WEBVTT - Draft Show: More Pro Days & Tell Me More

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>on there war room for incenter news and draft analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliot and now your

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<v Speaker 1>hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another edition of the Draft Show. Happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be with you. I think we're inside of like

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<v Speaker 1>forty five days for the NFL Draft. It's fast approaching,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna try and get everybody ready for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really what we've tried to do this whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys, it is getting closer to the chance where

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<v Speaker 1>we have to uh all the work. Then that's been done,

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<v Speaker 1>all the preparation will be uh, we'll be on display.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brian brought us from Dallascowboys dot Com, as always,

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Dane Burglar from CBS Sports, David Hellman Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com, and Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. Gentlemen, today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna set this thing up for you. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to get into a little bit of draft news. We

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<v Speaker 1>got Clemson's Pro Day rolling, we got some news of

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<v Speaker 1>a potential cornerback in this draft, a really a quality

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<v Speaker 1>nickel corner that could be in a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>draft trouble. And I also want to get into a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of pro days as well, Washington and then also

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<v Speaker 1>Western Michigan, which we had guys there. We're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a little Twitter on the twenty like we always do

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<v Speaker 1>after that, and then we're gonna have a little one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite episodes. There's a lot of things we

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<v Speaker 1>do here that I really like, but I do like

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<v Speaker 1>the segment we have called tell Me More, where David

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<v Speaker 1>Hellman comes up with some players and not just some

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<v Speaker 1>of the top players, but just a random list of guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and he asked Dane and I to tell him a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more and hopefully they'll give you guys a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of an understanding of who all's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the top guys. But as we roll through

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<v Speaker 1>this draft, you know, when we go the three day

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<v Speaker 1>journey that maybe there's some guys in the fifth, sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round that hey, I heard about that guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the Draft show. So that's always one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>segments to do. So with that being said, maybe take

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<v Speaker 1>some calls to later in the show eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight five five two two nine seven, make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're interested in doing that. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, hopefully we can take a minute to

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<v Speaker 1>two and ask answer a question as well about that

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<v Speaker 1>live on the air. Getting into the Draft News Guys

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<v Speaker 1>pro day for Clemson, and we finally got a speed

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<v Speaker 1>on Mike Williams and I saw on Twitter Dane Brugler

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<v Speaker 1>that the scouts had him between four five six and

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<v Speaker 1>four five eight. Is that about where you thought that

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams would run? I think so based on the tape,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually reached out to a scout who was there.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me at a four to five five okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But he also mentioned that they add point zero three

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<v Speaker 1>to every time at Clemson because of the fast track

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<v Speaker 1>fast track. So officially this team is going with the

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<v Speaker 1>four or five eight from Mike Williams, but the four

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<v Speaker 1>five five adding the point zero three. So and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not uncommon Ohio State. A lot of these programs are

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<v Speaker 1>known for their fast tracks. Oh, how State's downhill? Yeah, exactly, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how State's a downhill facility. I'm gonna interject, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard you say that before fast track, like me, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about we're talking about artificial fields that are inside

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<v Speaker 1>indoor facilities, much like our Lucas Oil Stadium. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference each Each venue has something different obviously with

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know specifically with Clemson, but you know what's underneath?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it concrete? Is there a cushioning? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know some of some of these programs have. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the most updated carpet, right exactly, so track facility, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the just the surface itself is different. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like at Oklahoma when we were there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I think that was fairly normal. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a fast track, wasn't a slow track. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was fairly normal. Right. But some of these programs

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<v Speaker 1>just for whatever reason, And that's really why teams focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the combine times more so than the pro days. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>with the pro days, if you were injured at the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>For those that weren't invited to the combine, the pro

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<v Speaker 1>days are valuable, especially for the positional workouts where the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches can actually put these guys through specific workouts based

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<v Speaker 1>on what they want to see. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the forty yard dash and the athletic testing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why teams will lean combine times over the pro day.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for Mike Williams, we didn't have a combined time.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all about this forty yard dash, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was expected in the four fives. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know he's not a burner. If you list his

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<v Speaker 1>top five strengths as a receiver, speed's not in there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not what he does best. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>a four or five anywhere in the four five's that's

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<v Speaker 1>solid time for him. Should we be scared what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw last year? It is it fresh in our mind?

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<v Speaker 1>What we saw well with Treadwell is that it is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Treadwell came into the league and wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>productive right off the bat. Does that give us pause

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<v Speaker 1>about taking Mike? Is he unjustly getting compared to Treadwell

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<v Speaker 1>for the lack of speed? I mean, the tape is

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<v Speaker 1>incredible on Williams. All you do is you all you

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<v Speaker 1>throw on the you throw on the Alabama National Championship

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<v Speaker 1>game and you're you're like you're locked in. You're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa first on that game? Yeah? First round? Guy? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see it's it's not unfair, you know, because but

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<v Speaker 1>I think Treadwell's issues are more mental than anything, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>learning the playbook, understanding how to separate from press coverage. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more mental with him. With neither of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys Williams are Treadwell have a great forty year

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<v Speaker 1>at dash time, Does that mean that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a similar trajectory in the NFL. No, But I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly understand those who have a little bit of pause

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<v Speaker 1>because they do seem like they win in similar ways.

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<v Speaker 1>They're neither or fast. They're big guys who kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you just throw it in their zip code and they

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to come down with high catch radius

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<v Speaker 1>and all that that was in college. Yeah, in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>corners are bigger, they're faster, they press, they like the

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt routes, and things are just a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand the concern there. I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 1>wrong at all. Is it a little bit of recency bias? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, But I certainly understand those that have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of concern with what we saw from

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<v Speaker 1>Treadwell last year. Could we see these top receivers, the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that we have in this draft. The guys like Davis, Williams, Ross,

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<v Speaker 1>they've all got questions. I've got questions. Could we see

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<v Speaker 1>a slide at the wide receiver spot. Yeah, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at last year and we talk about these receivers possibly

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<v Speaker 1>going top twenty, and only one went in top twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Now was Corey Fullman. Guys like Dockson and Treadwell Fuller,

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<v Speaker 1>they were all in the twenties. Could that happen again

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<v Speaker 1>this year? You can't rule it out. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>more likely, at least in my opinion, they go in

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<v Speaker 1>the teens. But I don't think we see a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>top ten. Maybe at ten and Buffalo. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>like a possible destination for one of these guys. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more likely in the teens. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>each one of these has questions. With Corey Davis, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a banged up ankle. I wasn't able to work

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<v Speaker 1>out at Western Mission's pro day. He's hoping to work

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<v Speaker 1>out before the draft, but that's no guarantee. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know with Williams, obviously his speed and Ross just had

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<v Speaker 1>another surgery on a shoulder, So just a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>medical questions there so absolutely, there's a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of issues you can point to with these top receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a draft where there's a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talent, Yeah, the second round looks really deep,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into that, you know, talking about could

