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Speaker 1: the English language and I use it. Well. Uh if yeah, dominated, dominated, dominated, dominated,

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Speaker 1: the discussion. That's good, Joyce. Let me get back to

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Speaker 1: my point, jet off to this is my show. But

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Speaker 1: February looking like a lobster over there's like three days later.

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Speaker 1: I can understand why for some people that you know,

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Speaker 1: here until two o'clock talking everything Patriots and NFL and

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you know, Richard Seymour might get into

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And there's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: this week. Man. Joe Judge, Joe Judge, what what about

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Speaker 1: it might be back reports this morning as what offensive assistant? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just can't do it. They just can't do it, those

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Speaker 1: Why why is it okay for everybody else to name

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Speaker 1: you know, because you don't want to lose the guy

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Speaker 1: That doesn't really have anything to do with their mindset. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: never any problems with communication. I would say, do whatever

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Speaker 1: seen that over the last two or three years, with

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Speaker 1: But it certainly seems the players don't know who's in

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Speaker 1: all seriousness, and I know that there's a lot of

426
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Speaker 1: corporate you know, uh, missteps in all walks of life,

427
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: but I can't imagine that an organization that's as successful

428
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Speaker 1: as the NFL that makes consistently more mistakes in the

429
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Speaker 1: pr realm, Like right down to this Brian Flores lawsuit

430
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 1: that within two hours they put out a statement saying

431
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Speaker 1: it's without merit. Right then the next day they admit

432
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Speaker 1: we're gonna look into this throwing of the games. Then

433
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Speaker 1: two days later it's like this grandiose statement from Roger

434
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: Goodell about the hiring practices and we need to look

435
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Speaker 1: into discrimination. I get an idea, hop about instead of

436
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: saying just knee jerk, yeah, it's without merit, maybe do

437
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: a little research and find out. I mean, for you know,

438
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: p salient balls, we're gonna have a wells rapport. This

439
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: has no merit, right holy Cross Grad's head. But now

440
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, you're gonna get I

441
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll divulge all the information. Look what

442
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: happened with Washington, There'll be enough. Haven't let those all

443
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: of that investigation be public. No, nothing will come out

444
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: that will be harmful to any owner. Do you think

445
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: that's a great point and that do you think, like

446
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 1: I everyone always hates Roger Goodell, and I'm like, it

447
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's just the figurehead guy who gets gets

448
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: paid a ton of money to take all the arrows.

449
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna like do that job. You

450
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Speaker 1: think he's doing a great I don't mind that. I

451
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: don't mind that he takes the arrows he's just so

452
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: smug and arrogant while doing it, like you would think

453
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Speaker 1: you would just step back a little bit and say,

454
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Speaker 1: all right, I gotta take I gotta be the public

455
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: face of this, you know, I gotta I gotta eat

456
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Speaker 1: a little humble poss no self awareness ever, not just

457
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: gun right ahead without I mean, how could anyone say

458
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: that two hours later? Right? Right? But then, just like

459
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: the relationship between the owners and the league, and they

460
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Speaker 1: run it, but they the owners are the league, and

461
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: the owners are the league. They are what they want happen.

462
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Speaker 1: It's not Roger. I'm like, let's do it this way.

463
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: They do a lot of things wrong, and yeah, because

464
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: they have right, all right, it's the product on the field.

465
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: People love that game so much because you have the

466
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: last six games that went down to the last player

467
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: of the game, and we're all riveted exactly. Yeah, if

468
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: they didn't have that, then they'd be totally screwed, all right.

469
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: And then of course, you know, I know you guys

470
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: probably talked about it at link with Tom Brady last week,

471
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Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think he didn't mention the page,

472
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: like don't talked about it. Yeah, but you know, since then,

473
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: stuff has come out. He's you know and everything like that.

474
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Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting his comments um just

475
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Speaker 1: the other day about he's never never say never last yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: about playing again. So that's what I said Eric today,

477
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: I look America, I'm like Eric everready in this season.

478
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: So Mac got a bad game last week, maybe they'd

479
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Speaker 1: be the one day not even I don't think he'll

480
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Speaker 1: ever play for the Patriots, But what are the chances

481
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots convinced him Brady to come back and play

482
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season and win It's Super Bowl.

483
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I genally when retire, I'm always

484
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's retired. Like, no, I don't think he's

485
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: playing this year right Based on that comment, he struck

486
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Speaker 1: me as a guy that didn't want to retire, is

487
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: only doing it to a piece his wife. Yeah, and

488
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: maybe four or five months go by and maybe his

489
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Speaker 1: wife says, you know what, he's not that happy or

490
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Speaker 1: I'm not happy with him. I'm not that happy. Why

491
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Speaker 1: don't you play? If you want to play, go play

492
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Speaker 1: your little game. I think he's holding the door open

493
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Speaker 1: for San Francisco. I think he's something. I think so.

494
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Speaker 1: I think because Jimmy's already said I expect to get trade.

495
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna get traded. Yeah, there's gonna be a ton

496
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, so we're gonna have to go through this

497
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: whole time. I think again always, oh, really educated they come,

498
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Speaker 1: you know. I think that's the best way to put it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think anything never. You know, you never

500
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Speaker 1: say never, And you know, at the same time, I

501
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: know that I'm very I feel very good about my decision.

502
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Speaker 1: So I don't know it feels six months from now. Oh,

503
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Speaker 1: how's that out of Yeah, it's I don't think it's

504
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Speaker 1: out of content. I think he's saying what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: I think a guy who just retired and that's never

506
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Speaker 1: say never's overblown. No, no, yeah, I mean I heard it.

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Speaker 1: I disagree with you a little bit, Matt. I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that you got the sound in though, so

509
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Speaker 1: we can hear him play this is kind of what

510
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Speaker 1: I was talking. That was my homework, Thanks mattum action,

511
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Speaker 1: so we can actually hear his context and sort of.

512
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Speaker 1: And like I said, I disagree with Matt a little bit.

513
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Speaker 1: I think it's a very easy answer to someone who

514
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Speaker 1: just retired six days before. Yeah, to say no, I'm retired.

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Speaker 1: I'm retired. My playing days are behind. I think he's

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Speaker 1: telling you, didn't say that. He's telling you, Yeah, I'm

517
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Speaker 1: happy with my decision. But no, I'm never gonna say never. Like,

518
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Speaker 1: what do you have to be the one guy who

519
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Speaker 1: won't be proven a liar by saying that you tired?

520
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: If you decided to change your mind, we'll go ask Gronk. Right,

521
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: we start Gronk through the whole pony show of he's

522
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: a whole I just know Brady is gonna be driving

523
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Speaker 1: everybody not at home, So he's gonna be like challenging

524
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Speaker 1: Vivy to like games a candy lander. No no more, Dad,

525
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: imagine like losing, losing right in her face. Oh no,

526
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Speaker 1: I do I think he's coming back? No, I don't.

527
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: I think he's retired. But I think that answer rightly

528
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Speaker 1: will lead to speculation. And I think if there's a

529
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Speaker 1: situation that comes up, say in July, like I think

530
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Speaker 1: that might be what he's looking for. His superstar team

531
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Speaker 1: loses their quarterback to or can I keep playing but

532
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: not do all that stuff? Yeah? Oh you know, and

533
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Speaker 1: I know that that runs counter to him, but maybe

534
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: he kind of like Carr and OTAs, But that does Like,

535
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Speaker 1: I don't think he would just hop on a team

536
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: who is, you know, in a crisis because their quarterback

537
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: got hurt or whatever and just to get out there.

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00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: I think I think he wants You don't think he

539
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: wants wants to be that that savior. Yeah, but I

540
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: don't I think he I think he would understand that. Yes, yes, yeah,

541
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: I don't think he knows how hard it is. Yeah, Like,

542
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: but I but I could see it. The San Francisco

543
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers said to him, We're gonna throw you

544
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. Come play for a year. This kid

545
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: will watch you. Because he's not ready yet. He might

546
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: do it with Tampa let him go. Well that's the

547
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: other thing, you know, they're in the same conference and yeah, yeah,

548
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: so it's complicated. But I'm with Paul. I think at

549
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we've seen the last of him. Yeah,

550
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: I think he's probably retired. I agree with Matt that.

551
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, he did say, you know, I'm happy with

552
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: my decision, right, you know, I listened to the whole thing.

553
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: But I just don't know why you would need to say,

554
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, the door never say never leaving the door open.

555
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: I didn't even need to hear that just to know

556
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: it'll be eating him up because of how competitive he is.

557
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: And I mean, you don't play this long in this

558
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: league without him be able to just put it down

559
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: and step asidebody days you think he's gonna make waffles.

560
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: So enough, But here's the thing you say that, like,

561
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: he would have no interest in coming back here. I

562
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't put it past Robert Craft to be able to

563
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 1: convince him to do it. He's the ultimate bridge builder,

564
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: and now Bill would probably be helped against. What do

565
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: you do with Mac? Yeah, well Mac Max sits and

566
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: watches for a year and you think that's good. Why

567
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: not then you don't think he's as good as you've

568
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: been telling It's not as good as Tom Brady. The

569
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: only scenario where I could see that Mac, I don't

570
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: think Max good. Once again his position. Let's let's let's

571
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: say that over the next year they start adding pieces

572
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: and for you know, they become a legitimate playoff in

573
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowder again. No, in reality, the season starts, season

574
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: has started, okay, and they're like, let's say they're ten

575
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: and two and all of a sudden, Mac goes down

576
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: and he's lost for the season. Bring him in right,

577
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: and then like maybe maybe Robert picks up the phone

578
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: and says, hey, Tom, we got a chance to do

579
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: something here. And he says, that's different. Now a hero. Yeah,

580
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: I've got ten games or seven games, whatever, All right,

581
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll come back. Sign me, yeah, sign And now we

582
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: have to hope that Mac gets hurt and the Patriots

583
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: are good. See again, I mean I can have that

584
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: clip played back for the again. You do not think

585
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: your quarterback is as good as Tom Brady, No as

586
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: you tell me that you think he is. No, I

587
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: think he's good. I said many men. Why would you

588
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: hope for him to get hurt so you could get

589
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: Brady back? You said, now we have to hope. I

590
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: was joking, Andy Hart. I know you're joking. I understand that.

591
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: What my point is, you shouldn't want Brady back if

592
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: you think Mac is as good as you say that

593
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: you think he is. I don't know. I just because

594
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: right this second he's not as good as is Brady

595
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mean Brady you don't want him to play more

596
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: experienced one more year with Tom. I don't. I don't

597
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: care who my cord we haven't even talked about the

598
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: crap The crap sheet, I guess has a report out

599
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport the Patriots may not hire an offensive coordinator

600
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: this edition gives them added leadership, I guess is something

601
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: that he may have Joe Judge out. Yeah, I don't know.

602
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, and not Judge in particular,

603
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: although I don't like that either, But that's that's beside

604
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: the point. That's just a personal thing for me. I

605
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: don't like the idea of not hiring an offensive coordinator.

606
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I don't either. I I really don't either.

607
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: But the question is, who then is our offensive coordinat

608
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: if and if Joe Judges the facto coordinator, has they

609
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: have a call plays? I don't know. I don't believe so.

610
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't think that because he

611
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: had Jason Garrett as his OC for most of the

612
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: time there right right until they goted it half half

613
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: of the season last year, and he didn't want them.

614
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: And who was the one before that voisted upon him?

615
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: He must have had somebody the year before, but I

616
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: don't recall. No, but whatever, they weren't good at it.

617
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: The Giants offense was not good either way. It's something

618
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: new I just and it just goes back to dividing

619
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: it up. Do you have somebody who can take over?

620
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Can Joe Judge? I got Mac in the offense? You

621
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: guys go worry about the d like it's it's it's

622
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: hard not to see Bill being spread too. That's the

623
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: thing to me. How much does Bill actually have to do? Right?

624
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: That's what worries me now, Like if Joe Judge titled

625
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: or no is is Bill's confident with him taken over

626
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: the offense, great, but he's gotta let him do that right,

627
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: you know. See if I were Bill, well, the way

628
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I look at it. Do you remember back in the

629
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: late eighties early nineties, when Florida State was like perennially,

630
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, in the top five and competing for national championships.

