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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camera Judge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and

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Speaker 2: Abroad with myself, Tamra Judge, and Dolores Catanya. Hi, Dolores,

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Speaker 2: you look revved up today.

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Speaker 3: I am so revved up because you know I watched

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Speaker 3: the episodes before we come on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, so you just watched it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just watched it.

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Speaker 2: I watched it last night.

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Speaker 3: A little while ago. I watched it. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm not okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm not okay either. And we'll get into that. But

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Speaker 2: first we have some headlines that actually include some of

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Speaker 2: the Salt Lake Girls. One is Heather Gay. Heather Gay

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Speaker 2: has a new show come out, a Secret, The Real

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Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormons. This kind of scares me for her,

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Speaker 2: like if she's exposing. So it's a three three episode series.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna air on Bravo The Real Houses of Salt

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Speaker 2: Lake City. Heather Gay is diving deeper into her Mormon

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Speaker 2: roots with a new limited series Bravo And now to

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Speaker 2: the three part series Surviving Mormonism with Heather Gay, giving

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Speaker 2: fans a first look at Gay's journey to uncovering the

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Speaker 2: darker side of the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter

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Speaker 2: day Saints. I just feel like sometimes these churches like you,

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Speaker 2: like you remember, I mean, it's still around its scientology,

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Speaker 2: and then you had Leah. Was it remedy remedy or

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Speaker 2: whatever the lesson she uncovered? Like, I just feel like,

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Speaker 2: is her safety? Okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. A lot of these people and their

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Speaker 3: difference with their religions that they were raised with have

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Speaker 3: been coming out more and more, and they're very rebellious.

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Speaker 3: And I can't imagine that the people that run these churches.

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Speaker 2: Are very happy. Okay, Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she I don't. I don't think they

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Speaker 3: seem to. I don't know much about their religion, do you.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I actually grew up with a

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Speaker 2: friend Kim Webb. She lived past three from me. Were

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Speaker 2: friends for years and years, and I used to go

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Speaker 2: She was Mormon, and I used to go to church

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Speaker 2: with her once in a while. So that's the only

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Speaker 2: thing I know. But I was so young. But Heather

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Speaker 2: is seen sitting down with former members of the LDS Church,

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Speaker 2: including a man who tells her, I spent my life

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Speaker 2: being someone I wasn't. Another woman revealed my earliest memories

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Speaker 2: are of abuse. So they're uncovering abuse and things like

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Speaker 2: that that's happened. I'm assuming from you know what we've

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Speaker 2: heard in the and the headlines have come out, it's

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Speaker 2: three parts, like I said, Premiere's November eleventh on Bravo. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so she's going to expose the secrets that have been

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Speaker 2: kept behind closed doors. I thought that's what her book

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Speaker 3: No, the other one.

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Speaker 2: She has a couple of books, has a couple of books.

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Speaker 3: Listen, cheats a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, she does. She does, she they.

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Speaker 3: They do. She gets, she gets a lot, and I'm

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Speaker 3: happy for her about that, of course, you know, but listen,

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Speaker 3: it's getting harder. We haven't been on it a long

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Speaker 3: time now. Camera and all the shows are really doing.

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Speaker 2: Well, and.

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Speaker 3: When we do come back, it's not going to be

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Speaker 3: easy to catch up. I'm just saying, I think I'm right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think that. No, I think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the originals are going to bring it. I

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Speaker 2: think that time Away is going to show where certain

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Speaker 2: people have if they're even returning, I don't know. We

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Speaker 2: don't know who the cast is, yet we don't. I

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Speaker 2: think what would be hard for you is to return

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Speaker 2: to a cast where most of them are new and

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Speaker 2: you don't want to know much about them, because you

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Speaker 2: face it like it takes years to get to know someone.

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Speaker 3: It does, and to establish relationships and history. And even

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Speaker 3: the drama Salt Lake City was on the balls of

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Speaker 3: their ass. They were not doing well and they made

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Speaker 3: a good turnaround because of the build up of the

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Speaker 3: things that started to happen. You know, you establish relationships

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Speaker 3: right and then and then all this stuff happens. And

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Speaker 2: I miss Monica. I miss her.

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Speaker 3: She was a good housewife.

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Speaker 2: She's not say she's a good housewife. She did something

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Speaker 2: a situation. I'm just speculating, but I think it's a

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Speaker 2: this is an ensemble cast. Fucking deal with it and

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Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out and next season, then get

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Speaker 3: Well they're lucky they got rid of somebody who brought

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Speaker 3: it and they still survived and did even they did

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Speaker 3: really well they're doing. This is a great season, I

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Speaker 3: have to say. And there's a lot going on and

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Speaker 3: a lot to unpack, which.

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Speaker 2: There's a certain Yeah, there's a certain something that's going

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about it in a minute. We have

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Speaker 2: a few more headlines now, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Kelly

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Speaker 2: Ferrell's ex. We've talked about this before. He is suing

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Speaker 2: Bravo for defamation over abuse allegations, and he wants two

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars according to TMZ.

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Speaker 3: Sorryuous whatever. You could try to fight NBC, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about this Mark Klain, because Mark

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Speaker 2: claims Kelly spread lies on the show in a fabricated

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Speaker 2: back the money. Now, unless there's the receipts or he

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Speaker 2: a tough one. Well, he's got a case. He says

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Speaker 2: that he and Kelly jointly applied for a four hundred

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Speaker 2: to build out a restaurant called Nana's Chicken and Waffles.