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<v Speaker 1>a second round guy go above Davis or Williams or

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<v Speaker 1>Ross or one of those guys, you know, guy like

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<v Speaker 1>god when you know, we had had a nice day

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<v Speaker 1>at Penn State at the comment let me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>real quick though. We we on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a we we have an information up on

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<v Speaker 1>the site. We have report from from Western Michigan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Corey Davis. The questions about him though, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's something that didn't work out yesterday. Talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Dane a little bit pre show, he'd like to work out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when is that going to happen? They thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be minor ankle surgery. Peers a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more than that. Yeah, I would say so, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's and a lot of times these guys will have

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<v Speaker 1>a workout closer to the draft if they're healthy. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that do we know that Davis will

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<v Speaker 1>be healthy enough to do that he wants to. Yeah, see,

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<v Speaker 1>that's there's gonna there could potentially be a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>top players in this draft, Williams and Hooker that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have You could add ram Check in there, ram Check,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly, and you know we could have to get

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<v Speaker 1>into ram Check a little bit later on what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on ronson offensive tackle? Yeah exactly. There you go. He

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<v Speaker 1>did combine stuff. But throw McKinley in there too, why not, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a chance too because his three cone

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<v Speaker 1>time was not getting as good as shuttled. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a chance to improve upon those. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Yeah. Um, But well and that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I'm sitting here thinking I hadn't really

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<v Speaker 1>thought about it in depth until you said that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't feel as good about any of

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<v Speaker 1>the top receivers for various reasons as I did. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I love Treadwell, that doesn't look great right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, like da, though you spoke, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to. You don't have to pat me like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you you spoke nicely about him. But well, my point

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<v Speaker 1>being is there were a lot of receivers that we

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<v Speaker 1>all felt good about in the first round last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and this year there's something troubling about all three or

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<v Speaker 1>four of the top guys, and the second day is

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<v Speaker 1>stacked and that's yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Darius Stewarts

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<v Speaker 1>godwins the Zay, Joe owns the Carlos Henderson board Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all these guys could be Hanson could be

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<v Speaker 1>a guy as well. Jordan Lewis got in a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of trouble. He's the cornerback from Michigan charged with

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<v Speaker 1>domestic violence physical altercation with a with a girlfriend. On

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<v Speaker 1>your big board, Dan, yeah, I believe he's number forty six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>top fifty, top fifty. We got that. We got that

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<v Speaker 1>bit of news. And then later Lewis tweets out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sad that somebody would like to would want to control

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<v Speaker 1>you so bad that they would ruin your life over it.

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<v Speaker 1>M that's intense, and like, these situations are tough because

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<v Speaker 1>unless there's a video like Joe Mixon sit exactly or witnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a he said, she said, and there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know the details yet, like what Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>learning about this, but this guy is a is a

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<v Speaker 1>top player. Oh yeah, I mean I think he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>in play for the Cowboys at sixty. Absolutely he was there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and there's a good chance he wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>there because he is a talented corner. But how does

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<v Speaker 1>this affect you know, there's never a good time for this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's put that out there. But it's especially

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<v Speaker 1>worse timing for him now when the Senior Bowls passed,

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<v Speaker 1>the combine has passed, he won't have as as many

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<v Speaker 1>face to face chances with these teams to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know, listen, this is what happened and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of explain himself if he wasn't the wrong. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the chance to necessarily show the remorse and all that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Michigan Pro Day is coming up next Friday, so

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<v Speaker 1>he will have an opportunity there if you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>planning right. Uh, And so well, you have to wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how many of those are already set for teams and

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<v Speaker 1>they have to kind of scramble and you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>they can make an exception. Uh, It's it's tough because

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<v Speaker 1>there's coming this late in the process. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>different than like the lyall call in situation. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>similar in the fact that it's just it's so close

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<v Speaker 1>to the draft, Like you said, I mean, we're almost

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<v Speaker 1>a month out right, and so teams are scrambling to

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<v Speaker 1>find out more information. Will they get what they need

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<v Speaker 1>to know in time for the draft to feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>taking him? Whereas Talent says he should go in the

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<v Speaker 1>top fifty. I don't know, it's too early to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but regardless, it's just it's a bad situation for Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>and could end up hurting him. One draft day, Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>that Sidney Jones, a very talented cornerback from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Washington, suffered an achilles injury, and we heard him

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<v Speaker 1>more on that. I was trying to dig some more.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard anybody really say. It looked like to

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<v Speaker 1>me watching the tape, something to do just the way

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<v Speaker 1>he came up, the way he left out of the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't so good. The Buddha bakers. Sounds like he'd

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice work out there. John Ross, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about him. The solder surgery was done Tuesday, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of getting some information about him. Talk about Sidney Jones, though, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a guy that you know the Cowboys could have

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<v Speaker 1>very well considered at twenty eight if he was there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in that kind of huddle of names that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always talking about, you know, six to eight names that

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<v Speaker 1>you hear over and over again. He was definitely one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Yeah, And in actual we've got questions about

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<v Speaker 1>him that I want to say for Twitter on the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty but just in general, I mean, I feel terrible

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<v Speaker 1>for the guy. I mean, yeah, that's tragic. Really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's done everything he needed to do over

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<v Speaker 1>his career at the Combine to put himself in position

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<v Speaker 1>to be a first round pick. Now he won't be.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you see him, Dane? Where does this take him?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you, I mean, and I'm not asking for

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas because everything s Dallas will take him in the

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<v Speaker 1>second round. But now, I mean, you draft these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially high you want him to play. This reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of I'm gonna mess up his name. But the the

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon kid that Cleveland drafted, Yeah, and that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was tough because yeah, he he heard his knee right

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<v Speaker 1>in Bowl prep ye and he fell to the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>round and he hasn't been able to, you know, get

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<v Speaker 1>his career off the ground um with Sidney Jones. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a better player. Better. I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see him fall that far. It just it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to you, hopefully and Okay, if it is the Achilles,

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<v Speaker 1>he has the surgery soon. That way, teams have somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>of an idea of how the surgery goes, how the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the rehab goes. Before the draft. And I

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<v Speaker 1>dropped him about sixty spots on my on my board,

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<v Speaker 1>so about two rounds. Yeah, I think somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>third round is he becomes a third round player, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of a first round player becomes a third round player.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to take a red shirt as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just kind of hope that he gets back

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<v Speaker 1>to the player that you saw on tape at Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's that's that's tragic for him. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy, and you know, he was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that you had to consider, you know, you absolutely had

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<v Speaker 1>to consider him. And this is something that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>come up every year. But do these guys need to

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<v Speaker 1>be working out as much as they do before the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that will be a hot topic among a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. You know, they go to the combine,

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<v Speaker 1>do this, they go to the Pro Day, do this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, then you got the teams come through and

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<v Speaker 1>exactly teams the visit. I mean, it's there's so much,

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<v Speaker 1>so many layers to this process. Is it too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if you're a first round guy, Do you really

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<v Speaker 1>need to be doing this much? I understand both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the argument. On one hand, these teams are going

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<v Speaker 1>to invest millions of dollars into you. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>know everything I want to know. But on this at

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<v Speaker 1>this same time, there's plenty of tape out there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a player, do you work if you work

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<v Speaker 1>out the combine? Do you just stand on your number exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you saw me work out, you saw

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<v Speaker 1>me go through. Hey, you're the ones that put together

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<v Speaker 1>these drills. Yes, if you saw me. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see me do something else, just go watch the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>You're comfortable with what you did the combine. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would not blame a player for not working out

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<v Speaker 1>anymore at the Pro Day the top player right exactly. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a situation where you know a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Hassan Reddick who's changing positions, right, maybe a team wants

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<v Speaker 1>to see him do a little bit different. Okay, different situation,

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<v Speaker 1>But for a corner who at City Jones, who's played press,

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<v Speaker 1>he's played off, he's done you know everything about him,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what he was standing on his combine number. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he sure was. He was just working out for team exact.

