WEBVTT - Bitcoin v Crypto v Securities

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Mark Moa

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<v Speaker 1>show where we talk about the decentralized revolution each and

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<v Speaker 1>every week, talking about the way the world is changing,

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<v Speaker 1>of course as we look at it through the lens

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<v Speaker 1>of politics, finance, and technology, and there's no shortage of

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<v Speaker 1>things to talk about as the world is moving really

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<v Speaker 1>really fast. Of course, maybe, man, all three are just

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<v Speaker 1>so important. That's why we talk about all three. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're witnessing the first sovereign debt crisis in about a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years, and so this super inflated you know, debt

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<v Speaker 1>bubble is collapsing. Of course, the Federal Reserve is restricting

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<v Speaker 1>the monetary supply by raising rates. Um. They came off

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<v Speaker 1>of their easing their monetary easy program to do monetary tightening,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's causing problems all over the world in every area,

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<v Speaker 1>from uh yeah, from politics, like where now people can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford their debt and so we want, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>president one to forgive student loans, and now we need

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<v Speaker 1>to raise taxes and then we have to offset people's

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<v Speaker 1>expensive energy bills. Um. So yeah, politics, and of course finance,

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<v Speaker 1>where we have the stock markets crashing, the cryptocurrency markets

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<v Speaker 1>are crashing, and then of course we have technology which

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to kind of offset and change all this

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<v Speaker 1>and it is a wild world if you just tune

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so, uh, we have been talking about for

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<v Speaker 1>a good part of this year. I mean, we talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about all three of those topics. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course the financial markets have been in turmoil, and specifically

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<v Speaker 1>the cryptocurrency markets have burning turmoil going back until about

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<v Speaker 1>May of this year. Mayo where we saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really things start to aching a turn for the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, November one was kind of the high water

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<v Speaker 1>mark for cryptocurrencies. That's where bitcoin, ethereum, etcetera. Had their

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<v Speaker 1>their their all time highs. And of course that is

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<v Speaker 1>when the Federal Reserve said that they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>start raising rates. Now, the Federal Reserve is not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak up on anybody. A lot of times people

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people, I should say, are spending

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time trying to figure out what the

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<v Speaker 1>feed is gonna do next, what they're gonna what, what

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<v Speaker 1>they're really saying. They're trying to read between the lines,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, trying to guess what they're doing. The

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<v Speaker 1>Central Banks, the Federal Reserve is not trying to trick you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not trying to sneak up on you. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, they're trying to tell us well in

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<v Speaker 1>advance what they're doing so we can all be prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for this. And so all you gotta do is watch

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<v Speaker 1>watch their news press releases, you know, watch their meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the notes, the minutes that come out after that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're helling you. All right. So they told us

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<v Speaker 1>back in November that they were going to start raising

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<v Speaker 1>rates and going into quantitative tightening. Now, if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been following along, if we just rewind the clock a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more, you remember in two thousand twenty, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>March of two thousand twenty, the entire world stopped, or

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<v Speaker 1>more specifically, the governments of the world shut the world down,

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<v Speaker 1>uh specifically shutting down businesses, closing businesses, firing workers, and

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<v Speaker 1>so much more over this whole pandemic situation. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when that happened, of course, businesses that have been

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<v Speaker 1>in business for decades, multiple decades, multiple family generations were

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<v Speaker 1>literally forced to close out of business. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>the economy screeches to a halt, then earnings go down.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you would expect stocks to go down, which

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what happened. The stock markets crashed at a

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<v Speaker 1>at an alarming pace, dried up all the liquid e

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<v Speaker 1>that and everything just froze up of course because they

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down. Of course, then the Federal Reserve had

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<v Speaker 1>to leap into action and start injecting money, injecting liquidity

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<v Speaker 1>to get the markets moving back again. And then, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I kind of go backwards into that

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<v Speaker 1>story because then the Federal Reserve, which is doing this

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<v Speaker 1>monetary easy, which is lowering interest rates. Remember when they

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<v Speaker 1>lower interest rates, people take on more debt. Money is

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<v Speaker 1>created through debt, so it's not like the Fed pumps

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<v Speaker 1>and more dollars they create they lower interest rates. We

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<v Speaker 1>take on more debt by houses, cars, boats, etcetera. And

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<v Speaker 1>as that money is created in the ecosystem, it starts

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<v Speaker 1>slashing around inside of there and then the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to that, like I said, is because

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<v Speaker 1>the FED said, um, you know, we're not thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>raising rates. Then he came out like a month later

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<v Speaker 1>and said we're not even thinking about thinking about raising rates.

