WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What's New? 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:03.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:11.680 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.560 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:20.120 time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Wall 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:26.800 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.600 It is Thursday, January third, twenty nineteen, Season fourteen, episode 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.920 number one oh seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.120 We are live from the s WBC Morta Studios at 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.160 the Star. We're talking Cowboys football today. We're talking Cowboys 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.640 versus Seattle Seahawks. Big playoff game for this weekend, the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.360 wildcard weekend in the NFL. Cowboys will play the Seahawks 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.800 this Sunday, I mean, I'm sorry, this Saturday night at 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.479 at and T Stadium. We will spend quite a bit 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.720 of the show today with Dave giving us his scattered 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.400 report on the Seattle offense. We talked about the defense ester, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.840 we talked about the offense the other day. We're gonna 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:05.720 talk about defense today. How's everybody doing today? Great? Yeah, awesome, 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.240 Let's jump right in. Let's talk about this injury report 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.160 there were two guys that did not practice. Both did 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.480 not practice on what would have been I guess I'm 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.760 confused on Friday, on Wednesday, what would have been a 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:24.720 Thursday with David Irving and Xavier seue Philo. Are you 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.880 guys at this point thinking that Xavier suel Philos is 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.240 unlikely to play due to the fact that he has 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.479 not practiced this week? At this point, I am yes, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.600 because it's Friday in Cowboys world at least, and he 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.440 is not at practice. Jason Garrett also said today that 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.039 he is not going through the walkthroughs, So he's not 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.200 even doing not even doing walkthrough just to know what 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.400 his mental reps. Yeah, to me, suggests that he does 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.880 not have a very high likelihood of playing in this game. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:57.360 How concerned are you, Verry? He's way better than Connor Williams. Yeah, 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.360 Hunter Williams did not play well in that first game 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.680 against Yeah own, hopefully he's better, you know, better player. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.360 But I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence the 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.640 team started winning once they put him in. I mean, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.000 it's not just Cooper. He was a big part of it. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.280 And so I think he's a better player, and I 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.519 would like to see him out there more than Connor Williams. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.840 Yet you want to have a few things that are 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.720 different than that first game because they kind of kick 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.280 your ass the first time around, so you want to 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.680 have some things that are different. This is a noticeable 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.160 difference to me, and him not being out there is 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.040 a big deal. They will talk a little bit about 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.280 that defense, but in that last game they were able 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.519 to hit. They hit Dak ten times and they they've 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.160 sacked him five times, So a defensive front, they had 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:42.000 some You with the whole turnover thing. He didn't throw 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.480 an interception, they didn't let the ball the ball lose 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.760 and that's a big thing with him when he comes 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.720 to plane. So I'd be interesting, a curious to see 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.680 if he can do that. It managed to do that 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.359 again with more struggles on the outline. We're talking, we're 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.679 talking Dac right now. Yeah, he had he had two 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.760 turnovers in that So y'all game two. I'm talking about 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.040 like the last game. Oh no, Yeah, he's been great 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:08.280 at ball security the last two weeks in Seattle. No, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.639 not so much, which we'll get into it. What has 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.440 given the Cowboys problems this year? Interior pass rushers and 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.000 Seahawks have a good one. So yep. They fumbled twice 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.840 in that game against Seattle. Zeke did Dako just throw 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.680 two picks? Yeah? And both of the interceptions they were 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.200 I mean, yeah they were. They were kind of free 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.000 plays a little bit. But but you know, sometimes when 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.160 you put the ball in the wrong place, that kind 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.120 of stuff ends up happening. And certainly on the second 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.920 when you could make the argument that he probably shouldn't 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.720 have made that throw into that particular coverage. But I 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.480 will say, in defense of Connor Williams, I would much 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.160 rather have a healthy Zavier suea Philo. But he's not healthy. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.480 So I think I said that yesterday. I think I'd 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.920 rather have a one hundred percent healthy Connor Williams than 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.000 a Xavier sue Philo who you know, can't put any 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.080 weight on his foot. And I don't think that's that 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.400 That sounds like a recipe for trouble to me. Um, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.160 So yeah, I mean it's definitely concerning, but you know, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.080 you gotta make do. And in times like I keep thinking, Oh, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.520 he's gonna play, he's gonna play. They're just gonna wrap 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.800 the crap out of that ankle and just wrap it 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.160 and wrap it and wrap it and help it. You 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.719 row him in there, but the crap out of that ankle. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.720 You're absolutely right, though, how often do we I mean, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.400 every it's a very it's a common theme on our show, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.520 and like he's gonna play like they're shoot it up, 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.200 wrap it up, shoot it up, get him out there. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.520 But every now and then you come up against the 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.240 problem that you can't do that with and just can't 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:34.360 fix it, can't rule him out. But if he I mean, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.320 he's not even going through walkthroughs, that to me suggests 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.920 that they are preparing Connor Williams to have to play 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.920 this game because if nothing else, to walk through, make 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.320 sure that mentally you know what right to do so 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.679 that when you are healthy, if there's a game time decision, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.960 you're a guy, if you're a guy that can you know, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.120 tape it up and shoot it up, then then you're 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.160 probably going through walkthrough And they're like, all right, you 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.839 can't practice, but let's make sure you know your assignments, right, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.600 That's not the case here, So all right, let's talk 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.440 about some of the guys that were limited. Dave. Yesterday 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.320 you mentioned Tavon Austin being limited this week. He also 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.480 is joined by Sean Lee, Zach Martin, Tyron Smith, Tyron Crawford, 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.640 and Darien Thompson as guys that are limited. How concerned 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.320 are you about that from standpoint of Tavon Austin and 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.320 what you talked about yesterday him being limited this week 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.520 when last week he was full. We actually so I 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.760 asked Jason Garrett about it today in his press conference. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.080 He said, you know, he's coming back. He came I think, 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.200 Garrett said, he played fifteen snaps. He kind of came 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.440 out of that, you know, favoring it, trying to you know, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.680 listen to your body type of deal. He was at 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.839 practice today, he was fielding punts today, he was taking 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.760 part in things. So I guess that's a good sign. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.040 And Jason said they're optimistic about his availability for the weekend, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.400 so we'll see. Now. Most of the guys on this 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.760 list of limited are guys that are kind of been 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.560 a similar boat from the standpoint of they've been hurt, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.719 they they're veteran players, and it made me wonder if 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.680 this is more just one of those things where it's like, well, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.520 we're limiting them because we don't necessarily want to overwork 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.400 them and practice their veteran players. We want them to 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.560 be ready for game day. Take it. Tavan and Thompson 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.240 are the guys that I'm watching in terms of their availability. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.359 Darry and Thompson strained his growing in practice yesterday. He 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.839 wasn't he was out there, but he wasn't practicing. He 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.320 was doing rehab. The other guys, I those are all 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.200 those are veteran guys. It's not the same situation to you, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.680 Tavon as these other guys. I know, Zach's gonna play, 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.720 Tyrone's gonna play, Tyrone's gonna play. Yeah, Derek, I mean 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.400 that's standard injury procedure. Those guys are playing. I wasn't 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.400 gonna say it's a short week, but those three guys 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.680 it hasn't been. Tyrone and Tyrone and Zach all didn't play. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.520 But yeah, I do think the short week is, you know, 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.720 it's something that they're trying to manage as well. I 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.240 do think Tavan and Suafhilo are tied together on this. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.640 I think that if Sua Philo is going to play 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.320 and then you need more offensive linemen. I think Tavon's 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.479 a guy that maybe sits, but the fact that he 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.400 was working on the punt return team as the punt 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.560 returner on today's practice makes me think he's going to 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.919 be active for the game. And if Darian Thompson is 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.320 now limited with with what I guess as a growing injury, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.040 it's just happened. That also gives you if he if 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.280 he ends up in a sea, make a decision that's 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.360 he has been participating. But I could not definitively tell 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.160 you what he's what he's done. He's special teams. That's 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.840 what I was trying to figure out. Just now. I'm like, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.480 what what if he's been active. If he's been active 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.440 and he can't play, yeah, Dry and Thompson, Um, I 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.720 think that that he could be released and you put it, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.200 put a little guy out, put a lumbo or somebody 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.240 that that can run down on Maybe possible if he 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.800 is playing and he can't. I mean, I don't think 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.400 it's like what if we don't have him for the 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.440 next game, Like, nah, you'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, I 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.520 would agree with that, but he I mean, if they don't, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.240 he's a candidate to being active for sure. All right, 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.200 let's go ahead and jump into this this Seattle offense 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.200 that I'm Seattle defense killing me with this to all 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.800 off of my days and everything. But let's jump into 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.520 the Seattle defense. Obviously, the one thing that jumped out 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.640 to me as I was looking back at the previous 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.400 game to this game. It wasn't really I don't know 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.360 that we talked about it enough on this show, how 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.000 dominant their defense was, particularly in the first half. Catch this. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:19.200 In the first seven possessions the Cowboys had, Seattle held 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.440 them to a three and out. Now, one of those 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.320 was an interception on the third play, but five of 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.000 seven possessions they had three plays and then they got 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.640 rid of them and then Seattle took over. It's it 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.320 was a in my opinion, a pretty stifling defensive front 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.840 or defense that the Cowboys face, and the Cowboys really 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.960 didn't find any answers to it until the second half, 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.800 and that was still very marginal. Dave talked us about that, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:46.160 that Seattle defense, so well, I'm gonna sort of undermine 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.360 what you just said, but this is just my opinion. Yeah, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.840 and I don't I don't want to make excuses, but 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.640 like that, the main thing that jumps out to me 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.720 from that game, and I'll throw the Carolina game in 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.880 there is that it was just like it was off 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:05.400 offensive execution, like unbecoming of the NFL. Basically, Like it 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.199 was that it was atrocious, and it was so atrocious 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.760 that I tend to put more of it on the 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.520 Cowboys for just being bad than the Seahawks for being good, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:15.880 you know what I mean? And I felt the same 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.600 way about the Carolina game. Eight points, thirteen points, however 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.760 many three and ounce what was their third down percentage 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.040 in those games, Like those were numbers so far below 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.240 the average of what you see in the NFL that 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.640 I put more of it on the offense than the defense. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.120 And I think that's why you saw this team go 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.160 out and spend a first round pick on Amari Cooper. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.440 They're like, we cannot continue to play this way, like 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.480 it's embarrassing, for lack of a better word, like that's 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.400 what this team started out. And if you go back 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.280 and look, I know he fumbled twice. Ezekiel Elliott ran 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.160 for one hundred and twenty seven yards in that game, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.400 Like it's not like they couldn't get anything going. They 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.360 were just so unbalanced. They could not protect ac he 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.440 could not throw the ball. Oh no, I was just 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.520 you asked the question, and I have the answer. Three 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.640 of thirteen third down in that game, second worst only 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:06.280 to Carolina. Embarrassing again, like just not like you play 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.160 bad offense sometimes in the NFL. That was so bad. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.040 It's just it just was not professional football, at least 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.400 not the standard that you come to expect from NFL teams. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.480 Weird that last week's was by far the best third 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.560 down without your your you know, goal line running back. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.320 They found a tight end eleven of seventeen on third down. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:30.600 They have been so unbelievably better since they got Cooper, 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.680 and it's not all it's not all Cooper, but obviously 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.680 it has a triple down effect. Uh So I want 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.079 to start you know, I don't want to take credit 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.080 away from the Seahawks, but I kind of just basically 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.680 did you did? Yeah? No, I mean, I'm sorry, that's 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.160 but but but just to be clear, I don't think 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.680 you're saying the Seahawks defense isn't good. You're just saying 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.400 the Cowboys had as much to do with that poor 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.520 performance as absolutely and and not like oh we can't 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.000 we were shooting ourselves in the foot like no, like 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.920 you didn't have players like straight up like you couldn't 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.560 block them, you didn't have a receiver that could get open. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.319 That's Dak's picks were both volleyball to quote Nick, and 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:10.480 that's because nobody could get separation on anything in that game. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.720 So anyway, all of that said, this is a good 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.240 Seahawks defense. They're not the legion of Boom. Their middle 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.600 of the pack statistically, and I think that's you run 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.920 into a scenario where maybe the stats lie a little bit, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:28.120 like I think they're better than you know, Okay, they're 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:32.120 sixteenth overall, seventeenth against the past eleventh and scoring decent. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.520 I think they're better than that, as evidenced by things 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.280 like they have the fourth best red zone defense in 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.200 the NFL. They have a better red zone defense than 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.000 the Cowboys do, which we've been talking about how good 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.760 the Cowboys red zone defense is all year. They get 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.520 kJ They've got kJ right back, which is a big deal. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.520 They got two studle you pair him with Bobby Wagner. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.000 Right missed the first game with a knee injury. He 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.160 missed the vast majority at the season, really, but he's 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.400 been back for three weeks now. He appears to be 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.199 playing like the same guy. Who was pretty good. Um, 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.840 you've got a fourteen sack end and Frank Clark, you 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:16.360 have Tyrant Smith fits in that first game, just absolute fits. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.600 Jaren Reid is a guy. How do you do you? 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.680 Just like they? Is there a list somewhere on the 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.800 internets like these are all the king I'm just saying 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.800 all of them? Yeah, okay, coretty much. Well he's got 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:33.359 ten and a half sacks, second round pick out of Alabama. Um, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.680 he is a ball, that's you know, the first game 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.800 was in Week three. He hadn't really had a chance 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.679 to establish himself. But he is well established. And this 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.280 is this isn't the same Seahawks pass rush from years 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.960 past where they went like eight deep. But those two 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:52.360 guys concerned me specifically read because of how much trouble 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.280 we've seen these these dominant interior pass rushers give the Cowboys. Um, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.640 so this is that's a huge number two and a 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.640 half for an inside he has played. I know in 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.800 that game he played outside a little bit because there 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.000 was one sack that he got up against. He's a 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.400 he's a versatile player. He can do both, but he's 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.080 primarily played on the inside. Gotten a lot of his 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.480 push from the inside too. Um, the front is really 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.200 what concerns me here actually something to watch, uh there? 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.680 Which you know again you manage guys in the playoffs. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.240 I get that, But basically their entire secondary is on 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.520 the injury report right now. We'll see what today holds. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.000 But Shaquille Griffin their best corner and Brad McDougald their 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.120 best safety have not practiced yet this week. Didn't they 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.200 have a safety earlier this week that was put on IR. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.200 I don't know if he was a backup or special 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.000 teams guy, but I thought, I remember you mentioning that 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.160 sety that went on IR. It's not IR, guys. I 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.160 just noticed that because it usually you'll see it on 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.440 social media and then it just kind of pops into 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.160 my head. But the last time we argued about this, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.760 I was wrong. I'm not I'm not making a definitive declaration. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.120 You tried to tell Hollins was out and I was like, no, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.360 he's right here on my sheet. Um, yeah, we don't 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.120 trust that SAT anymore all the time. Tedrick Thompson is 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.880 their de facto starter with with Earl Thomas obviously being 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.240 long gone. He's at a Colorado He's on the injury 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.839 report as well. He's not on injured reserve, he's limited. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.280 He's been limited this week in practice. So the front 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.560 impresses me a lot more than the back, which is 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:27.080 obviously not the case from previous years. And any I 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.920 don't nick what you got nothing? Oh you're shaking your head? No, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.000 what is it like? There was a reason why there 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.760 was a pause there, and I wasn't even going to 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.120 look up and make eye contact with anyone, So I 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.160 thought what Dave just said was going to be one 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.040 of those moments, and I was trying to get out 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:43.800 of it. So I have no idea what you're talking of. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.360 Good implied, No, it was good. I was trying to 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.000 stay out of it. It's my fault the implier. Yes 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.360 you said it, you said it, So I was just like, oh, man, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.360 I don't even want to touch this. So I just 0:14:55.400 --> 0:15:00.320 stayed out of it. And now imagine I'm scared. I'm 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.520 scared of the red zone again. I know the Cowboys 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:11.200 had success with Blake Jarwin last weekend, but I'm concerned 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.160 if they're gonna be whether they're gonna be able to 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.720 keep this up or not and actually do it once 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.040 again in the red zone and with the other guys 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.760 in you got Zeke and all these other tools, and 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.880 also like using Dak running the ball. But like you mentioned, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.960 why were they in running defense and red zone defense? 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.720 They're allowing a touchdown forty nine percent of the time, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.960 which is fourth best in the league. Cowboys are at 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.200 fifty one. They're ranked seventh, and when the Cowboys played 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.640 them before, Cowboys with thirty three. Cowboys only scored a 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.920 touchdown on one of the three times that they were 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.600 in the red zone. One time ended up an interception. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.880 I like it at all. I think you're at and hey, 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.440 Blake Jarwin, do it again please because this could be 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.920 a big week for it. It's gonna be interesting. You know, 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.680 Jason Garrett loves to say at the Seahawk they run 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.960 you know, it's it's Chris for yards scheme. It's the 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.880 cover three scheme that has taken the league by storm 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.000 because it's been so popular in Seattle. Uh, you know, 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.120 they're they're famous for you like, we're just gonna play 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.480 our guy. We're gonna play man up. You know, we're 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.400 not gonna follow you all over the place. Although I'll 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.080 be interested to see if that happens this week. Because 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.080 Shaquille Griffin can play all over the field, did they 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.600 try to shadow him with Amari Cooper because the rest 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:27.520 of their dbs are banged up? Trays as he is 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.960 as well? Yeah, Tray well, yeah, he hasn't practiced yet. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.080 Trey Flowers is their other corner, Like they don't they 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.320 don't have the corner tandem that they're used to having. 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.640 I don't think like the strength of this secondary is 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.360 their safeties as certain. McDougall's having a great season. Obviously 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.960 when Earl was there it was better. But so I 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.680 wonder if they try to adjust that to recognize the 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.600 fact that they are injured, that maybe they can't just 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.320 play their man straight up the way they would prefer. Also, 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.880 you bring kJ right back into this thing with um 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.440 with Bobby Wagner, and now you've got two really good 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.800 linebacker who can do a little bit of everything. It's 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.840 obviously gonna make things tough in the running game, but 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.040 the short passing game too. You know, you try to 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.800 check down, which Dak loves to do with Zeke, you're 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.240 probably gonna have two guys right there. And same thing 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.480 for the tight ends. I hope Blake Jarwin can find 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.240 some similar success because I think it's going to be 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.880 tougher against these guys. I would think, though, that this 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.480 Cowboys offense with Amari Cooper is better suited to be 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.000 able to defeat a single safety high type team where 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.880 the corners aren't across the board significantly better, because one 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.480 thing we know about this offense over the last month 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.159 two months of the season is in in an offense 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.080 that's starting to find its way when it comes to 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.880 hitting some of those deep balls downfield. When you got 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.360 a single man downfield and there's one safety back, he's 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:43.960 having to choose which side he's gonna go to, and 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.320 he's gonna have to make the right read on the 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.720 quarterback to be able to know where he's going. I 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.919 think you can the Cowboys will have some opportunities. I 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.040 also like the opportunity of Amari Cooper facing man a lot. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.280 If he's facing man coverage, I don't care who it is, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.879 even if it's it's Griffin. I think that he is 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.200 good enough where he's gonna make some plays. I think 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.320 they're much better suited to take advantage of that than 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.320 they were the first time. Around one hundred percent and 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.240 that's straight up. I mean, like that's why they couldn't 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.280 do anything like they could not they could not beat 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.480 what the Seahawks wanted to do. They could not force 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.320 them to adjust, which is one why I wonder, Okay, 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.159 how are the Seahawks going to handle this or they 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.480 really they're gonna trust themselves to do that against Cooper, 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.520 maybe they will play more zone than we're you're used 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.560 to seeing. And on top of that, the other thing, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.080 at the end of the day, I don't really care, 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:28.800 because that's why you brought Amari Cooper here in the 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.359 first places. He's gonna have to make some place. This 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.880 is I don't think. I don't think you can win 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.919 this game with Amari Cooper having four catches for thirty yards. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.719 And really, I mean unless somebody else really steps up, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.240 really steps up, though, Like, no, I don't think. I mean, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.040 I think the way I look at that is if 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:51.040 a Marie Cooper forces Seattle to pay more attention to him, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.800 that creates opportunities for other guys. That's how you would 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:55.640 win it. But it has to be those other guys 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.040 stepping up. Yeah, I think it has to be other 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.720 guys stepping up. If he doesn't. Somebody is gonna have 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.560 to step up and do something greater than what they 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.879 typically do. It could be a Maria. But if they 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.240 say we're gonna take Amar away, somebody else is gonna 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.680 have to be the benefactor of that. And guess my point, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:16.719 you're right, But I don't trust Blake Jarwin or Michael 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:21.159 Gallop to Cole or Cole to blow up against this 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.520 team on this stage. Like I mean, that's one thing 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.040 against the Giants. Yeah, I haven't seen it on a 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.920 consistent enough basis. I don't think you can take away 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.800 Zeke and Mary Cooper. And if you do, then you're 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.520 not a good team, that's the hope. You're just not 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.680 a good offense. You're not. You don't have a good coordinator, 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:37.280 you don't have a good quarterback, you don't have a 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.200 good system. If you're if you get to the playoffs 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.080 and you allow a team to take away your running 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.840 game and your best receiver, especially when they're when they're 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:48.960 fourth overall picks and there and they're supposed to be 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.320 catalytic players like they are, I would agree with that. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.119 I don't think that you can take away both. I 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.720 will say this though, that's that would be if you're 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.960 a Seattle, that would be the beauty of playing single 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.560 safety high. That means you got that extra safety down 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.440 in the box that you can use to be able 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.760 to help against the run, and you can shade your 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.000 safety the safety that's deep, you can shade him till 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.639 Maury's side to hopefully keep him in check. That's my 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.399 point though. If you do that, then it's up to 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.280 the Cowboys to figure out. Now, if they're gonna play 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.600 that way, how much can Beasley can get single? How 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.000 much can Cooper beat you in man coverage? How much 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.119 can dact because they're playing man coverage now, take some 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.400 of those runs because everybody is preoccupied with the guy 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.320 that they're holding, that they're trying to that they're trying 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.159 to keep up with. How much can he turn that 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.880 into a fifteen twenty yard rundown feel scramble? Right? That's 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.200 where I think that again, if the Cowboys, if everything 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.199 works out for the Cowboys playing against this kind of defense, 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.639 I think they can actually do something this type of defense. 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.760 I'm I'm fascinated to see how this running battle shakes out, 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:52.520 because we already I mean, Wagner's Wagner and kJ writes back, 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.320 and he appears to be playing like his old self. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.719 And we talked about their defensive line. It seems like 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.240 they should be well equipped to limit the Dallas run game, 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.280 but they are given up one hundred and thirteen yards 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.280 per game, which is so so And we've already seen 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.440 Zeke actually like he had a really good day against 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.320 this team if he doesn't turn the ball over, if 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.560 he doesn't step out of bounds. It was a mentally 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:20.320 weird day for him. Like, yeah, it just seemed like 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.560 he was off. That it was a game unlike any 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.280 we've ever seen from him before, Like he just he 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.760 put balls on the deck way like twice as often 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.399 as he normally does. He stepped out of bounds on 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.119 what would have been a touchdown. I've completely forgot about 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.280 that until we started getting into this thing this week. That, yeah, 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.520 it was weird. I think after that game, Nick phrased 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.159 it as like he played his best game in his 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:45.919 worst game at the same time. Yeah, like it was 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.840 one of his worst games as a pro, in which 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.840 he also really had a nice outing. So we've seen 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.000 him do it before, can you do it again? I mean, 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:59.159 and it's simplistic legs are rested up. It all. It 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.520 all comes down to that for me. All right, Look, 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.480 but you know dak is averaging two hundred and seventy 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.840 four yards per game since Cooper got here to seventy 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.080 four to seventy four. Receiver makes a difference, not bad, right, 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.880 but the receiver matters, the catcher matters. I don't think 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:18.280 he's throwing. He's not throwing the stop. He's not throwing 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.880 the Cowboys to a win on this defense, I don't think. 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.080 And they're not. They're not this jugger not But they've 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.120 been here before and like a lot of those guys 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:27.640 are gone, but a lot of them are still here. 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:29.800 I mean, Wagner and Wright were there for the whole thing, 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:33.880 like they get it, So I think Seek needs to 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:35.720 be there. All right, We're gonna take our first break 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.680 when we come back. 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The Cowboys did 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.360 when they named John Deer their official tractor experience one 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.200 for yourself. If this is my John dear Dealer dot 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:19.400 com slash Football. Back to the Break, Welcome back. This 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.280 is the second segment of The Break live from the 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:25.200 SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star, talking Cowboys and Seahawks. 0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:26.800 Here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna go through a 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:30.280 list of observations from the first matchup in Week three, 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.720 verses the Cowboys versus and the Seahawks, and some of 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.199 them it's pretty apparent there will be a difference. But 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.000 I want you to tell me, if there is a difference, 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:40.959 how much you think that difference will matter, or if 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:42.240 it's not going to be a difference, and so you 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.080 don't think it's gonna make much of a difference, all right, 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.639 So let's start with the first one. In that game, 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.080 as Dave alluded to, the passing game for the Cowboys 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.480 was very It was really not that good. Of course, 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.680 Amari Cooper was not a part of the team. Prescott 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.800 went nineteen to thirty four, fifty six percent completion rate, 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.280 one hundred and sixty eight yards, one touchdown, twoptions, and 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.040 then a fifty four point five quarterback rating. And by 0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.040 the way, that touchdown was a fricking handle. It was 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.040 basically what it was was It was a it was 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:11.120 what Actually one of our callers mentioned this a couple 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.680 of weeks ago. He talked about how in the red zone, 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.639 maybe the Cowboys should think about a shovel pass to Tavon. 