thirty and gotten him, because from what I'm told,
Speaker 1: the Colts were going up and they were going to
Speaker 1: get him. I don't know how high up they were
Speaker 1: going to get him, but they were going up to
Speaker 1: get him, and that makes a lot of sense for
Speaker 1: the Colts. And the Colts are going to draft a
Speaker 1: quarterback tonight from what I'm told, But you were going
Speaker 1: to go up. You couldn't because they beat you to it.
Speaker 1: But don't look at this and say, boy, the Packers man,
Speaker 1: they got a value pick here. No, you trade it
Speaker 1: up to get this guy, and you can't sit here
Speaker 1: and go, you know, maybe he'll work out as our
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, maybe he'll take over fren run. You're drafting
Speaker 1: him and using a first round pick. Now granted it's
Speaker 1: not like you're using a top ten pick and the
Speaker 1: money that you'll spend, but you know, you went all
Speaker 1: in on him. I saw this last night courtesy the
Speaker 1: NFL Network. Our good buddy Rich Eisen was hosting the
Speaker 1: charity the telethon there for the NFL Network with those
Speaker 1: affected by COVID nineteen. Kevin Hart was on there, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Michael Strahan, Dion Sanders, and then Tom Brady
Speaker 1: himself and of course, and it's not a feud, it's
Speaker 1: just maybe misunderstanding or disagreement on who owns the rights
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay T shirts. We created it, he trademarked it.
Speaker 1: You'd think that we could be partners, but we decided
Speaker 1: this is the last day you can order the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay T shirts. Well, Kevin Hart picked up on this,
Speaker 1: and this is Kevin Hart calling out Tom Brady for
Speaker 1: taking the name Tampa Bay from the well listened to
Speaker 1: popular Dan Patrick show. Hey Tom, Yeah, and a what
Speaker 1: a humble move to call Tampa Tampa. What a jerk?
Speaker 1: You know? Lands there? Tom? Will you think about Tampa Bay?
Speaker 1: About Tampa? Yeah? And now we know. Yeah, boy, this
Speaker 1: is our stupid idea. We were stupid way before. Tom
Speaker 1: was way before. Yeah, we've kind of cornered the market
Speaker 1: on stupidity. Yes, he's trademarked our stupidity. Yes, dang right
Speaker 1: out from under us. I know. But we weren't smart enough.
Speaker 1: We were stupid enough. We just weren't smart enough. Nobody
Speaker 1: produces dumb content faster than us. I accurate, No, I know? Uh, Sean,
Speaker 1: and Nebraska joins us, Hey Sean, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan? So, as a Buffalo Bill fan, I have
Speaker 1: to grudgingly say that the Patriots are putting on a
Speaker 1: masterclass in ten and the Green Bay Packers could definitely
Speaker 1: take some notes. I think going into this season, you're
Speaker 1: very similar outlooks aging quarterbacks, really good team that's maybe
Speaker 1: not good enough to win the Super Bowl, don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of cap space, probably not going to make
Speaker 1: them good enough to win the super Bowl. So rather
Speaker 1: than wait, they just rip the band aid off. The
Speaker 1: well Attick trades back into the second round. You can
Speaker 1: still get first round talent at that fifth pick. They
Speaker 1: don't have to pay the guy. And I think somewhere
Speaker 1: along the way they're probably going to shed a veteran
Speaker 1: in the year and maybe even for another draft pick.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll take a quarterback in this draft.
Speaker 1: The light on that because they don't see that talent
Speaker 1: coming up. And whereas the Packers, I think they are
Speaker 1: handing Aaron Rodgers his hat and telling them to, you know,
Speaker 1: slowly walk out the door. But they really should just
Speaker 1: you know, give it to them straight. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: we might be overacting just a little bit there, Sean,
Speaker 1: But thanks for the phone call. Rogers is still playing
Speaker 1: an elite level. Had a great year last year. The
Speaker 1: thirteen and three there went away from the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They're not that far off and you still have your orderback.
Speaker 1: The Patriots don't have a quarterback. They have Jared Stidham.