631
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: There was a point there where Bobby Bowden was starting

632
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: to get towards the end there and he barely lifted

633
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: a finger. By all accounts from people who covered the

634
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: seminoles back then, he was the figurehead of the school

635
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: and the and the program, and he let all of

636
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: his assistants do pretty much everything. He would kind of

637
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: have like this perch over. Yeah, the guys like that.

638
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: He would have this kind of perch overlooking the practice

639
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: field and he would sort of watch and if he

640
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: had to chime in on something, he would, but he

641
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: would let his assistance run the show. And you know,

642
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: on game day he'd stand there on the sideline. He'd

643
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: make you know, if he calls in there and do

644
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: some things. But he was at the point in his

645
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: life and in his career where he felt like, I'm

646
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: sort of taking a step back here, and I'm you know,

647
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: easing up on things, and I trust my assistance to

648
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: do the work that's needed. I'm just the figurehead. I

649
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: would have assumed five ten years ago that by this

650
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: point Bill would be in such a position that he'd

651
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: be able to do that, he'd be able to sort

652
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: of step back and say, I have enough confidence in

653
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: my underlinks here that they can do the job. They

654
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: don't need me to be involved in every little bit

655
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: of minutia every day. And it's a little surprising to

656
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: me that at this late stage in Bill's career he

657
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: still having to be involved and do this thing, or

658
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: maybe wants to be involved and do that kind I mean,

659
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: if you're Robert Kraft. Do you pay Bill Belichick to

660
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: step back? You know, you want him involved, But on

661
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the other hand, you don't want him spread too thin,

662
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: you know. So that's the thing, you know, it's it's

663
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: a balance there. You know, you don't pay Bill Belichick

664
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: to just kind of walk no. No. But but my

665
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: point is, like Bobby Bowden could have, like if you

666
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: saw something on defense, he'd go over there. I saw

667
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: something on special teams, he'd go over there. If Bill

668
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: is like in charge of the defense, we saw it

669
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: plenty of times where like the offense is running around

670
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: and and he's on the sideline completely faced the opposite way,

671
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: writing on a grease board, talking to his guys, no idea,

672
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: what's going on over there. He should be able to

673
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: know what's going on at all times with all aspects,

674
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: especially during the game, especially and in practice. Like I

675
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: think Bill has said it, like just a few years ago.

676
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: I love it because I can do whatever I want. Sure,

677
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: he can go like kind of like you know, but

678
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: in a game when it really counts, like he's not

679
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: paying attention to like right half of the game, right,

680
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: And I do you want that if you're paying him

681
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: all that? You know what I mean like he should be.

682
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, and we did see that a lot, and

683
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: so something in Bill told him, I need to go

684
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: over to the defense and make sure they know what

685
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: to do. And you can interpret that. I don't trust

686
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: whoever else to do that, Like I need to go

687
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: over there, you know, because I can't trust that Gerard

688
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: or Steve or saying what I need I think needs

689
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: to be said here, you know. So and I you know,

690
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: I could be you know, speculating and being totally wrong,

691
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: but that's the way it looked. It's like I gotta

692
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: be over there. Yeah, you know, it's urgent. Yeah, right,

693
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: And that to me is a little bit of a

694
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: concern at this point, right, And it's just it's coincided

695
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: with a lot of these coaches departing guys like Dante Scarnekia,

696
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, trusted voices who maybe not aren't running whole units,

697
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: but are certainly capable like he does, yeh, Scar And

698
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: didn't need Bill looking over his shoulder to coaching the

699
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: old line, okay, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

700
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: just I mean, and you know, and I don't know

701
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: how like teams in the NF I'll do it or

702
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: even this team. But I wonder if there's a balance.

703
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: The younger your team, the older your coaches need to be,

704
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if everyone's young, that's

705
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: not good. Yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't know.

706
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean, since he's a young team with a young coach,

707
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: and LA has a young head coach, but that's an

708
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: old team. But it's an older team. Yeah, so there

709
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: you go. I mean, I don't know what their average ages,

710
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: but they have a lot of veterans that they've traded for. Yeah. Yeah,

711
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I just would Stafford Miller, back Backham, Jalen Ramsay, guys

712
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: that were already established in the NFL, and they got

713
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: traded for OBJ, who, by the way, said he was

714
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: very very very very close to being a paid four

715
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: I believe it was four veterans, right, And then for

716
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: me this morning also said that about the Saints. Oh really,

717
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: then it was close. I don't know how many varies.

718
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: I don't know we had four variers though. I did

719
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: read into that though, because he said something something along

720
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: the lines of, yes, if Brady was years ago, if

721
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Brady were here, I'd just signed, right, that's why. And

722
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: then they said, you know, I would have been honored

723
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: to play, you know, for Bill, but it was really

724
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: Brady who was the deciding factory. I'm like, I'm like, ah,

725
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: they reached out to me, but they're not what they

726
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: used to be, right. I went to the team that's

727
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and I know that everyone said, like

728
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: Obj has been great in the LA and I still

729
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: don't trust him. I don't got that one too, Matt.

730
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't very, very, very very I don't trust Ob

731
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: j you know, like things are good right now? Yes,

732
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, and like even after that last game, who

733
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: was I forget the quarterback? He went over to console afterwards,

734
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: he um, after the game, Uh, Jimmy Jimmy. No, No,

735
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: so it was the game before that? Then? No, who's

736
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: ob j oh No, it was the wide receiver. Yeah,

737
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: he comes after having a strong show and makes this

738
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: job teas this big show of consoling Deebo Samuel even

739
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: that I don't trust you'll get there, but I don't

740
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: trust the motivation there. Like, was that for Deebo Samuel?

741
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Was that for me? Well, I think there's a lot.

742
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think there's a lot of

743
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: that in those kinds of things. Yeah, I will say

744
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: in full maya culpa mode. I was wrong about Odell

745
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: Beckham um in someone. You know, we were talking about

746
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: this on Twitter the other day with someone and he

747
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: agreed with me at the time, and we you know,

748
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: we were wrong. He's made an impact, oh yeah, for

749
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: the Rams. I didn't think he would. I thought Bobby Trees.

750
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I mean, it'd be interesting if Bobby

751
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: Trees didn't get hurt what he would be doing, and

752
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: if that lesser role that he would have would have

753
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: caused a problem. But that wasn't an issue here. Yeah,

754
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: because he would have come here and been the he'd

755
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: been the guy. It'd have been the guy. So I

756
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: didn't think he had this kind of production in him

757
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: at this stage. I thought the injuries had taken a toll.

758
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean not saying I thought he was overrated. I

759
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: don't think he was overrated. I think he was a

760
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: great player. I just thought that the injuries had slowed

761
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: him down a little bit. I was wrong, Yeah, I

762
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: mean production was absolutely But I'm just talking about the

763
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: other things, you know, like when things don't go well,

764
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: who is he? I still don't trust that, I you know,

765
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: is he still under contract for another year with the

766
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: Rams orus this it. I thought it was a one

767
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: year Yeah, it was a one year deal. I wouldn't

768
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: take him back. No, especially after you said maybe if

769
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: Brady was there, well he might be shows you with

770
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: his true feelings, you know. Yeah. Well that's why I'm

771
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: like easy on the varries, like were you really considering

772
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: it or did they just reach out very very He's

773
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: like the pen got like an inch to that. No,

774
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm gonna go to the Ram. Yeah,

775
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: he's he's a free agent. And by the way, he

776
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: didn't get anything from the Rams. Now it's like a

777
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: million bucks, so it's not like, you know, the Patriots said, yeah,

778
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: we'll take you for the minimum. He's like, no, no,

779
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: But all things being even if both teams are giving

780
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: me a million bucks, I'll go with the Rams, you know,

781
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: because they're close closer, Right, I'm just saying, it's not

782
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: like the Rams, you know, outbid everybody. Yeah, they didn't

783
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: pay anything for but they're more settled teams. Absolutely, all right,

784
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: all a lot of stuff on the table. Five pats

785
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: five hundred is the ace ticket hut Line web radio

786
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. Um did I miss anything? Well,

787
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: the pro Bowl. We kind of glanced over Mac and

788
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught any of it other

789
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: than the Mac um Yeah, but it was just I

790
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: had to google what gritty. Yeah. I wasn't planning on

791
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: watching it. My dad wanted to see Mac play a

792
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: little bit, so we turned it on at the start

793
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: of the game. And I knew Mac wasn't gonna be

794
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: the starter, but we turned it on and the first

795
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: ten minutes I'm like, this is this is atrocious. Yeah.

796
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: I mean, if I were a paying fan, I would

797
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: have gone to the ticket office immediately and demanded a refund.

798
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a bunch of clown guys

799
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: clowning around like it's less than a walkthrough. I mean,

800
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I've seen more competitive flag football games. Yeah. Everyone, I know,

801
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: it was horrendous. Everyone the same thing. Everyone had the

802
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: same reaction. I was like, my wife was like, why

803
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: are you laughing so hard right now? I'm like, this

804
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: is a joke right now. I don't even know if

805
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: they're playing two hand in touch or like kind of

806
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: wrapp The reps were in on it, because they were

807
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: blowing the whistle immediately. They were I tell you, I mean,

808
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: like on the risk knew what was going on because

809
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: as soon as the guy would make contact, they did,

810
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: they come rushing in to set the ball down, and

811
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: like it's like they knew going in that this was

812
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: gonna be as as you know, I did not watch

813
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: and have not watched UM in fifteen plus years, So

814
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: I do have a quick que I will tell that story. Second,

815
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: I just a quick question to those that that did

816
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: watch and do watch on a semi regular basis to

817
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, like was this a march departure? Like, yeah,

818
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: even wat was it even worse? Because I remember the

819
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: whole You know that the infamous Sean Taylor lighting up

820
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: the poor punter Brian Morman. Yeah, um, when, by the way,

821
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Belichick called a fake punt in the Pro Bowl, got

822
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: a punter absolutely killed. Um hit to the head. That

823
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: would have been a pounter. That hit stood out so

824
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: much because it was in a Pro Bowl, right, because

825
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: you don't hit like that in a Pro Bowl. So

826
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: that had a punter that was a long time ago. Yeah,

827
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if this was just sort of a

828
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: continuation of what's been happening with the Pro Bowl. I

829
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: don't watch, so I don't have anything to compare it

830
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: to but what Deuce is laughing at is Beth. And

831
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: now you're just like watching Succession Sunday night. We're watching

832
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: that instead of the Pro Bowl. And Beth is on

833
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: her phone and just scroll and she's like, oh, Mac

834
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: ran sixty five yards for a touchdown. And I said, no,

835
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: he didn't. I hadn't. I hadn't seen anything. I had

836
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: no idea what was going on. Yeah, And she's like, well,

837
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: what do you mean it's right here? I said, there's

838
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: no way under any kind of live circumstance Mac Jones

839
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: ran sixty five yards for a touchdown. It just it

840
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: can't happen unless everyone fell down last, right, or it

841
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: was like one of those things where you have like

842
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: a young kid and everybody like And then she's like

843
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: talking to me about the Pro Bowl dance and everything.

844
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: I go, that's justin jeffer That that's the gritty. That's

845
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: justin Jeffersons dance. I don't know what it means, but

846
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: that's what they call it, the gritty. And she's just like,

847
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: how do you know, let me see. I go, yeah,

848
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: see right here, the referee running over Like I said,

849
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: that was about a four yard run right, I said

850
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: the rest of it. Everybody stopped. She's like, uh, yeah,

851
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: you're right. I go, yeah, he's not capable of running

852
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: sixty five yards with NFL players chasing him right and

853
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: winning the race. I had to google gritty. I didn't

854
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: know what that. Man. I knew the Justin Jefferson dance

855
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: when my kid was doing, but I'm like, what is

856
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: the gritty Everyone was telling the gritty the Gritty degree.

857
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was the name of the dance. Well,

858
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: that's what they call it on the highlights all the time.

