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Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple

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Speaker 2: What was the skit the Giants were putting together? Oh,

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Speaker 2: almost going to get you, almost going to get you,

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Speaker 2: almost going to get you, almost going to get your Oh,

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Speaker 2: I was going to get Joe, almost going to get

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's almost gonna get you. I

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Speaker 3: mean that was an epic collapse. Your defense gives up

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Speaker 3: thirty three points in the fourth quarter, the most in

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Speaker 3: NFL history ever. I mean, this is what's cool about

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Speaker 3: a game like that is we have all those microphones

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Speaker 3: and like all this different sound that we're gonna get,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know if it's a year from now

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Speaker 3: or ten years from now, would be like, hey, remember

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Speaker 3: that time the Giants absolutely collapsed and gave up thirty

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Speaker 3: three points, like nineteen nothing gave up thirty three in

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Speaker 4: I watching it happen, I'm looking at going, all right,

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Speaker 4: twenty six, sixteen, okay, had they get sixteen? And then

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Speaker 4: it was just they got the next one and Denver

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Speaker 4: takes the lead. And what makes it even worse is

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Speaker 4: that the Giants still somehow Someway figured out how to

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Speaker 4: get the lead back after that missed the extra point,

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Speaker 4: and then you knew it was just only a matter

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Speaker 4: of time they were going to give it up.

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Speaker 2: Like you just knew. You watched it, like.

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Speaker 4: They literally gave away that game twice in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: and not like hey, chipping away in the third quarter

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Speaker 4: and then you get to the fourth quarter, you get No,

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Speaker 4: it was in the fourth quarter with not that much

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Speaker 4: time left and they completely melted down. That's a bad loss, man,

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Speaker 4: It's a really, really bad Not that they were going

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Speaker 4: to be a playoff team or anything, but it went

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Speaker 4: from man, huge statement win, go on the road, beat

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Speaker 4: the Broncos. You got a rookie quarterback, you got Camskataboo.

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Speaker 4: There's like feel good vine, they look good. I know

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Speaker 4: it's not a good I'm with you on it can't

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Speaker 4: be considered a good loss. Like I get that, I

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Speaker 4: get that, the collapses epic, I get all of that.

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Speaker 2: But they were playing their asses off for three quarters, man,

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Speaker 2: and they looked good for three quarters. It was impressive

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Speaker 2: for three quarters. And for three quarters you sat there

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Speaker 2: and you said, dang, like they were on a run.

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Speaker 2: And what I will say is, even though there isn't

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Speaker 2: a such thing as a great loss or good loss,

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Speaker 2: I will say that this is a different New York

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Speaker 2: Giants team that we're watching play. It's not the one

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Speaker 2: where we sat there and we said it is day

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Speaker 2: Ball going to be able to keep his job. I

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Speaker 2: don't think you walk away from that game saying that

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Speaker 2: he's not adequate enough to beat you think so.

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Speaker 3: I think there's people who are very, very frustrated Giants

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Speaker 3: fans because they're thinking to their selves, if this was

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Speaker 3: our coach, we don't give.

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Speaker 5: Up thirty three points in the fourth quarter, we somehow

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Speaker 5: win God dang.

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Speaker 2: But if it's not your coach, you're not up about

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Speaker 2: that many to begin with. I know it was an

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Speaker 2: epic collapse. I get it. I get it was a collapse,

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Speaker 2: but this is not. First of all, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been able to put that many points up before, not

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Speaker 2: too long ago, not too long ago, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been they made that way.

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Speaker 5: That's because of Jackson Darton.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I mean I don't think that they

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson I'm gonna say it.

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Speaker 3: But that's the thing is they're not talking about They're

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Speaker 3: not talking about the coach the time, about the player.

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson's not even in the vicinity of playing. All

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, I can't get out of their line.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is this is a different team. It

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Speaker 2: was a different team. They were almost on the three

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Speaker 2: game winning streak. It came to an end and in

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Speaker 2: a horrible manner. But that horrible manner wasn't They were

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Speaker 2: down thirty three the whole entire game and then went

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Speaker 2: down thirty three more. They were up, they gave it up.

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Speaker 2: I get it, but they were up by a lot

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Speaker 2: and they collapsed. It is what it is. I feel

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Speaker 2: like that's correct, correctible. What it is that one is?

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Speaker 2: That one is? I mean, you give us thirty three points.

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Speaker 2: That's an outlier to give up thirty three points in

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Speaker 2: any given quarter of a game in NFA, How it's.

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Speaker 5: Ever happened before.

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Speaker 3: It's like usually you don't survive this, right, Like that

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins and gave up however many points to Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: They fired I think the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: Like I, I, yeah, I don't know about you. How

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Speaker 2: do you overcome that though?

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Speaker 4: Like, have you guys been a part of a game

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Speaker 4: where you gave up a lead like that kind of

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Speaker 4: anywhere close to that kind of lead, because.

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Speaker 2: I was a part of a game where we came back,

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Speaker 2: but not that big of a deficit.

