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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Another show.

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Speaker 2: We are not yet in April. Maybe by the time

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Speaker 3: Good job Gibbey working once in a.

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Speaker 2: While, working behind the scenes on this one. You may

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Speaker 2: best podcast available, Ryan Day, Thanks for joining us, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: So there's no rest for the winners, I guess I

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Speaker 1: process and recognize somebody who made quick decisions, was accurate,

438
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, and really played at a high level.

439
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 4: So I have a lot of respect for him as

440
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: a player.

441
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: But I can't sit there and tell you I've evaluated

442
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: him and can really give a lot of great input there.

443
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: But you know, a big part of this is fit too.

444
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: When you look at some young quarterbacks when they come

445
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: into the league, you know they they got to you know,

446
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: have the right fit. And I think that's been important

447
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: for CJ. You know, I'm excited to see Justin go

448
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: to the New York Jets, you know, and I just

449
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, for Will and and you know,

450
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: for wherever is going out in this draft.

451
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: You know, the fit will be important, and that's.

452
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: Why when we do our pro day, you know, we

453
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 1: want to give you know, these scouts and personnel all

454
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: the information that they can possibly have to make sure

455
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: it is the right fit. Because a good fit, you know,

456
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: it can just take off. A bad fit, you know

457
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: it can it can be a failure. So that's as

458
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: much as a part of this is anything.

459
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to your guys. Is there such a

460
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: thing as a bad fit for a Mecca Abuka?

461
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: I think there's there's some that are probably better than others.

462
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: But a Mecca can do multiple things. He's, you know,

463
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: somebody who has been really clutch. He's made a lot

464
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: of plays, been extremely productive, He's extremely intelligent, he's durable, powerful,

465
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: can create a lot of space in his route running,

466
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: very detailed in his in his preparation. So you know,

467
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Speaker 1: Mecca is going to play in the NFL for a

468
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Speaker 1: long long time. You know, how it all plays out,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's for the NFL to personnel to decide.

470
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Speaker 4: But whoever drafts.

471
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Speaker 1: A Mecca is going to get somebody that's going to

472
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Speaker 1: bring instant value to their team as a player. But

473
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Speaker 1: then also off the field.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've heard he killed the interviews, which is

475
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: not surprising obviously in Indianapolis. He's going to kill any interview

476
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: when he gets to any team. Day one on that

477
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: podium some of the other guys yesterday.

478
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Speaker 3: First of all, it's ty Leek Okay.

479
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tweaked it.

480
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: But but but it was not something that we felt

481
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: like was like, you know, major or a long term injury.

482
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll be he'll be back to normal here in

483
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Speaker 1: a few weeks.

484
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: Good, that was scary.

485
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: Jordan Hancock for four two. That might surprise some people.

486
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: Now, I mean really good, really good.

487
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Speaker 1: You know, this is somebody who actually had a significant

488
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: hamstring injury early on in his career and then you know,

489
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Speaker 1: kind of worked his way back up and now you're seeing,

490
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Speaker 1: you know, really his best football. I thought he played

491
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Speaker 1: his best football in the playoffs. I thought he was tremendous.

492
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Speaker 1: I think he brings some flexibility and versatility with his game.

493
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Speaker 1: And this is a guy who, again maybe not a

494
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Speaker 1: lot of guys you know, we're talking about a ton,

495
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: but you know, you see the way he runs, you

496
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Speaker 1: see the way he played in the playoffs. Again, a

497
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Speaker 1: real value pick and I think this is another guy

498
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Speaker 1: who's gonna play for a long time in the NFL.

499
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Speaker 2: The way he helped you out down the stretch. Do

500
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Speaker 2: you think Donovan Jackson can play tackle in the NFL.

501
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Speaker 4: I think he can.

502
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, is that his best position?

503
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Speaker 4: Probably not.

504
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Speaker 1: I would say he's a guard that could swing to

505
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: a tackle kind of like he did for US. But

506
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Speaker 1: when you watch what he did at tackle for US

507
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: this year, it's hard to say that he you know,

508
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't be you know, a good tackle in the NFL.

509
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: But I think that's just that's his value too. You know,

510
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: when you have the ability to swing from position to position,

511
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: especially with the limitations in the NFL in terms of

512
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Speaker 1: roster size, and you know, when you're playing an eligibile

513
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: or you know, when you're activating, you know, sometimes you

514
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: know there's seven guys you know that that being that

515
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: being you know something that he's done shown and put

516
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Speaker 1: on film. I know there's a lot of teams that

517
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, watch him, and to me, he's a can't miss.

518
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: Is there any chance any chance I would be crazy

519
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: that your two running backs would end up on the

520
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: same team in the NFL?

521
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Speaker 3: That would be wild, wouldn't it.

522
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess there's a chance, and it

523
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: would be great because you know, they talk about two

524
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: guys who understand about teamwork and because of their unselfishness

525
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: ended up playing their best down the stretch for us

526
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs.

