WEBVTT - 100723 The Fights in the Comments Section (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Just tuned in a civic cipher. I'm your host, Ramsy's job.

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<v Speaker 1>stick around because we are going to take a moment

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<v Speaker 1>to engage with the comments section on our Instagram which,

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<v Speaker 1>place where we get the most pushback.

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<v Speaker 3>Everywhere else's people's.

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<v Speaker 2>Teen diagram is particularly negative. Yeah, it seems that we

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<v Speaker 2>only get engagement in the way of comments from people

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<v Speaker 2>who sit opposed to us.

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<v Speaker 1>There's tons of likes, but all the comments areve so,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to respond to some of them. Give

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<v Speaker 1>you some talking points in case you have people like

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<v Speaker 1>that in your life. But before we get there, let's

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<v Speaker 1>discuss be becoming a better ally. Today's BOBA was sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>that's Fotmglobal dot com. All right, So today we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about something you can do with the NAACP.

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<v Speaker 3>I will read a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>The student debt crisis has a disproportionate impact on black

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<v Speaker 1>borrows and their families. It is up to us to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to fight to cancel student debt. President Biden made

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<v Speaker 1>a promise to cancel student debt for forty million people.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily he has several tools to deliver on debt relief

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<v Speaker 1>inaction is not an option. The repayment pause ended on

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<v Speaker 1>October first, twenty twenty three, and let it be known,

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Education data shows returning to repayment without

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<v Speaker 1>cancelation will be even worse. Make no mistake, The NAACP

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<v Speaker 1>continues to pursue the cancelation of at least fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of debt per borrower as repayment approaches. We are

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<v Speaker 1>excited to be a part of this Save on Student Debt,

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<v Speaker 1>a national campaign to spread the word about saving on

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<v Speaker 1>a valuable education plan. And if you want to participate,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to the NAACP dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>send a petition. You can also donate to help fund

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<v Speaker 1>these efforts to make sure that we can move past this.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those of you that know, you know this

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<v Speaker 1>will sound kind of redundant. But for those that don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the issues that come up with some

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<v Speaker 1>frequency in terms of black stories, a lot of those

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<v Speaker 1>issues have to do with poverty and debt and lack

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<v Speaker 1>of access to fiscal opportunities. Money makes pretty much everything better,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's why there's a big push for reparations.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why canceling student debt is particularly of particular

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<v Speaker 1>interest to black people because, as I mentioned, disproportionately impacts

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown families on the comments. So cute talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me, because once upon a time I had you

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<v Speaker 1>signed up for our social media stuff, and you had

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<v Speaker 1>to turn that off, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, once upon a time an administrator for our social

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<v Speaker 2>media directly our Civic Cipher Instagram page, and after a

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<v Speaker 2>few hours of seeing the type of engagement we got,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to log out of it and get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I am not bulletproof. Some may know this

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<v Speaker 2>part of my story, some may not, But I was

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<v Speaker 2>I took a four year hiatus from social media, not

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<v Speaker 2>four hours, not four weeks, not four months, four years

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't like the word victim. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>subject to thousands of really really negative online attacks from

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<v Speaker 2>complete strangers because of some things happening in my personal life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean tens of thousands, And I am not

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<v Speaker 2>that person. Like there's a lot of people who don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>they could care less and they could laugh at that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not one of those people. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>to and I regret this now because I had a really,

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<v Speaker 2>really great level of engagement going with some really incredible

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<v Speaker 2>people that I haven't seen since, so I have not

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<v Speaker 2>been able to reconnect with those people. But being subjected

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<v Speaker 2>to those levels of negativity drove me off of social

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<v Speaker 2>media completely. I won't let that happen to me this time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just remove myself from being in rooms and spaces

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm not comfortable. And that's not just on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>that's in real life.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you attack me in any way, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to attack you back, especially if you're somebody I care about.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no fight back. I don't have a point to prove.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to be right. I just throw my

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<v Speaker 2>hands up and remove myself and the type of engagement

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<v Speaker 2>that we get to things that seem so straightforward and decently.

