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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on there war room for incenter news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliot and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another edition of the Draft Show. Happy

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Speaker 1: to be with you. I think we're inside of like

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Speaker 1: forty five days for the NFL Draft. It's fast approaching,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna try and get everybody ready for that.

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Speaker 1: And that's really what we've tried to do this whole time.

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Speaker 1: But guys, it is getting closer to the chance where

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Speaker 1: we have to uh all the work. Then that's been done,

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Speaker 1: all the preparation will be uh, we'll be on display.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian brought us from Dallascowboys dot Com, as always,

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Speaker 1: joined by Dane Burglar from CBS Sports, David Hellman Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com, and Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. Gentlemen, today,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna set this thing up for you. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to get into a little bit of draft news. We

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Speaker 1: got Clemson's Pro Day rolling, we got some news of

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Speaker 1: draft trouble. And I also want to get into a

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Speaker 1: Western Michigan, which we had guys there. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a little Twitter on the twenty like we always do

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Speaker 1: after that, and then we're gonna have a little one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes. There's a lot of things we

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Speaker 1: do here that I really like, but I do like

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Speaker 1: the segment we have called tell Me More, where David

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Speaker 1: Hellman comes up with some players and not just some

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Speaker 1: of the top players, but just a random list of guys,

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Speaker 1: little bit more of an understanding of who all's out there,

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Speaker 1: not just the top guys. But as we roll through

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Speaker 1: this draft, you know, when we go the three day

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Speaker 1: the Draft show. So that's always one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: live on the air. Getting into the Draft News Guys

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Speaker 1: pro day for Clemson, and we finally got a speed

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Speaker 1: on Mike Williams and I saw on Twitter Dane Brugler

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Speaker 1: that the scouts had him between four five six and

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams would run? I think so based on the tape,

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Speaker 1: and I actually reached out to a scout who was there.

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Speaker 1: But he also mentioned that they add point zero three

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Speaker 1: not uncommon Ohio State. A lot of these programs are

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Speaker 1: known for their fast tracks. Oh, how State's downhill? Yeah, exactly, Oh,

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Speaker 1: each one of these has questions. With Corey Davis, he's

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Speaker 1: Dane a little bit pre show, he'd like to work out.

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Speaker 1: that's there's gonna there could potentially be a couple of

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Speaker 1: have You could add ram Check in there, ram Check,

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Speaker 1: on ronson offensive tackle? Yeah exactly. There you go. He

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Speaker 1: did combine stuff. But throw McKinley in there too, why not, Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean I love Treadwell, that doesn't look great right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys could be Hanson could be

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Speaker 1: your big board, Dan, yeah, I believe he's number forty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: top fifty, top fifty. We got that. We got that

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Speaker 1: bit of news. And then later Lewis tweets out, it's

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Speaker 1: sad that somebody would like to would want to control

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Speaker 1: highly not be able to play this team needs players.

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00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: This team needs guys to play right now. It's nice

427
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: to sit there and think, hey, Jalen Smith, grab him.

428
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: Doctor did the surgery. I still believe if doctor hadn't

429
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: done the surgery, or or Cleveland hadn't taken their guy

430
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: ahead of them, that we wouldn't have Jalen Smith here.

431
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong about that, but just talking to folks

432
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: about it, they're like, we need players. We need guys

433
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: that can play. Now, the Jake Butts, the Sidney Jones,

434
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: the guys maybe McKinley, the guys that are hurt that

435
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: probably won't play. They can't. They can't afford to do

436
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: that anymore. I mean, they've they've got a lot of

437
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: holes on and I'm talking about in the Cowboys perspective. Now,

438
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe another team could do it, but Dallas needs defensive help.

439
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Twenty one people are going to walk out of this

440
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: building likely, you know, on free agency, like you get

441
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: you get my hints a lot, yeah, a lot. Good

442
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: segue because Will wants to know Dan you talk about

443
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: this often. How much does RAMSI's hip scare you? Tackle

444
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: is suddenly something the Cowboys might be interested in. You know,

445
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: I'll save that for the doctors. Um, I don't know

446
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: about the extent of the injury, especially for a tackle.

447
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: You're a guy that's you know, naturally big boned. Yeah,

448
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: you know you kind of worry about that a little bit.

449
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: But if the doctor says it's okay, no long term effects,

450
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: just kind of something that happened, then I'll feel better.

451
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: But it is something that you kind of leave in

452
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: the hands of the doctors to tell you the current

453
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: prognosis and then just long term, you know, with any concerns.

454
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: But I think at twenty eight, if he's there, absolutely

455
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 1: you have to consider him. Can I throw another name?

456
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: Would you consider playing Dion Dawkins at tackle from what

457
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: you saw on Temple film? I'm not talking to twenty eight.

458
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it in the second round. Yeah, I think he

459
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: could do it. I think he's a much better guard,

460
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: and he played left a lot of left tackle at Temples, right,

461
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know he can do it, but I

462
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: think I feel a lot more comfortable with him at

463
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: inside a guard if I'm gonna go for a tackle.

464
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: Taylor Moton from Western Michigan that my guy. Okay, Well,

465
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: how about Robinson? Then? Would you consider Robinson at twenty eight? No, no,

466
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. They're just ram Check to me is a

467
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: top twenty player in this draft, and if he slips

468
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: a little bit because of the hip, then that's a

469
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: value pick at twenty eight. And as long as my

470
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: doctors tell me you know you're good to go, all right,

471
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: I'll take him there. But Robinson to me is not

472
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: a top thirty player. Let me ask you one more

473
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: question then, considering what you know about the offensive tackles

474
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: in this draft, and now that you understand where the

475
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys are at with the depth on defense, would you

476
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: consider going offensive tackle first twenty eight if you said

477
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: ram Checks, there's something like that, and then turn around

478
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: at sixty and ninety and those other things and grab defense.

