WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Final Thoughts 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.559 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.480 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:13.800 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:19.200 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:28.040 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Guys, 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.639 welcome back to Cowboys Break I remember to see I 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.920 joined by Nick Inman and David Hellman. The Draft week 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.839 is finally here. It starts tomorrow, and yesterday was a 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.560 press conference, first press conference, free draft where we got 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:50.760 to experience some of these technology issues. Our group didn't 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:55.120 really get a questioning yesterday, but we gotta put it 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.240 out there. It wasn't yours fault, right, got to address 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.200 the elephant in the room. Man. There's no way I 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.760 promise I was there. Okay, It's not like I'm making 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:11.000 a sandwich during pre draft press conference. Yeah, but we 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:16.120 were all there listening. It wasn't all asked Dave going 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:22.919 to uh, Stephen Jones. You know you you're so insistent 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.959 on addressing the team's needs and free agency so you 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.040 can draft purely, but you don't have a slot receiver, 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.280 So what gives I'm very curious about the fact that 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:38.480 the Cowboys haven't done anything with Randall Cobs addence, So 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.080 I wanted to know if they were putting a higher 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.880 priority on drafting receiver or did they think they can 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.760 find a veteran and free agency after the draft? But well, well, Dale, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:53.680 is it? Dale? Oh? Dave? Sorry, Yeah, we're wrong. We're 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.560 confident in the receivers we have. We have a lot 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.120 of good receivers behind those starting two and uh yeah, 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.480 it's hard to replace Randall cop but you know, we're 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.200 confident we could. We could go into the draft, so 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.000 there's some good receivers in there if that's the route 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:07.520 we want to go. But we're confident we don't have 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.680 to get a wide receiver if we don't need one. Yes, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.000 a really good impression and a bad answer. Okay exactly, 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.200 which is remember when we had the whole like player 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:22.239 by comedian thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm landed, and I was 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.400 going to ask to McCarthy. I was like, obviously, you 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.800 don't know that they haven't drafted a safety in almost 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.680 two decades, but you had haw Haw Clinton Dix in 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.120 Green Bay. What are you expecting what type of player 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.520 are you expecting to get in Does that solidify your 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:43.799 safety position going into the draft? Dave, I guess we 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.320 don't have the answers to that. I'm not going to 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.239 try to do the impression, but I like, I genuinely 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:55.320 do think like Stephen Jones Um whenever it was that 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.560 he talked, he went, he went on one of the 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.480 fan a week ago and said, you know, we spent 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.520 significantly at safety. We like, we made this significant addition 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.919 and I was like, oh man, I didn't realize four 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.280 and a half million dollars for haha. Clinton Dix was like, 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:14.320 this insane investment, Like I didn't realize that. So I 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.760 don't know this for sure, but we know the Cowboys 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.639 value a lot of positions more than they value safety. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.520 And we know that they feel pretty good about Haha 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.639 and darry and Thompson along with Xavier Woods. And I'm 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.079 just after what happened last year, I'm not going to 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.680 get my hopes up that they have these big plans 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:37.200 on drafting a safety. Sorry Amber a trade apparently, because 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.240 he did say, you know, there's been a lot of 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.560 talks about Jamal Adams and a possible trade with the Cowboys, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.080 but Jerry Jones were very was very clear yesterday making 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:52.480 a comment saying that they weren't gonna invest on a 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.320 trade using a trade for a high profile player. So 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.880 there goes Dad, unless they're keeping it a secret for 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.320 I don't know what their plans are for right now. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.680 You know, if anybody, I'll go back real quick what 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.280 we were talking about. If anybody doesn't understand what we 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.760 were saying. There was the pre draft press conference yesterday. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.039 They had all the media guys are in girls in there, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.480 talking about, you know, different questions and it was their turn. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.360 When it got to my turn, they couldn't hear me. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.159 When it got to Dave's turn, they couldn't hear me. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.080 And don't you find it ironic, David, As we're doing 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:32.760 this and talking about this, the guy that's running this 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.080 whole thing just send us an email that asks us 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.159 if we want to test for tomorrow's thing, which we 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:42.080 definitely need to test. But yes, the timing is hilarious. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.599 And to talk about your point, I don't know if 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.839 everybody's talking about Jamal Adams, but I feel like there's 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.200 people well I feel like I'm talking about in the media. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.880 I think it's being driven by one or two people, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.400 and I think a lot of people are picking up 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.840 steam there. I just Jerry said it highly unlikely, and 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.960 I believe that. That's one thing I do believe. And 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.920 you know, these press conferences that yesterday are always so 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.240 frustrating because I'll never forget them telling us in twenty 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.239 sixteen the drafting running back really high, Isn't that's smart 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:15.719 of a move? And then they picked a ze Kilo 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.479 like three days later, So they don't really want to 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.280 give you a lot of information. So I don't know, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.320 do you think they would get someone day If you 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.880 think they'll they'll no, not at all. But yeah, I 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.000 mean if they had plans on doing it, they wouldn't 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.080 tell us about it. It's lying season, that's what happens 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.080 in the lead up to the draft. But for the 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.719 cost of what you'd have to pay for Jamal Adams, 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.960 I have a hard time believing the Jets would let 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.440 them go for just one pick, even if it was 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.160 a first round pick. On top of that, I think, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.680 I mean, that's just another guy that needs a big 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:56.640 contract really soon. I mean, it's risky drafting players. You 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.200 never know if they're going to pan out, but they 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.000 need to find some cheap talent. They have enough expensive talent. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.719 That's something that no offense to the fans. It's just 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.560 it takes a long time to really understand that because 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.279 they look at it, and so certain media people look 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.279 at it too, and they and they say, well, he's 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.760 better than anybody. You're going to get a seventeen, which 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.280 is true, but you've got like you said, you had 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.440 a five. You had four years with a quarterback making 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.680 less than two million a year. You should have done 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.200 more with that. I mean, you can't just keep getting 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.720 these players in here. You need cheap players, like you said, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.880 Layton Vanderesh. You know, he needs to play two or 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.479 three years on a deal like this and be really productive. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.599 And it hurts when you don't have when your first 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.279 round picks turn into Amari Cooper and he's making twenty 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.599 million a year. So yeah, I mean, it's way more 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.080 likely than not the Cowboys would get a better team 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.680 in twenty twenty with Jamal Adams and no first round pick. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.000 But you look at the long term, you look at 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.520 what it's going to cost you, you look at the 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.960 you know, the overall health of your roster. One to 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.760 fifty three, like, I mean, they already had they've got. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.240 You know, their top twelve is among the best in 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.400 the NFL, but it's you know, players fifteen through thirty. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.200 Those guys do a lot of heavy lifting on good teams, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.280 and you need draft picks to make that work. And 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.640 you know, if they traded for Jamal Adams, I wouldn't 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.280 hate it. I would I would compliment the move, but 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.040 I understand why they're more committed to try and to 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:30.320 replenish their roster with affordable I mean, you can make 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.720 the case, would you rather have Jamal Adams at safety 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:40.560 next year making what twelve million thirteen million a year? 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.880 Quite more than that? Depends on when he would get 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.880 his deal. I mean, he doesn't need to be resigned 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.960 right now. Whatever his rookie salary is like five or 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.000 six right now, but I mean he will be worth 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.920 like fifteen million a year very soon to help it. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:02.520 Or Xavier McKinney for you know, a million, maybe, I 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.040 absolutely yeah. And Davian McKinney and Grant Delpit might not 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.880 ever be as good as Jamal Adams like I I mean, 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:12.480 Jamal Adams unquestionably makes you better in twenty twenty but this, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.560 like this draft, I can't. I just keep going back 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.080 to how important I think this draft is for the 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.120 Cowboys chances of competing on a higher level. I mean, 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.600 you know, they need to find three or four, you know, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.880 starters or heavy contributors in this draft class if they 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.600 be a playoff caliber team, a team that's capable of 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:36.600 winning playoff games. Also, I love Will McClay to death. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.439 I like all the guys in the Cowboys personel department, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.840 but this is a big draft for their reputation. You know, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.520 they they really earned their stripes and got a lot 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.800 of well deserved accolades for how well they drafted from 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:57.559 twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. Twenty seventeen draft looks, I mean, yeah, terrible. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.400 I think terrible is a stretched because you got three 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.240 starters out of it. You got Jordan Lewis, you got 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.720 um Fido Woozier, and you got Xavier Woods. They're not 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:12.040 like amazing players. They found three starter caliber players. Obviously 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:16.400 Tacos a bust. Yeah, but those three starting caliber players 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.920 or players that the Cowboys are looking to upgrade with 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.600 twenty seventeen is not good by any stretch. Twenty eighteen, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.480 you got gallop and we'll see about Layton. Jury is 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.760 still out. Twenty nineteen looks pretty rough. Like they need 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.520 to hit on this raft. You know, if if the 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.480 if the narrative of the Cowboys being among the best 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.040 drafting teams in the league is true, this draft is 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.360 really important. They need to kind of get back on 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.520 the horse because the last two or three years have 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:52.199 been mediocre to bad. So this is important for a 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.720 lot of reasons. I mean, twenty sixteen, there's more good 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.440 players that have come out of that combined in seventeen, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.520 eighteen and nine together, right, which, yeah, and you know, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.080 I mean twenty sixteen. I don't know if it's fair 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.280 to say twenty sixteen is the standard. I mean, that's 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.240 one of the two or three best passes in Cowboys history. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.480 But you know, twenty fifteen you found an all Pro 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.719 corner and Byron Jones. You have found a four year 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:21.360 contributor in Damian Wilson. Twenty fourteen, I mean, you're two 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.400 big picks from twenty fourteen are still on the team, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.000 Zach Martin and DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean, you gotta and 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.120 and even you know, Anthony Hitchins was a four year 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.080 star while he was here. That was a great pick 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:35.360 for where you found him. They need that, They need 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.679 their first, second, third, and preferably fourth round pick to 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.840 all have to start. But those are guys that need 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:47.680 to be contributing big time from the get It's gonna 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.079 be interesting to see because I was having a lot 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.600 of hopes on hopefully getting the players from last year's 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.640 draft to have a good offseason, get a lot of workout, team, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.280 gain some power, get health, you know, and start training 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.960 camp off pretty well. But with everything that's going on now, 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:10.480 it makes me wonder how much this virtual life is 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.840 going to affect their physical performance when they do get 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.640 back on the field. So we'll see what the Cowboys 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.560 decide to do now. Staying on the topic of the 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:25.520 defense just for a moment, we're still having some confusion 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.120 here as to what the Cowboys plan to do there, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:33.600 whether it's a four three defense or three four. I mean, 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.640 they say it's a four to three, but then you 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.200 get talking about different players that look more like a 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.840 three four. So what did you guys gather from one 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:49.800 McCarthy said yesterday, it was pressed pretty hard about that, like, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.840 you know, what, what is it? What's it gonna be 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.839 three four or four three. I mean, it doesn't matter 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:59.720 that much. You just nailed it, Amber, thank you. Doesn't 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.320 really And I think there's only confusion if you're obsessed 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.400 with the label as this black and white thing that matters, 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.800 like and you know what, it makes sense why people 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.679 feel that way because the last defensive coordinator had a 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.000 very rigid black and white approach to things. We're gonna 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.439 have four down linemen. The right end is going to 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.720 have this skill set. I need this from my undertackle. 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.680 My left end is going to do this. We're gonna 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.240 play these coverages. I get it. But Rod Marinelli is gone, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.000 and I just don't think that Mike Nolan and Mike 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.600 McCarthy are going to approach their defense that way. It 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.800 is a four three front. They are going to have 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.440 four down linemen at least for the time being. But 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.440 from the sounds, they want to bring pressure with players 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:46.120 that aren't necessarily always pass rushers. Jalen Smith comes to mind. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.400 Alden Smith and Randy Gregory are also obviously versatile guys 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.880 that could play in either front. I think you're gonna 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.160 see a lot of everything, and it should be exciting 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:00.640 more than confusing because for years and years in years, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.480 we kept hearing, Oh, that guy's not a scheme fit, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.640 that guy doesn't do what we've fit what we want 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.200 to do. Well, we'll see you mean they like it. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.120 Sounds like they just want to draft good football players 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.880 and figure out what to do with them later, which 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.480 is how everyone in the world should approach this thing. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.440 I'm very excited it's going to look like yeah, me too. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.960 I mean when you when you look at Randy Gregory 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.360 and Alden Smith, if those two guys get reinstated, and 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.520 it sounded like Jerry and Stephen didn't really want to 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.320 be the ones to talk about that because it's a 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.080 touchy situation and they don't know. And I guarantee the 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.880 NFL's thinking about bigger things right now than than reinstading 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.640 some of these players. But you know, they look like 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.880 three four pass rushers. That's what they look like. Their 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.680 body types are. DeMarcus Lawrence looks like he is a 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.080 four three pass rusher. He's not. He doesn't have a 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.560 great fit in a traditional three four scheme. Ontari Poe 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.640 looks like a three four guy. Um Durri McCoy to 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.400 me a four three but that's the beauty of it. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.600 I mean, you can make these switches in between a series, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.600 in between a play, and I think that that's just 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.079 saying what Davis is pointing out, just get good playing. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.960 A really good example of this is two of the 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.360 guys that we're talking about a lot at the top 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.120 of the draft, Caleb and Jason out of LSU and 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.720 Zach Bond out of Wisponsin. I wouldn't be shocked if 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.960 under the previous regime both of those guys were out 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.400 of consideration because we don't know if he can put 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.640 his hand on the ground and play right in does 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.400 that remind you of T J. Watt at all? Like 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.400 that was the bit like is can he play? Can 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.480 he put his hand on the ground and go? Whereas 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.680 if the Cowboys were to draft Zach Bond, they would 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.160 probably say, all right, we're gonna find some looks for 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.680 you where you can rush as an outside brusher, can 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.520 play a little bit of sam lineback, or you can 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.400 do this, that and the other, and by the time 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.200 it's all said and done, you'll be playing seven percent 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.200 of the snaps. And that sounds awesome to me, rather 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.560 than just saying, oh, he's never really been a four 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.760 or three end, so get him out of just get 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.600 him off the board. We don't like him. When we 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.960 went to a restaurant in Indianapolis at the combine, we 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.760 were fortunate enough, Dave and I were fortunate enough to 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.480 go with some of the other media guys and we 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.440 were just kind of talking a little bit on the record, 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.680 mostly off the record, and McCarthy said exactly that. He said, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.080 you know, if you got a player that doesn't really 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.200 fit your scheme but he's a great player, then you 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.200 need to change your scheme. And I like, look over 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.720 at Dave, and Dave is you didn't do it? But 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.360 about as well then like the Dion Sanders, it was 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.360 just like, oh, thank you, thank you, We'll see you 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.840 can actually do that. But it's they've said everything I 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.960 want to hear. But now this is like the first 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.320 true test. Obviously we haven't seen any actual football under 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.600 Mike McCarthy, but the decisions they make this weekend could 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.840 go a long way about, you know, shaping what they 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:56.840 actually want to do. So that's really exciting. Now. Another 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:03.080 thing that was discussed yesterday, actually Jane Slater was pressing 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:09.280 on pretty hard. It was about that. Dak Prescott was 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:14.480 the topic of discussion yesterday. The whole franchise tag number 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.640 was recalculator recalculated, and he finally came out with a 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:23.600 total what was it, thirty one point something point four 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.280 thirty one four and four around there, which was kind 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.600 of around the amount we were expecting. Now. When asked 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:39.560 if Dak has been participating in this virtual voluntary offseason program, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.400 McCarthy kinda he tried his best to kind of not 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:48.280 answer it. Basically said that Dad has been in communication 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.560 with the coaches, but he's not going to be taking 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.680 role of all the players that do take part on 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.240 this program because it is voluntary. Now in the way 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.040 that I thought I heard it, I mean, that didn't 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.000 make me feel like it sounded as if Dac was 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.000 participating in the voluntary program or not. What do you 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.600 guys think I think that there? I thought, I think 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.679 that Mike mccartthy answered that question as best as he 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.680 can because it is a volunt Like you said, it's 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:27.280 a voluntary program. The minute the Cowboys, especially their head coach, 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.240 start revealing to the media who's who's participating and who isn't, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.640 then he's subject to you know, I don't know if 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.680 I don't know if it's a fine or anything like that, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.760 but but you certainly don't want the league jumping in 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.359 and saying, why are you throwing out these players business? 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.880 Because he said we're definitely not going to be taken role. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.720 But he also mentioned that he's doing everything he's communicating, 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:54.600 so I looked at it like he is participating somewhat, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.720 but he can't say whether or not he's there or not. Yeah, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.080 And I think talked about this last week, like if 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.920 if this was the real offseason program and we're doing 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:10.480 workouts and on field learning and all that stuff, I understand, 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.359 but like I don't care if if Dak is on 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.920 the zoom call, I don't care, Like like I said 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:21.400 it last week, like he's got his iPad, it does 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.000 because like you know, I mean, it's you know, do 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.439 I need to be Do I need to be on 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.720 a zoom call with Derek and Nick at all hours 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.359 of the day for them to know that I'm like 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.600 handling what I'm supposed to be handling, you know, No, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.760 Like we're all we're mature adults and we can accomplish 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.240 what we need to accomplish. Without having somebody virtually breathing 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.760 down our neck, Like I don't care if Dak logs 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.159 into a single call. He's got his iPad, and like 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.920 I said last week, like I think he cares way 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.160 too much about being good at quarterback to like throw 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.520 his iPad across the room and not ever look at it. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.320 Like I'm sure he's looking at it. I'm sure he's 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.160 gonna handle what he needs to handle. In the meantime, 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.960 as long as all this weird stuff going on, I 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.200 don't care if he's logging in or not. Maybe I'm 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.320 alone in that, but it just seems silly to quibble over. Well. 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.200 Another thing that was interesting though about that whole conversation. 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.879 It is okay, yes, they said that they're still in 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.160 the work so in the hopes of getting a long 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.440 term deal with Dak Prescott, but they are not kind 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:27.879 of not canceling the possibility of drafting a quarterback in 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.479 this draft. Jerry Jones mentioned how Mike McCarthy likes to 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:36.480 have extract quarterbacks in the room, get them to develop, 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.880 and hopefully in the future, use them as a trade 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.480 or just you know, as an investment overall for the future. 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.760 What are your thoughts on this whole quarterback drafting. If 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.679 they do draft one, what would be like around what 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:56.600 round would you be looking at? Well, I mean, yes, 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.160 Mike McCarthy likes to do that, and that's what's something 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.320 Green Bay has on that they drafted five quarterbacks in 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.359 the time he was there, and they had five and 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:08.680 Aaron Rodgers. But that's not what Jerry Jones likes to do, 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.359 and so it'll be interesting to see that he's done 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:16.240 it once or so with Mike White, and I don't 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.240 think you know that that didn't work out, But that 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.200 doesn't mean you stopped trying. Some of those Packer guys 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.480 didn't work out either. How's it going to work out 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.040 when you have a Pro Bowl quarterback there? So I 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.720 just think that that if we're looking at it, I 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.960 would say fifth or sixth round. That's that's how you 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.520 develop a quarterback, because anything higher than that, these guys 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.760 should be somewhat ready to contribute. They still need development, 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.919 But I think fifth or sixth round because you have 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.040 other needs. You have guys, like Dave said, you got 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.159 to hit on these top four picks. Yeah, that's what 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.280 I was gonna ask based on all the other needs. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.600 I mean, do you would you Dave think that there 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.520 is room for a quarterback to be drafted in this draft. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:02.280 I don't not high not in that, not enough. I know, 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.640 you know they talk to Jalen Hurts. That's a name 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:09.119 that keeps getting brought up. But you probably have to 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:14.040 draft him with or maybe eighty second. Maybe he falls 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.080 that far, but he I mean yeah, like we keep 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.679 saying they need they need pass rushers and cornerbacks and 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.919 safeties and a receiver. They could probably use some linebacker 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.159 depth like all, I mean, where, how how are you 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.679 justifying that on a guy that you hope is not 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.359 going to trust the field? Um? And I mean I 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.639 get it, I get it. The higher you draft from, 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.640 the more likely he is to be good. But if 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.359 they want to do it on Day three, that's fine 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.440 with me. I think you know some guys you could 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:44.520 draft in the fifth, six or seventh round that I'd 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.160 be fine with. But a premium pick on a quarterback 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.600 when your quarterback is only twenty six is scary to me. 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.680 And it's hard to convince Jerry Jones otherwise when he's 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.720 got one of the best quarterback that he's ever had 0:21:57.840 --> 0:21:59.560 here in the last ten years that he got an 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.840 eighth round, if you will, and there wasn't one an 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.200 undrafted free agent Tony Romol. So you know, I think 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:07.600 when you get to that point, you might as well 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.960 just get you know, get it undrafted. But I honestly, 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.880 I would rather, I would rather draft a punter. I'm 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:18.520 not joking. I would rather. Yes, and we're gonna go, 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:23.440 We're gonna get that excited punter. We're gonna go draft 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.480 to A and M kid. Yeah, it's the Braden Man 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.480 in the six or seventh round. I'd be on board 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.639 with that for sure. Yeah. I just think, you know, 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.199 I think at that point you might as well just 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.760