1 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome if you're watching in the UK or 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: around the world. 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: On the morning of August fifteenth, twenty twenty one, journalist 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Yaoda Hakim is reporting live from her news desk in London. 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: The again Presidential Palace has tweeted that gunshots have been 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: heard at a number of points around Koble. 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: So what's odd is that today almost every single news 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: channel across the globe is covering the same story. The 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: situation on the ground is changing fast hour to hour. 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: It has intensified over the past couple of hours. 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: Taliban now bolds all of Ghanistan's border crossings amidst the 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: offense across the country. 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: Yalder's own family fled Afghanistan when she was just six 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: months old, traveling by horseback, and though she built a 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: new life as a journalist in Australia and London, she's 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: made an effort to stay close to her home country, 17 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: returning to do war reporting and breaking news. And then 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: when Yalder is live on air mid interview, she looks down. 19 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Her phone is ringing in front of her. 20 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: And it says, Sir hel Shaheen on it, you know 21 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: a Taliban spokesperson. 22 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: She can't let it go to voicemail, so she cuts 23 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: off her interview. 24 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: It's going to interrupt you, and I pressed the green button. Okay, 25 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: We've just got spokesperson of the Taliban, so Hel Shahin 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: on the line. 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 5: Mister Shaheen, can you hear me? 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Her colleagues are staring at her from behind the camera 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: trying to figure out why is she answering a call 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: while she's live on television. 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just just We've just got put the speaker 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: on and I sort of said, you know, mister Shaheen, 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: can you hear us? 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: Can you hear us? And he was sort of saying, 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 5: yes I can, mister Shahin. 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 6: There is a lot of chaos and confusion in Karbal 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 6: at the moment. Can you just help us understand what 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 6: the Taliban plan to do at present and next. 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 7: Yes, it should not be any confusion. 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: He was telling me what their plans were and what 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: they were doing, and their slogan was this time it's 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: going to be different. 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: We're not going to do the things that we said. 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Women will be educated, girls can get an education, women 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: can work. We will ensure that we are not isolated 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: from the international community. You will ensure that within the 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: framework of Islam, people have their. 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 8: Rights, a peaceful trans our power. 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: This was, you know, a Taliban two point zero. 50 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: Taliban two point zero, a new era, But what would 51 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: that mean for ordinary Afghans. I'm John Legend and from Kaleidoscope, 52 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: and iHeart this is Afghan Star. Previously, a woman wins 53 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: the show for the very first time. 54 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 9: I think I screamed when I heard her name, and 55 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 9: I just held her in my arms and I gave 56 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 9: her a tight hat. 57 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: And Afghanistan's biggest pop star, Arianna said is forced to flee. 58 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 9: I guess it was the most glamorous running for your 59 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 9: life ever. 60 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: Chapter one, Last Man Standing. On August fifteenth, twenty twenty one, 61 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: Arianna Sayid was sitting in hair and makeup when she 62 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: finally admitted it was time to run. Like so many others, 63 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: she had been holding out hope, believing the Taliban surge 64 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: could be kept at bay, but the Taliban forces had 65 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: stormed Cobble with ease, and now they were closing in 66 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: on their targets. Ariana wasn't the only one trying to escape. 67 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 9: Thousands and thousands of people were basically piled up on 68 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 9: each other, trying to get inside the airport. There was 69 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 9: actually no air, no oxygen, and thousands of people stuck 70 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 9: to each other. 71 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: Everyone was desperate to get on this one American plane. 72 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 9: My fiance went first, and then he reached the gates 73 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 9: spoke to one of the US soldiers, and the US 74 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 9: soldiers didn't care. He said he didn't believe his story. 75 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: Ariana's fiance was pleading, trying to communicate that Ariana is 76 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: a singer, she's a famous singer, and that she's in 77 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: direct danger right. 78 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 9: Now, and then we needed to, you know, be helped. 79 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 9: And he had said, oh, US citizens only, and my 80 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 9: fiance started shouting at the soldier. 