479
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: Fair argument, you know, because you're right about the depth

480
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: of this class. With different pass rushers in the corners,

481
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: you can conceivably safety two right where at tackle if

482
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: you don't get your guy early, I mean, there's there's

483
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: no guarantee that Taylor Moton will be there at sixty. Yeah,

484
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: you kind of hope you crush your fingers, but you

485
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: know tackle is not a strong group and there's only

486
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: four or five I think in this draft. That'll end

487
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: up being future starters, at least long term starters. So

488
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: if you don't get your guy early, you might be

489
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: out of luck. Even it's sixty and be too late,

490
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: you might have missed the boat knowing And I know

491
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: tight ends a lot deeper than tackle, but I feel

492
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: that way about both of those spots. Like if you

493
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: if a Ramsick fell there, or if OJ Howard or

494
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: somebody was there, just give me that guy and I'll yeah,

495
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: we can fill the defense. See, I think people, I

496
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: think people would lose their minds if you drafted. But

497
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: the educational part of this is it's just what he said,

498
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: the depth at the position, grab the best one and

499
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: then turn around and play with strength at two, three

500
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: and four. The people who would lose their minds are

501
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: the people who don't really pay attention to how the

502
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: draft works. Well, we hope that we're educating folks, like

503
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: even I mean, for every person that listens to this

504
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: show and we appreciate you, there's like a thousand more

505
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans who don't really tune into the draft until

506
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: like the Wednesday of Draft week. Shame on you. I

507
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: mean that's just the way it is anyway, Which okay,

508
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: That's a good segue for a question from Michael, which

509
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: is reports coming out and you know, I don't think

510
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: you draft because of an eight week injury, but reports

511
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: are out that Jeff Swain broke his foot during offseason

512
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: workouts this week, which will put him out till training camp.

513
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: And we already talk about tight end anyway, we know

514
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: this is a deep class. Like, what's your priority level

515
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: on tight end in this draft for the Cowboys? I

516
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: think the only one, well, the only one I would

517
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: grab early in my opinion, is Howard. That's the twenty eight. Yeah,

518
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: that's the one you pass on in Joku, then yeah,

519
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: I would pass on a JOKEU would pass on butt

520
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: and I would, And then you know what, I could

521
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: feel like that maybe third, fourth, fifth round. Maybe is

522
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: there a tight end in this group? By the way,

523
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I mean, is there a

524
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: true tight end and the other than the kid from

525
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: from Ashland. I'm just just about to say, sheheen, yeah,

526
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: Shin is no no, no, no, We're good with that.

527
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, though, if you had to grab,

528
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you would consider grabbing the best tight end though, wouldn't you? Yeah?

529
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I would if Howard or in joke, who were there

530
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: at twenty eight or you're thinking about a JOKEU at

531
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Oh yeah, if he's there, I'm jumping off

532
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: the end Joku bandwagon. Not because I don't think he's

533
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: a good player, but I like, I think I've said

534
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: this before. I don't trust the Cowboys to make that work.

535
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: I just don't. That's fair. I don't, and that's not

536
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: That's not the type of tight end that they want anyway.

537
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: So you're you're trying to fit a square peg into

538
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: a round hole like they need an O. J. Howard

539
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: or Shaheen, like they want Jason Witten. Not that you're

540
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: gonna get a Hall of Famer, but you want that

541
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: type of player. Which if Jake Butt was healthy, I'd

542
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: be all over him at twenty eight. But I'm I'm

543
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys aren't going to use the athletic Jimmy Graham

544
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: tight end the right way anyway. So I'm just so

545
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: you're out on that. I'm jumping off that band. But

546
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: you're okay with Howard coming in though, Yeah? Because he

547
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: can do what they want him too and while still

548
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: being a viable, you know option down the field. Yeah, Yeah,

549
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: I think that's fair, and there are other tight ends

550
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: later on they can fill that role. Jeremy Sprinkle from Arkansas,

551
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: Michael Roberts from Toledo. Guys like that who you don't

552
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: have to spend, you know, early capital on a tight

553
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: end in this draft, you can you can find a

554
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: guy later. They can be serviceable too. Rich Daniel Jeremiah

555
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: went with Ingram at twenty eight. Yeah, get out so

556
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: rich right away? Really? Yeah, that was his mock to

557
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: DAOs go away. That's that's just I don't need a way.

558
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: He's got his arms false folded here you're thinking about that? No,

559
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: did you said? Did Joku? And I'm that was a

560
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: really of incredulity, Like he's like really yeah, he's like interesting, Okay,

561
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: he's trying not to throw shade. But I'm telling you

562
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: that's terrible. I don't like it at all. Um, Perry,

563
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: I'm this Perry knows the way to my heart. You

564
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: another gift out of this Perry knows the way to

565
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: my heart because this is guy is my current favorite

566
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: player in the draft. Um, would you and I've been

567
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: talking about him all week? I ready would you rather

568
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: have Buddha Baker at twenty eight or Desmond King at

569
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: sixty the question of the day. Thanks, And I mean,

570
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: obviously we talk about Desmond King is a safety all

571
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: the time, so I'm putting that with that caveat. But

572
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: I just think the Cowboys I got him in the

573
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: same round. Second. Yeah, these questions are tough because it matters. Okay,

574
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: if you're going King in a sixty, who you get

575
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: it in the first round? Sure, I get that, but

576
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: just play the game with me, Dan. I like King

577
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: a lot, but you never seen him play safety before,

578
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: and that's the big issue there. So uh, you like

579
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: you kind of? You like the physical toughness, stunt. Yeah's

580
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: ball skills, the ball awareness. He is a tough son

581
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: of a gun. I like him a lot, but I don't.

