1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: The Colt Show is presented by Microsoft Surface Copilot Plus 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: PC where every day is game day. Greatness in the 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: NFL starts long before kickoff. It's built in the quiet 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: hours of preparation and the discipline to turn insights into action. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts rely on Microsoft's Surface Copilot plus PCs 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: to turn preparation into performance. With real time AI powered 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: insights right on the sideline, coaches and players can make smarter, 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: faster decisions when it matters most. From the field to 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: the front office. Microsoft Surface Copilot Plus PCs are transforming 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: how the Indianapolis Cults prepare, strategize, and win. This isn't 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: just about football, It's about unlocking potential wherever the game 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: is played. It is my pleasure to be joined here 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: on The Colt Show by former Colts linebacker Jaquille Leonard Shack. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: How you doing, man, It's good to see you. 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm blessing how the favored as always? 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Man, Good to see you as well as always. I 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: miss hearing that. Uh, you know, whether whether you're opening 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: your media sessions in the locker room with that or 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. What are you up to now? 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Like? 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: What what? 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: What? 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: Kind of fills up your day, you know, as you 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I know you're back in in South Carolina, But what 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: are you kind of doing right. 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: Now besides being the husband and the father. Man, I'm 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: back at my high school volunteering, coaching and coaching at 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: the football with the football team, and now at the 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: football season though, where I'm the head JV basketball coach. 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: So just trying to, you know, just give back as 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: much as I possibly can and see if we can, 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: you know, find the next one. 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: To help them on their on their journey and just 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: show them away. 35 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Something you said was quote I was taught to never 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: forget where I came from. How has that shaped you 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: and how is that maybe driven you in your post 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: playing career. 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: For me, man, just to not forget where you come from. 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: Man, it just let you know that no matter what 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: you do or who you are, you always remember your 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: process of what you've been through, get where you get 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: where you're at. And for me being in a later view, 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: we're always being the smallest team. We've you know, majority 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: of the town living in poverty, stuff like that, and 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: then me making it out my job is to come 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: back and you know, give back to the town that 48 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: gave me absolutely everything, and just because of my my 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: my name, or what I've done with my career, it 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: doesn't make me any better than the next person beside me. 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: So I just love being back. 52 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: I love to give back to my community, to get 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: back to the kids and just show them that there 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: are some great athletes that's out here that got great 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: attitudes and you don't have to be arrogant to go 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: out and you know, put everything on tape and just 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: try to make them make sure they understand the right 58 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: way of doing things. 59 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: For you to be able to kind of give back 60 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: to the community, you know, do you ever think about, 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: like how impactful it is for those kids and maybe 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: think back to when you were a kid and thinking, 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: man if I had a you know, an all Pro 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: linebacker come through, like how impactful that would be. Is 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: that something that you know you think about too? 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Of course, of course I think about it all the time, 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: because you know, my brother playing in the NFL, on 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: him having his football camp and having guys come in 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 3: and just saying that, hey, you know, if he can 70 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: do it, you guys can do it. And I just 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: always wanted to, you know, just live up to the 72 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: expectation of being the best and just competing. And I 73 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: feel like with me being an All Pro linebacker and 74 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: being able to, for one and relate to these kids, 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: they're going through a lot of things that I went 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: through in my life. 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: A lot of these kids are battling some battles that 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know about. 79 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: And for me being who I am and you know, 80 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: I tell the kids all the time, I don't want 81 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: anything from you. I just want to see you succeed. 82 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: And I just want you to understand that you have 83 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: people who actually believe in you. So me being who 84 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: I am and being able to, you know, tell them 85 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: to these kids every single day, especially the kids that 86 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: don't have a lot of confidence in them sales right 87 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: now and me being you know, Shaq Leonard the maniac 88 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: NFL pro All Pro linebacker. If I'm telling you that 89 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: I believe in you, I think that that cares a 90 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: lot of wait for these kids who's battling a lot 91 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: of stuff. 92 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: Is that kind of what you find really rewarding about coaching? 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, just I promise you is. 94 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful thing for me to see the meeting 95 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: kid where he's at or she at and watched them 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: grow and watch them turn into something that I saw 97 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: potential but they didn't see it. And then once they 98 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: reached that that the happiness on their face, I mean, 99 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: it's undescribable of the joy that it brings me. The 100 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: CD kids live up to their expectation or do something 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: that they didn't know they was capable of doing. 