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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast Back at it again on Monday, June eight, where

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Speaker 1: it we're kind of in this summer. We're in the

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Speaker 1: summer now. Uh, two twenty just feels like one bad dream,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't even really feel like summer. But we're

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Speaker 1: back at it again. We got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: We'll piggyback some of the stuff we talked about on

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Speaker 1: Friday with Drew Brees. Roger Goodell got involved, more players

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Speaker 1: got involved, Donald Trump got involved. Semi predictable as the

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Speaker 1: weekend was going on, how it was all kind of

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Speaker 1: gonna play out, at least on social media. The NFL

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Speaker 1: on Monday gave some protocols on how you have to

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Speaker 1: operate within the coronavirus. I'll dive into some of those

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Speaker 1: and how it will just impact the way, you know,

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Speaker 1: be a little challenging. The NFL will just go around

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Speaker 1: the NFL some stories. Dalvin Cook's gonna hold out, stuff

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Speaker 1: going on with Iowa football and Kirk for Friends and

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Speaker 1: Dabblo Sweeney's taking some heat and we'll kind of touch

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Speaker 1: on it all. And then of course the Middlecoff mail

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Speaker 1: back at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle. My d

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Speaker 1: and you will get it read here on the show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the people Show. So I appreciate everyone firing

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Speaker 1: in the d m s. Also, for those of you

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Speaker 1: that haven't done it, go to the Apple iTunes three

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Speaker 1: and Out podcast leave a review. Greatly appreciate it. A

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Speaker 1: lot of you have done that over the last in

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, over the last six months, so I

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Speaker 1: I tip my hat to you. But let's start with

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Speaker 1: this weekend and let me pay you back off something

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Speaker 1: I said on Friday, and I I have just kind

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Speaker 1: of a motto in life. High level people do high

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Speaker 1: level things. It's why I was not gonna put at

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees six ft under. He was not gonna lose

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Speaker 1: his locker room. He was not going to be fired

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Speaker 1: from NBC. Uh. His resume was way too long to go. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll figure this out. I I think he'll

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Speaker 1: end up on the right side of the ledger. Several

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Speaker 1: days later, he's getting standing ovations on Twitter. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I think the thing we all need to do with

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Speaker 1: media not not everything is so emotional in the moment

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Speaker 1: that it's going to ruin people's lives. Now sometimes it will.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not I'm not saying that everyone is

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Speaker 1: gonna get the same latitude and the same amount of

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Speaker 1: time to respond or to react your resume at what

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Speaker 1: cowards say. Your life resume should matter, Like Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: if someone shows you who they are, believe them. Like

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Speaker 1: we have fifteen plus years seeing who Drew Brees is.

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Speaker 1: I was confident that he would find a way out

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Speaker 1: He's one of the leak's oaksman's he wrote or a

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Speaker 1: tweet or an Instagram at Donald Trump. One thing I

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Speaker 1: think happened this week is when the players, and I

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Speaker 1: know Peter King and Albert Brier wrote about it, is

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Speaker 1: guy with NFL Media was in charge of it put

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Speaker 1: together a video a Black Lives Matter video. It was

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Speaker 1: really powerful, it was really well done and kind of

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Speaker 1: the NFL, like the number one reason Colin Kaepernick got

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Speaker 1: deny it is because of money. That period when Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: more about their ratings than the NFL, because like most

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Speaker 1: and right or wrong, they blamed it on Colin Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: and the kneeling and that listen. I've said over and over,

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Speaker 1: will be less this time. I don't know, but those

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Speaker 1: And they've done a pretty good job. And they think

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Speaker 1: If you're a big football guy, you're unfaced by it.

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Speaker 1: Clearly people were. Roger Goodell had no choice on this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish the video that he put out,

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Speaker 1: It was gonna be the players who were all kind

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Speaker 1: Uh that the NFL could not be at some divide

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Speaker 1: But Goodell is kind of this this you know, peon

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Speaker 1: to keep making money. Now, Roger Goodell got out in

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Speaker 1: And I think what the NFL needs to do is

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Speaker 1: But Donald Trump has now become a major pain in

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Speaker 1: And I think it's really that simple. The majority of

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Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see how the league and

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Speaker 1: they and the owners, because the owners will push them

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Speaker 1: last couple of days. Really really not that many stories.

429
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Speaker 1: Why I kind of had to throw in a college

430
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: We're kind of a couple of college stories. On Friday,

431
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: several coaches showed up. UH teams tweeted out pictures. Mike

432
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: Tomlin was in the building. Andy Reid was in the building.