859
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: But I don't, you know, I don't know where. I

860
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: don't know where it came from. I don't know what

861
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: it means. I can't do it. I can't dance. You

862
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: have your own dance, you know. Good for Mac to

863
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: get that experience and get out there. And that was

864
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: a cool away. He won the skill Squad, he won

865
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: the accuracy Um. Yeah, he had an interception when he

866
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: won the thread the Needle he s yeah, the accuracy

867
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson put on a display. Um. But that stuff

868
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: was fun. It was just cool. I like that was

869
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: They were all very cold that and I think it

870
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: was Thursday night. Yeah, yeah, it was very cold. The

871
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: announcers had like the puffy coats on, like it was

872
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: that cold desert cool. Yeah, night, it gets cold to night.

873
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: Back on watching Mac get to just interact with all

874
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: those NFL stars and and just to see him in

875
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: that position, and it's just a nice cap for a season,

876
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: little chill. I enjoyed some of the skill stuff. I

877
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: watched the accuracy, and I watched the thread the needle.

878
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I thought skilled himself. He picked off up and he

879
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: ran into like the corner of the board where the

880
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: targets are. I thought he was dead. I thought for

881
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: sure he heard his shoulder. Yeah, like I thought he

882
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: had done something. He's something because he stopped after that, which,

883
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: by the way, is kind of why Mac won. Right

884
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: the thread the needle, Uh, well, he threw he so

885
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: he threw an interception obviously, the pick six to Digs

886
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: here against the Cowboys. Then he threw the pit. He

887
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: threw an interception to him in that, and then in

888
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl he threw so he's thrown it three

889
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: interceptions to Digs. With with the write and centives. With

890
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: the write and centives, you can make basketball and baseball

891
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: are worthwhile. All Star Game You can't do it with

892
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: hockey and football. You just can't because that's not the

893
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: way the games. Even say hockey a little bit, you

894
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: probably could be football. It's just non it's just hard

895
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: to dictate. It's hard to take the physicality out of

896
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: the games. Yeah, I think what the what the NHL

897
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: is done is as good as you can make it.

898
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: They've set up the divisions and they play three on

899
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: three games and it's kind of like a round robin

900
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: tournament yea, and the winner so it's all skilled and

901
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: you're not I mean, three on three under normal circumstances

902
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: isn't very physical. You can't be right. So I think

903
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: that's a good solution for that. You can't do anything

904
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: with football. The only sport that you can really play

905
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: real is baseball. Yeah, but to your point, you could

906
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: say to basketball players, yeah, extra extra five million per

907
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: per player on the right, and they'll play defense. Yeah,

908
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, and they'll play team absolutely. All right, five

909
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: five passive hundred ticket hut line. Let's go to the

910
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: ah ticket line. Marks and Bolton, what's up? Mark day?

911
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: To give up a legal drug? All right? What's the madam? Mark?

912
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: The offensive coaching situation is as reported, Bill making sure

913
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: there's no long term ascension plan for head coach, and

914
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: that's just how he wants it. I mean, I think

915
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: he's like holding out for the long haul, hope for

916
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: his kids and okay, a Mark, let me, I'm gonna

917
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna wean you off of

918
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: the heroin that you're doing. So we're gonna, I'm gonna

919
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: help you out here for a second. This is something

920
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: that Fred taught me twenty years ago. The next head

921
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: coach of the Patriots will not have anything to do

922
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: with only what Bill Belichick wants. He might have some input,

923
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: it's not but it won't be his decision to make.

924
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: It will be Robert and Jonathan Kraft's decision. Right. So

925
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: the fact that there's if there is, like the fact

926
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels is no longer here, does not do

927
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: anything to that. If Robert wanted Josh McDaniels when he

928
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: was here, then he had a chance to succeed Bill Belichick.

929
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: If he didn't, it wouldn't matter if he was still here.

930
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: And Steve Belichick isn't any closer to being the head

931
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: coach that succeeds his father. Unless Robert and Jonathan Kraft

932
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: want it that way, it's their decision. It will be

933
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: their choice, not Bills, right, and I'm all in on

934
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: that Oka saying there is no ascension plan right now,

935
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: But you don't need an ascension plan. You need to

936
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: know who Robert and Jonathan want to be the next

937
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: co I mean, really, look at every team in the league.

938
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: There's very few teams that have their head coach on

939
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: their staff. The next head coach they just had never

940
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: just had nine openings, one of them went to a

941
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: guy on staff. If I'm not two and Dennis Allen right,

942
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: two out of the nine went to guys that were

943
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: on the staff, and you could question why that happened. Well,

944
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: my further point is that in Bill avoiding the two

945
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: outside minority oct candidates by avoiding the Rooney rule, I

946
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: really think Bob and Jonathan are going to step in

947
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: and they're gonna make their own organizational statement right here,

948
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: and that's going to appoint Gerard Mayo as the assistant

949
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: head coach. And reason being that all needs. I think

950
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: the organizational coaching experience and the paths need him. I

951
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: think the players want him, and it will separate Mayo

952
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: from you know, from the kids, and it also, you know,

953
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: does set up a situation where maybe it also enhances

954
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: Mayo's ability to leave here. But either way, something's got

955
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: to change organizationally, and I think that Bob and Jonathan

956
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: aren't just going to let this mishmash go on what

957
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: we got right now. Yeah, the last thing I'd want

958
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: is the Crafts, Robert or Jonathan to start you know,

959
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: you call it meddling, but getting more involved than they

960
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: have been. Now this is not Listen, if the team

961
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: stinks for the next couple of years, Bill is going

962
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: to be gone, you know, So the Crafts aren't going

963
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: to get involved in that. And like, I don't know,

964
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if Gerard Mayo's anybody than Steve Belichick,

965
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that, you know, So, like why would

966
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: they do that? I know, I listen, We'll see what happens.

967
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: If anything that or the outward look at the organization. No, no,

968
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: they're doing right now it looks like no, it's it's

969
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: about winning football games. Right, that's gonna that's gonna cause

970
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: all kinds of problems if you did that, even if

971
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: you thought it was the right thing to do you know,

972
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they would do that. Yeah. I don't

973
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: think you need to worry about that as much as

974
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: you think, Mark. Yeah, I think it'll be up to

975
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: the crafts. Yeah yeah, well yeah, and I think they're

976
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: going to do something about it, all right, But anyway,

977
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Mark. I don't think something needs to

978
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: be not about not right now. Yeah, No, you know,

979
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: I think, Mark, you know, I think I don't think

980
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: you should get back on I just don't think that

981
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: you need to spend time worrying about is there a

982
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: guy on the staff that's in line to replace the

983
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: head coach. I don't think any other team thinks of

984
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: it that one. No, I don't know why it would

985
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: have to be that way. For all I know, there's

986
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: a guy that that Robert Kraft has targeted for the

987
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: replacement for Bill Belichick for years and we just don't

988
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: know who it is. I mean, think about it. There's

989
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: two reason. Yeah, there's two reasons why you lose your coach.

990
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: He retires or things are bad, right, you know, And

991
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: usually it's when things are bad, you know, and now

992
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: with Bill it could be you know, it's rare that

993
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: you have a guy that stays that long. But when

994
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: things go bad and you bring in a new head coach,

995
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring all his people with him, right if, if,

996
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: and if things go bad, and you know, you probably

997
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: want him to do a full makeover. You know, if

998
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: things are bad, you don't want necessarily elevate someone who's

999
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: already here, you know, because that person could have been

1000
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: part of the problem for all, you know. You know,

1001
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: so it's just rare that you have that type of

1002
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: thing happen, you know. Yeah, it just makes me think

1003
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: of how Fears and Scarnekia kind of stuck through some

1004
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: of those scenarios and we're able to stay stick around,

1005
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: and that kind of that doesn't really happen as much.

1006
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he can watch what goes down

1007
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: in Miami and other places with the new coaches, but

1008
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, those old school coaches who kind of come

1009
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: with the organization, it feels like fewer and few of

1010
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: the girard how long has he been on the staff,

1011
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Like four years? Yes, maybe he was the Minority Coaching Fellowship.

1012
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: I believe like this was his third Okay season, So

1013
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: we don't even know if he if he was given

1014
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: a coordinator, we don't even know if he could be

1015
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: a good coordinator yet on his own, and we're gonna

1016
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: like room him to be the head coach. Like I

1017
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: just like I'm not telling you yay or nay on

1018
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: Gerard Mayo as a head coach. I'm just telling you

1019
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: do you know, But it's not important whether the next

1020
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: head coach is currently on the Patriots staff, right, Like

1021
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: I just that doesn't matter. I want to know who

1022
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: Robert and Jonathan have in mind for the next head coach.

1023
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Obviously they're not going to tell us publicly, but it

1024
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a guy on the staff if

1025
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: it is, great, but it doesn't need to be that. Yeah,

1026
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: look at how they got Bill, right, I mean that

1027
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: was they got introduced to him and then he was

1028
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: with the Jets, and I mean that was something that

1029
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: was kind of simmering behind the scenes. So maybe something

1030
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, getting a new head coach is a big

1031
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: deal in NFL. It's it's a big big change. You know,

1032
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: the guy, if he's and if he's genuine, he's going

1033
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: to be totally different than the guy you just replaced,

1034
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: and you gotta let him come in and build his

1035
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: staff the way he wants it, and especially when things

1036
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: went bad, and that's why you're changing coaches, you know.

1037
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: So I like that Sean Payton though, no, I mean

1038
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: I like that Sean Payton is a guy who was

1039
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: going to get bad. I mean he said it flat out.

1040
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: He's taking a year off. He's not retiring, right, So

1041
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe he's a guy that down the road you you

1042
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: would drive, there could be guys like that. There might

1043
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: be some guy that that you know, like Robert met

1044
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Bill in ninety six and got a really good vibe

1045
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: from there might be a guy right that he got

1046
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: a really good vibe from five years ago who was

1047
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: sort of working his way up the ranks, and maybe

1048
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: he has him in mind. I always liked that guy,

1049
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: right whatever. I can tell you this, though, Patriots fans,

1050
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: you can be you can sleep well at night knowing

1051
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Robert Craft are thinking about this, what's next

1052
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: after Billy. They have been researching people, and they keep

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Speaker 1: their douce, you know, you know, and whether it's a

1054
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Speaker 1: whole team of people doing that for them, they are

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Speaker 1: thinking steps ahead. I can guarantee you get your hand

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Speaker 1: movements in check, and maybe you can be a camera

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I'll work on it. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: the criticism. Were rhythmic, Um, I can't I can't walk

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Speaker 1: with a pep. That wasn't a peper. That I wasn't

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Speaker 1: a pep, my friend, that was completely without, that was

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Speaker 1: pepless without. The people need cameras this time, I dance

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Speaker 1: on the way to the bad actually on your way

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Speaker 1: back from it. I don't know. I could see you

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Speaker 1: going to the bathroom. But web radio camera guy on

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Speaker 1: salt Pot, that's right. Web radio at Patriots dot com

1066
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Speaker 1: is the email address. Jeff from Natick says Fred wanted

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. Thank you. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: anyone has ever asked, but are you behind the Giants

1069
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Speaker 1: and Jets lawsuit claiming they are from New York when

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Speaker 1: we all know they are from New Jersey. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know there was a lawsuit. We sign on to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my money and I wanted now, if anything, i'd be

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Speaker 1: named in the suit for defamation because I'm the one

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Speaker 1: that says they're from New Jersey. Well, they are from

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. I know they don't think so, though. UM

1076
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Speaker 1: let's see Bill and Vista, California says Hey, guys, stop

1077
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Speaker 1: giving Fred so much crap. We know the real reason

1078
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Speaker 1: why he would choose to replace Mack. He saw Mac

1079
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Speaker 1: having fun celebrating his TV in the Pro Bowl. Enough,

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Speaker 1: all jokes aside. How would you guys grade his performance

1081
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Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl? Um, it's like see, I mean

1082
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Speaker 1: you have to grade the Pro Bowl first? Yeah? Well, first,

1083
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Speaker 1: it was completely ridiculous. I thought them the touchdown throw

1084
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Speaker 1: he had, um was nice. That was a nice throat.

