1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by Draft Kings. The Ravens 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: preseason is starting. We get games now, all right, it's 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: not the real thing games, but the game, yes, all right. Saturday, 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: seven o'clock M and T. Banks Stadium against the Philadelphia Eagles, 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: the Ravens kickoff their preseason slate, one of the first 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: of three games in the preseason. So Garrett and I 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: are here to talk about what we're gonna be watching, 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: for players to watch that sort of thing, preview the game. 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, just a couple of notes right off the top. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: If you're not gonna be there in the stadium, it's 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: gonna be on at seven o'clock. It's on bal WBL 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: locally here in Baltimore. Also, if you are going to 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 3: be there, it's our Kids Night, So everything is kind 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: of focused on kids, Like, this is an awesome game 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: if you have children to bring them to. The first 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: fifteen thousand fans get a bucket hat kids bucket hat 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: for the kids who are sixteen and under, and then 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: we have a whole bunch of fun stuff planned over 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: the course of the game to really highlight this opportunity 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 3: for kids to be there. Want to mention those two 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: things right off the top, So it should be a 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: lot of fun and in terms of you know, from 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: a big picture level, you know you want to start with. 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Well, I just want to mention real quick one other 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: way that people can watch if they're not at the stadium. 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: So if you are in market, you can also watch 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: the stream on our site and app. 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, watch it stream on our side of an 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: app on WBA. Also lots of ways exactly to stay 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: on top of this preis now you have. So I 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: think that when you look at the preseason, we got 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: to start with the wind streak. 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: The streak. 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: Gotta talk about the streak. I mean, it's the streak 35 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: of all streaks. 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: It is twenty three straight games that the Ravens have 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: won in the preseason. 38 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: That's the most ever. 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: That's in fact this September third, twenty fifteen. What were 40 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: you doing September third, twenty fifteen. You were a wee 41 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: little baby. 42 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: I was at the game, but the Ravens won night. 43 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: I was there when they want. I was there back 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: of that day when they won that streak. 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: You were a wee little baby, way back then, Garrett, 46 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: do you remember that game? I'm too old. I don't 47 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: remember anything. 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I think I know the streak 49 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: is something that fans talk about. John Horriblall was asked 50 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: about it this week and the importance of it, And 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: here's what I think of the streak. I think that 52 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: does it matter in terms of predicting the success of 53 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: the team over the course of the year, No, it 54 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Does it matter in terms of the players 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: who are on the result the results of the game, yeah, 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: the winner lost, the result of it doesn't matter in 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: predicting how that season is going to go. 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: And then for the players who are on the field, though, 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: I think they care. There's pride. 60 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: You want to play well, you want to put good 61 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: tape out there to catch on with the Ravens or 62 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: another team. And I think that that is something that 63 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: has been instilled in this team for a long time. 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: And so I think that it matters to those players. 65 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: And then lastly, the reason I think that the Ravens 66 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: have had the streak exists. I think that the maybe 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: the biggest reason is that the Ravens are a team 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: that has historically had great depth. They value their scouting process, 69 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: they do great and mean, we just talked, we just 70 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: did a podcast Yesterda about the Ravens signing projerct Washington 71 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: a contract extension fifth round pick. You know, he's played 72 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: a lot of preseason snaps in those games that the 73 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: Ravens have won. So they have like these late round picks, 74 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: these undrafted guys. They trust their scouting process, so they 75 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: have good depth players. That has been a foundation on 76 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: this team for a long time. They value special teams. 77 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: All that plays into having like players who have are 78 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: provide good depth. Who's playing the most in the preseason, Well, 79 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: it's your back of the roster guys who provide that depth. 80 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: And the Ravens have, I think, really done a good 81 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: job from a roster construction standpoint of having that great depth. 82 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: But I think that's if I were to say, like, 83 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: what's the biggest reason why the Ravens have had this streak, 84 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: that to me is the number one reason. 85 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. It's guys like Anthony Levine popping 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: in my head. You know, didn't you have an interception 87 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: that he ran back for a touchdown late in one game? 88 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't remember if it was like 89 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: the Rams or the Colts and they were marching down 90 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: the field look like they were going to win the game. 91 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: Oh it too conversion and they were going for two 92 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: and Levine picked it off. They were going for two 93 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: to win the game instead of tie it, right, and 94 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Levine picked it off and brought it all the way 95 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: back for two points the other way, and the Ravens 96 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: won the game. Like it's moments like that, Guys like 97 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: that that kind of define what the streak has been, 98 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: you know. And I'll add one more thing to what 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: you were talking about with the importance of the streak, 100 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: and John Harwall references this is I think it does 101 