433
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: Various other organizations showed up. Some voluntarily pushed off for

434
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Speaker 1: a couple more weeks. Some teams, I think, like Bears,

435
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles basically just said no one show up till

436
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: training camp read the day. I think the like the

437
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: l A rams are gonna come on a voluntary basis

438
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: in a week. I do think the voluntary stuff with

439
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: coaches a little hard. I get their legalities. You can't

440
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: mandate them being there during these times. But to me,

441
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: you either show up or you don't. I wouldn't do

442
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: the the it's not mandatory either have you're either coming

443
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: to work or not. That's just to me, not a

444
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: good way to operate. Uh. The reason that you don't

445
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: do you do voluntary mini camps is because that's negotiated

446
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: through the union, right and through a C B A

447
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: anyone if you run a company. I never have, but

448
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: I've worked for some. When they say, hey, you come

449
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: to work today, you show up. When you say, well,

450
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: it's just voluntary, come in if you want. Well, am

451
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: I gonna be shamed if I don't and I go

452
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: hang out with my girlfriend or I go see my parents,

453
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: or if I work from him, because that's kind of

454
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: the problem that I think we've seen during Corona people

455
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: working from home. You can function from home, but if

456
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: everyone's in the office, you're not gonna get the credit.

457
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: So if I was a head coach and we were

458
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: showing back up, it would either be everyone has to

459
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: show up, and until everyone could show up, we wouldn't

460
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Speaker 1: show up. Now maybe I might show up by myself,

461
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: but I would tell the staff they do not have

462
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: to show up, uh, just to just to make it

463
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: kind of easier for everyone to follow so we don't

464
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: have people people getting shamed. Here. A couple of the

465
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: big stories over the last I'd say like week, but

466
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: definitely the weekend was one. Was Iowa football their strength

467
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: coach I think goes by Coach Doyle had been with

468
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Speaker 1: Kirk for friends or farends. I'm not I kind of

469
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: screw up his name. Uh for a long long time. Now,

470
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: Iowa football has had a lot of success under for

471
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Speaker 1: friends Farrands. Uh. Let's just say Kirk done a really

472
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Speaker 1: good job. They've won a lot games, They've produced a

473
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Speaker 1: lot of pros. They were just in the rose ball

474
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago against Stanford. It's been very

475
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: very successful. Well, it over the weekend got kind of ugly,

476
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: a lot of players coming out saying things like this

477
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: program is pro white guy and kind of anti black guy.

478
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: This program is very very hard on black guys in

479
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: the weight room, and the head coach had kind of

480
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: released a statement. There's a big difference between holding guys

481
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: to a high standard and being on guys than being demeaning,

482
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes it's a very slippery slope in

483
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Speaker 1: these situations in a weight room, specifically when it comes

484
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Speaker 1: to football, because when it comes to the weight room

485
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: and football, it's a huge part of the sport, much

486
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: much more than basically every other sport. Right It's you

487
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: can't play the majority of positions without dedicating yourself to

488
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: the weight room, you know, eight to nine months a year,

489
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Speaker 1: and it's not always fun. You're pushing around heavy heavy

490
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Speaker 1: weights and you're getting yelled at, and there is a

491
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: fine line right where you're pushing a guy and you're

492
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: on a guy, and you're even giving a guy a

493
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: hard time and kind of crossing the line. And I'm

494
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: not shocked to see these situations come out. I would

495
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: imagine we see more and more of them as players

496
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: become empowered to speak uh. And it'll be fascinating to

497
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: me if a prominent player who's in the NFL comes

498
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: out against one of their coaches or one of their

499
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: programs and says things that were said to him, they're

500
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: just gonna be offensive things that are said in the

501
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: sport of football, in the coaching of football. And there

502
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: is a fine line between, Like even when I say

503
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: offensive might be too strong a word. Things that could

504
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: definitely be deemed as offensive that would not be said

505
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: in the insurance office, that would not be said in

506
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, in a card dealership. Things are just gonna

507
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: be said in a weight room that are gonna be

508
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: whoa if if you take them out of context, and

509
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: then they're gonna be things that are said they're just

510
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: playing raw him that the guy would just just be

511
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: a racist. I don't know. I know that term gets

512
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: thrown around a lot right now, being a racist. And

513
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: I've always thought when it comes to social media and

514
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: some of the stuff I've struggled, I don't I don't

515
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: do well with that because I think people get labeled,

516
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: And it's just I'm not comfortable saying one guy is

517
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: or one guy is that when I don't know him,

518
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: I've never been around him. But the Iowa situation feels

519
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: like it's got a chance to be a little ugly.

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00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing with I read the head coach

521
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: allows had a had a mandate on all their players.

522
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: They weren't allowed to tweet. Well, once the blowback came,

523
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: now they're allowed one tweet. I guess a month. It's

524
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: just like, what is going on here? Now? I'd say this,

525
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: I have a football is good. So whatever he's doing

526
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: does work. And I think sometimes things that make people

527
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable on the outside work for that program.

528
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: Now do you have to adapt? You gotta get with

529
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: the times. Can you not allow your players to tweet

530
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty, especially when you have a

531
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: lot of black players and everything that's going on with

532
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter feels, you know, a little overkill. I

533
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: I'd say mildly, But like, who am I to say

534
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: that that, hey, coach had a lot of success. He

535
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: kind of knows what he's doing. Not really my style. Uh,

536
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: And it doesn't feel like it's the next guy, we're

537
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Dabbo Sweeney, who's taken a lot of

538
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: heat for kind of being silent during this period of time.

