1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week twelve edition, Get off 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: the Mat Edition. God Zach Erstman with me Bird Gang. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Postgame last week after the loss of the forty nine Ers, 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon told reporters what he had just told the team. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: We're on the mat, but when the alarm goes off tomorrow, 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: you better wake up, come to work, and get off 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: the mat. So do we see the Cardinals get off 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: the mat on Sunday? The opponent the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: playing good football right now. Kay Stevens, team reporter for 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, joins the show as we head into 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: enemy territory at Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine nine, and 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: it starts now. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: Buona Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai proud partner of 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast visit Azycardinals 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: dot Com Slash podcast pop right. 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: At the five, hit to the ends up for the 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: Cardinal touchdown. Drey McBride, he's been an absolute monitor. Here's 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Craig Griolo. 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: So this is when you know the message is being 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: received in the locker room when players start repeating what 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: the head coach says. And this is something Zach that 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: we have seen heard not only this season, but going 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: back to Jonathan Gannon's first year here with the Arizona Cardinals. 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: But it was postgame on Sunday, following the loss of 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, JG telling the reporters what he 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: told the team about, Hey, we're on the mat and 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: now it's time to get off the mat. Well, a 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: couple of days later, Paris Johnson in front of his 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: locker talked about a get off the mat mentality. Question 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: is do we see that on Sunday? Because I hope 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: we do see it on Sunday. 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett after the game also said, if you're not 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: playing on getting off the mat, don't even walk into 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: the building. So that's definitely been the mindset that a 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: lot of these guys have had. It's funny. Johnathagannon has 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: used so many boxer fighting analogies. He's talked about how 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: each week's around, and you know, you can't let the 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: previous round dictate what you do in that current round 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: or in the next round. But when you look at it. 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: The Cardinals are in a fight, They're banged up, they're injured, 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: they are in a brawl in a lot of ways. 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: But they have played, you know, they have played through it, 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: and it hasn't always resulted in the in the wins. 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: But you have to hope that that turns around. We 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: always say, or at least I always say, it always 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: starts with one. They need that one this weekend against Jacksonville. 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars come in a playoff team if the season ended today, 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: which is not, but if it did, they'd be the 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: seventh seed out of the AFC. Jaguars six and four, 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals three and seven, And certainly, yes, they are fighting 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: for that win and right now I guess fighting themselves 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: a little bit as far as injuries are concerned, because 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: Zacha would not be a football Friday if we were 56 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: not in here talking about an injury. And let's go 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: through it before we hear from Kai about the matchup 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars coming up on Sunday. JOHNA. Williams, for 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: the second straight year, his season is going to end 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: on injured reserve. That shoulder requires surgery. According to JG and, JOHNA. 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Williams has been placed on ir. That makes eighteen different 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: players currently on injured reserve. 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's a lot. When you mentioned the 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: number eighteen earlier, I thought of Marvin Harrison Junior for 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: the obvious reason, and I thought of Michael Wilson and 66 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: his eighteen targets in the game against the San Francisco 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: forty nine ers. And then when you say number eighteen 68 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: and it's about the amount of players on injured reserve, 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: it's tough. Look, that's that's a lot of your roster. 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do math here because I'm not 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: good with math. As you know, you're just not a 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: math math. I'm not a math guy at all. Fifth 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: grade math is challenging for me. But it's it's tough. 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: It's tough, and I don't I don't need to be 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: a mathematician to know how to difficult that that is to overcome. 76 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: But it's the no known part of the game. As 77 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: Jonathan again and likes to say, you know that this 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: is going to end up happening, you never want it 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: to happen, You never wish for it to happen. And 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: in Jonah Williams case, back to back seasons that it 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: ends on injured reserves. So it's tough for the right 82 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: tackle that the Cardinals invested a lot of money in 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: during the free free agency cycle last year. They thought 84 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: he'd be the perfect compliment to go with Paris Johnson 85 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: junior by Unfortunately, for Jonah just it's been tough staying healthy. 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Now, the question is what happens moving forward. Well, the 87 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: obvious answer is Calvin Beacham just slides into that spot. 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: Well maybe because beach has been dealing with a growing 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: issue this week and that happened late in the game 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, So hey could be beach 91 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: But maybe it's a split between beach and Josh Fryer, 92 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: who finished last week's game. And here's an undrafted rookie 93 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: free agent out of Ohio State that once upon a 94 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: time teammates with Paris Johnson, teammates here with the Ozona Cardinals, 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: and they could be booking tackles against the Jaguars. 