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Speaker 1: Everybody seems to think that there's a war in the

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Speaker 1: Eric swam with thirty years of experience in special forces

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Speaker 1: and intelligence, doesn't believe that. He believes there's an insurgency

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Speaker 1: taking place in the entire Republican Party. So don't miss

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Speaker 1: today on the David Rutherford Show. All right, Eric one,

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Speaker 1: just thank you sir for coming on. I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate what you've done. But what really got me

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Speaker 1: is you just wrote an article that is one of

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Speaker 2: The Insurgency Within.

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Speaker 1: And if you could just describe to our audience what

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Speaker 1: the articles about and why you wrote it to just

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Speaker 1: get going, that'd be awesome.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So up front, I'm America first. I'm mega. I'm

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Speaker 3: very pro Trump. He's probably the best president I've seen

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Speaker 3: in at least as far as i've been alive.

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Speaker 4: Very who's all about America.

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Speaker 3: And I'm very much into analyzing groups regardless whether they're liberal,

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Speaker 3: whether they're conservative, whether they're they're a foreign entity that's

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Speaker 3: trying to control America from within. I'm constantly assessing them

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Speaker 3: and looking at their strengths, their weaknesses or vulnerabilities, and

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Speaker 3: what their end state is. And so one of the

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Speaker 3: things I've been looking at, especially following Data Republican, was

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Speaker 3: her analysis of Thoon and and what the old school

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Speaker 3: Republicans are doing within the Republican Party. And then also

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Speaker 3: adding in what just happened down in Florida right outside

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Speaker 3: right there when Trump won I think by like fourteen

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Speaker 3: Alabama is just very very laxa daisical GOP influence when

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Speaker 3: it comes to elections. Georgia had a horrible special election

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Speaker 4: And all I'm seeing is a total lack of effort.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching the social media I'm watching actions on the ground,

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Speaker 4: Why are they doing this?

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Speaker 3: Because if you're if you're if you're a conservative, you're

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Speaker 3: of this liberal progressive party and the craziness that's out there.

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Speaker 3: If you're if you're on that side, you want to win.

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Speaker 3: That's your team.

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Speaker 4: You want.

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Speaker 3: You have aspirations for America. You have goals, you know,

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Speaker 3: for your family, for your kids, for your neighbors, for

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Speaker 3: when you see like the Save Act being the Save

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Speaker 3: when it came to homeland defense, this the inaction speaks volumes.

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Speaker 3: so what are they doing? And to me, it really

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Speaker 3: matter who Trump endorses, no matter what goes on, what

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Speaker 4: They got goals, they have dreams, and when.

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Speaker 3: There's there's a place in your life where you get

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Speaker 4: And what I'm seeing is what.

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Speaker 3: Appear like these the old school Republicans are becoming protective

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Speaker 4: So what does that what does that look like?

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Speaker 3: we're gonna immediately roll over and they're they're gonna start

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Speaker 3: trying to They're gonna send impeachment after impeachment up to

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Speaker 4: It's just it's the same thing we saw.

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Speaker 3: From sixteen to twenty and it's the delay tactic by

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna get anything accomplished, and nothing.

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Speaker 3: Nothing getting accomplished serves There are two different goals other

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Speaker 2: Great answer.

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Speaker 1: You you you call them out and there they actually

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Speaker 3: So I use a system of analysis that comes out

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Speaker 4: And I put that.

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Speaker 3: All into you know, like if you look at the article,

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Speaker 4: Spelled it all out.

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Speaker 3: And despite what everybody was trying to do versus Isis

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Speaker 4: We took away any any control.

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Speaker 3: Of ground space isis failed. And that is the beauty

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Speaker 4: It's you got to think like they do well.

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Speaker 1: And I love that you put that out there. And

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Speaker 2: You know, we're we're behind enemy lines.

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Speaker 1: I think the unique thing about all of this in

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Speaker 2: A lot of it they're just doing out in the open.

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Speaker 1: And so can you like and this is not new, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's really where the modern the neokon.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the neocon development, I you know, I think

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Speaker 1: and so it's it's over and it's dead, and the

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Speaker 1: MAGA populist movement is now firmly in control. But can

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Speaker 1: you go down to the nuance level, so the like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what's really funny is it's like I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm not making stuff up. If you they actually have

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Speaker 4: You can look them up.

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Speaker 1: The infrastructure is in place to resist its dismantling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, systems theory. System is going to defend itself.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain systems theory to everybody, because it's that's

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Speaker 3: My brother could do a much better job of explaining

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Speaker 4: But the general concept is a system.

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Speaker 3: Eventually gets to a point where it is a living,

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Speaker 2: It feeds it eats, it breathes.

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Speaker 3: It also fights and it resists. It doesn't want to die.

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Speaker 3: And you to they in order to defeat a system,

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Speaker 4: And it's simplicity in it.

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Speaker 4: It's a shortcut. It's a beautiful shortcut.

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Speaker 3: If you're for your job, it helps you protect your

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Speaker 3: if you're a staffer, it helps protect your boss. It's

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Speaker 4: People were cut out.

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Speaker 3: And that's also part of the system. The information system

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Speaker 3: And so information is the same. They're all sharing information.