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<v Speaker 1>And what that did is that forecast to the markets that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed's gonna hold this easy monetary policy for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, let's run this thing up. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>financial assets caught a bid. You saw houses jumping through

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<v Speaker 1>through to new all time highs, all the stocks making

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<v Speaker 1>new all time highs. Um. You know, I couldn't get cars, cryptocurrencies,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And so when they forecast to the market

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<v Speaker 1>that game on, let's go, things took off. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, like I said, in November, they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start pulling back. And so first we saw

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency start selling off. So Bitcoin and ethereum made their

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<v Speaker 1>all time high right after the announcement and started selling

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<v Speaker 1>off about a week or two later. On how the

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<v Speaker 1>exact chart in front of me. A week or two later,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the Nasdaq, which is the tech stocks, start

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<v Speaker 1>selling off UM and then UM, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>January two when the SMPI started selling off, and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course finally the FED came through with what they

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<v Speaker 1>said they were going to do in March of twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually did start raising rates. Now, the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>that's important to what I'm to say is because this

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<v Speaker 1>has set off this entire chain reaction of market crashes.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk about the cryptocurrency space, but that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it started. And the reason why is because when when

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<v Speaker 1>the FED puts more dollars into the ecosystem, things take off,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they suck them out, everything crashes. Some things

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<v Speaker 1>are more susceptible to others. So the more riskier the

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<v Speaker 1>assets they go up faster, they crash faster. The more old, secure,

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<v Speaker 1>stable assets go up less and slower, and they also

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<v Speaker 1>fall less and slower. The problem that we also have

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<v Speaker 1>is that as these markets take off so fast, the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is how do we how do we keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with that? You and I as earners, you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're working for our wages, we're trying to save them.

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<v Speaker 1>But prices are going up so fast. We're getting priced

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<v Speaker 1>out of homes, we're getting priced out of the cars

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<v Speaker 1>we want to buy. We can't go out to eat

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<v Speaker 1>or take vacations anymore. How do we keep up with that?

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<v Speaker 1>And so in order to keep up with that, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to also take on more risk, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>start using things like leverage. So a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>were leveraging their assets, and that looks really good when

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<v Speaker 1>things are going really good and you grow much faster.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when things go bad, unfortunately, you unravel much faster.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what we saw is in the cryptocurrency space,

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<v Speaker 1>in the financial space, founders, investors, etcetera. Used massive amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of leverage in order to grow, and so they look

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<v Speaker 1>like geniuses. They look they looked amazing, Like Sam Bankman

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<v Speaker 1>freed from ft X. Within three years, he built this

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million dollar company because he took the most risk,

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<v Speaker 1>He gambled the most, he used the most leverage. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a genius until everything came crumbling down. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what happened. So we saw in UM about

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<v Speaker 1>May of two thousand twenty two, after things had been

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<v Speaker 1>starting to wind down, we saw potentially maybe the first

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<v Speaker 1>really really really big domino to go down, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a stable coin, terror Luna. We've covered it at length.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to figure that out, go back into

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<v Speaker 1>the archives back into about May and you can see

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<v Speaker 1>me talking about that. But as this algorithmic stable coin

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<v Speaker 1>which was never going to work, I talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>extensively before all pegs are meant to be broken, and

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<v Speaker 1>so of course it was going to come down. It

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<v Speaker 1>just needed the liquidity, it needed the right environment to

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<v Speaker 1>come down, and that's what happened, which then brought down

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<v Speaker 1>a whole chain reaction. Like I said, so we saw

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<v Speaker 1>that come down, and then we saw you know, Tara

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<v Speaker 1>Luna come down, an anchor broto Call come down, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we saw Voyager come down, and then Celsie has

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<v Speaker 1>come down, and on and on and on, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>finally it starts with the smaller ones and then it

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<v Speaker 1>scales up to bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's now taken down f t X and now the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world is taking notice. And I believe that it's

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<v Speaker 1>doing two things. It's doing to two big things that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be aware of. One, it's showing the

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<v Speaker 1>difference is between bitcoin and crypto why people say bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>not crypto. It's also I believe, going to push off