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<v Speaker 2>If you listen to this show, you'll see that even

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm upset, I'm not radical. I don't go to

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<v Speaker 2>any extremes about anything. I don't praise our current president

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<v Speaker 2>or former. I voted for Barack Obama, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get a tattoo. I don't have a Barack Obama flag

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<v Speaker 2>on my house. I don't have a ten foot Barack

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<v Speaker 2>Obama cardboard cutout. He did not become a deity to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just the president and one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>decent in my lifetime. I'm talking about as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not a political correspondent. I cannot rate the

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<v Speaker 2>level of politician really that any of our legislators are right,

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<v Speaker 2>because all of them tend to have a position that's

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<v Speaker 2>more about corporate interest and fiscal benefits to themselves and

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<v Speaker 2>their constituency than to the people that vote for them

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<v Speaker 2>and put them in office. So I really don't. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a big fan of politicians in general, because they

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<v Speaker 2>all say a lot of really amazing things to get elected,

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<v Speaker 2>and sin seem to get to what do they call

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<v Speaker 2>it when you forget amnesia once they get in office.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems to be the truth on both sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the aisles. So I have to just get to the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of decency, and I mean the idea because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know any of these people personally. Like to those

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<v Speaker 2>of you that get in our dms and message us

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<v Speaker 2>like fiery and angry and support of the former president,

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<v Speaker 2>that's weird. He doesn't know you or care about you,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's shown you that he doesn't care about you,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also doesn't know you. And for those of

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<v Speaker 2>you that know me that reach out to me on

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<v Speaker 2>behalf of this weird stranger, that's I won't say that's

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<v Speaker 2>weird because I think weirdo is a compliment, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even call you weird.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, So you know it's interesting, man. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to not only remove myself and as an administrator, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had to mute the page because I'm tagged in

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<v Speaker 2>most of our post so I get all the comments

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just not here for it. So we can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some of the comments that we get. You

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<v Speaker 2>can start us on whatever track you want. Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do it, because I definitely have some that pop right

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<v Speaker 2>to the top of my mind. So yeah, yeah, let'st

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<v Speaker 2>So again we're sharing these with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to respond to them, because we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>respond in the comments section we have. We're on seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eighty radio somewhere in their radio stations. Every week, we

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<v Speaker 1>have thousands of followers. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no sense in need tongue wrestling with or thumb

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling with someone in the comment section. But again, we

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<v Speaker 1>recognize and respect the fact that as a listener, you

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<v Speaker 1>might have people in your world that feel this way.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the comments came up on a video

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<v Speaker 1>that Q posted recently where he was talking about there

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<v Speaker 1>was a conservative gentleman who was attacking a black woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was trying to fund other women of colors businesses

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<v Speaker 1>and startups. Attacked her because because of that she's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fund women of color. So it's crazy. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>one of the comments says, what about Oprah, Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z, Lil Wayne, et cetera. Maybe if you work

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<v Speaker 1>as hard as they did instead of complaining and playing

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<v Speaker 1>the victim, you'd have power as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people did he named, he said, Oprah, Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay z Lil Wayne, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, for those four people, you people should just shut

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<v Speaker 2>up and be happy because this is a meritocracy and

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<v Speaker 2>all that takes is hard work. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So so let me let me give you something,

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<v Speaker 1>some food for thought, just in case something like this

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<v Speaker 1>comes up in your world. So what are these people

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<v Speaker 1>have in common, Oprah, Michael Jordan, jay z Lil Wayne. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all celebrities working entertainment. Okay, Entertainment is a very

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<v Speaker 1>very very very very very very very small field. We

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<v Speaker 1>work in entertainment. It's very small, very competitive. I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching a video you might have shared it with me,

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<v Speaker 1>where there was a gentleman explaining how every year there

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<v Speaker 1>might be a million children that want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA, but ultimately seven people are drafted into the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA something like that every every year or something. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure exactly what the numbers, but it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>small amount of number of people that get drafted into

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<v Speaker 1>the to the year, more than seven. But wait whatever, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so there's like a million people that want to

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<v Speaker 1>play and it ends up being like or on a team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's four people on a team something like

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<v Speaker 1>that in an area. So all of these million kids

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<v Speaker 1>are all competing for the these well, the number was seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I can't quote the video directly, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the number he used. So I'm not sure how

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<v Speaker 1>he was explaining it. But you have all these kids

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<v Speaker 1>competing for what was effectively seven full time jobs. And

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, sorry there was I forgot the number of

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<v Speaker 1>what you said, but it was the job lasts for

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<v Speaker 1>seven years on average.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the number seven. Okay, so forgive me.

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<v Speaker 1>But the long and short of it is, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>million kids that want to play in the NBA, and

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<v Speaker 1>the number of jobs that are available is very small.

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<v Speaker 2>They draft in the two rounds about sixty four players

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<v Speaker 2>a year.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, So you have sixty four jobs, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I think some of them only last seven years

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So in terms of like a full career for your life,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only a handful of those million people that will

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<v Speaker 1>actually end up.

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<v Speaker 2>With that job.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the same holds true with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment business. That's sports entertainment, but the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment business. So you're going to look at people who, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>have worked hard. But as you know, hard work isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that goes into this and sports in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>you need like some sort of genetic advantage, you need

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<v Speaker 1>the right sort of guidance, you need to be free

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<v Speaker 1>of all the encumbrances that comes along with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the truth is you have to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>top zero point zero, zero zero whatever percent of the athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't really matter how hard you work. There's

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<v Speaker 1>people that work day in and day out and day

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<v Speaker 1>in and day out that will never go to the

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<v Speaker 1>If I wanted to work all day, I'm five foot

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<v Speaker 1>eight of never going to the NBA. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>how hard I work. Right in terms of Oprah, In

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<v Speaker 1>terms of Little Wayne, you know, there's these are people

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<v Speaker 1>that are born with like natural gifts and they couple

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<v Speaker 1>that with hard work. Right now, let's talk about something

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a little bit more sense. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about stem jobs, there might be one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand of those jobs available, right but what you need

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<v Speaker 1>is people to show these kids who are born in environments.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a great deal of hopelessness and not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in the way of access to those particular opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>where you can and there's the opportunity to create that

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<v Speaker 1>connective tissue and to shape those outcomes for those students, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you start to have impact on the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of income that comes into black households and black communities

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth, and start changing the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>world wire. And it's not just a matter of working hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a matter of what opportunities exist. And for those

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<v Speaker 1>people that look at black people and say, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to stop selling drugs your own community, and

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<v Speaker 1>you got to, you know, stop committing crimes and whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not accounting for the fact that desperate people and

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<v Speaker 1>desperate circumstances do desperate things. This is a fundamental fact

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<v Speaker 1>of humanity or really of any creature of life.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely not limited to black people. I want to use

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<v Speaker 2>an extreme example on purpose. There was a movie that

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<v Speaker 2>came out years ago. I don't remember the name of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but essentially a plane crashed in the mountains and it

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<v Speaker 2>was freezing cold, oh and they started eating it. Eventually

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<v Speaker 2>they ran out of food and cannibalized to survive. Not

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<v Speaker 2>because they were awful, not because they were criminals, because

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<v Speaker 2>they were dying. It's we want to make it more

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<v Speaker 2>complicated than that, because we want to have a clear

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<v Speaker 2>moral compass when we make decisions that continually and perpetually

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<v Speaker 2>disenfranchise other people. We don't want to be seen as

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<v Speaker 2>bad people. And I don't know why I'm saying we

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't fit into that group. But that group

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<v Speaker 2>they defend those principles and those ideals so hard so

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<v Speaker 2>they can sleep at night. Yeah right, There's no way

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm responsible or partly responsible, or even participating in

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<v Speaker 2>a system that's responsible for causing these people to be

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<v Speaker 2>oppressed and poor and homeless. It has to just be

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<v Speaker 2>because they're black and criminal and lazy. Oh yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not and at some point we have to accept

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<v Speaker 2>that that's not the case. This gentleman used, or this

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<v Speaker 2>young lady whoever used? Jay Z and Lila Wayne ass

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<v Speaker 2>right where the greatest of all time at what they do? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I have two examples to point to, because Chris Rock

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<v Speaker 2>made a joke about this at one point, jay Z