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: So I know you you talk about volunteering coaching football. 103 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: When I looked at the roster of Lakeview High School, 104 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: it's a lot of players who are like playing both 105 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, like kind of smaller roster. So 106 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: are you teaching guys how to punch the ball out 107 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: and how to have ball security to not get the 108 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: ball punched out? 109 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: Like? 110 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: What what do you sort of when when you are 111 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: coaching football? What sort of pointers are you giving? Tips? 112 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: Are you are you lending these kids? 113 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: Uh? Basically both. 114 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: I mean if I'm on the officer the side of 115 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: the ball, because I have fought with the receivers as well, 116 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: and my biggest thing is you know, four points of pressure, 117 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: elbow lock, class pin, evil call everything. And then on 118 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: the opposite side of it, when I'm coaching my defense, 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: coaching the linebackers. You know, I'm letting them know once 120 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 3: they see their air pocket of when to take the punch, 121 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: when not to take the punch in you. 122 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: Know, just having the ball on your mind twenty four 123 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 2: to seven. 124 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: So just trying to teach them ball security and what 125 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: it means to win and turn over race turnover about 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: them and what it means to you know, make sure 127 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: that you taking care of the football on the off 128 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: side of the ball. 129 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: And it's good to learn. 130 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: It's good to kind of go with you know what 131 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: I've been taught listening to the offensive meetings and listening 132 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: to flues talk about taking the ball away in once 133 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: you love it so much here, it's so much you 134 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: can understand. And once you understand that, as the coach, 135 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: is easier to explain and show the kids how to 136 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: do it. 137 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: I remember I did. I talked to you for an article. 138 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: This was I mean, my first year with the Colts 139 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: was twenty twenty one, the year you had eight forest fumbles, 140 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: and I remember talking to you like early in the 141 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: season about like your process for getting the ball out. 142 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Everyone see, you know, everyone saw that result in your career, 143 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: right of getting all those balls and you know, the 144 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: maniac knockout all that, But what was the process that 145 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: you had to go through to be able to do that? 146 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: You know, in the six days leading up to that 147 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: one moment in the game where you punch the ball 148 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: and it hits the ground. 149 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: Oh Man, just film study, film study and understanding the 150 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: ball carrier and understanding the run gaps of when you're 151 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: going to be able to get a punch, Like a 152 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: lot of my punches came. 153 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: Out of dual more of Bairey plays me. 154 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: Shooting through the a gap, and a lot of times 155 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: it's me coming back in and they're eyes are more 156 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: so upfilled and they never see me coming left and 157 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: right or right or left. 158 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: And then I'm able. 159 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: To punch through that elbow, punch through that wrist where 160 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: he's having that ball security at and I'm just making 161 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: sure that I'm able to punch through his body to 162 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: make sure that I can get my whole fists all 163 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: the way through. 164 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: And it's just more so off of film study, understanding. 165 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: Okay, who has really good ball security like Deck Henry 166 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: I never got I played him twice a year for 167 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: about six years, and I never got a punch out 168 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: of him. He had a really good ball security, but 169 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: a lot of teams that we play against they're not 170 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: taught ball security. And for me, I wasn't afraid of 171 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: getting raned over. I knew I was already a smaller linebacker. 172 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: I knew I wasn't gonna bring a big punch in 173 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: my tackle, but I was gonna get you down. And 174 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: a lot of times when runner backs have the ball 175 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: when they go to run you over, their shoulders go 176 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: forward and that brings that air pocket with the ball 177 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: and just be able to take a bunch. So just 178 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: trusting what you see and not being afraid of to 179 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: go out and make a punch for you, Tam. 180 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Did you something you told me too is you would 181 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: get like numbers or almost like stats on like how 182 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: often a ball carrier carries it in the right hand 183 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: versus their left hand. It seemed like there was like 184 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: to do this at a high level. The thing I 185 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: wanted to just communicate is that it doesn't just happen 186 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: right like you. You had to do a ton of 187 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: work just to get to that point. 