WEBVTT - Drive Time: Offensive Line 2024 Dolphins Draft Preview with Dane Brugler and Dante Collinelli 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.480 To our remove Dahlan Deep Speedlins Beasts from the Baptist 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:07.320 Health Studio. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:12.640 This inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is Drivetime 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:14.680 with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.440 He's got my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:31.640 What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.640 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.559 we continue our draft preview series with a couple of 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.920 heavy hitters. Dane Brugler from the Athletic joins us to 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.800 break down the tackles, and my good buddy Dante Colinelli 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.519 helps us kick inside on the interior offensive line from 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.800 the Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.280 This is the Draft Time Podcast. Bye Daffy. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.560 Let's kick it off with my first guest, talking offensive 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.480 tackles and his mock draft up on the Athletic all 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.839 seven rounds for your Miami Dolphins and every team across 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.080 the National Football League. From the Athletic, Dane Brugler. Real 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.360 to be joined today by the author of The Beast. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.319 The best draft guy in the game if you ask me, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.240 he's Dane Brugler from the Athletic. Welcome in, Dan, and 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.679 I begin with this question because I am dying to 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.760 know the process behind the Beast. Do you start with 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.560 the tape, then get to your background as a vice versa? 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.400 And then if you had to count them, how many 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.360 cumulative hours do you think you put into the Beast 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:29.960 every year? 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.920 Maybe asking my wife would be a better way of gauging. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:40.319 That's it's a NonStop fact finding mission, it really is. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:45.120 And it starts, really it starts eighteen months ago, because 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.080 you know, like right now, I'm not looking for the 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.160 twenty twenty five draft, but I can't help pick up 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.440 some random info whether you know, maybe I'm talking to 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.920 a player or a coach or a scout, and ultimately 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.080 something comes up about a player for next year, and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.680 so I'm making these notes and or watch tape and 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:01.920 who's this number twelve? 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:02.760 Always a sophomore? 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.320 Okay, someone might be looking at next year, and so 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.000 I'm making these notes, and you know, it just builds 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.680 over time, and by the time we get to the 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.000 finish line, you know, we've got these comprehensive reports. 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.160 And so it's just it's it's. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:21.440 A matter of NonStop talking to people watching the tape, 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.519 just trying to find the way, the best way I 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.799 summarize it is there's all these puzzle pieces out there, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.880 and it's my job to collect as many puzzle pieces 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.720 as possible. And then some of some of these pieces 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.320 are those, you know, a big corner piece that's so 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.880 important to the overall picture. But just to make sure 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.160 I get all the puzzle pieces I can, because when 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.640 you put it together in the report, it's the most 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.160 clear picture of who this guy is as a person, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.640 as a player, who's going to be at the next level. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.320 So yeah, it's it's an exhaustive process, but yeah, I 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.280 tell you, when I release it and it's available for everybody, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.280 it makes it all worth it to hear all the 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.160 feedback and how much people use it and get out 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.240 of it. And so even though it is a beating it, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.560 it does make it all worth it. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.760 I always say that in this industry, in this in 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.400 this world, that feedback and just kind of some of 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.560 the you know, general praise for a job well done, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.560 it goes a long way. I mean, I've I've been 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.799 there several times where I've had these long series where 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.160 it's just like, when is this thing going to end? 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.960 Then it does and you get some love and some 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.000 feedback and like you said, it makes it all worth it. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.440 Do you have your vacation plan for post draft yet? 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:24.799 I feel like that it's gotta be an annual thing 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:25.160 for you. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.320 Yeah, well, I do make sure and take the month 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.880 of May to kind of recharge. No vacation, but I do. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.280 I just look forward to just mowing my lawn, you know, 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.240 I got, I got over an acre of land here. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.520 I just I look forward to that and coaching my 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.120 my son's baseball team, my daughter's softball team like that. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.000 That's what gets me. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.480 Kind of just relaxed and you know, a chance to 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.560 just take a deep breath. But then yeah, once June 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.400 first comes, it's right back into it. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.360 Well, you are in good company here as far as 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.320 a man of a certain age on this podcast, I'm 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.800 right in that same wheelhouse my friend, A nice cold 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.400 one on a summer day and mowing your launch here 0:03:59.480 --> 0:03:59.600 you go. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:00.880 Tough, tough to beat that. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.600 But we didn't have you on here to talk about 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.200 monar lawns and how much time you put into the 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.920 draft process. Here we want to talk about the actual 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.000 draft itself. So let's go ahead and dive right in 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.040 to perhaps the best position group in the entire class 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.920 the offensive tackles will do interior offensive line with my 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.280 next guest here in just a second, but I want 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.120 to go ahead and start here with Dane because the 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.040 Dolphins have their starting tackles for twenty twenty four, right 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.320 toront Armstead. We don't know how many more years he'll 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:24.920 play beyond this one. It could be this one, it 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.320 could be Multimore years, who knows. They also have Austin 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.800 Jackson their right tackle, who just got a contract extension too, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.520 So Miami, I think is certainly in play to add 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.200 somebody there. My question to you to start this thing 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.440 off is how many of the tackles do you think 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.560 are gone? How many guys do you think are completely 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.400 out of the equation by the time MIMI comes up 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.080 to twenty one to make their selection. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.400 That's an interesting question because I we're going to see 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.920 several of these guys off the board. It's just, yeah, 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.560 how many I think it's obviously Joel be gone Notre 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.640 Dame left tackle a good chance, JC Latham from Alabama, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:05.719 Fuaga from Oregon State, Olufashnu from Penn State, and let's 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.320 let's say Troy Foutinu from Washington. Let's include him in 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.880 this mix, even though some viomes a guard. So that's 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.080 six tackles right there that I think will be off 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.720 the board in the top twenty picks. And then it's 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:22.960 a question of okay, who's Amarius Mims, Geydon, do they 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.920 Tyler Goyiton, do they go sneak into the top twenty, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.760 into the top twenty two or are they more in 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.160 the mid twenties. So we're gonna see these guys fly 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:32.400 off the board. We might even see some of the 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.279 interior guys like a Graham Barton sneaking at top twenty 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.240 as well. So it's gonna be a very offensive line 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:43.240 heavy first round, very offensive period heavy first round. Where 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.120 in my mock draft, my seventh round or that just 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.320 dropped on the athletic I had twenty one offensive players 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.000 and we've never seen twenty offensive players drafted in a 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.520 first round. So we're gonna see this very offensive heavy 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.719 first round, and those tackles are going to play a 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:58.200 big part. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.520 So you talk about the Amarius Mims, Tyler guid and 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.599 a couple of guys that you think might be available there, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.080 I'm curious because, and you know, it's funny how the 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.200 draft shakes out every year we have these rankings, and 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.760 for you, Dan, like you do this in the sense 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.440 of like for you know, for commercial right, for like 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:15.960 a fan of the draft that wants to take a 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.840 look at all thirty two teams. But every team has 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.599 their own individual way they do this. And for the Dolphins, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.359 I mean it's Chris Career talked about earlier this week, like, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.320 we have the style of play we play, and we 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:27.840 need the guys that fit that style of play. And 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.440 it's pretty clear on the offensive line it's good ten splits, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.560 guys that fire off the snap, Guys that can get 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.960 out in space and make blocks outside of the numbers, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.720 and be able to really emphasize the Dolphins wide zone 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.240 play action concept that marries up together. So with that 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.880 in mind, I know Amarus Mims is an athletic, Marvel 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.839 has some injury concerns that go back, you know, a 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.040 couple of years. You talked about Tyler Guid and I'm 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.320 just curious, which guy do you think that could be 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.640 available at that spot twenty one. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.640 Maybe it is Troy Fontona, like you mentioned you Dubb. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.440 I think his game is really fun, But who do 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.560 you think could possibly be available there that fits that 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.640 idea of explosive athlete on the edge, a guy that 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:02.680 can do a little bit of what they want to 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:03.440 do here in Miami. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.960 Yeah, Mims and Geiton, those two guys talking about who 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.120 realistically could be there and guys that fit what the 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.160 Dolphins are looking for. They're very interesting. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.760 And especially I don't think anyone looks at the Dolphins 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.679 and say, okay, well they need to draft an offensive 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.400 tackle in the first round, like I don't think anybody 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.680 looks at it like that. But if maybe they're their 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.800 options are wiped out at that point and they're picking 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.520 at an interesting spot where they might only have one 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.600 or two true first round grades left on their board, 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:37.240 and so do you go with that first round grade 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.120 even though maybe it's not an immediate need over a 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.960 second rounded graded ed drusher or whoever they in what 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.640 a position they might view as a little bigger need. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.640 So that plays into this as well. With Mims and Giton, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.560 you've got guys that are physically impressive. I mean, Amarius 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.320 Mims six seven three quarters, three hundred and forty pounds. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.080 I've never seen a three hundred and forty pounder look 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.240 like him. It is very clean, it's there's no sloppy weight, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.840 it's it's really impressive. And then okay, eleven inch chances 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.920 over thirty six inch arms of almost eighty seven inch wingspan. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.120 This guy is a marvel. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.640 And you just you love the traits, you love the size, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.400 you don't love the body of work. Eight career starts, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.720 and I think there's a big difference between inexperienced and raw. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.480 I don't think he is raw. I think he's inexperienced. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.040 So to me, that's an encouraging sign because you go 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.680 back to the first game he ever started against Ohio 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.440 State in the College Football Playoffs last year, and he 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.960 was outstanding. He played really well against a good opponent. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.160 And now, of course you wish he would stayed on 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.840 the field, and you know, I don't know that it's 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.880 necessarily you're worried about him staying healthy. I didn't think 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.200 it was just more freak injuries. He had the ankle injury, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.320 and you know he was waited his turn to see 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.680 the field. So I don't know that I'm as much 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.559 worried about the durability as I am just the inexperience 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.480 and how long is it going to take before I'm 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.000 comfortable putting him out there on the field and trusting 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.600 him to get his guy blocked. But you're very encouraged 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.400 by the traits. And so for a team like the 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.320 Dolphins that maybe don't need a guy from day one, 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.640 they can develop him at his own pace. He makes 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.719 some sense. And same thing with Tyler Guiton. He's a 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.720 similar size, just maybe not as not caring as much weight, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.680 but he's six seven and three quarters. He's three hundred 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.959 and twenty five pounds as they were, thirty four inch arms, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.200 eighty two inch wingspan, but he's at You love the 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.960 Tyler Geiton tape where he's out in space. Use him 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.640 as a lead blocker, whether he's pulling short pulls, long polls. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.559 If you're a safety, the last thing you want to 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.840 see is Tyler Geiton barreling down on you. And you 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.400 know both these guys, it's interesting they're right tackles. I 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.880 think they have the athleticism and the ability to play 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.920 loft tackle, but we just don't have that body of 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.120 work to pull from. And so this is why you 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.520 pay your offensive line coaches all that money to evaluate 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.000 that first and foremost to you know, during these meetings, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:00.439 during the the pro days, during the personal work outs 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.920 to figure out, okay, can they play left tackle? And 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.640 then once they get them into the into the facility 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.800 and onto the practice field, actually developing them and making 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.720 sure that they can play left or right and be 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.880 interchangeable at the offensive tackle position. So these two players 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.560 are really interesting because they have the traits just and 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.240 all the talent and all the traits in the world, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.080 just maybe not the consistency. But will that come with 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.360 more experience. There's a good chance it does, but of 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.559 course that's not guaranteed. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.760 And that type of risk is why you have the 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.480 potential of getting them in that range right in the twenties, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.200 because if Amarus Mims had four years of college tape 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:37.880 that the way he's built and the way he looks 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.960 and the way he plays, he's not going out at 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:41.480 the top ten, maybe in top five with the way 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.040 he's built up and just looks like a potential you know, 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.960 dynamite grand slam at the back end around one type 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.000 of draft pick, and you kind of answer my next 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:49.600 question I. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:49.920 Had for you. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.800 There was the idea of, you know, because I always love, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.679 you know, going through the scenarios. Dan and kind of 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.120 trying to figure out what how the draft might play out. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.760 And sometimes when you have a group that is that deep, 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.120 you can get guys that fall and drop. And just 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.160 looking at the Dolphins, you know current draft cap and 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.600 I want to get to your your mak your seven 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.439 round mock here in a second, but you know they 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.640 have that big gap between pick fifty five and one 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.640 fifty eight, and so I'd love to get back into 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.680 that range and add a pick. Do you think that 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.320 there's a guy that they could possibly target in a 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.880 trade back scenario? Is it Geytin or Mims that they 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.400 could then also recoup a mid round draft pick for like, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.680 who's kind of the next tier of tackles if the 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.640 Dolphins move back in that between twenty one and fifty 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:27.360 five range. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.240 Yeah, And this offensive tackle class gets a lot of 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.800 attention because it's so top heavy, but I don't I 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.640 don't love the depth this year at the position. I 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.120 think it is a position where you want to get 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.800 your guy early and if you don't get them in 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.840 the first round, you're not gonna love your options in 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.760 the second round. I think you'll like some of these guys, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.960 but you're not gonna love necessarily the amount of guys 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.719 that are left for you, So you have to get 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.200 your position early if you want that offensive tackle. So 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.319 after the first round, if we're looking and say that 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:01.040 early to mid second round, we're talking about Kingslisue from Byu. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.560 Really talented, but it's gonna takes a little bit of time. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.200 There's going to be a big development process for him. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.760 Patrick Paul from Houston six seven and a half, three thirty. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.120 You love the length over thirty six inch arms, but 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.160 he's an example of where the length kind of works 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.280 against him because he if he misfires with that punch, 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.800 it takes him at an extra half beat to pull 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.000 those arms all the way back and get his guy blocked. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:23.720 Reset. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.720 So you know, Roger Roseen Garden from Washington is also 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.160 in that mix, Blake Fisher from Notre Dame. There are 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.320 some equality talented tackles on day two, especially in that 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.280 second round. But you know, kind of like what you 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.120 were talking about with Mems and Geion, you know they're 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.240 if they're available in the twenties, it's for a reason. 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.199 Same thing with these guys that they're available in the 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.840 second round. It's for a reason. And you're sacrificing something, 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.880 and in most cases with these guys, it's because it's 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.679 it's just going to take time and it's more of 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.679 a projection for them at the next level. So now 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.280 I do like in the third round, I really like 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:03.520 Herrying Megaggi from Yale. He he's a inexperienced raw player, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.280 but I love where he could be three years from now. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.079 Cayden Wallace from Penn State, He'll be in that third 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.040 fourth round mix, just he's a really consistent player. Some 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.080 teams really like Javon Foster from Missouri. He'll be also 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.400 in that fourth fifth round mix. So even though this 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.800 isn't a super deep class at tackle, after that first round, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.600 there are some players that you can target and say, Okay, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.120 I think he could be a starter for us down 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:26.480 the road. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.000 Yeah, I do wonder if that's where Miami goes. Because 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.640 of what I talked about earlier with the It's nice 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.040 to be in a position where like you kind of 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.480 have the need, but for now, like tomorrow, you can 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.960 play a game, especially when you do have Kendall Lamb 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.840 and Jack Driskell on all these backups that have given 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.200 you quality reps. You know, a tackler guard or otherwise 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.640 in the league. So far, so Dan, We're gonna come 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:46.920 back on the other side here. I want to get 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.959 to your mock draft for the Dolphins and just kind 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.880 of ask you for a couple of deep round sleepers. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.720 That's why I say, like the scouts make their money 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.280 right in on Day three and in the UDFA priority guys. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.680 We're going to talk about all that next to my 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.760 guest today from The Athletic, Dane Brewer. Draft Time podcast 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:05.440 host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. Back 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.840 here with my guest today from the Athletic. The Beast 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.320 just dropped the greatest draft guide there is out there 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.240 right now, go check it out on The Athletic Dane 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.400 Brugler talking about the offensive tackle class and how the 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.120 Dolphins might dip their toe into that water. And you 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.680 gave me a bunch of great names in the middle 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.520 rounds there. But if the Dolphins keep the status quo 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.840 and do not move draft picks around, we will not 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.240 have a chance to see both of these guys most likely. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.360 So one fifty eight is the first pick they have 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.440 outside of the first two rounds. Then again one eight four, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.800 one two forty one, Dane, you're an area scout for 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.240 the Miami Dolphins in this hypothetical, and you have to 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.080 pile on the table for a guy that you think 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.080 we should take on Day three or a guy that 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.880 goes undrafted and you think has a chance. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:44.600 Like you talked about with. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.720 The previous guy, a couple of guys there two or 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.440 three years down the road, they could be hits in 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:49.960 your in your lineup down the road. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.280 Who are a couple of those guys for you, Dane. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.040 Well, I'll stick with you. I'm mocked with to the Dolphins. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.280 In my seven round mock draft on the Athletic in 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.840 the fifth round had him going with Christian Boyd Northern 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.600 Iowa defensive tackle six two and a half three hundred 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.280 and thirty pounds. He dealt with an injury and so 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.720 he had to push his pro day back and wasn't 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.600 clearly he wasn't one hundred percent just yet. But when 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.320 you have a guy that's just naturally stout like he is, 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.160 you can line him up in the middle as kind 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.520 of that nose, but he can be interchangeable because there 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.440 is more pass rush potential in him than I think 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.680 what he put on tape. So you have got a 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.320 guy that's stout, he's gonna hold a versa run. But 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.320 then give you a little bit extra because he is 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.600 a pretty decent athlete for that size, and we're talking 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.760 about a fifth round price tag. I think he's in 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.600 that mix to be one of the first first two 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.560 or three non combine guys drafted. You know, there's plenty 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.320 of love around for him around the league. And then 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.920 in the sixth round, I had them going with a 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:58.400 really interesting corner from Colorado State Chi Jose Unusium. He's 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.960 a col transfer, only one career interception, and I know 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.640 that that was something that you know, you want ball 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.360 production when it comes to corners, but you also want 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:13.280 six pounds with four to three speed, really good tester, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.720 and it shows up on his film at the athlete 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.200 that he is. He's a player that again the ball 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.800 production is going to really bother you as if you're 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.000 looking at draft a player like this. But we're talking 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.120 six round and so heightweight, speed, Give me a guy 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.760 that stays attached in with his coverage. He can play man, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.200 he can play zone. Just a guy that is a 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.640 he's a quality tackler as well, So there's a lot 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:41.440 of things alike about this player as another non combine 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.760 guy who I think has a good chance to get 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:44.360 drafted late. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.480 We have to come back to the first two picks 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.120 in this mock draft because we want to go ahead 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.200 and keep all the guys that are casual draft fans 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.120 with us here and not get too deep into the weeds. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.600 I love the additions you made there on days on 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.320 day three there, I was gonna say days two and three, 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:58.760 but it's just a three. But I want to hear 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.360 about the guys the top of your mock draft here, 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.640 which is Latu Lats from UCLA and Jatavian Sanders the 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.520 tight end from Texas. Someone'm just curious about how you 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.600 feel those guys would fit into the Dolphins if they 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.439 want not being the picks come draft night. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.960 Yeah, obviously, the when you look at the Dolphins up chart, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:18.840 they've invested in the edge rush position, but with injuries 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.960 and you know, you're just I don't think you're ever 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.200 done building on the edge. On the edges, you want 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.919 guys that can help create disruption. The more you can add, 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.600 the more you can give your other guys rest. And 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.639 so I don't think you'd be surprising if they went 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.159 in that direction in the first round, and especially a 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.560 player that you know is very similar to Jalen Phillips. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.960 And when talk about his journey and with the medicals 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.439 and all that, Leatsu Latsu is not in terms of 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.440 size and speed, He's not something that you know, is 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.560 not superhuman in those areas. But where he does stand 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.119 out is his pass rush savvy. He understands how to 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.800 use his hands, the timing, the moves, the transitions. A 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.160 lot of guys coming from the college level, they're used 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.280 to being bigger, stronger, faster, and they have never really 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.280 had to hone in on the technical aspects of playing 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.800 the position. Where a lot too. That's where he shines. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.879