539
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: And uh, I know he wore a block he wore

540
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: a football Matters T shirt. I think over the weekend

541
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Speaker 1: someone tweeted it out, took a picture. It kind of

542
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: went viral. Uh, Listen, I I am not very religious,

543
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: and I know people in the South clearly are, so

544
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: I try to do this with everything, put myself in

545
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: other shoes. I would say I'm pretty agnostic, though, if

546
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: you're really religious, I respect it. I mean, we don't

547
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: all have to. You might think I'm crazy. We all

548
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: think differently, and clearly A big part of Dabbo is God,

549
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: and it's something that really throw lives in the South.

550
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: They talk about God. He talks about God in the

551
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: sec it's a big deal. And the Pact twelve. We

552
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: don't talk about it like that out here. If if

553
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: you were like the head coach at USC Oregon and

554
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: we're kind of talking like Dabbo, people look at you

555
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: a little weird. Now, if you want like Dabbo, people

556
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't care you talk however you want it. But in

557
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: the South, that's just kind of to me, the price

558
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: of admission talking like that, and then if you win,

559
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: it's just a double whammy. But I think Dabbo has

560
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: been a little out of touch on this deal wearing

561
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: that shirt and listen, I know Trevor Lawrence was tweeting

562
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: that the football matters, he'd been wearing that shirt forever.

563
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: But this is the same thing. Back to Drew Brees,

564
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes when you're so rich and you're

565
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: so powerful, uh, I think he's just naturally loose touch.

566
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Speaker 1: It's just especially in an off season, when you're not

567
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: around other people, like humans were not meant to be

568
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: doing this, be isolated from our the people we work with.

569
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: If you're a coach, from your team, this is not normal.

570
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: While some people in the media celebrate this, most of

571
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: us don't want this. They would like to be around

572
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: their team. But when you're Drew Brees, when your Dabbo,

573
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: you have an unlimited amount of money and you're just

574
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: hanging out with your family for three straight months, maybe

575
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: you're just not quite locked into what's really going on

576
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: in the real world. In your fifteen thousand square foot house,

577
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: you got second homes, you're flying private to go vacation.

578
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean most of us, you know, we go to

579
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: the grocery store, we check into United Uh, we don't

580
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: have that much. You know, square footage isn't that big

581
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: for all of us. So I I think you see

582
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: sometimes like, come on, guys, let's let's pull our head

583
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: out of our rear end and let's get a feel

584
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: for society right now, and I think Dabbo feels a

585
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: little and I'm gonna, I'm gonna listen. Dabbo has had

586
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Speaker 1: an incredible run. I'd say, beside Nick Saban, it's one

587
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: of the truly, you know, impressive runs we've seen in

588
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: the last decade, two decades. He's I mean, how he's

589
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: beating Nick Saban now multiple times right. Uh, he's big time.

590
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: He's probabably if you factor in age, he's probably the

591
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: number one because Nick, what is Nick have a year

592
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: or two left? I mean, Dabbo is in the peak

593
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: of his powers. Probably number one coach and all college football,

594
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: but you know a little more. And then he had

595
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: an issue where a coach had used the N word. Uh,

596
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: just just been a rough, little quarantine period for a

597
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: couple of weeks for the Clemson program, and obviously the

598
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: IOWA program. Sometimes these football programs, the head coach has

599
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: so much power. He lives in this little bubble because

600
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: no one can really say anything to him. Like in

601
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, you have a GM, you have an owner,

602
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: there's some balance. Like the head coaches Kirk and Dabble,

603
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: they're more powerful than the a D. They're more powerful

604
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: than everyone. They were at the top of the pyramid.

605
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: You think Nick Saban takes orders from the a D. Hell, no,

606
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. He tells the a D what to do.

607
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: That's not the way it works in the NFL. If

608
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: the owner wants something to happen, the head coach listens,

609
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: the general manager listens. The general manager and the head

610
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: coach balance each other out. Hell, the players have a

611
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: lot more juice, especially are good ones. They can balance

612
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: everyone out. There's more balance college football, there's no balance now.

613
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: When you get the right coach and Saban and Dabbo

614
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: in Urban it just works like they they set the top.

615
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: They do everything. But sometimes in these when times get weird,

616
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: if they're not quite up with what's going on, they

617
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: can look like an idiot. Fast uh Breaking News of Monday.

618
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, the star running back for the Minnesota Vikings

619
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: coming off a career year. Excellent player, I mean an

620
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: ideal zone runner, fast, physical, Uh just just a stunt.