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Speaker 2: He says Kelly spent a bunch of the loan money

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Speaker 2: on her birthday and any and other unauthorized expenses, then

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Speaker 2: fabricated a story that he stole the money from her.

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Speaker 3: So four hundred and twenty thousand dollars is not easy

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Speaker 2: On a birthday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, No, he said she runs a yacht. I mean,

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Speaker 2: But he says he repaid the loan, but she still

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Speaker 2: pressing forward with the false claims that he stole the money.

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Speaker 2: According to Mark, cast members talked about him on the show,

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Speaker 2: saying he's a criminal, an abuser, and a fraud.

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Speaker 3: Well, she has a restraining order, she has a bodyguard,

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Speaker 3: she has a lot of things. We all know there's

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Speaker 3: two sides to every story.

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Speaker 2: But Mark claims the show producers continue to broadcast the

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Speaker 2: allegations despite knowing they were false. He says, I doubt

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Speaker 2: that any producer is going to broadcast anything knowing it's false.

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Speaker 2: So in order for.

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Speaker 3: Them, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I would think that these type of allegations are

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Speaker 2: slander if they're not true.

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Speaker 3: Add slander, says.

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Speaker 2: He says he has damaged his personal and professional reputation

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Speaker 2: at the tune of one hundred million dollars. One hundred

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Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: He also wants to start with these numbers, get the

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Speaker 2: I mean, theseumers are crazy. He also wants the court

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Speaker 2: to dole out the additional one hundred million in punitive

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Speaker 2: damage to Spin to send a message to the network,

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Speaker 2: bringing a total to a whopping two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Is what Kelly's ex wants.

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Speaker 3: Kelly zachs, please stop playing with yourself. Okay, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: What kelly'sax was never on the show, right, He never

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Speaker 2: signed as, never signed a release.

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Speaker 3: Never on the show. And she must have full custody

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Speaker 3: for her to have had the kids on the show

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Speaker 2: That's that was going to be my next question, because

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Speaker 2: Kelly hires co star Phedra to repent her in court.

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Speaker 3: These girls are spending so much money on attorneys Phaedra.

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Speaker 3: I would hire Faedra to represent me for anything. I

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Speaker 3: know she's a very good attorney. But what is her specialty?

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Speaker 3: Is her specialty divorced family law?

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Speaker 2: I personally would probably not. I think it's a conflict

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Speaker 3: Entertainment attorney, So I don't know if Fedra is family

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Speaker 2: Who knows Cherre's X represented himself.

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Speaker 3: They're going on to season seventeen. That was a long

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Speaker 3: long time ago, so listen. I hope she gets better result.

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Speaker 2: Well. Kelly filing an emergency petition after her ex husband

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Speaker 2: allegedly interfered with their kids filming. Kelly said she was

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Speaker 2: granted the authority to make decisions related to the kids' education,

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Speaker 2: certain healthcare, religious upbringing and so. But that's different than filming.

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Speaker 2: That's different than filming.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's been my experience that both parents have to sign

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Speaker 2: in order for the kids to film. Now, there might

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Speaker 2: be a loophole that he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Have if he had does not have zeroal custody, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: she has to have full custody. If he has joint custody,

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Speaker 3: whether he sees them or not. Legally, if he has

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Speaker 3: joint custody, he has to sign office to sign.

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Speaker 2: In her lines.

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Speaker 3: Problem. Yeah, but I think production would have done their

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Speaker 2: One oh one.

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Speaker 3: And I know a lot of girls who didn't get

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Speaker 3: this job because their husbands wouldn't sign off on their

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Speaker 3: kids and they were going through divorce.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I was pretty fortunate. I started the show

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Speaker 2: with my ex my kids were on the show, but

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Speaker 2: as soon as we got divorced, he would no longer

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Speaker 2: allow the kids to film. But they kept me anyways.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I even asked, like, could you film

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Speaker 2: them from behind? Can you not show their face? And

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Speaker 2: they're said, no, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: They are. They are very strict with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and her finally Kelly said she was allowed their

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Speaker 2: children to film. Mark has objected, created confusion and prompting

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Speaker 2: the network to demand judicial clarification before continuing to film

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Speaker 2: with the children.

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing. He wasn't there. He didn't visit

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Speaker 3: Maybe you have the word you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: My daughter was bullied. She was bullied bad. And my

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Speaker 3: That's not our idea of bullying. Okay, that's all I'm

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Speaker 2: Do it. Bullying's a strong word, yes, fair enough, yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you, Bronwin, I mean, and Alici said

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Speaker 3: When she's not with him, she's awesome. She's who knows,

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Speaker 3: No, Guys like him who make a fuck ton of money,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking.

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Speaker 3: You know, Whitney's marriage has been not great? Who else? Well,

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Speaker 2: No, No, And I appreciate that she's open about it.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't really talk about him, we don't see him.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I thought they were separated.

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Speaker 2: Mary.

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Speaker 3: I ain't picking a fight with you. I love Mary.

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Speaker 2: He does not want to pick a fight with Mary.

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Speaker 3: He hates the show the husband.

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Speaker 3: Not everybody gets away with not having their husband or

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Speaker 2: And we also know not everything shown, not everything. Like

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Speaker 3: Now, the story with the psychic, and there isn't a

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Speaker 2: Guys normally guys think like any kind of psychic is bullshit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Is he really good.