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Speaker 1: Was a good throat? Get a good throat? I heard

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Speaker 1: it was a good Well. I saw the clip and

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Speaker 1: it looked like a good rolled out Yeah, yeah, it

1088
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Speaker 1: was moving rolled out with Patrick, nobody covering and out there.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, I don't know like what

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Speaker 1: the uniform. He looked pretty cut. Yeah, he looked. He

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Speaker 1: looked very good in the uniform, although he did reveal

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Speaker 1: he's got to get rid of the ice cream. Are

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Speaker 1: you thanking too much? Oh? You think I concur Mac

1095
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Speaker 1: on that one? Uh, But I just thought the nice

1096
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Speaker 1: thing from it was just seeing him get to interact,

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Speaker 1: getting to show some personality. Some of these other stars

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Speaker 1: And who knows down the line, one of these guys

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Speaker 1: what I say? I know you did. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: go with it from now on. Can you guys just

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1106
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Speaker 1: I think that was what I enjoyed, just seeing him

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break when we come back. Tons

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Speaker 1: moments in Eric read an email that came in from

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Speaker 1: Brazil last Thursday, and he refers to Brazil as overseas.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I

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Speaker 1: don't consider South America to be overseas. Seems like overseas

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Speaker 1: general refers to Europe or Asia. You'd be correct emailing Yeah, right, No,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you said it at the top of the emails.

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Speaker 1: And then why why is that not considered overseas? South America? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the same hemisphere. Could you get there without going

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Speaker 1: over a sea? Yeah? I guess you could. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I suppose you could get there without going over the sea. Right,

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Speaker 1: Usually if you cross an ocean or a sea, it's oversea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I would typically anything international if I know you're trying.

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Speaker 1: I know you're trying. I like your explanation, but I

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Speaker 1: would agree with you. I wouldn't consider South America over Yes,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a it's a synonym for international

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Speaker 1: oversea people say internationally. They use it interchangeably international and

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Speaker 1: over Canada over He brought that home. No, okay, he

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Speaker 1: brought that's that's neighbor. It's international, not all international. He

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Speaker 1: brought that home. Though. I liked what he just did there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's synonymous with international, but it's not right right

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Speaker 1: right with the ready is Canada, Mexico. That's another great

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Speaker 1: moment from all right back here. Patriots unfilter fives, web radio,

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Speaker 1: Patriots dot Com, the email address, many emails. Oh we

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Speaker 1: got a lot. Yeah. Bill says, uh, what do you

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Speaker 1: make of Odell Beckham saying he was interested in the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that. Um, yeah, yeah a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: Since he's uh free agent next year, do you see

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Speaker 1: Bill making a play for him. No, because they don't

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Speaker 1: have Tom Brady. No, And he said that's why he

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Speaker 1: would have played here. I know, I'm having a real

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Speaker 1: hard time getting amped up about free agency. Of potential

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Speaker 1: moves comes first for the draft. It's just hard to

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Speaker 1: know how they're gonna how they're gonna take care of

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Speaker 1: their own house, and then what are they gonna have

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Speaker 1: money to go spend on make a splash guy or two.

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Speaker 1: I've been, yeah, I've been. I've been thinking of this too,

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Speaker 1: because we're starting to do our um, you know, get

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Speaker 1: our snapshots ready for for free agency, and they might

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Speaker 1: have to, you know, bite the bullet here and go

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Speaker 1: do what we kind of were asking for and play

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Speaker 1: a lot of these younger players because I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna be able to sign, not gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to draft a lot of players because they don't

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Speaker 1: have the draft capital. They have like six picks right now,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know, unless they make a

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Speaker 1: bunch of trades to acquire picks, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: have that many. They might have to, you know, go

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Speaker 1: with what they've got for this coming season for the

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Speaker 1: most part. I mean they're gonna obviously make a few additions,

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Speaker 1: but could be like last year, we call him the

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Speaker 1: Deadwood linebackers. I mean that whole second level of guys

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Speaker 1: and you know, throw in Harvey Longy and Terres Hall,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Jennings, he still exists. I guess I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out he didn't play it all this year, so

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Speaker 1: I guess his contract would toll Is that correct or

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Speaker 1: how does it It doesn't toll, No, so it just

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Speaker 1: rolls over to this year. I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it tolls them was a pup. I think he

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Speaker 1: ended up on that cons as a year. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's get back to that coordinator talk on defense.

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Speaker 1: If it is going to be a young defense, that's

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Speaker 1: more reason to have Bill looking after it. Right. It's

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Speaker 1: an experience that I just I'll never forget. And I've

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Speaker 1: said it before Iver, I'll never forget ninety six lawyer

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Speaker 1: Malloy when Bill had just gotten here and it was

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Speaker 1: at Bryant College at training camp, and Malloy gets in

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Speaker 1: front of the media at access and says, this guy's

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Speaker 1: a genius. He makes it seem so simple, like you

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Speaker 1: can really understand what he's saying, you know, And I

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Speaker 1: think that's been part of Bill's you know, superpower is

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Speaker 1: being able to make the players understand what their job is.

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Speaker 1: This is what you're supposed to do, and that's who

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Speaker 1: you want talking to young kids, right. Sure, any coach

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Speaker 1: that can make it simple look an break that because

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Speaker 1: we always hear about how complex their playbook is and

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Speaker 1: their system. And if you can do that and get

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Speaker 1: somebody up to speed very quickly. Great, it just doesn't

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Speaker 1: always work. But if you're doing that and now you're

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Speaker 1: spending more time on offense, because I that's what I

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Speaker 1: worry about. So it's like, we got to define these roles.

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Speaker 1: The players need to know who to listen to at

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Speaker 1: all times. Yeah. So, but you know, we could be

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Speaker 1: way off. Maybe that is just the case, and these

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Speaker 1: defensive players that we were hearing from are just making

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Speaker 1: excuses because they're embarrassed. You know. Oh that could be too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't dismiss that, you know. So I was just

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Speaker 1: looking up Paul, you always put my rider up to

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Speaker 1: these things with Mike Reece, and he mentioned the Patriots

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Speaker 1: strong draft class in a tweet. I'm trying to find

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Speaker 1: it right now, but I just found it interesting that

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Speaker 1: he also mentioned Ronnie Perkins in that tweet as a

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Speaker 1: you know, just he highlighted him as somebody and you know,

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Speaker 1: he's just a guy that I feel like came out

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Speaker 1: of last year and not really know him much about

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Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I'd love to feel some kind

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Speaker 1: of positive hope for him. I just thought it was

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Speaker 1: interesting that that Reese kind of highlighted him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they've got some hope for him. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear that they had some kind of hope for some

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Speaker 1: of those guys to maybe emerge into some kind of

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Speaker 1: significant role next year, because right now I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen if High Tower hangs

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Speaker 1: him up and they don't retain Bentley or I think

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Speaker 1: Vanoy come very young squad, could you see them? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that they need the depth with somebody like

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Speaker 1: van Noy right now. But could you also make a

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Speaker 1: case that let's turn it over and let's go, you know,

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Speaker 1: fully youth movement with it with the second level. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's too much, um, but I'm curious if High Tower

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Speaker 1: wants to keep playing that. That's a that's a big

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Speaker 1: first piece of it. I think, uh spi and Fresno

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Speaker 1: writes and Bill is the greatest coach ever and therefore

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Speaker 1: a great leader, But that doesn't mean he perfectly embodies

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Speaker 1: all desirable leadership traits. Specifically, I wonder if he's subpart

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Speaker 1: at delegating. I've struggled with that in leadership positions, always

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Speaker 1: thinking I'll just do it myself and paying the price

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Speaker 1: for taking on too much work, the strategically assistance. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just something Bill isn't particularly good at thoughts, reasonable

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Speaker 1: thoughts and all seriousness. Sure, he's got a lot, a

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Speaker 1: lot to manage. I mean it's it's a whole whole

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Speaker 1: army of people that do a number of different things.

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Speaker 1: Hard hard to know without being behind the scenes exactly

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Speaker 1: who's doing what. But I mean it just gets harder

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Speaker 1: is he gets older and he loses you know, trusted.

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Speaker 1: And I'll go back to the nine. We got more

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Speaker 1: traction out of that, oh nine football life, m for

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Speaker 1: the for the Patriots. You know, I just can't get

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Speaker 1: these guys to play the way. That's the money line

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Speaker 1: from that. There was also a scene, Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: have any idea what part of the season it was in,

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Speaker 1: but Bill is sitting down watching film with Tom Yep

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Speaker 1: and they're going over the offense and the game plan

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Speaker 1: and X Y would do this, would do that that,

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Speaker 1: And Tom gets up and he says, Okay, I'll go

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Speaker 1: tell BILLYO. And my immediate reaction was, that's how the

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Speaker 1: game plan gets formulated Bill and Tom and then they

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Speaker 1: disseminate that information through the coordinators, who then install it

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Speaker 1: during the week. It's not like the mad professor offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator saying, oh, we'll do this this. I think Bill

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Speaker 1: has always done everything, yeah, and I think at this

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Speaker 1: at this stage of his career, maybe he's not quite

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Speaker 1: able slash willing to do everything as well as he

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Speaker 1: once did. Yeah. Yeah. Just to corroborate that a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I posted. I wrote a long thing this week or

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Speaker 1: today about quarterbacks second year development will kind of you know, improvement,

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Speaker 1: and found a few different sources about you know, quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: who play right away, guys who get east into it,

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I talked to J. T. O'Sullivan,

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Speaker 1: who did a lot of great videos last year, and

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Speaker 1: one little bit of insight that he provided was he

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Speaker 1: was only here briefly, I think in six as part

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Speaker 1: of the practice squad, but said it was one of

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Speaker 1: the only places where the quarterback and the head coach

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Speaker 1: had so much direct contact together and he wasn't you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously he's out on the outside now. Unsure if that

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Speaker 1: continues with Mac, but I think it kind of backs

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Speaker 1: up that that, you know, Bill's connection to at least

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Speaker 1: Tom and most likely Mac, now that there's something that

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Speaker 1: doesn't and exist around the league, and he'd been third

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Speaker 1: of the league, he said he played and if this

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Speaker 1: was the only place where he saw that much of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the head coach direct interactions, to me,

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Speaker 1: that's weird. Like I would think that on all teams

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Speaker 1: the head coach and the most important position player has

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Speaker 1: a lot of direct contact. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they like to keep the distance in case, you know,

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Speaker 1: let the coordinator be that person and so I could

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Speaker 1: be the bad guy. And you wonder it now with

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Speaker 1: all like and we talked about last week with the

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay line, I guess, which is kind of the

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Speaker 1: Shanahan line, but just all those coordinating. Now you've got

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Speaker 1: Mike Mike McDaniel going to Miami. Maybe it's different for

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Speaker 1: that group because they seem so tightly connected to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything was Stafford and that decision that went

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Speaker 1: in to move on from Golf and Vic they I

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Speaker 1: wonder if guys like Shanahan, McVey, you know, the guy

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Speaker 1: in sinc, etc. Those guys maybe they have Maybe they

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Speaker 1: do have more since they seem so offensively geared towards this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: chat and Atlanta writes in I emailed in months ago

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Speaker 1: about how it was impressed with how the team was

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Speaker 1: performing and that really anything more than what they have

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Speaker 1: been accomplishing would be gravy. Fred Peggett right at the time,

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Speaker 1: while Paul kind of missed the point. They made it

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Speaker 1: to the freaking playoffs. My record prediction was almost the

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Speaker 1: same as Eric's, plus another loss with a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 1: an older defense, and mediocre receivers. I didn't have very

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Speaker 1: high hopes, so after they surpassed my expectations, any other

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Speaker 1: positive accomplishments for the season was just extra gravy on top.

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Speaker 1: I'm pleased with how things went, and I'm very excited

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Speaker 1: for the future of the team. I would ask that

1467
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: you send it in an email for Thursday and let

1468
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: us know what you think they'll do next year, because

1469
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: I agree with everything. I agree with everything he just wrote.

1470
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: If you, Eric, what did you think they were going

1471
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: to go seven and ten? So if you thought they

1472
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: were going to go six and eleven, this was a

1473
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: wild success. You thought they sucked, so they were a

1474
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: playoff team, So they were, you know, are eight distance

1475
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: away from what you thought they were going to be

1476
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: in the positive direction. Of course, you were were you

1477
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: we thrilled? I think a lot of other people thought

1478
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: they were a playoff team. They made the playoffs and

1479
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: then got blown out in the playoffs, so some other

1480
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: people aren't as excited about the progress that they made it.