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Speaker 3: Let me put it this way, like Damn Quinn and

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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons, and I remember calling a game it's

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Speaker 3: probably a year or two after they had the twenty

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Speaker 3: eighty three collapse in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: And they did all these things to move on from.

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Speaker 3: It, and I was like, I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: think if you're being real, you don't try to move

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Speaker 3: on from it. You literally have to just recognize what

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Speaker 3: it is, bring in some sort of psychologists toward counselor

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Speaker 3: and just say, look, we blew arguably the biggest lead

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Speaker 5: We made a mistake.

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Speaker 3: However you want to describe it, Like, instead of just

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Speaker 3: not talking about it or trying to avoid it or

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Speaker 3: saying that we're past it so many times to convince

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Speaker 3: yourself you are, instead of going that route, just be like, no, actually,

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Speaker 3: we were going to be motivated every single hour of

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Speaker 3: every day of the rest of our lives as NFL

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Speaker 3: players and coaches, because we had the worst collapse in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl anyone's ever seen, and it's gonna motivate

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Speaker 5: Having a lot of finger pointing in the front office.

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Speaker 3: And then it eventually, you know, Kyle Shanahan becomes the

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Speaker 3: of plays quite up to the level he did it

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Speaker 5: That's just how it ended up working out.

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Speaker 3: And obviously dan Quinn's doing his thing with with Washington now,

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Speaker 3: but you know those moments, I don't I don't feel

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Speaker 3: like you move on from like I think if you're

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Speaker 3: remind myself that we give up thirty three points in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter if I found part of that defense,

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Speaker 3: and like, that's that's part of our identity and until

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Speaker 3: we rectify it, every single Giants fan is gonna be

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Speaker 3: like oh we're up, We're up three scores in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, suite. I mean, we could always just give

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Speaker 3: up thirty three points and lose this game, because every

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Speaker 5: Is gonna think it.

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Speaker 3: It's part of your identity now, So like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's just like an outlier, like that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just give up thirty three point thirty three points,

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Speaker 2: and I just don't. I don't see that happening. I

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Speaker 2: don't see that no quarter, I get that part. I

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Speaker 2: don't see it happening again.

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Speaker 5: We're really gonna do this.

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Speaker 2: It's really not going to happen again. I know it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna happen. It's more likely to me, in my estimation,

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Speaker 2: it's it's more likely for Philly to win a game,

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Speaker 2: or a team to win a game the way that

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Speaker 2: they did with that block field goal, picked up scoop

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Speaker 4: But once is enough, Once is enough. You don't need

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Speaker 4: it to happen again. You do say demoralizing lost, because yeah,

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Speaker 4: you mentioned for three quarters, if you can go on

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Speaker 4: Denver against a team that's that a lot of people

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Speaker 4: think is the goods and going to be a playoff team. Look,

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Speaker 4: the conference station surrounding, the direction of the organization is

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Speaker 4: completely different. Now you're looking around going what the.

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Speaker 2: F was that? You can say they took their foot

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Speaker 5: Actually they didn't. I mean they still scored points.

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Speaker 2: They did thirteen fourteen, I don't know, but they did.

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Speaker 2: There's no other way to explain giving up it at large.

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Speaker 3: Two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. You're gonna say they

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Speaker 3: took their foot off the gas. Yes, this is a

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Speaker 3: this is a defensive collapse. This isn't the offense Like

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Speaker 3: dart through a terrible pick that was part of it,

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Speaker 3: if your offense is scoring a couple of touchdowns per quarter,

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Speaker 3: that's like way more than.

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Speaker 2: The league offense. The nerve of you, if your offense

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Speaker 6: Are you're the only person in the ball the offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm more the way, not the offense. Damn pot, go

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Speaker 6: get a penalty flag. Yet do what you always do,

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Speaker 6: get bailed out bout of revs. They did, actually did,

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Speaker 2: Sean King got fifteen yards like they It was there

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Speaker 2: like ever, this.

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Speaker 5: Was a defensive collapse.

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Speaker 2: V want to say, it's okay, you can't lose this

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Speaker 2: any other way acause you can't give up a lead

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Speaker 2: like that and it not be a team A team deal,

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Speaker 2: a team deal. It's not one side of the bare

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Speaker 2: probably could have ran more time off the clock on

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Speaker 2: the touchdown that put him back up to thirty two

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Speaker 2: or whatever it was like on the dirt. You never

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Speaker 2: reason why thirty three points of a deficit was a

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Speaker 2: race thirty two. You'll never You'll know, you'll never take

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Speaker 2: I've never never. You'll never convince me that that was

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Speaker 2: not a team effort. Sorry, you won't. What maybe one

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Speaker 2: side of the ball played a little bit more, okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean they have a little bit more to blame,

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Speaker 2: all right, but but you need to tell me so

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Speaker 2: at no point in time.