81 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: You have to let us in, you have to please, 82 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: But the US soldier was unmoved. After all, they weren't 83 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: the only ones begging. There was a sea of desperate 84 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: people all trying to bore. 85 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 9: But then this Afghan translator recognized my fiance's voice, and 86 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 9: then he had told the soldier that he actually is 87 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 9: telling the truth, that his wife is a singer and 88 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 9: they're in danger. So they led us through. Me and 89 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 9: my fiance were the last two passengers that got into 90 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 9: that plane. There was probably, i don't know, maybe five 91 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 9: to seven hundred people sitting on that plane, next to 92 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 9: each other on the floor. Of course, I was very 93 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 9: relieved and pleased and grateful to God that he had 94 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 9: given me another chance. But I was numb by what 95 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 9: had happened in Afghanistan, and my heart was bleeding for 96 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 9: the people who were left behind, and I just just 97 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 9: couldn't stop crying. 98 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: You probably remember seeing scenes like this on the news, 99 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: the chaos outside Kabo Airport, the throngs of people fighting 100 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: to get on a flight, the people who are so 101 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: desperate to leave they climbed onto the wings of the aircraft, 102 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: clinging for their lives, only to drop to their deaths 103 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: from a few hundred feet in the air. I remember watching, 104 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: glued to my TV screen, just feeling the hopelessness of 105 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: it all. 106 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 10: As the Taliban celebrate. The mood on the streets of 107 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 10: Kabble is tense. Those who can escape are making a 108 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 10: run for the airport. Others here seem resigned to a 109 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 10: return to Taliban Mould you face an unknown future? What 110 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 10: will happen if the Taliban come? Will you stay in Kabble? 111 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 7: Of course we said it is on a. 112 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: But that wasn't the only narrative. On the ground, there 113 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: was also a sense that maybe the Taliban had changed. 114 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: They were on social media now, they tweeted, they were 115 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: making reassuring comments about women. They were calling journalists like 116 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: YadA and sharing their plans. Maybe they'd learned a lesson. 117 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: Maybe this actually was a new Taliban Chapter two Decisions. 118 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: Just a stone's throw from the airport, a TV producer 119 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: is weighing the question of how much the Taliban has 120 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: changed in real time. His name is Masud Sanjar and 121 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: he is not running for his life, not yet anyway. 122 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: Masud is the director of channels at Tolo TV. He's 123 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: standing in the office wondering, what the hell do I do? 124 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: Do I keep the shows running, the soap opers, the 125 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: news and what about Afghan Star? Because how much has 126 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: the Taliban really changed? The question is visceral for my 127 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: suit because he has first hand experience. As a kid 128 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 2: fresh out of school in the nineties, he worked in 129 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: a radio station for the Taliban. 130 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 11: Everything was very heavily censored. Was a fearful job. 131 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: For ten dollars a month. Masud would translate whatever news 132 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: or decree the Taliban gave him into English. Then he'd 133 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: read it on air. Mau D had gone into radio 134 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: because he loved the medium. But then the Taliban took 135 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: over and they kept him on. And once you work 136 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: for the Taliban, it's very difficult to get out. 137 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 11: A friend of mine made a mistake. He was in 138 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 11: the container for three days, just eating one piece of 139 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 11: bread and a boiled potato. 140 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: So he read the headlines even when they made his 141 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: stomach churn. From hangings to edicts to the night the 142 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: Taliban destroyed the giant Buddhas that once towered over the 143 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: Bamiyan Valley. These awful and seminal moments of Taliban rain 144 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: were all broadcast in Masud's voice. 145 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 11: If I had a choice, I would have never never 146 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 11: read it. I always hated them, and but there was 147 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 11: no other way. 148 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: After the Taliban fell, Sad Mussni hired Masud at his 149 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: radio station Arman FM, and Masoud became one of the 150 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: first DJs on the airways, and pretty soon he was 151 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: a voice for the voiceless. He would stand and report 152 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: from a pothole until it got fixed. He would highlight 153 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: corruption and call up ministers for answers. One man had 154 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: waited six months to get a license and Masud and 155 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: his team got the situation taken care of with one 156 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: live phone call. Years before Afghan Star launched, Masud was 157 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: using his morning show to wake up the country. But 158 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: that was just the beginning for Maud. Over the next 159 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: two decades, he worked his way up to become head 160 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: up Tolo TV and then director of Channels, and that's 161 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: where we find him now in August twenty twenty one, 162 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Standing in the nearly empty Afghan Star office with no 163 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: idea of what to do, Masoud runs his hands through 164 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: his thick, salt and pepper flecked hair. He doesn't know 165 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: if the Taliban are going to destroy the station or 166 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: if they'll allow the company to continue operating under the 167 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: Taliban's new and improved regime. Many of Masoud's colleagues have 168 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: already left the company the country. He's one of the 169 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: only senior employees remaining. 