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Speaker 2: He's really good, and he's usually ninety nine percent correct.

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Speaker 2: we want to have him on the show, on the podcast,

440
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: so maybe, Yep, we're gonna do it.

441
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it. Okay, fine, So.

442
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: So we just said, you know, Lisa talking with John,

443
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: He's just like, Okay.

444
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: Listen, this guy's kind of I'm worried about them in

445
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: their marriage. I think that they better reel it in

446
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: before the snowballs. I've seen this before. There's definitely a distance.

447
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: She's upset, and you know, you have to also look

448
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: at this also, like Lisa's saying a lot of things,

449
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: Lisa's fighting with a lot of people. But you also

450
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: let's look past what we see and look at the

451
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: fact that Lisa it's got a lot going on at home, clearly.

452
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: And Lisa's been married a long time. And even though

453
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: like these lawsuits, I don't know if they're all dismissed,

454
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. That's extremely stressful, and

455
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: how people deal with stress is very different for me personally.

456
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: I shut down. I completely shut down. I don't care

457
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: if someone's coming after me. I get emotional and I

458
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: just want to walk away. And that's what I did

459
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: all season long, rightfully, So I didn't know what was

460
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: going on with Teddy. You know when people are like, oh,

461
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: you're going to use it, well, you know what fucker

462
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: if God forbid, somebody extremely close to you gets so

463
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: sick like that, You tell me how you're gonna film,

464
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: You tell me how you're going to get your ass

465
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: up every single day work, then go film a show.

466
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: Right, I love you, And the same goes for. You know,

467
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: being sick is much worse than fighting with your husband,

468
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: but the same goes for It's all relative, like you're

469
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: behind closed doors, your your marriage is falling apart, your

470
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: marriage with your kids.

471
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: Ah, there's a lot of reasons why it's not easy.

472
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: It's not everybody deals with stuff the way they should.

473
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: But John says they aren't on the same page, and

474
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: she's like, so why don't we talk? And he goes

475
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: because you won't listen anyway, Well, did Lisa?

476
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: Did you hear her him start to talk? And she

477
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: talked right over him and he just sat there and

478
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: shook his head and.

479
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm done. Lisa, Lisa, I like your marriage.

480
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: I think you should start listening or try to the

481
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: guys saying you're not listening to what I'm saying. Maybe

482
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: in the past she has and she's over it. I

483
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: don't know, but she seems to be upset over the

484
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: state of their marriage, so I want her. I don't

485
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: want her to lose it if she wants to stay together.

486
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that's what she's upset about. We've seen

487
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: Lisa on defense mode all season long.

488
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: Now.

489
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: You have to remember the very first episode she was

490
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: not in and all they did was talk about these

491
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: lawsuits against her. So she comes in to all this

492
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: bullshit about this guy's suing you and you're using his

493
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: card and you're doing this. So she's coming from a

494
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: place of defense, and maybe things aren't great at home.

495
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: Who knows. They're obviously having communication problems. I don't think

496
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: it's like they're ready for divorce or anything like that.

497
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal. Do

498
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: something great. I just think John's just tired of not

499
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: getting a word in right. I don't know. Maybe we're

500
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: gonna find out more.

501
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: I can see how someone would be tired of not

502
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: getting a word in. Yeah, if that's the case, but yeah,

503
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: it's never just that. There's so much more. I'm sure.

504
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: Well you know you know who's never short of getting

505
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: words in.

506
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: Mary?

507
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: All of them, well all of them but Mary. Mary

508
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: like her words are so cutting and so funny and

509
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: sometimes kind of mean. When Mary goes to Ange to talk,

510
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: I mean, she like, oh, you're answering the door. Usually

511
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: I have to let myself in. Oh here I and

512
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: she's like, here, I got you a drink, but it's

513
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: not low calorie. I wouldn't drink that. You shouldn't drink

514
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: it either, like oh my god, TV Gold.

515
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: Yes, if Mary's mob name would be Mary TV Gold.

516
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: To me, she is oinionated.

517
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: She's not mean, Okay, yes, okay. Sometimes there's a fine

518
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: line between being overly opinionated and mean. It could have

519
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: been like, oh, thank you so much for that, but

520
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: I only drink.

521
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: She doesn't have a filter. She has doesn't have a filter.

522
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: I'll never drink that. Joe's Sugar's a net.

523
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: Like oh, or I'll handle hers so well. But you

524
00:29:52,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: know this talk with her and Angie, Wow, she she shoot?

525
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: Does she remind you of Vicky? I mean, Vicky's pretty opinionated,

526
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: but I think that, uh, I think that Mary, I

527
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: think she wins.

528
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: I really don't think Mary wins the gold. As far

529
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: as i'm turns, I'm concerned. But there's parts of me

530
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: that really understand Mary. And it goes back to her

531
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: childhood and she's very open about it, and she's like

532
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: the behavior of Angie being so violent and throwing things

533
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: and blind anger. She goes that triggers me, and that's

534
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: that I can't be around that. I get that, I Mary,

535
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: I understand you.

536
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: You know what, It's so funny they say that because

537
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: I understand Heather debro more after seeing that scene, because

538
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: Heather started a conversation about her father being very like

539
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: getting mad and getting explosive, and at the time I

540
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: just thought like, oh okay, I didn't know, like, oh

541
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: were you're saying, I'm that way and I trigger you.

