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Speaker 1: lives even before the pandemic. I mean, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I am going to be very happy as someone who

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Speaker 1: wants to remain safe for as long as possible to

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Speaker 1: have of course, that's what I'll say. And I think

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Speaker 1: that this is an inevitable and responsible thing that they're doing. Um.

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Speaker 1: While I can also see the other side, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, it will be a shame if this hurts

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Speaker 1: the businesses of movie theater and the model of going

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Speaker 1: to the movie theater. But I really don't think it will.

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Speaker 1: I think that the industry will continue to be what

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Speaker 1: it's always been, which is those big blockbuster movies. People

436
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Speaker 1: are going to go see them in the movie theater

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Speaker 1: because of that experience, and other than that, people are

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Speaker 1: going to be streaming them because that ain't the fault

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Speaker 1: of the pandemic or this one studio. That is what's

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Speaker 1: happening with the entire film industry. So you can kick

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Speaker 1: your feet and scream and talk about like how this is,

442
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Speaker 1: you know, destroying the movie going experience, but it's been destroyed,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, ever since bird Box, it's

444
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Speaker 1: been over. Was the meteor that crashed on the dinosaur

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Speaker 1: planet of Hollywood, baby and and as they say in

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Speaker 1: the biz, ouch ouch I thought you were gonna say

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Speaker 1: out damn spot. Speaking of movies of the time, like

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Speaker 1: huge movies of the time, this is when like Armageddon

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Speaker 1: and Deep Impact came out. And you know, my ass

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Speaker 1: was terrified of those movies. It was very scary. It

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Speaker 1: was as a kid watching those movies. It was very

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Speaker 1: scary to think, Wow, where we could all die um

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Speaker 1: as a result of a random cosmic event like huge

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Speaker 1: time for like fatalism, porn in movies, like independent day,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like mass events that caused

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Speaker 1: death huge in the late nineties, early OTTs, and I

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Speaker 1: guess it's stopped with like not wasn't the last of them,

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Speaker 1: but it was like that was the beginning where all

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Speaker 1: of us had hit a wall with like, Okay, we

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Speaker 1: don't have to watch natural disasters or just like apocalypse movies.

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Speaker 1: And then it moved into post apocalyptic where that's kind

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Speaker 1: of different obviously, Yeah, but yeah, that you're right. That

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Speaker 1: was the nineties and the odds were like that thriving

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Speaker 1: ground for those movies. Very interesting. What were we thinking

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Speaker 1: and screaming for from inside our public consciousness, our collective

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Speaker 1: consciousness at the time that we needed such titilating sort

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Speaker 1: of world ending scenarios kind of makes you think, huh reader, Well, anyway,

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Speaker 1: we're talking, of course, about the night that Julia Roberts

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Speaker 1: one best Actress signifying that the Oscar said finally for

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Speaker 1: one scotten it right. And I would say that, um,

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Speaker 1: Julia continues to be just to put a fasten on

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Speaker 1: this continues to be one of the most interesting dynamic

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Speaker 1: queens that we have out there ruling the screen. Would

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Speaker 1: you consider her a queen ruling the screen. I would

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Speaker 1: consider her a queen with an scepter in hand, waving

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Speaker 1: in across us to the realm. But she's she's got

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Speaker 1: two hands on it. My sister Matt is holding the

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Speaker 1: sept I'm sort of holding the scepter. But look, this

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Speaker 1: is good improv. This is a good prop work. Like

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Speaker 1: it's really good object work. Yes, yes, this is me

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Speaker 1: holding a boom. Now I'm mime Girl podcast famously a

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Speaker 1: visual medium. Julia Roberts is a queen ruling the screen

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Speaker 1: once and for all. We serve at her pleasure. Mary

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Speaker 1: fu kill Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, Cameron Yes, Oh I

485
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: truly thought Cameron, Yes, was the most beautiful woman owner. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that means for a long time. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: fuck her. Mary Julia kill Sandra. I'm sorry, Sandra, Sandra

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Speaker 1: with the blind side. It's funny that you have two

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Speaker 1: Oscar owners in they were the queens that rolled the

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Speaker 1: screen at that time. Because Meg Ryan kind of said

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Speaker 1: I would have throwned like Reese weather Spoon in there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you feel, okay, well, I feel I feel that

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Speaker 1: Reese weather Spoon kind of rolls up the end half

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Speaker 1: the way time interesting, I did address the full crim

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Speaker 1: that you were setting, which was late nineties early ots

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Speaker 1: made to late nineties, Yes, queens of this screen, nineties

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Speaker 1: that went from like rom coms into like Prestige and

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Speaker 1: my Action Press and Prestige. Yes. Yes, I'm unfortunately going

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00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: to have to kill Sandra. Yeah, wow, joelk and Booster Shook.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, and um, I would have to

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00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: say that I would do the same. Well, let me

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Speaker 1: give you when this go ahead and give it so made,

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Speaker 1: Daddy gray Weatherspoon, Okay, it's already so hard. And Hathaway,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, and I get ready, get ready for it.