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Speaker 1: I mean a legitimate starting, top five or six back

622
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Speaker 1: in the league. On you know, one of the better

623
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL says he will not show up

624
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: to training camp. He will not be anywhere to be

625
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: found until he gets a new deal. This is tough

626
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: because he's clearly one of their better players. They drafted

627
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: him in the second round, so they haven't really paid

628
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: him that much money. He's already had a major injury

629
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: since he entered the NFL. An a c L I

630
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: think was his rookie season. Might have been last year

631
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: regardless like he's had he tore his a c L

632
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL that I think it was. It was

633
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: last year, So it was two years ago, and like,

634
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Am I am? I giving this

635
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: guy Christian McCaffrey contract. I would hesitate doing that now.

636
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: I saw some people tweeting while Melvin Gordon, Levian Bell,

637
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: like I think this this team, I don't know anything

638
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: about this guy's character, but they view him as a

639
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: core piece of their operation. What are you paying him? Like,

640
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Speaker 1: I'm not giving him Zeke money, but he's gonna want

641
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Speaker 1: forty to fifty million dollars? Could I get him signed

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Speaker 1: for thirty million dollars, which essentially is just be a

643
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: three year contract, right, He's got one year left on

644
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Speaker 1: his deal and then and then two years kind of

645
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: an extension basically like fifteen a year. So three years,

646
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: forty five million guaranteed, like thirty five of it. Do

647
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Speaker 1: something like that. Um, it's it's clearly complicated because you

648
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be in the business of paying big

649
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Speaker 1: money to running backs. We we've seen it. It does,

650
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. It is. It is a risky proposition

651
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: with the upside by no means balances out the downside

652
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Speaker 1: because the downside is massive. Uh. And I think when

653
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: the dust settles, I think Minnesota is gonna have a

654
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a problem on their hands because they

655
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: need this guy to win. Cousins need this guy to function.

656
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Their offense kind of revolves around him. But there has

657
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: to be a price point and a number in which

658
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable before you just break Dalvin cook off. Okay,

659
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: let's let's dive into the middle. Coff mail Bag at

660
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Speaker 1: John middlecoff is the Instagram handle and fire your questions away.

661
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Speaker 1: Also got for those of you guys that like playing

662
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Speaker 1: to get a little Draft Kings game going UH for

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Speaker 1: the golf this weekend. I got a link in the

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Speaker 1: bio of my Instagram am if you guys like doing

665
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: a little daily fantasy golf, It's fun. Trust me. But

666
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Speaker 1: let's start with the first question. The Green Bay Packers

667
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: signed a buddy of mine out of Montreal University, Mark

668
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: and Toni di quax. I can't I mean, is a

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Speaker 1: Caucasian dB high like Caucasian dB that ran the forty

670
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Speaker 1: and four three five at his combine while being sick

671
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Speaker 1: give me all the measurable six which leads me to

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Speaker 1: my next question. Is there any way that the Packers

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Speaker 1: use him as a wide receiver instead of a dB

674
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Speaker 1: because of his physical attributes. Among all the dbs that

675
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Speaker 1: went in the UH the combined prior to this draft,

676
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: he wouldn't even rank first, and the three cone drill

677
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Speaker 1: he would have ranked first and three cone drill third

678
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Speaker 1: overall in the forty and sixth best in the shuffle.

679
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I think the Packers have a long history of signing

680
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: guys as undrafted free agents, and that's what I think

681
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: this guy was. Yeah, of just physics of freaks. They

682
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: like height, weight, speed, So your buddy six three two pounds,

683
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: he can run, and I just think you bring him

684
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: to camp and you work with him at different positions.

685
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: Now this year, for a guy like this becomes a

686
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: little more difficult. You know, you're not gonna be You

687
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: don't get the offseason, They don't get to try you

688
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: out of different positions once the team reconvenes. Whenever training

689
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: camp starts, you gotta get everyone on the same page

690
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: to start playing games. So it's it's gonna be difficult

691
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: for some of these undrafted free agents to kind of

692
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Speaker 1: get in the mix just because time is not necessarily

693
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: gonna be on their side. But I think the Packers

694
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: just have a long history of taking guys with really

695
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: really good measurables. Does holding out help or hurt Dalvin Cook,

696
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: It didn't work, uh for Levian Bell or Melvin Gordon,

697
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: But then again, the Bikes need him more on their

698
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: offense than the other team's rosters do. Yeah, I mean,

699
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a balance. I think Melvin Melvin Gordon

700
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Speaker 1: clearly was just a placeable player, uh and he wanted

701
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: way too much money ended up not getting that much

702
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: for the Broncos Levian. They truly liked Levian as the player.

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00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: I think the person he had been in trouble. He had,

704
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: he had been suspended, he had had a major injury.

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Speaker 1: You know, clearly he wasn't anywhere near Antonio Brown in

706
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Speaker 1: terms of being a pain. But I don't think they

707
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: were sold on the guy giving them all that cash,

708
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: And part of it is just good business as a

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Speaker 1: running back because I'd say Levian in his peak, has

710
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: been better than Dalvin now Dalvin's. If I was ranking him,

711
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: I'd go Levian, Dalvin Melvin. But maybe maybe I'm wrong,

712
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: Maybe Dalvin Cook has a chance to be better than Levian.

