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Speaker 1: two safeties. The players are out today, Danny Mccraigberry Church.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's okay. We can ride this thing together.
Speaker 1: It takes two to make the thing go right. It's
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Speaker 1: and they went by, they went by by, They went
Speaker 1: by by. Good sound good Cowboys with a forty nine
Speaker 1: twenty nine and victory over in Chicago Bears at Jerry World.
Speaker 1: I have a concern, but I have a lot of positives. No, No,
Speaker 1: you gotta worry with a big wig. I know it
Speaker 1: has it should it really shouldn't have. Really, honestly, your
Speaker 1: worries shouldn't go away I am. I am on the
Speaker 1: same page. Uh no, I'm a page before your page.
Speaker 1: I'm leading up to it because, like I said the
Speaker 1: last week, man, if you if all I look at
Speaker 1: is the stat sheet and I see that they've rushed
Speaker 1: for two hundred and fifty yards and they ran for
Speaker 1: two forty, Okay, I'm without even seeing what's on our side.
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that we lost that game. We
Speaker 1: didn't one by twenty one by twenty yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So that's great because there's a certain section of fans
Speaker 1: that when you ring up the fact that the Bears
Speaker 1: had rolled off two hundred and forty yards on forty
Speaker 1: three cars, Hey, one by twenty, you shouldn't worried about that. No, no, folks,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm saying to you. This is the Bears
Speaker 1: and you were able to beat them. When you start
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, is that going to be good enough
Speaker 1: to face Minnesota, who is looking like a playoff team
Speaker 1: they only have one loss when they send Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: and Alexander Madison at you, Okay, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: challenge for you. It's gonna be a challenge when you
Speaker 1: start trying to go into the playoffs against good teams,
Speaker 1: They're gonna run the football line. So it's a worry
Speaker 1: for me. Cowboys so many positives. I'll get to all
Speaker 1: the positives, but I just want to say that what
Speaker 1: worried me before the game continues to worry me after
Speaker 1: this game. That's a lot of rushing yards now the
Speaker 1: Bears and Nick Eatman pointed this out, and nickimn Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and say, hey, look that's all they
Speaker 1: want to do. Even they were behind, they were just
Speaker 1: trying to run the ball. That's their thing. So hey,
Speaker 1: go ahead and run the ball. But I keep thinking
Speaker 1: about what I know Cowboy fans care about the most.
Speaker 1: They want to go to the playoffs and go a
Speaker 1: couple rounds. I'm gonna have to figure out how to
Speaker 1: stop this run. And they got a bye week. Hey
Speaker 1: go ahead, jump jump in the lab, Dan Quinn, see
Speaker 1: what you come up with. They get ready to face
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Aaron Jones AJ dialing, you know
Speaker 1: what the plan is going to be? You know what
Speaker 1: the plans go right now? Right now you're facing the
Speaker 1: cowbol blueprint. We were trying to run the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's see how they fix it, you know. And
Speaker 1: I also think that offensively, you found a formula that's
Speaker 1: gonna work for you in playoffs scenarios. Right, And we
Speaker 1: talked all last week about what if, what if? What if?
Speaker 1: What if? And then Sunday morning we get up and
Speaker 1: we know that Zeke isn't going to play, Tony Pollard's
Speaker 1: gonna get the nod to star Malie Davis is going
Speaker 1: to play as well. And what is that aesthetically going
Speaker 1: to be like? And I think Tony Pollard, I don't
Speaker 1: think he quieted anybody. I think what he did was
Speaker 1: he made the It's a little bit louder. As far
Speaker 1: as what people have been saying is his ability as
Speaker 1: a running back, he still didn't catch any balls. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think his greatest asset, as well as his playmaking ability,
Speaker 1: is being able to be a receiver out of the
Speaker 1: backfield and playing in the slot. We didn't see any
Speaker 1: of that yesterday. There were so many wrinkles to Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore's game plan that I thought were wonderful, and I
Speaker 1: think you can see now with Dak being healthy, those
Speaker 1: things that he can unfold as the game plan goes,
Speaker 1: As the game goes along. This is a win. This
Speaker 1: offensive formula can get them through a playoff victory. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all that. Like you said, fans, that's all we
Speaker 1: want is a playoff victory. Go further right. Defensively, though,
Speaker 1: you cannot allow and Chicago, that's all they had, okay,
Speaker 1: was running the ball. That defensive scheme. Let's just say, look,
Speaker 1: Chicago's gonna be a problem for a lot people here
Speaker 1: pretty soon because they got uh ebra Flus has a
Speaker 1: lot of cap space, and he's got a lot of
Speaker 1: contracts that's gonna expire. This is gonna be a really
Speaker 1: good Chicago Bears team while you can all right. Because defensively,
Speaker 1: I mean, look we did some things against him, but offensively,
Speaker 1: that running game and justin fields is he's everything that
Speaker 1: we thought that he would he is. But this guy
Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert as a running back, his ability man just
Speaker 1: in between the tackles is tough running ability, short yardage.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a game breaker. And um, I was
Speaker 1: really impressed with the way that he ran um their
Speaker 1: offer and they stayed committed to it. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: Nia you're sitting there watching them going, man, y'all take
Speaker 1: it away too much time half of the clock just