1481
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that a fair way to look at it?

1482
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: If you thought they were going to win six games

1483
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: and they win ten. There were some people, that's huge

1484
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: that I remember at the beginning of the season saying

1485
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 1: that this team would be a bust if they didn't

1486
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Remember they were talking about how, you know,

1487
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: after all the moves and one hundred and seventy million

1488
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: dollars and not make the playoffs some people and I

1489
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: thought those people were you know, a little you know,

1490
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: over zealous in making those I did too, I thought

1491
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: they I thought they had a chance to be a

1492
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: playoff team. Yeah, but it's it's so specific with that season,

1493
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of things that I loved

1494
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: about that season. I mean, I thought, even those losses

1495
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys and the Bucks, what fun games. I mean,

1496
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: just to the atmosphere, it felt like you were part

1497
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: of something. I agree. That's what changed from the beginning

1498
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: of the season to the end of the season. When

1499
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: they lost a bad teams early, you felt like you

1500
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: were right there. When they lost to the better teams late,

1501
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like And that feeds to it to

1502
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: my next point of you know, as much as I

1503
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: thought that they would be on the cusp and a

1504
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: nine ten win team and get in the playoffs and

1505
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they did, the way it looked

1506
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: at the end was gross, you know, and it's hard

1507
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: to like resign yourself and be like, yeah, but it

1508
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: was great, and it also is I think it's just

1509
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: a continuation of my bigger point going in this offseason,

1510
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: which is like, well, that's your one of the bree build.

1511
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: Certainly things will be better next year, right Like, I

1512
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: don't think that that's a shirt. I think that they've

1513
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do that there's a

1514
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: lot of turnover. Last season was last season, and mac

1515
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: Jones had a solid first season, but it's not gonna

1516
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: matter come fall twenty twenty two. They've got a lot

1517
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: of work to do to get better. That last game

1518
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: left a bitter, bitter, bitter taste in all our mouths.

1519
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it was the last embarrassing well I know,

1520
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: but but that was the worst of it. And you know,

1521
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: we're just so conditioned that they step up, you know,

1522
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: they step and even in that last game after everything

1523
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: that was so ont they're gonna step up against the Bills.

1524
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: It'll be a good game. And it was anything. But

1525
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I people say that's like the

1526
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: second worst loss in Bill Belichick's uh second, I mean

1527
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: score wise, but but I mean, you know, to be

1528
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: dominated the way they did, you know, to not be

1529
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: able to you know, seven drive seven touchdowns, yeah that

1530
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that that was really bad. And so

1531
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: and that's our last thought of the Patriots, you know, yeah,

1532
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: well that's why I like the Pro Bowl too, because

1533
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: you got a little bit of something different. But I mean,

1534
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: and Paul brought up O nine and that's just the

1535
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: fashion in which it ended counts for something, and there

1536
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: was something more there than just a team that wasn't

1537
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: good enough to be there. Like it was a team

1538
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: that didn't have it. They didn't bring the energy, they

1539
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: didn't come ready to play that game. So I think

1540
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: what carries over into this season is what was that

1541
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: Because for two out of the last three years and

1542
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: I through twenty twenty kind of out of it. You've

1543
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: seen this stumble down the end and this you know,

1544
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: when it's supposed to be everything starting to click and

1545
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: you know what your strengths are and you're playing towards it,

1546
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: and you're motivated by games that happened earlier in the season.

1547
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: All that stuff was out the window and it was

1548
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: all there for the taking. And I think that's what's

1549
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: hard for a Patriots fan like me to take. When

1550
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: you have all these things that you believe of. They

1551
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: get better with the good coaching over the course of

1552
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: the year. They play hard all the time, They're a

1553
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: tough team to play against. They were none of those

1554
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: things in the finale. And I think when they come

1555
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: out of the tunnel in the opener next year, that's

1556
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: the taste that I'm gonna want washed out of my mouth,

1557
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: is to see a team that's going to come out

1558
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: and play with a renewed sense of energy and not

1559
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 1: obviously the one that got rolled off the field. I mean,

1560
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: they had no answer, nothing, nothing from the get go.

1561
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. You know,

1562
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: now I'm depressed again, but forgotten that. I was just

1563
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: thinking about Max run and they're pretty And now I

1564
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: got to think about that game. They just showed it,

1565
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 1: by the way, because they're talking about Justice Jefferson on

1566
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: NFL Network and they showed the Mac play and I

1567
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: was actually wrong. I think it was a three yard

1568
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: run when when they blew it, they blew it dead.

1569
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: But with the way they were ruling tackling, and I

1570
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 1: didn't blame him for just keep going right, but every

1571
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: he ran by several guys that were that were standing

1572
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: still like whatever that is that the back judge, the

1573
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: one that's all the way in the back, it calls,

1574
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, back judge calls the delay a game penalty.

1575
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: You know, the guy that's way in the back of

1576
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: the defense. He's standing there like thirty yards behind the

1577
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: scrimmage and Mac is running at him and he doesn't

1578
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: even move. He doesn't even turn, no, like he's buy

1579
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: him like ten yards before he kind of like what

1580
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 1: is he going? That's the question? From what yard line?

1581
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: Did you realize it was? Just? I think I think

1582
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: he definitely that right, you totally. I love it. Shrisha

1583
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: from Bangalore. Do you think that the Patriots should think

1584
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: about stability in the OC position before hiring someone to

1585
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: that position because this will affect Max grow. How does

1586
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: the hiring of Joe Judge affect this. I don't think

1587
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: Bill will be personally coaching Matt. So do you think

1588
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: Joe Judge will be doing that? What are your thoughts? Yeah, yeah,

1589
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: he will be. Yeah, because they did lose there. I

1590
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: don't know what Joe Judge was hired to do. Yeah,

1591
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't even hired. Yeah, we don't

1592
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: know what he was hired, right. If he was tired,

1593
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: it was supposedly as an offensive assistant. I don't know

1594
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: what that entails, right, And uh, the guy who was

1595
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: helping coach quarterbacks with Josh last year has gone with

1596
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: Josh to the Raiders. Bo heart agree. So they do

1597
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: need somebody who was going to sort of focus on

1598
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: that position and the offense overall. And so between Joe Judge,

1599
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 1: Brian Day will, how those giants joint practices. That's gonna

1600
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: be some weird, some weird energy out there on the field,

1601
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, he'd be doing my thing right,

1602
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: like looking at each other like here used to go right,

1603
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: you were here, now you're not. You get their ass

1604
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: last year. Let's get to the a sticket outline. Eldred's

1605
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. He was there, you yeah, he had

1606
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: to driving. Um Andrews in LA. What's up, Andrew Heart,

1607
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: he's back at it again. Oh yeah, you're going to

1608
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, Andrew? Uh you know what really funny story,

1609
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: So my wife boss might be like getting tickets from

1610
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: his employer. He said that if he gets them, he's

1611
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna take me and we'll see hopefully. I'm a big Joe.

1612
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm a big Burro Brady fan. Um, but going with

1613
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: the LSU team. Um, you guys know where the gritty

1614
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: came from? Enlighten us? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, so, um,

1615
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: one of the friends of Jamar Chase made up a

1616
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: dance and then it just caught on at LSU. So

1617
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: like Jamar Chase started doing it and justin Jefferson. So

1618
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: that's where it came from. And that actually started with Chase,

1619
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 1: not Jefferson because I think, yeah, Chase's friend, Yeah, it's

1620
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: money and his friend made it up and that's how

1621
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: it caught on at LFU. Yeah, so a little backstory

1622
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: with that. Did you guys feel like my dance was

1623
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: catching on? And I'll take you When I walked to

1624
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: the bathroom. No, no, that's sache No, it was quite sweet,

1625
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 1: but it probably yeah, it was. It was quite honest.

1626
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: It was quite the sas. I want to burn it

1627
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: out of my eyeballs forever. Can you see you describe

1628
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 1: it for me, Paul. He was sort of um first,

1629
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: he was swinging his hips and he was sort of

1630
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: moving his hands back and forth from side to side

1631
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: as he was sacheting down the corridor to go to

1632
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: the back. What's that old movie with John Travolta and

1633
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis where they're doing that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1634
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: yeah perfect? Is that what? Yeah? That's what it looked? Perfect.

1635
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder where perfect perfect? But I can

1636
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: see the video cassette, Bob, Yeah, perfect, Well it was.

1637
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut your guys off, wouldn't dance talk?

1638
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: But that was in the wheelhouse. I was thinking about

1639
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: how obviously Brady and that interview sounds like there might

1640
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: be some inkling that he still wants to play right,

1641
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about how if he came back

1642
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: in a few months and the Bucks had build up

1643
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: their cap space, he could essentially basically force a release

1644
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: or a trade, kind of like what Bronkowski did with

1645
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: the Patriot and I kind of look at wrong. I

1646
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: kind of look at Gronkowski when I'm looking at Brady

1647
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: because I feel like their relationships kind of close, and

1648
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Bronk wants to play anywhere without Brady.

1649
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: Do you guys think it's interesting that Bronkowski hasn't said

1650
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: anything about his future. He's technically a free agent, and

1651
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't said anything about retiring or playing or going

1652
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Yeah, Oh yeah. I think he had a

1653
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: press conference after the season and said he was going

1654
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 1: to give it some time before he made his tor

1655
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: and Andrew, that's probably what the time is for, right

1656
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: to figure out what Tom is doing? What are you doing?

1657
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: Most definitely that I just thought that was kind of

1658
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: interesting because I feel like those guys talk a lot,

1659
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: and if they were going to go anywhere, he's gonna

1660
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: like cook Gronks somewhere to like wait for him and

1661
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: like keep the keep it warm for him and then

1662
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: he'll be ready. I think the whole thing with forcing

1663
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: your way out of Tampa is it's still contingent on

1664
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: Tampa doing it. Like the Patriots actu esked with with

1665
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: Gronk said, I only want to play for Brady. They

1666
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: didn't have to make a trade, right right, No way.

1667
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: So if if Tampa just says, well, no, you're either

1668
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: gonna play for us or nobody, kind of like Barry

1669
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: Sanders back in the day retired the Detroit owned his

1670
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: rights and refused to get rid of him, and then

1671
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: he got too old and could still up their cap

1672
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: based I know that the cap is crap, but you know,

1673
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: the real dollars are at work here, And if they

1674
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: go out and get a starter, like let's say they

1675
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: go out and pay over twenty million dollars for a starter,

1676
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: because maybe in their minds they're still contenders, and then

1677
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: they fill up that cap and they're like, well, now

1678
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: we have two starting quarterbacks and Kyle trap. Yeah, but

1679
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: he has to come back and play to do that,

1680
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: you can, I mean, you're gonna call us? Is he

1681
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: gonna call their bluff? Brady's gonna call their bluff? Yeah?

1682
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: Are you saying that? Well, but I'm saying if he

1683
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: waits a while and they try to make a move

1684
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: and they divulge all these assets into getting another quarterback, right,

1685
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: he kind of has the power play there. He can say, well,

1686
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: now I'm unretired, I know, and you know. And they

1687
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: can then say you'll need to play for us or nobody. Yeah,

1688
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: they can do that. Yeah, well, if Brady's not gonna play,

1689
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: But then Brady clearly doesn't want to play for Tampa,

1690
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: right right, But Paul, if he comes back, that means

1691
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: that the cap is reactivated. So that means that if

1692
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: they spent that money, it's only reactivated if he decides

1693
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: to play. No, But but that's his leverage, right, Is

1694
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: he gonna call Tampa's bluff? Right? That's what I'm asking. Well,

1695
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: each one of them are calling each other's bluff, you know. Well,

1696
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question that Tampa would do

1697
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: if they want him to play. Oh, I don't care

1698
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: who they get. No, they want Brady to play, I know.

1699
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: But to Travis, but his point is, Andrew's point is

1700
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: this is down the road. Yeah, so the Bucks have

1701
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: already Alex, unless it's like Aaron Rodgers, Bucks want Brady

1702
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: to play. No, But I'm saying, so what about the

1703
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson or something like that. I think they would

1704
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: rather have Brady. Yeah, but what if they've already gone

1705
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: down the road, and gutt and b right, I can

1706
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: put him off for a year. I would rather have

1707
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: Brady plan that. This is my point. So yeah, but

1708
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: can you do both? Yeah? Yeah, let's let's not talk.