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Speaker 1: Kate Hudson, I would literally I knew my sister was

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Speaker 1: going to do this to me because he knows that

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Speaker 1: I love Kate Hudson. I live for her. That's why

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00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: you're such a twisty snake. Is because now I just

509
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: got actually hard I am, and this is rutal. I

510
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: have to marry Reese because she is just She's everything

511
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: to me. I love her. She's been the star of

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00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: all my favorite things. Legally blonde is one of my

513
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: favorite things ever. I'm gonna have to fuck Kate Hudson

514
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: because you gotta you gotta fun Kate Hudson, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: kill in and I'm gonna kill and even though it

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00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: hurts me, pains me so much to do so, I

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00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: just feel like, out of the three of them, maybe

518
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: we've seen everything we see to see. You think she's

519
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: done it all. She has convinced me she's a legend.

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00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: She really has. I'm like, well done in as I

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00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: take her out of the world, I think there is

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00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: a future waiting for her as she as she continues

523
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: to age up where she can do some interesting things.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine Anne Hathaway with like just a you

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Speaker 1: crow's feet, some gray hair off. It's gonna be epic.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be truly amazing. But that's I guess, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, that's very hard, very hard bone yang

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00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: And honestly, the readers are gonna be really mad at

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Speaker 1: me for fucking Kate Hudson. What's not to want to

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Speaker 1: fuck with Kate Hudson. And I feel bad that Anne

531
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Speaker 1: how to die because I didn't want to, Like, we

532
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: love her because I love how much you love nine

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Speaker 1: and almost famous and everything else. Sah, it's Saliano he

534
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: loves the cinema. It's Saliano. I love her like stupid

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Speaker 1: white girl performance of cinema and Saliano great, oh great

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Speaker 1: o good via minetto like driving down, You are amazing.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Kate, that's why you are Kay, you

538
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Speaker 1: are Kate Hudson. I think that I am and Anne,

539
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: but that is there's so much beauty and power in that.

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Speaker 1: We know that people think we try so hard, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: But the thing about you and Anne, you try hard,

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00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: but that resultant moments of sheer brilliance that none of

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00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: your contemporaries aren't capable of. And that is Anne Hathaway down.

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00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: She really stands above her entire generation. I feel and

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Speaker 1: they said home the circus, the rodeo clowns. No, No,

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00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I've never been a natural. Try try me and Taylor

547
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: from the same cloth. Yes, whereas it's like me Kate

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00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: Hudson and like honestly Brihanna. Kate Hudson is the Rihanna

549
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: of movie stars. She doesn't give it, doesn't give a fuck. Jerry,

550
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: that vary that energy like whatever, fuck, let's just go

551
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: smoke out back. My parents are so fucking famous and rich.

552
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Is that Kate Hudson is a my mom's Goldie Hawn.

553
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Let's fucking smoke a joint. That's fine. She said those

554
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: words verbatim. I guarantee you, dude, it's fine. My mom's

555
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Goldie Hawn. What do you think they're going to arrest me?

556
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: Be fucking crazy. My stepdad is Kurt Russell. I'm not

557
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: going to get arrested for smoking a joint. One of

558
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: you girls, girl, please, it's just becoming me now, everyone know,

559
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: because that's what we're saying is that you're O Kate.

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Speaker 1: What are you girls listening? What are your girls? If

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Speaker 1: you want to do a front facing video of Matt

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00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: of Matt doing an impression of Kate Hudson as a teenager,

563
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: I think there are so many beautiful layers to that

564
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: that I think the world, the Internet will disappear because

565
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: of the sheer impact. Should I do a wait for it,

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Speaker 1: web series called teen Kate Hudson? Oh my god, Yes,

567
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: that's so funny, Jean, Oh my god, that's the funniest

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Speaker 1: idea anyone has. I'm not even lying, anyone has ever

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Speaker 1: had stupid to be continued to be continued, Well, the

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Speaker 1: accountable readers we hold that hold not accountable on this

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Speaker 1: Christmas week, okay. And what we have to say to

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Speaker 1: Aaron tarn Brockvish to both Aaron, she's been remaining doing

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Speaker 1: the good work. Yes, absolutely. And what we say to

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Speaker 1: Julia Roberts winning the Oscar Best Actress, Julia Roberts, the

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Speaker 1: Oscars get it right. For once, we say no, thank

576
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: you for giving me pussy. My mom's goldie huk my pussy.

577
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Right now, my mom is called and she has a

578
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: sucking oscar inside for cactus flower. It's fine, smoke this joint,

579
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: good boy. Now eat my fucking let's see. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: that just feels really bad. Stop you can stop, No

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Speaker 1: big deal. Just let me drive you home. Okay. Bye,