582
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: I like Baker too. And at twenty eight, he might

583
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: not be the best player on the board, but it'd

584
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: be close. And to me, I've got him right there

585
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: in that in the early thirties on my board, So

586
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he'd be writ in that discussion

587
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: as a top five player possibly at twenty eight. Um,

588
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: is he the honey badger? He's in that mold where again,

589
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: you have to be a little creative with him because

590
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: he's trussed our team to be creative with a guy.

591
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: Not as a general rule of thumb, but like they

592
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: were pretty creative with Byron when he was a rookie,

593
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: that they did stuff with him, and you have to

594
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: kind of be similar with this because he's not a

595
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: true free safety. I think he's more of a nickel

596
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: free safety where he does a little bit of both.

597
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: He's not you know what, if a typical at either

598
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: who's got a better chance to succeed the on tall

599
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: safety or Buddha Baker being short, give me Buddha Baker

600
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: right now. Like, it's not even close. It's not close

601
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: for me either. I think they're very far apart in

602
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: terms of I was just thinking about. I was thinking

603
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: about overly tall six four safety right as opposed to

604
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: give me the an impressive looking dude who just screams

605
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: at the ball on it. Give me the better football player. Yeah,

606
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: that's Baker. I just like I think some teams are

607
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: gonna be worried about his height. Oh yeah sure. By

608
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: the way I looked this up, Earl Thomas is not

609
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: six foot tall. He's just like five ten five to eleven.

610
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: This can be done. Okay, I'm in no, no. I

611
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: love the player I told you I mean, but I

612
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: love King though too. Byron a safe, put Byron at

613
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: free safety. Give me Jeff Heath like down in the

614
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: box and then let Buddha Baker just be a free

615
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: ranging monster guy. There are a lot of team in well, okay,

616
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: they'll not take a safety under two hundred pounds. So

617
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Baker absolutely, I think he'll be off boards at least

618
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: in the top fifty because he's uh, you know, in

619
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: the mid one nineties, right, So he did, but he

620
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: doesn't hit the two hundred pud threshold, right, And I

621
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: think his playweight's probably closer one ninety, you know, if

622
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: I bulked up a little bit for the combine. So

623
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that it won't be considered

624
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: for some teams on top fifty because of his size.

625
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: But you again, you have to think a little bit

626
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: outside the box with him. I don't Baker or Peppers,

627
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: I have. I have him close, but I have Baker

628
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: like two spots ahead. It's an honest man right there.

629
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys would draft either one at

630
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: twenty eight, I think, But that's neither here nor there.

631
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: But they're the same type of player though, right, I

632
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: mean it's that you have to figure out something for them, right.

633
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: I think Dane's right. I think that's too rich for

634
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: twenty eighth overall pick in their eyes, that's just me

635
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: taking Okay, I trust you got good sources. Um where

636
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637
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Speaker 1: all on the spot twice. Brent guy at twenty eight,

638
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Speaker 1: who's in that range who you just don't want, like

639
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Speaker 1: just trash somebody or mean right here, like the guy

640
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Speaker 1: that like if he's picked at twenty seven, you're like,

641
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Speaker 1: oh no, that's terrible. Like Bryan's always talking about what

642
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Speaker 1: about Gara Bowles utaw tackle, Yeah, yeah, that's my guy? No,

643
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Speaker 1: my guy, No, no, no, you stole my guy. I

644
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: said him first. Here's all right with balls, Like he's

645
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Speaker 1: gonna be a twenty five year old rookie. He's athletic

646
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Speaker 1: as heck, but strength questions, technique questions. I just I

647
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: worry about him. You know if wait a minute, wait,

648
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: where did this all come from? What are you talking about?

649
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Speaker 1: I feel like Dane's been pretty consistent about it. I

650
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Speaker 1: kind of felt like I was the guy when we

651
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Speaker 1: were watching him. I hate it because he was wearing

652
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: the red leg things and he looked really skinny and thin.

653
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Speaker 1: You might hate him more than I do, then I do,

654
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Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't like him at twenty eight.

655
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Speaker 1: I mean, I let me ask you this, how about

656
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Speaker 1: Tabor Tae with Tabor? With Tabor bother you? At twenty eight?

657
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Speaker 1: He bothers me in general just because of you didn't

658
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Speaker 1: he didn't interview. Well, we're talking off field stuff, right, yeah,

659
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Speaker 1: not tape, I'm guessing well, and no, just in general. Yeah,

660
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: you talk about it in the speed mid four sixes. Yeah,

661
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: so he does bother me right now. He's a guy

662
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: that I think we still need to figure out. But uh,

663
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, that's I don't. I don't hate it,

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Speaker 1: So I don't bowls I would not like at twenty eight.