Speaker 1: to get seven points. And so that's that is the
Speaker 1: thing about running the ball. You sound find yourself down
Speaker 1: by a couple of scores and you're having there, don't
Speaker 1: have any other aspect of your offensive scheme to get
Speaker 1: you back in the game, and you have to run
Speaker 1: the ball for seven eight minutes at a time. I
Speaker 1: think any any team is gonna take that. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: weren't trying to win at that point that because it
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna win. You weren't. You weren't going to go
Speaker 1: on sustained drives running the football there. So I also
Speaker 1: want to make sure I say this when I talk
Speaker 1: about my worry. Every team has warts. Never forget Chuck
Speaker 1: Daily talking about that, every team has Duck Collins. Your
Speaker 1: job is to fix them, cover them up. Rams. Last
Speaker 1: year one Super Bowl when some offensive line play that
Speaker 1: was like okay, it's okay, but it was enough to
Speaker 1: win because guess who who they played in Cincinnati, they
Speaker 1: offensive line play the worse. So so you can have
Speaker 1: some warts and win a championship. You can sit up
Speaker 1: here and have some worries and be able to cover
Speaker 1: them up enough to win. Okay, we've seen teams win
Speaker 1: championships with a couple of years. Maybe not strong here.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be strong everywhere. No one is okay.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna line up twenty two and just say
Speaker 1: we're strong everybody. It's not gonna happen. But how do
Speaker 1: you deal with your words? I said it last night
Speaker 1: on Channel five Wanta say one more time. Give Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy credit for saving this season. When everyone outside of
Speaker 1: you had you stayed on the train. You stayed, you
Speaker 1: kept your seat on Bury Church buckled and ejected. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't see how the thing Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy capital float, Yeah, okay, capital float. Yesterday when I
Speaker 1: saw the inactors, I was like, oh man, this is
Speaker 1: not this is not this isn't good league. Hooker's out,
Speaker 1: Zekiel's out to just look at the inactors or something. Man,
Speaker 1: this I thought it was gonna be a close games. Like, man,
Speaker 1: this sounds like a close gaming because the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: been able to win football games and been fortunate winning
Speaker 1: games with other guys stepping up and playing like they
Speaker 1: keep bringing the next man up. They keep doing it.
Speaker 1: I thought, man, maybe this might this. I thought they
Speaker 1: would win, but I thought it's gonna be a tough
Speaker 1: dog fight to do it. They ended up okay, man
Speaker 1: when when by twenty points. And that's why I went
Speaker 1: back and I said on Channel five last give Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy credit. The same guy who people, Hey, here comes
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Ain't gonna make it this guy that Give
Speaker 1: this man all the credit because I thought it was done.
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought this thing was good luck,
Speaker 1: good One game in you came to course touchdown and
Speaker 1: you don't have dak this. No, they're six and two, yes,
Speaker 1: going into the bye week. Even when I added up
Speaker 1: just what I thought, I didn't have six and two
Speaker 1: before dad got hurt. I don't have six and jew
Speaker 1: when I went through Gett didn't see that at all.
Speaker 1: This is a heck of a coaching job and makes
Speaker 1: you down wonder how did they lose to Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: You look at the Bucks right now, but I mean
Speaker 1: let them let them line up against the Bucks right now.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys would be favorite over the Bucks right now,
Speaker 1: absolutely favored. Just just a tremendous job. You lose your
Speaker 1: left tack, not tack have been going so long you
Speaker 1: don't forgot about him too. We bring him up. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, because Tyler Smith has performed. Well, You're left
Speaker 1: guard went out in game one. You're starting left guard
Speaker 1: went out in game one. It tight end is miss
Speaker 1: games here. Franchise quarterback, running back Ezekiel Elliott, two safeties
Speaker 1: have been out keep rolling. No, it's wonderful. And you
Speaker 1: know what people continue to talk about the culture here
Speaker 1: in Dallas and the way that this team has just
Speaker 1: risen to adversity. The one thing that just really has
Speaker 1: me on all in on this season, it's losing DAK
Speaker 1: and the way that they performed after losing DAK. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the defense carried this offense, you know, and finally, finally, finally, finally,
Speaker 1: the offense has to has to erupt and carry because
Speaker 1: that's what they did. That's what they have to do.
Speaker 1: There were certain points in that and I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: get to the Chauncey ghost and that whole rough in
Speaker 1: the passer, which look, that's that came at a pivotal
Speaker 1: point in the game where obviously it could have changed
Speaker 1: the momentum completely U to the Dallas how Boys. But
Speaker 1: you know, I really just look sit back and look
Speaker 1: at this team and guy's like Israel mu Cuomo in
Speaker 1: his development um as as a safety and as a
Speaker 1: nickel corner. I mean Duran Bland we talked about how
Speaker 1: he was gonna step in and what Duran Bland did.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are and a lot of times, and
Speaker 1: I've said this before that that next man up statement
Speaker 1: is disingenuous sometime as it relates to a guy that's
Speaker 1: a first round guy and you're replaced him with a
Speaker 1: seventh round guy, that's just gonna be a disparity in talent.