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Speaker 3: So at no point in time out of the one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 3: five possessions the Broncos had in the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 3: no point, you can just get one stop. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's ultimately what they needed because their offense again scored

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Speaker 3: a couple of touchdowns like they did their part, and

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Speaker 3: no point of the five drives the Broncos had scoring

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Speaker 3: touchdowns of four of them, could get a field goal

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Speaker 3: on the fifth. Are you serious like they couldn't even

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Speaker 3: stop a couple like a two point conversion.

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Speaker 2: In there somewhere? I am did serious team effort. Team effort.

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Speaker 2: It takes to lose that big of a deficit. It

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Speaker 2: takes every scene some way, somehow, even special teams had

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Speaker 2: something to do with it. All three phases of the

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Speaker 2: game had something to do with this two extra points.

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Speaker 2: All three phases of the game had something to do

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Speaker 4: I mean, Coop, who is producing today, mister Bronco fan?

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Speaker 4: And were did you booze up while you were watching

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Speaker 4: that game? Were you about to Coop? Because you texted

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Speaker 4: me that you were stressed out? I think I lost

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Speaker 4: like ten years off my life watching that game.

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Speaker 3: Now, Coop, would would you say it was a defensive

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Speaker 5: Like, well, how do you say this?

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Speaker 2: I would say it was mile high magic?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, Now I know you're high, all right?

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Speaker 4: I heard that that was all bow And if I'm high,

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Speaker 4: it's it's I'm high off of bocaine.

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Speaker 2: Okay? Oh is that a thing they they roll with that?

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Speaker 2: All right, snort some bocane, that's right. Yeah, why do

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Speaker 2: you have to snort it? Why couldn't you smoke it? Yes?

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Speaker 2: You could? You know if you wanted to, which one

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Speaker 2: Snort or smoke?

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Speaker 1: Damn?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think if you.

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Speaker 7: I think he's smoking, then it's then it's more like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Lorena always jumps in on them moments. I

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Speaker 2: so funny. How many and windows you guys drop? I

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Speaker 5: I mean you could also not jump in on it,

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Speaker 2: Know what, because she jumped all the way into that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you're putting us an awkward spot. How

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Speaker 2: That was a comeback from behind? Wait, hold on, it's

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Speaker 2: not me all right, Yeah, that's brutal.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean I think that that's I can

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Speaker 2: settle in on agreeing with that. That's a brutal loss.

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Speaker 2: That is a hell of a plane ride back home

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Speaker 5: Oh man, team loss.

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Speaker 2: But I will say this. I will say this, if

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I wish. I wish Brady Quinn will I wish

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Speaker 8: he would walk up on the second, the second blow.

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Speaker 8: I didn't like cas laughing after we lost. I ain't

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Speaker 3: This is one of those moments where I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe LeVar and the defense he didn't look in the mirror.

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Speaker 3: But if you don't stand up in front of the

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Speaker 5: It wasn't one of those. It was a collapse, that's

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Speaker 4: And by the way, if I'm not mistaken, the only

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Speaker 2: So like this is.

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Speaker 7: Historic, you know, y'all be on, y'all al like acting

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Speaker 9: No point you have to look yourself in the mirror.

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Speaker 9: And you know that was the most pathetic two thousand

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Speaker 2: And serves if your memory serves you correct, get that

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Speaker 4: Know, if my ears served me correctly, because I heard

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Speaker 2: Needs AI when you got Steve Sager? I mean, when

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Speaker 5: Hard to find his fingers.

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Speaker 2: The article his finger tell you historic.

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Speaker 5: Historic, defensive class and by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, fingers are historic crowd quick, defensive collapse. And I

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Speaker 2: don't like your your your voice in my ear with

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Speaker 4: And by the way, you know, you're the Giants next

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Speaker 2: To chew their ass up and spit them out.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations to the Cleveland Browns. Big win for the Brownies.

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Speaker 4: And the other side of that story is the Miami

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Speaker 4: Dolphins are a bucket of puke. Mike McDaniel, their head coach,

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Speaker 11: Three losses in this league in a row are always tickets.

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Speaker 5: Toll you.

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Speaker 11: You honestly get to see across the board. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 11: that need need to do our jobs better.

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Speaker 5: Tape never lies.

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Speaker 11: Find it very offensive to all parties involved. If I'm

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Speaker 2: And I'll probably be coaching like another hour, dang two hours. Uh,

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Speaker 4: It feels like him and Tua both lost the locker room.

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Speaker 4: And I just don't see how this gets better. I

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Speaker 2: Well, I know, I knew it got like kind of bad.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't know losing to Cleveland like that was

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Speaker 2: Why why are they struggling so bad? Like, have we

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Speaker 3: A good offensive line defensively have struggled, I don't know

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Speaker 2: It just I thought this was a team that was

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Speaker 5: They'd be competitive in the FCO.

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Speaker 2: I thought they would be. I told you, guys, I

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Speaker 4: They're bad. They're worse than that, you know what. I

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Speaker 2: See? They're worse than beat right now? To me, Like

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Speaker 3: Like the Jets and the fact that Aaron Glenn scoffed

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there's a worse disaster than the

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Speaker 5: Up front, the line. But this has been way worse

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Speaker 2: Well, I bet on the Jets this weekend. I'm ashamed

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Speaker 4: I actually thought the Jets, if they were gonna get one,

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Speaker 4: and they're so bad. I don't know what I was thinking.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I find it hard to see better than

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Speaker 2: It's terrible, man, that's hit.