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Speaker 4: Do this.

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Speaker 3: And the system will fight. The system will fight and

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Speaker 3: We've got to interrogate the people that we're going to

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Speaker 1: you you know, to take for Iran for instance. And

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that people are so

439
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Speaker 1: offended by what Joe Ken is saying is that that

440
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Speaker 1: type of information from you know, the people who got

441
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Speaker 1: on board with us thinking this was the way to

442
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Speaker 1: break the system. The system has then encapsulated the president

443
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Speaker 1: and he's being funneled what they want him to hear,

444
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Speaker 1: and and so he's you know, it's the typical characters

445
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Speaker 1: out there.

446
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Speaker 2: It's it's like.

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Speaker 1: You said, it's the Thunes, right, it's William Cohen Allen Simpson,

448
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: who are kind of the founders of this whole thing. Right,

449
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Speaker 1: You've got the Chris Vance's, like you said in your article.

450
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Speaker 1: You know you've got you know, and then looking forward,

451
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Speaker 1: they have a whole slew of people that they can

452
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Speaker 1: come in and be distracting to the populist movement that

453
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Speaker 1: they're funning. And you know, I guarantee we see Kemp,

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Speaker 1: you know, in twenty eight, We're going to see Youngkin

455
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Speaker 1: in twenty eight, We're going to see Bacon in twenty eight.

456
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Speaker 1: And if you pay attention to Pollymarket, or you pay

457
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Speaker 1: attention to other you know, poll analysis, it's like, oh jd.

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Speaker 1: Vance isn't even a thing, and let's just get rid

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Speaker 1: of him because he was the populist guy that and

460
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Speaker 1: everybody was angry that Trump picked him. And remember remember

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Speaker 1: the lead up before Butler, you know, and and I

462
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Speaker 1: almost think like Butler was like, oh, you made the

463
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Speaker 1: wrong choice. You know, You're we're taking you down type

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Speaker 1: of thing. I have no no, that's allegedly I have

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Speaker 1: no understand inside ball of everything whatsoever. But it seems

466
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Speaker 1: like it's the same principles that we saw from Bush Obama.

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Speaker 2: It's all it's all those same people.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, after I let you respond to this,

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Speaker 1: let's go into the donor aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you brought up the think tanks, and that's a

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Speaker 3: That's another key ally of the the old school Republican

472
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Speaker 3: Party is that all the think tanks that are out there,

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Speaker 3: like I was talking about that one information paper that

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Speaker 3: circulates daily over there in DC, the think tanks are

475
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Speaker 3: all owned by old school Republicans. We we can change

476
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Speaker 3: out the politicians all we want, but the all those

477
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Speaker 3: think tanks are are old school Republicans and they're the

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Speaker 3: ones that again it's the easy button to go to

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Speaker 3: the think tank to hey, we need some thoughts on this,

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Speaker 3: and and so they call.

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Speaker 4: The same think tanks over and over and over. But

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Speaker 4: we're not.

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Speaker 3: Replacing the people who are at the top of the

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Speaker 3: think tank. So when somebody did an analysis of of

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Speaker 3: d C, of especially of the Republican Party, of what

486
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Speaker 3: happens when they go they get elected like they're there,

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Speaker 3: there's like a descending graph of where they are on

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Speaker 3: the Republican The longer they say in DC, the more

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Speaker 3: they they move towards the middle, and that's that's that's huge.

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Speaker 3: It's like I elected you to be because you were here.

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Speaker 3: And if you're going to drift towards there, the longer

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Speaker 3: you're in d C, that's not good because the other

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Speaker 3: party is not drifting towards the middle, They're drifting further

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Speaker 3: and further away. The middle is is not the middle.

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Speaker 3: The middle is supports the other side because it's it's

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Speaker 3: a do nothing concept. Yeah, you you've got to be

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Speaker 3: just as aggressive if I'm if I'm electing you there

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Speaker 3: to go there, you've got to remain just as aggressive

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Speaker 3: as you sold me. And because that's the only way

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Speaker 3: we're going to counter this. The middle is stop going

501
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Speaker 3: towards average. The average is not what you think it is.

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Speaker 3: The average supports the other side easily. So you talk

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Speaker 3: about the think tanks, you talk about like especially Kemp

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Speaker 3: coming out of out of Georgia, and as I was saying,

505
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Speaker 3: like George is not putting a whole lot of money

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Speaker 3: and effort into this election campaign for the mid terms,

507
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, so what are they using that

508
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Speaker 3: Where is that money going? And you know, when I

509
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Speaker 3: saw the Kemp was being considered, I was like, oh,

510
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Speaker 3: you got to be kidding me.

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Speaker 4: And and he's.