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's actually go back a little bit. Beacham left 97 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: the game with a coin injury, but he entered the 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: week on the injury report with an NAR slash groin 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: and typically we see Calvin Beacham mispractice on Wednesday, and 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: it's because of arrest day, and you don't really think 101 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: much of it, and you kind of look at the 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: groin issue on the injury report is kind of just 103 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: a formality of needing to include it. Him leaving the 104 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: game with a groin injury reaggravating it is certainly concerning, 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: and that's where my attention is gonna be. He was 106 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: not at practice on Wednesday, he was not at practice 107 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: on Thursday. We're recording this before Friday's practice, so I'm 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: not sure if he's going to be out there. If 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: he's not out there, then the rookie right tackle is 110 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: gonna be in line and it's gonna be a little 111 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: bit of a Columbus reunion against the Jacksonville Jaguars. And look, 112 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Josh Ryer does not 113 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: play like an undrafted guy. That's something that I wrote 114 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: an article about during the offseason about signing him and 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: bringing him in, and Paris Johnson Junior set to me 116 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: and people on cover too, our Bird Gang listeners heard 117 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: me say this before. Paris Johnson said to me that 118 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: whatever building gets Josh Fryer, whether it's draft or sign, 119 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: is going to have a star in the industry in 120 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: their building. Fortunately for the Cardinals they have that star 121 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: out there. And then, look, this is still developing. He's 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: not your franchise right tackle right now. There's still a 123 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: lot of growth that you need to see from the rookie. 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: But he in the the handful of snaps he played 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: in place of Calvin Beacham and working in his role 126 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: as kind of that muscle hat six offensive lineman, third 127 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: tight end set that the Cardinals like to utilize, he 128 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: earned some pretty good praise. 129 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a lot of praise on Friday from 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: JG not only in the development but in his football IQ. 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not making a ton of mistakes, and 132 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: if he does make a mistake, he's not making the 133 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: same mistake twice. That's what you always want to see 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: happen from anybody, regardless of whether you're a rookie or 135 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: a ten year vent. But potentially the Cardinals again, yeah, 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. I mean, as far as you know, 137 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: right tackle of the future that can be discussed and 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: a discussion point in the offseason, but right now, Calvin Beacham, 139 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Josh Fryer, and then we kind of see what. 140 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: Happened Montre Jacobs is on the roster and. 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: It's it's again it could be it could be interesting 142 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: to pay attention to that because you're at that point 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: in the season regardless of what happens on Sunday, Hey, 144 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: let's see what some of these younger pieces can do. 145 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: I e. 146 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: And Isaiah Adams who got playing time last week in 147 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: a rotation with Will Hernandez. A lot of that was 148 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: health related and again something to keep an eye on, 149 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: because when you're three and seven, it's an eye towards 150 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 1: not only what you currently have, but an eye towards 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: the future. 152 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're trying to show why you deserve to be 153 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: on the team. When you when you have the record 154 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: like the Cardinals do, it's it's fair to reevaluate a 155 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: lot of the pieces on your roster. And that's something 156 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: that Mani Austin for it has definitely keeping a watchful 157 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: eye on as much as they're looking outwardly and to 158 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: see what's going on in the college landscape and the 159 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: professional landscape, to see what pieces are out there that 160 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: could help this Cardinals team. You're also looking to see 161 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: who is helping the current Cardinals team. Now the injuries, 162 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: you can't fault players for him because of just how 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: physical the game is now. There's I don't recall the 164 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: play that Jonah Williams exited on with the shoulder. With 165 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: the shoulder injury that's going to require the surgery, but 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: you have to just try to show why you belong 167 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: on this team for a lot of these players. Kelvin 168 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: Beacham has established himself the fourteen year NFL veteran. He's 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: done a really solid job and it was an adjustment 170 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: for him sliding into more of a reserved role. But 171 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: how bad it with the injuries. As much as it's 172 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: been a reserved role for him, I'm pretty sure he 173 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: has played more games than he has sat since Johnathanganna 174 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: has been in the building. 175 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: More injury news, Baron Browning is going to miss a 176 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: second straight game because of a concussion. Vivan Harrison Junior 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: we know is going to miss a second straight game 178 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: as he recovers from an appendicitis and then Amari de 179 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: Mercado has already been ruled out with an ankle issue. 180 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on the running back room because this 181 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: week Trey Benson had his practice window opened up yet 182 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: On Friday, when asked about Trey. Yeah, JG likes what 183 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: he has seen in practice, but not ready to commit. 184 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: And then we get the news, not only as Jenna 185 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Williams on IR, but Jamar Jefferson has been signed from 186 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the practice squad to the active roster to bolster that 187 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: running back room that was already depleted because of injury. 188 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: So again, we can speculate about Trey Benson, whether it's 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: this week or next week. But when you sign someone 190 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: off the practice squad to the active roster to give 191 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: you three healthy running backs on a Friday before Sunday, 192 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: my guess is we wait a week at least a 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: week before you see Trey's return. 194 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be tough, but look the Cardinals with 195 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: this news, I'm pretty sure have fifty two players on 196 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: the act cross, so there is still one spot out there. 197 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't necessarily sign off on the fact that Trey 198 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: Benson's not ready yet. I don't know, but you do 199 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: have players like Hayden Connor who had his practice window 200 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: open that he could potentially be that fifty third player. 