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<v Speaker 1>His injury came when he was just doing his back

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<v Speaker 1>pedal in a positional drill. So I would not be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised and I wouldn't blame a player if he decides

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<v Speaker 1>to rest on what he did at the combine. The

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<v Speaker 1>columns are, yeah, the hot takes are already coming that

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<v Speaker 1>this will change the way a guy's approached this time.

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<v Speaker 1>If these kids work out at the combine, we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>ask them to work out anymore. If I was a

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<v Speaker 1>consensus first round pick, I think that's yeah. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a first round pick, I would maybe I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>work out at the combine. I'd be like, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to three years worth of my tape, you know. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the combine part of it, though, If the

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<v Speaker 1>kid works out there, that's why I disagree. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if the kid works out at the combine, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him do drills that I've seen defensive backs do

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<v Speaker 1>for years, and you do all those things. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to see a workout again. Yeah, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm you know, I don't blame a kid, and hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that's the I mean, that's what the draft

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<v Speaker 1>boards for. Right. Most of them absolutely kind of know

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<v Speaker 1>their range before this even gets started. Okay, before we

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<v Speaker 1>hit the break, A couple of things, A couple of dates.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to know. The visits for the thirty, the

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<v Speaker 1>top thirty are going on right now. You could start.

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<v Speaker 1>That goes until April nineteenth, so you can bring guys

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<v Speaker 1>in if your NFL team saw today where Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 1>is visiting the Denver Broncos. But these are the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>do not typically not typically they do them all they do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can you can start now if you individually

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring players in for your thirty visits, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can start right now, and that date goes until

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<v Speaker 1>April nineteenth. The second thing you need to know about

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<v Speaker 1>is the rechecks, the medical rechecks that's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>place April thirteenth and fourteenth in Indianapolis. So anybody that

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<v Speaker 1>had any types of issues all thirty two, will be

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<v Speaker 1>back in Indianapolis. Doctors in hand checking on any information, surgeries,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's popped up. We talked about McKinley, we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Ross. They could check on that post op and

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<v Speaker 1>David Hellman. We kind of talked about this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit briefly, so I'll start with this from sal Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>Jones appeared to seriously injure his achilles at Washington's protest.

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<v Speaker 1>So now the question is is he an option for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys at sixty because we know how much they

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<v Speaker 1>loved you dropped him two rounds. She said, he used

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<v Speaker 1>to be Jake Butt. Now it's Sydney. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's too early for a player that's gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>red shirt. You know, he's not gonna play a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>year and not gonna help you. And it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you like with Jalen Smith. Jalen Smith was arguably the

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<v Speaker 1>best player in the draft last year. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was a little different. You know, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>risk reward there. Sydney Jones is a nice player, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know he was gonna go probably in the twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>You for a reason. So in the around, yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>consider them in the second though, I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>in the second round. This team as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>all went through. If you talk to people in this organization,

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<v Speaker 1>they appreciate Jalen Smith. They don't want to go through

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith again. And I mean that's a respect. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this, and I mean I don't want to. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have to. They don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to sit there and watch a guy that they pick

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<v Speaker 1>highly not be able to play this team needs players.

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<v Speaker 1>This team needs guys to play right now. It's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to sit there and think, hey, Jalen Smith, grab him.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor did the surgery. I still believe if doctor hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>done the surgery, or or Cleveland hadn't taken their guy

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of them, that we wouldn't have Jalen Smith here.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm wrong about that, but just talking to folks

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<v Speaker 1>about it, they're like, we need players. We need guys

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<v Speaker 1>that can play. Now, the Jake Butts, the Sidney Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys maybe McKinley, the guys that are hurt that

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't play. They can't. They can't afford to do

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore. I mean, they've they've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>holes on and I'm talking about in the Cowboys perspective. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe another team could do it, but Dallas needs defensive help.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one people are going to walk out of this

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<v Speaker 1>building likely, you know, on free agency, like you get

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<v Speaker 1>you get my hints a lot, yeah, a lot. Good

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<v Speaker 1>segue because Will wants to know Dan you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this often. How much does RAMSI's hip scare you? Tackle

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<v Speaker 1>is suddenly something the Cowboys might be interested in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll save that for the doctors. Um, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about the extent of the injury, especially for a tackle.

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>You're a guy that's you know, naturally big boned. Yeah,

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you know you kind of worry about that a little bit.

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:43.160
<v Speaker 1>But if the doctor says it's okay, no long term effects,

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of something that happened, then I'll feel better.

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But it is something that you kind of leave in

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.199
<v Speaker 1>the hands of the doctors to tell you the current

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 1>prognosis and then just long term, you know, with any concerns.

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think at twenty eight, if he's there, absolutely

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to consider him. Can I throw another name?

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Would you consider playing Dion Dawkins at tackle from what

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you saw on Temple film? I'm not talking to twenty eight.

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it in the second round. Yeah, I think he

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 1>could do it. I think he's a much better guard,

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and he played left a lot of left tackle at Temples, right,

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know he can do it, but I

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>think I feel a lot more comfortable with him at

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>inside a guard if I'm gonna go for a tackle.

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Moton from Western Michigan that my guy. Okay, Well,

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>how about Robinson? Then? Would you consider Robinson at twenty eight? No, no,

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. They're just ram Check to me is a

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>top twenty player in this draft, and if he slips

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit because of the hip, then that's a

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 1>value pick at twenty eight. And as long as my

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>doctors tell me you know you're good to go, all right,

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll take him there. But Robinson to me is not

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>a top thirty player. Let me ask you one more

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>question then, considering what you know about the offensive tackles

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in this draft, and now that you understand where the

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are at with the depth on defense, would you

0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>consider going offensive tackle first twenty eight if you said

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>ram Checks, there's something like that, and then turn around

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>at sixty and ninety and those other things and grab defense.