665
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Speaker 1: How about Taco? That's yeah, taco because taco is not

666
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Speaker 1: a right end. Yeah, favorite conversation unless they move, unless

667
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Speaker 1: they plan on moving to Marcus Lawrence over to the

668
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Speaker 1: right end and keepan Taco on the left end, you know,

669
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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's possibility. There are worse things

670
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Speaker 1: in the world than finding a solid left end at

671
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Speaker 1: twenty eight, like you're not picking. He hates you when

672
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Speaker 1: you talk about left and right and not spicking in

673
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Speaker 1: the top ten. I'm I'm okay with and I I mean,

674
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily disagree because I'm okay with to Marcus

675
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Speaker 1: Lawrence at right end because I think that's where he's

676
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: Taco or McDowell from Michigan State. So you guys with issues, Uh,

677
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: we're just crapping on everybody end. So it's a it's

678
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: a fair question. Malik mcdown's one of the top five

679
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: players in this draft in terms of talent and talent

680
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: talent talent just based on the talent, but he does

681
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: always play like its Shrugan State. Last year started they

682
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: started great. Yeah, once the season went downhill, he went

683
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: downhill too, Yeah, And you have to worry about just

684
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: maturity level things like that. You're investing a first round

685
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: pick on a guy that does worry you. But he's

686
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: I think they might already have their MILIEK McDowell with Irving.

687
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: You know, he's that that tall, he plays inside, plays

688
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: a little outside. They might already have that guy. Can

689
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: you play with two? Probably, But I don't know if

690
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: this team will want to. I think that's fair for

691
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: I mean for me, it's McKinley. I think I've made

692
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: that pretty clear. You just don't like the injury at all.

693
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to draft a guy that won't be

694
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: on the field in training camp. I just don't. I mean,

695
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: he might be awesome. He seems like he will be awesome.

696
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: It's not about him as a players. Um, here's one

697
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: good question, by the way. Yeah, no, I like that

698
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna tie in. We canna tie it all together

699
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: right here? Yeah yeah, oh no, Kinley, no, uh. Julio

700
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: wants to know, like what what's the deal with Romo

701
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: and how does it tie into the draft? Like are

702
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: they holding him in the hopes that they might get

703
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: something done on draft day? Because that's what it seems

704
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Speaker 1: like to me. Dan, You okay with what they're doing

705
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: th Romo right now? I guess. I mean, I I

706
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: know you're not here every day with us and stuff. Look,

707
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: you might for draft for draft purposes, right, Are they

708
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: gonna end up trading them? I don't think so, because

709
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't think our teams are gonna call their bluff.

710
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: But if you don't need to get rid of them,

711
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: right now, then why do it? You know, just hold

712
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: onto them. And you think teams could evaluate what's going

713
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: on with this quarterback class and say, you know what,

714
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: it might be worth it to us to flip something

715
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: to have a right to negotiate with him, but not

716
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: have to turn this into they even figure that out already?

717
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Are they maybeing too here in the that last month.

718
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just I'm looking for and I

719
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Speaker 1: think that that's the Cowboys hope. I think, yeah, I

720
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Speaker 1: would argue that these for all intents and purposes, I'm

721
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: thinking Houston and Denver. I don't know where else he

722
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Speaker 1: would go. And in that case, they're not looking at

723
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Speaker 1: the draft for the guy that's going to be their

724
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: quarterback right now anyway, because Houston likes Savage and Denver's

725
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: got both of their guys. Still go to battle with Savage.

726
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: See how that turns out. I'm I mean, I think

727
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: they would, honestly. If not, I mean, it will be

728
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: talking about Houston ena quarterback next year. You're probably right,

729
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: but for the time being, and that I guess that's

730
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Speaker 1: what I just I'm not convinced I can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that teams being on the clock on

732
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Speaker 1: draft night is going to convince them to change their

733
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Speaker 1: minds about but maybe leading up to the draft, maybe

734
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Speaker 1: that's the Cowboys hope and that's why you don't necessarily

735
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: need to release him right now. But with that said,

736
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna end up trading Tony. Romo

737
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Speaker 1: will be very surprised. I think. I think the writings

738
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Speaker 1: on the wall that they're not going to and I

739
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: just worry about this dragging out. I don't I don't

740
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: think he needs to be here when the offseason program starts.

741
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: I just think, but you also have to put that

742
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: about your team that gives you until April seventeenth. Sure

743
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: that's still a month away. Yeah, I mean, and that's

744
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: and that's what that's right, ten days for the draft basically,

745
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: if not, why not. But I'm if nothing has been

746
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: done by April tenth, I don't think it's gonna happen,

747
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: and I think you just need to make a calling.

748
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm okay with this, get on with it. I know

749
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: all you and Mickey Spagnola want to hold I'm okay

750
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: with this because I'm okay with this because I you know,

751
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm trying to create opportunity. I'm trying, But

752
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: at what point are you just kidding yourself? That's I

753
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: never until until the final guy says, well it's not

754
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: going to work. I keep fighting, okay, I keep fighting

755
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Speaker 1: in the draft room, thinking that someone's gonna call me

756
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: and they're gonna look at their board and say, you

757
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: know what, we need this guy to play quarterback. That's right,

758
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: that's right. That would that would be the best possible

759
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: I'll see you. My hope is that both these teams

760
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Speaker 1: look at themselves and say, wait a minute, what is

761
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: this going to cost us to get him? If he

762
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Speaker 1: gets to the open market. I would do it, not

763
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Speaker 1: just to have to compete against another team, but don't

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Speaker 1: you think the cost romost cost on the open market

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Speaker 1: into teams going well. And how would you feel if

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Speaker 1: you're the other team. If you're Houston just swapping spots.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about that for days. Nobody wants to believe me.