170 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 11: CEO was in Germany, our head of news run away 171 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 11: a day before, but I was making all the decisions 172 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 11: on what to put on. 173 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: Air, and so Masoud is steering this beast alone. One 174 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: of the last guardians of the cultural revolution. He and 175 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: Sa'ad and Daoude and Ariana lodged. 176 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 11: It was a chaos. 177 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: The skies are filled with aircraft evacuating foreign nationals. Embassies 178 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: are burning their files. Explosions can be heard, but no 179 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: one knows how close they are. 180 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 11: I could see that the army people, the police were 181 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 11: just taking off their uniforms and they were just dropping 182 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 11: their weapons in the ditch, and they were just running, 183 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 11: running away. 184 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: Masud can see that the few staff members left in 185 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: the office are terrified. They're watching the growing crowds in 186 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: the street too. 187 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 11: If your president runs away in a helicopter, if your 188 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 11: defense minister is on the run, how can you expect 189 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 11: from a soldier on the battlefield to form a front 190 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 11: and fight. 191 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: Masude calls a meeting. He gathers everyone together in the 192 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: office and he tells. 193 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 12: Them you go home. 194 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 11: I'll stay in the office. 195 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: He stays with just a few members of the staff 196 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: so they can keep updating the public for hours. They 197 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: wait until finally he can see Taliban by in the 198 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: streets outside. 199 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 11: Nobody expected that the cowboy was going to fall as fast. 200 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 11: I was on the phone until twelve am because I 201 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 11: was the one who was hitting the channels, and I 202 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 11: had to call my guys what to put on. 203 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: But knowing that the Taliban are right outside my suit. 204 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: Isn't so confident anymore. You can imagine the memories flashing 205 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,359 Speaker 2: through his head, memories from the last time the Taliban 206 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: were in power. 207 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 11: I remember when we went to watch a football match 208 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 11: in the stadium. They brought this man who killed someone 209 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 11: and they just put him in the middle of the stadium, 210 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 11: shot them and took the body and went and the 211 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 11: match back on. 212 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: He remembers the bodies that lined the streets. 213 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 11: One night, I came from the radio station and I 214 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 11: look at the roundabout and there were four people hanging there. 215 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 11: I don't know they were there for four days. 216 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: At some point, Masud realizes there's no way of winning 217 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: right now because Taliban two point zero is a myth, 218 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: a pr stunt. So Masud gives his team an order. 219 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 11: And the very first night, we changed all the normal 220 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 11: drama series is. We cut the music. We had put 221 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 11: some Islamic shows on the primetime which we have never 222 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 11: dead before. 223 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: And he acknowledges defeat. 224 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 11: There's no music, there are no series is, there's no 225 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 11: Afghan start. We have changed everything. On the night the 226 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 11: Taliban took over the. 227 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Cultural revolution, he helped ignite Afghan Star, the show that 228 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: took on the Taliban. It ends tonight. He pulls it 229 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: from the air. It's over. Hey, it's John Legend. If 230 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: you've been listening, you already know that Afghan Star is 231 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: a tale of resistance and hope. For fifteen years, Afghan 232 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: Star was a beacon, but when the Taliban returned to power, 233 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: they shut the show down along with so many Afghan rights. 234 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: They banned music education for girls and women, and they 235 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: continue to clamp down on everyone's freedoms. But there are 236 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: ways to show your support. We've teamed up with Awa 237 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: Studios and their incredible graphic artists to illustrate some of 238 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: the most extraordinary moments in this podcast. 