1709
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 1: Can we please be be adults? What can we be

1710
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: adults to just say? It doesn't really matter what the

1711
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: cap hit is? Well? It does, I mean it doesn't.

1712
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: You can't have two quarterbacks making sixty million dollars. You know.

1713
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: First of all, Deshaun Watson doesn't make thirty, so you

1714
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about him when he comes back.

1715
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Who knows he's under contract? You know, I I hear

1716
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: what is and I don't think Brady is going to

1717
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: command Brady. His contract doesn't call for thirty, does it?

1718
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it does? Maybe it does? Yeh. So so that

1719
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: that means you could have if DeShawn watching his thirty

1720
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: and he's fifteen, you're still five. We could do that.

1721
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: I think it's more than that for Brad I think

1722
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: he's owed fifteen, but I think if he comes back

1723
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: it I just don't you guys worry so much about

1724
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 1: the cap and that's really not part of the equation. Well,

1725
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: then what's the leverage for a guy like Brady to

1726
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: to get out of town. How can he do it?

1727
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: You're saying, well, he could demand a trade. Yeah, but Andy,

1728
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: they say, right, but I did, and then he'd have

1729
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: to retire, which is what he's But I think gron

1730
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: I think Gronk's leverage was I'll come back. And then

1731
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: Patries didn't want to pay him, you know, so they said, okay,

1732
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: well we'll trade you. Correct, you know, so correct? That

1733
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: was his leverage. Say it again. He didn't want to

1734
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: pay him. They didn't want to pay, right, So his

1735
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: le ridge was to threaten to come back, right. But

1736
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: that I don't think the Bucks would have any problems

1737
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: paying him. Yeah, this is my point. This is the

1738
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: part that you're not right today. I don't think I

1739
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: agree with you. But he's in Andrew's scenario. This is

1740
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: down the road where they've already settled what they're gonna

1741
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: do with quarterback, you know, And yeah, I think we've

1742
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: got other We've got other ideas for that money, you know.

1743
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is I think they would rather

1744
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: have Brady. I mean, unless it's like Aaron Rodgers, like

1745
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,520
Speaker 1: you go out and you make a deal with Tampa

1746
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: where you're trading, you know, and I guess if you

1747
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 1: had to trade a lot for Deshaun Watson. Yeah, I mean,

1748
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: Andrew's right, you haven't you know? Brady could then go

1749
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: and say, well, they didn't give up two first round

1750
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: picks to get a quarterback and then have me play right,

1751
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: that's what? Can we just take the cap out of

1752
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 1: it and be an adult like it doesn't have anything

1753
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: to do with cap space. I don't even want and

1754
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: enter into that. And actually, uh, Deshaun Watson salary is

1755
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna is gonna go out? You are? It's like, no,

1756
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: never mind, I'll be good. I don't believe. Thanks Andrew.

1757
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Can we be adults? Uh? Toddson Greens makes a lot

1758
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,839
Speaker 1: of money? So I just a quick question. Our special

1759
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: teams were kind of thirty last year. How much do

1760
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: you think an improvement to our special teams would change

1761
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 1: our record? Would we buy one game extra winning two games?

1762
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: Or we just needed to zero? We just need to overhaul? Okay,

1763
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: so what do you think that? I mean that one

1764
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: game in Indy, if you don't get that punt blocked?

1765
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: Is what is your chances of winning that game? Certainly

1766
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: better than what happened, But I'm not willing to say

1767
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: they lost the game because they got a punt block. Yeah,

1768
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: but over and then overall in the season, Like, how

1769
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: much of a difference would it have made? Not much,

1770
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: not much big? I mean, I think it would have

1771
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: been more if it was Nick Folk was terrible. I

1772
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: think you got good performance out of that. To me

1773
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 1: is why I say probably nothing because your special teams

1774
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: were bad, but your kicker was the best in the

1775
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: league in terms of production, so that off sets that

1776
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's my next question. Do you think

1777
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 1: Folk is going to be able to come back? Isn't

1778
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: he getting pretty old? Thirty seven? He said at the

1779
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: end of the year he was still interested by beer. Yeah.

1780
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: They did sign Quinn Ordine to a future so he'll

1781
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: be he'll be back. I think some other futures guys

1782
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: to Bill Burr, Yeah, going for me, right, Yeah? Who else?

1783
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: A couple of guys. There were a couple of guys Arlington, Hambright. Well,

1784
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: we know there was somebody. There was somebody last week. Oh, um, Daniel,

1785
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: that's not the one I was thinking of, though they

1786
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: didn't really sign. I thought there was another one that

1787
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: they just signed to a futures dealt some of those.

1788
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 1: Next question is just do you think Flores had the

1789
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Canadian Football League take Flores back or Floors burnt his

1790
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: bridge by putting out those emails like that or the

1791
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: sort of the text me that's not that's I don't know.

1792
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that did it. But him calling out

1793
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: Belichick is being part of the old Boys network probably did. Wow.

1794
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 1: All right, yes, yeah, well I never I would agree

1795
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: with that point. I think, like, to me, the follow

1796
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: up conversation where he said there's something wrong, the system's broken.

1797
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick shouldn't have that kind of power, right, He's

1798
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: part of the problem. Yeah, that to me. You know,

1799
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I think Bill is a pretty open minded guy when

1800
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: it comes to if he if he thought it was

1801
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the best for the team, it's not a deal breaker,

1802
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: but I would say it's probably far fetched. I think

1803
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: he's coming back now. Yeah, I would take him in

1804
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. Yeah, I would coach. I think it would

1805
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 1: be a good move if they did. I agree. I agree,

1806
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: can the defensive coordinator now you're talking, Now you're talking,

1807
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: will make him the defensive assistant? Neither of them ever,

1808
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: the whole year, you keep getting like that's what I

1809
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, to Fred's point at the very start of

1810
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: the show if there was like some kind of sort

1811
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 1: of benefit, tangible or not, and that to me would

1812
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: be one like I don't like my guys talking to

1813
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 1: the media. I don't want I want to shield them

1814
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: from that. But now that all these coaches have to talk, right.

1815
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: The question though, that Todd brings up is a good one, though,

1816
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: about any potential damage to their relationship, because clearly there

1817
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: was enough of a relationship for Bill to reach out. Well,

1818
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 1: I guess I guess you could argue that her right, no,

1819
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: but but you could also you could also make the

1820
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: argument that he thought maybe they were talking about Brian Flores.

1821
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: That's one of them, you know, Yeah, because if you

1822
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: read the texts for what it's worth, he it could

1823
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: for word, it means that he thought the giants were

1824
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: talking about Flores, because Bill says it could be that

1825
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: could be because Bill says, I misread the text, right,

1826
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: I thought they were talking about right you. But it

1827
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: sounds like but that could be Bill covering up for

1828
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 1: it could be you know, I think there was some

1829
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: gray area in terms of he either was texting the

1830
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: wrong Brian, which I think was the case, or that

1831
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: he thought he thought he was texting Flores, and he

1832
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: thought Flores was the guy the Giants were going to hire, right,

1833
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: and then he realized he screwed it up. I read

1834
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: the text wrong. I don't think that's what it was.

1835
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: And I think Flora's sort of has come out and

1836
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: basically said he made a mistake. He thought he was

1837
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: talking to Brian Dable, right, and that he recommended Dabel

1838
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: for the job, right, Like that's like, that's part of

1839
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 1: this is this is what I'm talking about, where he says,

1840
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick is part of the old boy network

1841
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: and he has too much sway as to who's getting

1842
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: hired that they need to, you know, rethink their hiring

1843
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 1: practices and how you go about it. It shouldn't just

1844
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 1: be word of mouth from from guys that you know,

1845
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: especially if if you're the Giants, Like, Okay, what's the

1846
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: motivation for Bill suggesting Dable? Can you imagine? Well, you know,

1847
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 1: he also wants them out of the bills. Yeah, yeah,

1848
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: he'd be great for you. Yeah. Can you imagine Joe

1849
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: Judge and then the Giants go back to him, like

1850
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 1: that's how Joe Judge got the job in the first place.

1851
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: Was a strong recommendation from Bill, and they wouldn't let him,

1852
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: and Bill wouldn't let him talk to McDaniels. Right two

1853
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: years later, you're going back to Bill for a suggestion

1854
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: after the way that one worked out. I don't know,

1855
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 1: Magic Sauce the giants giants man, you know, and we

1856
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: talk about like the owners in the league and all

1857
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: the back channeling and stuff that goes on at that level.

1858
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: I imagine like at that head coaching level there's a

1859
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: lot of politics and Game of Thrones stuff and all

1860
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: that too, you know. Yeah, that's where Bills like kind

1861
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: of a puppet master, you know. I think they're definitely yeah,

1862
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: I think that's definitely true. I just laugh at getting

1863
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: to see the actual text messages. I know some people

1864
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: are making a joke about we talk about punctuation, Bill

1865
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: doing the exclamation question exclamation that back. But just like

1866
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 1: how Flora's like the vibe through it is like very

1867
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: much like me talking like oh thank you, so yeah,

1868
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 1: you know, like talking to your old coach, like thanks, coach,

1869
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it, like I got you, um that that And

1870
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: that was the only thing I was a little disappointed,

1871
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: like when this all came out was that My initial

1872
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: hope was just that I would hope that Flora's before

1873
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: he made put his text a front and center on

1874
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: what he filed legally, that he had given him heads

1875
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: up and and you know, I think that that might

1876
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: be where there could be contention. And then, as Paul

1877
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 1: put pointed out, I think then he he just went

1878
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: fully into into that way of it. So it's too bad.

1879
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a great coach. And I mean,

1880
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, selfishly, you're glad he's not in Miami. I mean,

1881
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: no offense to Mike McDaniel. But I look at him

1882
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this guy doesn't scare me at all

1883
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 1: as a football coach. I mean, he might be brilliant

1884
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll be torturing us for years, but um,

1885
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, I just did the striking contrast between Brian Dabele,

1886
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: who just looks like ultimate football coach, badass guy. And

1887
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: then you know, and then they got this nerdy guy

1888
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: with glasses coming in. I thought they hired him. Now,

1889
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: I thought they hired him as like They're like, um,

1890
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 1: this guy right, And then I saw the caption I've

1891
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: got a coach, this guy right, right, let's see there

1892
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: you go. I guess he's yes, sir right away. Uh,

1893
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Travis is in California. Hey Travis, Hey, Hey. I guess

1894
01:36:56,200 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: this is more of a question for for for because

1895
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of the Bengals taint and stuff.

1896
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 1: But since they're in the Super Bowl, I've been watching

1897
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: more of the Joe Brow I think him mac Jones

1898
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 1: are pretty comparable. And I know Paul's a big Joe

1899
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Burrow fan. So you're seeing the same thing or no. Um,

1900
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: But I would ask you what you think that they

1901
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: do comparably. Well, I'm just saying they're stats and everything.

1902
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I know, stats don't tell the whole story, don't I

1903
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: get that. I just when I've watched The Thrones, the

1904
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 1: mechanics are all the same. The only real difference that

1905
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing is Joe Brow is throwing the guy throwing

1906
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: a five yards plant to a guy who's taking it

1907
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: to the house, and Mac Jones guy gets stopped up. Yeah,

1908
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a little oversimplifying it. Arm Strength and

1909
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: athleticism are two glaring things that yeah, I don't really

1910
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: see think. Oh he's a first of all, he's a

1911
01:37:55,880 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 1: much better runner, even coming off at twenty acl. I

1912
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,759
Speaker 1: don't even think it's close. Did you see his sixty

1913
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 1: five yards? I did the three yard run? I did

1914
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 1: see it. Listen. I think Max a little bit more

1915
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: athletic than we gave him credit for coming out of college.

1916
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: He's shown that a little bit. So listen. I'm the

1917
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: stats are similar, but I mean no, I mean I'm

1918
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: talking about certain stats, certain stats, not when you talk

1919
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 1: about yard completion percentage. Maybe is close, but like let's

1920
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 1: let's I know, but no, but that but that's not

1921
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: about what happened, you know, So you gotta just look

1922
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: at the games, and you got to look at the player.