542
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: So you know, it's all about what happens in your

543
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: past and all the trauma that has created, and that

544
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: is how you deal with the things that come your way.

545
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: So I gotta believe just the little things that Mary

546
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: has told us, she went through a lot as a child.

547
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: And I understand. I absolutely understand her. I think she's

548
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: very honest. I think she's very vulnerable at times. And

549
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: when she was talking about how she feels about Angie, like,

550
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: this was a really emotional episode for a lot of reasons.

551
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: And if it get me to the point I got

552
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: out when I was watching it, it's good. So when

553
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: she was saying, listen, I love hard when I finally

554
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: let somebody in and I've really let Angie in that

555
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: special place, I don't know why. I don't know what

556
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: it was about Angie that that she got to that

557
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: part and her Auntie's very smart. Angie's real Angie, I

558
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: want to say, is one of the smarter ones on

559
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: this cast, believe it or not, Like she's like there's

560
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: a I think they're all smart, and they're very you know,

561
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Merrediths is educated, and there's a lot but Anne.

562
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 2: Heather, Heather Gay is very intelligent.

563
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: Very intelligent Heather Gay, and she's a different level smart

564
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: Angie street smart and super streets.

565
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: And sometimes that gets you farther.

566
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: And she got she got to that place with Mary

567
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: and she's there and Mary's like, I love like Harry,

568
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: Mary speak about how much she loves Angie. Was I

569
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: was a little bit surprised, but I also know, like Anngie,

570
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: don't cross her because if she's here with you and

571
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: you cross her, you're you're in trouble.

572
00:32:48,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you know, Mary uses that word bully.

573
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: She says that Angie is supposed to be a sister,

574
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: but she isn't. She says she's becoming a bully. And

575
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: I just have a hard time with that word. And housewives,

576
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: you know, we all reused did and it's we all

577
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: at one point or time get upset with each other.

578
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: You know, it takes me back to you know, you

579
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: and Margaret are great friends. But there was a scene

580
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: where she said you were there and you like you

581
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: lost it, Yeah, lost it because you're like, no, I

582
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: wasn't and you like you you lost it, and and

583
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: that that's what happens on these shows. It doesn't mean

584
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: you're a bully.

585
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: No, it built It was a build up. Also, these

586
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: shows are build ups, and like you said when we

587
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: first started today, you said that it's really hard to

588
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: start with the new cast because the build ups are

589
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: what people watch, right.

590
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Because yeah, there's no history with you, there's no build.

591
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: Up, there's no build up, there's no history. We're starting

592
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: from scratch, which the flatulence. Mary talking about farting. I

593
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: Angie treated her when she farted. Now did I miss it?

594
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: Did she come onto the scene and fart and go, oh, sorry,

595
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: I farted like I heard it like.

596
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: She basically said that she had gased. She goes, I

597
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: don't know why I have so much gas? And then

598
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: and then you know, she's like, okay, maybe you should

599
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: sit over there, like an she bought it up herself,

600
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: I know.

601
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: But then the way Angie handled it like they made

602
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: her feel embarrassed that she said.

603
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: Well, then don't bring it up.

604
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: I think she farted.

605
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Okay, well you farted. It happened.

606
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: She didn't fart though, Okay, Well they didn't have to

607
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: be like.

608
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: She must have farted because she This is the first

609
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: time ever we are having a fight on housewife shows

610
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: about farting.

611
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: I By the way, it's funny because I'm because Meredith

612
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 3: said on Watch What Happens Lot that she wasn't allowed

613
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: to say that word growing up, and neither was I fart. Yeah,

614
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: my grandmother goes, that's a low class word. Don't ever

615
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: say that, and so we never did. Meanwhile, don't even

616
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: ask the way I grew up where I grew up.

617
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: It was like crazy, like craziness in the middle of

618
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: the night.

619
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: Like did you just not talk about it? Or you

620
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: just like you.

621
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: Just didn't say the word.

622
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: You would just like your walk into a room and

623
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: crop dust to everybody and then just be wasn't me?

624
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: No? It was like did you do a Peter Dough?

625
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: I don't know where that name came from. Do never

626
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: even heard of it? I don't even want to talk

627
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: about it? Would you?

628
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: Would you fucking scene?

629
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: Ever?

630
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: I don't like when someone makes you feel stupid about

631
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: saying something.

632
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

633
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 3: And Angie kind of did make her feel stupid about

634
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: saying it. Mary does not like to be made fun of.

635
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: We should all know Mary by now.

636
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: Damn Angie, Well, next I'm married. Don't don't tell the

637
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: group that you got guests? How about that?

638
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: Well, you should be able to be yourself and be

639
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: vulnerable in front of your friends and say I've guessed

640
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: and not be made fun of for it.

641
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: See I'm the opposite. I'd be like, I'd probably be

642
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: ripping them. I'd be like, here you go, I got guess.

643
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: Do you want more? There's more?

644
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: Where that came now, I know, but you could do that,

645
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 3: But like they made her feel stupid about saying that, Angie, Angie,

646
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: I mean, dog, are you farting?

647
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: Dog?

648
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: Has stomach issues. Let me tell you if I put

649
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: her next to the microphone, you'd hear her stomach.