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Speaker 1: Levian had some really good seasons, but Dalvin I'd I'd

714
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Speaker 1: put Dalvin Cook in the Levion category like he can

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Speaker 1: be that elite of a player. I would not put

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon in there. So I just think it becomes

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Speaker 1: complicated how much you pay running backs. But you're right,

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00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: they are, you know, just uh more dependent on Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 1: Me and my friends were having an argument the other

720
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Speaker 1: day on what was more important to a rookie quarterback.

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00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: I think that having more weapons at the skill positions

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00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: to help develop a quarterback faster, but he thinks it's

723
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Speaker 1: more important to piece. More important piece for a rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback is a solid offensive line. If you had to

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Speaker 1: give your young quarterback weapons or an old line, which

726
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: would be more beneficial, I would probably start with the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, because if he's protected, then he can just

728
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Speaker 1: make some place. Uh. If you have really good weapons

729
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: and you're running for your life, you're screwed. Now, it

730
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Speaker 1: depends what type quarterback I have. If I have a

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, a Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, a guy that's

732
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Speaker 1: really really Athleticshaun Watson, maybe I take my chances with

733
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Speaker 1: elite skill guys. But if my guy is more of

734
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Speaker 1: a Jared Goff, all the older quarterbacks, you know, the

735
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: the Rivers, the Roethlisberger could move, but the last five

736
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Speaker 1: or six years he's not really moving. Brady Manning, guys

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Speaker 1: like that, you would choose offensive mine for sure. You know,

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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, you clearly want both. I think

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00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: you gotta protect the guy. Now. If you don't have either,

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00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: you get like Sam Donald, right, you just have a

741
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: disaster and that's not what you what you want. You

742
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: want to protect the player. Trying to think of an example,

743
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Speaker 1: I think the offensive line. You definitely want an offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Love the pot from the history, from what history has

745
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Speaker 1: shown us. Do you think there is any chance the

746
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: Patriots could have a sneaky cellar stellar season and find

747
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: themselves in the Super Bowl again, even with a depleted roster,

748
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Speaker 1: If any coach can somehow find a way to capitalize

749
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Speaker 1: on the situation that the coronavirus prandemic has presented, it's

750
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Speaker 1: got to be Belichick. What are your thoughts? I would

751
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: say never, say never, but depending on Brian Hoyer slash

752
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham to me, is enables them or I guess

753
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: will limit their ability to a Super Bowl run. Now,

754
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: could they still win the division? Yes, their defense is

755
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: gonna be good. They have great coaching staff. You're right,

756
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: Belichick if anyone's gonna pivot. But they could barely beat

757
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: my Homes when they had Brady and Kron. Now they're

758
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: gonna beat him like they're gonna be able to outscore

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00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Uh. You know the Buffalo Bills last year.

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00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: Brady had some big moments in that Patriot game, especially

761
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: the home game. I I don't know. I I think

762
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: it'll be tough. Now. I think they'll compete to make

763
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: a wild card, and I think they're gonna be you know,

764
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Speaker 1: when the dust settles, they're gonna be right in the

765
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Speaker 1: wild card mix. Come come almost like Friday, come December,

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Speaker 1: super boy. I can't see that though. Can you imagine

767
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: if Belichick were to win the Super Bowl with Jared Stidham,

768
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Speaker 1: there would be or just got to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I'd say if he got to the a f C

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Speaker 1: Championship Game with Jared Stidham, it would be one of

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Speaker 1: the most remarkable accomplishments we've ever seen him professional sports.

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Speaker 1: Because I get Brady he gets there with with Tampa,

773
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Speaker 1: you'd go, yeah, it was impressive, But Bruce arians had success,

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00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: they got stud players, Tom is the goat. You'd get it.

775
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I think most people are saying, yeah, babbit,

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Speaker 1: Belichick might not even make the playoffs. What's your take

777
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: on sports memorabilia. If you could pick one iconic piece

778
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: of sports history for your personal collection, what would it be.

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00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm not a big sports memorabily guy. I have a

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Speaker 1: frame picture of Michael Jordan's that my uncle got signed.

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Speaker 1: He played golf with them in the nineties, as she

782
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: watched on the Last Dance, Jordan played golf with anybody.

783
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Speaker 1: I got a couple of pictures, one of Pebble Beach

784
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Speaker 1: and one of Augusta behind me. That's about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I got a picture of Jack Nicholas, the Golden Bear,

786
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Speaker 1: the golfer that he my dad used to fish with,

787
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Speaker 1: this guy who knew him, and he signed it for me.

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Speaker 1: But my mom put it in front of the sun

789
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Speaker 1: and the sun he also fished with. Nick Faldo, got

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Speaker 1: that signed as out you can still see that. You

791
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Speaker 1: can't see the Golden Bears. So yeah, I mean, I

792
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Speaker 1: just those are free, you know. I I don't have

793
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay for things, though I understand people that do.