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Speaker 12: The chests are done.

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Speaker 2: They're terrible.

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Speaker 3: So mind you, I can't get over how well the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers defense though, bet who's coached by Robert Slibeway.

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Speaker 3: How good they're playing without two of their stars. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there there a job to evaluate talent, find

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Speaker 3: guys who can play in that system and who you know,

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Speaker 3: can ultimately succeed or at least execute that game plan.

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Speaker 3: And the job he comes up with scheming teams is incredible.

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Speaker 3: And the Falcons were one of the more prolific offenses

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, and completely steimied them last night. No

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Speaker 3: Nick Bosa, no Fred Warner, no problem, Like I just

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Speaker 3: I don't know too many people. Too many people rode off,

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Speaker 3: you know, solid, which again a really good guy, like

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Speaker 3: felt like he just between Rogers getting their Terran's achilles,

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Speaker 3: and then the next year just no patience went with

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Speaker 3: any of it.

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Speaker 5: Just wild. It's wild, man.

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Speaker 2: There's some really crappy teams out here, man, and I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you that.

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Speaker 4: And LeVar picked the Jets to win the division. Unbelievable,

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Speaker 4: that's right.

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Speaker 5: Be sure to.

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Speaker 1: Catch live editions of two Pros and a Cup of

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Speaker 4: We welcome in the one and only Pete Prisco, senior

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Speaker 4: NFL columnists for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analysts. You

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Speaker 4: can get them on X if you want some of

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Speaker 4: that smoke at Prisco CBS PEA.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 12: What's going on, guy? How are you?

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Speaker 4: We're good? I wanted to start you off with a

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Speaker 4: softball here if you don't mind. Worst team in the

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Speaker 4: NFL is who.

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Speaker 12: The Jets. I don't think you will. I mean, look,

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Speaker 12: they're awful and it's not just the offense, but like

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Speaker 12: defentively they've been a little bit better, but they leave

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Speaker 12: the league in mistackles. I mean, that's for an Aaron

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Speaker 12: Glenn team. Give me a break. And then you got

482
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Speaker 12: a quarterback situation that's a mess. Doesn't matter who plays,

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Speaker 12: they both are bad. You know, they didn't protect the

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Speaker 12: quarterback in the last two weeks, and they don't have

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Speaker 12: Garret Wilson's on the game. They don't have one receiver

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Speaker 12: who scares you one bit, and so you look at it,

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Speaker 12: it's just a mess, and they got a lot of

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Speaker 12: work to do. And look, is it possible they go

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Speaker 12: one and done with the head coach? It's possible. I

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Speaker 12: don't think you do that. I don't think you should

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Speaker 12: do that, but it's certainly looking like it's possible.

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Speaker 5: Dang jeez, Pete. I mean the Titans aren't in that

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Speaker 5: conversation too.

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Speaker 12: Well. I mean they got Will Levis two point zero

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Speaker 12: playing quarterback for him, so maybe they Is that a.

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Speaker 5: Good thing or a bad thing? Because you're a big

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Speaker 5: Will Levis fan.

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Speaker 12: No, Look, I just like to say that though, And

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Speaker 12: I work with ran cars on every Sunday, and I

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Speaker 12: sit there and you tell them and the same thing is.

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Speaker 12: The bottom line is Will Levis was just ripped the

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Speaker 12: shreds last year for a lot of things he did,

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Speaker 12: and rightfully so. But this guy's numbers are just a

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Speaker 12: worse Dan Ward has been worse. And it's you know,

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Speaker 12: everybody always goes, well, what does he have? Well? What

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Speaker 12: did will Loves have? He didn't have anything either. And

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Speaker 12: so if I'm Tennessee and I drafted that guy first overall,

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Speaker 12: and granted and fairness.

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Speaker 3: To him, he is a rookie, I mean that wasn't

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Speaker 3: Will Levis's rookie season last.

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Speaker 12: Year, Okay, but you want to put will Levis's rookie

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Speaker 12: season on there, he was pretty darn good. I mean,

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Speaker 12: you know his numbers were better.

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Speaker 3: So so you're basically saying that that they should be

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Speaker 3: playing Will Levis, like you weren't wrong.

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Speaker 12: No, I'm saying it's a bad it's a bad situation

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Speaker 12: for whoever plays quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And there you go.

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Speaker 12: And so I think that's that's why we rushed, like

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Speaker 12: you always say, Brady, we rushed the judgments on these

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Speaker 12: quarterbacks and the situation matters, and that situation bad. It's bad.

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Speaker 12: It's a bad situation, but not worse than the New

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Speaker 12: York Jets. No, at least Kim gives the organization some hope.