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<v Speaker 1>a whole wave of regulations that is going to completely

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<v Speaker 1>change the cryptocurrency landscape. And whether you think so or not,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to at least understand where I'm coming from,

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<v Speaker 1>because you need to understand the risks. All Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I got lots of cover. You don't want to miss

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna be talking about. If you're just tuning in,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to the Mark Mo Show talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>this f t x uh fiasco will change things moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go away. I'm gonna back right back in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome back. If you're just tuning in, you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the Mark Mo Show, We're talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve, by tightening the monetary supply, kicked off

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<v Speaker 1>an entire domino effect that's rippled through the financial markets,

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<v Speaker 1>through the cryptocurrency markets, and I believe is going to

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<v Speaker 1>change the face of the cryptocurrency markets as we know it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so let's keep going here. So, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of had this domino effect Harry Luna went down,

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<v Speaker 1>which then was Voyager, and then with Celsius and on

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<v Speaker 1>and on and on. It starts small and it gets bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>and then f t X, which was the savior. F

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<v Speaker 1>t X jumped into build everybody out, and the media

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<v Speaker 1>was painting them as the darlins of the space, the

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<v Speaker 1>savior of the space. They went down, and the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why is because they look like a genius using all

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<v Speaker 1>this leverage. But the leverage is what unwound them. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we have this UM. It's brought it to the forefront.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all over mainstream media, it's on every single news outlet.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it extensively here. And now it's doing

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<v Speaker 1>two things. So we're gonna talk about one. It's highlighting

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<v Speaker 1>the big, big difference that bitcoin and UM generally cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>are not really the same thing at all, and so

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<v Speaker 1>people are starting to wake up to that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the second thing is I believe it's going to really

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<v Speaker 1>push regulations to the forefront and it's going to change

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<v Speaker 1>the face of cryptocurrency as we know it. So let's explain,

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<v Speaker 1>or let's explore these two things that I'm talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first thing is we'll talk about UM. Why

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<v Speaker 1>you might hear me and other people say bitcoin not cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're not saying that bitcoin is not a cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>but what we're typically saying is when I'm talking about something,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about bitcoin, and it doesn't apply generally to

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<v Speaker 1>all the other twenty thousand cryptocurrencies out there, And so

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<v Speaker 1>what are we talking about? So first of all, what

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<v Speaker 1>is crypto currency? Well, crypto being short for cryptography, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So cryptography is a way to encrypt things, a way

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<v Speaker 1>to secure things. Right. So, up until I believe the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>cryptography was illegal. The United States said it was banned.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't allowed to be exported under what they considered munition.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was considered like a security um US security

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<v Speaker 1>breach if we would ship that overseas, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>went all the way to the Supreme Court. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was under a case um by P G. P.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good. Um, I forget the guy's name. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>prepare this part. I'm talking off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically they said, hey, this is cryptography. The the

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice brought this suit against him and

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<v Speaker 1>it went all the way to Supreme Court. And when

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<v Speaker 1>he went to the Supreme Court, he had printed out

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<v Speaker 1>the code. The code is software, uh, and they printed

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<v Speaker 1>it out on paper and then they brought like a

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<v Speaker 1>stack of paper and put it on the desk, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court's like, well, that's speech, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>protected under free speech. And so cryptography has a sense

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<v Speaker 1>flourished since then, and bitcoin was this new technological revolution

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<v Speaker 1>which used cryptography to secure the transactions. So we can

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<v Speaker 1>secure our private keys, we can secure our bitcoin by cryptography,

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<v Speaker 1>and that way, unless I have the key, no one

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<v Speaker 1>else can get access to it. So when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>about like you know, the government is going to seize

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<v Speaker 1>your bitcoin, um, they can't, um not if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>unless they can get a hold of your key, your

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<v Speaker 1>private key, because it's cryptographically scared. So then you call

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<v Speaker 1>it well cryptography or crypto and then currency. So bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of things, one of which maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>killer application of it is to kind of reinvent money.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you take money or coins and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have cryptography, you get cryptocurrency. Now there's twenty thousand other

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<v Speaker 1>so called cryptocurrencies um, and maybe they use some form

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<v Speaker 1>of cryptography, but they're not all meant to be currencies.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, there's a big difference there. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, we're typically saying crypto or bitcoin, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about bitcoins specifically and not crypto or cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>And so let's dig in a little bit more into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first thing is that bitcoin is, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a new new invention, a technological revolution that