650
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, oh poor thing. I think that Mary

651
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: was fine with the first joke, but then Angie kept

652
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: carrying it on. But I don't think it was that deep.

653
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: And then Mary finally said, I didn't come to cry.

654
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: I came to tell you off, you.

655
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: Know, but like what I have been upset about Angie

656
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: making fun of my parts? Yeah, because I told you

657
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: the truth and then you may fun of me. So

658
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: then I.

659
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: Don't give a shit about that kind of stuff.

660
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: It's an Italian thing. We don't like to be made

661
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: fun of, Like Paul, Irish people they call it's called

662
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: they take the piss out of each other other. They

663
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 3: think it's funny to make fun of. Italians get offended

664
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: very easily.

665
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 2: Okay, that's why I mean and Paul get along so well.

666
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: I know Italians are like, the fuck you're making fun

667
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: of me? Fuck you fuck your mother. So no, Italians

668
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: don't think it's funny.

669
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start talking about Lisa because I got a

670
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: lot to say.

671
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: Well, I have to say Heather shopping with Lisa again.

672
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: These friends, like Mary's calling out Angie and Heather's calling

673
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: out Lisa. These are friends, guys, these are real friends.

674
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: I'm impressed. You should be able to tell your friends

675
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: when they're fucking up.

676
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: I feel like they're trying very hard to take Lisa

677
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: down this season. The girl is getting it from every

678
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: single direction tells her about though. Yeah, but this conversation

679
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: annoyed me. Lisa asked to bring glam to the yacht.

680
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: That annoyed me. But that that annoyed you know how

681
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: she's remember meltdown right right, Like, if you want to

682
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: fight with Lisa about something, fight about her being pretentious,

683
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: fight about her you know, wanting to name drop, fight

684
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: about her about her glam and her fancy clothes, don't

685
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: fight about her about bringing ship up, because that's what

686
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: this show is about.

687
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: They are doing her job.

688
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: Lisamercials. Yep, Lisa's getting the camera. That's what she's getting.

689
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: She's getting the tamera. This season, she's getting blamed for everything.

690
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: They're trying so hard to take take Our Girl Down.

691
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: If Lisa wasn't on this season, what would these ladies

692
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: have to talk about the first couple episodes not as

693
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: carrying this, She wasn't even the camping trip, and she

694
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: was talked about. Not only was she talked about, she

695
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: was it was her legal issues were brought up. Now

696
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: do you know if she did that, you know.

697
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: What should be accused? Oh you're digging you're.

698
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're look at you. You're digging things up.

699
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: You're digging things up.

700
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean it's like traders right now, you're getting accused

701
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: for something you're No one really has the proof that

702
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: you really didn't only by her past, by way of

703
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: her past, Where was there any proof in the past

704
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: that she brought these things up or brought them to life?

705
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 3: Or well she calls her the minute you call and

706
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: you say, I have a private investigator, I'm calling my

707
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: private investigator firm, or I got something on everybody, I

708
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: have a private investigator. You know what?

709
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: Now you you.

710
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: Say that, now you're getting your putting yourself. When something

711
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: comes out, they're gonna blame you.

712
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, did she say she's got shit

713
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: on people? Or did she say last season that I

714
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: have a private investigator and I will get to the

715
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: bottom of it.

716
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: That's what she said.

717
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So why.

718
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: Does everybody blame Lisa when something comes out in the

719
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: press about that?

720
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 2: Well, in this episode. In this episode, Whitney brings something

721
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: up about Bronwin, some legal shit from ten years ago. Again,

722
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: if our friend Lisa brought that up, she'd be like, Oh, Lisa,

723
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: you're a risky friend. According to Heather, You're why because

724
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: you're doing what everybody else is doing on this show.

725
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: You need to show me more proof, you need to

726
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: show me what's going on. Lisa is someone who speaks

727
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: her mind. There's not one girl on that show that

728
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: doesn't speak their mind, not one girl on that show

729
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: that is not digging up shit and throwing it in

730
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: their face.

731
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: This might not be a popular opinion, but it's not.

732
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: Other people are jealous of the housewife that gets the

733
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 3: most attention.

734
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: One that's at the top, always tries to get knocked down. Now,

735
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: this new thing about uh, they talked about something. If

736
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: bad stories come out in the press, it's got to

737
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: be from Lisa.

738
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: There's more than one person on the show. And how

739
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: about the millions of followers that dig this shit up

740
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: before a housewife even does.

741
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: Well. A lot of this stuff that's being talked about,

742
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: especially Reddit. There's something called Reddit.

743
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: Yes, if you really want to know, Yes, we don't

744
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 3: need Lisa Barlow to find this shit out.

745
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Reddit digs up everything from what I hear. I'm

746
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: not a big Reddit person, but I get sent to

747
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: me from Reddit. Paul tells me what he and I'm like,

748
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: holy shit, these people go deep.

749
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: They do. I don't even go I don't actually even

750
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: know how to go on Reddit, but I can tell

751
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: you that, yeah, it doesn't. You don't need a housewife

752
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: to find that stuff out. So Lisa's getting's and.

753
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: Listen, I get it, guys. Lisa is sharp with her words.

754
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: Her words could be mean. I get it. But Heather's

755
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: saying that. You know, she's a mean bitch. Heather, We've

756
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: seen you be a mean bitch too. And to say

757
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: that you're a risky friend that was said about me,

758
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: that was said, can't trust well when I have friends.