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Speaker 12: Does justin Fields or tyrod Tewler give you hope? No,

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Speaker 12: And I think the Jets were looking at it. Here

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Speaker 12: he's the Jets, and you look across and you see

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Speaker 12: the same you play the same stadium, and you see

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Speaker 12: the Jackson Dart doing what he's doing for the Jets.

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Speaker 12: For the Giants. Now, he's not great, but he's giving

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Speaker 12: him light and giving him some energy. Are you glad

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Speaker 12: you drafted Membo when you did instead of taking a

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Speaker 12: quarterback because they went into the season Brady thinking maybe,

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Speaker 12: oh well, next year's quarterback class is going to be great,

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Speaker 12: is it? Is it great right now?

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Speaker 5: I don't think right now? No, you're right not looking

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Speaker 5: as good right now?

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Speaker 2: Thikes. I'll tell you who is looking good. Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: is looking good. How you feel about this Colts team

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Speaker 2: right now? Pete, is it fools gold or are they

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Speaker 2: for real?

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Speaker 12: I think it's for real, and I didn't believe that

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Speaker 12: until yesterday. I was one of those cynics doubters. Look

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Speaker 12: at their schedule and yeah, the Chargers are banged up,

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Speaker 12: but when you go out there and handle them the

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Speaker 12: way they do in your average and thirty three points

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Speaker 12: a game, they're for real. And Daniel Jones is playing

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Speaker 12: really good football. But Jonathan Taylor is playing great football.

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Speaker 12: And the offensive line has been fantastic by the way.

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Speaker 12: You know, they let two guys walking free agency, Kelly

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Speaker 12: and Freeze, two veterans, and they put Bordolini and Conclaves

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Speaker 12: in there, and they've been better. The line's been better.

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Speaker 12: And when you have a good line is you find

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Speaker 12: out around this league like the Eagles are finding out,

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Speaker 12: you know that what it was like to have the

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Speaker 12: great line and difference between having an okay line. If

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Speaker 12: you have a good offensive line, you're gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 12: You're gonna take the pressure off of the quarterback and

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Speaker 12: the quarterback can stand back there and make throws. And

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Speaker 12: Stikeen's done a great job of getting the ball down

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Speaker 12: the field the playmaker's hands. Your Penn State tight end

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Speaker 12: has been fantastic. Rookie Warren, you've been great.

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Speaker 2: The best, right, Yeah, like almost like rookie of the

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Speaker 2: Year type action.

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Speaker 12: He's been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, there's something positive about Penn State this year,

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Speaker 2: you know, and.

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Speaker 5: Be something better than a Mecca Buca. What's that he's bro,

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Speaker 5: He's better than a mecha.

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Speaker 2: He's having some serious impact.

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Speaker 12: Look, it's going to be a tight race. But but

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Speaker 12: he's definitely in the conversation. But I love what stiking

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Speaker 12: right now. Would be coach of the Year in the NFL.

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Speaker 12: I don't think there's any doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: M all right, Pete, Oh go ahead, No, I was

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Speaker 3: just gonna ask him, how would you describe what happened

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Speaker 3: in the Giants Broncos game? Would that be a defensive

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Speaker 3: collapse or would you say it's a team loss there

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Speaker 3: for the Giants.

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Speaker 12: That's a collapse. That's a choke. That's like sticking your

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Speaker 12: finger in your throat and yeaggging that's what that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. But but who are you put it on? You

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Speaker 5: put on the entire team or the defense, Pete.

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Speaker 12: The entire team. I put it on the entire team.

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Speaker 5: I mean the right would give Give that point to LeVar?

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Speaker 5: Give it to LeVar.

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Speaker 2: That's all right, cue, Yeah, I got you know, make

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Speaker 2: your point. Go ahead, make your point.

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Speaker 12: Pete's point, because I'll see if I might agree with him.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just saying already you just did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you just did. We do this sometimes with you

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Speaker 5: on the show. We just don't tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Well, so the quarterbacks interception was horrible on third down.

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Speaker 12: You can't do that, you know that in that situation,

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Speaker 12: that game of life that gave him hope. They scored

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Speaker 12: thirty three points in the fourth quarter. I mean that

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Speaker 12: give me a break.

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Speaker 5: And so that's where we felt like it was more

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Speaker 5: of a defensive letdown a little bit.

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Speaker 12: You know what did you say?

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Speaker 5: That's why I said it was more of a defensive letdown.

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Speaker 12: So it's a combination of all of them. When you

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Speaker 12: give up an interception like that, Brady, that's terrible. But

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Speaker 12: here's the others. But you know what, at the end,

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Speaker 12: it was a defensive letdown because they went down and

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Speaker 12: got the go ahead points on a drive that if

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Speaker 12: you were if they would have won that game on

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Speaker 12: that drive, it would have talked it up to game

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Speaker 12: winning drive for Jackson Dart. He now has x amount

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Speaker 12: of game winning drives. He threw one pass that was

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Speaker 12: completed for about fifteen yards, then got a personal found

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Speaker 12: for rough of the pass on that on that drive,

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Speaker 12: then got a what forty five yard pass interference penalty

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Speaker 12: on the drive, and then they scored the touchdown game

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Speaker 12: winning drive for Jackson Dart did one the game, give

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Speaker 12: me your parade. So and Sean Payton, by the way,

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Speaker 12: he got one of the one of the great penalties

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Speaker 12: of all time because it was a half an inch

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Speaker 12: or a yard whatever it was. Remember when he came

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Speaker 12: out on the field complaining about the pay it was yeah.