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<v Speaker 1>gave us a big, big breakthrough. And the breakthrough was

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having centralized control centralized databases, we now have decentralized.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as the Internet grew um from the nineties um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very hard to get on the Internet at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in the late nineties and the early two thousands,

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<v Speaker 1>when I started my first Internet business, it was very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to start Internet business because you had to run

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<v Speaker 1>your own server. And so the Internet wasn't really going

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<v Speaker 1>to scale if it was that hard where everyone had

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<v Speaker 1>to set up their own server. And so we started

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<v Speaker 1>getting these cloud hosting services and so then we have

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Web Services and Google, etcetera. Which allowed us discovered

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<v Speaker 1>the quickly, but it created the centralized databases. On top

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<v Speaker 1>of it. You have these companies like Experience, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the credit reporting agency that runs their own database, or Facebook, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is is they control those databases. Your

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<v Speaker 1>bank JP, Morgan Wells, Fargo, Bank of America, etcetera. Runs

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<v Speaker 1>a database that keeps track of all their customers accounts

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<v Speaker 1>and deposits, right and so um those are essentially now

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<v Speaker 1>if Wells Fargo wanted to, they could say, well, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have money in your accounts anymore, or the

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<v Speaker 1>u S could just see, you know, tell them to

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<v Speaker 1>freeze your account. Um, it happens all the time. When

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<v Speaker 1>you don't pay your taxes, for example, it could freeze

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<v Speaker 1>your accounts or just take money out of your accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>And so whoever controls that database or we'll call it

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<v Speaker 1>a ledger, has control. But what bitcoin did is that

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<v Speaker 1>allowed us to have a decentralized database, or have thousands

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<v Speaker 1>or hundreds of thousands or millions of databases that so

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<v Speaker 1>each person could control their own database as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>one single entity. That was the revolution d centralization, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that that was the big trend, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the big breakthrough, That was the big revolution, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these other cryptocurrencies have jumped on to

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<v Speaker 1>try to pretend like they have that, but they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to achieve it. All right, So that is

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<v Speaker 1>the big difference here. Now, some of the big differences

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<v Speaker 1>that we would say would be um sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>I used the illustration on my YouTube channel um talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how just because things sound similar doesn't mean they are.

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<v Speaker 1>So we could look at I used the example of

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<v Speaker 1>like beyond meat, which was this big darl and it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna gonna make meat healthier, but instead they have

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty or thirty ingredients, which many of them are

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<v Speaker 1>very very unhealthy for you, containing heavy amounts of steed

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<v Speaker 1>oils and things like that. And so you might say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>beyond meat is like meat, but meat is just supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like from an animal, just one ingredient, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a cow, So beyond meat isn't really meat.

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<v Speaker 1>We might also say gold. Gold is a form of metal,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a lot different as chemical different chemical mineral

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown of aluminum or steel or cromaley or platinum, pladium, silver,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Right, so gold, they're all metals, but it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>And so bitcoin is just different than all the other cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the big things is that bitcoin was created.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a piece of as a piece of software. The

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<v Speaker 1>software was released into the public for people to go run,

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<v Speaker 1>and the bitcoin was created by a single issuer. As

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can go get a computer plug into the software

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<v Speaker 1>and can create bitcoin for themselves today just like they

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<v Speaker 1>could from the very beginning. Unlike most of the cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>and including your favorite top big ones, the number two ethereum,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, top ten cardano. Uh, those coins were created

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<v Speaker 1>by a group of founders who enriched themselves and kept

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<v Speaker 1>a good majority of those coins, and then they released

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<v Speaker 1>it open to the public. All right. So that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big difference. Um, there was no Bitcoin had no issuer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's that's why the SEC considers it a commodity,

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<v Speaker 1>which will get more into the regulatory part and a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit all right. Now, the other thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to understand that makes bitcoin a lot different than

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<v Speaker 1>the other twenty thousand cryptocurrencies is what backs it? All right.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people will say, well, what backs cryptocurrency?

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<v Speaker 1>What gives it value? So I want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to go through more. If you're just

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in you listening to the markma Show, or talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the ft X blow up and how it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to change the cryptocurrency space overall, I'm highlighting some of

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between bitcoin and the rest of cryptocurrency, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about the regulations and how the whole

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<v Speaker 1>industry will change. I got a lot to cover. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to miss it. I'll be back with more

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute, so don't go away, all right, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tune in, you're listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Mo Show. We're talking about how the financial system started

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<v Speaker 1>melting down. It created a collapse in the crypto industry.