759
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: I am the most loyal to my friends, and I

760
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: will fuck somebody up if they go after my friends.

761
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: You've been loyal to me, yep, I have one of.

762
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: My dearest friends. Now, when you're on a TV show, well,

763
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: you know what, if my husband's in trouble with the law,

764
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: or and it's in the press or whatever, you bet

765
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: your sweetest, someone's gonna bring it up.

766
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how about this. Heather defriends Angie, telling Lisa

767
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: that everything she hates Angie and she's also done too.

768
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: But so everybody at one time or another.

769
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: Do you think Lisa and Angie are similar?

770
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: Uh?

771
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they're sharp with their tongue.

772
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: I think that they had the one liners just to

773
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: slide off of their their tongue. I think that they're

774
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: great TV.

775
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: I it is what it is. But I didn't they Yeah.

776
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: We did get some clarification on suit man. It's suitman,

777
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: not soup man.

778
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: I needed that clarification.

779
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: Would you rather have a man in a suit or

780
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: a man to bring you soup? Suit suit?

781
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: Because the man in the suit is going to give

782
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: me the money to pay the man, and this for

783
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 3: the soupman to bring it to me. Good.

784
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: That is a good way of thinking about it. So

785
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: Heather finding out it's a suit man, first of all,

786
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: he sounds hotter, she said, So you think you know

787
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: a suit man's much hotter than a soup man. I

788
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: still I still am not is there such thing as

789
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: a soup man?

790
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: There is? I'm Seinfeld, it's famous. Oh yes, so man,

791
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm still not sold on.

792
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: That.

793
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: That just yeah, I don't know. I'm not so confused

794
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: about that. That's all I'm gonna.

795
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: So we need to find out how this suit man is.

796
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Maybe we will, maybe we won't.

797
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: No, apparently Lisa said no, no, no, but I have

798
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: to rewatch it. I'm gonna pass it.

799
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they're constantly accusing this woman have an affair

800
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: and doing all this Angie No Lisa, Wait, who's the

801
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: one that has a suit man? Is it Angie or

802
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 2: is it Lisa? Okay, okay, okay, it's Angie, Okay, seeing

803
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: is the other way around?

804
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm confused, but I'm gonna I'm not even

805
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: gonna spend time on this. I'm not I don't care.

806
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: There wasn't enough set about it, there was no proof

807
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: on it. I'm going to pass on this.

808
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, there's one thing that I hate that housewife say,

809
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: you've gone after every person on this cast. When you've

810
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: been on a show long enough, you have had confrontation

811
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: with almost every cast member, So shut your mouth.

812
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's what makes the show right, is not what

813
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: makes the show YEP, I did it.

814
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: It's that what.

815
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: That is the nature of the beast. Yeah, now let's

816
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: get to this was Listen, Heather defends Angie. It's really

817
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: hard coming. I don't know how close Heather and Lisa

818
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: really are, but that's really hard when you're fighting with

819
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: someone to hear someone else defend them.

820
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: You don't want to hear it.

821
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: It's still emotional, it's still hot. You're gonna be mad

822
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: at that person. Instead of defending defending Angie. I think

823
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: Heather should have came at Lisa in a way where, listen,

824
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm your friend, I'm here. If you're going through a

825
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: lot at home, it looks like you're upset about your

826
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: marriage to some extent, you did say that. Let's talk

827
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: about that, Lisa, because I don't. You're not looking good

828
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: and you know, let's let's chill out on Angie and

829
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: let's really focus on what a real problem is. That's

830
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: number one. So I don't think Heather came at Lisa.

831
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: She kind of set her up to fail here. Fine, whatever,

832
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: let's get to the crrups. Of this Britney's meeting with

833
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: her daughter because I I.

834
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: Can't talk Tamra, I, how do you think I feel

835
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: somebody that's actually gone through this. Brittany having this conversation

836
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: at a coffee shop is so familiar to me. Like

837
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: I was actually teary eyed when I watched this. Simon

838
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: and I would do the same thing with the kids.

839
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: It was in neutral place. It was usually at Starbucks.

840
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: It was usually sitting outside on a patio, very neutral.

841
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: But our conversations went a lot different than what we

842
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: learned about Britney. I mean, I was cringing at Britney's

843
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: story about Olivia coming over to talk to her and

844
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: she had Jared there and they were making out.

845
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: Olivia brought that up. It started with Brittany talking about

846
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: giving her a childhood memory that she didn't remember, and

847
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 3: I think when she was four, when she was four,

848
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: And I think Olivia maybe it was nice of her

849
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: to hear a childhood memory from her mother, because she

850
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: remembers her mother in a way that she was the

851
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 3: best mom till I was twelve. She was always there.

852
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: She was at everything. She was at every event, every

853
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 3: school play, everything there was she played with us, that's

854
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: my mom, that was my mom, and I know it's

855
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: in there. I I'm Tamra, I'm not okay. I can't

856
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: talk about this. I'm not equipped to talk about this.

857
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna let you take it from here, because

858
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: this is I don't understand it. I'm sick over it.

859
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm sick.