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:18.679 That's exactly what it was in that game. That was 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.879 their only touchdown was a shovel pass to Tavon. I 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.640 think they were at the three, I want to say, 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.760 and he gets into the end zone. Exactly what Tavon 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:30.119 could theoretically bring to this offense, not what he has 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.159 brought to this offense. It's actually the only touchdown the 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.280 Dallas Cowboys have scored against the Seattle Seahawks in the 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.320 last three meetings. Wow, so you don't know that that's 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:44.159 they did not score a touchdown last year? Field goal fest, 0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:49.520 Dez drop fest, ugly, ugly, ugly, and then twenty fifteen 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:54.240 four field goals, Greg Hardy picked off Russell Wilson. Terrible, 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.959 terrible game. So much so, how much of a difference 0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.200 do you think of Marii Cooper makes in this game? 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.639 A big difference. I mean, go, I'm looking at the 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.479 snap count for the receivers in the first game, and 0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.960 I mean, Alan Hearns had forty one snaps. Last week 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:11.680 he only had ten against the Giants. And I did 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.480 have a nice catch, but only you know, and Deontay 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:19.280 Thompson remember him twenty eight, Terrence Williams ten and guys 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.880 that aren't doing anything. They're not playing any kind of football. 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.880 Hearns sort of is. But but those three guys right there, 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.120 he's not playing. He had ten snaps. I'm just saying, 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.560 that's how big difference it is, Michael gall that's from 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.760 the standpoint of how they they literally they have shrunk 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.440 this this rotation at the wide receiver not trying, yeah, 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:42.480 exactly excitements, but love that Kurt is a drop. They 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:48.560 so literally they started the season with receivers that they 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:53.040 have gotten rid of or down literally you know, quite literally, 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.679 like they were like, we can these guys can start, 0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.520 and then by week six it was like these guys 0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.760 can't start right, And so that's where guys don't even 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.280 need to be here, that's where that's where we are in. 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.480 So I think that Cooper not only is a difference 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.280 maker on offense, we've seen that. I think Michael Gallup 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.919 is a different receiver as well. I think the combination 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:14.560 of those two guys and the it's a little mensition, 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.439 a subtraction of one Earl Thomas, it makes that whole 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.600 passing game going on the list, Oh, I think it 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.720 will make. It makes a difference because he is a 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:29.680 wide receiver that can definitely get open or it's so 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.320 good that he demands double teams that should theoretically help 0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:38.480 other guys get open, and it's just it's Earl Thomas 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:43.520 not being on the team that actually on the list. Okay, no, 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:48.040 I just said that Cooper just solidified the whole wide 0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.440 receiver position. And like they mentioned just now, back then, 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.200 that's when the Cowboys still had a whole mess with 0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.200 the wide receiver. They don't know what that we're doing, 0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:00.480 just rotating everyone now, and that that was a problem 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.840 because you don't really by not giving so many opportunities 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.400 to one guy, they don't really have the chance to 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.440 kind of light up and get going. So it changes 0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.840 everything not only for Cooper, but for the other white 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.280 receivers as well. Okay, Zolan else see the name or 0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.200 hear the name Cooper and just think Cooper Rush. I 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.680 used to not anymore. I need to like even a 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.320 little bit Jonathan Cooper. That's who I think of. No, 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:30.000 I like Cooper, Yeah, from Amari Cooper. I mean, you 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.720 don't walk through I got to catch a flight later 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.120 today and I'm going to walk through DFW Airport and 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.360 there's not gonna be a ton of Cooper Rush jersey's 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:38.800 hanging in the store. So there's gonna be a ton 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.600 of Amari Cooper jerseys. Not my point. I'm not saying 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.240 who's more significant. I'm just saying I still think of 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.080 when I hear Cooper. I don't think of Amari guy 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:48.920 because I say it most of the time, you just 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.080 say it as one am Mark Cooper, Mark Cooper. But 0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:56.760 I just think Cooper. I'm thinking Cooper Rush or Jonathan Cooper, 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:01.360 Winnie Cooper, Mari Cooper, I'mari Cooper. So Nick, you did 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.800 mention Earl Thomas, So let's flip over to Earl Thomas. 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.520 And yes, obviously Earl Thomas makes a difference. My question 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.840 would be, though, and goes back to what Dave was 0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.560 saying earlier in the show, the secondary is not the 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.080 strength of this defense. They've been doing it this year 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:15.960 mainly with the fact that they have a good pass rush, 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.800 They've got good guys down in the strenches, and their 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.160 linebackers are really good. That being said, how much is 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.960 a difference does he make in a defense where that's 0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.960 not really the best of what? Okay, here's what. To me, 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:31.480 the difference will be that, for some reason is extremely 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.120 lucky with defensive backs and linebackers who can't catch his passes. 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.280 I mean, there should have been at least four or 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.440 five more interceptions, three or four more pick sixes this 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:44.120 year because he's thrown it right to people bad reads 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.800 and he's been lucky in the sense that they've dropped 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.240 it and Earl Thomas didn't. Earl Thomas caught one off 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.320 a shoelace Earl Thomas caught ball that was deflected four 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:58.480 times by Jarwin, So he's not there to catch those 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.360 passes which other people to not catch. Which it is 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.680 a valid question. I'm not trying to make fun of you, Derek, 0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:06.600 but like, yeah, it's gonna make a difference that a 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.640 generational talent is not in Seattle's secondary. Yes, I think 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.640 that's fair to say. My question, though, was how much 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.000 of a difference? Is this a situation where do you 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:15.640 think it Well, I'm just saying, do you think that 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.600 this is a defense that goes from being one that 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:19.880 you just say, hey, I don't know that we can 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.760 really pass very effect can expect to pass effectively against 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.640 with him back there to one that I think we 0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:29.560 got opportunities when without him. That's my point, how much 0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.400 of a difference. I know that he makes a difference. 