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<v Speaker 1>The collapse of ft X brought a bunch of things

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<v Speaker 1>to the forefront, and how it's changing the cryptocurrency space,

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<v Speaker 1>probably for good. All right. So I'm highlighting some of

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<v Speaker 1>the differences between bitcoin and crypto and then we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how the f t X and what I think

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<v Speaker 1>regulations will come and how that will change. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to bitcoin, what we're talking about, how it's

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<v Speaker 1>just different, and the reason why it's different is because

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<v Speaker 1>or understanding why it's different leads to the next part,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the regulatory side of things. And so commodities

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<v Speaker 1>are typically things brought from the ground that could be

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<v Speaker 1>brought from the ground anywhere in the world and they

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<v Speaker 1>would all be fungible. So if I bought a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of dirt in Iowa or in Kenya, Africa, or in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ukraine. With that dirt, I could grow wheat and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter where I grow that wheat in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>wheat is wheat, So anyone can go buy dirt, grow wheat,

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<v Speaker 1>and wheat the same. I could go buy a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of dirt, and I could mine for gold in Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>or in Africa, and doesn't matter. The gold is still gold.

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<v Speaker 1>I could buy a piece of dirt and and drill

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<v Speaker 1>for oil, whether in California or Saudi Arabia, and the

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<v Speaker 1>oil's oil. And anybody can go buy the land and

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<v Speaker 1>mine for the gold or the oil, or for the

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<v Speaker 1>grow the wheat, and it's all the same. And so

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is the same, where anybody can go buy a computer,

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<v Speaker 1>plug it into the network, and they could bring bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>into the ecosystem, so it's a commodity. There's no central

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<v Speaker 1>issue where nobody issued oil, wheat, or gold, and nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>issuing bitcoin either. The difference with other cryptocurrencies is that

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<v Speaker 1>they do have an issuer. So your your favorite cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>have all been pre mind, So about seventy of all

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<v Speaker 1>the ethereum and existence was pre mind. So when they

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<v Speaker 1>created it, they created the tokens and gave them to

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and their investors, which was themselves, Um, yes, Cardano, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>x l M yes, Ripple, they were all pre mind

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<v Speaker 1>Ripple x RP was a hundred percent. So a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the Ripple was created by the team that

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<v Speaker 1>invented it and used to make themselves filthy, filthy rich.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's one of the big differences that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand now when it comes to these regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, uh f t X kind of sat

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<v Speaker 1>in this kind of they think it's a gray area.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a gray area. There's this gray area.

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<v Speaker 1>The SEC is like, well, it's a it's a Bahamas corporation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they were founded in the US. They transferred to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bahamas their U. S citizens, and they built U. S

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<v Speaker 1>citizens out of money. It's never really stopped the US

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<v Speaker 1>from reaching their long arm of the law and regulated anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe there's a little bit of a gray area.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think because we're talking about tens of billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars that have been lost, we're talking about millions

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans that have lost some of them lost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really bringing this conversation of regulations to the forefront

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC Security Exchange Commission. So there's two regulatory bodies

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<v Speaker 1>really that kind of fall into this. There's the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>Securities Exchange Commission, which is supposed to regulate securities as

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<v Speaker 1>in their name, securities exchange, so the exchanging of securities,

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<v Speaker 1>issuing and exchanging of securities. And then there's the CFTC,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the commodities futures all right, So some of

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<v Speaker 1>these assets kind of fall between here. So Bitcoin has

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<v Speaker 1>been the only digital asset out of the twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>or so cryptocurrencies, it's been the only one that has

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<v Speaker 1>been declared a commodity. And that's because, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no sensual issuer, no one making decisions on

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<v Speaker 1>the network, et cetera, all right, But all the other

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<v Speaker 1>ones it hasn't been clear. Now I believe that that

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<v Speaker 1>it's allowed them to operate that in this gray area.