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: matter to guys who have been kind of a part 102 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: of the streak, Like, yeah, doesn't doesn't matter like a 103 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: ton is. Do you are you gonna lose sleep over it? No? 104 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: But like do you want to see it continue? Yeah, 105 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: it's just kind of cool, Like, yeah, we got this 106 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: incredible twenty three game winning streak in the preseason, Like 107 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: I was part of that. It's it's cool. It's cool 108 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the longer it goes, Like I hope we come out 109 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: of this preseason undefeated. It's just kind of fun. And 110 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about this again next year and so and 111 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I think it's just all of these guys, like, you know, 112 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: I want to win at ping pong when I play 113 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: against my seven year old huh right, Like these guys 114 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: are more competitive than I am. They want to win 115 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: everything that they do. And you know when I play 116 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: shoots and ladders, I want to win, yeah, you know, 117 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: And so like they just want to win the game. 118 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: It gets competitive out there, even though it's backups against backups, 119 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Like these are guys that played high level college ball 120 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: going against each other. You know, it's it's competitive yea. 121 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: And especially when you you incorporate these back end of 122 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: the roster guys who are fighting for their livelihood, it matters. 123 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: And so I think all those factors combined make it interesting. 124 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: Well, well, look. 125 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: At some of the guys who have ended up catching 126 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: on here, and if like had some big moments in 127 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: the preseason. 128 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: Michael Pierce had like. 129 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: This the fumble, Yeah, he rocked a dude on the 130 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: goal line, fumbled and he recovered it for a touchdown. 131 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 132 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: So it's like part what made him stick, make make 133 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: the team. 134 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 135 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: So then then he sticks, then he ends up having 136 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: a good career, gets a big contract in minisode, and 137 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: now he's back here it's like, oh, so does it matter? 138 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: Well mattered to Michael Pierce. Yeah, And there's other examples 139 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: like that, Patriccarr to somebody who like had some big 140 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: moments in preseason games, he's playing both sides, played more 141 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: defense at that point. 142 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, seriously. 143 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: But like I just think that there's guys who've had 144 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: some of those moments and it matters. 145 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: So now, with all that said, I don't think the 146 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Ravens are going to play their start as a whole lot. 147 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: Well that's that's the next subject, right still, Like John Harball, Yeah, 148 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: the whole mentality on how much you play the starters 149 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: I think changed with JK. Dobbin's injury before the twenty 150 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: twenty one season, and so they just don't they just 151 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: don't do it well they really. 152 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm like I started here in twenty eleven, and at 153 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: that point, the mentality was kind of like the first 154 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: game they get a series, a second game, the starters 155 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: probably play, you know, a quarter of the third game 156 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: they play a half. You know, Like that's not the 157 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: case anymore, right, And like gradually it had kind of decreased, 158 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: and then like with when that happened, I think it 159 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: basically went almost to nil exactly. 160 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: That was kind of the final straw. Yeah, and so 161 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, John Harball doesn't give us a list of 162 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: who's playing and for how long and who's not playing. 163 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: So but I think that it's obvious that there will 164 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: be a lot of starters, especially frontline starters, that do 165 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: not play. 166 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's honestly the way that the NFL has gone, 167 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, in you know, in a in a big way. 168 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: And this is it's about like the guys who are 169 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: competing for back end jobs and a couple of starting jobs. 170 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: So you want to get into. 171 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: Some of the players who that were looking closely at right. 172 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: So again, we can't say for sure that these guys 173 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 1: are going to be playing or they're not. We're making 174 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: some guesses here. Yeah, the guy who I will I 175 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: think have my eye on most closely is cornerback Jalen 176 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: armor Davis. And so here's a young player that did 177 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: not play a lot as a rookie. He could use 178 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: the game reps, and he's contending for a starting job 179 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: right now. It's really he's a key piece of this 180 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: defense as it stands. Now. You know, he's competing with 181 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: Rocky Scene Brandon Stevens some other guys to be the 182 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: number two, which is obviously a very important role. So 183 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Armor Davis, how he matches up against these Eagles 184 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Again, I don't insicipate that we're probably going 185 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to see much Aj Brown, if at all. DeVonta Smith, 186 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to seeing much of him, 187 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: but whoever he's matched up against, that'll be one to watch. 188 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: Now, I think it's worth mentioning here. 189 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: Jalen Armor Davis did not practice on Thursday, so we 190 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: don't know if that's something that's going to linger or 191 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: prevent him from playing in the game. But he didn't 192 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: practice on Thursday, So all of this is with the 193 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: caveat that we hope that he's able to play in 194 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: the preseason game, but again, didn't practice on Thursday, so 195 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: we'll see if he's available. Like this is a player 196 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: who we hardly saw as a rookie ye gets hurt 197 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: last year, basically doesn't play much at all, and now 198 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: he can end up being a starter going into Week one. Now, 199 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: that's still very much up in the air, and the 200 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: Ravens have said they don't that Rocky Scene's injury is 201 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: not a serious one, and they expect him to be 202 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: back soon. But when is actually that happens, and how 203 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: quickly he can feel like he's fully back up the speed, 204 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to see. But but Mike McDonald's said 205 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: last week like this is a that's a competition there. 206 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: And so how does Jalen Arbor Davis hold up in 207 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: a game atmosphere? And I think that like with with 208 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: Jalen something that you've pointed out and John Harball said 209 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: it too, like he's in position a lot of times. 210 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: See, this is what I keep telling you. Well, I 211 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: know this is what I keep telling you. 212 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: And was it John Harboll who said it? 213 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: I said it before John said it. I'm not saying 214 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: he'd I recognized it before John. No, it wasn't John, 215 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: it was it was uh uh Dennard Wilson. 216 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, Yeah, I know this is said 217 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: a podium. 218 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but he he So I think he. 219 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: I think that his training camp has been up and down. 220 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: He's given up some place yep, but he's also been 221 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: a position on a lot of them. Uh, he's you know, 222 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: he's had some pass deflections as well, So he's had 223 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: up and down moments of training camp. 224 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: This is an opportunity. 225 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: Now you get into a game atmosphere which we again 226 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: we just have not seen him in very much, and 227 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: so he is where my eyes will be in big way. 228 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: I think part of the question also, like with all 229 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: of these guys, like it's interesting with Jalen armor Davis. 230 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: You want to see how he does in a game atmosphere. 231 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: But going back to what we just talked about with 232 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: the starters, like he might be a starter, So like 233 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: the coaches have to kind of determine, like I want 234 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: to see this guy in this environment. 235 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: But also we need to protect him. 236 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: We need to protect him. He could end up being 237 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: a week one starter. So how do you balance those 238 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: snaps in those reps? 239 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Yep, number two person, I'm gonna be watching a lot Salah. 240 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean here's another guy that could be 241 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: a starter, young player. They're gonna want to get him 242 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: some game reps. It's gonna be a big moment for 243 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: him to say, all right, this is not just full 244 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: pads his game. They're going all out on the other side, 245 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: how well do you hold up? You know, he's competing 246 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: with John Simpson right now for that starting left guard job. 247 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: John Simpson, you've got more tape NFL tape. He was 248 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: a full time starter for a whole year. I really 249 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: want to see Salid and how he performs in his 250 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: first NFL game. 251 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: I would think that both those guys end up playing. 252 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: I think John Simpson will also play too, but I'm 253 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: more been watching Solid. 254 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is a guy six round pick, 255 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: and so we've said it a million times, it would 256 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: be a pretty remarkable rise for him if he ends 257 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: up going from a six round pick that ends up 258 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: being your Week one starter or starting at really at 259 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: any point this season, like that is a pretty rapid 260 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: rise for him if he's able to pull that off. 261 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: And if he is able to do that, it's going 262 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: to because he looks really good in the preseason. 263 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: I agree. 264 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: Those are the what looks like we're operating off the 265 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: same play sheet here, because the top two guys on 266 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: my list that leftguard competition like it's still wide open. 267 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: Solid took the reps of the first team during the 268 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: first week. John Simpson's taking the reps of the first 269 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: team during the second week. The reason they're doing that 270 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: is they want to basically just put him put these 271 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: guys with the unit and give them an extended period 272 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: of time, an extended look with that, an entire group. 273 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: And now in the preseason games, it won't be the 274 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: full group, Like I don't think Rynie Stanley's going to 275 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: be out there, so you're not going to get to 276 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: see the full group, but you will get to see 277 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: how Solid and Simpson hold up in a game atmosphere. 278 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: And I'm with you, I think it'll I'll be curious 279 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: to see how the rookie does. 280 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: There's some other young cornerbacks, I mean cornerback. The depth 281 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: really is what is still being kind of is shaking out, 282 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: and so some other young corners. I think Kyu Kelly 283 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: a rookie, rookie draft pick, somebody that I want to watch. 284 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: Corey Mayfield, junior, undrafted rookie. I want to see him play. 285 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: Pepe Williams. You know, here's another second year player, just 286 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: like Jaalen armor Davis who's back on the field. Now. 287 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: You know, how how does he play? You know? Those 288 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: are three other corners. Brandon Stevens to a degree, but 289 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: we've seen Brandon Stevens play in a fair amount of 290 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: NFL games, but he's in that competition for the number 291 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: two spot. 292 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like the preseason. What really intrigues 293 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 3: me is like the unknown, and so that's where a 294 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: solid comes into play. That's Jalen Armor Davis, even Pepe 295 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: to a certain extent. We did see him in the 296 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 3: preseason last year. 297 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: I saw him some Cayu Kyu Kelly. You know, this 298 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: is a really all the rookies. 299 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: Like you start looking at the rookies and like that 300 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: is where your my mind and my attention really goes. 301 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: Tavious Robinson. 302 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: Tavius Robinson's a great one. I mean, here's a guy 303 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: who's been balling out in training camp practices. I've been 304 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: really impressed with what I've seen now first taste of 305 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: game action in the NFL. How does he look? And really, 306 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, part of the preseason games is going to determine, 307 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: all right, how big a slice of the pie does 308 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: this guy get? You know, how many how many defensive 309 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: snaps do we give Tavious? How much can we rely 310 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: on him? Some of these preseason games are going to 311 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: play a factor in that. What he is. 312 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: Your impression of Tavius in terms of what his role 313 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: could be this year? 314 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think he's gonna be kind of 315 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: a rotational piece. The question is at rush linebacker. You 316 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: know when you just look at it on paper and 317 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: you look at the depth chart, the first depth chart 318 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: that the Ravens put out, right, They've got a lot 319 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: of depth at rush linebacker. I mean, you've got Odafe, 320 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: who is going to play a lot of snaps this year. 321 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: David Ajabo right now is listed as the rush linebacker 322 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: behind Oway, but he's acting, you know, he's acting as 323 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: the Sam on the other side right now because tis 324 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: back housers out. They don't really have much at Sam. 325 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: But can he play that? Is he a guy that 326 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: drops in the coverage? That's not what he's known for. 327 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's athletic freak, but like that would be 328 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: that's newer to him and his everything's new to him 329 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: in his football career. He's played sixteen games. And then 330 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Tavius is also listed as a rush linebacker. So it's like, 331 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, can any of which of those guys can 332 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: play Sam on the other side? How do you get 333 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: them all just all one side, three stacked three deep. 334 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a stack formation at wide receiver. 335 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm interested, I'm down. So yeah, I mean it'll be 336 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: interesting to see what kind of situations because he's kind 337 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: of a rugged like physical run defender, is right, and 338 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: you know whereas you look at a JABO and and 339 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: O way as like all right you're pass rushers like that, 340 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: those are the guys I went on there. So I 341 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: don't know. Long answer is, well, yeah, we may have. 342 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: A better sense of it after Saturday night. 343 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: I think also, like this is an opportunity just see 344 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: like how does speaking of like being a ragged run defender. 345 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: How do you set the edge? 346 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: Like that's what the type of thing that like coaches 347 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: look at, Like, okay, you can you can flash at 348 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: times in training camp, you can get into the backfield, 349 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: but how do you set the edge when they're running 350 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: at you and you got tackles coming downhill? 351 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. Moving on to 352 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: another person that I'm interested to see, Ben Mason. How 353 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: about that fullback? And I know that pat Riccard's back 354 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: on the field, so you know, Ben Mason's path to 355 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: the fifty three is a little trick here now as 356 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: we've talked about, you know, pat Riccard's also working on 357 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: O line and is there enough where Ben Mason can 358 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: find his way on this fifty three preseason might play 359 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: a part in that. And how many can he be 360 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: a factor in the passing game? You know, he's been 361 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: pretty good in practice. He's a guy that we haven't 362 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: seen a lot of in games. He's going to get 363 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity like, yeah, here's Ben Mason shot. And to 364 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: the earlier point of if you don't make it here, 365 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: what do you put on tape for other teams? It's 366 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: a big opportunity for him in that way. 367 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: Well, he he experienced that. 368 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: He went to New England. 369 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: He went to New England on their practice squad and 370 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: then ultimately ended up back here. But yeah, they he 371 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: is somebody that will probably get a fair amount of 372 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: work in the preseason and the passing game. Like how 373 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: much is he going to be involved in the passing game? 374 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you got it in Todd Monkins offense, Let's 375 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: just say he's wants to throw to wide receivers. We've 376 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: talked about playmakers in space. I'm not sure that you 377 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: put Ben Mason the playmakers in space category, right, But like, 378 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: he has caught a lot of balls in Todd Munkins 379 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: offense and practice at least, you know, so like as 380 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: an ancillary weapon. You know, he can offer maybe more 381 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: than Pat as a receiver if you're tucking fullback, but 382 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: the fullbacks there to set the physicality. 383 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, just on Pat, we really haven't spent too much 384 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: time talking about him since he came back to practice. 385 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: You know, he was sidelined throughout the entire offseason, had 386 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: hip surgery. You know, it takes a couple of weeks 387 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: in training camp to get back on the field. And 388 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: then he gets back on the field and he's working 389 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: with the line now, also gonna do the full backwork. 390 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: But like, is he a guard? Is he an extra 391 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: offensive lineman? How do the Ravens end up using Pat? 392 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: Assuming he's on this fifty three man roster. 393 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a great on Pat's role is going 394 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: to be fewer snaps. He played a career high. I 395 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: think it was like forty percent of the offensive snaps 396 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: last year. It's gonna be less this year. A way 397 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: that he can make up some of that lost value 398 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: is to do more things. Part of that could be 399 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: being an emergency like a backup, backup guard. Right if 400 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: he can prove that he can be a backup backup 401 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: guard that could allow the Ravens some more roster flexibility, 402 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: including on game days. I expect that much of his role, though, 403 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: is going to be similar to what he's previously done, 404 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: with more emphasis on the inline blocking at the end 405 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: of the line, like what Nick Boyle did, what Josh 406 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Haliver did, and what pat Ricard has done. He's done 407 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: a fair amount of the past couple of years. That 408 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: that will be the majority of what his role is, 409 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: with some of it's still the same traditional fullback stuff 410 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: that he's done previously. It's not like the run game 411 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: is an entirely different run game than what Greg Remer ran. 412 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: There's certainly similar concepts to that, but it'll just be 413 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: less of that. 414 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, is he he's basically a fullback slash 415 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: tight end, slash offensive lineman. 416 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: Project pat Yeah, slash DEFENSI lineman. I don't want to 417 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: leave off defense. 418 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still part of the rotation, 419 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: but emergency, emergency, emergency, emergency, yes, yeah. 420 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: If they need it. 421 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: One last guy that I'll mention on in the trenches 422 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: that I'll be watching before we take a quick break 423 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: is Ben Cleveland. Yep, so former third round pick. You know, 424 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: he has not really factored into the equation at the 425 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: left guard competition here. I think coming into this offseason 426 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: and training camp, it was kind of like, all right, 427 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: Ben Cleveland's gonna have an opportunity here. Then they draft 428 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: sala they got John Simpson at the end of last year. 429 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: They still have McCarey. But like, Ben Cleveland's not really 430 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: been in that mix so far. He can work it. 431 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: And I'll be also interested to see where the Ravens playing. 432 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: They could play him at guard and they could play 433 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: them at tackle. He's on both, So did they play. 434 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: Out guard and tackle? 435 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: The reps he Ben Cleveland might play the majority of 436 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: the game. 437 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he honestly might play the majority of the game. 438 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: He might play something guard. 439 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: He might play half at guard and then kick out 440 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the tackle for half the game. 441 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: And which guard spot does he play? Right guard? Left guard? Both? 442 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: Probably right? 443 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: Probably? 444 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine that Salah and John Simpson will probably 445 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: split much of the game at left. 446 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: That's probably the case. So Ben probably plays it right 447 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: and then probably gets some reps at right tackle. 448 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: So you know, this is a guy he's gonna want 449 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: to get some reps too. 450 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: We should add fall to this. 451 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: It's a good one for the list. And here's the 452 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: developmental offensive lineman. 453 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so with Ben like, he's competing for a spot 454 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: on the team right now. And when Joe d the 455 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: offensive line coach, talked recently, he was asked like, what 456 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: does Cleveland need to do in order to get more 457 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 3: action and basically said, you know, consistency. You know, we're 458 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: looking for more consistency. So this will be a way 459 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: for him to show that. And what does Hee is 460 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: you know he the offense. Well, when you start really 461 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: going through the offensive line and looking at the numbers, 462 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: it gets tight quickly. We haven't done our full fifty 463 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: three man roster prediction. 464 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: You're teeing it up right now. 465 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: We haven't done it yet. We are going to do 466 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 3: the full fifty three. Also, make sure you play our 467 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: you Pick the Team contest. That's always a good time 468 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: to remind fans to play that you pick the Team 469 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: contest because that's a fun way to make your guesses 470 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: as who makes the citty three man roster that's up 471 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: now on our website Baltimore Ravens dot comp slash. 472 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: You pick the team. But Cleveland's right on that bubble. 473 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that his status on this team 474 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: will probably be determined by how he does in the preseason. 475 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: All right, I have a few more names. 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It's not working. 495 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: I don't understand how this. 496 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: How do I get in I want one thousand dollars, 497 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: you know what a thousand dollars, So another player. I 498 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: think that's interesting. You know, the defensive line, like the 499 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Ravens don't have a ton of depth there and somebody's 500 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: got to play. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be 501 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce. I mean, Broderick Washington just signed a three 502 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: year extension. I don't know how much playing time he's 503 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: going to get out there. Justin Mattabeka. I don't think 504 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna be much. So you're you're down on bodies. 505 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: Travis Jones, and here's a guy who, uh third round 506 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: pick from last year who definitely flashed as a rookie, big, 507 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: powerful man. It's going to take a bigger have a 508 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: bigger role this year. I think he could get some 509 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason before the undrafted guys kind of 510 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: come in, and you know, uh, Angela Blackson, a veteran, 511 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: could get some snaps certainly, But I think somebody to 512 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: watch will be Travis. 513 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: Travis is interesting. Hurt in the preseason last year. 514 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly, which is yeah, which. 515 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: Is what you exctly you don't a little bit you 516 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 3: don't want because he actually is going to be a 517 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: pretty important piece of this defensive line this year. I 518 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: mean you need a but you need a healthy rotation there. 519 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 3: Guys get banged up and missed time. I mean we 520 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: saw it last year with Michael Pierce. You know when 521 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 3: kalais is here, he missed games over the course of 522 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: his career. You just got it's a when you're when 523 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 3: you got that position down there, the transit, you got 524 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: guys falling into each other like players missed some games. 525 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 3: So you need a good rotation. So I liked what 526 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: I've seen from Travis Jones. I mean, this is a 527 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: guy who's a big, powerful man and the defensive line, 528 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: and I think he's it's it's interesting you say you 529 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: want to see what he what he does. I think 530 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: it'll be a limited dose. 531 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna play a half yeah, 532 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: or even close to it. 533 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: But but but he I think they need they need, 534 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: you need body. He's somebody that you don't want to 535 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: continue to develop. It's not like he got a ton 536 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: of action last year. 537 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: Relative he's on the border, he's on the brink. How 538 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: much do you play this guy? Do you not play 539 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: this guy? At all, he's he's a debate. 540 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 541 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of debates, let's go to wider set. We haven't 542 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: talked about wide receiver yet. 543 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: This is the longest stretch we've had to open a podcast, 544 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: but without mentioning wide receiver exactly. 545 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, Yeah. 546 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's an interesting one. You know. 547 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: I loved what I've seen from him in training camp 548 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: and going to. 549 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Be a very big part of this offense. 550 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 3: It's going to be a huge piece of this offense 551 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: for Sharp Bateman. Of course, came back to practice this week, 552 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: which is great news. Glad to have him back. But 553 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: I do not think that Zay Flowers is going to 554 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: go out there and play a half. Maybe he gets 555 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 3: a little bit of action. 556 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: If you just want to say, it's very possible that 557 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't play at all. 558 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: It's possible. It's possible. But I think the Ravens may say, 559 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: here's a rookie, let's give him a. 560 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: Little bit of work. Just Markus Brown played as a 561 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: rookie and you might remember he was returning punts and 562 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: he got. 563 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: Destroyed the punt returning that game died real fast. That 564 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: was the end of his punt return career. Yes, but 565 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't know. I could see them giving 566 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 3: him a little bit of action, not a ton, but 567 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: a couple of series just to kind of get used 568 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: to NFL speed and game reps, and selfishly i'd love. 569 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: To see it. Yeah, I also don't want to see 570 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: that guy get hurt at all. 571 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. 572 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: So that that's another when we talk about on the 573 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: on the brink, that's another debate, a tough one. 574 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: I think that, like that's one of the challenging things 575 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: for these coaches to determine, like you want to protect 576 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: these guys, but at the same time, like you want 577 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: to you want player valuation, and you want you want 578 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: to assess all of that, and. 579 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: So you just it's not just beyond that. I mean, 580 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: you don't really need player evaluation for say Flowers, it's 581 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: more getting his feet wet to what it feels like 582 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: to be in an NFL game. Just you just check 583 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: that box of like, all right, I've done that, so 584 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: that you don't go out there Week one against the 585 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: Texans and you're like, oh my, this is totally new. Yeah, 586 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: that's more I think the thought process. 587 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: And what what is the you have that that's what 588 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: they have to determine what is the value, what's the 589 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 3: value exactly, I don't know exactly what that is, and 590 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: what is that versus the risk? 591 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: I think that all that factors are to. 592 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: The wide receiver, though, I mean beyond that, the Ravens 593 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: do have a competition for their sixth wide receiver. As 594 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: it stands right now, when you look at it, we 595 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: all know Odell Bateman, Zay Nelson, Duve. The top five 596 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: I think are pretty pretty easy. Uh but who you 597 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: know do they keep six? And if so, who is 598 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: that sixth? This will be an important game for some 599 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: guys that we've seen play, but they're competing. You know, 600 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: this comes down to that competition that we've talked about before. 601 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: James Fosha, Tylan Wallace, Laqwan Treadwell, some of those guys 602 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: and Bridges Lash Black. 603 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lamar was the one that everyone was talking about 604 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: in the preseason last year. Total big game to open 605 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: the preseason. 606 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: Totally. 607 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: He's gonna have an opportunity again. 608 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even when you're talking about practice squad spots, 609 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: you know, some of these guys you're fighting for a 610 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: spot on the practic squad. You want a fifty three 611 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: man spot. But if you don't get that, you want 612 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: to practice squad because then you're your foots in the 613 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: door in the NFL. And so you know, some of 614 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: those got undrafted rookies, like a Sean Ryan, like a 615 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: you know, Dante Dimas from Maryland. Those guys that's on 616 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: their mind too. You know, if I'm if I'm not 617 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: gonna make the fifty three, I need to make a 618 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: good enough impression maybe to land someone else's fifty three 619 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: or land on the Ravens practice squad or somewhere. 620 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: Well, like look at Shamar Bridges. 621 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 3: So Bridges last year has two touchdowns in the preseason 622 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: game lights, it up ends up not getting hurt and 623 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: it gets released. 624 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: But he ends up back here and it's like on 625 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: the practice squad. 626 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: How much did that preseason game factor into the decision 627 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 3: to bring him back? 628 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: Probably to some degree. I mean they look at him. 629 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: Like guy, big body, guy made plays to the preseason, Like, 630 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: let's bring him back. Had he not made plays in 631 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: the preseason, he might not be here right now. 632 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: I totally agree. So I got two more names, two 633 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: more names? Are you about ready to wrap up? Or no? 634 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: No, no more names? 635 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 3: But I feel like we've we've maybe we've maybe hit 636 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: half the Rostler we have hit as I feel like 637 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: we've maybe overlooked a position battle that could be significant. 638 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Oh oh, to tell well, the competition in the backup 639 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: quarterback spot between Josh Johnson and Tyler Hontley. 640 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. I mean, those are the 641 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: guys we're going to see and so, like I've just 642 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: told you how much how much of Snoop will we'll see? 643 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 644 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: Do you think because I what is your take on 645 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: the role of the preseason and assessing this competition between 646 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: those guys. 647 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: Right now? I think that that was more of a 648 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: competition at the start of training camp than it is 649 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: right now. 650 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: You think Snoop's the guy? 651 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: I think he's separated himself from that competition. Yeah. So yeah, 652 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: that one isn't as alluring to me as it maybe 653 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: used to be. 654 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think that my feeling right now is 655 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: that todder Hounty is going to be the number two 656 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: quarterback on this team. I've really felt that way the 657 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: entire time. I've felt like, this is a guy who's 658 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: played a lot of football, He's played in big moments, 659 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: he's played really well for the most part. Of course, 660 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: had some mishaps, but like, overall, I've been really impressed 661 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: with what he's done when thrust into tough situations after 662 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's been hurt. But you know, Josh Johnson's here, 663 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: and they've said that this is a competition and they're 664 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: you know, the Ravens are looking at both these guys 665 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: and Anthony Brown in that mix as well. I just 666 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 3: the question for me is how much the preseason, how 667 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: much you gleaned from the preseason at the quarterback spot 668 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: versus the practices, which is kind of an interesting thing. 669 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: Like we've just seen a lot of Tyler Huntley in 670 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: game action, like he's played a lot over the course 671 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: of the past two years. What are you learning in 672 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: the preseason that you don't already know? 673 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: I think with. 674 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Josh's chance to operate, he's operating in new offense, so 675 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: he gets. 676 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: So then you get a chance to see how he 677 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: works in Monks system. That's what you get to see. 678 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: Get some game reps system. 679 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: It's a new system, that's the biggest. 680 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: Which like even even just the operation of the system 681 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: is different in the communication and all that stuff. So 682 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: I do think there's some value for that, especially at 683 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. And with Josh Johnsimon, you don't want 684 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: you don't want Snoop having to go into emergency duty 685 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: in the regular season and he's never really operated the 686 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: system in the game. 687 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 688 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: And with Josh Johnson, I mean, this is a guy 689 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: who's been on a bunch of different teams over the 690 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: course of his career, so he can transition from system 691 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: to system pretty well. But I think that with him 692 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: a veteran player, you just want to get a sense 693 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: of the same thing with Snoop. 694 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's more for Anthony Brown. Really. I 695 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: think it's it's the most for him. How many how 696 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: much action he gets, I don't know, but I think 697 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: it's this game is most important for of all the quarterbacks, 698 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: for Anthony. 699 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: Brown because you think this is a way to see 700 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: if he makes it under the practice squad. 701 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, practice squad or some other team or whatever. It's 702 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: important for him to play well. 703 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: So, yeah, when when you're when you're a quarterback and 704 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: you don't get much action at all, and you get 705 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: some preseason snaps like this is your time put yourself 706 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: on display? 707 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Yep. 708 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: So that's that's a take the quarterback. What was the 709 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: other position. You want to look at running backs. We've 710 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: hit every other position. 711 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, running back very quickly. I think that that's an 712 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: important one right now. For Keaton Mitchell, the undrafted rookie, 713 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's we've seen his speed at practice, We've 714 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: seen him get lit up. Uh he got welcome to 715 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. Movement up and Mitchell took the board the 716 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: brunt of Wednesday's practice, got a couple from Roquan and 717 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen planted them. Uh so, welcome to the NFL. 718 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: That's what hitting looks like. And I think he's going 719 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: to get more taste of what that feels like in 720 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: this preseason game. So that'll be somebody I'm watching. 