188 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's a lot that goes into it. 189 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: I mean we have some great guys at the coach 190 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: with the analytics of letting us know what ball, what 191 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: hand does he carry the ball in? And then at 192 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: the time, you know, Coach Flew, every day in practice 193 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: you had to take a punch at the ball over 194 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: and over and over again, and so it was constantly 195 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: talked about twenty four to seven. So then I mean, 196 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: it's always just about repetition at that point. So then 197 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: when you get in the game, you don't practice it. 198 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: You practiced that one shot a million times. So then 199 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: by the time you get that opportunity, it just comes 200 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: second nature to you. And it's not like you go 201 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: out and say, okay, on play too on, punch at 202 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: the ball. It's just having that confidence to say, okay, 203 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: I see the ball, I see the air pockets, take 204 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: a punch at it right here. 205 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite one of those? 206 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 3: Of course, of course rookie year, rookie year against against 207 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: the Raiders, we're. 208 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: Going back and forth ball game. 209 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: Offense just scored to give makers go up and I 210 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: think it was like five minutes forty eight segments going 211 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 3: on the ball game they run. We call it blitz 212 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: kick for his goal to the defensive right. We blitzed 213 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: and it just opened up Doug Martin had the ball 214 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: in his in his right hand and I come in 215 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: with a tomahawk punch to try to steal the win. 216 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: And by far that's my favorite one because of the 217 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: pressure moment it was and me being that young and 218 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: actually doing that is that's by far one of them, 219 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: if not my favorite player of my career. 220 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: I see, that's a good one because I was thinking 221 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: you might say the one in twenty against Houston, kind 222 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: of same thing, pressure moment, Watson's scrambling right to the 223 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: goal end, like if you don't make that punch out, 224 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: the Colts might not make the playoffs that year. 225 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: Is out another one, That one there is my favorite 226 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: hustle teach tape, okay, because I feel like for me, 227 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: I was over in the flat on the other side 228 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: of the field and then once the ball went you 229 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 3: know a lot of people would have just quit on 230 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 3: that play and say, hey, it's you know, let somebody 231 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 3: else make the play. And me being who I am 232 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: and being taught, they never watched the play, be a 233 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: part of the play. Being there getting that ball out 234 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: in Lucas Oil on the one yard line. The Sili win, 235 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: Now that was that was a great feeling as well. 236 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: Too when you watch games, whether it's a colts game 237 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe you just see a highlight come 238 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: across social media. I know, like Charles Tillman was always 239 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: like he would always retweet your punch outs, like, now 240 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: you're kind of the next in that generation. Do you 241 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: look for those? Do you seek those out? And are 242 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: you almost like, you know, are you proud? Are you 243 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: you know how cool is it to see other guys 244 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: maybe following your lead with some of those plays now 245 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL, of. 246 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: Course, man, I mean watching football for me is you know, 247 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: once you see it, it makes you happy because you know, 248 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, Charge Telling was the first one, and that's 249 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: you know, doing the punches. And then you know, once 250 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: I came around, that's when I feel like I made 251 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: it popular or made it common to actually do it. 252 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: And now you know, see it back watching. 253 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: Games and seeing guys punch the ball out, especially your 254 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: former teammates, that's what really makes you happy to see. 255 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: And then you got guys like Fred. 256 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 3: Wanner Man, who's you know, a looks like a missile 257 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden taking the clean punch 258 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: and getting the ball out. 259 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: It makes me happy and it makes me, you know. 260 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: I always shoot the guys in tests if I see 261 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: a punch out and stuff, you know, reach out to 262 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: Fred because it's great to see the game involving in 263 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: that way and seeing guys actually truly focusing in and 264 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: getting the punch out. 265 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: How have you seen the linebacker position evolve? Maybe even 266 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: since like you got in the league in twenty eighteen. 267 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: There's just more playing in space. You know, there's a 268 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: lot of times there's no more whereas not a lot 269 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: running between the tackles is more so the now game 270 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: is more so in space. And now seeing guys truly 271 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: being able to cover tighty ends and be able to 272 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: you know, drop and you know, cover a slot receiver. 273 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, that's what the game is 274 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: really evolving to more so a passing league, and the 275 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: guys are being able to play and on all three 276 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: downs in the past game and being able to stop 277 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: and run. I feel like that's a great asset to 278 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: have because a lot of people on can play rundowns 279 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: and some people on can play passing downs. And now 280 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: the evolving of linebackers, guys are running fast, they're tackling 281 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: in space and that's that's one of the keys right 282 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: now that you see a lot of miss taples in 283 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: open space and a really good linebackers really sit down 284 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: and take a take a clean shot. And that's what 285 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: is today's linebackers are evolving needing to do. 286 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: It feels like linebackers the position in the NFL that's 287 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: like put in conflict the most by an opposing offense, 288 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: whether it's the RPO game, the play action game, kind 289 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: of the rise of those two things. What do you 290 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: have to be aware of as a linebacker? Knowing it surpassingly, 291 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: but knowing teams are going to try to attack you 292 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: as a player in your position there, Yeah. 293 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: Man, it's I feel like just on film study, you 294 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: understand that you know, you underform, You understand. 