Speaker 1: There's no way Bill Belichick is tanking, just not Jacksonville. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: come on down, Jacksonville feels like is going to do
Speaker 1: a great job in tanking for Trevor Lawrence. Yes, Paulie,
Speaker 1: the Patriots have a second round draft pick and then
Speaker 1: they have four thirds and two fourth round draft picks
Speaker 1: to trade up. You know they're got to take a
Speaker 1: quarterback or we're all going to go. And that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: what did they see in him? What did we miss
Speaker 1: with Jacob Eason or whoever they take. I get the
Speaker 1: feeling that they're going to take They're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: bring in a quarterback when the draft is over. That's
Speaker 1: what I want to see with what happens with Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: Do the Bengals cut him? What happens to Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: and what happens to Jameis Winston. If you're a team, see,
Speaker 1: I thought Pittsburgh was going to be interested in Jordan
Speaker 1: Love and I forgot all about the Colts last night
Speaker 1: because when you look at Ben that his backup, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have good backup here. But if you can go
Speaker 1: Jordan Love and I can give you maybe two years
Speaker 1: with Ben, That to me would have made a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. But the Packers might be three years away
Speaker 1: from using him. But I don't think you can look
Speaker 1: at this and go. You know, the Patriots used a
Speaker 1: second round pick on Garoppolo. If they had used a
Speaker 1: first round pick on Garoppolo, then you'd have a situation
Speaker 1: I think similar to what's going on here with the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. We got a winner on the scoreboard,
Speaker 1: Todd scoreboard that he spends way too much time on
Speaker 1: every single morning. The numbers are ten and seventy four.
Speaker 1: Jake and Colorado is the winner. I wonder if this
Speaker 1: has anything to do with the Broncos since it's Jake
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. So ten and seventy four. The numbers the
Speaker 1: clue you're good just leaving, ye, just starting The first
Speaker 1: number is just leaving. The second number has to do
Speaker 1: with just starting. Both this date and history both NFL related.
Speaker 1: Let me see just leaving somebody sixteen years ago today
Speaker 1: NFL draft right SUPs to be playing somewhere and said, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go somewhere else. Just leaving Jersey number ten,
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. There you go. That's the ten. Eli Manning
Speaker 1: sixteen years ago today. Drafted it by the Chargers and
Speaker 1: went to the Giants, right. And the second number is
Speaker 1: a team. We've been talking a lot about something special
Speaker 1: that happened on the State in History in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 1: They were just starting Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: The NFL granted a franchise to the Bucks the State
Speaker 1: in History in seventy four. Eli Manning ten Buccaneers nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy four. Thank you, Todd. Welcome, Thank you Todd. These
Speaker 1: are tough man. It's fine. We're making it interesting, trying
Speaker 1: to step up the game a little bit. You're gonna
Speaker 1: earn the right to win. Dan and North Carolina joins us. Hi, Dan,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Y Don five
Speaker 1: ten one fifty. I hope you guys are having a
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Hope you guys are having a
Speaker 1: good meet Friday. I'm about to enjoy some Dove and
Speaker 1: Vanison tenderland myself thanking to the meat of my phone
Speaker 1: call as you out of the Dear Todd. I've been
Speaker 1: listening to you for years. Thank you, Todd. I've been
Speaker 1: listening too for years, and it seems like every year
Speaker 1: you say you have to wait two to three years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can actually analyze the draft picks. Yes, um, I'd
Speaker 1: like to know who you think just in the first round,
Speaker 1: best and worst picks from the twenty seventeen NFL draft,
Speaker 1: And hello to chat Row and Suck up front left,
Speaker 1: All right, whoa, I think that's me. I think it is.
Speaker 1: I think, Thank you, Dan. Can you look at the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen draft there, PAULI? Yeah, hold on one second, Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on a second. Make Aleven update the poll results.
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, the former quarterback Will Jones coming up here well,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and his career in Green Bay sixty four
Speaker 1: percent saying no. Evan and Indiana joins us. Hey Evan,
Speaker 1: Dan Worth say six two two forty three. In following,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for helping me get through my morning run.