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Shortly after taking over in August twenty 253 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: twenty one, the Taliban hold a press conference setting out 254 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: their vision for the country, reminding the world of their 255 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: new and improved regime pua. 256 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: We have pardoned anyone all those who had fought against us. 257 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: We don't want to repeat of war. We want to 258 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: do away with the factors of conflict. So the Islamic 259 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: Emirate of Afghanistan does not have any conflict with anybody. 260 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: We want the fighting to end. 261 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: They declare that women can work, girls can get an 262 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: education muda hid. 263 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: Though the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is committed to the 264 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: rights of women within the framework of Sharia, our women 265 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: have the same rights. They can work in different sectors 266 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: on the basis of our rules and regulations in education 267 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: and health and other areas. 268 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: But within a few weeks things start to. 269 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Change the country's new rulers now no longer allow boys 270 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: and girls to attend schools together. 271 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: Secondary school are also off limits. 272 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 6: Women are now unable to comfortably leave their homes without 273 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 6: a male gold. 274 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: Women are required to wear the burker when they leave 275 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: their house. 276 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 10: Their faces must be hidden. 277 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 13: The Taliban have imposed for the restrictions on the rights 278 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 13: of women in Afghanistan, banning females from parks and. 279 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 14: Fit tears in the classroom as female students realize the 280 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 14: Taliban are banning them from university. 281 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: And then it happens. 282 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 13: The Taliban in Afghanistan has burned musical instruments, claiming music 283 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 13: causes in moral corruption. Thousands of dollars worth of instruments 284 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 13: were sent up in smoke and a bonfire after all 285 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 13: forms of music was banned from social gatherings. The decision 286 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 13: is one of the numerous restrictions that have been imposed 287 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 13: under the strict interpretation of Islamic law. 288 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: Musicians flee, instruments are burned once again, and for the 289 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: first in twenty years, Afghanistan is plunged back into silence. 290 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: And that's it. That's the end of this story. After 291 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: twenty years, we pretty much ended up where we started, 292 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: and I know you might be thinking, what was the point? 293 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: A lot of Americans, fatigued by the news of the 294 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: war have asked themselves that to families who lost young soldiers, 295 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: men and women who came back with PTSD for what. 296 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: When the United States withdrew from Afghanistan, It's almost like 297 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: we were trying to shake off a mistake, wiping our 298 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: hands of the problems there. And ever since, the world 299 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: kind of shut Afghanistan out. There's a sense that all 300 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: of this was inevitable, that of course the Taliban was 301 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: going to come back into power and reinstate their brutal regime. 302 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: But that's not what the people living there think. 303 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 7: Guftan bahanis bahananah money, Guftan bahan nimes Bahanaay. 304 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 11: Everything was so good that you didn't have chance to 305 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 11: think about all this negativity. You were all positive. Afghanistan 306 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 11: was changing. You could see that all these young kids 307 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 11: studying abroad coming back to Afghanistan, like I saw the 308 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 11: progress with my eyes. 309 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: There were two generations of kids who grew up believing 310 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: in a new Afghanistan. There were women singing on television, 311 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: and people from different warring tribes hugging each other on 312 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: Afghan Star, showing the country they could coexist. There were 313 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: rappers and punk musicians, and this palpable sense of a 314 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: country thick with hope and culture and this sea of 315 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: young people. To them, those twenty years without Taliban rain 316 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: meant something. 317 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 10: Zudigikasafer Heyasafer. 318 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Today almost everyone involved in Afghan Star lives in exile. Shaki, 319 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: the winner of season one with the Beautiful Voice. He 320 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 2: lives in Florida. 321 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 12: I was born in Kabul, Afghanistan, with lots of hopes. 322 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: But right now where I am, I am happy. That's it. 323 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 15: Janee coo Ja. 324 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: Habib, the young producer in Daywood's Protege. 325 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 16: I'm living in Germany since nine years now. 326 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: Ariana hops from one city to another. Sad is in London, 327 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: and Masoud he managed to get out too. In his 328 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: escape story, he fashions a cloth into a makeshift hijab 329 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: to keep from getting recognized. He lives in Turkey. 