295 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: The scheme of what the opposing team is going to do. 296 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: So in your mind you go in knowing the play, 297 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: but you always have to know the play and. 298 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: Expect something else. 299 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: So even if you see the run, Okay, yes, I'm 300 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: in my run responsibility, but I'm not getting downhill fast 301 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: enough because I know if he do the RPO, I 302 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 3: gotta be here on the outside to help my guy 303 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: and make the tackle. So it's just kind of knowing 304 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: and understanding and just having instincts because a lot of 305 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: times you see a lot of people just, you know, 306 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: shoot downhill when the quarterback is wanting you to go 307 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: down here, So it just hat where you just left from. 308 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: So it's just a lot of cat and mouse game. 309 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: And once you kind of understand that, then you can 310 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: kind of bake the quarterback to do what you want 311 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: the quarterback to do. 312 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: So, how do you watch football these I know you 313 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: tweet about the Colts all the time. Are you, like, 314 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: do you watch it as a fan? Do you still 315 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: watch it as like, you know, an NFL player who 316 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: understands what it takes to get on the field, Like, 317 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: how do you separate maybe the emotional aspect of watching 318 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: as a fan versus the like, I know what it 319 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: took for Zire Franklin, Jermaine Pratt, these guys to get 320 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday. 321 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: Well, if I'm watching the Coats, it's more so feels 322 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: like I'm still in the locker room, so to speak, 323 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: because I mean I'm still talking to the guys twenty 324 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: four to seven. So I'm watching it and I'm still 325 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: seeing it as as a teammate, So I understanding, I'm 326 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: understanding who they are, what they do, and I just 327 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: try to always come up with things and try to 328 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: help them out. 329 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: Or you know, shoot them up good like you did 330 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: a good job on this. 331 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: It's like I'm I'm just that friend, that that brother 332 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: that's always going to be there for you no matter what. 333 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: And then once I watch football outside of the Coats, 334 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: it's more so, Okay, let me understand the game and 335 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: you see what other teams are doing, understand the philosophy, 336 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: and then you can kind of compare in contrasts of 337 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: seeing you know what people are doing, and then it 338 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: helps me understand the game. But being with the Indianapolis 339 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: coach and with that locker room, understand what Kenny is 340 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: going through, Buck is going through, Cuban is going through. 341 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: So I'm watching that more so as my brothers and 342 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: everybody else. I'm watching that, you know, just as a 343 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: as a fan. 344 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: What have you enjoyed about watching this Colts defense this season? 345 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: After one, that excitement is back. I felt like when 346 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: I was there is from twenty eighteen. In twenty and 347 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: twenty one, we did so much, so much different fronts, 348 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: linebackers at defensive line and we splitz and left and right, 349 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: you don't know where it's going and causing so many turnovers. 350 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: And I feel like with this coach team now, this 351 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: is basically what you're seeing all over again. 352 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: You got the guys in the back end that can 353 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: play man man. 354 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: You got the middle guys that can do exactly line 355 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: up on a line of scrimmage, and then you can 356 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: you have the pass rushers that can actually line up 357 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: in any different position, like I saw a buck lining 358 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: up four yards off the ball, running up like those 359 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: are things that you have to do to kind of 360 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: you know, quote unquote, you know, mess with the scheme 361 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: of the offensive players. And I see the guys flying around. 362 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: For one, that's the biggest thing. For one, they're flying around, 363 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: and then they're making plays and calls and turnovers and 364 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing in ben But don't break. They're 365 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: getting in the red zone, they're getting stops. Make him 366 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: kick field goals. That's the big thing. And that's what 367 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: I'm loving to say. I'm loving how they're coming together 368 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: and playing for each other. 369 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: You had a tweet the other day those you know, 370 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: just like how he's able to get through these tiny 371 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: little holes. He gets so skinny through those holes. When 372 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: you look at him, and you obviously played to him. 373 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: You saw that twenty one season up close. You know 374 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: you see this one. Now. What makes him a special 375 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: football player? 376 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Man? 377 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: His for one, the way that he plays the game. 378 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: You know, there's no arrogance about it. He goes to 379 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: work absolutely every day. They do exactly what needs to 380 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: be done. And my thing is man his vision, his 381 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: vision is in it. 382 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: One thing that I've noticed this y is his patience. 383 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: He's more of a patient. 