Speaker 1: You you would believe, but these guys are just you know, Hey,
Speaker 1: one guy goes down, the next one goes up. Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith is doing a good job when you're not talking
Speaker 1: about him, when you're not when you're not coming in
Speaker 1: here on Monday saying, boy that Tyler Smith man. God like,
Speaker 1: we can't get anything done with that rookie left tackle.
Speaker 1: He think about Draft Day? Okay, there was a lot
Speaker 1: negative about it. Absolutely Who is this guy? Scott was
Speaker 1: in the American This guy led led the nation and
Speaker 1: holding yes, this guy as a project me. There were
Speaker 1: so many people questioning why did they take Tyler Street this?
Speaker 1: I guess you know now it's people forget October Halloween,
Speaker 1: October thirty first, everybody forgets it back in April. This
Speaker 1: was not a pick that people liked. Imagine if you
Speaker 1: pull up the grades, Chris Bean, pull up the grade
Speaker 1: right now, how many people gave them a see at
Speaker 1: best about Tyler Smith? And Tyler Smith is on a
Speaker 1: team right now, that is all it's pointing up. And
Speaker 1: this is one of the top five football teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. And Tyler Smith has had a
Speaker 1: major part in this. Because we're not talking about him. Um,
Speaker 1: I can't say enough for him. I mentioned Joe Philban
Speaker 1: last night is one of the coaches and just you
Speaker 1: know what they have done. I mean, so you lose
Speaker 1: another guard during a game, here come Jason Peters. What
Speaker 1: they have done on the offensive line. There were a
Speaker 1: lot of people who wanted Joe Philman gone last year. Heck, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have done forty nine points. Yeah, forty nine points
Speaker 1: with a backup running back. Yeah, with a backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: Given a backup quarterback Cooper Rushian enough time, he'd go
Speaker 1: out win four games. Yeah. That's why I go back
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy and just for for everything that was
Speaker 1: said about Mike penalties, Sean pay everything, game management, given
Speaker 1: that same given that same energy, right, okay, given that
Speaker 1: same energy. Yeah, because I didn't see this, not only
Speaker 1: just see this, I didn't see this team continuing to roll.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis starting Nickel got out, didn't miss him, did
Speaker 1: not once say during the game, say, didn't not once
Speaker 1: during the game saying, oh man, that's something that Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis would have definitely been an or he would have
Speaker 1: been there for that one. Hey, durn Bland comes in
Speaker 1: and he does a good job. If the I believe
Speaker 1: it's an end or the beginning of the I think
Speaker 1: it's an end. Excuse me. The end of the first half,
Speaker 1: he makes a player in the end zone clutch I
Speaker 1: played or for the rookie, but also I tight ends
Speaker 1: Neuis Fergan shot, Fergan's shot. These two young man, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, they are putting in uh in the interior.
Speaker 1: And you have again that's another credit to Keller Moore
Speaker 1: realizing the talent that he has and saying, look, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put these guys in the situation where they can
Speaker 1: help us. And those two, those two guys man yesterday,
Speaker 1: did they did that thing? I go back to and
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not beating my chest as if
Speaker 1: you were at practice. You could see there there's something.
Speaker 1: You can see there's something. And when Hendershot came back,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I went back. I was in my
Speaker 1: hotel room or getting ready to go out there. I
Speaker 1: was like, look a look at hendershot to numbers. Hendershot's
Speaker 1: numbers matched very well with Jake Ferguson's numbers. That Jake
Speaker 1: was a fourth rounder and Hendershot was was not drafted.
Speaker 1: But you could just see it. And even when you're
Speaker 1: out there, like they're not too far apart um. Obviously
Speaker 1: Ferguson played in an offense that, uh, blocking is his
Speaker 1: stronger suit, but you could just see it. Training can't like, okay,
Speaker 1: this this this one, this young one can play too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that goes back into the coaching and the fact
Speaker 1: that don only do they coach well enough that they
Speaker 1: got in the game, heck, can they know what they
Speaker 1: were doing? You call a lot of games, man. You
Speaker 1: see what happens when the drop off when somebody else
Speaker 1: comes in for the starter may confusion and people what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Literally, I can't say enough good things about
Speaker 1: the coaching staff having you continue to go, who's the
Speaker 1: next man, Who's jay Ron Curse is hurting the game,
Speaker 1: He's dealing with stuff, He's Marquis spell Undraft the fridge.
Speaker 1: I mean, the coaching and what they've done here. I
Speaker 1: don't know if fans can truly appreciate what has happened
Speaker 1: because you go look at other teams and people get
Speaker 1: hurt and they go down, and it's some massive holes
Speaker 1: and you're trying to figure out what in the world
Speaker 1: we do. The Cowboys have not only stayed afloat, they
Speaker 1: have become one of the best teams in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. Look at eight games into this thing, it's
Speaker 1: a good football team. Oh damn good, damn good football team.
Speaker 1: And I think I think a lot of people around
Speaker 1: the league as much as every week they're gonna try
Speaker 1: and take something away from a from a Cowboy victory.