201 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: Maybe Trey Benson is ready, I'm not too sure. Out there, 202 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: the news to signing Jamar Jefferson and then signing a 203 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: practice squad running back Sinceer McCormick. That is definitely something 204 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: that is indicating that it might not be time for 205 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: Trey Benson yet. But Jonathan Gannon said he wanted to 206 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: see how Trey Benson looked on Friday at practice. It'll 207 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: be a very important one. He was limited both the 208 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: two days. We had an up close to look at 209 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: Trey Benson because we were all in the bubble. On Wednesday, 210 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: he was moving, but he also I made the comment 211 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 3: to him, I said, welcome back, and he goes, he 212 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: goes getting used to it. He's still getting back used 213 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: to it. He's been out for a seven weeks, six games. 214 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: It's not an easy thing to just pick up and 215 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: get right back out there on the practice field. But 216 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: he'll definitely be somebody keep an eye on. 217 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Probably will be listed as limited as there will be 218 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: a number of players listed as limited on product questionable 219 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: going into the weekend, so keep an eye out for 220 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: those moves potential moves. On Saturday, the day before, the 221 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals host the Jacksonville Jaguars again, the Jaguars a playoff 222 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: team if the season ended today. Two five is the 223 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: kickoff on Sunday nine thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on 224 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network for more on this matchup. 225 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: As we mentioned off the top, Zach and I had 226 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: the chance to speak with Kai Stevens, team reporter for 227 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Here now is our conversation. So we don't 228 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: see the Jaguars a lot. So let's start big picture here, Kai, 229 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: what do you think is the biggest reason why Jacksonville 230 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: is a playoff team if the season ended. 231 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: Today, It's got to be the coaching change. I mean, 232 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: we had a huge overhaul. Obviously, they changed general managers. 233 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: They brought in Liam Cohen from Tampa Bay Bucks, who 234 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: was their offensive coordinator last season. We have some other 235 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: structural changes in the front office, but they've just been 236 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: a huge culture shift here. Obviously there's been some issues 237 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: in Jacksonville for quite some time, but just kind of 238 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: the shift that Liam Cohens brought in. He's very transparent 239 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: with how they communicate throughout the franchise, to the media, 240 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: to the players. That's been a huge difference and just 241 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: you know, being upfront and honest, and they're also not 242 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 4: afraid to change things. When they played against the Texans, 243 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: they blew a huge lead in the fourth quarter and 244 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: that would have been devastating, the largest lead they've ever 245 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: blown in franchise history. So they were able to come 246 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: back and be like, listen, that's not good enough. We 247 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: can't be doing that every week if we want to 248 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: win football games. So the way they came out against 249 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: the Chargers, which had been on a couple game winning 250 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: streak at that point, had looked very good, came out 251 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 4: dominated from start to finish. So to see that after 252 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: kind of just a very disappointing finish in Houston, that 253 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: was huge and that's something if they can build off 254 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: of it will make them a playoff team. 255 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: I know with James Gladstone, there was a lot of 256 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: talk about his age, and same thing with Liam Cohen, 257 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: just how much has that youthfulness started to add a 258 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: different perspective in the building. 259 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: They're certainly youthful, but a lot of them have been 260 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 4: you know, these are people that have been involved in 261 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: football since they were teenagers playing football before that, but 262 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: straight out of school just kind of heading right into coaching. 263 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: And then James Gladstone's been involved in the Rams organization 264 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: for almost a decade at this point, so there's experience there, 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 4: and I think for me, what I've experienced with them 266 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: is just they're open to doing things a different way. Right. 267 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: I think a lot of old school football people can 268 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: be kind of set in their ways. If they draft 269 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: a player, they don't want to give up on the player, 270 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: and that's a good thing, but you know, maybe to 271 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: a fault at a certain point if something doesn't work out. 272 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: And I think what they're open to is, hey, let's 273 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: try this. If it doesn't work, we're okay to pivot, 274 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: which we've seen a lot here before. People come in 275 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: or stuck to their guns, stick to their guns and 276 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 4: then sometimes to a fault. So at least from what 277 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: we've seen so far, they're open to different kinds of 278 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: ways of doing things. And then maybe it's not the 279 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: most popular, but if it works at work. 280 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: You talked about the willingness to make moves. Obviously, one 281 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: of the biggest moves that was made out there was 282 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: on draft day and with the with the movie to 283 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: go up and get Travis Hunter, who has been on 284 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: injury reserve. But I'm just curious. So normally, when the 285 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: team's in the top five and they lose a top 286 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: five pick the season might be on, you know, on 287 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: the brink of something bad happening. That hasn't been the case. 288 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: But I'm just curious in what ways has Travis Hunter's 289 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: absence been felt the most? 290 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: I think obviously anytime he was a player like that, 291 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: especially here where we had him playing both ways on 292 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: both sides of the football. What was difficult for him early, 293 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: I think was he's still a rookie, so getting used 294 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: to playing wide receiver, but he was mostly playing one 295 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: position and trying to get used to all the different 296 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: positions he would be needed as he's naturally a better corner. 