384 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: Runner now, somewhat like a Le'Veon bell with quite more 385 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: explosiveness out of it. 386 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: And I mean I've seen the first hand. 387 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: I can remember my first time practice in the gifts 388 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: of and I thought I had him dead. 389 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: Center in the hole and he went one way, I 390 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: went the other way. 391 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: So it's crazy to see, like his quickness, his footwork, 392 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: and then once he gets to the outside, his speed 393 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: is very dangerous and that's what makes him so special. 394 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: Then you pair that up with the offensive line, especially 395 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: on that fourth or down or third down player, when 396 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 3: you pull a Quentin Nelson out in front, you got 397 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: one big, skinny guy that nobody wants to see, and 398 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: then you got a guy that's even dangerous with the 399 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: ball behind him, and a lot of there's thirty one 400 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: teams in the NFL that do not want to see 401 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: that duo. 402 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: So and that's what makes them so special. 403 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: You're talking about JT and practice there like who is 404 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: the guy who over the course of your time with 405 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: the Colts, practicing against this guy who made you better? 406 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Who made you like? Who would you think about? It's like, man, 407 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: that guy was like a pain in the butt, But 408 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: I got so much better practicing against that guy. 409 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: Well, besides besides quarterbackers for one, I'm gonna say Andrew 410 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: Love and Philip Rivers with them being veterans and being 411 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: able to communicate with them and understanding what they're looking 412 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: at from a line for linebackers for so them for one, 413 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 3: and then Q and Bradner Smith and then Ryan Kelly. 414 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: That group right there was really really good up front. 415 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: So going and competing against them was something that made 416 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: me better each and every day and just having that 417 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: mindset of just competing and I feel like when we 418 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: had it in practice, it translated to the game and 419 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: I think it made me better going against all pros 420 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: and practice, So the ball game it really just felt easy. 421 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: Did those guys, like the offensive lineman, like you know, 422 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about being a little undersized, but you were 423 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: able to create leverage because of like your arm length, right, 424 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: Did that going against those guys teach you how to 425 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: create that leverage even though you were maybe one hundred 426 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: pounds lighter than some of those guys. 427 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: Yes, because for me, I was a true student of 428 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: the game, Like I wasn't My ego wasn't bothered for 429 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: me not to go ask questions. 430 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: So I go to cu say, hey, well y'all run bilty. 431 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: When y'all run that dual block, I know that your 432 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: guard a pused to climb up on a linebacker. What 433 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: makes you climb up and what makes you doumb So 434 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: then I understood that. And then when they run stretching 435 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: the stretch, okay, how far do they stretch? 436 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: And when they're supposed to cut? 437 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: So I'm always asking questions, and so now I understand 438 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: what's been taught in the offensive room. So then when 439 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: I get in the ball game, I know, okay, if 440 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: I shoot my gun right here, the balls just gonna 441 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: cut back. So now I kind of understood Okay, how 442 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: to play the game, how to slow it down, and 443 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: how to put myself and my team in position to 444 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: make a play. Just because of how I was taught 445 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: or how you know, Q or Philip or Andrew told 446 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: me what they're looking at from the linebacker. 447 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: So now I can tell the guys and we can 448 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: kind of be in the right position of to be 449 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: able to make a play. 450 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: That's that's super interesting. I want to ask you about 451 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: something from twenty eighteen, Zire shared this story the weekly 452 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: up up to your retirement. You know what it is. 453 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: You know what this one is the Washington game. So 454 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: for our our listeners and viewers, Zire was sick going 455 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: into that game, and he was snoring so loud that 456 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: you slept in the hotel room tub because you guys 457 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: are roommates on the road and you just want to 458 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: fill everyone in at you know, you slept in the tub. 459 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: And then what'd you do the next day? 460 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: A man? At this day? 461 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: Man, it was that this day I slipped in until whatever. 462 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: From that night I slept in until the very next day. 463 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: We're going to go playing against the Commanders Washington Redskins 464 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: at the time, and man, I go out there, I 465 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: have nineteen tacles, get my first career sack, I get 466 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: my first career Forrest Pomboo, and I have a nineteen 467 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: tackles that ball game, and then I get my first 468 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: win NFL win right there from sleeping. 