Speaker 1: Makes it a lot more fun. Quick question, do you
Speaker 1: really think Jake from or Jalen Hurts goes at either
Speaker 1: two or twelve tonight to Indie to replace Philip Rivers?
Speaker 1: And I don't, I don't. They Once again, you don't
Speaker 1: just take a quarterback, to take a quarterback, take a
Speaker 1: quarterback you think fitchers system. That's that's the key into
Speaker 1: Jordan's love. That if they looked at him and they
Speaker 1: like what they saw, then great. But you know, you
Speaker 1: could use a wide receiver there. And if he's not
Speaker 1: the right guy, then don't take you don't go. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't get him. Let's take Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: You can't do it that way, yeah, mclovin. Is it
Speaker 1: a stretch to say if they liked Love, maybe they
Speaker 1: want a big, strong arm guy like Easton could be
Speaker 1: similar qualities. Yeah. I hear good things about Easton, you know,
Speaker 1: but once again it's the measurables. I don't know his personality,
Speaker 1: I you know, but but I hear, you know, good things. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: Going back to the two thousand and seventeen draft, I'll
Speaker 1: go quickly. Browns took Myles Garrett. He's a pro bowler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: barratsk Mitch Trubisky. Niners took Solomon Thomas and he's not great.
Speaker 1: He's not bad, and I thought he was going to
Speaker 1: be great. Jaguars took four Nette in the fourth spot
Speaker 1: and he's getting better. But he's done. Corey Davis of
Speaker 1: the Titans zoo, that's not good. Jamal Adams of the
Speaker 1: Jets safety very good. Mike Williams of the Chargers injured
Speaker 1: his first year but playing well now wide receiver good.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey the Panthers very good. Bengals drafted John Ross,
Speaker 1: little speedy wide receiver of Washington. Not good, and then
Speaker 1: Chiefs took Mahomes, New Orleans took Lattimore the defensive back,
Speaker 1: and Texans took to Shaun Watson. Like you look at
Speaker 1: all of those guys, they're all I mean, there's some
Speaker 1: great players. Garrett could be, you know, a ten time
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player, Jamal Adams All Pro player, Mike Williams
Speaker 1: is very good. McCaffrey with what he's done, Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: you know, could be a Hall of Famer. Marshawn Lattimore
Speaker 1: is very good, Deshaun Watson is great. Who else? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you go to the end of the first round,
Speaker 1: t J Watt pro bowler at the thirtieth pick, and
Speaker 1: then Tradevius White, the defensive back of an LSU with
Speaker 1: the Bills, he's really good. Yeah, So I mean you
Speaker 1: can look, you can give grades. I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: giving an accurate grade because we all want to go, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Give them an A? Give the
Speaker 1: Miami got an A. I saw, you know some drafts. Wheer, Hey,
Speaker 1: they got a tackle and they got a quarterback. First
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if the tackle is good
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson out of USC and what if TWA is
Speaker 1: not healthy? So hey, I gave you an A. I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I always say, give me at
Speaker 1: least two years where I can see you know where
Speaker 1: we're going on this. I know we want it now,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it's a like a chief way
Speaker 1: for me to get out of given a grade here.
Speaker 1: I don't do this for a living. From the standpoint
Speaker 1: of assessing the talent there, I do talk to people
Speaker 1: who do this. But you know, if you're saying, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think of you know, throw out an
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. I think he's going to be a dominating player.
Speaker 1: But understand this, it's not like you're crappy in college
Speaker 1: and then you get drafted in the first round. Everybody's good.
Speaker 1: You can make a tape where everybody looks great, but
Speaker 1: that's not what the NFL is all about Hey, I
Speaker 1: got a great tape and called Mitchell Truebisky probably had
Speaker 1: a great tape. Vince Young had a great tape. He
Speaker 1: had one of the best performances ever. He won the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. I mean, we assumed he was going to
Speaker 1: be very good. That's why when you give out grades,
Speaker 1: it's always an I'd give out an incomplete because I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just just don't know, and that might
Speaker 1: be mean spirit to give Mitchell Trubisky an incomplete. Actually
Speaker 1: it's pretty nice. We'll take that, all right, take a break.