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.200 We all agree with it, like we all agree that 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.280 he's that he makes a difference for their team, But 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.080 their defense has played well without him most of the year. 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.400 That's no, and there's still a good defense. And that 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.640 was the point I made, is all right, Dak Prescott 0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.920 is not passing them to a victory. I don't think 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.720 like you're gonna need balance, You're gonna need the run game. 0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.120 So a difference, but just you know, they they have 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.520 not fallen apart without him, but still a difference. Okay, 0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.959 let's move on. Let's talk about Zeke Elliott. That in 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.640 that game, they obviously ran the ball signific fickantly well. 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.280 Zeke had sixteen karas f one hundred and twenty seven 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.160 yard seven point nine average, did have the mistakes. Do 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.959 you think that we will see a different za, different 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.240 Zeke this week? Do you think that with the addition 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.360 of a guy like kJ Wright, maybe the running game 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.960 isn't as effective as it was when they were in Seattle. 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.840 I think you've got a better chance to have a 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.400 more focused Ezekiel Elliott than he was in that game. 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.280 And we're not talking like he was you know, space 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.640 Mountain here. I mean just he's stepped his foot, stepped 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.959 out of bounds. I mean, you know that he doesn't 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:33.920 normally make a play like that, and he normally doesn't 0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.720 fumble either. You know, he had a chance to score 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.400 another field goal or touchdown there on that drive. So 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.880 I think he will just be a better player than 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.320 he was, and he was pretty good that day. I 0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.480 agree with you. The combination of probably Connor Williams at 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.240 left guard and then kJ Wright also being there worries me. 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.560 It definitely worries me. And that's why I think it's 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.760 gonna be. I think that's like the story of the game. 0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.720 And Connor, I mean, was playing in that game. And 0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.040 again I'm all for Suafila trying to that's a really 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.760 good will to fread this thing out and maybe play. 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:07.680 But I know you're right, Connor was in there. They 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.920 ran for one hundred and twenty seven yards. I think 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:14.480 he's better. Yeah, I would hope. I would hope every 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.120 player is better in Week eighteen than they were in 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.960 Week three, especially a rookie. Um that's it's still dead. 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.600 That's gonna be the other thing too, Remember that was 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.320 that up until Indy. That was their biggest deficit of 0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.000 the season. And your running back's not going to factor 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:32.880 as much in the fourth quarter when you're down twenty 0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.760 four to six. So here's the thing. Hopefully they don't 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:37.560 let that happen and he can have a role in 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.120 the second half. Sick almost always has a good game. 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.640 Like some are more noticeable than others. Some it's just 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.400 one of those that they stop him in a few yards, 0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.280 but then at the end of the game, those yards 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.240 just all add up and he's still a good game 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.560 for Szik So as far as him and especially after 0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:01.360 being rested and he the energy there, the focus is there, 0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.320 So I have no doubt that he's gonna be good 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.120 and he's gonna be able to do something for you, 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.440 whatever that is. He's gonna do something in like twenty 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:13.760 it's a great point in twenty nine NFL cities. 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She's like really, I was like, 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.279 well that's I just got him. I got him. Yeah, 0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.160 I got him for free. But okay, yeah I get it. 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.880 So yeah, can be a little bit be proud, be 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.359 proud of wearing Cowboys on you and especially that area. Yeah, 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:09.640 well just saying I wear him shorts. Go get the 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:15.600 mail bams. Kidding? Okay, interesting neighborhood is all right, let's 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.399 get back into this. I had some more observations from 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:18.560 the game. I want you guys to tell me how 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.040 much of a difference or how much you think they 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.880 will be different and how much of a difference they 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.719 would make in this game. Zeke in that game only 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.000 had three catches for eleven yards and one thing that 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:28.719 you would notice on the second half of the year, 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.319 Cowboys have been very much have been a lot more 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.319 intentional about getting him involved in the passing game. Do 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:35.880 you think that will be a difference this week? And 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.400 how much of a difference does it make in the 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.000 Cowboys being able to win? Well, he was very involved. 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.799 He actually could have had a lot more involvement there 0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.040 if you wouldn't have stepped out of bounds. That they 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.200 actually had eight targets in that game. They just weren't 0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.200 connecting for whatever, you know, what I'm gonna go look 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.239 at that if it's hard to think about now, the 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.239 dude basically has eighty catches. But like we talked about, 0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.560 he was not part of the passing game. W he was, 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.480 it was one yard in front of the line of 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.120 scrimmage with his back turned. And for the record, I 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.440 still think they could utilize him more creatively as a 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.840 receiver down the field, but it's hard to argue with 0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.360 the results. Yeah, he's a checkdown machine, but he turns 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:18.799 those checkdowns into four or six, eight, ten yards, And yeah, 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.000 I think he's gonna I think it's definitely gonna be 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.040 a role because Dak is probably gonna have to check 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.399 it down. He's gonna need safe places to throw the ball. 