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Speaker 3: Very he's in deep with the GOP here in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: He's horrible. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I had Greg Dozel, who's running for lieutenant governor, on

515
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Speaker 1: to discuss uh, you know, his pushback on COVID as

516
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Speaker 1: well as the election systems right. And he he was

517
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Speaker 1: the first guy, as a freshman congressman to bring, hey,

518
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Speaker 1: we need to look at these special elections with Ausoff

519
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Speaker 1: and I forget what the other Democratic senators it was,

520
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Speaker 1: and and and that was in the beginning of twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I also have had Garland Favarrito on, who from the

522
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Speaker 1: get go has has you know, mapped out the whole scam,

523
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Speaker 1: but nothing has taken place, right and and and people

524
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Speaker 1: want to believe, you know, I think I think the

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Speaker 1: miracle of the Trump populist movement was that it gave

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Speaker 1: like you said, it gave the people hope, right, It

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Speaker 1: gave the people hope that through and and by relegating

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Speaker 1: traditional media off to the side, so you're you weren't

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Speaker 1: gonna win an election by going on CNN or Fox.

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Speaker 2: You were gonna win the election by.

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Speaker 1: Going on Joe Rogan, Sean Ryan, having Tucker uh for

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Speaker 1: you and even THEO Vaughn, which is the most unbelievable thing.

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Speaker 1: But that's who the zoomers are watching, is right. They're

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Speaker 1: paying attention, and so the whole dynamic of of how

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Speaker 1: you reach the odors changed. And I think that donor

536
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Speaker 1: class and the entrenched old guard are furious. That's why

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Speaker 1: you're trying to see like I don't know if you

538
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Speaker 1: saw it, like Jake Tapper's show is this this set

539
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: looks like a podcast now it's hilarious, right, And and

540
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: they're trying to adapt to the growth, but they're so

541
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Speaker 1: detached because they're all in their bubbles that there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a challenge.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: But again, let me ask you this, and this is

545
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Speaker 1: like the people like, it's up to right, it's up

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Speaker 1: to that twenty eight year old kid or a thirty

547
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Speaker 1: four year old new parent who's still in a rental,

548
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Speaker 1: who is just trying.

549
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Speaker 2: To grind out.

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Speaker 1: And now what they're seeing is that their money can

551
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Speaker 1: control a feed, right, and their money with through bot

552
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Speaker 1: farms or through the messaging or whatever it is, is

553
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Speaker 1: starting to interrupt the populace feeds. You talked about going

554
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Speaker 1: from twenty seven hundred to seventy seven thousand, which is

555
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: amazing and awesome because your voice should be in at

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Speaker 1: the forefront of making decisions because of how your entire

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Speaker 1: adult life has been based on a now you know,

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Speaker 1: analysis of critical information into intelligence. How does how do

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Speaker 1: those people fight back against the billionaires, the think tanks,

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Speaker 1: the lobby firms. How do they begin to fight back

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Speaker 1: against that? How do they do their own analysis?

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Speaker 3: All right, So, if you've read several of my articles,

563
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Speaker 3: though I keep a serious going how to Think like

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Speaker 3: a Green Beret, one of the things that in waking

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Speaker 3: people up is the ability to analyze information and turn

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Speaker 3: it into intelligence. Also looking at your sources of information

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Speaker 3: and grading it accordingly as to whether it's uh, it

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Speaker 3: has any validity to it, and whether it can be

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Speaker 3: corroborated uh. And and then just like we did overseas,

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Speaker 3: where we you know, we did working with sources overseas,

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Speaker 3: you had to sit there and figure out who you

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Speaker 3: want to listen to, uh, what their overall, what their

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Speaker 3: goals are, and then put things into perspective and then

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Speaker 3: proceed forward from there. And we have to bring. It's

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Speaker 3: one thing. It's one thing for them to sit there

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Speaker 3: and select their their source, their their sources of information.

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Speaker 3: To shift from the legacy media which is just pure

578
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Speaker 3: propagandam it's pure Russian propaganda, and then switching over to

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Speaker 3: online where pe and you've got to select people who

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Speaker 3: are doing this. Uh, they're they're not getting paid there.

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Speaker 3: When when you start seeing people in the millions and

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Speaker 3: you you look at the amount of money that's circulating

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Speaker 3: it into them, you immediately got to bring into something.

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Speaker 3: There's got to be some sort of suspicion in your

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Speaker 3: mind about how much uh of their information is. They

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Speaker 3: may be good people, but you know, how they're getting

587
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Speaker 3: their information, why they're getting their information can come into question.

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Speaker 3: And so you've got to teach the the these younger

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Speaker 3: generations and they're great, you know, Lord love them. I am,

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Speaker 3: uh the Zoomer generation. I'm excited for him.

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 3: I really consider them my team and I try to

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Speaker 3: act like a team leader, protecting my team and bringing them,

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Speaker 3: you know, into play because they're going to do it.

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Speaker 3: But to teach them how to you know, sift through

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Speaker 3: the information just as quick as we did to sit there,

597
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Speaker 3: look at everything, scan it, put it into into your mind.

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Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, these are people I want to listen to.

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Speaker 3: These are people I don't want to listen to. There

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Speaker 3: are there are people out there that you know that

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Speaker 3: are liars that you listen to just because you know

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Speaker 3: they're going to lie.

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Speaker 1: You want to see what they're going to do, what

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Speaker 1: the lie is right, and so what the narrative is?

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Speaker 1: So can you can you expand two quick things. One,

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Speaker 1: I think when people hear information and intelligence, they're like, well,

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Speaker 1: what's the difference?

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Speaker 2: So will you explain that?