527
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Speaker 4: But two really good backs, different backs, but.

528
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Speaker 1: Both Again, I think you're gonna have long careers in

529
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Speaker 1: the NFL because they're three down backs. You know, Quinn Seawn,

530
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, somebody that we've only had for a year,

531
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Speaker 1: but you know, once he got into the rhythm of

532
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: our offense and how we do things and and more

533
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Speaker 1: of an NFL style of offense with protections and route running,

534
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Speaker 1: you know, it was was great. You know, we had

535
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, some big catches and great protections for us

536
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: down the stretch. But then you also saw Trevion. I think,

537
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, who knows, Travion may may have a better

538
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: career in the NFL than he did in coll It

539
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: just because of his route running ability and his ability

540
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: to be you know, on the field for three downs

541
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: and his home run capability.

542
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that home run capabilities certainly in the

543
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: playoffs here, what's it going to be like without Jack

544
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: Sawyer in the building.

545
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: No, he's in here right now, so I don't know yet,

546
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: So that hasn't changed yet. No, No, he's got a

547
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: dunkin Donuts coffee and walking around and making sure the

548
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: d lin's rocking off the ball. But he's just somebody

549
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: who is just the hard and soul of Buckeye football.

550
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: And you know it's going to be missed. These guys

551
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: are all going to be missed. But this is somebody

552
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: who grew up, you know, in Columbus, wanted to be

553
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: a Buck guy, and so to see a come full

554
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: circle obviously with the play he made and the Cotton Bowl,

555
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: but to win a national championship, certainly, it's it's a

556
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: great story.

557
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: Got two more things for you, Ryan, and I appreciate

558
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: your time. There's been this talk of a not a

559
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: spring game. I know you made the point this week.

560
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: You still want to do the spring game. You know,

561
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: fingers crossed a roster is healthy. There's been this talk

562
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: of potentially Syracuse going to Colorado and having a spring

563
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: game between two schools, which is something at least as

564
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: I can remember, we have never seen happen.

565
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: What do you think of that? I think on the surface,

566
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 4: it's it's a pretty unique idea, and I think there's

567
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 4: certainly merit to it. I think one of the things

568
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: about practicing.

569
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: Now and when there's there's obviously a lot of talk

570
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: about our roster limit going to one oh five. Boy,

571
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: there's a lot of challenges with that because when you

572
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: look at NFL teams, you'd say, well, you know, you

573
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: know they have shorter, you know.

574
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: Smaller rosters for three man rosters.

575
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: Well, when you look on a year to year basis,

576
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: there's guys in and out of that building, you know,

577
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: and it starts with ninety ninety during the preseason and

578
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: they whittle it down.

579
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: And so you know, for us to get to one

580
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: oh five is tough.

581
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: Especially with freshmen and young players who maybe you know,

582
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: aren't ready to get on the field. So when I

583
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: say that, I say that because we can't afford to

584
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: get guys injured. And when you're when you're with your

585
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: own team, you can set the guidelines, you can set

586
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: the rules of engagement. Uh, when you start to put

587
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: two teams together in a practice setting, boy, you know

588
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: a lot of things could happen. You know, you're not

589
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about taking care of your teammates, and

590
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: now you're just worried about competing, and that that's the

591
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: biggest concern I would have. I think it's a great

592
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: idea in terms of competition and those type of things.

593
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I would just worry about, you know, somebody you know

594
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: getting hurt because of you know, you're.

595
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: Not going to maybe you're gonna tackle.

596
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: If you're going to tackle and play a game, I

597
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: think that would probably be the best case scenario.

598
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: But if you're going to practice against somebody.

599
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: I just I see some some situations that could put

600
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: guys in harm's way.

601
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: You see it in the NFL. You know this would

602
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: join practice is day one. Day one's okay, it gets

603
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: a little three to day two is usually on the

604
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: fifth start flying, and you got to warn guys ahead

605
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: of time.

606
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: Can't have the fights spring game though. Fascinating.

607
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: Last thing of the one hundred and forty NFL people

608
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: there yesterday, what percentage would you estimate said.

609
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: Hey, what about what about Jeremiah Smith?

610
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Tell me about him?

611
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: I think.

612
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: Everyone knows who he is. He's obviously become a household name,

613
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: and he's got two more years. So well, we'll talk

614
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: about him, and we'll give one more year before we

615
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: can start.

616
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: Talking about it.

617
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't turn twenty until the day you

618
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: play the team up North this fall.

619
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Speaker 3: He's still nineteen.

620
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: But you know, if you were in this draft just

621
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: saying it would be interesting, Yes, Ryan Day, Uh No,

622
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 2: you're busy.

623
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: It is back to the grind.

624
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 2: Appreciate the time, good luck here in spring practice, and

625
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: good luck getting this team ready over the next five months.

626
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Appreciate it.

627
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: Love having Ryan Day on especially now. I mentioned Jerome

628
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: Baker before, such a big Buckeye presence in the building

629
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Speaker 2: in Berea at the Cross Country Mortgage campus, and he's

630
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he's different, gibbet, but when

631
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: when they opened up spring practice and he had that

632
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: first press conference last week two weeks ago whatever, it

633
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: was like he did kind of concede. Yeah, it's different, Like, yeah,

634
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: you could breathe a little, like a weight has been

635
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: lifted a little.

636
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: Bit, a little bit, a little bit, little anvil, little

637
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Biteah yeah, oh it ran rightfully, so champions prerogative. You're like,

638
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: you've got a little pas. Now you've got some breathing room. Yeah,

639
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: Like now in these days of nil you know, I

640
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: can tell you that, you know, forty eight hours after

641
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: they had a little trophy ceremony at Ohio Stadium, like

642
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: they were having to figure out how they're gonna how

643
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna pay guys to stay. So I mean it's

644
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: a quick turnaround and they're back at it and spring

645
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: balls underway. And but I think it was a really

646
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: great opportunity at their pro day to you know, for

647
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: one final time, thank the seventeen players that are that

648
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: are leaving for everything that they've done for this program.

649
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: And I mean there there's gonna be a lot of

650
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: names called in four weeks in Green Bay that have

651
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: the Ohio State University. At the end mentioned they were

652
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: fourteen of the combine. There were more than that working

653
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: out yesterday.

654
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: Just g Scott, for example, the tight end for some reason,

655
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: didn't get a Combine invite. He was one of the

656
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: guys working out there. Looking ahead, I mentioned the annual

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Speaker 2: meeting next week. Also next for the fourth of April,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be Colorado Pro Day. It is going to

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Speaker 2: be a circus not only with shaudor Sanders, but with

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter obviously as well with the UH with the

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Speaker 2: Iceman Trophy winner. Don't know yet who's gonna work at

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Speaker 2: really don't know, no, I mean we don't Right now.

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Speaker 3: We're hearing Abduel Carter is not gonna work out at

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Speaker 3: Penn State's pro day. That's a legit injury concern. Don't

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Speaker 3: know who's gonna work out.

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Speaker 2: Neither Shador nor Travis Hunter worked out at Big twelve

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Speaker 2: Pro day last week that was in Dallas. Assume they're

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Speaker 2: going to work out. I don't know that they need to.

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Speaker 2: I'd I'd like to see Shoudro Sanders throw as much

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Speaker 2: as I said, I don't care what cam Ward did

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Speaker 2: at as pro day. Cam Woard's got the arbum strength.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be nice to see what Shador

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Speaker 2: does in person. Travis Hunter, I don't need to see

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Speaker 2: him work out again. It's about the interviews and the

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Speaker 2: private stuff that is far more significant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just wonder, you know, you got guys

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Speaker 3: that don't want to work out at the combine. Now

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Speaker 3: you got guys that don't want to work out on

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Speaker 3: their pro days, Like, what's the future of these? You know?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you don't want to hurt your stock, and

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Speaker 3: if your stock's as high as it's going to be

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Speaker 3: like Will Howard. If Will Howard had said the other

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Speaker 3: day at Ohio State's per day, I'm not throwing I

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Speaker 3: would have been like, yeah, all right, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I would have pushed back against that because you know,

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Speaker 2: as you talked about there with coach, most people didn't

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Speaker 2: think you threw that well. And there are reasons like

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Speaker 2: you don't know the guys you're throwing to.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: At the combine yesterday was exactly the opposite. I think too, yes,

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Speaker 2: and I think he answered some critics. But if you

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Speaker 2: didn't like him before, you probably don't like him after

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Speaker 2: the Pro Day. It doesn't matter. You form your opinions

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Speaker 2: and then you go in person. Off season program is

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Speaker 2: going to start soon. We're almost in April. Gonna have

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Speaker 2: guys back in the building. Just friendly reminder when they're

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Speaker 2: back in the building, they're not actually on the field

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Speaker 2: practicing football. It's not football practice.

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Speaker 3: And they don't have to be here. It's voluntary. Volin terry.

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Speaker 3: You can pass. That'll be the overreaction.

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Speaker 2: They should be there, but it's not voluntary. These are

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Speaker 2: These are collectively bargained things as part of your employment agreement,

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Speaker 2: whatever your job is whatever you do for a living,

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Speaker 2: however you put a roof over your head, there's some

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Speaker 2: kind of agreement that there's are there are days when

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Speaker 2: you you actually don't have to come to work, like

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Speaker 2: others can go to work, but like you're not actually obligated.

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Speaker 3: No, I just report to Fela. That's how this goes.

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Speaker 2: And on that note, we will wrap and we'll be

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Speaker 2: back next week. I want to thank the aforementioned justin

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Speaker 2: FeelA and the entire Browns content team and the head

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