Speaker 1: You know, last week, it was always just Alliance. This week, y'all,
Speaker 1: it's just as you know, and you're gonna hear that
Speaker 1: weekend and weekend and they go into a bye week,
Speaker 1: actually meeting to get a bye because of all of
Speaker 1: those things that you just spoke about. The coaching staff
Speaker 1: is doing a wonderful job, but they're nicked up and
Speaker 1: they have they're nicked up. It's a quality positions and man,
Speaker 1: this Bible we couldn't have come at a better time
Speaker 1: for this team. I hope, I hope a lot of
Speaker 1: guys not only take the time off McCarthy said, anything
Speaker 1: like for them to reconnect with their families or I
Speaker 1: just hope I hope a lot of guys stick around
Speaker 1: for the state point and they don't even go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Just just rest, don't don't get on a plane with it.
Speaker 1: Just get on the right now. You know, they obviously
Speaker 1: fly different than we do. You know some of these
Speaker 1: buried churches. Man, yeah, yeah, I have to go to
Speaker 1: the airport. No we do, but no, but literally to
Speaker 1: be going since August, yeah, the way they have been
Speaker 1: going since August. To have this break here at Halloween week, literally,
Speaker 1: I know some guys may want to get away, but man,
Speaker 1: if you just sat around here just rested, that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a bad thing either. But they've earned the right
Speaker 1: to go places. But you know a lot of guys
Speaker 1: I had to go home to their colleges, but to
Speaker 1: sit around here chilling, Hey, we talked about those draft grades.
Speaker 1: Talk about Tyler Smith. We're going to get to that
Speaker 1: right after the break because I'm very interested to just
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Speaker 1: it's victory Monday, Bye weekday on the bottom Um Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: We were talking about Tyler Smith and how Tyler has
Speaker 1: come in left tackle. Did not spend any time at
Speaker 1: training camp at left tackles at left guard? Okay, he
Speaker 1: was at left guard and the kid has done an
Speaker 1: outstanding job. Tyrann Smith apparently is on his way back,
Speaker 1: according to Stephen Stephen Jones at three or four weeks back,
Speaker 1: and he says to coach Joe Philiber have an interesting
Speaker 1: thing on his hand to figure out, you know, how
Speaker 1: to put the five best out here. Stephen Jones believes
Speaker 1: the tyres it's one of the five best guys. We'll
Speaker 1: get into that later on, but going back to draft day,
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith of Fort Worth drafted out of Tulsa. One
Speaker 1: of the things that I kept hearing is people saying
Speaker 1: that had he not gone to the draft, let's just
Speaker 1: say he transferred somewhere, that that there were schools wanting him,
Speaker 1: you know, in Alabama type school they were the big
Speaker 1: schools wanted. Today they realized that, hey man, this guy
Speaker 1: is better than Tulsa, and so he could have gone
Speaker 1: there like jabro Cox went from not yeah, North Dakota
Speaker 1: State down LSU. Could have been that kind of situation
Speaker 1: because then you know, at that point in time, if
Speaker 1: he's at Alabama first round pick, nobody, he's fine. But
Speaker 1: becoming out of Tulsa people are criticizing. So Crisp, tell
Speaker 1: me those draft grades again on Tyler Smith when he
Speaker 1: came out of Tulsa was the first round picking the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in general draft grades obviously for the whole draft,
Speaker 1: So NFL dot Com gave the Cowboys a one. They
Speaker 1: gave him a C okay overall grade for the draft.
Speaker 1: Um Day one, they gotta C. Day two, they got
Speaker 1: to B plus day three, they gotta be overall average
Speaker 1: was B for them for Day one. That's on NFL
Speaker 1: dot Com. Uh SI Sports Illustrated gave the Cowboys a
Speaker 1: C plus. Interesting enough, their their analysts said that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft was fine, but seemed to do nothing to
Speaker 1: separate them from the NFC East in the field as
Speaker 1: quickly gaining ground. Okay, and then uh we go to
Speaker 1: the Sporting News actually gave the Cowboys an A for
Speaker 1: their draft, so they felt like they filled holes. And
Speaker 1: then PFF gave us a B plus, and then the
Speaker 1: Bleacher Report gave us a B minus. So so overall
Speaker 1: probably like middle B. I would say, Okay, so those
Speaker 1: initial draft grades at that night, NFL dot Com said
Speaker 1: C for Tyler Smith because day one is nothing but
Speaker 1: first round picks. See corect This is where and why
Speaker 1: I trust Will McClay. Clearly, they knew a whole lot
Speaker 1: we did not, because the thing you consistently hear from
Speaker 1: others around Tyler Smith is how dedicated he is, comes
Speaker 1: here to handle his work and he does his business.
Speaker 1: They knew what kind of player they knew wanted. Joe
Speaker 1: philiber knew a kind of guy he needed in his room.
Speaker 1: Who's serious about his business, who wants to be great.
Speaker 1: He knew who Larry Allen was. Heck, you know halftime.