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Speaker 1: And then explain why you want to look at the

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Speaker 1: opposite the opposition as well too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, uh, in the intelligence cycle, there is gathering information,

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Speaker 3: then it goes through a process where it gets processed,

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Speaker 3: and then it comes out into intelligence.

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Speaker 4: So every piece of it, the way you have to

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Speaker 4: look at it, uh.

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Speaker 3: And the way I teach you know, young intelligence people

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Speaker 3: is using puzzles.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So if.

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Speaker 3: I were to take go out by five boxes of puzzles,

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Speaker 3: immediately open them up and I grab a handful of

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Speaker 3: pieces from each of those boxes, and I throw it

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Speaker 3: into another box with no picture on it whatsoever. All

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Speaker 3: those little pieces from five different puzzles are information. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So now I sit there and I give you a box.

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Speaker 3: It's got no picture on it, because never mind that

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Speaker 3: whole Everybody used to always go around and go, what's

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Speaker 3: the picture? They come up to inteligen, what's the intel picture?

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Speaker 3: The hell, I don't know. You got ten different you know,

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Speaker 3: five ten different puzzles going on out there. But now

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Speaker 3: once you take those pieces of information knows puzzles and

631
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Speaker 3: you start putting them on the board and you start

632
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Speaker 3: looking at it and analyzing and see where things fit,

633
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Speaker 3: what looks like, and you start moving it around.

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Speaker 4: That's the analysis.

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Speaker 3: When as you get more pieces and they start to

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Speaker 3: form into something again, you don't know what the picture

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Speaker 3: necessarily is. But that's where you're now into the intelligence realm.

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Speaker 3: As things start to form that there's plenty of dangers

639
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Speaker 3: with each one because which puzzle is relevant, which puzzle

640
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Speaker 3: is irrelevant. I will give you an example from Iraq.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that everybody used to do. They

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Speaker 3: used to classify every soon he was al Qaeda, every

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Speaker 3: Shia was Jashl Mahdi or jam. It didn't matter what

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Speaker 3: their relationship. Are they sooner or are they Shia and

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Speaker 3: then immediately and that was the way the picture formed.

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Speaker 3: But those of us who were on the ground, like

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Speaker 3: I encountered a family of three guys or three or

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Speaker 3: four guys, and they were Shia. They were living in

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Speaker 3: one of the smaller towns there. They were raising absolute cane,

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Speaker 3: and there was like, oh, there's jay shal Maadi. And

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Speaker 3: then when we eventually captured them and I did the

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Speaker 3: you know, we're doing the the the post hit analysis

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Speaker 3: of the target, and I'm looking around, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's Sheia. I can sit there and see all the

655
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Speaker 3: key you know people there, And we did look at deeper.

656
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: All they were was thugs. They were just a gang.

657
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: And so that's a different, completely different picture. And then

658
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: so are they jashal Maadi? Are they a political gang?

659
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: Are they just a small town gangs? And every son

660
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: he being al Qaeda was absolutely ridiculous too, And because

661
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: show me the connection to sid, where's the phone call,

662
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: show me an email from the you know them to

663
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: uh Bin Laden anything, But no they're not. And so

664
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: you're you're the analysis comes from that, and that's where

665
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: your picture starts to form and you start having to

666
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: that's intelligence and now you sit there and prosecute the

667
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 3: right targets for the right reasons. So that's the difference

668
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: between information and intelligence.

669
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: And information is cold. It's a fact.

670
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, it doesn't mean anything until you put

671
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: it through a process, analyze it and see and try

672
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: to come up with some sort of meaning behind this.

673
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: All right, So now when you're talking about why would

674
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: I ever consider listening to the opposing side? So if

675
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: I'm dealing with the source. We had this Afghanistan. We

676
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: had a guy his brother was involved in i ads

677
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: and whenever we were looking at so we would talk

678
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: to him, and anytime his brother was involved with what

679
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: we were looking at, he would immediately divert and we

680
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: were like, oh, there we go. You know, we knew

681
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: his brother was an i AD maker and a placer,

682
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: and so as soon as we sat there and we

683
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: had information from other sources saying that ID was being

684
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: placed in the area where his brother operated, he deviated.

685
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: And so when he.

686
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: Deviated, that was kind of to us, kind of like his.

687
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: Brother is involved, this is it.

688
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: It's almost it's a sick in true yes to what's

689
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: going on. He'll tell you the truth about everything else,

690
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: But what his brother is involved in, and that you

691
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 3: just have to know that about the people you're working with.

692
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 3: It's like if they you can deal with, like let's

693
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: take Israel for instance, Okay, and you can talk to

694
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: Israel about everything you want to and they'll be honest

695
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: and upfront about everything except for what they're involved in,

696
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: and or any other country for that matter, they're not gonna.

697
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: They're good. They're gonna.

698
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: It's not just Israel. Everybody does the same thing. And again,

699
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: as I said.

700
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: When we were talking earlier, I have no I'm not

701
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: anti Semitic, I'm not anti anybody. I to treat everybody

702
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: the same and analyze everybody. You know, I treat you

703
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: as as as an equal. I respect you. I respect

704
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: the Democrats. I watch what they do and and I

705
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: will you know, people call the Democrats loonies and all

706
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: this other stuff, and then I'm like, hold up, you know,

707
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: if they're so looney, they've been. They've been, you know,

708
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: whipping us all over the place right now. So if

709
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: you continue to thinking they're idiots, you're making a huge

710
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: mistake because they're good at what they do.