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Speaker 12: And so then you let the defense did let him

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Speaker 12: down in that scenario because you got to can't allow

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Speaker 12: them to go down and get that field goal. So

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Speaker 12: it's a combination of both the interception, the collapse of

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Speaker 12: the defense, and you know, just some dumb things that

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Speaker 12: they did in that game. And Denver wasn't great either,

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Speaker 12: by the way, but bo Nicks in the first half

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Speaker 12: through for eighty nine yards and was awful. And then

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Speaker 12: somehow in the fourth quarter it came alive. I don't understand.

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Speaker 12: It's the third game. He's done that, Pete.

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Speaker 4: Do you think if Russell Wilson was starting for the

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Speaker 4: Giants that would have won that game?

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Speaker 12: Hell? No, he would have thrown three picks by halftime

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Speaker 12: and they would have been buried. No, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 12: I mean, and did you see when Jackson dark hurt

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Speaker 12: his ankle and Russell Wilson got up and started warming up,

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Speaker 12: and every everybody like went over there, get up, get up,

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Speaker 12: Get up, Jackson, get up. But I have that guy

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Speaker 12: go back in there anymore.

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Speaker 5: He's done amb Pete.

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Speaker 2: What about Pittsburgh? They just took an al But how

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Speaker 2: are you How are you looking at Aaron Rodgers? How

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Speaker 2: are you looking at them? Are they fools gold or

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Speaker 2: are they? Are they legitimate contenders out of the AFC?

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Speaker 12: I didn't think they were fools Gold until the other

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Speaker 12: day when that defense was horrible and you had a

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Speaker 12: team in the Bengals who went into that game had

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Speaker 12: not rushed one rushing play over thirteen yards on the

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Speaker 12: entire season and went in and ran it on them,

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Speaker 12: g just gaping holes. Then you look at the passing defense.

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Speaker 12: Oh my god, Dalen Ramsey looked terrible the other night.

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Speaker 12: So you look at that secondary Darius Slay, Dalen Ramsey, old,

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Speaker 12: Chuck Clark. I mean, it's old and they played old

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Speaker 12: and that's a problem, and so it it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 12: They played Green Bay this week. It'll be interesting to

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Speaker 12: see if Mike Tomlin can get them to bounce back.

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Speaker 12: By the way, they don't do a lot of things

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Speaker 12: on defense. You know in an era when you got

660
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 12: teams doing creative stuff on the back end. They're not

661
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 12: nearly as creative as some of the other teams. And

662
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 12: so I think they have a problem on defense the age,

663
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 12: combination with the fact that they're pretty predictable. You saw

664
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 12: what Jay said. They said they knew what they were doing.

665
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 12: Everybody knows what they're doing. They're the Steelers. They do

666
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 12: the same thing, and so that's a problem. And by

667
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 12: the way, PJ. Watt is not a kid. Cam Hayward's

668
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 12: not a kid. They got they have age issues on

669
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 12: that defense.

670
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: Gotta love Pete Prisco using agism as a way of

671
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: uh comments against the Steelers.

672
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Speaker 12: Brady Brady.

673
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: By the way, why how old.

674
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 12: Are you right now? How old are you right now?

675
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 5: I'll be forty one here surely?

676
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 12: Okay, so you're eighty two. So you got me about

677
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 12: you got me. Don't worry about it because you're double

678
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 12: the years when you play football.

679
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: Pete, if you don't mind, I would like to I

680
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 3: don't know if this is the best way of doing this,

681
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: but I'd like to read through a text conversation that

682
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: you know was maybe had at some point between you

683
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: and I Saturday night, because as most would would you know.

684
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: I don't know sure if they realize this or not,

685
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: but you are an Arizona State Sun Devil and you've

686
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: got a love hate relationship with your school.

687
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 5: And we won't get into the details of why that is.

688
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: But I happen to reach out to you because Arizona

689
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: State is playing a top ten team in Texas Tech.

690
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 3: They look to be the best team in the Big twelve,

691
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: albeit without their starting quarterback, still good football team. And

692
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: I just happened to text you your boys are hanging tough.

693
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: And then you reply, just went forward on fourth and

694
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: two in his own end like an idiot, And I said, oh,

695
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: I'm behind because I was traveling at this point. Just

696
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: gave them life. Please tell me he's going to Pennsas State.

697
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: Then you you got a spiral into this. You want

698
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: your coach gone. And then at the end of the

699
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: text conversation you text me that guy can flat out coach?

700
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 3: Can you talk me through your emotions? Turned the Ears

701
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: on a state win over Texas to well.