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00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: If I could have one piece of sports memorabilia, you know,

795
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: maybe like a Brady Super Bowl jersey of Montana super

796
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Bowl jersey. Uh, maybe like a picture of Tiger Woods winning,

797
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, the two thousand nineteen Masters signed something like that,

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00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: just like frame pictures for that look cool to go

799
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Speaker 1: in my in my room now, you know, the Babe

800
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: Ruth baseball something like that would be pretty freaking cool,

801
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: or like a Vince Lombardi. Something with Vince Lombardi, I'd

802
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: say baby or Muhammad Ali like signed gloves would be

803
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: pretty badass. I mean there there there are a lot

804
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: of options. Mickey Mannell like I signed that. Do you

805
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: think the Lions have a shot for a turnaround season

806
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: similar to the Niners a year ago? While I have

807
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: the doubts about the stability of the Lions organization in

808
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, both teams had parallels, including their starting quarterback

809
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: missing the majority of the previous season, had a top

810
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Speaker 1: three draft pick, and had coaching continuity coming into the season.

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Speaker 1: Well true on that. Here's what I'd say is the difference.

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Speaker 1: If I gave every single person listening the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: hire a coach offense, defense, head coach, whatever, and I

814
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: gave you two humans. One was Kyle shan Even before

815
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: last year, I said Kyle Shanahan or Matt Patricia. Every

816
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: single human listening to this, including Justin who asked me

817
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Speaker 1: this question, would take Kyle Shanahan. I think the coach

818
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: is dramatically better in Patricia. The players like him. He's

819
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Speaker 1: just Patricia's like making them practice outside when they're playing

820
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: at a dome. Feels a little lost. The top three pick,

821
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Speaker 1: so you gotta kuda. If Akuda turns into a star,

822
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a superstar. Year one Pro Bowl, All

823
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Speaker 1: Pro level guy. Nick Bosa was elite as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Uh here's what else the forty niners at. They had

825
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: an elite defense last year and their pass rush was dominant.

826
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Speaker 1: Is a Lion's passed for us that good? They had boasted,

827
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: They had Armstead, they had Buckner, and they got a

828
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Speaker 1: little bit of d fort They had the best running game,

829
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Speaker 1: or one of them in the league. I guess Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson the Ravens did, but they I think they were

831
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: top three or four rushing team in the league. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Lions passing attack, I'd say the last feels like

833
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: the last handful of years when Stafford was on the field,

834
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Speaker 1: or you know, right when they when they had Golden Tate,

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Speaker 1: when they had uh, Marvin Jones. They they've had other

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Speaker 1: dudes that were legit. I mean they they can you know,

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00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: they had I guess Ebron didn't really do that much there,

838
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: but they could always score throwing the football. They were

839
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: potent a couple of years ago. I just I don't

840
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: know if the balance is going to be there, so

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Speaker 1: I no, I don't see the parallels, to be honestly, bro,

842
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Speaker 1: I'm listening to three and Out and hearing you talk

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Speaker 1: about your A C being out home. Depot is window

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Speaker 1: units that just plug into the wall, not too expensive,

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Speaker 1: L O L. I probably need to get one of those.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to have the I bought. I had

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Speaker 1: to get a new motor. They were supposed to install

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Speaker 1: it today. Of course it hadn't showed up coronavirus. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, and uh, luckily it wasn't that hot today.

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Speaker 1: It was cold all weekend, so I've trapped the cold,

851
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: the the coolness in my place. So it's like ninety

852
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: degrees or excuse me, it's like seventy degrees and it

853
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: feels fine, But the heats come in the next couple

854
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: of days. Now it may or may not be going

855
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: down to play, you know, Spyglass on Wednesday, so that's

856
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be the hot day. I'll be out playing

857
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: a little golf, you know. But other than that. Last

858
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: I talked to the guy earlier today Friday, What are

859
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: you gonna do? I actually need to call the guy.

860
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm a Marine war veteran and wanted to say thank

861
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: you for your words and World Day. I listened to

862
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: many podcasts and you were the only one to remind

863
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: everyone that it was moral Day is actually about thank

864
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: you for my question. Why is it so hard for

865
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: the NFL to find accurate kickers? Because and I'm just

866
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm very pro military, which feels weird.

867
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: I get, you know, everything gets so splintered right now

868
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: with everything that's going on in the country, Like you

869
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: can be all encompassing, which I feel I am, But

870
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of kickers. The accuracy doesn't

871
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: translate from college to the pros. Sometimes it does, sometimes

872
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't. You know, we see guys elite players get drafted.

873
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: The other thing is kicking is not as much about talent,

874
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: like once you're one of the top kickers in college,

875
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: you have the talent. It's so mental. To me, It's

876
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: like golf. It's like hitting in baseball. If you lose

877
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: your confidence and the Unlike kicking and hitting in baseball,

878
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get an unlimited at bats. If you're

879
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: a good player, you're gonna start missing kicks. You're gonna

880
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: cost the team games because in the NFL, the game

881
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: hims are determined. Even when good teams play bad teams.