469 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: Anytow, I I think a lot of people might have 470 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: the experience of sharing a hotel room with someone who's 471 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: snoring really loud, and going and sleeping in the tub 472 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: and feeling like absolute garbage the day after. I cannot 473 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: fathom doing any sort of physical activity after that. You 474 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: went out had nineteen tackles. What like when you reflect 475 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: on that, like, I mean, like I think me listening 476 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: to that, me hearing that I'm sure people watching and 477 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: listening to this, or like man like that is one 478 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: like mentally tough dude and physically tough dude. Like when 479 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: you reflect on that accomplishment and the circumstances that led 480 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: up to it, what what maybe hits you. 481 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: That there's no matter what the world throws at you, 482 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: you know you still gotta go out and do what 483 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: you're supposed to do. You have so many people counting 484 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 3: on you to go out and do your job, and 485 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: nobody cares about excuses They just want you to go 486 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: out here and compete and do exactly what you're supposed 487 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: to do. 488 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: And you got to understand that as a lot. 489 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: Of people that's counting on you, and it's no pressure 490 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: because you're prepared for this moment, and then you just 491 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: go out there and do exactly what you're prepare to do. 492 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm curious Shack about like the end of your career. 493 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: How do you think about it? How do you maybe 494 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: you know from the end of that twenty one season 495 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: through you know, the day you decided I'm done, How 496 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: do you think about that? 497 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: Heartbroken? 498 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: Very heartbroken? Imagine just being on top of the world, 499 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: doing exactly what you're supposed to do, working extremely hard, 500 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: You're taking care of your body, doing everything right. Now, 501 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: you're just coming off your best season ever. I think 502 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: I ended altogether like nineteen takeaways in twenty twenty one. 503 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: That's where force form was from returns interceptions. And then 504 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you go work out and you 505 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: feel like you're getting better, that the body's feeling really good, 506 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: going back into the OTA's and the next thing you know, 507 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: in Ota you got no power. There's no understanding of 508 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: how what went wrong. And then you spend four or 509 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: five months trying to figure out what is going on. 510 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: Then once you figure it out, you said, okay, you 511 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: gotta have surgery. Have the surgery, and then you can't 512 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: then live twist for six weeks, then you can't run 513 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: until another five months. And it was just that constant 514 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 3: over and over of trying to put into work and. 515 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: You just ultimately I couldn't get back to where I 516 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: was and it was just out of my controller. 517 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: That was the hardest thing for me was because I 518 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: was doing everything I was supposed to do and it 519 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: just got snatched away from me. And I know, the 520 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: big man upstairs mixed, you know, no mistakes, but you 521 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: still have them thoughts like why me, why can't I, 522 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: you know, continue to finish my career or at least 523 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: go out the way that I wanted to go out, 524 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: or go out on the field. And it was it 525 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: was heartbreaking up how it went down, you know, the bitterness, 526 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: you know between how it went and who it went 527 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 3: down with. Man, So it was heartbreaking. But when I 528 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: look back at it now, the only reason why I 529 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: can live with walking away is because I knew that 530 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: I gave it everything I got every time I touched 531 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: that field, and then whenever I was not on the field, 532 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: I was either on a treatment table or in a 533 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: treatment room or in the weight room trying to do. 534 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: What I needed to do to get back to being me. 535 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: But at the ultimate end, I can get back to 536 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: being me, like right now, I can. I can still 537 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: play it, in my opinion, but I could play maybe 538 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: at a mid range level. 539 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: And if I cannot be the best, I can't do it. 540 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: That's just me. 541 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 3: That's the ultimate competitor in me. But it's so up 542 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: For a long time. For a while, I couldn't watch football. 543 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: And then once I started coaching back at my high 544 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: school and being around these kids, they brought the joy 545 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: back to me. 546 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: It gave me a reason to get going. 547 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: It's first out in my life where I didn't have 548 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: a reason to get up and continue to. 549 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Grow as a human being. 550 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: But now now I got these kids back at the 551 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: high school, and I want them to succeed so much 552 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: because they're going through so much. That gives me that 553 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: motivation each and every day. So you know what I 554 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: got to bring it, you know, not for myself, but 555 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: for these kids because they deserve. 556 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: That is it was it almost like a grieving process 557 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: for you to like grieve the end of your career, 558 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, where you know people might ask you now 559 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: like are you okay, and it's like, you know, you're 560 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: you're you're maybe not okay, like it, you know, when 561 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: you lose a family member, it's like you're maybe not okay, 562 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: you just you kind of are almost. 563 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, most definitely. Yeah, it's grieving. Nobody tells you 564 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: about that part. You know. Everybody tells you about. 565 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: Retiring the NFL, the fun part, but nobody tells you 566 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: about the part when it stops. You know, when you 567 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: wake up saying, oh, man, like God, Lee, I wish 568 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 3: I can still play of you, you know, going out 569 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: putting your cleats on, pointing him and an light. 570 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: Nobody. 571 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: It feels like like you said something was it was 572 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: like a death. 