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Fair argument, you know, because you're right about the depth

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of this class. With different pass rushers in the corners,

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you can conceivably safety two right where at tackle if

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't get your guy early, I mean, there's there's

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>no guarantee that Taylor Moton will be there at sixty. Yeah,

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>you kind of hope you crush your fingers, but you

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>know tackle is not a strong group and there's only

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>four or five I think in this draft. That'll end

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>up being future starters, at least long term starters. So

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>if you don't get your guy early, you might be

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>out of luck. Even it's sixty and be too late,

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you might have missed the boat knowing And I know

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>tight ends a lot deeper than tackle, but I feel

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>that way about both of those spots. Like if you

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>if a Ramsick fell there, or if OJ Howard or

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody was there, just give me that guy and I'll yeah,

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>we can fill the defense. See, I think people, I

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>think people would lose their minds if you drafted. But

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the educational part of this is it's just what he said,

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the depth at the position, grab the best one and

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>then turn around and play with strength at two, three

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and four. The people who would lose their minds are

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the people who don't really pay attention to how the

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>draft works. Well, we hope that we're educating folks, like

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>even I mean, for every person that listens to this

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>show and we appreciate you, there's like a thousand more

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Cowboy fans who don't really tune into the draft until

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like the Wednesday of Draft week. Shame on you. I

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>mean that's just the way it is anyway, Which okay,

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a good segue for a question from Michael, which

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>is reports coming out and you know, I don't think

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you draft because of an eight week injury, but reports

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>are out that Jeff Swain broke his foot during offseason

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>workouts this week, which will put him out till training camp.

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And we already talk about tight end anyway, we know

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>this is a deep class. Like, what's your priority level

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>on tight end in this draft for the Cowboys? I

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>think the only one, well, the only one I would

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>grab early in my opinion, is Howard. That's the twenty eight. Yeah,

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the one you pass on in Joku, then yeah,

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I would pass on a JOKEU would pass on butt

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and I would, And then you know what, I could

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like that maybe third, fourth, fifth round. Maybe is

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>there a tight end in this group? By the way,

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, I mean, is there a

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.719
<v Speaker 1>true tight end and the other than the kid from

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>from Ashland. I'm just just about to say, sheheen, yeah,

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Shin is no no, no, no, We're good with that.

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, though, if you had to grab,

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you would consider grabbing the best tight end though, wouldn't you? Yeah?

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I would if Howard or in joke, who were there

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight or you're thinking about a JOKEU at

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight. Oh yeah, if he's there, I'm jumping off

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the end Joku bandwagon. Not because I don't think he's

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a good player, but I like, I think I've said

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>this before. I don't trust the Cowboys to make that work.

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I just don't. That's fair. I don't, and that's not

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>That's not the type of tight end that they want anyway.

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're trying to fit a square peg into

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a round hole like they need an O. J. Howard

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>or Shaheen, like they want Jason Witten. Not that you're

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna get a Hall of Famer, but you want that

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>type of player. Which if Jake Butt was healthy, I'd

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>be all over him at twenty eight. But I'm I'm

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys aren't going to use the athletic Jimmy Graham

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>tight end the right way anyway. So I'm just so

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you're out on that. I'm jumping off that band. But

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>you're okay with Howard coming in though, Yeah? Because he

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>can do what they want him too and while still

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>being a viable, you know option down the field. Yeah, Yeah,

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair, and there are other tight ends

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>later on they can fill that role. Jeremy Sprinkle from Arkansas,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Michael Roberts from Toledo. Guys like that who you don't

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>have to spend, you know, early capital on a tight

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>end in this draft, you can you can find a

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>guy later. They can be serviceable too. Rich Daniel Jeremiah

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>went with Ingram at twenty eight. Yeah, get out so

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>rich right away? Really? Yeah, that was his mock to

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.479
<v Speaker 1>DAOs go away. That's that's just I don't need a way.

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 1>He's got his arms false folded here you're thinking about that? No,

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>did you said? Did Joku? And I'm that was a

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>really of incredulity, Like he's like really yeah, he's like interesting, Okay,

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>he's trying not to throw shade. But I'm telling you

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that's terrible. I don't like it at all. Um, Perry,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm this Perry knows the way to my heart. You

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>another gift out of this Perry knows the way to

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 1>my heart because this is guy is my current favorite

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>player in the draft. Um, would you and I've been

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about him all week? I ready would you rather

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>have Buddha Baker at twenty eight or Desmond King at

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>sixty the question of the day. Thanks, And I mean,

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously we talk about Desmond King is a safety all

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the time, so I'm putting that with that caveat. But

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I just think the Cowboys I got him in the

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>same round. Second. Yeah, these questions are tough because it matters. Okay,

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're going King in a sixty, who you get

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>it in the first round? Sure, I get that, but

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>just play the game with me, Dan. I like King

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but you never seen him play safety before,

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's the big issue there. So uh, you like

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you kind of? You like the physical toughness, stunt. Yeah's

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>ball skills, the ball awareness. He is a tough son

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>of a gun. I like him a lot, but I don't.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I like Baker too. And at twenty eight, he might

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>not be the best player on the board, but it'd

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>be close. And to me, I've got him right there

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>in that in the early thirties on my board, So

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think he'd be writ in that discussion

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>as a top five player possibly at twenty eight. Um,

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>is he the honey badger? He's in that mold where again,

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to be a little creative with him because

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he's trussed our team to be creative with a guy.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Not as a general rule of thumb, but like they

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>were pretty creative with Byron when he was a rookie,

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that they did stuff with him, and you have to

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of be similar with this because he's not a

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>true free safety. I think he's more of a nickel

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>free safety where he does a little bit of both.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not you know what, if a typical at either

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>who's got a better chance to succeed the on tall

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>safety or Buddha Baker being short, give me Buddha Baker

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>right now. Like, it's not even close. It's not close

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>for me either. I think they're very far apart in

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>terms of I was just thinking about. I was thinking

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>about overly tall six four safety right as opposed to

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>give me the an impressive looking dude who just screams

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>at the ball on it. Give me the better football player. Yeah,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that's Baker. I just like I think some teams are

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be worried about his height. Oh yeah sure. By

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the way I looked this up, Earl Thomas is not

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>six foot tall. He's just like five ten five to eleven.

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>This can be done. Okay, I'm in no, no. I

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>love the player I told you I mean, but I

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>love King though too. Byron a safe, put Byron at

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>free safety. Give me Jeff Heath like down in the

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>box and then let Buddha Baker just be a free

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>ranging monster guy. There are a lot of team in well, okay,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>they'll not take a safety under two hundred pounds. So

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Baker absolutely, I think he'll be off boards at least

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>in the top fifty because he's uh, you know, in

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the mid one nineties, right, So he did, but he

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hit the two hundred pud threshold, right, And I

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>think his playweight's probably closer one ninety, you know, if

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I bulked up a little bit for the combine. So

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a guy that it won't be considered

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>for some teams on top fifty because of his size.