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Speaker 1: On No, it would be amazing. I just I've did

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845
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Speaker 1: kind of bumm me out. But that's okay. But tell

846
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: me more about Western Michigan tackle Taylor Moten. Guys experience

847
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: a right guard at right tackle. I think you play

848
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: either spot. The biggest shoulders you've ever seen. Broad shoulders

849
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: helps with that wingspan. Uh, you don't see him lose

850
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: a lot of reps on tape. It's not always pretty,

851
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: but he doesn't lose a lot of reps. Uh, not

852
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: that prototypical athletic left tackle who's gonna protect the blind side,

853
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: but on the right side, or he wins a point

854
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: of attack, strong hands, controls defenders. I think he can

855
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: lock down the right side, be a starter for a

856
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, I see a guy for a big

857
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: guy that gets the second level, makes some plays. You know,

858
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about a guy that you know

859
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: is that big, but when you talk about second level players,

860
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: give me the guy that And this is where this

861
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: scheme is really is good. The cowboy scheme is you've

862
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: got to get those guys to get out on the edge.

863
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: We've seen Tyrn Smith, We've seen Ron Leary. We've seen

864
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: these guys get out on the edge and create problems.

865
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: And I think with Mot you've got that. You've got

866
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: a guy that's uh that's just how big, how physical

867
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: he is. Uh you know, I I'm I'm on board

868
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: with him just because again, the fact that he's played

869
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: a couple of different positions, the guard, the tackle spot,

870
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: I think tells a lot about the kid. You know me,

871
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm a bottom line guy. Where can I get him,

872
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: y'all said at sixties first, if you I mean, if

873
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: he's there right again with his tackle class, these guys

874
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: are gonna get pushed up. And yeah, I think I

875
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: hate picking in the back of the draft. You know

876
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: his workout from yesterday twenty three times with two twenty

877
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: five the combine, Yeah, thirty and a half the vertical

878
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: the combine, and then four or five eight in the shuttle.

879
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: So those must be the combine numbers that I was

880
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: pulling from our article that we have on Dallas Cowboys

881
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: dot com. If you want to read about the Western

882
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: Michigan Pro Day, recommend that you go there. We'll have

883
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: Clemson up today too, right we will, Yes, we will. Okay,

884
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: tell me more about North Carolina State safety Josh Jones.

885
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: If you squint really hard, you can see a little

886
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey with the way he was used at NC State. Okay,

887
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: not the same caliber of athlete, but Josh Jones did

888
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: blow up the combine with his numbers. He was a

889
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: strong safety and he moved to free this past year

890
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: as a junior, and he played it mostly on the

891
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: boundary and he was fantastic against the run against the

892
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: past a big kid who can run. What he did

893
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: the Combine think solidified himself as a borderline top fifty

894
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: pick in this draft, so he might might not even

895
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: be on the board at sixty for the Cowboys in

896
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: the second round. When you watch this kid's tape and

897
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I did it East Carolina, Clemson, Louisville, Florida State, and Vandy,

898
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: the one thing you notice is when he comes up

899
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: to hit ball, cares stopping their tracks, stopping power. I mean,

900
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: he just it's like he comes into hurry, he covers

901
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: some ground and he will knock you out. What measurables

902
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: are we working with here? Six two, two hundred and

903
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds, I want to say, coming in, I didn't

904
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: have like at six one and a half two twenty Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

905
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: so I gotta update my combiny ran out four four one. Yeah.

906
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: I like this. This thing is I don't know how

907
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: much you really want to play him in coverage, all right,

908
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: but I but I but his best trade is tackling.

909
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: He isn't he isn't he I mean he could cover.

910
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: I thought he covered better, though I can qualify this.

911
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: I thought he covered better in the red zone than

912
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: he did in the field, you know, and so sometimes

913
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of burried church. Remember what burried churches?

914
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: We see? Ye telling me he's an athletic upgrade over

915
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: buried church. Absolutely the same skill set. Yeah, and a

916
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: very good tackler. So keep that in mind. Dane's I think, Dan,

917
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I love the size of this kid, I really really do.

918
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: I can get him at sixty. I think you can

919
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: get him at sixty. I don't. I don't. I m

920
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: I updated. I did my top one hundred this week.

921
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 1: He came in at number fifty for me, it'll be close.

922
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 1: It will be close. Heat some upsets. Tell me number

923
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: fifty good, that's yeah, there you go. And I don't

924
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: like that. No, that's not good. I don't like that.

925
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Tell me more about Ohio State to talk about Draft night.

926
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, red shirt sophomore who really should have gone

927
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: back to school, but I think he looked at Mary J. T.

928
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: Barrett this offense. Am I really going to gain by

929
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: coming back for another year? So he came out after

930
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: his retro sophomore year. Didn't have a productive season. Uh.

931
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: If you watch the Oklahoma game, you think, oh, this

932
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: guy's a future first round pick. He had four touchdowns.

933
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: That amazing behind the back touchdown. But besides that, Ohio

934
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: about to catch at Wisconsin in the corner of the corner. Yeah,

935
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: full extend controls, Yeah yeah, the full extension with that length,

936
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: I think the perfect example of what he is. And

937
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: he's I'm impressed with how how well he does getting

938
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: off press coverage. A physical guy, uh using that length

939
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: to his advantage. He can create his own separation. Not

940
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: a burner, but he's a big bodied guy who is

941
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: still very raw in his development. I think he's not

942
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: going to really help you in year one, but projecting

943
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: him down the line three years from now, he could

944
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: be a player. And that's why he's to me in

945
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: that third fourth round range, a guy that you might

946
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: have to red shirt for a year, but he's a

947
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: worthy investment at that point. He reminds me of Dez

948
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: Bryant running routes ahead. Just throw that out there. Yeah,

949
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about a big body guy that runs

950
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: inside routes, comes across, can extend. I like with Dane's

951
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: saying about the physical side of it, because I think

952
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: that's what he is. Dez Briant is not a great

953
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: route runner, but he runs a lot of those routes

954
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: where it's inside using your body, the slants, the ends,

955
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: the drags, you don't need yeah, everybody. Yeah, this guy's

956
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: got a little physical to him. Two hundred and twenty pounds. Yeah,

957
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: all right, well let me I mean, and I watched

958
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: some tape of him before. I just compared him to

959
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: a seventy million dollar players say, you just compared him

960
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: to him, But I think Dane's got him right in

961
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: the round. I think Dane the three four, I think, yeah,

962
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: well what I'm what I'm hearing? And again I'm always

963
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: thinking about the Cowboys selfishly, But do they need that?

964
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: Do they need another guy? Like? No, they need some speed,

965
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: they need a speedster and speed. They need that West

966
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: Virginia kid. Honestly, somebody could go vertically. He did it

967
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: at a higher level. But you're describing a similar skill

968
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: set to me to Andy Jones. Yeah, this guy's a

969
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: more physical player than Andy Jones. Just in you get

970
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: my point? Yeah, I think I do. I'm gonna stay

971
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: in Ohio for Dane. Yeah, Dane Special right here. Tell

972
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: me more about Youngstown State edge Rusher, not Derek Rivers,

973
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 1: Avery Moss, the Penguins who arguably had the best pass

974
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: rush duo in all of college football last year with

975
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Rivers and in Avery Moss. UH Nebraska transfer. This is

976
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: this is the top recruit at one time. It passed

977
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: up offers from Stanford and some others go to Nebraska,

978
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: played for both. Polini got himself into some trouble UH

979
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: and was banned from the school. Ended up kind of

980
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: hear what he did. He exposed himself. Yeah, you'd read

981
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: about that. Yes, he follows UH coach Polini Youngstown State

982
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: where you know and listen, I've stopped exposing himself. He

983
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: did that. I've talked to some of his coaches about him,

984
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: and they've all Tommy John. Yeah, he'll do the read

985
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: for Tommy John if we draft him, go ahead. His

986
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: coaches have all told me that they consider this an

987
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: isolated incident, Like, yeah, an immature decision, like on a bet,

988
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: that type of deal. But just a good, smart individual

989
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: who had an immature moment. So I'm not gonna hold

990
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: that what happened against him, you know too much. But

991
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, is he on the same level as Rivers

992
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: rushing off the edge. No, but he still has a

993
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: pass rush skill set to work with. Did you notice

994
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: some of the time. So he was quicker off the

995
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: bal than Rivers. Oh yeah, and he has I mean

996
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: he has a length that you can work with. Um.

997
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: I have some questions about him versus the run, but

998
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher he can. He has got a

999
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: little bit of bend do him. He's got that arc acceleration. Yeah,

1000
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: he can put pressure on the pocket. Uh, not quite

1001
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: as effectively as Rivers, but still to the point where

1002
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: he can, you know, create some kind of havoc. I

1003
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: think he's better than Rivers. And this is where I'm

1004
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: going to disagree with you. Watching him play on tape,

1005
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: see a guy playing with his hands. I see a

1006
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: guy that can extend into the block. And now is

1007
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: it always getting off the block? I mean he's he's

1008
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: getting hands inside and then quickly and then boom, you know,

1009
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: get rid of a guy. The thing though I really

1010
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: liked about him is if the ball did come back

1011
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: inside and he was up the field, I mean he

1012
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: was planned back inside making the tackle. So yeah, I

1013
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: had somebody from Nebraska tell me about him and they're like, ooh,

1014
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: this is what he did. I'm thinking, Oh, no, here

1015
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: we go one of those deals. But at four eight

1016
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: six at the combine is not indicative of what he

1017
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: is playing football. I mean, it's you're too sixty three,

1018
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty four pound guy, But you look

1019
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: at this time. It's four eight six at the time.

1020
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: And I bet you if you go to if you

1021
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: go to Youngstown and read time him, he'll run better

1022
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: than that because he plays faster. It's interesting because he'd

1023
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: why as he used Pro Day, he didn't run again. Yeah,

1024
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not he just might not be a

1025
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: great tester. No, and that and he might just say

1026
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: that might be the but I thought you could probably.

1027
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: But I agree with Dane. The bend, the finish, that's

1028
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: his game. But they're and like I said, there's snaps

1029
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: where you you see him, it's him and Rivers, and

1030
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: he's off the ball before Rivers and in disruptive mode

1031
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: as Rivers is trying to be disrupted. He's got those

1032
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: thirty four and a half inch arms. Yeah, I'm surprised

1033
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: he only did fourteen reps on the pitch. I dig

1034
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: that arm length, Um, that's that's what you want. You

1035
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: dig the exposing part of it too. No, I don't, Oh, gross,

1036
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: where at length Kent is on point today. Where can

1037
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: I get him? Um, I think I had a four

1038
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: or five on Yeah, I was more than that. I

1039
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: was closer to five. That's honestly what I want to

1040
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: hear from these. Tell me more guys. I think it's

1041
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: I think four or five is fair. I think four

1042
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: or five is fair. I think you probably might have

1043
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: to get him at four. I've got a five on him,

1044
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: do you, yeah, Yeah, four or five I would I

1045
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: would go you at straight five five, straight five. I

1046
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: mean their fourth round pick is essentially a five. Anyway, Yeah,

1047
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: tell me more. Another and another unsung guy from a

1048
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: power school, tell me more about what Washington's Kevin King,

1049
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: who seems to be rising up the hype boards recently. Well,

1050
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: when you're that size and you test like he did,

1051
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: did you watch Arizona State by tape? By chance? Let

1052
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: me see what I watched that day on Kevin King. Well,

1053
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Speaker 1: if if you probably didn't, then because if no, I didn't, Arizona, Utah,

1054
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Speaker 1: Oregon and Stanford. His interception against Arizona State was one

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Speaker 1: of the top three. You'll see really impressive, you using

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Speaker 1: that full extension, use those ball skills. He's not really

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00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: technically proficient at playing cornerback with his footwork right, with

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Speaker 1: the way he moves in both man and off coverage.

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Speaker 1: But when you have those foundation traits, the length, at

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00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: the speed he can bend, he's flexible. When he locates

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00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: the ball, he'll go up and get it, and he

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00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: can be a playmaker when the ball is in the air.

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Speaker 1: So when you have those foundation traits, that's the type

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Speaker 1: of corner you want to work with. He does need

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00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: some work, far from a polished product, but again, when

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00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: you have those those raw traits, it's something you can

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00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: project him forward to being something more than just uh,

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, a guy with promise. You can project him

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Speaker 1: as a starter. Yeah, six three, even two hundred pounds

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00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: four four five is what the measurables all lead to believe.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this though about him. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I was surprised that for a guy his his height,

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Speaker 1: really you know, it takes him a little bit to

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Speaker 1: get going. And and I mean I understand that when

1075
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: you get tall guys leggy, he's got long legs, but man,

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00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: the guy plays with some balance. I mean, I worry

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00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: about guy. You're thinking, oh, it's gonna take him, you know,

1078
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna have trouble, but the length makes him a

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00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 1: hard guy to get away from. You know, he could

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Speaker 1: he when he gets his hands. He's very competitive, that's

1081
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: the thing. Dane's got him right. But he's a physically

1082
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: tough guy when playing man coverage because you can't get

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00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: away from him. That's the thing now, getting going part

1084
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: that has maybe to do when he has to play

1085
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Speaker 1: in the off coverage. But I think he matches up

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Speaker 1: well against any size. Anything you throw at him, he's

1087
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to make plays. Two three, I've

1088
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: got a two on him, and I think there's a

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00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: chance he can go in the first. He what he

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Speaker 1: did the combine, Yeah, I mean he's The buzz around

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00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: him is building for sure. Just don't see many corners

1092
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: like him. You really don't mean Seattle in the late first,

1093
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, Green Bay, the teams that really value the

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00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: length and the size at corner, that would make some sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I mean the tackling thing is going to

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00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a question for him. You

1097
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: think he may be a little bit better for his size,

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: that he would be a better tackler six three, two hundred.

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00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: He's really not, But The coverage aspect of his game

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Speaker 1: is impressive. It really really is. Well, that's what you

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Speaker 1: pay corners for. Absolutely, I'll forgive your bad tackling. He

1102
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Speaker 1: had lock people down ten or eleven reps on the bend. Yeah,

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00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: that's impressive for a guy that long. Is that it? Dave?

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Speaker 1: That is it? All right? Ken Garrison? Hey, I'm gonna

1105
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: go to you. We got anybody wants to talk to

1106
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: us today? Fole lines are open, get us in in

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Speaker 1: the next minute and a half and week. What are

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00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: we gonna as we as we kind of finish this

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00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: day out though? What do we got coming up though

1110
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Speaker 1: in the coming weeks? That the coming week that you

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00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: feel like that we're gonna need to need to keep

1112
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Speaker 1: a close eye. Yeah, you gotta. Oh I want to.

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Speaker 1: I also want to, uh talk about though, You're the Beast?

1114
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: How how's that coming along? That's the Dane Brugler. If

1115
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: you go to his h is a Twitter page DP Brugler,

1116
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: you will find it. He's you'll pin that about that

1117
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: tweet about the Beast. I'm not ready which hopefully in

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Speaker 1: the next two weeks. I mean I'm working late nights,

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Speaker 1: you know, until three am, getting up at seven and

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Speaker 1: you know, starting in the back up again and explained

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Speaker 1: the Beast. I always we call it the Beast, but

1122
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: it's the in depth reports on the top four hundred

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Speaker 1: guys in this draft. Uh. You know, we know about

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00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: the top guys, but it's similar to tell me more.

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Speaker 1: You know, we try to go really deep on each

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00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: one of these guys. All the details, nothing too small.

1127
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: It'll all be in there. So the best draft guide, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. It is outstanding. And we're working on our

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00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: draft guide too here for Star Magazine. We take a

1130
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: lot of pride in that as well, so we'll keep

1131
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: everybody abreast of of Danes when it gets out. I say,

1132
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: make sure you're following him on Twitter for all good

1133
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: draft information. He does a great job too of answering

1134
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: your draft questions. If you're new to the Draft show,

1135
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, feel free to reach out to him or myself,

1136
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: you know, David Hellman. We'll do our best to to

1137
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: do that to ask your question. Sure. The radar gun

1138
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: times from the combine Shaun Watson came in at forty nine,

1139
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: which is below average. Yeah, and I heard the workout

1140
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: today was below average right from Clemson. How much stock

1141
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: do you put into the mile prour. With the quarterbacks,

1142
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: traditionally you want at least fifty five. You know, Mahomes

1143
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: a sixty, which, right Mahomes is off the chart. But

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00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: traditionally you want fifty five. Now at forty nine, you know,

1145
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: you watch my tape and it's okay, it's okay. Not

1146
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: a great arm, but not a terrible arm. No, No,

1147
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Speaker 1: does the forty nine number worry you at all? Or

1148
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: is that a number you just kind of brush off.

1149
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't brush it off, but it doesn't bothers me.

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00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: I worry about the accuracy, you know, I worry. I'm

1151
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: not not worried. I when a quarterback, I look at accuracy.

1152
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: If the ball's slow and it's not accurate, it is

1153
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna get knocked down. But to me, you know, when

1154
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: you got I still think there's a lot of great

1155
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: traits about Watson. I really really do. I like the

1156
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson a lot, but I kind of feel like,

1157
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: and I mean, that's what happens with quarterbacks. But people

1158
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: are talking about him as a top ten twenty pick,

1159
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: and I just don't think that's realistic based on what

1160
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: is there. I mean, I've already said it a half

1161
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: a dozen times. He's like Dak all over again. And

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Speaker 1: Dak obviously you'd pick him one right now, but he

1163
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: was projected as a I wouldn't think that Dak Prescott

1164
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: showed similar kind of traits. I need to go look

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00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: at that number. But I mean, I don't think that

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00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's ball speed would I believe he was like

1167
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: fifty three, so he was right with the average. I'm

1168
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: at the combine, um, but yeah, no, we just don't

1169
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: see a lot of below fifty five, but especially below

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: fifty that's rare. And so it's just it's just one

1171
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: of those interesting, you know, numbers from the combine that

1172
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: needs context. But it's something that I don't think you

1173
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: brush off. But you know, it's tough to figure out

1174
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: how much you weigh something like that. I just feel

1175
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: like people are trying to peg him as a top

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00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: twenty pick when he's more like a top sixty pick.

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Speaker 1: That's my impression, at least, I don't I have one

1178
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Speaker 1: two one him. I've got him, you know, in the

1179
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: right around the twenty five to thirty range on my board. Um,

1180
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: did quarterbacks get pushed up? Absolutely all the time? Mahomes

1181
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Speaker 1: s Goo is did Mahomes go up from fifty for you?

1182
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: It's like forty six? Yeah, not not too much, but

1183
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: it's everybody's fallen in love with Mahomes and I like

1184
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: Mahomes too. Yeah. I have Williams higher than I mean,

1185
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: Williams Watson higher than Mahomes. Mahomes is one of my

1186
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: favorite players in the strap that regardless of position. I

1187
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: think people are just because I like watching him on tape.

1188
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: People are like watching the crazy plays and stuff like that,

1189
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: run around, throw the ball. I mean, Blaine Gabbert went

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Speaker 1: eleven overall. Yeah, these things happen. Yeah, all right, well

1191
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, we got one. What's up, Dominic? Go ahead,

1192
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: what do you got man? Hey? I was just calling

1193
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: about the Tony Romo situation and uh, what I was

1194
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: thinking is, um kind of nervous, but don't worry about it.

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: We're all We're okay. Yeah, Um, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think they should all. I wouldn't. I would not

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Speaker 1: release him, sure, because I think the Cowboys are on

1198
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Speaker 1: the cusp of really doing something good, like like like

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Speaker 1: you guys said, they have the right tools in place,

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Speaker 1: you know, with Elliott and Prescott. So what I would

1201
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: do I would hold on to him. And I think

1202
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Speaker 1: that some GM is gonna say, Okay, second or third pick,

1203
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: what's gonna do me better? Is it gonna be Tony

1204
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Speaker 1: Romo or the second or third round pick? And I

1205
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: think they're gonna say, hey, we gotta take a shot.

1206
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean Romos if he he could get hurt. But

1207
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Speaker 1: I I think if you make a trade that's friendly

1208
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Speaker 1: and then get to get them at the right price,

1209
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Speaker 1: you're not going to sign them for five years. I

1210
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Speaker 1: think that's where the Cowboys made a mistake. They gave

1211
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Speaker 1: them too much. And I love Tony Romo, but the

1212
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Speaker 1: Cowboys have paid them, and I think I think they

1213
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: should get something for him, and I think they should

1214
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: explain that to Tony. I think I think Tony would understand.

1215
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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, this is the Cowboys. I'm a fan.

1216
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: I think about the Cowboys sometimes. You know a lot

1217
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: of players they got to get their money they go,

1218
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Speaker 1: So Tony's got to give the Cowboys something back. I

1219
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: just totally believe that, and I think it's a smart

1220
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: thing to do because they are so close to being

1221
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Speaker 1: a really great team. Okay, and a good draft this

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Speaker 1: this year will really help them all right, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, thank you very much. Appreciate appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I just and I think when you're when and I

1225
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: wonder if Jerry Jones kind of suffers from this as well.

1226
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: Like when you're this close to the situation and you've

1227
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: seen everything that Tony Romo has done for the franchise,

1228
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: you kind of fall into that line of thinking, like

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01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: we have to get something for him. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the way it has. Maybe he's surprised that people, you

1231
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You seeople are surprised if you

1232
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Speaker 1: see that quarterback go from Houston to Cleveland for a

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Speaker 1: second round pick. You're kind of one R eight players

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: are stunned by the cruelty of the open market on

1235
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Speaker 1: a regular basis. That's absolutely right. Look at Adrian Peterson

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: right now. That's absolutely right. And so we'll see how

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Speaker 1: it goes. But I just have my doubts that they'll

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Speaker 1: be able to get much. You're only worth with the

1239
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: market says you're worth. There, you go, all right, I'll

1240
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Speaker 1: do it for the draft show for another week. We'll

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01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: be back next week. We'll be a bit closer to

1242
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: this NFL Draft. We'll dig in a little more. Find

1243
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: some guys for you, for Dame Burglar, for David Hellman,

1244
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 1: for Ken Garrison. I'm Brian brought us what I also

1245
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: think Derek Eagleton, Taylor Stern, Guys like that out there

1246
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: that help us get this on the air. We appreciate everybody,

1247
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys out there listening to and watching. We

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: will be back next week, so have a great week.

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Speaker 1: Number