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez will join us, get his thoughts on what
Speaker 1: unfurled last night in the draft and how would he
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Speaker 1: song and he I'm literally carrying him into like media
Speaker 1: day at Super Bowl and he sees little nas X. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know no offense to him. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what he looked like because I hadn't seen the
Speaker 1: music video. I just knew the song and my son's
Speaker 1: the one, this three year old boy good Old Town
Speaker 1: Road again. And I'm like, well, don't point because that's rude.
Speaker 1: All right, what do you chang? Let me start with
Speaker 1: Jordan Love going to the Packers. This wasn't a value pick.
Speaker 1: They went up to get him. How would you feel
Speaker 1: if you're Aaron Rodgers the same way Far probably felt.
Speaker 1: It's it's difficult. But at the same time, I set
Speaker 1: this leading up to the draft that a perfect place
Speaker 1: for either Herbert or Jordan Love was a place like
Speaker 1: New Orleans or Green Bay where you have an established starter,
Speaker 1: so there shouldn't be any question as in that organization
Speaker 1: or outside that organization. I know the media will make
Speaker 1: it bigger than it needs to be, but Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is a clear cut starter for as long as he
Speaker 1: wants to be and until his play declines, which I
Speaker 1: don't see happening anytime soon. I mean, he's still got
Speaker 1: another five plus years if he rarely wants to. You know,
Speaker 1: he's one of those Tom Brady kind of guys who
Speaker 1: could do it for as long as he wants. But
Speaker 1: then why do it, Mark Well, I think you're grooming
Speaker 1: your next guy because you want to get They love
Speaker 1: Aaron so much, in my opinion, they want to get
Speaker 1: some of the best of Aaron out of or injected
Speaker 1: into Jordan Love, and he needs to be around him
Speaker 1: because Jordan Love. To be completely frank, I don't think,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that he's ready to go into an
Speaker 1: NFL locker room and go on that field and start
Speaker 1: day one, especially with an offseason like this, That just
Speaker 1: makes it even worse for somebody like that because he
Speaker 1: can damage his confidence and ruin him for the rest
Speaker 1: of his career. So especial franchise like that, a story
Speaker 1: franchise where the quarterbacks are pretty solid. You gotta give
Speaker 1: him a chance to learn from someone like that. And
Speaker 1: Aaron benefited from that. And it was his Instagram last
Speaker 1: night far of was like joking about it or you
Speaker 1: know you saw that, Yeah, he wasn't joking. Fifteen years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, dang, and then it really happened. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh God, this is It's gonna be weird
Speaker 1: on the outside. But I think Aaron will have learned
Speaker 1: from that situation that he was in and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: take him under his wing or at least have the
Speaker 1: professional courtesy to help him out from time to time.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has to just completely give up
Speaker 1: his job, because that's Aaron's job. But this is the
Speaker 1: best situation for Jordan Love, I really think. And somewhere
Speaker 1: like New Orleans would have been great too, where you
Speaker 1: have a guy, like I said, who's an established starter.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about anything. It's called intangibles,
Speaker 1: presented by Forth and Forever. You sat down with two
Speaker 1: a tongue of Iloa, justin Herbert and Jordan Love. You're
Speaker 1: talking about intangibles. And I bring this up when it
Speaker 1: comes to trying to assess who's going to be able
Speaker 1: to make that next leap into the NFL. They all
Speaker 1: have talent. Everybody's got a great highlight reel. It's Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have, you know, the physical gifts as much
Speaker 1: as he has the intangibles. Drew Brees the same way
Speaker 1: you can say Peyton Man, like, what is it that
Speaker 1: you're looking for? Mark? With these intangibles with these young quarterbacks. Well,
Speaker 1: I think some of it is just mental toughness. What
Speaker 1: what have they been through? What experience have they had?