297 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: So for us, there's tons of secondary issues. He's certainly 298 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: missed on that side of the football. But then my 299 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: offense has just never quite gotten it together with the 300 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: pass game where it's been totally dominant. Where we've seen 301 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 4: them be successful is when they established the run. So 302 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: he's certainly missed right now because he can be that 303 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: kind of big play. Like every game there was one 304 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: big play that he would may usually on offense, but 305 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: he's had some great defensive plays as well. So for us, 306 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: it's usually just if it's one of those games where 307 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: it's really back and forth really tight. He would always 308 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: find a way to make that big play at some point. 309 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: So they definitely missed that. They could certainly use that, 310 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: and I think it'll be a little more noticeable as 311 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: the season goes along. 312 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned the run game last week almost two hundred 313 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: rushing yards, but two of the last three games since 314 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: the bye week one hundred and fifty plus rushing yards. 315 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: What has kind of unlocked that aspect of the Jaguars offense. 316 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: I mean, it has to be their focus. So when 317 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: Liam Cohen came in, the first thing he said was 318 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: you have to established the run. And everybody says that, 319 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: of course, but he really meant it. And they kind 320 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: of overhauled the offensive line a little bit. They brought 321 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: in Robert Kinsey, who worked with at center, who worked 322 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: with Liam Cohen in Tampa last year. He's kind of 323 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: brought a nice presence, veteran presence to the center of 324 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: that line. And then also just they've had some running 325 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: backs where they've had Travis Etn obviously came in the 326 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: same draft class as Tarbor Lawrence, but probably didn't have 327 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: a ton of coaches that were, you know, really motivated 328 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: to run the football and we've seen now that they're 329 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: focusing on that he can be that guy the contract 330 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: here for him. He's playing with motivation and just having 331 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: a consistency on the offensive line that we haven't seen 332 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: here in previous years. It's been a lot. That's been 333 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: the way that they've been winning football games. 334 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: How about what the utilization of the tight end now 335 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: that Brenton Strange has had his practice window open. He 336 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: was a player that I think started to rise on 337 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: the scene pretty quickly this year, and then obviously the 338 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: injury took him out. I've heard that there might be 339 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: expectations that he is playing this week if he is 340 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: one hundred percent healthy. Just and what if he does play, 341 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: what should the Cardinals defense expect to see. 342 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: So the thing about Brenton Strange is he is as 343 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 4: good of a blocker as he is a pass catcher. 344 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: In this offense, which you don't see very often is 345 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: usually one or the other with tight ends. They either 346 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: kind of want to be a wide receiver or they're 347 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: doing the nitty gritty in the blocking. He's the best 348 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: blocker on this team and that's what's crazy about them 349 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: being successful in the run game all the past couple 350 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: of weeks they've been doing without Britton Strange, who's their 351 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: best blocker, and he usually breaks up breaks something open 352 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: for one of these large If we ever see those 353 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: explosive plays in the run game, it's usually Brenton Strange 354 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: doing it. So for us, a lot of the pass 355 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: game troubles. Brenton went out. He went on ir SO 356 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: Monday Night Football against the Chiefs, who's been out over 357 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: a month. At this point, we do expect him to 358 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: go this weekend. It might be closer to a game 359 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: time decision, but he has had that full week of 360 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: practice now. So as far as pass catching goes, He's 361 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: just really really reliable on third down and Trevor Lawrence 362 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: really looks for him there. So if you ever see 363 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: like a third and long, that's where he's going to go. 364 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: It's odd you go this long in an interview and 365 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: you don't bring up the quarterback, especially when it's a 366 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: former number one overall quarterback and Trevor Lawrence. The numbers 367 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: don't look good, but you're still winning games. What is 368 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: kind of prevented Trevor to kind of have that explosive 369 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: offense or is he just not needed this or at 370 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: least right now. 371 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 4: I just don't know if it's built that way right 372 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: now for their success. Obviously, we bring in a new 373 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: regime in the front office, they're bringing in some players 374 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: in free agency, they've had their first raft class, but 375 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: they still don't have the team built the way they 376 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: want to have it built right now. So with a 377 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 4: way I think Liam Culhan wants to operate on offense, 378 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if he has all the parts that 379 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: he would ideally have to run it the way he 380 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: wants to. And obviously, with the injuries right now, Brian 381 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: Thomas Junior has been nicked up and injured and kind 382 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: of not playing up to Pars Travis Hunters down for 383 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: the year, so he hasn't had the wide receivers that 384 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 4: he'd probably like right now, and then Brent Strange being 385 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: out as well. So for Trevor Lawrence, I mean, it's 386 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: it's the name of game with him is it's inconsistency. 