860
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: You and me, both you and me both because this

861
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: girl wants so badly, Olivia so badly, to have a

862
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: relationship with her mother, and her mother just keeps saying

863
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: things like I failed, I'm miserable, you know, being there

864
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: for my kids, and I like, it's this total opposite

865
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: of the situation that I've had to deal with, the

866
00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: total opposite. My children were alienating and told things that

867
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: we're so disgusting that now two of my children don't

868
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: speak to their father because now they're older and they

869
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: are disgusted by the things that they were told. My

870
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: other daughter, when I see her, I have seen her recently,

871
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: very kind and very sweet girl. But we're not back

872
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: to where we should be. And I would give anything

873
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: to have that conversation that Brittany had with her daughter,

874
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: and to sit there and her daughter to say the

875
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: things she.

876
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: Said Olivia said, get to know me, MO, get to

877
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 3: know me MO, and Brittany is just like given up.

878
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: She's like, it's so far gone.

879
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: It's opposite for me. It's in my situation.

880
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: I want to say to Brittany, you never stop fighting

881
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: for your kids. Never the fact that Olivia came to you.

882
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: You still can have a relationship moving forward. She's embracing it.

883
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: She's saying, mom, get to know me, and you're like,

884
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: I don't, just I don't know where to start. And

885
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: Olivia is saying, Mom, put your kids first for once

886
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: and get to know me. And this is you know what, Brittany,

887
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: don't give up on this. You could still do this

888
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: for both of you.

889
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: You've lost so much.

890
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 3: I get it. This girl had to go to her

891
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 3: father to talk about her periods and she's like, yeah,

892
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: that wasn't great, ma, And you're like, I'm sorry.

893
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: She's lucky her daughter still speaks to her.

894
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: There's a chance you still can do this if you wanted, Brittany,

895
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: how about gravel crawl, lick the bottom of her sneaker,

896
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: lay on the floor and say walk on me. Do

897
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: whatever you have to do to feel better. And I'm

898
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: here and from here on and in your life. I'm

899
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: gonna be here only if you mean it, because this

900
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: girl is so afraid that you're going to hurt her again.

901
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: When she was in between her jobs and took the

902
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: thirty minutes she had to come see you. Whatever scumbag

903
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 3: boyfriend you had that walked in the scumbag fucking room

904
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 3: right and fucking made out with you in front of her,

905
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 3: What are you doing, I'm bag guy. Okay, Okay, that's

906
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: in the past.

907
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: Well, she was sending a message to poor Olivia that

908
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: she's not important.

909
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: Whoever that guy is. You know, Brittany, if you're broken,

910
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: I get it, but unbreak yourself and you have a

911
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: chance something.

912
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: And I don't want I don't do that want to.

913
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: I do not want to mom shame anybody.

914
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: I'm not mom shaming her.

915
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: And this is a situation where I've done a lot

916
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 2: of research. I did a short movie, like a little

917
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: documentary on it, and have met with people that have

918
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: gone through the same thing. It's more common than you

919
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: know that a child at a certain age will turn

920
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: on a parent and just go on with your life.

921
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: Now you have to understand there's a history on my

922
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: ex's side. Of the family of doing that. Like my family,

923
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: we will fight. It's you know, family's not easy.

924
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 3: But I just here's the start of this. What I'm

925
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 3: saying is Brittany didn't deny what happened with Jared that day.

926
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: She She's like, I'm just sorry.

927
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: He should have never been there.

928
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 3: It was a happened. It happens. You know, sometimes you're vulnerable.

929
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not mom shaming Brittany because I mean,

930
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: I cannot bee. I'm not gonna bad mouth her. I'm

931
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 3: just gonna say to you, Brittany, you know what you did.

932
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 3: You feel guilty. I think you feel so guilty, Like

933
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: does it cut so deep that you can't even cry

934
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 3: or fix it or what? But you're if you don't

935
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: see this, Brittany, this Olivia is sitting in front of

936
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: you saying, get to know me. You need to say,

937
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: where do I start? What do you want from me?

938
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: How can I do it? Let me start now?

939
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: But how brave of her to do this.

940
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: She's a strong girl. She wants to forgive her mother,

941
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: which is so hard to do. She wants her mother

942
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: to get to know her, but she is definitely afraid

943
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: of her mother turning hunter again for another for a guy.

944
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: And you know what, Brittany, to your credit, if you

945
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: don't think you can do that, then don't start this.

946
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: Don't go here, don't no. I think it would be

947
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 3: worse for her to hurt Olivia again in that way

948
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 3: than to not do it at all.

949
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: That was a tough scene. I mean, I have to

950
00:53:54,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: give them both credit for sharing this conversation. For me personally,

951
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: I pray for them.

952
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: I want to pray for them. They broke my heart.

953
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: It broke my heart.

954
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: I don't know I could do it.

955
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 3: I I couldn't even live through watching it. I got

956
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: very upset. I'm still upset and hours and hours ago.

957
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: So you think that Brittany was so nervous that the

958
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: things that were coming out of her mouth just weren't

959
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: the right things to say.

960
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 3: I don't think that Brittany has the wherewithal to handle this.

961
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: I think she's because he's so sorry.

962
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: She's like she said to me, shouldn'tay to me, sid

963
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: to Olivia. I don't know, or in her confessional so

964
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: one of them said, she said, I don't know how

965
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 3: to fix this. I think it's so bad. I think

966
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: what I did was so bad you can't. Living with

967
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: guilt is probably the worst thing.