Speaker 1: And have they bounced back from good or bad? Also,
Speaker 1: you know that's part of their self confidence. Just watching
Speaker 1: their tape and speaking the language with them, What can
Speaker 1: I try and walk them down a road to correcting themselves?
Speaker 1: Are they their own toughest critic? You know, things like
Speaker 1: that keep guys going for a long time in this
Speaker 1: league and keep you around for many years. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of that in all three
Speaker 1: of these guys. But like you said, they're all big enough,
Speaker 1: they're all strong enough, they're all fast enough. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 1: some guys are a little bigger, a little stronger, a
Speaker 1: little faster than the others. But they've all got something now.
Speaker 1: It just depends on where you land. And to be
Speaker 1: totally honest, positioned perfectly, it's somebody like Jordan Love because
Speaker 1: he's going to reap the benefits just like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: People are comparing his tape to Patrick Mahomes for a reason.
Speaker 1: There's freaky arm talent. He throws some amazing balls, but
Speaker 1: he also leaves you scratching your head sometimes like, well,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? What was that? Why there? Or
Speaker 1: why now? And every quarterback's done that, But when you
Speaker 1: string a couple of those together on one in one
Speaker 1: season like he had last year, Granted he lost nine starters.
Speaker 1: Coaching change, offensive change, offensive scheme change, that's fine, but
Speaker 1: that was a lot of interceptions for college at Utah State.
Speaker 1: So what did Patrick Mahomes do his last year at
Speaker 1: Texas tack? He threw a lot of picks too, a lot,
Speaker 1: and so they get him behind Alex Smith for a year.
Speaker 1: One of the best at taking care of the football,
Speaker 1: one of the best at understanding how his feet and
Speaker 1: progressions and everything is a part of timing. They all
Speaker 1: tie in together. How to get through your progressions With
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, who's now been validated as a great coordinator,
Speaker 1: even though we've known that forever. Then what happens now
Speaker 1: you cut him loose after a year of just figuring
Speaker 1: things out, just examining, taking in information like a sponge,
Speaker 1: just soak it all in, and that's what you can
Speaker 1: potentially have. And if Jordan Love has any sense to him,
Speaker 1: which I think he does after sitting down with him,
Speaker 1: he's just going to be without being, you know, an
Speaker 1: annoying little brother. He's got to be Aaron Rodgers little brother.
Speaker 1: And just watch him. How does he watch tape? Why
Speaker 1: are you looking at that? Ask questions without you know,
Speaker 1: pissing the guy off, figure out what are you doing right?
Speaker 1: What he's doing wrong? And just make an he can't
Speaker 1: buy an notebooks and pencils right now. That would be
Speaker 1: my first investment if I just learned from the guy,
Speaker 1: because he's one of the best of all time. But
Speaker 1: if I look at this, Jordan Loves not going to
Speaker 1: play this year. I hope Tua doesn't play this year.
Speaker 1: We know Joe Burrow is going to play, But then
Speaker 1: that brings me to Justin Herbert, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's ready to play right now either. You got tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 1: But I wonder how quickly you know in the old days,
Speaker 1: if you're drafted this high, as you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're going in and now you play. And you know,
Speaker 1: as Brady told me years ago, if I had played
Speaker 1: right away, I'd be out of the League. I needed
Speaker 1: to understand how to slow the game down all of
Speaker 1: those things. If you're the Chargers, what do you do
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert. Here's the problem. And I don't think
Speaker 1: Chargers fans are gonna love this. They got a new stadium,
Speaker 1: it's a big media market. They're competing with the Rams constantly.