711
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: And you have have to respect people.

712
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: You have to respect whether they're friendly or enemy, you

713
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: have to respect them, you have to know what they're doing.

714
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: And and so I you have to understand that people

715
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: are people are gonna lie about things.

716
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: People are gonna tell truth about things. If they're if they're.

717
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: Consistently lying about one thing, that's a truth in and

718
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: of itself.

719
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: I I that that's that when when I went to

720
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: the agency is when I really understood that. It's like

721
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: it is how to spot the deviations right, as well

722
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: as how to spot the structure of the messaging right

723
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: and then find its counterpoint right and then and then

724
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: find find you know, where it's being distributed and how right,

725
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: and and I think and that's and that's the same thing.

726
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: I think in American politics. One of the one of

727
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: the easiest ways that's really kind of out in the

728
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: open right for you know, certain campaign finance laws and

729
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: lobbying laws and pharah responsibilities, is that you just follow

730
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: the money, yes, and it's really out and the open.

731
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: And you know, one of I think one of the

732
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: major players in what's taking place right now obviously is

733
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: Ballard Partners and Mercury Public Affairs, you know, and what's

734
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: what people don't have any idea is that the White

735
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, spent eight years as

736
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: a lobbyist at Ballard Partners with offices in Florida, Tel Aviv,

737
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: and Saudi Arabia. So if you look at the nexus

738
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: of that alone as what's taking.

739
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: Place overseas, it's pretty amazing.

740
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: The other side of that is then served as the

741
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: co chair of Mercury Public Affairs, and then Pam Bondi

742
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: also came from Ballard, right, And Ballard bundled one point

743
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: eight million for Trump this cycle, and then after he

744
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: got elected, they signed twenty eight new clients in sixty

745
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: six days while she was the chief of staff, right,

746
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: So as you pull back, and also Ballard has been

747
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: a you know, I've pretty much been a part of

748
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Rubio's career from the beginning. Uh So, you know, when

749
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: you when you take a step back and look at that,

750
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: why is it so difficult for our team, let's say, right,

751
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: which is for the American people, those kids? Yes, because

752
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: that's that's my one of my main focus on this

753
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: is to really try and inspire, you know, young American

754
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: men how to make good decisions that strengthen the country

755
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: in a way that gives them back the dream we

756
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: promised them, you know, and and how do you how

757
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: do you what do you say to those kids in

758
00:41:53,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: order to understand the power of what lobbying represents and

759
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: to kind of provoke them into action themselves. And then

760
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: what action specifically can they do.

761
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: If you're you're this is where it's going to require work.

762
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: And this they're not going to freely tell you all

763
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: this information that's not in their best interest. Is that

764
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: there and lay their cards down on the table. You've

765
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: got to look at it like a like a poker game.

766
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: You've got to do your analysis of the other, the

767
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: person on the other side of the table constantly. You've

768
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: got to look at you know, where you've got to

769
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: The information's out there. One of the beautiful things that

770
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: like Data Republican is showing is how much information is

771
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: out there if you if you scan for it and

772
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: look for it.

773
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: She's incredible, Oh isn't she?

774
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: Like yeah, on the background for years and the analysis

775
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: and the connections and everything just fantastic.

776
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: But that's the level of it's going to require work.

777
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: And the one like we're like I was talking about

778
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: with the zoomer is going after marathons.

779
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: That's work. And if you're going to be a good uh.

780
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: Citizen, this is And like I said, we went to

781
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: a probably much earlier. I talked about the fact that

782
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: we went to sleep as a good citizen, It's on

783
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: us to do the research. It's on us one to

784
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: get a decent education, to do the research on our own.

785
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: They're not going to give it to us. We've got

786
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 4: to do this.

787
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: Sort information into intelligence, do the analysis and and then

788
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: vote accordingly.

789
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: It's going to require work on our part.

790
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that the old days of just you know,

791
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: getting your news from the TV, like the Boomers and

792
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: and what like we thought as an early exgen you know,

793
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: is I'll just watch TV and I'll get what I

794
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: need to know from them. That those days are gone.

795
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: We're in an information age. Use the information you can.

796
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: AI is out there. If you if you've got questions,

797
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: jump use use.

798
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 4: The tools that you have available. They're beautiful. Jump on AI.

799
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 4: Ask the question.

800
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: The AI will fill your fill you up with knowledge faster.

801
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: And but you got to read it.

802
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: You can't just sit there and accept AI as is.

803
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: But but read it and and really do it. And

804
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: I trust the one thing I suspect with the zoomers

805
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: is that they are going to go they are going

806
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: to adopt that mentality. They're not going to take anything

807
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: at face value anymore. They've already seen the mistake of

808
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: taking things at face value. And and so they're they're learning,

809
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: and they're asking questions, and they're doing the hard work.

810
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: They're doing marathons, they're they're lifting weights again.

811
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: They're jiu jitsu at you, And I just want to say,

812
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: your black belt in jiu jitsu and have your own

813
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: judge your black belt in judo as well too.