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<v Speaker 1>That's allowed um, these problems like FTX to get bigger, bigger, bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's in the forefront, uh, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to demand action. The SEC looks horrible in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Their only role, the whole point of the organization, why

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<v Speaker 1>they're there, is to protect consumers from exactly this in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, they should probably just disband. Look, I am

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<v Speaker 1>not here. I'm not here. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it very clear. I am not pro regulation. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, I think we should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever we want with our money. If I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go gamble in Vegas, or I want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>it all on lottery tickets where I want to buy

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<v Speaker 1>crypto tokens, that's up to me. It's my money and

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<v Speaker 1>I should be able to do that. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe I need the nanny state of the government

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<v Speaker 1>to protect me. I think I should be smart enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make my own decisions. But that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality is we do have a regulatory body called

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC, and the reality is they are there and

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<v Speaker 1>their role is supposed to protect us. They've done an

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely horrible job and they're disgraced, and Gary Gains ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the SEC, should probably step down and apologize. Um. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that with this egg on their face, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, they're going to be forced to up their game.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be forced to stand up. We have lawmakers

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Warren, you know, parading around um you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Capital saying we need to enforce this. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, step this up. And so I believe

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to have to. So what does that mean, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, they've been very clear, the SEC has

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<v Speaker 1>been very clear that bitcoin is a commodity. But what

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<v Speaker 1>about the other twenty thousand and so we want to

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at that, and um, when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to that, when it comes to the securities, can't could ripple?

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<v Speaker 1>Could xr P become a security? Could ethereum become a security? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know, and it's not for me to decide,

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<v Speaker 1>it's for it's for the SEC to decide. However, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you that there is a there's something

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<v Speaker 1>called how we test, not how he test? Has four

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>basic questions. Um, it gets a little more complex. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty eight points underneath them, but but for the

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, there's four. And the Supreme Court

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>established this four criteria to determine whether an investment contrast

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<v Speaker 1>contract exists. An investment contract is one an investment of money,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've put money in, two into a common enterprise,

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<v Speaker 1>three with the expectation of profit, and four to be

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<v Speaker 1>derived from the efforts of others. So there's four all right. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to ask about Ethereum or Cardano or

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<v Speaker 1>x RP or any of these other ones, those are

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<v Speaker 1>the four questions. At the Supreme Court, UH defined that

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC would consider these things. Now, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit that's been going on for a long time between

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC and Ripple x RP, and so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how that shakes out. Now that's going to be UH

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be used as precedents for pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the entire cryptocurrency space, although we've had

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<v Speaker 1>just another one come out recently for this Library token

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<v Speaker 1>Um and the SEC clips said it is a security.

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>They tried to fight it, and the SEC said, no,

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it is clearly a security. And I think that sets precedents.

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>The way the way the law works is that when

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<v Speaker 1>a court rules on something, that sets this precedence. And

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>so that kind of says And actually Library came out

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<v Speaker 1>after the ruling and said, hey, look, this sets a

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous precedence for the rest of the industry. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it does. Now the x RP, the Ripple

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<v Speaker 1>x RP is also going to be an even bigger present,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that is supposed to come out maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Q one of next year, so within the next you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six months or less, we should know where the sec

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<v Speaker 1>sits on that. But just ask yourself an investment of money,

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<v Speaker 1>So when people buy cryptocurrencies, are they doing it? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they investing their money into it? Do they buy that

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<v Speaker 1>expecting it to go up in value? And of course

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the answer is yes. Pretty much every token is bought

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>because people think they can sell it for more later.

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And then number two would be in a common enterprise.

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>So we could take Ethereum for example. Um there's Vitalic

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Butterin and the Ethereum Foundation which are steering the direction

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.239
<v Speaker 1>of Ethereum. As a matter of fact, they've changed the

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>entire consensus mechanism just recently. They changed the monetary issuance

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times in the last couple years. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a group of people that are steering us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a common enterprise. Three, like I said, with an expectation

0:26:58.200 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>of profits. So first, as an investment of money, yes,

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>they money in three with an expectation of profit. I

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>believe if you pulled a hundred or a thousand cryptocurrency investors,

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean we even used the word investor, they bought

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it because there was an expectation of profit. They thought

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>it would be worth more later and then four to

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<v Speaker 1>be derived from the efforts of others. And so, like

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I said, in the group of Ethereum, they have the foundation,

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>they have the steering committee. They literally just changed the

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>entire consensus mechanisms. So the efforts of others. I think

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty clear now. Um. I think what people don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand is what happens if they cracked down on these regulations.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I want to talk about next. I

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>put out a big put out a Twitter post, and