Speaker 1: The Rams just went to the Super Bowl two years ago,
Speaker 1: so they need to sell Jersey Cell tickets. There's this
Speaker 1: other factor, this other force, right, this driving for of
Speaker 1: you know, a monetary force, right, And so they're gonna push.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be pressure to play this kid. If Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor goes three and out a couple times in a row,
Speaker 1: I guarantee it, just because he was drafted so high,
Speaker 1: just because when you see him in training camp, I
Speaker 1: guarantee there's gonna be highlights all over the news channels
Speaker 1: talking about, wow, did you see that ball? And look
Speaker 1: at how great his feet are and he's so big,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you look at him, you fall in
Speaker 1: love with the kid. It's unbelievable. His physical attributes. He's
Speaker 1: six six and ran a sub four seven. It's freaky now.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be pressure to play him. My only
Speaker 1: advice to Anthony Lynn, who is our running backs coach
Speaker 1: in New York with the Jets, just give him some time, man,
Speaker 1: let him marinate, let him sit in the oven. Take
Speaker 1: him out when he's ready, and not a minute too soon,
Speaker 1: or else you might spoil it. How many times and
Speaker 1: you're playing against Brady twice a year in the AFC East,
Speaker 1: did you ever look over or watch him on the
Speaker 1: field and go, how in the hell is he doing this?
Speaker 1: So during the time he was still building some of that,
Speaker 1: he obviously had that aura around him, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's like a man as a competitor, you're like, you
Speaker 1: want to you want to beat his ass. You know,
Speaker 1: You're not like I'm not in this too, you know,
Speaker 1: just wow at somebody, I want to go kick his
Speaker 1: kick this guy's ass. But knowing what he's done and
Speaker 1: seeing him come back in games, like I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I had any nails left after
Speaker 1: that after the divisional game in Foxborough, because they're starting
Speaker 1: amount a comeback, Like we hit him hard early, got
Speaker 1: him down early, and it's twenty eight fourteen, But I
Speaker 1: mean we're talking with three minutes left. That thing can
Speaker 1: flip quick. They could score seventeen points fast. So you
Speaker 1: just have so much respect for the guy that in
Speaker 1: some ways you're terrified. In other ways you just want
Speaker 1: to go beat him, you know. So it's it's but
Speaker 1: there's nothing but Mark. You're not watching Mahomes play quarterback.
Speaker 1: You're not watching Aaron Rodgers play quarterback. You're not watching Lamar.
Speaker 1: You know, like, I'm looking at a guy who looks
Speaker 1: like a normal guy playing quarterback. Physically looks normal, but
Speaker 1: he's abnormal. Why it's between his ears. Man, he's figured
Speaker 1: it out. He's supremely confident, and he a lot like
Speaker 1: the military. These guys get in these very difficult situations,
Speaker 1: but they know exactly what to do. They have a process,
Speaker 1: they have a checklist, and he can do it so quickly,
Speaker 1: and he has this mental rolodex of you know, coverages
Speaker 1: and blitzes and pressures that he's seen before, and he
Speaker 1: can immediately pull it up without having to go through,
Speaker 1: you know, like certain people. You gotta okay, was that
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, two years ago, which a FC Championship
Speaker 1: game was that? No, No, I guarantee you right away. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know twenty fourteen versus the Broncos in the playoffs
Speaker 1: on the road, blah blah blah. I guarantee he knows that,
Speaker 1: and that's what's made him so good. He also you
Speaker 1: can tell when you've been in the same system for
Speaker 1: a long time. Dan, when you have five options, you're
Speaker 1: not necessarily going through all five options. It's almost the
Speaker 1: guys who can process the quickest are the ones who know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going to him. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: him either. Now I'm down to three, and if there's
Speaker 1: any pressure, I have a contingency plan. I know exactly
Speaker 1: where to go if this thing, if everything goes to crap,
Speaker 1: I know exactly where to go. And that's that's been
Speaker 1: his thing. And then even when there's nowhere to go,
Speaker 1: he falls down, and that is one of the hardest
Speaker 1: things to do. I'm telling you, he'll you're right, to
Speaker 1: somebody a gift. He'll give somebody a gift in the
Speaker 1: eighth row and just sail one almost out of the stadium.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't care because he knows there's there's a
Speaker 1: bigger goal in mind. I don't need that one play
Speaker 1: to beat you, but that one play could lose the
Speaker 1: game for us. Well, that's what Nick Saban brought up,
Speaker 1: because I said, what concerned you? And he said, because
Speaker 1: he TWOA never gives up on a play. And I said,
Speaker 1: like you, if Tom and Peyton didn't have anything there,
Speaker 1: they would just fall into fetal position. You know. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is in between. He'll extend to play, but he'll
Speaker 1: get out of it like he's smart. If I was
Speaker 1: one of these athletic backs, mobile quarterbacks, I just say,
Speaker 1: study Russell Wilson, because right he picks his spots when
Speaker 1: to run, when to slide, when to get out of bound.