814
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: So how how critical is it learning the work?

815
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: Not just you know, obviously the physicality of of of

816
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: the grind teaches you so much about yourself and expands

817
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: expands what your potential might be. But the work intellectually,

818
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: the work emotionally.

819
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I had a school before.

820
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to college right now because I'm getting some surgery,

821
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: so much needed surgeries on my body. I've had a

822
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: shoulder replacement and knee replacement just in the the past

823
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: two months. But once that's healed back up and I've

824
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: graduated from school, I'm going to open up another school

825
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: here in the area, and one of the ways that

826
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm going with this is I'm going to go into

827
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: the intellectual side of it, because the one of the

828
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 3: there's so much with jiu jitsu is kind of falling

829
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: on the wayside because they've put too much effort effort

830
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: into the physicality of it and not enough into the

831
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: intellectual side of it to it all has meaning, it

832
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: all has relevance. I'm not saying jiu jitsu is life

833
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: and you need to become a cultist or anything like that,

834
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: but what you need to sit there and realize, like

835
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: one of the things we're going to be teaching, and

836
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 3: I've talked this over with my wife and we're really

837
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 3: really it's something we want to do, is that there

838
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: are six different ways to go with a conflict. You know,

839
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: I'll give you the big three is always fight, flight,

840
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: or freeze, Right, those are the big three. There's three

841
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: more beyond that. But everybody has a way of dealing

842
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: with conflict. And so you have people out there who

843
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: absolutely are scared to just step on the map because

844
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: it's not within their conflict realm. They their idea of

845
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: engaging any sort of conflict, whether verbally, mentally, physically, is

846
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: uh antithetical to them.

847
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: They they don't want to upset people.

848
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: Conflict is you may wind up upsetting somebody, and you

849
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: have to sit there and go beyond that spot and

850
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: just getting on the mat and engaging with somebody and

851
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: saying I'm going to resist you.

852
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: And so.

853
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: Training, training, taking that over into what we're doing is

854
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: even even off the mat, is that people still respond

855
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: with those same six different things. Probably one of the

856
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 3: bigger ones that you're seeing with the the the millennial

857
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: generation is a form of fawning where they try to

858
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: they try to get along because they've been beat down

859
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: with your racist or this or that, and so they

860
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: try to get along. They and and that that they

861
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: try to make the other side happy, but the other

862
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: side is absolutely refuses to be happy. And so you

863
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: got one side trying to make the other happy and

864
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: the other side is not going to ever be happy.

865
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: And so you've got one side constantly working, you know,

866
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: trying not to be racist, trying not to be a fascist,

867
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 3: trying not to be anti sybotics, trying trying, and they're

868
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: doing everything possible to try to make the other side

869
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: happy and it's not going to happen.

870
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: That is a form of conflict.

871
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Reaction is the fawning response of trying to make the

872
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: other side happy, and to you got to sit there

873
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: and address that.

874
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 4: You can't.

875
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: You can't live your life trying to make somebody else happy.

876
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: It doesn't work. And not in the history of ever

877
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: has I'm a people pleaser ever made anybody happy.

878
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: You can.

879
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: You cannot list an account on one hand on how

880
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: many people you've pleased being a people pleaser. You've got

881
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: you be yourself and maybe you'll please people, and and

882
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: so with.

883
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: The like the the BJJ and and.

884
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: To real life aspect of look, you're going to get

885
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: on the mat, you're going to resist, You're going to

886
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: put effort, You're going to fight for you, for you.

887
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 3: You don't have to, you can so you don't upset

888
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: the other person. But you can still win without upsetting

889
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: the other person. And all those relationships of conflict, of

890
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: teaching people not just to react with fight or not

891
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: to react with oh my god, flight, but or freeze

892
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: even worse.

893
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

894
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do.

895
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: It's just move them through, teach them all six forms

896
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: of conflict, and to be able to sit there and

897
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: react and pick and choose those things. I want to

898
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: take a white belt who has who comes in there

899
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: and is a fauner and get them to the point

900
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 3: where they can pick and choose which form of conflict

901
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: that they're going to resolution they're going to go with

902
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: by the time they're black belt.

903
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: Fantastic. All right, last thoughts on last question for you.

904
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: Obviously, you know, I think people in particular those zoomers,

905
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: they they they're nervous right now. They you know all

906
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: the different changes in draft numbers, and you know, they're

907
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: eighty seconds being moved. There's two mews that are in

908
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: everybody's saying, and we're going to war. There's boots on

909
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: the ground, you know, And so I think these these

910
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: young people are in this you know, unique space of

911
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: going the main challenges are ahead of us. But in reality,

912
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: we're already in this insurgency. There's an insurgency going on internally,

913
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: just as you noticed with the Minnesota Post that garnered

914
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: thirty two million views, which was unbelievable, by the way,

915
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: But we're in an insurgency. And I loved how what

916
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: you just talked about with jiu jitsu, it formulates your

917
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: mind to face the insurgency. Obviously these young people and

918
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: us included.

919
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not out of the world.