573 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: You know. 574 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: It's hard to keep moving knowing that that's that's what 575 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: you love to do, that's what you enjoy to do, 576 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: and nobody tells you about the pain that you feel 577 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: when you wake up in the morning after nine surgeries 578 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: and at the age of thirty, you know, and. 579 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: It's just it's a lot. But I mean, if I 580 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: had to do it all over again. I do it 581 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: all over again. 582 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: And you know that's that's the beauty of the life 583 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: that we live is that you make a choice. You 584 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 3: live with a choice, and once you get done with, 585 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: you know, having that dream and having that go, you 586 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: get an opportunity to take a seat and just look about. 587 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: You know what you're doing or what you know, what 588 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: that opportunity gave you and your family. 589 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: And now I'm blessed. 590 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: Man. I could sit here in my home and family 591 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: is good, and it's a blessing. I'm not struggling for 592 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 3: nothing besides the pain that I feel sometimes, you know, 593 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: with my body. 594 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 2: But besides that, man, I'm happy. 595 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: I got a beautiful family, and I'm just happy to 596 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: be with my feet all right now. 597 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: How's how's your health right now? How you how's like 598 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: your body feel? 599 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: There is good days and then they're bad days. 600 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: Cold weather, cold weather hurts you know, of course in 601 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: the ankle, having the three ankle surgeons there, it's banging 602 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: up a little bit. 603 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: But yes, I'll be okay. 604 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you find yourself like missing the 605 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: most about being on a football team. I know a 606 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: lot of guys talk about like they missed the locker room. 607 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, locker room. 608 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: You you missed the locker room because there's so many 609 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: people that's in there are going through the same thing 610 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: that you're going through, and we find a way to 611 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 3: cope with everything that's the one inside the building and 612 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 3: life itself, and we find a way to you know, 613 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: have the moments where the world stops in. 614 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: Every playing corn hole. We're in there, playing ping pong. 615 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: We find out who really are there for you, because 616 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: I mean, in this world that we live in now, 617 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: and if you have any type of success like I did, 618 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: it's hard to find true, genuine people that's truly there 619 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: for you and not what you have, but what can 620 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: you give to them. And being in that locker room, 621 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: you know you have some true brothers in there, you know, 622 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: sitting in there just after a practice where everybody's tired, 623 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 3: everybody's feeling the same thing, like you miss those things. 624 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: You miss sitting in the meetings, and I missed, you know, 625 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: just learning football, Like I still talk to Dave Braganzi 626 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: all the time, like, hey man, if we're playing cover 627 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: three like boom boom, Like I'm always trying to communicate 628 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: and talk with football because. 629 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: You know, I love it. I love the game, and 630 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: I missed the competing aspect of it. 631 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: I can't compete against the high school kids, man, But 632 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: I mean, every once in a while they'll call me 633 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 3: out and then you know, I have to go out 634 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: there and show them, you know, show them what it is. 635 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: But you missed the competing part. I'm a competitor no 636 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: matter what it is. I just love to compete. And 637 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: that's that's what I'm truly missing in my life right now, 638 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: is being able to take this energy that I have. 639 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I can beat myself right now 640 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: because I'm so used to screaming. I'm used to just 641 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: letting all raw emotions leading all that, and I don't 642 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: have a place right now where I can just you know, 643 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: scream and just be me because now as a coach, 644 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: it brings that stress level of making sure that everybody 645 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: else correct and it's out of your control and just 646 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: sitting there watching. 647 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's tough, but I'll be good. I'll 648 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: be good. Yeah. 649 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, have you had an opportunity 650 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: to find an outlet for the maniac? But you know 651 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: it sounds like that's you know, that's something that you're 652 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: still kind of working through and still trying to figure out. 653 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, trying to work through it. Like I got 654 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: a lot of plans of you know, as I'm coaching 655 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: and as I'm being there, like I'm I just wat 656 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: with the football I mean basketball team. Now I practice 657 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: somewhat with them. I do the run and everything to 658 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: kind of bring that energy and just show them what 659 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: the energy really means and always tell them that, you know, 660 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: energy brings confidence, and confidence brings execution, and execution brings wins. 661 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: But it all starts with good energy. So I just 662 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: got to. 663 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: Make sure that they see me bring that energy every 664 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: day and having that underdog mentality, like I preach underdogs 665 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: to them, like, yes we are Lakeview, but we are 666 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: still always the one of. 667 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: The smallest teams, the smallest high school. 