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<v Speaker 2>and Mary J. Blige being his neighbors. Their neighbor was

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<v Speaker 2>a white dentist He didn't invent teeth. He did not

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<v Speaker 2>invent teeth or dentistry. He was just a dentist. They

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<v Speaker 2>Mary J. Blige, Chris Rock, and jay Z, three of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest who ever exist in their fields. Their neighbor,

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<v Speaker 2>a white dentist, not the greatest dentist of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Write another example. Just Spotify alone, daily, sixty thousand songs

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<v Speaker 2>are uploaded a day from artists all over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever listen to the radio, of course, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>how many songs you think you're here? Day thirty of

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<v Speaker 2>the same songs over and over again for months at

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<v Speaker 2>a time, without there being a new song that breaks

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<v Speaker 2>into that cycle. So fifty nine point nine of fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred and ninety nine of those songs will never hear.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane. So the idea that you just work hard

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<v Speaker 2>and keep uploading and keep recording and keep writing you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be jay.

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<v Speaker 1>Z one day don't work that way. That's not how

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<v Speaker 1>this works. And let me add to that, because again

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about entertainment. If he was talking about any

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<v Speaker 1>other industry where black people were successful and they had

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<v Speaker 1>the money and all that stuff to go with it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, yeah, let's keep talking. Let's keep having

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation. But he's only talking about entertainment. So do

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<v Speaker 1>me your favorite Go to an audition or a speaking role,

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<v Speaker 1>in a paid speaking role in pretty much any on

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<v Speaker 1>the level production, film, television, whatever, and see how many

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<v Speaker 1>people are auditioning, and then see how many people get cast,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'll start to see how.

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<v Speaker 2>See how successful that project is, because there are TV shows,

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<v Speaker 2>commercials and movies that get made that are not successful

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<v Speaker 2>that too, So then you're back at square one, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to audition again.

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<v Speaker 1>So again you're starting to see how limited your scope

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<v Speaker 1>is and the field is there, and how unrealistic it

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<v Speaker 1>is to just say, well, just work like these people

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's three of those people are billionaires. Yeah, okay, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're talking about private equity, ask us to

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<v Speaker 2>search money capital vcs, you know, being an approved investor,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think could ever get to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>you'll make a billion dollars. That that world doesn't exist,

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<v Speaker 2>sir or ma'am. I don't think this individual is asse equated.

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous comment.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another comment, says BLM pulled it over y'all's eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and took your money many of my favorite many of

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<v Speaker 1>you's freedom and turned that into mansions and millions for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And IT and Antifa are homegrown terrorist organizations attacking, burning, looting,

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<v Speaker 1>and killing indiscriminately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that happened, all right? Hold on, hold on, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>No one buys the BLM virtue signaling stuff anymore unless

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<v Speaker 1>they willfully choose to be ignorant or want to start

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<v Speaker 1>the burning slash murder, slash degenerate stuff cycle all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a skull emoji. Don't get hung up. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say black lives matter, I'm talking about myself,

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<v Speaker 2>my mother, my friends, my siblings, my children, my family,

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<v Speaker 2>my classmates, my coworkers. I'm not talking about the name

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<v Speaker 2>of an organization, however you feel about that organization. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not what I'm talking about. And I'm saying what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about because this comment was in response to a

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<v Speaker 2>video where I said those words, and I even explained

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<v Speaker 2>in the video, sir or ma'am, if you just press

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<v Speaker 2>rewind or watch again or listen the first time, that

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<v Speaker 2>when we say black power, black girl magic, and black

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<v Speaker 2>lives matter, that we are simply affirming our worth to

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<v Speaker 2>a country that has gone out of its way for

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<v Speaker 2>its entire history to show us that those words aren't true.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard stop period.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything you said, okay, okay, so let me let me

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<v Speaker 3>add something to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not apply. Let me. I had to stop myself

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<v Speaker 2>from getting very very angry just there. The things that

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<v Speaker 2>you said have nothing to do with what I said, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so let me add something to that real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you who've never worked in activism, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how activism works.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that the powers that be.