882
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: There there aren't that many blowouts in the league. You're

883
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: in a lot of games. So if your kicker misses

884
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: two or three field goals and you lose by eight,

885
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: you're like Jesus, he hits those three, we win. It

886
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: happened to the kid in Tampa Bay. And it can

887
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: just snowball on a player so fast, like most kickers

888
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: have that. Once you get drafted, you have the talent,

889
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: then it's just mentally. Can you not go into the

890
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: tank when you miss a couple of kicks? A lot

891
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: of guys can't. Who would who in your mind has

892
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks based on division? Do you think you

893
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: could rank them from best to worst? Uh, that's a

894
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: good question. I would stay at the top of my head.

895
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean would probably be the NFC West. You have

896
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who's you know, probably the second best quarterback

897
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: in the league. You have Jimmy Garoppolo and Jared Goff.

898
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's shipping on Jared Goff. He's had a

899
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: pretty career of these last three years. Check the numbers,

900
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy was a top twelve quarterback and Kyler Murray is

901
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting young players. Uh. If I'm

902
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, Roger Stafford, Kirk

903
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: Cousins not bad, Whence Dak who else? The Redskins and

904
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones probably not? You got Breeze, Brady Matt Ryan,

905
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: That's pretty damn good. That's actually really good. Uh, It's

906
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to do off the top of my head.

907
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: I'd say the a f C, West Car, Drew Lock

908
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: probably not. We don't know the Chargers and Mahomes is

909
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: like sweet, but I don't the other three guys. I mean,

910
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: Car has been up and down, Drew Lock, who knows.

911
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Maybe, Uh, you know, have to

912
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: dive into that a little later. Been wanting to d

913
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: m me for a while but just kept pushing it off.

914
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Great podcast, Really is any chance to bump into three

915
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: times a week? Maybe this fall? We'll see. Now for

916
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: the real question, I've been thinking how the NFC has

917
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: been more dominant than the a f C for some

918
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: time now, just thinking it out of left field. Wouldn't

919
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: it be kind of a cool, crazy idea if they

920
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: swap teams in the conferences. Keep East and East, West

921
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: and West, but swap the NFC to the a f

922
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: C vice versa. I know it would never happen, but

923
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: don't you think it would be one hell of a ride.

924
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: So like you just would randomly put the a f

925
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: C West would become the NFC West and the a

926
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: f C West, or the NFC West would become the

927
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: a f C West. Just do a couple of those.

928
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think it's pretty clear that they

929
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: already kind of do intermix. The great part about football

930
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: is you play your division twice, you play one other

931
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: division in your conference, and then you always play another

932
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: division in the other conference, so you have so much

933
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: intermixed conference. You know, to conference, you get a lot

934
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: of NFC and a f C games throughout the year.

935
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: I really don't think you need to do that. I

936
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: think part of it has just been the coaching has

937
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: been a little bit better top to bottom in the NFC. Uh,

938
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: the star quarterbacks Russell Wilson Aaron Rodgers now been dominating

939
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: in the NFC for a while. I mean, the fortys

940
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: have had some good teams over the decade. The Rams,

941
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: once McVeigh showed up. You know, the Eagles have consistently

942
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: been pretty good. Uh, You've had Drew Brees, Matt Ryan

943
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: to go with Russell and Aaron Rodgers. I think it's

944
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: just kind of a quarterback thing. It really is just

945
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of off the top of my head. The NFC East,

946
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: the NFC South, the NFC North. Yeah, just listen to

947
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: your most recent episode, uh episode in your bid about

948
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: Nick Foles coming to the Bears, and noticed that as

949
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: a Bears fans that dominated much of the media cycle

950
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: surrounding the team. One thing that I really think is

951
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: going under the radar is the additions to an already

952
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: arguably elite defense. Leonard Floyd was an obvious bust, and

953
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: now we're bringing in someone with a pass rushing acumen

954
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: of Robert Quinn. Additionally, we drafted Jalen Johnson to replace

955
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: Prince Almokamara, who was noticeably aging. I think these two

956
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: additions to an already powerhouse unit can catapult them to

957
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: a top three, probably top one defense in the league. Thoughts, Yeah,

958
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: I think their defense should be better than last year.

959
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: I thought Khalil underachieved. I think he was banged up. Uh,

960
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: you had ro Quwan and Danny Trevi can get injured

961
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 1: at different times, but when those two guys are healthy

962
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: with Khalil with a Kiem Hicks with Robert Quinn, with

963
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson with fuller Jalen Johnson was a really good

964
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: player at Utah. Tall long corner fits what Chuck's looking for.

965
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: They have the talent to be a really really good defense.

966
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: To me, they their defense last year, while it wasn't

967
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: as good as the previous year with Fangio, was not

968
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: the problem. I mean, their problem last year was Mr Bisky.

969
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: So if they get better quarterback play, they got a chance.