702
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 12: I was sitting watching the game with my wife and

703
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 12: we were having a few uh cocktails, and so I

704
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 12: was getting worked up a little bit because I was

705
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 12: he I think Kenny Dillingham's done a great job building

706
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 12: the program, but I think he lacks he lacks some

707
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 12: decision making on game day. And I've said it before

708
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 12: to you, Brady, I don't.

709
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: Have you.

710
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 12: Don't back down, No, I I no believe that. Why

711
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 12: would you go forward to fourth to two in your

712
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 12: own end? It made no sense. It was a dumb decision,

713
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 12: and it nearly cost him the game. But having said that,

714
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 12: I think he's a great program builder and what he's

715
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 12: done there has been fantastic. So maybe, you know, allow

716
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 12: somebody else to influence his game time decisions a little

717
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 12: bit and they'll be fine, because I go back, I

718
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 12: go back across the landscape me Yu at the end

719
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 12: of that game, what his game time decisions almost it

720
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 12: was it was a travesty. If you could, if you

721
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 12: could do what not to do at the end of

722
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 12: the game against by U last year, it would nearly

723
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 12: cost him the game. And it was a it was

724
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 12: a how not to that was terrible. Okay. Fourth and

725
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 12: they call time out. They call time out against Texas

726
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 12: last year in the playoffs game, they show zero blitz,

727
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 12: they call time out, They come back out. What they

728
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 12: do they ran zero blitz again, golden up the field

729
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 12: for a touchdown. They lose the game Mississippi State. Late

730
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 12: in the game, zero blitz against the against the wide

731
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 12: receiver who I think runs like track times on the

732
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 12: in the one hundred meters. Lose the game. And then the

733
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 12: other day he did that. So game time decisions bother me.

734
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 12: Program building I love, and I'm happy where they're at.

735
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 12: But if you continue to have bad coaching on game day,

736
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 12: you're going to have problems sustainable success to win big games.

737
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 12: That's all. That's all. That was, like the plaint, it

738
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 12: was fueled by a few did at the bar and

739
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 12: have a few cocktails and then so yeah, it was.

740
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 12: It was a good experience.

741
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: Love it, absolutely love it.

742
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: It was a great guy conversation point huh for for it?

743
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: You basically just say you was faded, Pete, Yeah, you

744
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: was faded. You was faded in Texas? What you drink

745
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: a choice, Pete? During an Arizona steak gam.

746
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 12: Uh, Tito's in Cranberry's what I was drawing?

747
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: Light on the cran or heavy?

748
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, but it depends. It was early in

749
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 12: the days, not early to day. But you know when

750
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 12: you day drinking, you're going heavy on the on the

751
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 12: on the tito.

752
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: You got to go the light, ye, pizza.

753
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: Cocktail guy, not a beer guy.

754
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 12: I'm mixing a beer. No, I'll mixing some light beers here.

755
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 12: You got to change the pace every now.

756
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: And you're a mi ult guy, aren't you.

757
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 12: No, I'm a Miller like guy Miller.

758
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I want to give you Miller light though you.

759
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 12: Look like, how about you, LeVar, what do you? Let's

760
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 12: hear your drinking choice. I can't wait for you.

761
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: I have LeVar Allen's and I have Stic City Wheat

762
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: Citrus Ale. When I have them, that's that's what I do.

763
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 12: Okay, and Brady is a court. Brady're going so I'm

764
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 12: gonna drink the highest and Scott you can find when

765
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 12: I have.

766
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: I drink a bit of everything, drink a bit of

767
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: I will say this of the domestics, I'm not into

768
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: the Nicolaches. I've always called them that ever since Nicholas

769
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: Shan Jessica Simpson had that reality TV show, because you

770
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: would exclusively drink Miller Light. Uh, Bud Light not as

771
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: good as core as light my opinion, you know. And

772
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: Mikeelo Ultras I only do after I work out because

773
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: I feel like that's what their commercials are. It's always

774
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: like people who are like working out or I remember

775
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: when they first came out, they're like running around the

776
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: track and I'm like, yeah, that's the first thing people do.

777
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: They like they go run around the track and go

778
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: run two miles and they're grabbing a michelob Ultras. But

779
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: it worked on me because every time I work out

780
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I want to Michelo Ultra right now,

781
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 3: I'll do agains.

782
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: It just depends. I'm all over the place. I'll do

783
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: whatever what type against you.

784
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 12: Just grab the closest bottle and start drinking.

785
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

786
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: Jonas Jonas is an i p A guy like rolling

787
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: rock too, roll a big rolling rock guy.

788
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, you're you're that guy that goes and gets skilled.

789
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 12: I'll have that pale l that you happened. Yes, it's

790
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 12: bad if I go to If I go to one

791
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 12: of those places and they don't have it like a

792
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 12: middle I'm leaving. Yeah, I'm not drinking. I'm not drinking

793
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 12: your I'm not drinking whatever they call it, the wheat barley,

794
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 12: you know, gimmes, uh mixed brew.

795
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 5: Jonas Jonas is that cypers like, I'll have your local

796
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 5: I p A.

797
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: You got to sample the goods, you know.

798
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, let's see what you.

799
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 12: Got the little the little tray of like little samplers

800
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 12: where you get like five of them more and see.

801
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: Whatever he's working with.

802
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 4: I mean, LeVar is supposed to send us some of

803
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: this that's coming to you.

804
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 12: No, it is, I just had got he promised and

805
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 12: didn't delivered.

806
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you some too. I just got to

807
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: get a few things cleared up.

808
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: I didn't want to ask you before we let you go,

809
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: Just for some further contacts.

810
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: On a tweet you sent yesterday where.

811
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: You wrote, quote, hey coaches, it's okay to take points

812
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: on fourth and seven?

813
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: What was that was?

814
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 12: That was in the morning game when Liam Cohne went

815
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 12: for a fourth and seven instead a kick in a

816
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 12: field goal. And now his twelve year old field goal

817
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 12: kicker had just missed about, you know, fourth grant kick,

818
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 12: and so he's got to start making his kicks. But

819
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 12: it was a point. It would have been a thirty

820
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 12: five yard field goal. You got to get points on this.

821
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 12: You gotta get points. It was twenty one nothing, but

822
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 12: you got to get points. Make it twenty one three.

823
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 12: And he didn't. So he's not alone. And and so

824
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 12: I think these guys they got to they get too

825
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 12: caught up in the emotion of the game. Kick your

826
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 12: damn field goal. Make it twenty one three.

827
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 5: Wow?

828
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: What the great.

829
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports Analysts, sports.

830
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: Coach he is Brady, Yeah, there is why are you

831
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: laughing at him?

832
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 5: I think he's a good coach. I think his names

833
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: I think his name's coming up from other jobs right now.

834
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 12: Hey, yeah, I know, I knew that. That's why I

835
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 12: said said State have them. No, I was just kidding.

836
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: Don't like, don't be getting like, don't be doing that, Pete.

837
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: We don't do like sloppy seconds like that. Man, that's

838
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: not our deal.

839
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: Man.

840
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: You know, we're trying to We're trying to get things right.

841
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 12: You have a guy who out the door, who can't

842
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 12: win three games in a row against fatis damn.

843
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean, challenge yourself a little bit more, Pete. I

844
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: mean that was a low hanging fruit there, bro, Like,

845
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, can you do a little better? You know,

846
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: like you want to kick you? You want to kick

847
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: me while I'm down. I thought we were friends, Pete,

848
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: we are friends.

849
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 12: But you're not. You're not mad at Penn State. You

850
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 12: should be mad.

851
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm certainly not happy. I am not happy. I'm just

852
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: hoping you should defending I will always defend well, I'll

853
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: defend coach Franklin, I'll defend Penn Stated. I'm just a

854
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: defender of my school.

855
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: That's all.

856
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 12: Well, you know, what you can do. You can defend

857
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 12: them when you're watching the playoffs.

858
00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: At least.

859
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: I actually, Pete Quick, let Jeremiah Love, I know you

860
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: hate taking running backs in the first round.

861
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: Is he not a kid you take in the first round?

862
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 12: I would take you about it at the back end.

863
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 12: O Jesus, by the way, Brady, and you're.

864
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: Gonna let Kansas City get him? Is that what's gonna happen?

865
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 12: They actually like the other Notre Dame running back more.

866
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 5: Pick your poison, dude, pick your poison.

867
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: Bout the way. There's lightweight like Brady Quinn palin on

868
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: me as well, like Pete Prisco like assassinates me and

869
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: my school just then, and then Brady jumps on. Oh,

870
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: by the way, while we're talking about it, no talk

871
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: to me about first round draft picks and running backs out.

872
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't the one that Notre Dame like.

873
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: What's what's what's funny is this is a long running

874
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: thing with Pete.

875
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 5: Pete hates when teams draft running backs in the first.

876
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: Round and they running state too, and Tron is still

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Speaker 2: balling out. He is still he's trying to win by himself.

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Speaker 12: Seemingly the dock has gotten way up and he might

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Speaker 12: go ahead of the other guy of Heenn State. So

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Speaker 12: that's interesting to hear that. But yeah, Brady, I have

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Speaker 12: heard the running back the other the backup running back

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Speaker 12: at Notre Dame, and they love him, the NFL scouts.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't even call him a backup. I think they're

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Speaker 5: one A one d and I think that's how they

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Speaker 5: look at him.

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Speaker 12: So, by the way, is our bet still we still

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Speaker 12: have that bet going on who wins more games. But

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Speaker 12: your schedule is joke.

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Speaker 5: Because the big twelves of gon letting.

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Speaker 12: Okay, well, I mean it's a little tougher than what

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Speaker 12: you what you got left on that schedule.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's like, well, to your point, there's nothing left.

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Speaker 5: What was there was on a state have.

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Speaker 12: Not much?

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Speaker 5: Okay, thanks for coming out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will put Louisiana hot sauce on both y'all's teams.

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Speaker 2: Grill y'all up each we possibly could. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 12: All right, guys, take care