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<v Speaker 1>Have done to discredit the Nation of Islam, or to

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<v Speaker 1>discredit doctor King or Malcolm X or Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton,

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Panthers, on and on, is they try their

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<v Speaker 1>best to discredit how they are spending money, in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to villainizing them, saying that they're black supremacists and all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of other wid stuff. But we're talking about money here,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the issue with this guy and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people when they talk about BLM the organization. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have not been an activist, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how scary that is. If you have kids, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever, you're affirming your life and your right to exist. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So when I start my activism, I live in an apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Live in an apartment. You know, people can just walk

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<v Speaker 1>right up to your front door and it's made out

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<v Speaker 1>of cardboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. If I.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a higher profile, then that comes with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who hate me, would rather see me dead.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of these people are crazy people.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy people exist on the Internet and people get docked,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means that they put your information up on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. So all of a sudden, your apartment with

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<v Speaker 1>the cardboard door is not safe anymore. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>how many guns you try to purchase or bulletproof vest

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Your life is at risk walking down the

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<v Speaker 1>street and at home when you're asleep. Somebody can just

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<v Speaker 1>kick that door, ride open, unload in your house and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Of your story.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants that, right, So you can't stay there. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to move somewhere more secure, probably somewhere with a gate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when people start pointing to the money of BLM

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<v Speaker 1>and they start looking at these people, first things first, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're at the helm of an enormous organization, you

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<v Speaker 1>draw a salary.

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<v Speaker 3>Any organization. It could be McDonald's, it could be whatever charities,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ronald McDonald's Cross, Ronald McDonald's children's charities, the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of that organization makes a lot of money, enough to

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<v Speaker 1>afford whatever mansion that individual lives. And then pick again,

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<v Speaker 1>Red Cross, pick anyone, because there's still corporations and you

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<v Speaker 1>still need to pay for that executive level talent. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>they would just go and work for a for profit company.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>These people aren't just bums and broke people at the

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<v Speaker 1>helm of these huge organizations. These women are no different.

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<v Speaker 1>But because they're black, the optics look worse because we've

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<v Speaker 1>been taught to view dobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't actually look worse. They're just framed works framed worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to make sure I knocked this out in

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<v Speaker 1>just a second because there's a lot more comms we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get to, but as far as this one,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a tired argument, to me, this was

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<v Speaker 1>the most important one. So so what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say is that for those people, whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 1>they're paying themselves, which I don't suspect is more than

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<v Speaker 1>someone at the Ronald McDonald house to do the work

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing. Not everybody volunteers their time for free.

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<v Speaker 1>We are radio professor professionals, me and Q.

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<v Speaker 3>We should be getting paid for the work that we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We always have.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we've moved into this space, we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>paid for it, but we will and that will be okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're professionals at what we do. Okay, they're getting paid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they purchase a more secure residence because their

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<v Speaker 1>life is at risk. And then what is the media

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<v Speaker 1>frame it as? Oh, they bought mansions with your BLM money. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So again the optics of these black organizations that are

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<v Speaker 1>affirming our right to exist and our right to live

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<v Speaker 1>is twisted. And then it you know, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>candae Owens to co sign it, and then we all

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<v Speaker 1>look like bad folks. Right, So I would tell you

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<v Speaker 1>to take this comment, twist it up, and I'll leave

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<v Speaker 1>it right there. All right, With that in mind, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for tuning into another episode of Civic Cipher. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Ramsay's.

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<v Speaker 2>Jah he is' jah. I am frustrated, of course, And

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<v Speaker 2>again I wasn't talking about BLM the organization. I was

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<v Speaker 2>simply saying something that you should think is true as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Black lives matter as do yours. But there's no need

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<v Speaker 2>to affirm that in this country because you built the

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<v Speaker 2>place and it's always been structured for your benefit. And

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<v Speaker 2>by you, I mean anybody offended by me saying black

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<v Speaker 2>lives matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, do us a favor, though we got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more comments that we couldn't even get to follow us

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we're talking about. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>engage with everything just because it's so taxing and overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 1>but we could use the support.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to change the world here and you know

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<v Speaker 3>this is what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, till next week out peace,