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>But you again, you have to think a little bit

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 1>outside the box with him. I don't Baker or Peppers,

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I have. I have him close, but I have Baker

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>like two spots ahead. It's an honest man right there.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Cowboys would draft either one at

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight, I think, But that's neither here nor there.

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>But they're the same type of player though, right, I

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>mean it's that you have to figure out something for them, right.

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I think Dane's right. I think that's too rich for

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth overall pick in their eyes, that's just me

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>taking Okay, I trust you got good sources. Um where

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>was I? Oh, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>all on the spot twice. Brent guy at twenty eight,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>who's in that range who you just don't want, like

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>just trash somebody or mean right here, like the guy

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 1>that like if he's picked at twenty seven, you're like,

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>oh no, that's terrible. Like Bryan's always talking about what

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>about Gara Bowles utaw tackle, Yeah, yeah, that's my guy? No,

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>my guy, No, no, no, you stole my guy. I

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>said him first. Here's all right with balls, Like he's

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a twenty five year old rookie. He's athletic

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>as heck, but strength questions, technique questions. I just I

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>worry about him. You know if wait a minute, wait,

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>where did this all come from? What are you talking about?

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Dane's been pretty consistent about it. I

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:32.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of felt like I was the guy when we

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>were watching him. I hate it because he was wearing

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the red leg things and he looked really skinny and thin.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.239
<v Speaker 1>You might hate him more than I do, then I do,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I don't like him at twenty eight.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I let me ask you this, how about

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Tabor Tae with Tabor? With Tabor bother you? At twenty eight?

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>He bothers me in general just because of you didn't

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he didn't interview. Well, we're talking off field stuff, right, yeah,

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>not tape, I'm guessing well, and no, just in general. Yeah,

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you talk about it in the speed mid four sixes. Yeah,

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>so he does bother me right now. He's a guy

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that I think we still need to figure out. But uh,

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight, that's I don't. I don't hate it,

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>So I don't bowls I would not like at twenty eight.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>How about Taco? That's yeah, taco because taco is not

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>a right end. Yeah, favorite conversation unless they move, unless

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they plan on moving to Marcus Lawrence over to the

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>right end and keepan Taco on the left end, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe that's possibility. There are worse things

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>in the world than finding a solid left end at

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight, like you're not picking. He hates you when

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you talk about left and right and not spicking in

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the top ten. I'm I'm okay with and I I mean,

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily disagree because I'm okay with to Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence at right end because I think that's where he's

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<v Speaker 1>Taco or McDowell from Michigan State. So you guys with issues, Uh,

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>we're just crapping on everybody end. So it's a it's

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a fair question. Malik mcdown's one of the top five

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>players in this draft in terms of talent and talent

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>talent talent just based on the talent, but he does

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>always play like its Shrugan State. Last year started they

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>started great. Yeah, once the season went downhill, he went

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>downhill too, Yeah, And you have to worry about just

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>maturity level things like that. You're investing a first round

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>pick on a guy that does worry you. But he's

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they might already have their MILIEK McDowell with Irving.

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's that that tall, he plays inside, plays

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>a little outside. They might already have that guy. Can

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you play with two? Probably, But I don't know if

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>this team will want to. I think that's fair for

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean for me, it's McKinley. I think I've made

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that pretty clear. You just don't like the injury at all.

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to draft a guy that won't be

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>on the field in training camp. I just don't. I mean,

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he might be awesome. He seems like he will be awesome.

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not about him as a players. Um, here's one

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>good question, by the way. Yeah, no, I like that

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna tie in. We canna tie it all together

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>right here? Yeah yeah, oh no, Kinley, no, uh. Julio

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>wants to know, like what what's the deal with Romo

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 1>and how does it tie into the draft? Like are

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>they holding him in the hopes that they might get

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>something done on draft day? Because that's what it seems

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like to me. Dan, You okay with what they're doing

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>th Romo right now? I guess. I mean, I I

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>know you're not here every day with us and stuff. Look,

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you might for draft for draft purposes, right, Are they

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna end up trading them? I don't think so, because

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think our teams are gonna call their bluff.

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>But if you don't need to get rid of them,

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>right now, then why do it? You know, just hold

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>onto them. And you think teams could evaluate what's going

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>on with this quarterback class and say, you know what,

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it might be worth it to us to flip something

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to have a right to negotiate with him, but not

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>have to turn this into they even figure that out already?

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Are they maybeing too here in the that last month.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, I'm just I'm looking for and I

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>think that that's the Cowboys hope. I think, yeah, I

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>would argue that these for all intents and purposes, I'm

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking Houston and Denver. I don't know where else he

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>would go. And in that case, they're not looking at

0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the draft for the guy that's going to be their

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>quarterback right now anyway, because Houston likes Savage and Denver's

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>got both of their guys. Still go to battle with Savage.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>See how that turns out. I'm I mean, I think

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>they would, honestly. If not, I mean, it will be

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about Houston ena quarterback next year. You're probably right,

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>but for the time being, and that I guess that's

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>what I just I'm not convinced I can't stay healthy.

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced that teams being on the clock on

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>draft night is going to convince them to change their

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>minds about but maybe leading up to the draft, maybe

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the Cowboys hope and that's why you don't necessarily

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 1>need to release him right now. But with that said,

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're gonna end up trading Tony. Romo

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>will be very surprised. I think. I think the writings

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>on the wall that they're not going to and I

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>just worry about this dragging out. I don't I don't

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>think he needs to be here when the offseason program starts.

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I just think, but you also have to put that

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>about your team that gives you until April seventeenth. Sure

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>that's still a month away. Yeah, I mean, and that's

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's what that's right, ten days for the draft basically,

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>if not, why not. But I'm if nothing has been

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>done by April tenth, I don't think it's gonna happen,

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and I think you just need to make a calling.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with this, get on with it. I know

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>all you and Mickey Spagnola want to hold I'm okay

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>with this because I'm okay with this because I you know,

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm trying to create opportunity. I'm trying, But

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>at what point are you just kidding yourself? That's I

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>never until until the final guy says, well it's not

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>going to work. I keep fighting, okay, I keep fighting

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>in the draft room, thinking that someone's gonna call me

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna look at their board and say, you

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>know what, we need this guy to play quarterback. That's right,

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that's right. That would that would be the best possible

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you. My hope is that both these teams

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>look at themselves and say, wait a minute, what is

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>this going to cost us to get him? If he

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>gets to the open market. I would do it, not

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>just to have to compete against another team, but don't

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 1>you think the cost romost cost on the open market

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:49.959
<v Speaker 1>would be less than what you would get by trading

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>for as cond he's gonna want. If it comes down

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to two teams battling for his services, it's gonna turn

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>into teams going well. And how would you feel if

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you were if you all you had to do was

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>flip a fourth round pick to Dallas at least to

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>talk to him. How are you going to feel if

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you're the other team. If you're Houston just swapping spots.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about that for days. Nobody wants to believe me.

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>On No, it would be amazing. I just I've did

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>it with Denver twenty eight to twenty. I've done all

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>this right, I've did this weeks ago. Okay, Dave, thanks,

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.480
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Ken, And actually I was really proud of

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<v Speaker 1>myself because I'm positive we have not talked in depth

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>about any guy on this list on this show. It's good,

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<v Speaker 1>although we did touch on the first guy today, which

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bumm me out. But that's okay. But tell

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<v Speaker 1>me more about Western Michigan tackle Taylor Moten. Guys experience

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<v Speaker 1>a right guard at right tackle. I think you play

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<v Speaker 1>either spot. The biggest shoulders you've ever seen. Broad shoulders

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<v Speaker 1>helps with that wingspan. Uh, you don't see him lose

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of reps on tape. It's not always pretty,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't lose a lot of reps. Uh, not

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<v Speaker 1>that prototypical athletic left tackle who's gonna protect the blind side,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the right side, or he wins a point

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<v Speaker 1>of attack, strong hands, controls defenders. I think he can

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<v Speaker 1>lock down the right side, be a starter for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Yeah, I see a guy for a big

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>guy that gets the second level, makes some plays. You know,

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you talk about a guy that you know

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>is that big, but when you talk about second level players,

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>give me the guy that And this is where this

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 1>scheme is really is good. The cowboy scheme is you've

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>got to get those guys to get out on the edge.

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>We've seen Tyrn Smith, We've seen Ron Leary. We've seen

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.400
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0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think with Mot you've got that. You've got

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.720
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's uh that's just how big, how physical

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>he is. Uh you know, I I'm I'm on board

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>with him just because again, the fact that he's played

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of different positions, the guard, the tackle spot,

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<v Speaker 1>I think tells a lot about the kid. You know me,

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bottom line guy. Where can I get him,

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>y'all said at sixties first, if you I mean, if

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>he's there right again with his tackle class, these guys

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>are gonna get pushed up. And yeah, I think I

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>hate picking in the back of the draft. You know

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>his workout from yesterday twenty three times with two twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five the combine, Yeah, thirty and a half the vertical

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the combine, and then four or five eight in the shuttle.

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<v Speaker 1>So those must be the combine numbers that I was

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<v Speaker 1>pulling from our article that we have on Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson up today too, right we will, Yes, we will. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me more about North Carolina State safety Josh Jones.

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>If you squint really hard, you can see a little

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey with the way he was used at NC State. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not the same caliber of athlete, but Josh Jones did

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>blow up the combine with his numbers. He was a

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>strong safety and he moved to free this past year

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 1>as a junior, and he played it mostly on the

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>boundary and he was fantastic against the run against the

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>past a big kid who can run. What he did

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the Combine think solidified himself as a borderline top fifty

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 1>pick in this draft, so he might might not even

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>be on the board at sixty for the Cowboys in

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the second round. When you watch this kid's tape and

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I did it East Carolina, Clemson, Louisville, Florida State, and Vandy,

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the one thing you notice is when he comes up

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to hit ball, cares stopping their tracks, stopping power. I mean,

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>he just it's like he comes into hurry, he covers

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 1>some ground and he will knock you out. What measurables

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>are we working with here? Six two, two hundred and

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>fifteen pounds, I want to say, coming in, I didn't

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>have like at six one and a half two twenty Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 1>so I gotta update my combiny ran out four four one. Yeah.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I like this. This thing is I don't know how

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>much you really want to play him in coverage, all right,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>but I but I but his best trade is tackling.

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>He isn't he isn't he I mean he could cover.

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought he covered better, though I can qualify this.

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought he covered better in the red zone than

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>he did in the field, you know, and so sometimes

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of burried church. Remember what burried churches?

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>We see? Ye telling me he's an athletic upgrade over

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>buried church. Absolutely the same skill set. Yeah, and a

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>very good tackler. So keep that in mind. Dane's I think, Dan,

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I love the size of this kid, I really really do.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I can get him at sixty. I think you can

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 1>get him at sixty. I don't. I don't. I m

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I updated. I did my top one hundred this week.

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.479
<v Speaker 1>He came in at number fifty for me, it'll be close.

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.959
<v Speaker 1>It will be close. Heat some upsets. Tell me number

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.919
<v Speaker 1>fifty good, that's yeah, there you go. And I don't

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. No, that's not good. I don't like that.

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about Ohio State to talk about Draft night.

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown, red shirt sophomore who really should have gone

0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>back to school, but I think he looked at Mary J. T.

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Barrett this offense. Am I really going to gain by

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>coming back for another year? So he came out after

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>his retro sophomore year. Didn't have a productive season. Uh.

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 1>If you watch the Oklahoma game, you think, oh, this

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>guy's a future first round pick. He had four touchdowns.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>That amazing behind the back touchdown. But besides that, Ohio

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>about to catch at Wisconsin in the corner of the corner. Yeah,

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>full extend controls, Yeah yeah, the full extension with that length,

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I think the perfect example of what he is. And

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>he's I'm impressed with how how well he does getting

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>off press coverage. A physical guy, uh using that length

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to his advantage. He can create his own separation. Not

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>a burner, but he's a big bodied guy who is

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>still very raw in his development. I think he's not

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>going to really help you in year one, but projecting

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>him down the line three years from now, he could

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>be a player. And that's why he's to me in

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that third fourth round range, a guy that you might

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>have to red shirt for a year, but he's a

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>worthy investment at that point. He reminds me of Dez

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Bryant running routes ahead. Just throw that out there. Yeah,

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about a big body guy that runs

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 1>inside routes, comes across, can extend. I like with Dane's

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 1>saying about the physical side of it, because I think

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 1>that's what he is. Dez Briant is not a great

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>route runner, but he runs a lot of those routes

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>where it's inside using your body, the slants, the ends,

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the drags, you don't need yeah, everybody. Yeah, this guy's

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 1>got a little physical to him. Two hundred and twenty pounds. Yeah,

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, well let me I mean, and I watched

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 1>some tape of him before. I just compared him to

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>a seventy million dollar players say, you just compared him

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to him, But I think Dane's got him right in

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the round. I think Dane the three four, I think, yeah,

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>well what I'm what I'm hearing? And again I'm always

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the Cowboys selfishly, But do they need that?

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Do they need another guy? Like? No, they need some speed,

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>they need a speedster and speed. They need that West

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Virginia kid. Honestly, somebody could go vertically. He did it

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.879
<v Speaker 1>at a higher level. But you're describing a similar skill

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>set to me to Andy Jones. Yeah, this guy's a

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>more physical player than Andy Jones. Just in you get

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 1>my point? Yeah, I think I do. I'm gonna stay

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>in Ohio for Dane. Yeah, Dane Special right here. Tell

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>me more about Youngstown State edge Rusher, not Derek Rivers,

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:20.959
<v Speaker 1>Avery Moss, the Penguins who arguably had the best pass

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>rush duo in all of college football last year with

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Rivers and in Avery Moss. UH Nebraska transfer. This is

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>this is the top recruit at one time. It passed

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>up offers from Stanford and some others go to Nebraska,

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 1>played for both. Polini got himself into some trouble UH

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and was banned from the school. Ended up kind of

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.359
<v Speaker 1>hear what he did. He exposed himself. Yeah, you'd read

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 1>about that. Yes, he follows UH coach Polini Youngstown State

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>where you know and listen, I've stopped exposing himself. He

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>did that. I've talked to some of his coaches about him,

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:02.439
<v Speaker 1>and they've all Tommy John. Yeah, he'll do the read

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>for Tommy John if we draft him, go ahead. His

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 1>coaches have all told me that they consider this an

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 1>isolated incident, Like, yeah, an immature decision, like on a bet,

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that type of deal. But just a good, smart individual

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>who had an immature moment. So I'm not gonna hold

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>that what happened against him, you know too much. But

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, is he on the same level as Rivers

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 1>rushing off the edge. No, but he still has a

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>pass rush skill set to work with. Did you notice

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>some of the time. So he was quicker off the

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>bal than Rivers. Oh yeah, and he has I mean

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he has a length that you can work with. Um.

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I have some questions about him versus the run, but

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 1>as a pass rusher he can. He has got a

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit of bend do him. He's got that arc acceleration. Yeah,

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>he can put pressure on the pocket. Uh, not quite

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.919
<v Speaker 1>as effectively as Rivers, but still to the point where

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>he can, you know, create some kind of havoc. I

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>think he's better than Rivers. And this is where I'm

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>going to disagree with you. Watching him play on tape,

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>see a guy playing with his hands. I see a

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>guy that can extend into the block. And now is

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:07.839
<v Speaker 1>it always getting off the block? I mean he's he's

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>getting hands inside and then quickly and then boom, you know,

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 1>get rid of a guy. The thing though I really

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>liked about him is if the ball did come back

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>inside and he was up the field, I mean he

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>was planned back inside making the tackle. So yeah, I

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 1>had somebody from Nebraska tell me about him and they're like, ooh,

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:27.879
<v Speaker 1>this is what he did. I'm thinking, Oh, no, here

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>we go one of those deals. But at four eight

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>six at the combine is not indicative of what he

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 1>is playing football. I mean, it's you're too sixty three,

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty four pound guy, But you look

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>at this time. It's four eight six at the time.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>And I bet you if you go to if you

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>go to Youngstown and read time him, he'll run better

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:49.879
<v Speaker 1>than that because he plays faster. It's interesting because he'd

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 1>why as he used Pro Day, he didn't run again. Yeah,

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's not he just might not be a

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>great tester. No, and that and he might just say

0:50:57.719 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that might be the but I thought you could probably.

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 1>But I agree with Dane. The bend, the finish, that's

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.240
<v Speaker 1>his game. But they're and like I said, there's snaps

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>where you you see him, it's him and Rivers, and

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 1>he's off the ball before Rivers and in disruptive mode

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>as Rivers is trying to be disrupted. He's got those

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty four and a half inch arms. Yeah, I'm surprised

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>he only did fourteen reps on the pitch. I dig

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that arm length, Um, that's that's what you want. You

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>dig the exposing part of it too. No, I don't, Oh, gross,

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 1>where at length Kent is on point today. Where can

0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I get him? Um, I think I had a four

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>or five on Yeah, I was more than that. I

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was closer to five. That's honestly what I want to

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>hear from these. Tell me more guys. I think it's

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think four or five is fair. I think four

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>or five is fair. I think you probably might have

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to get him at four. I've got a five on him,

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>do you, yeah, Yeah, four or five I would I

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 1>would go you at straight five five, straight five. I

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.839
<v Speaker 1>mean their fourth round pick is essentially a five. Anyway, Yeah,

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 1>tell me more. Another and another unsung guy from a

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:01.359
<v Speaker 1>power school, tell me more about what Washington's Kevin King,

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>who seems to be rising up the hype boards recently. Well,

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>when you're that size and you test like he did,

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 1>did you watch Arizona State by tape? By chance? Let

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 1>me see what I watched that day on Kevin King. Well,

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>if if you probably didn't, then because if no, I didn't, Arizona, Utah,

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Oregon and Stanford. His interception against Arizona State was one

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:28.879
<v Speaker 1>of the top three. You'll see really impressive, you using

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that full extension, use those ball skills. He's not really

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>technically proficient at playing cornerback with his footwork right, with

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the way he moves in both man and off coverage.

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But when you have those foundation traits, the length, at

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the speed he can bend, he's flexible. When he locates

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the ball, he'll go up and get it, and he

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>can be a playmaker when the ball is in the air.

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>So when you have those foundation traits, that's the type

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of corner you want to work with. He does need

0:52:56.640 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>some work, far from a polished product, but again, when

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 1>you have those those raw traits, it's something you can

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 1>project him forward to being something more than just uh,

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a guy with promise. You can project him

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>as a starter. Yeah, six three, even two hundred pounds

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 1>four four five is what the measurables all lead to believe.

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this though about him. I mean, I

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised that for a guy his his height,

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>really you know, it takes him a little bit to

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 1>get going. And and I mean I understand that when

0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you get tall guys leggy, he's got long legs, but man,

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:38.399
<v Speaker 1>the guy plays with some balance. I mean, I worry

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>about guy. You're thinking, oh, it's gonna take him, you know,

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have trouble, but the length makes him a

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:46.439
<v Speaker 1>hard guy to get away from. You know, he could

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>he when he gets his hands. He's very competitive, that's

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Dane's got him right. But he's a physically

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>tough guy when playing man coverage because you can't get

0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>away from him. That's the thing now, getting going part

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that has maybe to do when he has to play

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in the off coverage. But I think he matches up

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.759
<v Speaker 1>well against any size. Anything you throw at him, he's

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna find a way to make plays. Two three, I've

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.800
<v Speaker 1>got a two on him, and I think there's a

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>chance he can go in the first. He what he

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>did the combine, Yeah, I mean he's The buzz around

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 1>him is building for sure. Just don't see many corners

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like him. You really don't mean Seattle in the late first,

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, Green Bay, the teams that really value the

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>length and the size at corner, that would make some sense. Yeah,

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I mean the tackling thing is going to

0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of a question for him. You

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>think he may be a little bit better for his size,

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:40.240
<v Speaker 1>that he would be a better tackler six three, two hundred.

0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.719
<v Speaker 1>He's really not, But The coverage aspect of his game

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 1>is impressive. It really really is. Well, that's what you

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>pay corners for. Absolutely, I'll forgive your bad tackling. He

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:53.879
<v Speaker 1>had lock people down ten or eleven reps on the bend. Yeah,

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that's impressive for a guy that long. Is that it? Dave?

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>That is it? All right? Ken Garrison? Hey, I'm gonna

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>go to you. We got anybody wants to talk to

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 1>us today? Fole lines are open, get us in in

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the next minute and a half and week. What are

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>we gonna as we as we kind of finish this

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<v Speaker 1>day out though? What do we got coming up though

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming weeks? That the coming week that you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that we're gonna need to need to keep

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<v Speaker 1>a close eye. Yeah, you gotta. Oh I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to, uh talk about though, You're the Beast?

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<v Speaker 1>How how's that coming along? That's the Dane Brugler. If

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you go to his h is a Twitter page DP Brugler,

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you will find it. He's you'll pin that about that

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<v Speaker 1>tweet about the Beast. I'm not ready which hopefully in

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<v Speaker 1>the next two weeks. I mean I'm working late nights,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, until three am, getting up at seven and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, starting in the back up again and explained

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<v Speaker 1>the Beast. I always we call it the Beast, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the in depth reports on the top four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>guys in this draft. Uh. You know, we know about

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the top guys, but it's similar to tell me more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we try to go really deep on each

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.359
<v Speaker 1>one of these guys. All the details, nothing too small.

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.399
<v Speaker 1>It'll all be in there. So the best draft guide, yeah,

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:05.799
<v Speaker 1>it is. It is outstanding. And we're working on our

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:09.239
<v Speaker 1>draft guide too here for Star Magazine. We take a

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:11.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of pride in that as well, so we'll keep

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody abreast of of Danes when it gets out. I say,

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>make sure you're following him on Twitter for all good

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>draft information. He does a great job too of answering

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 1>your draft questions. If you're new to the Draft show,

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, feel free to reach out to him or myself,

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, David Hellman. We'll do our best to to

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:33.359
<v Speaker 1>do that to ask your question. Sure. The radar gun

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<v Speaker 1>times from the combine Shaun Watson came in at forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>which is below average. Yeah, and I heard the workout

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 1>today was below average right from Clemson. How much stock

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<v Speaker 1>do you put into the mile prour. With the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally you want at least fifty five. You know, Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty, which, right Mahomes is off the chart. But

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally you want fifty five. Now at forty nine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch my tape and it's okay, it's okay. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a great arm, but not a terrible arm. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>does the forty nine number worry you at all? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is that a number you just kind of brush off.

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't brush it off, but it doesn't bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>I worry about the accuracy, you know, I worry. I'm

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 1>not not worried. I when a quarterback, I look at accuracy.

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<v Speaker 1>If the ball's slow and it's not accurate, it is

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna get knocked down. But to me, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you got I still think there's a lot of great

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>traits about Watson. I really really do. I like the

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Shawn Watson a lot, but I kind of feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, that's what happens with quarterbacks. But people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about him as a top ten twenty pick,

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and I just don't think that's realistic based on what

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<v Speaker 1>is there. I mean, I've already said it a half

0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a dozen times. He's like Dak all over again. And

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Dak obviously you'd pick him one right now, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was projected as a I wouldn't think that Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>showed similar kind of traits. I need to go look

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 1>at that number. But I mean, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott's ball speed would I believe he was like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three, so he was right with the average. I'm

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 1>at the combine, um, but yeah, no, we just don't

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of below fifty five, but especially below

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>fifty that's rare. And so it's just it's just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those interesting, you know, numbers from the combine that

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 1>needs context. But it's something that I don't think you

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.280
<v Speaker 1>brush off. But you know, it's tough to figure out

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>how much you weigh something like that. I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like people are trying to peg him as a top

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<v Speaker 1>twenty pick when he's more like a top sixty pick.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my impression, at least, I don't I have one

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<v Speaker 1>two one him. I've got him, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>right around the twenty five to thirty range on my board. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>did quarterbacks get pushed up? Absolutely all the time? Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>s Goo is did Mahomes go up from fifty for you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like forty six? Yeah, not not too much, but

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it's everybody's fallen in love with Mahomes and I like

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes too. Yeah. I have Williams higher than I mean,

0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Williams Watson higher than Mahomes. Mahomes is one of my

0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 1>favorite players in the strap that regardless of position. I

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>think people are just because I like watching him on tape.

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 1>People are like watching the crazy plays and stuff like that,

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 1>run around, throw the ball. I mean, Blaine Gabbert went

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:05.160
<v Speaker 1>eleven overall. Yeah, these things happen. Yeah, all right, well

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, yeah, we got one. What's up, Dominic? Go ahead,

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 1>what do you got man? Hey? I was just calling

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>about the Tony Romo situation and uh, what I was

0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking is, um kind of nervous, but don't worry about it.

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>We're all We're okay. Yeah, Um, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should all. I wouldn't. I would not

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<v Speaker 1>release him, sure, because I think the Cowboys are on

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the cusp of really doing something good, like like like

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys said, they have the right tools in place,

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, with Elliott and Prescott. So what I would

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 1>do I would hold on to him. And I think

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that some GM is gonna say, Okay, second or third pick,

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:49.720
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna do me better? Is it gonna be Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Romo or the second or third round pick? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna say, hey, we gotta take a shot.

0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean Romos if he he could get hurt. But

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<v Speaker 1>I I think if you make a trade that's friendly

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<v Speaker 1>and then get to get them at the right price,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to sign them for five years. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's where the Cowboys made a mistake. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>them too much. And I love Tony Romo, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have paid them, and I think I think they

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<v Speaker 1>should get something for him, and I think they should

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<v Speaker 1>explain that to Tony. I think I think Tony would understand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, this is the Cowboys. I'm a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about the Cowboys sometimes. You know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players they got to get their money they go,

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<v Speaker 1>So Tony's got to give the Cowboys something back. I

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<v Speaker 1>just totally believe that, and I think it's a smart

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do because they are so close to being

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<v Speaker 1>a really great team. Okay, and a good draft this

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<v Speaker 1>this year will really help them all right, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Yeah, thank you very much. Appreciate appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just and I think when you're when and I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if Jerry Jones kind of suffers from this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you're this close to the situation and you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen everything that Tony Romo has done for the franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of fall into that line of thinking, like

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<v Speaker 1>we have to get something for him. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the way it has. Maybe he's surprised that people, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. You seeople are surprised if you

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<v Speaker 1>see that quarterback go from Houston to Cleveland for a

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<v Speaker 1>second round pick. You're kind of one R eight players

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<v Speaker 1>are stunned by the cruelty of the open market on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. That's absolutely right. Look at Adrian Peterson

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<v Speaker 1>right now. That's absolutely right. And so we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. But I just have my doubts that they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get much. You're only worth with the

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<v Speaker 1>market says you're worth. There, you go, all right, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it for the draft show for another week. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. We'll be a bit closer to

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<v Speaker 1>this NFL Draft. We'll dig in a little more. Find

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<v Speaker 1>some guys for you, for Dame Burglar, for David Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>for Ken Garrison. I'm Brian brought us what I also

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<v Speaker 1>think Derek Eagleton, Taylor Stern, Guys like that out there

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<v Speaker 1>that help us get this on the air. We appreciate everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you guys out there listening to and watching. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be back next week, so have a great week.

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<v Speaker 1>Number