920
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: We're I think you're right, we're in an operational, hierarchical

921
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: structure right where the teachers, where the influencers were that

922
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: and I hate using that word, I'm sorry, but as

923
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: this as they're making, as they're adapting to this intellectually

924
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: and emotionally, how how did they begin to interact with

925
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: each other like what?

926
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: What?

927
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: What should they Because one of the things that I

928
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: think was so catastrophic with Charlie Kirk's death was he

929
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: was teaching them how to think as a collective, right

930
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: and in order to beat the system. Right that's already

931
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: entrenched in order. And now I believe that the there's

932
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: a group within that system that are trying to bring

933
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: AI in to solidify the system permanently, right, whether it's

934
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: through a digital currency or voting by phone, or a

935
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: social credit score or whatever that is, because right, every

936
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: time we go into a massive war footing, we lose

937
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: our liberties a lot more, as we saw from the

938
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Patriot Act opportunity right, Right, how do they begin to

939
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: fortify themselves as a collective group that can push back

940
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: like it you know, is it only through social media?

941
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Is it only through getting involved in their precinct or

942
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: running for office? What what what systems can they create?

943
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: Okay, so first off, I'm I have faith that no

944
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 3: matter what insurgenty, insurgency it is, you know, whether it

945
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: be the the Democrat insurgency, whether it be you know,

946
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 3: the Republican old school insurgency that is going on, all

947
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: of them trying to capture society and reframe it in

948
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: their way of doing. I think all of them are

949
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: destined to fail. The if the core of the country,

950
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: the the the actual line of people who are quiet,

951
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: who are out here farming, who live their lives, they

952
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 3: are in their neighborhoods and stuff like that. Part of

953
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: an insurgency is you have to can You got to

954
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: convince everybody to think your way, and they're what they're

955
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: selling is not going to take. The problem is with

956
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 3: the insert is still going to the insurgencies are still

957
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: going to cause problems. And that's the bigger aspect that

958
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 3: I want to stop. They're going to fail. They can't,

959
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: they can't switch the American thought process. We're we are

960
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 3: so we are a team that is designed we want

961
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: to be number one. We want to go to the moon,

962
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: we want to go to Mars. We want to win

963
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: an NBA game. You know when you got young football

964
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: players on high school teams and they don't even have

965
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: a car and they're walking to school and bringing their

966
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: gear with them. You know that type of fortitude within

967
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: the American You can't change that. That's core and I

968
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 3: have faith in that when I see it every day

969
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 3: as I look around where I live here in Georgia,

970
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 3: and there are so many good people out there doing

971
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: so many great things.

972
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 4: They're just there.

973
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of everybody looking and seeing each

974
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 3: other because we all got drifted into this the COVID

975
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: of living in your house and not looking around and

976
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: looking at at the people to your left and right.

977
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: Your team is out there, and so how do I

978
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: see these young people doing. The biggest thing is be yourself,

979
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: Be your true self. Don't people, your team, your crew,

980
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: Your people will find you. If you're out there doing marathons,

981
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: like what is going on with with the Zoomer, where

982
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: they hold that in high esteem as a medal from

983
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: a marathon.

984
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 4: I thought, God, that's beautiful.

985
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: It speaks volumes when you see that they're going to

986
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: the weight room and they're being themselves. They're done, they're

987
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: they're they're done playing games for other people that I

988
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: don't care if you call me a racist. I don't

989
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: care if you call me a home they're done trying

990
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: to get along and they're going to be themselves. And

991
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: in that when you it's just like finding your spouse

992
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: or something. You can't change who you are, and in

993
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: tract your spouse, you have to be yourself and you'll

994
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 3: find somebody who will join with you, who will become

995
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: part of your team, your your support, your your you know,

996
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 3: your partner for life is because you're true to who

997
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: you are and that's for it. Just like we do

998
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: had on the teams. Everybody on the teams was true

999
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 3: to themselves. They had gone through selection, they had gone

1000
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: through a process, they had revealed their character, and then

1001
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: they put us together and then we work together and

1002
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: combine as a team, and we work together and everybody

1003
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: sees each other and you know, that's my team.

1004
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: And all the.

1005
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: Challenges that come along the way and you go through them,

1006
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 3: and the more you go through the I mean, they're young,

1007
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 3: they've got a lot of things.

1008
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna do. They're gonna get a lot of challenges.

1009
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: Keeping yourself, be strong, show your true character, and the

1010
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: right people will find you. If you try to fake

1011
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: who you are, you're the only people you're gonna get

1012
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 3: around you who want you because of who you're faking

1013
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: that you are. So if you believe in in America,

1014
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: if you believe in you know the goodness of.

1015
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 4: How we are, we're the best team out there. We are.

1016
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 3: There's no other team trying to do what we are.

1017
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: There's no other country that believes that we're trying to.

1018
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: We're well beyond trying to win the game, trying to

1019
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: improve and be better than we are than we are

1020
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: every single day. Elon musket and just leading away. I

1021
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: was just thinking about this just this morning too. It's

1022
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: like one of the worst things that's happened in the

1023
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: United States is the street lights and neon lights. The

1024
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: thing about street lights and neon lights is when they're

1025
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 3: lit up, you can't see the stars.

1026
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: But those of us who've been out in.