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.839 The big boys have kind of lowered it down as 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:35.120 far as passing game and his involvement later in the season. No, no, 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.040 I'm about to give you a sat that you're not 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.120 gonna like, give me a stat hit me all right? 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.360 Before Cooper got here, twenty five catches for Zeke. I 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.200 don't really have the targets here, but what twenty five 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:50.440 catches and then since then in the last eight games, 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.839 fifty two catches, So doubles in the last and yeah, 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:55.839 I mean down the stretch. These are the last eight 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.680 games just in catches five seven twelve six five seven 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.480 six four. That's all with Cooper there. So why does 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.879 it feel like it's gone down? Though it doesn't to me, 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.960 actually using him a lot in the passing game, but 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.719 I don't know. To me felt like at the beginning 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.040 of the season they were using him a lot more. 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.440 Maybe there were more mistakes and maybe that's why I 0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.959 noticed it a lot more. Well, another theory I would 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.520 suggest is I think it's definitely fair to say he 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.680 made more big plays in the passing game in the 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.799 first half of the season. Detroit comes to mind. He 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.200 scored on a screen against who was who would that 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.600 have been? Touchdown? He had touchdown against Detroit, touchdown against 0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.960 at at Philly, and a touchdown. These are catches you 0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.799 touch at Philly and then New Orleans he caught. Yeah, 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.640 so well no, so that's not even completely true. It 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.279 felt he had big plays. He hasn't made as many 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.200 big plays since Thanksgiving in my opinion, meaning like touchdowns 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.600 or thirty yard games. But that's but go look at Atlanta. 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.360 I don't think he had a reception over nine yards 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.680 in that game. But he just was consistently there, consistently 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.799 moving the chains, and it might not be pretty, but 0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.920 it's certainly important, Bill that you point out. I was 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:09.719 just pointing out that he had a thirty four yard 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.719 or against Atlanta, but I kind of wanted Dave to 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.160 just go with it. Yeah, oh, back down near the 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.879 goal line, right either most of him. I remember, thirty 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.280 four yard catch? How many? Yeah, it was a screen 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.320 and he took it down into the red zone and 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.480 they probably didn't score if I did it because Beasley 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.880 dropped it right first drive of the game. Oh yeah. 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.600 How many catches did he have in that game? Seven 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:29.799 for seventy nine. Yeah, So that's what I'm saying, Like, 0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:31.800 that's what they were doing in the latter part of 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.480 the year when they were actually having a success in 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.319 that little winning streak. I thought they got him very 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.120 much involved in the passing game and he was making 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.479 a difference. And that's what I've been waiting for since 0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.040 obviously really since the time that they drafted him, because 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:44.840 when they drafted him, that's one of the benefits that 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.200 actually I do well, I don't have his I don't 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.600 have his target tallies from September. But I know over 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.920 the second half of the or no month of December, 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.480 he's second behind Cooper on the team in targets. You 0:42:55.520 --> 0:43:02.360 know who's third, Carlin Blake Darwin and targets, targets, targets. 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:07.200 How about that? You know what the apples Darwin's um. 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.759 Darwin's stats look a lot like Jason Witten's rookie year. 0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.480 He caught thirty five passes his rookie year and I believe, 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.279 I believe twenty eight or of making a lot of 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:22.040 comparison between those two lately. Did he break his jaw 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:26.760 at any point? Not yet? Oh God, Jarwin, not trying 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.759 to try. Jacket Jarwin? Is that world jacket jars? Oh 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:35.160 gold jack gold jacket Blake, We're there yet, stop it? 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:39.920 Oh no, you can't compare Wit his Witten number one, 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.080 never had three touchdowns in the game, and he's never 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:46.480 one Player of the Week exactly. Yes, get out of here, 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:50.879 just over here, Slandering, one of the greatest players. We're 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.360 almost at being the show. But I did want to 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.080 at least get this one in obviously that last but 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:59.120 her why because I'm something that Jason did to him? 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:05.880 I won't say it on He's just buy her her. 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.680 We have see Actually, y'all have another show tomorrow. I don't. 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:11.640 That's why I'm like, we need to talk about the game. 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.200 But y'allre like now, no, no, no, I'll just I'll 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.080 text y'all my prediction tomorrow. Okay, So notice he's not 0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:22.319 gonna call in. Yeah no, no, four sheets, not no, 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.200 not at eleven. I'll probably be hungover if I had guess. 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.680 That's twice this week. Man, what can I say? It's 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:36.200 this whole side of the table, the youths of today. 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.239 We're gonna go in the show tomorrow. We will get 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.280 to that final question of how much the venue matters. 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.480 Last time they were in Seattle, it matters a lot. 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.399 The Seahawks haven't beaten somebody with a winning record all 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.279 year on the road, Thanks Dave, Cowboys. Only loss at 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.000 home is to a team with a winning record. That 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.360 a playoff. You want to be on the show tomorrow. 0:44:56.120 --> 0:45:01.279 I'm just trying to fit as much stuff, h It's important. 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.439 The seahawks earner is good on the road. They lost 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.120 to the forty nine ers on the road two weeks ago, 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.560 oh four and twelfth, San Francisco. All right, it's important. 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.439 We appreciate you, guys, John Us. We'll be back tomorrow 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.880 for Nick Keaton, Dave Helm and Progressie. I'm Derek Eagleton. 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.239 This has been to break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:20.840 Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.520 dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.