387 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 4: He'll make a throw where he'll look up and you'll 388 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 4: be like, that is beautiful on a dime, maybe five 389 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: people that can make that throw. Then he'll make another 390 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: throw and you're like, it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. 391 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 4: So it's a little bit of both with that, and 392 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: that's kind of the experience of watching trev Lawrence at times. 393 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: So right now we're just kind of looking at him 394 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 4: as being more of being able to run this offense effectively, 395 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 4: make the throws when he needs to, but also setting 396 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: up the run game. 397 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: You talked about with Brian Thomas Junior being absent with 398 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: his injury, how has Parker Washington been able to start 399 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: to craft a role for himself. I know he's good 400 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: on special teams, but within the offense it seems like 401 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: he's starting to find his footing a little bit more 402 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: as well. 403 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Trevor Lawrence really values on offense players that 404 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: can run their routes effectively and be in the right spot. 405 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: So for him, like, yes, it's nice to have a 406 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: physical receiver, but for him, he just wants you to 407 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: find that window and be there when he throws the football. 408 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: So Parker has become a reliable source for him and 409 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: they kind of have that trust. He knows where he's 410 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 4: going to be. Also, Parker's very physical, Like you look 411 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: at him kind of maybe assume he'd be more of 412 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: a slot guy, just kind of over the middle, like 413 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: short passes, but he'll go up and get it. And 414 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: it's pretty funny considering his size. Maybe you don't see it, 415 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: but he'll go up and he'll fight for a ball 416 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: as well. So just having a reliable source and he'll 417 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: play through injuries too. He's just a tough guy and 418 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: a good teammate. 419 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: Let's switch it up and talk about the Jaguars defense 420 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: and Cardinals head coach Jonathan again in this week mentioned 421 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: one specific aspect of the Jaguars defense. JG doesn't talk 422 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: a lot about stats, but what he does value is 423 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: the value of the football and he mentioned the takeaways. 424 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: Eighteen takeaways thirteen interceptions by the Jaguars defense is what 425 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: has work so well on that side of the ball. 426 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so they came out crazy on fire, was like 427 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: three takeaways games first three or four games this season, 428 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: So it's cool to little. They still kind of average 429 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: around one takeaway game and for them it's just Anthony 430 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: Campanili coming in the new defensive coordinator, came out of 431 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: Cream Bay last year. He just loves like letting his 432 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: players be a little physical fly rounds, kind of play 433 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: to the ball as much as possible. Obviously, you want 434 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 4: to give up big plays, but just being able to 435 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: turn look at the ball and make a play on it. 436 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: We've seen a ton of plays from Devin Lloyd this year, 437 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: who's been playing tremendous. He's in a contract year as well. 438 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: He's always around the football. Forced fumbled interceptions, I think 439 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: he has four, so he's been a big part of that. 440 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 4: And then Jordan Lewis, who may or may not play 441 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: this week. He's dealing with a neck injury. He's been 442 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 4: great for the secondary coming over from Dallas. Just a 443 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 4: really good, you know, leader in the secondary and also 444 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: just always flying around the football. 445 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: And I know that former Cardinal Dennis Gardak said that 446 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: that's kind of who we are as a defense at Jacksonville. 447 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: How is Dennis doing. He's a fan favorite out here. 448 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: I think the Bird gang's excited to see him make 449 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: his return. It might be a little bit weird to 450 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: see him until but how has he been able to 451 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: evolve into a player for a different team and how 452 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: has he been able to do? 453 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they love him. I mean at first we didn't 454 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 4: know what, you know, coming off the injury and coming 455 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: in in training camp, we didn't know what if he 456 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: was going to make the roster what that was going 457 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: to look like. But they love his work at work ethic. 458 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: He's one of those people that you know, if you 459 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: see someone injured, sometimes off to the side, they're you know, 460 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 4: taking it easy. He was never that guy. He was 461 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: always running full of the kind of that energy they 462 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: love flying around and I'm sure the Stans will be 463 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: happy to see him with the fans here in Jacksonville 464 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: like him a lot too. 465 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: Last question for you, Kai, and that is something as 466 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: far as looking at what the Cardinals do well offensively 467 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: versus what the Jaguars have done well defensively. Trey Benson 468 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: possibly could be back this week for the Cardinals and 469 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: that run in back room. But we saw last week 470 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett have fifty seven pass attempts. Jaguars good against 471 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: the run, not so good against the past. What are 472 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: the what are the Jaguars defenders talking about with the 473 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals as far as what they might see on Sunday. 474 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the Jaguar secondary has been dealing with a 475 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: ton of injuries. They've got a safety on IR. One 476 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: of their other safeties went on IR before the season started. 