968
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: Well, then get help as a parent, is well. I

969
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: say that nervous situation because Spencer, at a young age teenage,

970
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: hadn't seen his dad for a while, and we sat

971
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: down at Starbucks and all I ever wanted was the

972
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: other kids to reconnect with her dad. It wasn't the

973
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: other way around. It wasn't him wanting her to That's

974
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: how I felt. I never felt like he wanted Sydney

975
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: to reconnect with me. Now, of course, this was ten

976
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 2: years ago, maybe even longer. And the first thing Simon

977
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: said to Spencer, wow, you have acne, just like your

978
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: sister had it. And after people are not parents. And

979
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: afterwards I said to him, you know when the kids

980
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: were you know, over the phone, why would you do that?

981
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: Like?

982
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: Is that your icebreaker? He's like, I just got nervous.

983
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to say.

984
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: I believe that it's not okay to tell you the truth.

985
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: I can't move on from that scene. You can finish

986
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: this meredth Meredith and how they go on this walk

987
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh look how beautiful. It's just looks

988
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 3: cold and dreary and dim to me. Because I was

989
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: so broken from the scene before this. I don't know

990
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 3: what they said. I wasn't interested in what they had

991
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 3: to say.

992
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: I it was just more gossip shit, you know, is

993
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: Angie feeding information about you know, the Meredith of it all.

994
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: And it's just like after that scene, very une, just

995
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: exactly and doesn't make that much like it doesn't give

996
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 2: that much of a punch. Yeah, you know, it's it's

997
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 2: just so hard. And then Whitney, Mary and Angie hangout.

998
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 2: Whitney talks about Brahmin's allegations of identity theft and Whitney

999
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 2: hasn't heard from her. And here we go, Whitney bringing

1000
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: up alligation about Bronwell and legal issues. It wasn't Lisa,

1001
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: but if Lisa brought them up, she'd be called a

1002
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: nasty bitch digging up shit and we can't trust her.

1003
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 3: Well, isn't it the world a double standard? Haven't we

1004
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: always said this? Well, here's the thing, that's all good,

1005
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: But now we got another thing to look at. Bronwin's

1006
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: these allegations about Bronwin, holy shit.

1007
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: And Todd did not help her out whatsoever. As they're

1008
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: sitting down talking about it, Bromwin says everything that happened

1009
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: was over ten years ago and was dismissed. She says

1010
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: that she can't legally if it's dismissed, why can't you

1011
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: legally talk about it? And why before she met him?

1012
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: After she met him, why.

1013
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was it was sealed, and

1014
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: I don't know why it was sealed. If it's dismissed,

1015
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: why can't you talk about it. Todd is concerned these

1016
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: allegations are now going to affect his career. He doesn't

1017
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: want to go well, doesn't want her to go on

1018
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: the yacht either, because he knows it will end in

1019
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: a fight between Bromwin and Lisa. I don't know what.

1020
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: Probably I would imagine Bronwin thinks Lisa is starting these rumors,

1021
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: or at least perpetuating them. The rumors, by the way,

1022
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: these rumors were on Reddit, these rumors were on social media.

1023
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: So is it her fault if Lisa did bring it up? No,

1024
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 2: that's what we do on this show.

1025
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: No one was on Lisa's side enough to say this.

1026
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: You're the only one saying it.

1027
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: Well, there's just one thing Todd said that really made

1028
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: me sick to you when he said, I wouldn't know.

1029
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't piss on her brain if it was on fire.

1030
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like bron Win blink twice. If in you're

1031
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: in trouble, We'll come get you. We'll come get you.

1032
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: But it was a doozy of an.

1033
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: Episode, to be guys.

1034
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: You know, I got a lot of messages because I asked, like,

1035
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: what were your thoughts on the show, And you know,

1036
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: there's people like, oh, Lisa needs just and I'm like,

1037
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1038
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1039
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: Lisa's getting a bad wrap. No, she is runs with stuff.

1040
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 2: Said Todd seems completely checked out. Jessica McCoy twenty seven.

1041
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: Brittany's daughter is begging for her attention. Was it was

1042
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: so Olivia.

1043
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: Olivia is so strong that reels beautiful. She's tall, she's

1044
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: i know, beautifuler than her mom. Olivia, if you hear this,

1045
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: I just want to tell you, just want to give

1046
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: you all the lug and respect for you, how you

1047
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 3: handled this and the woman that you are and.

1048
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: What you've come to be.

1049
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: So I give you a lot of credit for the

1050
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: forgiveness you have for your mom and for still wanting

1051
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: a relationship for her. And that's the right thing to

1052
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: do even for yourself, because hate and resentment is an

1053
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: anchor in your life.

1054
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: I know, I know, well Will Garnette, he says, Mary's

1055
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: fight over a fart. We'll go down in Bravo history.

1056
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, but ye have that was it?

1057
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: It was?

1058
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: It was packed full of a lot of a.

1059
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: Lot of stuff. We unpacked a lot of stuff.

1060
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: All right, Well, okay, guys, well thanks for I have to.

1061
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: Pray for them. I mean a lot of people say

1062
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: I'll pray for you. I'm really going to pray for

1063
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 3: Olivia today. I really am pro.

1064
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that.

1065
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: My heartbreaks kids and animals. It's my weakness of older

1066
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: bitches fighting. I don't really give a fuck. I watched

1067
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 3: them fight all day. I fight all day. Yeah, suck

1068
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: a dick, scout, dick.

1069
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: Bye bye