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>they had a lot of miscommunication. I want to clarify

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that if you're just tuning in, you're listening to the

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>markma Show, we're talking about how the entire cryptocurrency space

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>is about to change. Don't go away, be right back,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, welcome back. If you're just tune in, you

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>are listening to the Mark Moss Show, and we are

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about um cryptocurrency space blowing up, and how I've

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of the regulations are going to come in and change everything,

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of people haven't really thought

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>this through. So I put out a Twitter post um

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and I said that if regularly. I think, I believe

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>regulations are going to come in and I believe it

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>will change the entire trajectory of the of the cryptocurrency space.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I said that, I think we might have seen the

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>last cryptocurrency bull right now. It's very clear to say

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 1>crypto not bitcoin, all right, So there's a big distinction.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>We already talked about that. If you've missed that part,

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to the podcast where I kind

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>of broke that down a little bit. Or um. I've

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>made some very long form videos with a lot of

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>details on my YouTube channel. You can go search Mark

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Moss on YouTube and find those as well. But like

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, so many people lost so much money with

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<v Speaker 1>the ft X. Uh, there they have. Now you know

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>these meetings on Capitol Hill and regulations are coming. The

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>SEC failed to do its only job, which is protect people,

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and they are gonna have to step this up. But

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>what does it mean? Well, like I said, bitcoin has

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<v Speaker 1>already been deemed a commodity, but everything else is at

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>risk here. And so when I said, uh, if, if

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe they will crack down with regulations, then

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we've seen the last crypto bull run. And

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>when I said the last crypto bull run, what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean is where the entire cryptocurrency market cap just goes

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to the moon like it did in like it did

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<v Speaker 1>one again. I think that's over. I think where you

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<v Speaker 1>can just kind of close your eyes and just buy

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>any board ape or you know, JPEG or defy contract

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>or whatever and just make a bunch of money, I

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's over. Now. Does that mean that there won't

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 1>ever be another one that will go up in value? No,

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it certainly doesn't. And a lot of people really pushed back.

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>It was actually I think I had like six comments

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>on this Twitter post, which, by the way, if you're

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>not following me on Twitter, check it out. It's just

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the number one at the number one, just at one

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<v Speaker 1>Mark moss Um. But anyway, a lot of people are like, oh,

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand, Mark, you don't know what you're talking about. Um,

0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>if the SEC cracks down, it will just go off shore. Okay, Yeah,

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>they said, you don't understand Mark, the SEC can't stop innovation. Yeah, okay.

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree with both of those statements. So it's not

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that I don't understand. I think you don't understand that

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>those people don't understand and so what happens is, uh,

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>if the SEC cracks down, Yes it will push some offshore,

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and yes, m and yes we'll still have innovation. But

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>what will change is that these cryptocurrency companies. A lot

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of people say, well, they'll just pay the fine and

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>just move on. It's not that easy because if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to comply with security laws, yes they'll have to

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>pay a big fine for sure, but too then they're

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>going to have to file as security you have to

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>file s ones. They're going to have to UM, They're

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to disclose everything. So like in Ethereum's case,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, they're going to have to disclose who the

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<v Speaker 1>founders are, how many tokens they have, They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to disclose, who the insiders are, who the management

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>team is, what what the pre mind was, who kept

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the tokens. They're gonna have to disclose, UM, what related

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>parties there are. What's the relationship between Metalic Buterin and

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Joseph Luban, What about the Ethereum foundation, Um, you know,

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what insider trading or insider selling happened. What other controls

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and interests they may have between the companies, what risks

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>may be there the lost to disclose all of that,

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think they're gonna want to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think any or I don't want to say any I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think most of these cryptocurrency projects who want to

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<v Speaker 1>disclose that the whole point is that they did the

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<v Speaker 1>i c OH, the initial coin offering, the outcoin offering

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't want to do all that. So it's

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>not just as easy as they'll just pay the fine

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and they'll just move on. No no, no, no, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be forced to comply. It could take years and millions

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of dollars to do it. But ultimately, I don't think

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they're going to want to disclosed that information. And even

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<v Speaker 1>if they did, they disclosed all that information and they

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>were legally able to get away with what they're doing, um,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and they disclosed all that, then I think everybody would

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>look at that and go, We'll wait a minute. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've just bought as a software company or a

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>payment company, or a supply chain company, or a video