477 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: The cornerback round was beat up, So a lot for 478 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: them is just communication and not just putting it on 479 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 4: one guy. Right, That's where they're getting beat a lot. 480 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 4: As I mentioned, I think we talked earlier, they always 481 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 4: kind of get the tight ends, always have a day 482 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 4: against them sometimes, so just you know, whether it's Deven 483 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: Lloyd following a guy, if they have to scheme something 484 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 4: up specifically against players, or just kind of making sure 485 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: that they are not leaving people out to dry for 486 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 4: because the secondary last season they were the worst in 487 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 4: the league giving up explosive plays and there's a lot 488 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: of different player turnover and whatnot. But now with the injuries, 489 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: you're kind of seeing that again. But we did see 490 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 4: them step up last week and I have a little 491 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: bit of hope that we saw great Newsom which is 492 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 4: starting cornerback go out. I think he'll be able to 493 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: go this week join Lewis will be a game time 494 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: decision maybe, so hopefully they'll get some reinforcements there. But 495 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: definitely a point that they could take advantage of the 496 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: Cardinals because it we. 497 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: Can should be a good matchup on Sunday. KI appreciate 498 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: the information and look forward to seeing you and the 499 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars Sunday at State Farm Stadium. 500 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: Thanks guys, we'll see on Sunday. 501 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Really good conversation there with Kai. If you want to 502 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: follow her either ahead of Sunday or during Sunday's games, 503 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: she does a great job. It's Kayanne Stevens that is 504 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: Kai and a n I Stevens on social media. She 505 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: does a good job as far as following the Jaguars. 506 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: And again it's a Jaguars team that is won two 507 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: of three coming out of the by and has looked 508 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: pretty good, especially when you talk about them running the football. 509 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: But we don't quite know who's running the football for 510 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals this week. 511 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: Not really to mention the travest thing. I found it 512 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: very fascinating. I asked Buddha Baker about how different his 513 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: preparation is because you don't really play the Jacksonville Jaguars 514 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: that often. And he said to me that, yes, you 515 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: use every resource out there. And he said, but with 516 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: Traves Ytn, I remember playing with him in the NCAA 517 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: video game and juking around and utilizing him. So these players, 518 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: they when they say that they utilize every resource out there, 519 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: think about how many guys talked about loving to play 520 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: with Kyle Murray because they played with him on Madden 521 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 3: and just being able to run around with him and 522 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: kind of have that video game asque experience on the 523 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: game and then also in person. But the game is 524 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: what matters the most, and the game that the Cardinals 525 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: are going to be shifting their attention towards is the 526 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. When it comes to running the ball. Not 527 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: sure who it's going to be. You know, Bam Knight 528 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: is potentially going to be out there, even though he's 529 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: been a limited participant in practice with an ankle injury. 530 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: Michael Carter will likely be out there. Outside of that, 531 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm not too sure it's Jamar Jefferson that that news is. 532 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: Definitely want to keep an eye on Trey Benson. Yeah, 533 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: just there's a a lot of transactions that are being 534 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: made at the moment. 535 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars very good against the run. In fact, they are 536 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: number two against the run, and they have been very 537 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: good stopping the run, not so good as far as 538 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: stopping the pass. And this little nuggets I heard from 539 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: Paul Calvic earlier in the week when it comes to 540 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: how the Jags handle tight ends. Now this is going 541 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: into last week's game against the Los Angeles Chargers. But 542 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: as as far as the Jaguars struggles with tight ends 543 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: six games going into last week against the Chargers, tight 544 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: ends against the Jaguars defense thirty nine catches, four hundred 545 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: and sixty seven yards and seven touchdowns. So if you're 546 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: looking for where the Cardinals might be able to exploit 547 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense, it is the Cardinals number one playmaker 548 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: that would be Trey McBride. 549 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people in the fantasy football 550 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: circuit that are talking about, you know, a must start 551 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: for this week is Trey McBride, And when you read 552 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: numbers off like that, yeah, it makes sense. And I 553 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: think regardless of who the opponent is, start Trey McBride 554 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: because he is, without a doubt, in my opinion, the 555 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: best tight end currently in the NFL, and he's played 556 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: like it so far this season. He's on pace to 557 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: put up the numbers like he did last year. The 558 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 3: touchdown numbers are through the roof, and all of that 559 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: is with a change that quarterback. So Trey McBride, I 560 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: think it could it could be very poised to have 561 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: a strong game against Jacksonville Jaguars and like we talked 562 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: about with Kay, the injuries in the secondary definitely are 563 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: going to shift a lot of the attention. So whether 564 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: it is Michael Wilson having another career day like he had, 565 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: not necessarily saying fifteen receptions for one hundred and eighty 566 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: five yards, but if he's able to put up and 567 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: stack those performances and Trey McBride's able to get his, 568 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: could be a good one for the Cardinals. 569 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: Liam Comb very complimentary of Trey this week, calling him 570 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: extremely versatile and you got to make sure you got 571 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: eyes on eighty five because he is that tied end 572 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: out that versatility. 573 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can be in. 574 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: A three point stance, he can stay in and block, 575 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: he can stay in shipping then go out or line 576 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: up as a wide receiver, a true wide out, whether 577 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: that's wide left or right or in the slot. That's 578 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: the versatility that Trey McBride brings to the Arizona Cardinals. 579 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: And I made a comment with Danny earlier in the 580 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: week here on Cardinals Cover two because of the Jaguars 581 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: defense against the run and what we saw last week 582 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, how do you get that offense going? 583 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: Do we see Jacoby Brisse said again, thirty five plus 584 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: pass attempts, forty plus pass attempts if the run game 585 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: is not there and you're trying to figure out what 586 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: is the best way for a Cardinals win. At this point, Zach, 587 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's three to nothing or thirty 588 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: three to thirty. Cardinals desperately need a w and whether 589 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: that and we hear it all the time, what does 590 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: it take this particular week, Well, it could take a 591 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: lot of pass attempts from Jacoby. Jacoby said he would 592 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: throw for three yards if that meant to win. And 593 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: that's something you love to hear from your quack, the 594 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: ultimate competitor out there. But however, it gets done. You 595 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: just need one. 596 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: You just need to walk back into that locker room 597 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: with music playing, and the guys are excited because they've 598 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: missed that. The emotions that this team felt after beating 599 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys on Monday Night Football that Tuesday, coming 600 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: back in the building, there was a lot of excitement. 601 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: You know, doing that on a primetime stage was important 602 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: for this team. But it hasn't happened since and the 603 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: Cardinals seven of their last eight have been the same. 604 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: Walk back to the locker room. They need to figure 605 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: out a way to get it done. I'm not sure 606 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 3: if that means Jacoby's going to be dropping back forty 607 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: times and slinging it out there. I think it depends 608 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: on who the running backs are and how early you 609 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: get on the scoreboard, because the Cardinals have not been 610 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: able to get on the scoreboard. They've been trailing in 611 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: a lot of these games early on, especially in the 612 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: last few weeks. You need to drive down the field, 613 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: get the ball, cover the kick, make sure that you're 614 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: securing it, drive down the field and put seven on 615 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: the scoreboard. And then from there you could figure it 616 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: all out. But that script that Drew Petson it's going 617 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: to need to put together, needs to be a strong one. 618 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: And that script for the past two weeks has been 619 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: ripped up because you're trailing by two scores five minutes 620 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: into the game, so you're forced to throw the football 621 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: even though it's early in the game. And that's why 622 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: we've seen these pass attempt numbers and the passing numbers 623 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: from Jacoby. It's not like you go in with that mindset, 624 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: that game plan, but if you're get punched, as we 625 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: keep that fight analogy going here. You get punched initially, 626 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: and you get knocked back or knocked down. Okay, how 627 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: do you overcome that? And for the Cardinals it's been 628 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: throw the football a lot, because one they've had success 629 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: moving the ball up and down the field, and then 630 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: the inability to get this run game going since all 631 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: the way back in Week one against the New Orleans Saints. 632 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: It's not a matter of how hard you get hit. 633 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: It's a matter of how hard you could get hit 634 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: and keep moving forward, because that's how winning is done. 635 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: One of the greatest lines in all of movies out 636 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: there being Rocky Balbollas speaking, Oh, it gives me the chills, 637 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: but it's the truth. Because this team has taken a 638 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: lot of punches so far and they have kept going. 639 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: They haven't mailed it in this season. Let's make sure 640 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: that that is clear. The record is the record, and 641 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: you are what your record says you are. But they 642 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: have not mailed it in the locker room. When you 643 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: walk around there, it doesn't feel like a group of 644 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: guys that are defeated and don't want to be there. 645 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: They're eager to play in this game against the Jacksonville 646 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: Jaguars and a lot of them have talked about in 647 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: my story on Azycardinals dot Com this weekend is about 648 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: how the Cardinals have lost so many captains, but they 649 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: still have so many voices that are speaking up and 650 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: taking on new roles. I asked Buddha Baker, who are 651 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: some of those players, and he said it was Jacoby 652 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: Brissett because you expect that from your quarterback and rookie 653 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: linebacker Cody Simon. I think that's a perfect microcosm for 654 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: exactly what's going on in this building with terms of 655 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: the leadership. Everybody needs to step up and everyone needs 656 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: to speak up. 657 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: When you get that opportunity, no matter how you get it, 658 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: what do you do when you have that opportunity? And 659 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: those two players, Jacobe and Cody certainly have stepped up. 660 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: Cody Simon had a game high twelve tackles last week, 661 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: has played every single snap each of the past two weeks, 662 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: and he's going to be your defensive play caller at least. 663 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: The extension from defensive cordner Nick rallis for the foreseeable 664 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: future until Mac Wilson is able to return from those 665 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: rib injuries. So again, Cardinals need a win on Sunday, 666 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: two oh five is the kickoff nine to thirty. Pre 667 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. It 668 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: is not only a home game, but it is a 669 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: special home game, a special week not only for the 670 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, but around the NFL. My cause my cleats. 