Speaker 1: Brady is just, hey, nothing there, I'm going down. That's
Speaker 1: it exactly. And I guarantee you a lot of that
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson where he's learned that, and even his
Speaker 1: demeanor on the field, like constantly positive. That's so Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: And after being around Pete for so long, he reminds
Speaker 1: you every single meeting when you start the year in
Speaker 1: training camp, he holds a football and he says, it's
Speaker 1: all about this. He says, when you hold this, you
Speaker 1: hold the hopes and dreams and aspirations of the entire franchise.
Speaker 1: Everything from the guy cooking the food in the cafeteria
Speaker 1: to the guy washing your dirty jock. This is the
Speaker 1: most important thing in our entire universe. Is that clear.
Speaker 1: It's all about the ball, that's it. So he knows, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I can't take hits and lose the football. I can't
Speaker 1: give the ball to the other team. And that's one
Speaker 1: of the hardest things to do, is to give up,
Speaker 1: to say uncle on the field when you're so competitive.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's easier to try and make And
Speaker 1: I told Jordan loved this. I said, don't make me
Speaker 1: chicken salad out of chicken crap. I can't do that.
Speaker 1: If it's over, it's over, saale it and it's hard.
Speaker 1: That's great advice. It's called Intangibles, presented by Fourth and Forever,
Speaker 1: and it's released this week on Showtime Sports YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez Pancho Villa, the former NFL USC quarterback. Do
Speaker 1: you joke at all with Pete Carroll about when you
Speaker 1: were coming out he didn't want you to come out
Speaker 1: and he said he would have like he was going
Speaker 1: to throw himself in front of the door, that he
Speaker 1: wouldn't let you out of the USC to go prod.
Speaker 1: Can you joke about that. Now we actually talked about
Speaker 1: it a little bit, but it happened. But it actually so,
Speaker 1: you know, the night before I don't know if I
Speaker 1: don't know if I said it on this show or somewhere,
Speaker 1: but the night before he was in my apartment at
Speaker 1: school and we had in and out burger at like
Speaker 1: till like two in the morning, and we were just
Speaker 1: talking talking about life, talking about football, talking about our
Speaker 1: families and everything, you know, and he's like literally like
Speaker 1: when he leaves, he just kind of like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to agree with you tomorrow, but you know,
Speaker 1: I want you to do well. Like I support you,
Speaker 1: I just I don't agree with what you're doing. I
Speaker 1: would say that to my kid, you know, if he
Speaker 1: was you or whatever. And so I understood. Well, it
Speaker 1: just came across so poorly. And then there's like the
Speaker 1: picture in the La Times where he's like walking off
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like shaking hands or what and
Speaker 1: then so it just looks of the optics of it
Speaker 1: looks so bad. Yeah, I remember we left school, everything
Speaker 1: had ended. I kind of felt like a weird vibe
Speaker 1: in the room in the press conference, and then it
Speaker 1: just blew up. And you know, this is two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine, so Twitter is starting to take off, and
Speaker 1: I mean it just like it exploded. And I remember
Speaker 1: him calling me and he goes, God, Lee, what the
Speaker 1: heck is going on? I just said I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't say I don't like you or I don't support you,
Speaker 1: like I said, don't even worry about it. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the picture. It looks like you don't know each
Speaker 1: other and if you do, you'll hate each other. It
Speaker 1: looks like twenty twenty passing something quarantine like, oh, it's weird. Great,
Speaker 1: great appearance. Great to have you on, Mark, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, and good luck with Showtime Sports. Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. All right. That's Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Yeah. I remember when Pete Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: didn't think Mark should go, and he's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw myself in front of the door. I'm not letting
Speaker 1: you out, or I wouldn't let you out. I'm going,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, and the Jets traded up to get him.
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Speaker 1: results of the poll question McLevin, when he have for
Speaker 1: me well? Aaron Rodgers and his career in Green Bay
Speaker 1: still sixty two say no, Okay, I don't think he does,
Speaker 1: but there's a feeling that I would have that if
Speaker 1: you said after two years he decided that he was
Speaker 1: done playing football and wanted to do something else, I
Speaker 1: would understand that. I don't know if he is like
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Drew Brees and like there's almost like
Speaker 1: they want to prove that they can play till they're
Speaker 1: forty two or forty three or forty four or forty five.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Aaron Rodgers has that mindset to
Speaker 1: say I want to continue to do this for another
Speaker 1: five years, six years. I just doesn't. He doesn't strike
Speaker 1: me as that kind of guy. Robint in California, Hi, Robin,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me to day? How are
Speaker 1: you doing? Dan? Great? Robin? Yeah, I got a T
Speaker 1: shirt suggestion forty and I'm kind of surprised now year
Speaker 1: Danets never came up with this one. How does this sound? Trademarked? This?
Speaker 1: Dot dot dot buck you buck you wow? Well, thank you, Robin.
Speaker 1: I don't need to poke the bear like I like
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I respect Tom Brady. I just came up
Speaker 1: with a dopey idea. It's Tom's idea now, with Tompa
Speaker 1: Bay and you got an hour left and that's it.
Speaker 1: Then you were done with selling the Tompa Bay t shirts.
Speaker 1: You can go to the website side and you can
Speaker 1: pick him up. But no, no, I'm not here to
Speaker 1: poke the bear. It's a little aggressive, it is, don't
Speaker 1: you know, Buck you is? I don't think so. We
Speaker 1: wish Tom well with Tampa Bay, we do. We wish
Speaker 1: him nothing but happiness because you know what, he could
Speaker 1: use some good news in his life. Yeah, guy's been
Speaker 1: through a whole lot. You know, he got yelled at
Speaker 1: for going into the park, he went into the wrong home.
Speaker 1: I'm happy he got an offensive tackle. I'm I'm happy
Speaker 1: now that he's he's you know, things are turning around
Speaker 1: in his life. Yea, what if in like ten years
Speaker 1: from now, Tampa Bay is just the biggest thing in
Speaker 1: the world, and it's like he has his own amusement
Speaker 1: park down there and he's made a billion dollars off
Speaker 1: of it, and like, damn it, it's okay, Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll the dice that that he's not gonna
Speaker 1: have Tampa Bay resorts, you know, like Dolly World, like
Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood yeah, Dollywood. Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But hey, if we lose out, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: the first time I've lost out. You know that great
Speaker 1: investment there this day in sports history. Paul nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: David Robinson, the spurs or scored seventy one points against
Speaker 1: the Clippers. That was to win the scoring title? Was
Speaker 1: did he beat Shock? That's right? I think so. Uh,
Speaker 1: let me go around the room. What we learned on
Speaker 1: the program and back left? Todd Fritz, what did you learn?
Speaker 1: I think we all learned this. You Jesse Potter became
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. Chris Simms was also has to do it
Speaker 1: before him. Wow, once again we're trying to get a
Speaker 1: second source aside from Chris Simms. Mclovin, I cover run
Speaker 1: for Tampa Bay. Yeah it was. It was good while
Speaker 1: it lasted, and uh, you know, once again we wished
Speaker 1: Tom the best of luck with that. Seaton Ocunn, you
Speaker 1: absolutely ruined Jesse Palmer's weekend. I think I did. I
Speaker 1: think I did, and then got crushed his spirits there. Yeah, Paully,
Speaker 1: would you learned today the Colts liked love? They didn't
Speaker 1: love love. Mm I think they love love. They just
Speaker 1: didn't love love the way the Packers love love. What
Speaker 1: did I learned? Odd Chris Simms doesn't like the pack
Speaker 1: taking Jordan Love Aaron Rodgers only thirty five. They should
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