668 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: We gotta play both sides of the ball, like we 669 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: gotta take that with a lot of ownership and be 670 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: honorable to say, you know what, no matter what, I'm 671 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: gonna run through this brick wall. 672 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't care who it is or what it is, 673 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the job done. 674 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: And I feel like that's somewhat of how that maniac 675 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: persona is kind of getting out. 676 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make that cup. 677 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: Overflow to their to fill up their cups so then 678 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: they can have that sweating about themself and have the 679 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: conference and believe that they are who they are. And 680 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: once they can do that, I feel like that's any 681 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: kid could be the best version of their chef and 682 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: they believe in that. 683 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: I love that because, like you're you're leaving a legacy 684 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: for these kids in Lakeview. You know, if you coach them, 685 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: that's your legacy. I feel like, Shack, it might not 686 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: be I got coached, you know, by you know, I 687 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: had this relationship with this four time All Pro linebackers, 688 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Like no, I got coached by you know, Shaq, coach 689 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: Leonard whatever, whatever your kids call you. That's got to 690 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: be a really cool thing to be able to do, 691 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: to pass down and to you know, have that that 692 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: legacy that you'll always be remembered by in that community. 693 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 694 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: Man, it's oh man, it's it's amazing. I mean's pros 695 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: and cons. Of course, you know a lot of people 696 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: they will say, oh, you know, since he made it, 697 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: he thinks that he's did and that. But you know, 698 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: on the other side of it. You know, I'm there 699 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: just to be here forty kids and do absolutely what 700 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: I can, you know, forty kids. And like last year, 701 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: we were playing in for a lower state championship and 702 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: I played against this team. I actually lost to this 703 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: team in a lower state championship. 704 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: Game my senior year. And you know. 705 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: I'm they're just coaching out of the way and they 706 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: come on to allow speaker and say, hey, seq Leonard, 707 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: this this is for you, and it's like you knows 708 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: now it's more so as in, Okay, y'all, y'all gotta 709 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: understand that we are late to you, and teams already 710 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: gonna play us hard because we're late to view. But 711 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: now y'all adding me to the staff, they gonna want 712 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: to say that, you know, they beat me, and that's 713 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: gonna bring people that they they're gonna want to beat 714 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: me just off my name. So I got to make 715 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: sure that they bring it each and every day because 716 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: there's everybody want you. 717 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: Everybody want to beat this team. 718 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite moment from coaching, like over 719 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: the last year or so, Yes, and yes I do. 720 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: I had a kid. I had a kid. Last year, 721 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: we're playing against a team and he missed two tackles 722 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 3: at the end of the ball game, causing us to 723 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: lose the ball game, and he didn't play defense for 724 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: us another snap for that year. He comes back your 725 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: senior year this year here and we put him back 726 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 3: on defense, and I looked at him. I said, man, look, 727 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: you're gonna have an opportunity to prove yourself. 728 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: They're ever going to. 729 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: Try you just because of what you put on tape 730 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: last year. And first play, the first drive of the game, 731 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: they run a stop on the outside and he picks 732 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: it off and go for a pick sits first time 733 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: he did that, and right there, that moment, for that 734 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: moment for him was everything. But that moment for me 735 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: to see him grow up and actually make a play 736 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: where everybody thought that he couldn't like, that makes me happy. 737 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 3: That's why I do it, because it's I swear man. 738 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: It's like gonna get the cheeks now even just thinking 739 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: about it, because I mean, I just cared about the 740 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: kids so much, and yes, the wins and lost matters, 741 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: Yes I do believe that all they want to do 742 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: is win. But a lot of coaches forget that mentorship. 743 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 3: We got to be mentor mentors to these kids. We 744 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: gotta make sure that we understand that sometimes this sport 745 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 3: is their only outlet, that's all that they have. And 746 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: if we can make sure that they're happy while we 747 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 3: have them, it'll make them grow ten times more than 748 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 3: it would them just sitting down in the classroom somewhere 749 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 3: and just getting talked down a plant. 750 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: I just feel like you got to talk great to 751 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: these kids. Many kids. These kids need people that that's. 752 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: Behind them, and these kids need people that's going to 753 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 3: push them to be the right people. 754 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 2: And that's my job. 755 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: Jack. It's been awesome to hear your story, Awesome to 756 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: hear how you're you're impacting the lives of those in Lakeview, 757 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: South Carolina. You know, I know I speak for all 758 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: Colts fans that you know, we wish you the best, 759 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: and you know, we hope to see you back up 760 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: here an idiot, you know, at some point. But it's 761 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: been great talking to you, man. 762 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: This is awesome. It's a live wie. 763 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: Man. 764 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: It's great to happen. 765 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: Man. 766 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Thank you