671 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: I believe this is what the tenth year thinks. So 672 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: tenth year of the league has done this and there 673 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: will be more almost three hundred Cardinals players, coaches and 674 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: staff who will be wearing either their cleats or their 675 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: kicks on Sunday. And this is something that I know 676 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: you wrote about on Easycardinals dot com because the players 677 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: Zach really take ownership of this. They love to not 678 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: only design the cleats, open them up, see him for 679 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: the first time, put them on, wear them pregames, some 680 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: even wear them during the game. But it is at 681 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: a great event, a great week around the NFL because 682 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 1: it does show a different side for these players. What 683 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: are their causes that they are looking to promote and 684 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: push out there? 685 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: One hundred percent And with this case, it's something that 686 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: begins all the way back in July. I spoke with 687 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: Alex Katz from Stadium Custom Kicks. He's the founder of 688 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: the organization that has been working with fourteen different NFL teams, 689 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 3: and he designed a lot of the He and his 690 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: team designed a lot of the cleats that the Cardinals 691 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: will be wearing on Sunday, and he said, this process 692 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: that starts in July, and the first thing is trying 693 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: to figure out, well, what cause matters most to you. 694 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: Some of these players they have causes that hit very 695 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: close to home with them. Others might be a friend, 696 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: They might just see something out there and be like, 697 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: I want to raise more awareness to this. I spoke 698 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: with a handful of the guys, Jordan Birch and Trede 699 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: McBride specifically, and both of them gave me their own 700 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: unique stories. For Jordan Birch, he grew up in South Carolina. 701 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: His grandfather was a pastor at a church and he 702 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: would always hear stories about how there were so many 703 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: people that would come into the church that didn't have 704 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: a home, didn't have a family, and his grandfather, his 705 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: granddad was the one to open up the doors and 706 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: he would hear those stories. So he thought about it, well, 707 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: the foster care system is one that I want to 708 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: take part in and I want to recognize and because 709 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: he's a rookie, he said it's important for him to 710 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: establish his roots here, so he did it with the 711 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: Arizona Children's Association. Trey McBride, on the other hand, is 712 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: highlighting and basically heart launching his foundation that he has 713 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: McBride's Bridges Foundations, because one side of his cleat is 714 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: going to be in camouflage to honor his military roots 715 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: and military awareness and making sure to raise funds for that. 716 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: The other cleat's going to be very colorful with a 717 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: bunch of what looked like clip Art's question marks and 718 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: brains and stuff, because it's about youth development and about 719 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: the curiosity that the youth are supposed to have since 720 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: they are our future. So in that case, it's something 721 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: that a lot of these players are passionate about and 722 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: you'll be taking part in it as well because the 723 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 3: Cardinals are doing the Cardinals Climb kicks within their foundation. 724 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: It's going to be awesome for the Cardinal's Climb event, 725 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: which will be February twenty first at State Farm Stadium 726 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: benefiting the special needs community. The Cardinals, though, which I 727 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: thought was very neat in the ten years that they've 728 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: done this campaign or however long the NFL has had 729 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: this initiative set NFL record for most participants by a 730 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 3: single organization, So kudos all around to the people around 731 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 3: this building. 732 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty two hundred and seventy excuse me, 733 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: two seventy is the number of players, coaches and staff. 734 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 3: And for more. 735 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: Information on Cardinals Climb, go to Cardinals Climb dot com. 736 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: That is February twenty first at State Farm Stadium. And 737 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: to get a list of the players and their causes, 738 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: my cause my cleats, go to Azycardinals dot com. Zach, 739 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: you've been doing this for a few years now as 740 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: far as getting that organized and then making sure that 741 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: everyone is aware, because I do think it's important that 742 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: not only do you see these different cleats on the field, 743 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: but okay, what are they Why are they wearing those particular. 744 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: Cleats exactly, it's it's passionate. A lot of these guys 745 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: feel very strongly about a lot of their causes. And 746 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: check out our social platforms because from the top down 747 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: being you know, but Paris Johnson Junior and the Pat 748 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 3: Tillman Foundation, both of them working hand in hand together 749 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: all the way to a lot of local causes. It's 750 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: pretty special to see what some of these guys are doing. 751 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals Jaguars is the match up here in week twelve again. 752 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: Pregame coverage begins at nine thirty. Kickoff is at two 753 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: of five. And I know I should have asked you 754 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: this before we hit records act, but pregame you out 755 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: and about again to Lee, I believe, so search out 756 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: young Zach Gershman, say hello and treat him well. 757 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 3: Yes, please if you have a bowl of mac and 758 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: cheese or something thing that don't make me very happy. 759 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Soliciting for food here on cardin that we're not. 760 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: We're not because I don't want to get in trouble. 761 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: I just can't wait to say hello. 762 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: Meets young Zach Gershman out on the Great Lawn and 763 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: uh tailgating out there before the Cardinals again. Do they 764 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: get off the mat here this week? Let's all hope so, 765 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: and we can talk about a win on a victory 766 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: Monday next week. And on that note, we will put 767 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 768 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 769 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim amahudro Our associate 770 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: producer Coddy Fincher for Zach Gershman, I'm Craig real Lou. 771 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.