330 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 8: Now. 331 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 11: It's very hard because in Turkey there are eighty million 332 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 11: people and I'm only eighty million and one. But in Afghanistan, 333 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 11: I could make a difference every single day, So it's 334 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 11: a big, big difference. And sometimes I feel sad that 335 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 11: I can't do anything. 336 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: For people today. Masoud runs the TV output in Afghanistan 337 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: from an office in Istanbul. The channels are tame closely 338 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: watched by the Taliban ministers, but that doesn't mean he's 339 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: lowered his ambitions. There's talk of trying to put another 340 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: season of Afghanistar together, getting the band back for one 341 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: last go from abroad, streaming it into Afghanistan as a 342 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: little beam of hope, a reminder for everyone left behind 343 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: that they haven't been forgotten. Masud. He sits in his 344 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: desk chair and swivels around to point out his daughter's 345 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: drawings pinned behind him. 346 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 11: They told her that to draw something from Turkey, she 347 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 11: draw a hell in Afghanistan and put a flag of Afghanistan. 348 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 11: And she lefts Afghanistan. 349 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Masud and his daughter, they miss Afghanistan. Every Afghan 350 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: we've spoken to in this series says they miss Afghanistan. 351 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: They worry for their friends, They dream of their homes, 352 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: and they think about the music, all the music they 353 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: danced to, sung along to, helped create. They wonder what 354 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: happened to all that music? Where it's gone? Is there 355 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: anything left? But while most are too afraid to find 356 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: out for themselves to go back. There's one guy, one 357 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: crazy guy who wasn't afraid, and he wasn't ready to 358 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: give up when everyone else was trying to get a 359 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: ticket out of there, he was trying to sneak back in. 360 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 16: And took a big risk. But that's who I am. 361 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 16: I do these crazy things all the time. 362 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: Daoud Sidiki, the man who started this story. The last 363 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: time you heard from Daoud was about fifteen years ago. 364 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: He was at sun Dance watching the premiere of a 365 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: documentary about Afghanistan, and then he went Mia. In the 366 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: years that followed, he settled in Washington, DC and got 367 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: a job working as a broadcaster in America. But in 368 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he gets the news that his dad 369 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: is sick. 370 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 16: I wanted to meet him at last moments. 371 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 2: And so he decides to go back to an Afghanistan 372 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: run by the Taliban, in Afghanistan, where he might very 373 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: well be a wanted man. 374 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 16: I took a big risk. 375 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: Basically, it's a big risk because remember, for a time, 376 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: Daoud was the most famous person in Afghanistan, the host 377 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: of the countries the biggest TV show. But it's what 378 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: he does next that shows exactly who he is. When 379 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: Daoud goes to his family home, he sees his cassette collection, 380 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: the one he amassed in secret under the first Taliban regime, 381 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: tapes and tapes including a Kaman Zahir's music, the Afghan 382 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: Elvis singing songs about freedom and peace. 383 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 16: If I take it outside, that means I can save them. 384 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 16: If I don't, that means let the Taliban destroy everything. Basically, 385 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 16: that's what will happen if I do not take them out. 386 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: Daoud has seen viral videos of the Taliban burning piles 387 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: of musical instruments. He knows Afghan star violinists who have 388 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: set fire to their own sheet music. He's read the 389 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: articles about musicians leaving the country, Afghanistan's all female orchestra 390 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: exiled in Portugal. Music here is on a path to extinction, 391 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: and he realizes if he leaves these cassettes behind, they 392 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: will be erased as well, and so Daoud gets to work. 393 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: He thumbs to his collection, pulling out cassette after cassette. 394 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 16: And put most of my cassettes. I can see the 395 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 16: ones that I really love in my luggage. 396 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: But we're not talking five or ten cassettes here. 397 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 16: Like I brought around three hundred or three hundred and 398 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 16: fifty cassettes in one of my luggage. 399 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: He loads hundreds of bulky tapes into his suitcase until 400 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: he can't bit another, and then he zips it up 401 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: and heads to the airport. 402 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 16: I put a mask and I put the hat and 403 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 16: tried to hide myself. 404 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: He can see the Taliban patrolling the airport outside. 