Speaker 1: These guys don't know who people are. I talk to
Speaker 1: Luca Dontage on media Day. He didn't know who Alan
Speaker 1: ivers was, didn't remember Alan Iverson playing against the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yes, yes, he didn't know who A I
Speaker 1: was and not really familiar with his game. Everybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on now, yeah YouTube Luke, Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: he heard that? All right. I mean that's special. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I think a lot of these young guys, again,
Speaker 1: they don't know their history. But that's all right, um.
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith absolutely from Fort Worth. He knows history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he knows. It's kind of hard not to be from
Speaker 1: around the area. If he tells, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who Michael Irvan is, that you might only have to
Speaker 1: get his head checked. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I love I love it. I love his quickness,
Speaker 1: I love his feet. I love his ability to just
Speaker 1: forget about the last play. A lot of guys in
Speaker 1: his situation would give up a bad play in Tank.
Speaker 1: He hadn't done that, and that's what to me makes
Speaker 1: him makes the future so bright for him. Uh, this
Speaker 1: whole Tyrant Smith coming back, I mean, it's that's a
Speaker 1: situation because Tyren Smith is one of the best offensive
Speaker 1: linemens to ever breathe really, I mean, so let's not
Speaker 1: let's not get ahead of ourselves in that argument because
Speaker 1: of how good Tyrn Smith is. But Tyler Smith has
Speaker 1: had a trial by fire, as we we've talked about.
Speaker 1: He's gone through Tampa Bay, Cincinnati, New York, watched the
Speaker 1: Commanders lost the Rams. I mean, he's had a baptism
Speaker 1: and we've seen him have his struggles have been public
Speaker 1: in front of everybody. But he's battled and we've seen him,
Speaker 1: you know, come back, especially last game. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was opening up some holes and he's just a wonderful
Speaker 1: guy that you know. Men the future here at the
Speaker 1: left tackle position, which we've been worried about what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do there. Finally you put that whole discussion to bed.
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's got a hunter sack. Yeah, yeah, okay, he
Speaker 1: the best in the business. Aaron Donald. You know what,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's so good. They already got to bust down
Speaker 1: in his last game. They're just gonna throw the go
Speaker 1: ahead and throw it on him. Huh here it is
Speaker 1: already had it many years ago. So so you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Smith getting getting beat by Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: a couple of times, that Rams game means nothing. Zach
Speaker 1: Martin has been beat by by Aaron Donald. Okay, being
Speaker 1: dunked on by Jordan and Kovid. It's gonna happen. Right,
Speaker 1: played basketball long enough, eight Hutchinson of the lines getting
Speaker 1: to him. He's got Tar Steele to eight Hunchins. Gonna
Speaker 1: be good football player. Absolutely, So I look at some
Speaker 1: of the things that people bring up him, this is
Speaker 1: going to happen. You know, you're gonna you're going to
Speaker 1: give up some sacks in this league as a rookie,
Speaker 1: especially coming from where he came for us are thinking
Speaker 1: to me, which is so impressive. It wasn't in the SEC.
Speaker 1: He wasn't the Big ten. He was playing in the
Speaker 1: American He might have saw a couple of these guys
Speaker 1: at Tulsa a couple of times, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: they're not on your schedule every week. So to me
Speaker 1: for it, Tyler Smith to perform as well as he
Speaker 1: didn't know and he came from far back. That says
Speaker 1: a lot about the young man and in his ability
Speaker 1: to get better into coaching and making that all work.
Speaker 1: So I think he's done a really good job and
Speaker 1: he livingly just right up on Tyler Smith and tell
Speaker 1: me if this sounds like the guy that we see
Speaker 1: out there today. Okay, this is off PFF, which I
Speaker 1: just read it. I'm just like, oh my gosh, they're
Speaker 1: like dead on arguably the most violent offensive liignment at
Speaker 1: the group of five level. He led the nation in
Speaker 1: big time run blocks and a season ago. His grips,
Speaker 1: strength and power are a sight to see. Once his
Speaker 1: hands get locked into the defender's paths, it's game over.
Speaker 1: That was the right up. I mean you see that
Speaker 1: on the field of I mean the Hutchinson play last
Speaker 1: week where he gripped them up and threw them down
Speaker 1: was pretty impressive. They know what they're doing in the
Speaker 1: scouting department here. You know, there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: people can complain about a cowboy FIDS. You cannot complain
Speaker 1: about the job they've done hoping the scouting department in
Speaker 1: terms of developing talent, and when it comes to offensive line,
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we had talked about
Speaker 1: before you would join the players lines. If there's one
Speaker 1: area will give them a benefit of the down in,
Speaker 1: it's the offensive line. Yea. And right now, I think
Speaker 1: the only guy you could sit up here saying, you
Speaker 1: know what, maybe they missed was Connor Williams, who moved
Speaker 1: to center with Miami. Yeah, that's what. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, yeah, I'm sorry, there's too many
Speaker 1: guys who've hit I've hit on too many guys. No,
Speaker 1: no one's perfect. Everybody has rewards. So to that end,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you know what, for Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: I think this is the first time since he's been
Speaker 1: here that he's kind of had had any continuity on
Speaker 1: his offensive line. He's it's from the beginning. It's it's
Speaker 1: been musical chairs from the guys that he's had it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Travis spread Frederick goes out twenty twenty and
Speaker 1: obviously he's probably thinking, man, I'm I can at least
Speaker 1: I know guard, you know, center, guard, guard, tackle. I'm good,
Speaker 1: you know, And then that that whole dynamic changes even
Speaker 1: last year with all the injuries. Day yeah, exactly yesterday still,
Speaker 1: but but there's not what you're talking about is there
Speaker 1: isn't a drop off. And I think going into the
Speaker 1: game yesterday, I think what was so interesting was all
Speaker 1: right Sunday morning, when you knew that Tony Pollard was
Speaker 1: gonna start. How are they gonna use Tony Pollard? You know,
Speaker 1: the carries, the carries were about the same, They didn't
Speaker 1: change from that, but getting him out on those stretch plays,
Speaker 1: they got him in position so he could make those plays,
Speaker 1: and he did deviate. I mean that long run like
Speaker 1: fifty six fifty four yards, I mean that's just that's
Speaker 1: just Tony Pollard doing what he does. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know what, everybody's making a lot about this conversation
Speaker 1: with Zeke ze Paula Zeke Paul, I think they both
Speaker 1: are playmakers. They can coexist together, especially when you have
Speaker 1: an offensive line that's blocking it up like that where
Speaker 1: we've I guess if you had any questions about them,
Speaker 1: it's been in pass pro. Can they protect Dak? Could
Speaker 1: they can they protect Cooper Rush? We saw against one
Speaker 1: of the best pass Russia in Philadelphia. They Hey, that's
Speaker 1: that's a different breed, and I think we want to
Speaker 1: see them get backed against that kind of competition to
Speaker 1: where we say, hey, man, can you protect the quarterback
Speaker 1: the same way Dak had a lot of Dak had
Speaker 1: a lot of time yesterday, especially on the third and
Speaker 1: nine where he got it into Dalton Shoults across the middle.
Speaker 1: I thought that, just to me, showed you the way
Speaker 1: that this offensive line is playing together. All Right, it's
Speaker 1: obviously been the hot topic. I kind of just dipped
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Speaker 1: Nate Newton. I was looking at Jesse Holly, Jesse Nate
Speaker 1: always together. But uh, Danny McCray, Barry Church out the
Speaker 1: Nates right there in the background like that, like an
Speaker 1: ominous blacklow my man, Nate. Tony Poler was sensational yesterday.
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard fourteen carries one hundred and thirty one yards
Speaker 1: averaged nine point four yards of tote, had three touchdowns
Speaker 1: in the game, the long and fifty four yards here.
Speaker 1: So people are are sitting here and they're thinking, and
Speaker 1: they're talking about Tony Poller needs to be the guy
Speaker 1: we don't need. Zeke cut Zeke after season dot dot
Speaker 1: dot here is the whole solution. And I say this
Speaker 1: to you because I had this conversation with Cowboys running
Speaker 1: back coach Skip Pete at breakfast in Denver, Colorado during
Speaker 1: training camp. I go back to Skippy when he was
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, and it was with John Gruten. Later
Speaker 1: on Bill Callahan, He's like, we had Tyrone Wheatley, he
Speaker 1: had Charlie Garner. We had those two guys. We came
Speaker 1: at you. We pounded you with two ways. We hit
Speaker 1: you with the thundering that we hit you with the lightning.
Speaker 1: He believes in it. And you remember when they drafted
Speaker 1: Felix Jones to go with Marian Barber. They believe in it.
Speaker 1: The NFL of Jim Brown and Emmitt Smith. That NFL
Speaker 1: is gone. They're using two running backs. They're coming at
Speaker 1: you different ways. What they have with Tony Pollard, what
Speaker 1: they have with Ezekiel Elliott works. Look at the Shanahans,
Speaker 1: what they've they've been doing through the years. We've been
Speaker 1: Dad and then Kyle. You see McVeigh is taking it.
Speaker 1: They're using multiple running backs here, they're using multiple guys.
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys are doing Folks, just be happy with it.
Speaker 1: That's my thing, Nate Newton and my off base. No
Speaker 1: you're not. I mean it's just great an analogy, man,
Speaker 1: And I mean you guys are great. Man. I just
Speaker 1: want to sit out and enjoy the show. If that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's okay, thank you. What's up, big date? Man?
Speaker 1: I'm good man, you know, I'm good. Everything. I'm good. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what to to what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think that these guys operate well together. You look
Speaker 1: at the pounding that Ezekiel Elliott has taken over the years.
Speaker 1: I just no doubt. Man, he's there's a step, He's
Speaker 1: a step sloord. And we hadn't seen him break off
Speaker 1: those big runs like we saw twenty sixteen Halter top
Speaker 1: Zeke break off. Been a minute since we've seen that.