1027
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: The desert like we were in overseas and you look

1028
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: up and you see stars everywhere. That is the American

1029
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: way of thinking. It's like, I'm not contained. I'm not blinded.

1030
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: I see the universe out there, and you have to

1031
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: aspire to such great things. That's the human condition is

1032
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 3: to aspire to move forward, to go, to continue going.

1033
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: I mean, human kind, we're all masked on planet Earth.

1034
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: If something takes out planet Earth, that's the end of mankind.

1035
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 4: That's it.

1036
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: All of our eggs are in one basket right now.

1037
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: We've got to be moving so much forward that we've

1038
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: got to expand and beyond Earth. And if we don't

1039
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: do that as humans, as we don't come together and

1040
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: grab the people around us and move forward, we're done.

1041
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 4: That's it.

1042
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: This is the end of the human experiment as it is,

1043
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: and we've got to You've just got to adopt a mindset.

1044
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: The Goggins, the Jocko Willnix and.

1045
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.

1046
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 3: Those guys are great at getting people going that. The

1047
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: next level is leading, is going.

1048
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 4: Out you know.

1049
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're running marathons, Yeah you're lifting weights, Yeah, you're

1050
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: getting good grades and taking different realms of education.

1051
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: It's like, now, go lead, go big, go, do big things. Go.

1052
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm on your team. I'm cheering for them. I am

1053
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: cheering for them every single day. I love it. One

1054
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: of the funniest things about the marathon. I just saw

1055
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: this the other day too, is they're now there, this

1056
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 3: is how I'm gonna sit there and say the devil,

1057
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: Satan or whatever.

1058
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 4: And you can read into it how you want.

1059
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 3: Is somebody has come up with the ideas that they're

1060
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: gonna they hand out metals that the if you get

1061
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: to eighteen miles, they're.

1062
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: Willing to give you a medal.

1063
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: If that isn't the devil at work right there to

1064
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: sit there and hit you. That is exactly where the

1065
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: wall hits is at the east right. And God bless

1066
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: every Zoomer who looks at that guy out there waiting

1067
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: to pass out a medal at the eighteen mile mark

1068
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: when they signed up to do twenty six, and he

1069
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: doesn't give him the finger. He's like, how dare you

1070
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: try to compromise me that I'm going to give up

1071
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: that easily? For here, I got a medal. I got

1072
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: a medal, you can have it at eighteen. I think

1073
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: the zoomers are done with that.

1074
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: They're not playing.

1075
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: They don't want to participation in medal. They want to

1076
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to run twenty six. I may just get

1077
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: done and run twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine. I

1078
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: make goggins the heck out of this thing. God bless him.

1079
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: I love them, you know that. I am so enthusiastic

1080
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: about them out there. I'm like, it gives me like

1081
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 3: the joy that you have on your team, you know,

1082
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 3: as you're looking at the younger guys and they are

1083
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: pushing the limits and you're like, oh yes, and now

1084
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: you join in, and now you're pushing the limits again too.

1085
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: I hate that static feeling.

1086
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: And like I said, zoomers, young guys and everybody out there,

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Speaker 3: just be yourself.

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Speaker 4: Your crowd will find you.

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Speaker 3: Trust me, don't don't fake anything, Be you and your

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Speaker 3: people will find you.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Holy cal Eric Schwam. How can people follow you?

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00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: How can they sign up for your newsletters? How can

1093
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: they support you? And what do you got coming up next?

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Speaker 3: So if you know, you can find me on on

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Speaker 3: X sets, where I pretty much live and breathe.

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Speaker 4: I'm not looking to make any money out of this.

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Speaker 3: I do this purely out of the spirit of of

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Speaker 3: what I was trained and being Special Forces and being

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Speaker 3: a good leader and the selfless service I have. I'm fine,

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Speaker 3: you know, monetarily, I'm fine that you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: going to get better physically, and I got future plans

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Speaker 3: of my own and goals. I'm here for the fight.

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Speaker 3: I'm here for America. I'm here for the people that

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Speaker 3: the young people and who want who want to dream,

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Speaker 3: who want to chase those dreams and aren't satisfied with

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Speaker 3: sitting on the couch, Who who look at a mountain

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Speaker 3: and they don't get to a plateau and think I'm

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Speaker 3: going to stop. They continue to climb that mountain. And

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm here for.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's I got no other aspirations. I'm here to provide information.

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Speaker 3: You know, read my stories. I'm going to put out,

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Speaker 3: you know, good ways of thinking that will help you

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Speaker 3: achieve your goals and dreams. And then you know, once

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Speaker 3: hopefully at some point, I can sit there and pass

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Speaker 3: the ball and move on. If you want to continue

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Speaker 3: to listen to me, keep listening. If not, no problem,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do my American things.

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Speaker 1: Outstanding, sir, I can't thank you enough for just all

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Speaker 1: your service and and then sharing your insight and your wisdom.

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to paying attention to what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and man, I would love to have you on in

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Speaker 1: the future if you're willing to come back.

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Speaker 4: I'm here, brother. You know that.

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Speaker 3: It's like you know saying one team, one fight, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm here for to make America better, to to

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Speaker 3: to help everybody get to the next step.

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Speaker 2: Outstanding.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, God bless you. Sir M