1923
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: And one less game Burrow through twelve more touchdowns, Joe,

1924
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a better quarterback at least right now. Yeah,

1925
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what. You don't know what Mac Jones

1926
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: will become right well that that's okay. But but but

1927
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 1: you can and and that's fine, you can speculate what if,

1928
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 1: what if? What if? But right now, if you look

1929
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: at Joe Burrow and you look at Mac Jones, you

1930
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: just gotta say, Joe Burrows a bit of quarterback right now.

1931
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 1: Right now, I just don't know how you could use

1932
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 1: anything in terms of structure around a guy for a

1933
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: guy who quarterbacks the Cincinnati Bengals as a negative, like, yeah,

1934
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of the three worst franchises in

1935
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: the history of the sport, right, and he came in

1936
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: in two years while tearing up his knee halfway through

1937
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: one of them and has it in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

1938
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback, man, So I mean, and then

1939
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't take anything away from that Jones. I'm not

1940
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: taking it. I'm not taking anything away from Mac Jones. Again,

1941
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm very, very pleased at Mac Jones is our quarterback.

1942
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: But I can say that and also say that Joe

1943
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 1: Burrow's really freaking good, and I can say that Herbert's

1944
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: really really good, and I can say that Trevor Lawrence

1945
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: is really really good. I actually think he has a

1946
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 1: chance to be like Herbert, not in style, like see

1947
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: here's the physical stuff that you might look at that

1948
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: in Mac Jones and not a huge difference in talent.

1949
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: I disagree, but they're not like Joe Burrow is not

1950
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 1: justin Herbert. He's not this six five six kid, you know,

1951
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: six six guy with a laser beam for nothing. But

1952
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: I think he has vastly superior skills than Mac Jones.

1953
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying. If you think it's close,

1954
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 1: you watched Joe Burrow and you don't think there's something

1955
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: different about him, right, Yeah, he's got it. Joe Burrow

1956
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: isn't tucking his head between his legs down fourteen. I

1957
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: saw him do it many times, and I saw him

1958
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: do it in Kansas City down twenty one to three. Like,

1959
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 1: he wasn't great that day, He didn't play a great game,

1960
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: but he did it when he had to, and he

1961
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: let a comeback on the road against the best team

1962
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: in the conference, against the best player in the conference. Now, yes,

1963
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: did he get lucky that the best player in the

1964
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: conference was awful in the second half? Yep, he did.

1965
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: But I just don't know how you can watch Joe

1966
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: Burrow and not see more than you've seen from Matt.

1967
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can say I agree with

1968
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 1: your points, Paul, and I think I do think that.

1969
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they're both pocket passers, so I think just

1970
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: at a base level, you can say, you know, it's

1971
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 1: it's not like this is a dying breed. You can

1972
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: still That's where I think he can he's he's comfortable

1973
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: in the pocket, he's just as comfortable outside it making plays.

1974
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: He did that a lot in the Kansas City game.

1975
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about runs. I'm not talking

1976
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: about He has a god awful offensive line, which, by

1977
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: the way, remind me on Thursday to get into that

1978
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: because we all know how that is the integral piece

1979
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: for Super Bowl success. This is two years in a

1980
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: row now the worst offensive line I've ever seen is

1981
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Whatever. Keep telling me about how

1982
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 1: important it is. But he has to run for his

1983
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: life almost every game. He doesn't just sit back and

1984
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: throw and pick out his guys from the pocket. He

1985
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: does things that Mac can't now. Maybe Mac will be

1986
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: able to do them someday, but he does things now

1987
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 1: that Matt can't do now, right now, right now, right

1988
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 1: That's why I said this is not about Mac Jones. No,

1989
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Joe Burrow. I think way

1990
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: more of Joe Burrow than justin Herbert. I think Mac

1991
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 1: has some of the intangibles that Herbert lacks. That's why

1992
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: I think physically he won't compare to Herbert, but he

1993
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: might be a better player than That's and that's why

1994
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: he might be a better player than him someday. Yeah,

1995
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: And that's along those lines of and I don't want

1996
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 1: to boil it down to Joe cool, but there's a

1997
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 1: presence about Joe Burrow that Mac doesn't have. He didn't

1998
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: have it this year as a rookie, and I think

1999
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I look at in year

2000
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: two of that confidence. Like you mentioned, doesn't pee his

2001
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: leg when he's down points. He exudes a confidence and

2002
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: knowledge in himself and in the system, and that's one

2003
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 1: thing that I want him go. But I think, I think,

2004
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I think to h Deuce's point, you know, he held

2005
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 1: back in terms of the you know, vocal leadership thing.

2006
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: I think you'll see more of that, and I think

2007
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: we'll see it all this summer. And just you know,

2008
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: I just think that there's such a rage to get

2009
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who can run like the wind and I don't.

2010
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 1: And I I every point about outside of the pocket.

2011
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 1: That's fine, maybe Max a little bit more confined, but

2012
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: I just think it's a reminder that you can win

2013
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: in this league throwing the ball and you don't have

2014
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: to be this dynamic off platform for three quarterback as well,

2015
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 1: there's ways to do it. But I'm a huge Joe

2016
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 1: Burrow fan. He's won me over this year. There's just,

2017
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's something intangible about me. I

2018
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 1: don't think I agree with you. I don't think you

2019
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: need to run and I would say Mahomes. I don't

2020
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 1: think Mahomes runs a lot, but he runs effectively when

2021
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 1: he does, when he needs to, he runs effectively. I

2022
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: think Burrow does the same thing. I don't think Burrow's

2023
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: quite as athletic as Mahomes, but I think he runs

2024
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 1: really well when he needs to. I don't think Mac

2025
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: has that. Yeah, I don't think he has that ability. Now,

2026
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 1: you could throw it in the face and say, well,

2027
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, guys like Breeze and Manning and Brady did it.

2028
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. They were the very best ever at

2029
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: what they did, you know, just sort of standing in

2030
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 1: the pocket and throwing right from the pocket. I don't

2031
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 1: know if Mac Jones has that kind of ability, passing ability,

2032
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: but i'd like to see I'd like to see him

2033
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: surrounded with guys too that you know that Joe Burrow

2034
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: has that. I mean, and I don't, you know, necessarily

2035
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 1: think that everything's a five yard slant. I mean, he

2036
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 1: makes plenty of downface and we're talking about Drew Bledso

2037
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: I really do. And you know how much I love

2038
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: me some Drew. Yeah, but you know, yeah, it's Michael

2039
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 1: Timpson and Ray Critten. Did we need to get up

2040
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: some weapons? Yeah, no kidding. Everybody is better. The better

2041
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:24,600
Speaker 1: players you have around you, the better you're gonna be.

2042
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 1: Can you elevate those guys? Yeah, no matter who it is.

2043
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 1: Can you make Michael Timpson a seventy catch guy? Vincent

2044
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Brisbee a seventy catch guy? That's what Drew did to

2045
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 1: those guys. Those guys weren't any better players than Nelson

2046
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Agalore or Kendrick Bourne. No, I can promise you. Yeah,

2047
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: those guys were jacks. Then they brought Sean Jefferson and

2048
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,600
Speaker 1: Terry glenn In and you went to the Super Bowl.

2049
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: Right there, you go, Um, Joe and Owen sound Ontario.

2050
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 1: Get the sense that many in Patriots Nation feel it's

2051
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: just a matter of time until we retool and win

2052
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 1: another three Super Bowls in four years and dominate the

2053
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,440
Speaker 1: league for another twenty. I recognize that this is completely unrealistic.

2054
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: So I ask you, in building the team, would you

2055
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: prefer a team that over the next ten years either

2056
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 1: one or A he has wins one Super Bowl, loses

2057
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: one AFC Championship game, has two first round exits, and

2058
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 1: misses the playoffs six times, or makes the playoffs nine times,

2059
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 1: never gets to the super Bowl, plays in the AFC

2060
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 1: Championship three times, and wins a couple more playoff games.

2061
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Answer first one was twining the Super Bowl. Yeah, the

2062
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 1: answer is yeah, I'll go with that. Yeah, while it

2063
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: would be nice to consistently be relevant, I think I

2064
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 1: might trade some bad years for a couple of really

2065
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: good ones and a championship. We all agree, might. I

2066
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: don't really see there's no might the two options there. Yeah.

2067
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: Do you think Eli is an apt comparison to Mac

2068
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 1: Jones A little bit? Is there anything there with Eli Manning?

2069
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's he was always that guy

2070
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: of never elite, never one of like the button. He

2071
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 1: won a couple of super Bowls. But I don't know.

2072
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: It's everybody wants comps when he get back, but they

2073
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: only want comps of guys they think are really really good. Yeah,

2074
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 1: they don't want the comp of Chad Pennington. Yea, even

2075
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 1: though Chad Pennington was a terrific quarterback, um Jack and

2076
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 1: and Arbor says, as I've stated previously, the thing that

2077
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 1: distinguishes Mac Jones as an NFL quarterback is his elite accuracy.

2078
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: That is one of his traits. Absolutely, he's accurate. But

2079
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 1: I this is where I'm gonna argue Paul side of

2080
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 1: the fence with Patriots fans, we are so insecure, insensitive,

2081
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,839
Speaker 1: you know, like about Mac. And one of the problems

2082
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: that happened is the minute he was you know, drafted,

2083
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: it was like, this guy can be the next Tom

2084
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: Brady or he's going to be a bust. And the

2085
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: two sides dug their heels in and there was no like,

2086
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: let's just see how he does. Like he's doing okay,

2087
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: well let's just see. And it's like if you say

2088
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 1: one thing like well he can't do that, then it's

2089
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you hate Matt Jones. And if you say, to Jack's point,

2090
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: he's pretty accurate, that's what his you know, if he

2091
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: has a superpower in the NFL, that that's what it is.

2092
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: Then the other side it's like, whoa, what's that gonna

2093
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: give him? You know, it's it's unbelievable, like it's either

2094
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 1: one or the other, can we just give this kid

2095
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: a chance? And I think part of it is what Matt,

2096
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: what Mike is talking about with the comps, because we've

2097
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,640
Speaker 1: been inundated with the comps, like who cares who he

2098
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: compares to? Right? Right? But just in that argument for

2099
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Fred's point, you get people that say, oh, he could

2100
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: be he could be like Kirk Cousins, And people look

2101
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: at you like, yeah, are you kidding me? Because they

2102
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: look at Kirk cousins career and they say, well, if

2103
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: he's Kirk Cousins, then he'll have the exact same results. No, No,

2104
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: you have better coaches, you know, better situation, whatever. But

2105
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,799
Speaker 1: even talking about that, like he automatically they better coaches.

2106
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we just spent the first hour and forty

2107
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: five minutes trashing the coaching. No, but I'm just saying,

2108
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: like anything can point is what's so bad about being

2109
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins? Well, yes, I agree, do I think

2110
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 1: you you know that's good enough? I don't personally, But

2111
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 1: there were a lot of guys in the league worse

2112
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: than Kirk Cousins. Right. Andy Dalton for four years had

2113
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 1: the same more abund Bengals in the playoffs every year

2114
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 1: and now people are so offended if you say he

2115
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: could be like Chad Pennington. Yeah, if you don't say

2116
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,599
Speaker 1: he could be like Tom Brady, you're selling. I'm shoring right.

2117
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 1: If it can't be fourteen and two, thirteen and three

2118
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 1: every year, Like, what are the odds in the playoffs,

2119
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 1: the odds of him being anywhere near as good as

2120
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Like, just try to be realistic going to happen.

2121
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: That's why anytime we get a scenario and they have

2122
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: one where he wins the super Bowl, I'm in like,

2123
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: that's that. That'll be Mack wins one super Bowl. I

2124
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: don't care if it's Mac or anybody else. If you

2125
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: have a ten year period and one of those periods

2126
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: involves winning the super Bowl, the other one doesn't, I'll

2127
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: take the one that involves winning it. Yes, And your

2128
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 1: guy was driving everybody crazy yesterday, and he's probably doing

2129
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 1: it on purpose because he was all about Mac. He's

2130
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 1: a boy, you know, he's a puppy to this guy

2131
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 1: who sounds like he's going through puberty. Is criticizing this

2132
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 1: guy before being a boy Tony. He gets these stupid things,

2133
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 1: I mean, and he won't let him off on it.