Speaker 1: But I still think that what he brings to the
Speaker 1: table is important. I think he marinates that defensive line
Speaker 1: guys like you know Danny mccraie always talks about, but
Speaker 1: god stop stop warning that contract that twenty one brings,
Speaker 1: and then twenty brings a whole another facet to his
Speaker 1: game with his breakaway speed. And I look at both
Speaker 1: of these guys to everybody talks about Deebo. Samuel's from
Speaker 1: San Francisco and he is a physical guy. But when
Speaker 1: you look at him, sixty's six foot two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds tony polit six ft two hundred and nine
Speaker 1: pounds us are not that big of a difference, but
Speaker 1: that pounding is completely different. Therefore, Devo isn't as healthy
Speaker 1: year round as Tony Pollitt is going to be with
Speaker 1: the carries that he has. What's up, Nate? I decided
Speaker 1: I need to join this show man. It's so exciting
Speaker 1: and exhilarating. It just touches me to be a part
Speaker 1: of it. I'm gonna tell y'all something I spoke with
Speaker 1: a person doing training camp and they said that they
Speaker 1: will always try to keep Tony touches around twenty or
Speaker 1: less or less much less as long as they guys
Speaker 1: seek because they have done the history on him, and
Speaker 1: they did do these little things where they hook you
Speaker 1: up all this stuff while they had practice the GPS, yes,
Speaker 1: and some kind of way they hooked this into your endurance,
Speaker 1: and they say, Tony at this best between you know, ten,
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen, maybe twenty if it's back to back to back,
Speaker 1: you know. So they remember he was the feature back
Speaker 1: yesterday and still on the touch that fourteen times running
Speaker 1: it and what two or three times would passes. So
Speaker 1: they know how they want to use Tony. They're using
Speaker 1: them better now than that they use them in the past,
Speaker 1: not only on the inside and that was yesterday mainly,
Speaker 1: but on the outside. So you can, as fans, you
Speaker 1: can you can want what you want, but this seems
Speaker 1: successful with two running backs, this one. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can don't let the money blind you. Let the winning
Speaker 1: blind you, not the money. The team you saw yesterday
Speaker 1: that did it still put you and I didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about this. If there's still
Speaker 1: needing to be a move made on behalf of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys before the end of free agency, after after
Speaker 1: the balance that they shown, you know, Zeke will be
Speaker 1: back in what Tony Poller did. Are you still saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to make a move by tomorrow. It just
Speaker 1: depend on what that move is in what position. We
Speaker 1: still have a glaring need on our defense because that
Speaker 1: is the strength of this team of stopping to run
Speaker 1: or do we give this defensive line a chance to
Speaker 1: jail and too you know what I'm saying, to see
Speaker 1: what we all do in coming weeks, But we cannot
Speaker 1: with the likes of Tennessee coming in here New York, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: we still got to deal with them, So we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't in Minnesota. We don't want to figure that
Speaker 1: out in the middle of these games, because now it's
Speaker 1: it's positioning yourself to either have a home game or
Speaker 1: possibly sitting at home one week free what I what
Speaker 1: I would like to do? Uh? And let's be over
Speaker 1: to what tomorrow. Yeah, if you don't get that receiver,
Speaker 1: DA gonna have to work with what he's working with.
Speaker 1: And as long as Killum and him don't have them
Speaker 1: them grand schemes of of going off characters too much
Speaker 1: that they did right before the half, they all right,
Speaker 1: we got three tight ends. This is what I try
Speaker 1: to tell people. How has Tom Brady and he's not
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but how has Tom Brady slashed Belichick in
Speaker 1: his officsive coordinator survived with two slot receivers and a
Speaker 1: two and and and one tight end? They had too
Speaker 1: what her and that is? But God, bless your soul,
Speaker 1: but how did they survive three year end a year
Speaker 1: out with two slot receivers and one great tight end?
Speaker 1: And we can't survive like that? Because Cede Lamb is
Speaker 1: gonna get better. I believe that in my mind, and
Speaker 1: I believe that Gallup is gonna get better. So I
Speaker 1: believe these guys gonna get better. Matter Now, can your
Speaker 1: can your office a coordinator figure out a way to
Speaker 1: have a short to medium game and then hit them
Speaker 1: over the top every nine and then and your gadget plays.
Speaker 1: I'm more apt to go along with your gadget plays
Speaker 1: as long as it's number nine. See when you when
Speaker 1: you go gadget plays, you need lightning, quick athletics, stop
Speaker 1: and start, guys. I saw it all around the league
Speaker 1: where everybody's using their punt returner. Now see yeah, this
Speaker 1: all around the league. So and they did it yesterday,
Speaker 1: though they did it yesterday with Turpin and eleven yard game.
Speaker 1: So what's that you see Andy Reid using that speed
Speaker 1: and what he did with Tyreek Hill and other people
Speaker 1: trying to get that hey something heck and I talked
Speaker 1: about here. I wanted to get your thoughts, um. I
Speaker 1: gave Mike McCarthy a lot of credit for getting the
Speaker 1: six and two with this team and the coaching staff here.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts about where they're at
Speaker 1: as they're going into this by week you're talking about McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I have went up to Will McClay. I have went
Speaker 1: up to coach McCarthy uh and several other people, saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, y'all, y'all got a coach here? Then
Speaker 1: then then then bat that went out he didn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't blink it. He said, this is my guy, Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: and we all I know I was man, but about
Speaker 1: to get somebody. Oh my god, this dude, I don't
Speaker 1: way for while nobody wanted it. Yeah, you cater to
Speaker 1: your defense. Now, maybe you didn't feel that way, and
Speaker 1: you said that you did. Maybe, but maybe you didn't
Speaker 1: feel that way. After after that guy, you went to
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator. You went to your uh starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush, this is how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: You went to Dan Quinn say, baby, I old my
Speaker 1: arms to you. I'm trusting you with my I'm family
Speaker 1: like like like the dude. Then they golf out too.