970
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the Broncos this year? Have

971
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: a friend that's a huge Broncos fan and he is

972
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: talking a ton of ship about how good they're gonna be.

973
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: This friends wants me to bet one thousand dollars and

974
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: the Broncos will win ten games this year. Vegas has

975
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: their win total at seven and a half, which leads

976
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: me to taking the bet. Uncle Colin is super high

977
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: on the Broncos and make some valid points that have

978
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: me pumping the brakes. What are your thoughts do I

979
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: take the bet? I think that they win above seven

980
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: and a half now do they win ten? They won

981
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: seven last year. Uh, they're betting to me if they're

982
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a ten win team, you're basically just gonna

983
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: say Drew Locks really good or it just has a

984
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: really good season. It might the numbers might not bear

985
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: it out because they're gonna be a run heavy team.

986
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: But they added Jerry Judy, they drafted a little guy

987
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: from Penn State, they got fant, they have a defensive

988
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: head coach, they add Pat Shermer Listen, I I can't

989
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: make some definitive statement about Drew Lock, though the little

990
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: bit you watch of him, he looked really good. And

991
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm very high on Fangio. Their defense is gonna be good.

992
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: You get Bradley Chubb back off the a c L.

993
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to say that the broncho

994
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: Us have a good you know, win ten games and

995
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: make the wild card. Due to the pandemic, there has

996
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: been speculations that the CFL could contention could potentially fold

997
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: if they do not play this season. What is your

998
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: opinion on if the NFL were to acquire four or

999
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: five franchises Saskatchewan, Winnipeg, Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary. I know this

1000
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: seems outlandish due to the weather, their government, and the

1001
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: fact that it would take some time to build four

1002
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: to five new rosters of NFL talent. But if the

1003
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: NFL does intend on expanding one day, it seems it

1004
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: would be easier to expand with teams that already have stadiums,

1005
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: built in, fan bases and their own prior histories. My

1006
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: final comment is some Canadians already feel that once the

1007
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: NFL ultimately moves to Toronto, the CFL will become obsolete

1008
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: at that time. That's a good question. I can't speak

1009
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: on if they move to Toronto, if that's inevitable or not.

1010
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it is a lock to be inevitable

1011
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: that they end up in Toronto, but maybe I'm night Eve.

1012
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: I think there's zero chance and then buying five Canadian

1013
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: franchises zero, I mean none, Uh, I just I don't

1014
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: know anything. Just my initial gut when I read that

1015
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: was like, I can't see them purchasing the Canadian teams

1016
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: in the Canadian Football League. Now, you're probably right, there

1017
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: would be some built in advantages. They have stadiums, they

1018
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: have fan bases. I'd have to you know, Winnipeg, Saskatchewan

1019
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: how big are these cities. I'd have to google them all.

1020
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: You know, the the NFL is not in the business

1021
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: of expanding into smaller markets, right they went to l A.

1022
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: The only reason they left the Bay Area for Vegas,

1023
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: which is a smaller market, was just you got a

1024
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: free stadium and Vegas is an expanding market. But I

1025
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: think market size is really really big. It's why Toronto

1026
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: would make sense. I don't know about the the other teams.

1027
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: People keep talking about the Broncos offense and how it

1028
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: is loaded now this off season, but what do you

1029
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: think about their defense? Do they have the guys in

1030
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: the schemes to be a top ten defense? Well, like

1031
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: I said, you get Bradley Chubb back, you put him

1032
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: with von Miller, you immediately get one of the better

1033
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 1: pass rushing duos in the league. In theory, if Chub's healthy,

1034
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: he was really good as a rookie. I mean, Vaughan's

1035
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: a stud. Uh. You you have that safety that's one

1036
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: of the better players in the league, and sentence, you

1037
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: just have one of the best defensive minds in football.

1038
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: So if Vic Fangio is coaching your guys and you've

1039
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: got pass rushers, you're gonna be good. It's really that simple.

1040
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: If you've got pass rushers for Fangio, your defense is

1041
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: gonna be good. He makes average corners be good. He

1042
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: doesn't need star corners. He's got a star safety and

1043
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: he's got a good defensive line. So I think they

1044
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: could be a top ten defense for sure. Their success

1045
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: is gonna come down to the quarterback, who you know?

1046
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that much about. I watched

1047
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: him on a Q and a thing with Baker Mayfield

1048
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: on Instagram. He's pretty likable. I know. In the Black

1049
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: Lives Matters protests in Denver, did I think, uh? Was it?

1050
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: I forget who put it together? But Vaughan and he

1051
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: was there and they had fifty guys like that. To me,

1052
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: that was one thing that stood out. Fifty guys on

1053
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: the team showed up and the coaching staff. Maybe they

1054
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: got a pretty good thing going unity wise as a group,

1055
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: as a unit, as a team kind of feels like

1056
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: they like each other. So I'm I'm bullish on the

1057
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos this year for sure. I appreciate everyone listening, uh,

1058
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: and just keep chugging along in two thousand and twenty

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