721 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: And then just on that practice, you know, basically it 722 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: was it was the most physical practice of camp. Like 723 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: there were some full live periods that guys would tackle 724 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: to the ground and Patrick Queen and Roquan Smith were 725 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: leading the charger. Those two guys. I mean, those two 726 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: guys are great all summer, but I guess this is 727 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 3: a playoff game here. I mean, this feels like it 728 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: was intense for those two guys. 729 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: One did like the kick like the kick motion after 730 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: at tackle like the get out of here and get 731 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: the hell out of here kind of kick. I was like, 732 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, he thinks he's playing the Bengals right now. 733 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, And I said that it was. 734 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: Week seventy or week seventeen. 735 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: Roque. 736 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I did say to him walk 737 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: off the field. I was like, man, you were killing 738 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: people out there. He's like, I'm just warming up the 739 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: pads a little bit, swarming them up. I can't wait 740 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: to see what they're what they look like when they're 741 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: full go. 742 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, that was that was a site. Those two 743 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: are gonna be so good this year. It's gonna be 744 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: really fun to watch. Uh tight end, Yeah, good, Charlie Cooler. 745 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited about Coler. 746 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean another year or two guy who did 747 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: not get a lot of snaps last year. 748 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: It was a good one. 749 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: It's a big game for him. 750 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 751 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: And I think, of course, the receiving piece. I mean, 752 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: that's just fun to watch. But like I think the coaches, 753 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: you know me. 754 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the tape. I'm looking I'm. 755 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: Looking at the trenches so full of garbage. I'm looking 756 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: at the tape. The guys in the trenches the blocking. 757 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: That's really what Games One lost. The blocking role is 758 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: actually kind of important for Charlie Kuller because that's the 759 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: opportunity's there. We talked about Ricard being that inline blocker 760 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: is a tight end. Josh Oliver did a lot of 761 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: that last year. 762 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: He's not here anymore, and. 763 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: So caller Cohler bulked up a little bit this offseason, 764 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: added weight to try to add that element to his game. 765 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: How does he hold up blocking guys coming off the edge. 766 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: I think that'll be something that the true football people, 767 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: like myself. 768 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: Why you. 769 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: Just want you just want big plays. 770 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: Give me the big point right now, you just want 771 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: big plays down the field. 772 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: I'll be watching the inline tight end blocking. 773 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: You will know. 774 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: That's what I'll be keeping a very close eye on. 775 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: Anyway, that's all you have anybody else, No, that's it, 776 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: but just a reminder. Game seven o'clock MBC BAK Stadium. 777 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: You can watch it on w B A L. Also, 778 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: if you're in market, you can watch it on our 779 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: app and uh and then and then if you're there 780 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 3: kids night, it's gonna be a great time. 781 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: If you're in the house. 782 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: If you have if you haven't done so, just do 783 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: a little more pro If you haven't gone back and 784 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: watched the Wired episode, you need to do that debuted 785 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, eight o'clock on YouTube. Uh. It's it's really good, 786 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: just so unique insider access both off the field and 787 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: on it, and you really get to know the players 788 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: better and the mentality of this year's team as it 789 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: goes in the training camp. I mean, it's pretty everybody 790 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of there's this collective feeling that we have a 791 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: chance this year. We have a chance, a real chance. 792 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: And it was just neat to kind of see the mentality. 793 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: I like the portion where they broke the huddle and 794 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: everybody had to say I love you everybody else? Did 795 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: you see I tweeted it, I said I love you Garrett. 796 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: I actually didn't see that. 797 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: I tweeted you. I said I love you, Garrett. I 798 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: have you even though you still suck at drafts. 799 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: I blocked you. Yeah, I didn't say I love you back. 800 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know that. So you just said 801 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 2: that right now. 802 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Well you better reply all right, I'm waiting. 803 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: I'll think about it as a as a one more 804 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: sign note. I wired someone who really impressed me, Anthony Weaver, 805 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: like he was featured pretty heavily, both on and off 806 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: the field. I mean, that guy has head coach characteristics. 807 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: For sure, he's a great coach here, but I think that, like, 808 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: before long, he's going to be head coach. 809 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: In this league DC already previously with the Texans. 810 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that people watching that episode of Wired, 811 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 3: we'll see like, oh man, this guy has he has 812 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: kind of an IT factor that would be really attractive 813 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 3: as a head coach. It would not surprise me if 814 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: that happens before long. 815 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So go back and watch that and 816 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: hopefully we see you at the Banks seven o'clock against 817 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. I can't wait. Thanks for listening, and 818 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: we'll be back with you to break down the game 819 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: the morning after. You better tune in for that. We'll 820 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: have the full breakdown. Thanks for listening.