Speaker 1: I'm trusting you here with my family. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying with my livelihood. And they handled it. Man,
Speaker 1: Coach McCarthy, he has handled his business. He has not changed.
Speaker 1: He's still working on the penalties. He don't forget. I'm
Speaker 1: still working on the penalties. I'm gonna play to the
Speaker 1: strength of my defense and my next best weather. It
Speaker 1: was my offensive line, so I'm gonna let them get
Speaker 1: out the people. This man has not changed. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna change. I'm not he's done a very good job.
Speaker 1: He will not get any Coach of the Year votes
Speaker 1: because I think people are pretty much trying to give
Speaker 1: that to Brian dave Ball what he's done with the Giants.
Speaker 1: But until we wholf them up again to lose as
Speaker 1: many players as they have. You've lost your starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: lost your starting running back, lost your starting tight and
Speaker 1: lost your left tackle, lost two safeties, lost your left guard.
Speaker 1: We're just going down the list of people they have
Speaker 1: lost during this season, and they've kept on going. I
Speaker 1: gotta get this off my chest man. Something really bothered
Speaker 1: me yesterday and it was it was the Chauncey Gholston
Speaker 1: in the rough in the past of penalty yesterday. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what the NFL the point is on
Speaker 1: this penalty. And obviously it's not to take it back
Speaker 1: to the days when you play when guys could just
Speaker 1: tee off on the quarterback. But you are changing the
Speaker 1: trajectory of games. You're changing the integrity of the game
Speaker 1: with that penalty. And you saw what happened that was
Speaker 1: a turnover the interception, and then you give this team
Speaker 1: or not only fresh set of downs, but you move
Speaker 1: them closer to the goal line and then they score. Right,
Speaker 1: if that happens to you in the playoff game, you
Speaker 1: know that these are things that you cannot do, uh
Speaker 1: in the course of a football game. And it needs
Speaker 1: to be reviewable. They need to be able to review this.
Speaker 1: People can change it. He who is that it's only
Speaker 1: two people can change it, refs and within their own
Speaker 1: home and the owners. If the owners don't change it
Speaker 1: or the refs don't change it, they they have got
Speaker 1: a license to dictate games. That's that's that is going
Speaker 1: to that that those kinds of plays that I'm telling
Speaker 1: in a contact in the contact sport, that you're asking
Speaker 1: a guy that in the boxing ring, you gotta knock
Speaker 1: him out a certain way. I mean, Chauncey Ghoston wins
Speaker 1: his matchup, closes in on the on the quarterback and
Speaker 1: he could have demolished him. I mean, he could have
Speaker 1: picked him up talking and really landed on him. That
Speaker 1: wasn't egregious enough to have a fifteen yard athenality called
Speaker 1: like that. Man. That's killing me. Man, I can't take it.
Speaker 1: I can't stand. I'm gonna tell you something. Ten years ago,
Speaker 1: I used to come around these shows and do these shows.
Speaker 1: But were just getting started, and I used to be
Speaker 1: like reff was not allowed to be talked about this
Speaker 1: before the replay. And once they brought replay, that's when
Speaker 1: I got outspoken. Is you in New York see it,
Speaker 1: noy it and can run it back eight hundred times? Yes,
Speaker 1: they banged bang sometime, but you can change if you're
Speaker 1: not gonna change it, because that is my buddy sitting
Speaker 1: in there and made that call embarrassing. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: think a rough if you get to get it right,
Speaker 1: you think a rough gonna be like, man, he made
Speaker 1: me look bad. No, he gonna be like, Okay, we
Speaker 1: got this right. Yeah, but until the refs come with
Speaker 1: a better plan and management. I'm talking my ownership. Ain't
Speaker 1: talking about no counsel that meets every yell we're gonna
Speaker 1: take just before the competition committee. Yeah yeah, man, that's
Speaker 1: just another way getting extra paycheck. May thanks for stopping
Speaker 1: in for a little bit. Came right in, cat right in.
Speaker 1: You know. It made the time fly. We over yea,
Speaker 1: we are over time now. It's okay because my show next.
Speaker 1: So when you were running, y'all can sit right here.
Speaker 1: We'll run keep right running. Run you can't you know
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't take time away from Jesse. Yeah
Speaker 1: you can't. Yeah you got my permission? No, no, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Hack ma man, this is fun. Man, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Heck mahe in here today, Danny Barry. They'll
Speaker 1: be back when they're back. It's the bye week. Cowboys
Speaker 1: are six and two, a lot to feel good about.
Speaker 1: We'll dive more into U. We'll dive in warning into
Speaker 1: the my worry later on this week about stopping the run.
Speaker 1: We'll dive more into that. Hey for Chris Beam, Big
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