2134
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: A leader the run dance and being silly, being silly, Yeah,

2135
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I kind of something. I feel like I've been a

2136
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 1: little critical of Mac during the course of the season,

2137
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: but I kind of like that. Yeah, I don't think

2138
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: it was anywhere near as significant as it's been made

2139
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 1: out to be, like, oh, it's a sign that he's arrived.

2140
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 1: I've heard all the other thing it's there, But but

2141
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: I am on the side of I liked it. I

2142
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: thought it was funny, and I thought there was nothing

2143
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:55,919
Speaker 1: wrong with it. There was nothing to criticize about. It

2144
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: tells you some of the Pro Bowl itself, tells you

2145
01:49:57,920 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: always not to know about the Pro Bowl, and that's

2146
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: the highlight of it, right, And it shows that he

2147
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: has the confidence to do that. NFL stars then that

2148
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 1: they would take amusement out, you know, I've read one

2149
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: of these guys wrote that Max saved the Pro Bowl.

2150
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: I think it was Andrew Kelly wrote. The headline was

2151
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 1: Max saves PROO. It was literally, if if you're in

2152
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 1: Kansas City, you're probably seeing highlights of stuff that Mahomes

2153
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: was doing on the sideline. We live in this bubble,

2154
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, right, I had no like I said, I

2155
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: had no problem and I thought it was a good thing.

2156
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. I thought he showed a

2157
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: little personality. I think those are good things. Sure, But

2158
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 1: every argument seems to be it's either proving it's either

2159
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: proving he's never gonna make it or proving that he's

2160
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame. Can we just like

2161
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 1: give this kid a chance and let him be who

2162
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 1: he's gonna be. I said that during the course of

2163
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: the season, it's not fair to Mac no the way

2164
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: he's treated by the by the mac mafia. Yeah, right,

2165
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 1: right now, they're building him up too much. And then

2166
01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: if he if he had God forbid, he only gets

2167
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl disappointment terrible. I've heard that, Mike, don't

2168
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 1: tell me you haven't. Let's let's say macis here for

2169
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 1: ten years and wins the Super Bowl? Will you be disappointed? Wildly? Wildly?

2170
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: And I think that there's like a bigger point to

2171
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 1: it of how many competitive football games do you get

2172
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: to watch? Like going back to watching the Dallas in

2173
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay what's your losses? But like I want

2174
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: to be competitive. I want to watch good football games.

2175
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in and you know, we're

2176
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 1: getting killed, and like, if he has the Patriots on

2177
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: the playoff cust for ten years, that's great. That we're

2178
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 1: so spoiled, it's unbelievable. But Mike is not exaggerated. I've

2179
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 1: heard people say if he goes ten years and only

2180
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: wins one, that's a fail. No, how can you then?

2181
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 1: Who said that? People in the media or fans both

2182
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: God distinguished between the two sometimes on my shows. Yeah,

2183
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, our expectations have been just so warped because

2184
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: of the last twenty years, just warped. Alright, anyone, I

2185
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: don't know. Let's go to Patty and agawam, what's up Patty?

2186
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? Hey, hey back Paul, Polly, how dare

2187
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: you crap on my guy? After doing the gritty? But no, seriously, UM,

2188
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, uh, bring up a couple

2189
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: of things as far as like comps go. I don't

2190
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: think that the Eli Manning tomp is that far off

2191
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 1: because he's actually one of the players that something out.

2192
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 1: But um, I'm kind of with you too, Polly on

2193
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: the intangibles. And I don't know if you guys caught this,

2194
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: but uh, in the NFL sights and sounds in the

2195
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. The uh like, right at the end

2196
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 1: of the game, Um, what do you call it? Pat

2197
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes goes over to Joe Burrow and says, all right, man,

2198
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: go win it. And Joe just like as he's walking

2199
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: away just sort of tipped his cap to him. But

2200
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 1: even before that, when they were down twenty one to thirteen,

2201
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 1: he had his guys in the huddle and he's he said, Um,

2202
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 1: when we score this touchdown, we're going for two. So

2203
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: like that's you know, that sort of attitude. I can't Yeah,

2204
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: I can't say for sure, but I think Max sort

2205
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,560
Speaker 1: of has that sort of like cock sure and a

2206
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: little maybe a little bit cocky and confident attitude. We'll see,

2207
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: you could see it. You could see it play out

2208
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: because his teammates, like Burrow, like all of his teammates

2209
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 1: love them, not just his offensive guys, but like all

2210
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 1: the defensive guys love them. Yeah. I also think that

2211
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: that might be a little part for the chorus. When

2212
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 1: you're in a drive like that, when you're down, you're

2213
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: trying to prepare, there's not much time left in the game.

2214
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 1: You want to make sure everybody's on the same page. Okay,

2215
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,719
Speaker 1: so when we do this is what's going to happen,

2216
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 1: So that you because you don't any time, you don't

2217
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: want to waste a time out right, you're losing and

2218
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: you have to play. I think that's there's a little

2219
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 1: bit to that. That part of that is prep. Yeah,

2220
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 1: that's that's good. That's a celebration. What are we doing

2221
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: bowling your pins? I'm ball? You know right now? That

2222
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,719
Speaker 1: would do Now, that would concern me if you heard

2223
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: some of that on the NFL film celebration were doing. Though,

2224
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 1: Let's do the one that bothers Fred the most, and

2225
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: then we'll take a picture. You pretend like you got

2226
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 1: a kayak. You're a kayak guy, right, I'd like imagine

2227
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 1: them choreographing this curse guy from the Patriots. He doesn't

2228
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 1: like those, So let's do it. You do you don't.

2229
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,759
Speaker 1: You don't see the difference between like, hey, if we score,

2230
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,719
Speaker 1: he said, when we score, were I think that's football.

2231
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: I think if you don't think you're gonna score every

2232
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 1: time you're on the field, you're in the wrong profession.

2233
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Fair enough. I liked it, though, like I I like

2234
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 1: I like him, I like him a lot, and I

2235
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: do think Mac has I think Mac has confidence. Yeah,

2236
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he lacks confidence. I don't think that's

2237
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 1: a problem. All right, thanks Patty, appreciate it. Um let's

2238
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: see lots of emails, but running out of time. I

2239
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: like in general, I just don't love him the way

2240
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: some do. I'm with you, really, since when you used

2241
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: to love them forever, you used to hard, you used

2242
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,919
Speaker 1: to sash thinking about my heart, mat Am. I convinced

2243
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 1: that he is on his way to being a top

2244
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: five to seven quarterback in league. I'm not. I'm not

2245
01:54:55,760 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: convinced that's my quarterback. Let's go. Yeah, let's easy to

2246
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: say when you when you don't have an option, I

2247
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: don't think here's my quarterback too well, No, but like

2248
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: you could say, we're moving on, you know one year,

2249
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: you know he's my quarterback, let's go, And you can't

2250
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 1: move on until you have an option. That's better. Yeah,

2251
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 1: but I'd like to see I'd like to see some

2252
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 1: more juice next year. I want to see. I want

2253
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: to see something. I think I think it would help

2254
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be looking over his shoulder.

2255
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: He's not going to be a rookie. He has a

2256
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: year of experience, he's gonna have a full offseason, he'll

2257
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: be all of those will help, you know, that's all.

2258
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 1: That's all what I wrote today, that was I mean,

2259
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: this is what's been on my brain. So that's you know,

2260
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 1: especially in this team, I just can't imagine, like, you know,

2261
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: how like stressful it is to be on on this

2262
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 1: team because everything is just so exact. And I'm not

2263
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 1: just talking about on the field. I'm talking about during

2264
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: the week, you know, And maybe that's a problem. It

2265
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,879
Speaker 1: could be. It's not for everybody. It's not for everybody,

2266
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: but I think it might be for everybody when Brady's

2267
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 1: running the show, you know. I mean, I think the

2268
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 1: difference in Mac at the Pro Bowl versus what we

2269
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 1: kind of saw this year was, you know, it was

2270
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: a little bit striking. And I mean I think that

2271
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: that gritty dance and taking it, you know, with the

2272
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 1: hell just running with it. I mean, I think that

2273
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: shows a little bit more personally. I hope we get

2274
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: to see more of that next year. I hope he's

2275
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable in his skin and his

2276
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 1: role do the gritty and stuff every practice and stuff

2277
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: and stuff. Ken says back to Andrew's call about Brady's

2278
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,839
Speaker 1: leverage and all that he says. I agree with the caller, Andrew.

2279
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I think Brady might wait until the season starts and

2280
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: fill in if a contender gets an injury. Oh, I agree.

2281
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: So what would the Bucks do if it's Week five,

2282
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: they have a new quarterback and an AFC elite quarterback

2283
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 1: gets injured. I think the Bucks would take a fourth

2284
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: rounder to release the rights to Brady. That's all. I

2285
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: have no idea what him. I don't think they would

2286
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 1: trade him for just that. But I agree with you.

2287
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 1: That's that's a scenario that I could see Brady coming

2288
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 1: back in. Yep. Yeah, I'm with you, and I'm with

2289
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: Andrew too. I was, you know, like, I get it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a hard thing. I personally would say, you're

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Speaker 1: playing for me or nobody, because what are the odds

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Speaker 1: that Tampa is making that move that quarterback? So now

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Speaker 1: this is twice in four years, three years, they're getting

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Speaker 1: the marquee quarterback on the market, right, like more often,

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Speaker 1: more likely is they're getting like Jameis Winston back. It's

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Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, Matt Ryan's like, hey look

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Speaker 1: at me, and the only quarterback, last quarterback in the division.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, is any part of you think that

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Speaker 1: Brady just said what he said in part just to

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Speaker 1: stay relevant. Yeah, like that he just wants to be

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Speaker 1: like included in any of these conversations. I mean we

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Speaker 1: all said that's why Gronk was doing it, you know,

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Speaker 1: leading people on it. Yeah. I mean you could make

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Speaker 1: the same argument Gronk was doing it to sell products. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but and maybe act right, he's just why I said, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could make the same argument. It's a tough transition,

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Speaker 1: I think for guys, especially someone like him, who has

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Speaker 1: been doing this and has been regimented and now he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be kind of spinning without this a cranky little

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Speaker 1: beach in like two months. Sure. Well, but I could

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Speaker 1: also see liked l if he if he really believes

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Speaker 1: in his TB twelve empire and goes into the business

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Speaker 1: world and says, you know what, my goal is to

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Speaker 1: take over this aspect of the sports therapy or lifestyle

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Speaker 1: market path leisure out. Yeah, like five to ten years

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Speaker 1: from now, we're going to be considered the best in

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Speaker 1: the world. Like, I could see him being like psychotically

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Speaker 1: obsessed with doing that, and like he's got a new

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Speaker 1: passion coming for you, Lululemon. There's more than one thing

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Speaker 1: in the world that you can like and be good

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Speaker 1: at and and want to go after. My name is Tom.

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Speaker 1: Like it's so competitive, Like maybe he gets into that

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Speaker 1: and decides, Okay, I can I can get into this

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Speaker 1: and be really ultra competitive in that. He could. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe he'll just become a fan of a team and

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Speaker 1: get super invested in it like me. Well, I heard,

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Speaker 1: and now we're up against it. But I heard, like

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Speaker 1: you know, he wants you know, like there's rumors of

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Speaker 1: him wanting to be an owner in the league. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's from him or just someone

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Speaker 1: speculating him and Peyton should go joint joint venture, Like

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Speaker 1: Peyton could get out and do all the talking and

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Speaker 1: day be entertaining that Tom's not and Tom could be

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Speaker 1: the closer behind the scenes. I's been a little looser

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Speaker 1: these last couple of years doing commercials and stuff. He's

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Speaker 1: just not good at him subway, But I'm Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: be an expansion team, maybe the Omaha something. All Right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with another see what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the Patriots coaching staff and who's coming, who's going.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it then. Thank you for downloading this podcast.

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