405 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 16: It was very scary situation. When I just came to 406 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 16: the airport, my heart was beating very hard. 407 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: He's risking his life for these tapes because they mean 408 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: everything to him. 409 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 16: And praying in my heart that God please please allow 410 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 16: me to take these out. And if they find out, 411 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 16: they will ask who's that and what's going on? What 412 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 16: are these tapes? 413 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: If he's discovered the tapes will be the least of 414 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: his worries. He gets to the front of the security line. 415 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: He takes off his shoes. He puts his bag onto 416 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: the conveyor belt. He's trying to be casual to go unnoticed. 417 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: His bag starts moving down the conveyor into the X 418 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: ray machine. He walks forward, slowly, head down, praying. The 419 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: bag just goes through and he can pick it up 420 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: on the other side. And that's when he feels a 421 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: tap on his shoulder. It's the security guard asking Daoud 422 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: to step aside. 423 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 16: Says, sit, what'scing on? 424 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: What are these cussos? 425 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: Bust? Daoud is certain he's about to be arrested and 426 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: handed over to the Taliban. The security guy opens Daoud's 427 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: bag and. 428 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 16: Says, everything needs to be returned. You cannot take them. 429 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: And then the guy looks at him, puts him right 430 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: in the eye. 431 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 16: When he saw me, he say, oh my god, that's you. 432 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: He has been gone from Afghanistan for over a decade 433 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: and still this security guard sees him and knows exactly 434 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: who he is. And then he sees a big smile 435 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: break across his face and he turns to Daoud and tells. 436 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 16: Him he said no, no, no, go ahead, you're fine. 437 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: Go ahead. Daoud grabs his bags and makes a pe 438 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 2: line for the plane. 439 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 16: And I took my tips and put it on the airplane, 440 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 16: and I was so happy. 441 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: Daou Sidiki lives in Washington, d C. Now he's got 442 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: a wife and kids, and his home office is you 443 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: know what, Let's let him tell you. 444 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 16: Oh my god, I love it. I know this is 445 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 16: a podcast, but if you see my room, I decorated 446 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 16: my room with my cassette taps. The decoration of my 447 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 16: room is cassette players and cassette tapes. This is how 448 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 16: it is all around me. And I have like specifically 449 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 16: one cassette holder with one hundred cassettes that these are 450 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 16: my top caste tips that I'm proud of. Like these 451 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 16: cassettes are kind of like historic art effect of Avanistan. Oh, 452 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 16: these were the pop cassettes or the songs that I 453 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 16: really love. But I love a lot of them, especially 454 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 16: the song It's all about Freedom. 455 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: Duggy. 456 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 8: Shut Out, zyd Vandagy, the car name. 457 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 12: Van Day, Charcoal Bosh Zendagi, the record n. 458 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 8: Day van Dagy. 459 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 12: The. 460 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 16: And the song Amazar says that finally life will end 461 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 16: anyway servitude is not okay. If servitude is the condition 462 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 16: and life, life doesn't work. This is very iconic and 463 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 16: revolutionary song. These cassettes bring me the memories of the 464 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 16: past and comforts me in a very hard time. It's 465 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 16: just bring me back the older answer. 466 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 15: Arkasha Doshmo, Arkashaws, Mama Monas, Kusho. 467 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 14: Margo, Shikas Standing Shapindegi the recall names Zindagi, Saramia Vandegi, 468 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 14: The Coon. 469 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 12: Bandagi, Sharka Bosha, Zindagi. 470 00:35:46,640 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: H Afghan Star is a Kaleidoscope production in collaboration with 471 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: iHeart Podcasts, produced by samas dot Audio and hosted by 472 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: me John Legend from samas dot Audio. The series producer 473 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: is Mira Kumar. Our executive producers are Joe Sikes and 474 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: Dasha Listsina. Mixed and sound designed by Jeff Imptman, Story 475 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: editing by Joe Sikes, with original composition by Kyle Murdoch, 476 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: Recording engineer Tim McClain. Chapter artwork by A w A 477 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: Studios Kaleidoscope. The executive producers are Kate Osborne, Mengesh Hatikadur 478 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: Oz Volisian and Costas Linos from iHeart. The executive producers 479 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: are Ali Perry and Katrina NorVa. Social Media by Darra 480 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: Patts and Vahini Shormy. Special thanks to Tom Preston, Lizzie Jacobs, 481 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 2: Will Pearson, Carrie Lieberman, Nikki Etore, Bob Pittman, John Sykes, 482 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: Conno Byrne Sad Mussenni and the Mossenny Family, Matthew Anderson 483 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 2: and Axe Alonzo