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>game company, and why am I buying this video game

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>company or software company over this video game or software

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>payment company. So it's going to change the game. Now,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean it goes away. No, it doesn't mean

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it goes away. Does it mean something goes off shore? Sure,

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But you also have to understand how the industry worked.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>And I've talked about this before. I read I read

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>actually directly from Sam Bankman Freed's interview that he gave

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>an about May of this year with Matt Levine believe

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it was on Bloomberg, and he basically explained that you

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>create this protocol, he calls it a ball box. You

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>create this just generic box, and you say that it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change the world, and you create this token,

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and then you trade the token to create this this value,

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and everybody wants it because you've made it look like

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>there's like it's valuable. But what really plays into that

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>game is venture capitalist. And this is a key piece

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>here that most people just don't understand. Maybe they just

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how the system works. And so venture capital

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is we're an investor invest into a new venture, typically

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like an early round, like an angel investor. And so

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>imagine like Uber in Silicon Valley a decade ago or whatever, right,

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and so hey, do you want to invest into my startup? Okay,

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>what's it gonna do? What's going to change the world

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>in this way. And here's how much money I'm trying

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to raise. And the way venture capitalist work is they

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<v Speaker 1>typically start of a fund of venture capital fund and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who put money into this fund,

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<v Speaker 1>and this fund might go invest in to say fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>different projects, and that fund locks up that money typically

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<v Speaker 1>seven to ten years. And the reason why is it

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<v Speaker 1>takes seven to ten years for these companies to get

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<v Speaker 1>big enough to be worth anything. And these venture capitalists

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<v Speaker 1>know that the majority of them are probably never going

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<v Speaker 1>to be worth anything, but some of them will hit really,

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<v Speaker 1>really big, and those investors that put that money into

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that fund have that money locked up. The only way

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>they get that money back is some sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>liquidity event. So one one of those companies would go public,

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<v Speaker 1>go through the I p O process and go public,

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and then those those early investors could eventually sell their

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 1>stock publicly or too maybe one of those companies gets

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>bought out and that creates a liquidity event. Otherwise that

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>money is locked up. But venture capitalists love these crypto

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>this crypto space because there's instant liquidity. So they're pumping

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>money in and they get tokens in return, and they

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>can go and dump these tokens some some of them

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>almost immediately, and they might make two x, a five x,

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a ten x, a fifty x on their investments immediately

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and still have more upside with the tokens they have

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>left over. So the venture capitalists love this, which is

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>why it's brought in hundreds of millions dollars of venture capital.

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>So they can make their two x by dumping on

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>your head on retail, and so then they spend a

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of money in marketing, slick marketing and media put

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. You see all this news about

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 1>all these tokens going higher, higher, higher, higher, highering value,

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>so they can get you to buy them so they

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>can dump them on you and then they all become worthless.

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>So if you understand, that's how it works, which again

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>is how it works. I got the receipts if you

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>want to check out my YouTube videos, UM and the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC cracks down. Could they go off shore? Yes, and

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>they probably will, but most countries also have some sort

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of regulations as well, so they're gonna have to navigate that.

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But more importantly, why I think we may not have

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<v Speaker 1>another Bowl run is because of the venture capitalists their

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>US based Now they love this because, like I said,

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>they can get instant liquity by dumping on your head.

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>But if all this goes off shore, they won't be

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>able to go participate because these i c O is

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>happening off shore specifically cannot include US investors. So they

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>may go off shore to some small little country that

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>they can get around these security laws, but the investors

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>won't go with them. So does it stop them from

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>one off shore? None. Does it stop the innovation, certainly not.

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>But what it does stop is hundreds of billions of

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>dollars of them of US based venture capital money from

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>going in, which then influences the media and the marketing

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>and you and allows them to dump on your head.

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think if these regulations go through,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is the most likely case, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it ends the crypto bowl run as we know it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You may not like that you've been taught and you've

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<v Speaker 1>been told that these are life changing protocols by these

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<v Speaker 1>venture capitalists that have spent a lot of money on this.

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<v Speaker 1>But as someone who studied this for over seven years,

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<v Speaker 1>published over a thousand pages of research, I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this is exactly how it works and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think it can change. But I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from you. Hit me up on

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<v Speaker 1>me know what you think. Am I wrong? And if so,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't just tell me I'm wrong. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear why, um you think that? That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>player for the recap of this and that's what I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening.