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Speaker 1: There's a new report coming out. Senator Ron Johnson put

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Speaker 1: us guys. According to the New York Post, top federal

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Speaker 4: I mean, they lied about everything, and the crazy conspiracy

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Speaker 3: Everything COVID related. Anytime like the conspiracy theorists would say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is shocking news to me. Again,

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Speaker 1: I was not aware that the administration prior to this

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I don't want to make the trust

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Speaker 5: screenings first prostate, which was totally a lie. But now

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Speaker 5: look at that video with Joe Biden when he was

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Speaker 5: actually even worse when people are really paying attention. Sorry

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Speaker 1: That I don't know might have thrown stuff out that

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Speaker 2: Us go huh.

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Speaker 1: the point. Whoopee is also just finding out, like myself,

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Speaker 3: Trust issue.

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Speaker 5: There has always been a mass trust trust issue because politicians,

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Speaker 2: Well, when did you know it was bad.

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Speaker 1: Okay, April, I gotta start with you.

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Speaker 5: First of all, they were.

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Speaker 7: Lying woop be that's the whole thing we're trying to say.

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Speaker 7: Or do you think Whoope is just that just dog

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Speaker 4: Whoopy and the View were literally a part of the

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Speaker 4: Like do I pretend amnesia or something. The internet is forever.

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Speaker 4: I can find every single clip. Remember she said that

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Speaker 3: Does she think we're all stupid and we can't like

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Speaker 4: And she also remember what she said about the surgeon general,

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Speaker 4: She should be the surgeon general, sweetie. She's a PhD

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Speaker 1: She's she's a fantastic doctor. That's what I was gonna

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean doctor Jill Biden. Not only

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Speaker 5: I mean, what an unbelievably run white house doctor Jill

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Speaker 5: Here's the final thing with Whoopy Goldberg. It's not that

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Speaker 5: oh wow, what a realization by Whoopy Goldberg. She's outraged. No,

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Speaker 5: she got a call and the leftist told her, Hey, whoopee,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna act surprised. You're gonna pivot away and act

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Speaker 5: like you were just as surprised as everybody else in

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Speaker 5: the left wing media. It's all coach. She's told what

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, and that that would kind of align what

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Speaker 1: we were talking yesterday about Jake Tapper's book, which again

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Speaker 1: tons of revelations that nobody ever knew, but in it

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Speaker 1: he was basically talking about yeah, people who people were

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Speaker 1: lied to by Biden's inner inner, innermost circle, which to

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Speaker 1: me sounds like that book is running cover for the

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Speaker 1: people who were running cover, which I think aligns with

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Speaker 1: what you were saying. So fantastic world we live in.

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Speaker 1: April Silverman, Mike, Chrispy, guys, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate taking the time.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we actually check in with Monica Page

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Speaker 1: again from the White House, with a fantastic package that

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Speaker 1: President Trump first President Biden White House Oval office meetings

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Speaker 1: are like all that. Coming up after the break, don't

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Speaker 1: go away and welcome back to Turning Point. Tonight we're together.

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Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback, shaking

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Speaker 1: things up a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Today.

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Speaker 1: You usually have culture apothecary, but I thought this was

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Speaker 1: fascinating it and needs more and more attention. It's not

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Speaker 1: often that Congress agrees entirely on something, which is exactly

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Speaker 1: what the Senate did on the Take It Down Act.

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Speaker 1: Turning Point White House correspondent Monica Page put together a

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Speaker 1: fantastic package. Let's watch this and then We'll check in

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Speaker 1: with Monica on any new information. But also there's some

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Speaker 1: other interesting Oval Office stuff that I feel like we

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Speaker 5: Watch this one.

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Speaker 6: President Trump and First Lady Milania Trump officially signed the

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Speaker 6: Take It Down Act into law, going into effect immediately.

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Speaker 9: This will be the first ever a federal law to

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Speaker 9: combat the distribution of explicit imaginary posted without subjects consent.

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Speaker 9: We will not tolerate online and sexual exploitation, and especially

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Speaker 9: it's gone on at levels that nobody's ever seen before.

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Speaker 9: It's getting worse and worse, and I think this is

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Speaker 6: This bipartisan supported legislation is designed to combat non consensual

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Speaker 6: sexual imagery, including deep fix and revenge porn, criminalizing the

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Speaker 6: publication of these kinds of images. Behind the creation of

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Speaker 6: the Take It Down Act is Texas teen Elliston Berry.

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Speaker 10: I mean, when this first situation happened, I was terrified

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Speaker 10: to even walk out of my bedroom. So being here

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Speaker 10: today speaking my story and having a bill being signed

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Speaker 10: that protects people, it's just been a full circle moment.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's been so much helling for me, and

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Speaker 10: it just means so much to me to have this

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Speaker 10: ability to speak and share my story and really just

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Speaker 10: validate my feelings because when this first happened, everyone thought

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Speaker 10: I was overreacting, and in reality it's not. This situation

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Speaker 10: is increasing, and it's just so important to have something

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Speaker 6: Elliston fell victim to inappropriate artificial intelligence images created of

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Speaker 6: her own life when a classmate took a photo of

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Speaker 6: her from her Instagram account, ran it through an AI

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Speaker 6: program that removed her dress, and sent the digitally altered

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Speaker 6: image around on Snapchat. Upon reporting the incident, her Senator

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Speaker 6: Ted Cruz got wind of it and sent it to

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Speaker 6: the President's desk with near unanimous bipartisan support.

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Speaker 10: When the first lady first took up on this I

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Speaker 10: I had never even thought that this would ever sort

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Speaker 10: of happen. And even all this movement and awareness that's

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Speaker 10: there and sitting extra was so inspiring, especially because I'm

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Speaker 10: is just so amazing the fact that She has taken

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Speaker 10: heart for protecting children.

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Speaker 6: It's been so amazing. Unfortunately, sexual images created by AI

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Speaker 6: are not entirely uncommon. According to a twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: report from Home Security Heroes, more than ninety five thousand

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Speaker 6: deep fake videos were created online in twenty twenty three alone,

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Speaker 6: a whopping five hundred and fifty percent increase from twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 6: with ninety six percent of those videos being non consensual pornography,

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Speaker 6: primarily targeting women. Ahead of the signing, Press Secretary Caroline

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Speaker 6: Levitt told Frontlines what the consequences would be if platforms

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Speaker 6: refuse to comply with the Take It Down Act. Thanks Caroline,

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Speaker 6: you mentioned the President and the First Lady are signing

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Speaker 6: the store.

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Speaker 3: Take It Down Act this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious, you know, what are some of the repercussions

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Speaker 6: or consequences for these online platforms or perpetrators that will

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Speaker 6: com fund.

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Speaker 11: YEA, Well, what this bill does. It takes the initial

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Speaker 11: step to ensure that prosecutors are able to take down

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Speaker 11: That's why it's called the Take It Down Act. Platforms

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Speaker 11: that are allowing this sexually explicit content on their platform

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Speaker 11: so it gives them more leeway to go after them

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Speaker 11: as they see fit.

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Speaker 6: The Federal Trade Commission will be in charge of enforcement

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Speaker 6: for those non compliant platforms and perpetrators. Those officials say

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Speaker 6: if the images and its duplicates are not removed within

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Speaker 6: forty eight hours of notification, penalties are jail time, fines,

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Speaker 6: or both, with a level of penalty differing depending on

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Speaker 6: whether the victim is a minor or adult. Now many

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Speaker 6: say this is the tip of the iceberg and keeping Americans,

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Speaker 6: especially young teens, safe from digitally created sexual abuse. And

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Speaker 6: as for Elliston, her fight is far from over.

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Speaker 10: My message to anyone that's been going through a situations

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Speaker 10: similar is to not give up. I mean, your voice matters,

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Speaker 10: and it's really important to have conversations and conversations matter

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Speaker 10: and talking about this because I would still be in

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Speaker 10: my bedroom alone, probably crying, if I didn't have an

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Speaker 10: amazing mother and an amazing friend group that also was

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Speaker 10: there for me and that also went through something similar.

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Speaker 10: And our next steps is hopefully when this bill gets

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Speaker 10: in place, you're able to have that handbook to hold

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Speaker 10: the perpetrator accountable and big tech accountable. But next my

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Speaker 10: mom and I are working with a bunch of people

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Speaker 10: to get AI curriculum implemented in order to protect more

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Speaker 10: people in bigger environments and have schools have some sort

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Speaker 10: of handbook, and for any really work facility to have

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Speaker 10: some sort of handbook in order to contradict these AI.

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Speaker 6: Crimes from the White House forefront lines with turning Point,

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Speaker 6: I'm Monica page.

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Speaker 1: As powerful stuff. Let's bring back turning points White House correspondent,

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Speaker 1: Monica Page.

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Speaker 5: Monica.

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Speaker 1: That was again not many times that everybody agrees on something,

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Speaker 1: but a hundred percent of Senators voted for this, huge

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Speaker 1: numbers in the House. I think twenty two people didn't vote.

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Speaker 1: Two Republicans voted no. That you know, that's their own

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Speaker 1: kind of personal thing and don't really need to get

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Speaker 1: into it, But the overwhelming majority of Congress thought this

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Speaker 1: is a good idea. You know you were, you were

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Speaker 1: around this whole thing. I think you were the first

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Speaker 1: person that I heard talking about this. Because the mainstream

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Speaker 1: media is not really hot that trot about this issue.

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Speaker 1: You know what, more, can you fill in any gaps

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Speaker 1: that might have missed in that not missed in that piece,

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Speaker 1: but that might be helpful to contextualizing this.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely well, this is a bill that was really championed

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Speaker 6: by Texas Senator Ted Cruz when it was brought to

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Speaker 6: his attention by a young teen girl of Texas, Elliston Barry,

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Speaker 6: who I was able to interview in that package, and

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Speaker 6: she really a voiced her displeasure with her LOFE local

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Speaker 6: community off camera. She was saying she couldn't really get

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Speaker 6: the resources locally that she really needed to kind of

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Speaker 6: bring her message and share it, spread the awareness of

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Speaker 6: what happened to her, because guarantee, she's not the only one,

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Speaker 6: and guaranteed that artificial intelligence is only going to get

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Speaker 6: more and more complex. So this is really just the beginning.

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Speaker 6: It could just be the tip of the iceberg as

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Speaker 6: to what's to come, and it's important that we clamp

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Speaker 6: down on these issues now rather than later. And First

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Speaker 6: Lady Malania Trump actually really has been spearheading this at

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Speaker 6: the White House, which I also think is fantastic because

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Speaker 6: you don't really hear much from the First Lady. You

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Speaker 6: mostly hear from the President himself. But to get a

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Speaker 6: lot of bipartisan support as far as what the First

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Speaker 6: Lady is doing, I think is also incredible, especially recognizing

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Speaker 6: that this happens to the majority. Ninety six percent of

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Speaker 6: women face something like this. So to see Malania Trump

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Speaker 6: as being, you know, the face for something like this

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Speaker 6: and spearheading it, it definitely it brings it instills a

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Speaker 6: lot of confidence in the American people, especially with young America.

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Speaker 6: And so we are in such a digital age right now.

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Speaker 6: Anything can happen. The picture gets into the wrong hands

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Speaker 6: of somebody, a bad actor, and who knows what could happen.

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Speaker 6: So it's it was very Uh, I guess it makes

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Speaker 6: of administration that's really putting a stop to something like this.

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Speaker 6: And I actually reach out to the FTC because the

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Speaker 6: FTC is going to be pushing forward a type of

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Speaker 6: punishment and it's not going to be the DJ, It'll

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Speaker 6: be the FTC. And he basically said that depending on

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Speaker 6: whether the victim is an adult or a minor, the

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Speaker 6: perpetrator or these online platforms that do not comply will

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Speaker 6: be facing some kind of penalty as far as jail

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Speaker 6: time or fines, So there will be helped, there will

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Speaker 6: be some accountability to be held as far as those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's incredible, and it just gives

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Speaker 1: me some hope politically too, right, because everything is so

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Speaker 1: contentious and it's it's good to know that there are

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Speaker 1: some things that we can just all agree on and go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is bad. We should figure out how

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Speaker 1: to how to stop. But Monica, you know this is

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Speaker 1: outside of this particular issue. Just because we've got you

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Speaker 1: for a little bit longer, you've been hot to trot

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Speaker 1: about the differences between the Trump White House and the

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Speaker 1: Biden White House. And again we're not trying to re

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Speaker 1: litigate the Biden administration just being bad, but instead put

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Speaker 1: the context of how awesome it is to having a

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Speaker 1: you kind of tell us about the differences between the

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Speaker 1: all that.

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Speaker 6: Well, what's interesting I find is that when the world

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Speaker 6: color guard out here, the flags are up. Is such

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Speaker 6: a warm welcome when you arrive here at the White

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Speaker 6: House if you're a world leader. Under President Trump, there

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Speaker 6: were many times under the Biden administration where these world

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Speaker 6: leaders would come to visit and they wouldn't even have

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Speaker 6: any sort of military salute or any sort of warm welcome.

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Speaker 6: You just kind of drive up to the Oval Office,

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Speaker 6: and Joe Biden wouldn't even greet some of these world leaders.

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Speaker 6: But the President always makes it apparent and a point

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Speaker 6: to stand at the front door, give a handshake, take

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Speaker 6: a photo, and say, come on in, let's talk. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's the very first stark difference that I

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Speaker 6: really recognize. And the second close second comes when they're

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Speaker 6: sitting in the Oval Office together under Joe Biden with

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Speaker 6: mumble a couple of sentiments welcome, thanks so much for

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Speaker 6: being here, We're looking forward to our conversation, give a handshake,

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Speaker 6: and then the comms people at the White House would

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Speaker 6: say okay, thanks press and usher everybody out before they

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Speaker 6: even get a chance to even discuss.

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Speaker 5: Some of these issues.

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Speaker 6: But under President Trump, I'm finding which is so interesting,

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Speaker 6: I think it's very important to note, you know, seeing

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Speaker 6: We'd get the daily guidance from the Biden administration. The

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Speaker 6: It's very interesting, and those are days at a time

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Speaker 6: we'd actually go weeks without even getting a press briefing.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's night and day, clearly this being the

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Speaker 6: But the amount of accessibility, it's just it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Well, Monica, as you know, the hallmark of dictation is transparency,

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Speaker 1: because again the media cost President Trump a dictator, and

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Speaker 1: fascinating to hear, Monica, great reporting as always, really appreciate

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Speaker 1: stuff is out of the way.

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Speaker 2: It's not for woke Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Highlighter jacket lady. First up in Woke Wednesday

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Speaker 1: is just play it. Just play the club.

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Speaker 13: Some carry hate. We carry the largest trans Pride flag

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Speaker 13: to ever be flown in a national park and unfurled

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Speaker 13: it on the side of ol cap to prove a

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Speaker 13: point that trans is natural. A Trump administration and transphobes

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Speaker 13: would love to have you believe that being trans is unnatural.

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Speaker 13: But species that can transition sex can be found on

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Speaker 13: every continent and in every ocean.

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Speaker 7: On planet Earth.

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Speaker 13: So call it a protest, call it a celebration. We

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Speaker 13: are bringing elevation to liberation. They try to erase us

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Speaker 13: from government websites and education systems and libraries. So we

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Speaker 13: raise this flag higher than ever before. So every trans

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Speaker 13: person knows that they have people that love them in

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Speaker 13: their corner. The People United will never be defeated.

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Speaker 1: Uh. There is a secret plot implemented by conservatives in

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Speaker 1: order to make Libs look dumb. For the purpose of

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Speaker 1: making Libs look dumb, this covert operation is called Project

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Speaker 1: Let Them Talk. I don't need that's that's it, That's

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Speaker 1: all we have to do. Just let he's talking about.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You think this is unnatural? Yes, yes I do, and

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Speaker 1: you know gets it as much as you want. But

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Speaker 1: I most of the American people, to my understanding, have

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Speaker 1: the ability to see and understand in their head what

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Speaker 1: is natural. And if you'd like to make that case,

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Speaker 1: you're more than welcome. But holy cow, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many converts you're gonna win over with that. And also, too,

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Speaker 1: what point does that prove you made a big trans

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Speaker 1: flag and put it on L Capitan and somehow proves

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Speaker 1: something we're good at hanging flags. I guess yeah, we

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Speaker 1: know you do it all over the place and all

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Speaker 1: the time. Good luck with your good luck with your

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Speaker 1: mental problem. Let's before we ramble too long, let's get

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Speaker 1: to this next clip, which I just this is just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This guy trying to find a job

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 14: Hey, nobody told me it was gonna be impossible to

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Speaker 14: at all. I've been applying for a year a year

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Speaker 14: my resume. I took it out of my resume. I

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Speaker 14: job that I've been working for like two weeks now,

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Speaker 14: scared to tell them what it's like. I literally I've

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Speaker 14: been fine every other state I've lived in, even Ohio,

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Speaker 14: and god forbid I had diversity and any thought any

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, sorry, that's just it's called liability. See here,

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Speaker 1: when you live in a state that is sane, you

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Speaker 1: time arsonist. They're gonna burn down your store or your

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Speaker 1: shop if somebody lists. Hey, but by the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: with my mental state. Yeah, that sounds like an HR

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Speaker 1: problem in a disaster waiting to happen. That that kind

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Speaker 1: the welfare system and the fact that this person couldn't

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's also a bright shining light in

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Speaker 1: this particular video. But anyways, that's going to do it

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Speaker 1: for us here at turning points tonight. So thankful that

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place.

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Speaker 2: God bless American.

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Speaker 8: As I continue my UK trip. We've had amazing time

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Speaker 8: so far, and I'm grateful to producer Andrew for filling

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Speaker 8: our one. I have another amazing interview for you guys,

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Speaker 8: with Glory, author of his great book Atheism Kills. You

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Speaker 8: can watch this entire interview completely ad free on members

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Speaker 8: radio or watching on Real America's Voice, enjoy this interview. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 8: very special guest here today about a topic near and

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Speaker 8: dear to my heart and to all of you. But

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Speaker 8: atheism I think is dying in the West. We'll talk

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Speaker 8: about that. Joining us now as a friend of mine,

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Speaker 8: Barack Luri, Barack. Great to see you. Thanks for having

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Speaker 8: not to be confused with Barack Obama. I'm sure you

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Speaker 8: get that a lot all the time, and I do

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Speaker 8: not like it. I'm sure you don't know. You're much

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Speaker 8: wiser and you believe in God. I don't know if

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Speaker 8: Barack Obama doesn't not. But okay, so you're the author

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Speaker 8: of a very interesting and important series of books tell

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's called the Atheism Kills Series. There are three volumes.

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Speaker 12: The first one came out in twenty seventeen called The

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Speaker 12: Atheism Kills, the next one was in twenty nineteen twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty Atheism Destroys, and the last one that is about

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Speaker 12: to be wrapped up, Atheism Steals. And what I do

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Speaker 12: consequences of a world without God. And it's not very pretty.

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Speaker 12: It's going to be a terrifying world if we were

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Speaker 12: not hypothetical for me to say that we have ample

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Speaker 12: examples of that, both in the world of fascism and

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Speaker 12: in communism. They were so overwhelming, The evidence was so

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Speaker 12: overwhelming that this is what happens when you operate a

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Speaker 12: government without God. It's a little bit like that old

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Speaker 12: egg commercial. I don't know if you remember it, Charlie,

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Speaker 12: but you put these eggs in a skillet and then

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Speaker 12: this is your brain. This is your brain on drugs. Well,

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Speaker 12: this is your this is your world on atheism. It's

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Speaker 12: not a pretty one. I show in these books that

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Speaker 12: atheism kills on an epic level beyond belief. Hundreds of

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Speaker 12: millions of people have died in the twentieth century and

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Speaker 12: are continuing to do so. That has been evidenced by

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Speaker 12: Hitler's reign and fascism. Generally speaking. Hitler was not a Christian,

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Speaker 12: by the way, and I do.

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Speaker 8: Want to eve into that later. Yeah, that's one that

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Speaker 8: I get sure quite often.

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Speaker 12: Oh, it's an easy response. Communism, of course, was by

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Speaker 12: definition atheist. You had to be an atheist in order

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Speaker 12: to actually adopt communism. It was the engine of communism.

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Speaker 12: Alexander Siljanetian, the great Soviet dissident, said that atheism was

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Speaker 12: the central pivot of communism. It could not exist without atheism. Naturally,

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Speaker 12: they wanted to get rid of religion altogether because religion

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Speaker 12: was the ultimate threat to the government. They wanted you

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Speaker 12: to completely be subservient to the government systems, and therefore

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Speaker 12: what you have to do is just abandon religion altogether.

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Speaker 12: And that's what they largely successfully did in the Soviet

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Speaker 12: Union and to some extent in China. But these are

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Speaker 12: really horrific regimes, and we need to understand that. Aside

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Speaker 12: from that which is bad enough, it all destroys everything

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Speaker 12: else that we value, things like truth and logic and science,

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Speaker 12: the concept of family, concept of relationships, the concept of

870
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Speaker 12: free speech, for example. All these things derive because of

871
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Speaker 12: our belief in God and our values in that even

872
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Speaker 12: our sense of beauty, our sense of storytelling, of music

873
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Speaker 12: and art. None of these things would exist without God.

874
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Speaker 12: And one of the things that I always love to,

875
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 12: you know, ask people to do, is to simply ask

876
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 12: this question, why are things the way they are? Why

877
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Speaker 12: do we love music? And if I were to ask you, Charlie,

878
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 12: what music you like, I'm going to get an answer classical. Yeah,

879
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 12: you might like classical, somebody you might like hip hop,

880
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 12: somebody like rock and roll. Likewise, if I were to

881
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 12: turn to you and I said, you know, Charlie, I've

882
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 12: got a great story for you, you lean forward and

883
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 12: you say uh huh. You won't respond by saying, oh, thanks, Brock.

884
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 12: But I'm not a story kind of guy, right. But

885
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Speaker 12: that only exists among humans. We don't see that in

886
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Speaker 12: animals whatsoever. There is no music in the animal kingdom,

887
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Speaker 12: no storytelling, no sense of the past or the future,

888
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 12: no sense of ancestry or to send this, no sense

889
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 12: of obligation, and these are questions worth asking why do

890
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Speaker 12: we have them?

891
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Speaker 8: So I love all this, by the way, as you know,

892
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Speaker 8: this is personally my life's work too, inspired by our

893
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Speaker 8: mutual friend Dennis Prager, which is arguing for the necessity

894
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Speaker 8: of God, not just the existence of God, which I

895
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Speaker 8: want to build out. But let's take a step back.

896
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Speaker 8: What about you? What got you into this line of work?

897
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Speaker 8: And then I have a more technical question, So who

898
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 8: are you and why are you interested in atheism and

899
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Speaker 8: its consequences so much?

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Speaker 12: Well, in many ways, I'm fighting myself. When I was

901
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 12: much younger, I was an atheist. I decided when I

902
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Speaker 12: was eleven years old I was an atheist, and I

903
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 12: decided I must be brilliant because of that, because I

904
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 12: figured it out and nobody else could. Then I went

905
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Speaker 12: to college, and I went to Stanford, and I decided

906
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Speaker 12: to write my thesis on proving that religion has caused

907
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Speaker 12: more wars and destruction than anything else. And I set

908
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Speaker 12: about to just go ahead numerically to prove my point.

909
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Speaker 12: But as I went about this, Charlie, I discovered I

910
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Speaker 12: was wrong, like dead wrong, and I was embarrassed. And

911
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Speaker 12: I decided that my thesis would be entirely the opposite,

912
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Speaker 12: proving how indeed atheism was the center of all destruction

913
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Speaker 12: and killing in Mayhem. And what really changed your mind?

914
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Speaker 12: Reading The Brothers Karamas ofv by Dusty Es. Yeah, yeah,

915
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Speaker 12: what about that? He showed me that I was shallow

916
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Speaker 12: in my thinking as an atheist, that really there is

917
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Speaker 12: no free will, There is no sense of consciousness without God.

918
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Speaker 12: And I believe in free will.

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Speaker 8: But I'm told nothing good ever comes out of Russia.

920
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Speaker 8: It's a terrible place. I'm told that it's just a

921
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Speaker 8: gas station of nuclear weapons.

922
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Speaker 5: Right there, you go.

923
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Speaker 14: I'm kidding your heart.

924
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Speaker 8: Russian literature can be very it's amazing, but very telling.

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Speaker 12: It's dark, and I always say that, you know, Dstevski

926
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Speaker 12: is fantastic because you know, people think that he's very

927
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Speaker 12: brooding and dark, and.

928
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Speaker 8: So I haven't spent much time with him. I know

929
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Speaker 8: the concepts, obviously.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but he's actually it's very uplifting these books, surprisingly

931
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Speaker 12: so Crime Punishment fantastic book, very uplifting in the end,

932
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Speaker 12: same with the Karamazov But I read these books and

933
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Speaker 12: I decided that I was really a believer. But here

934
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Speaker 12: was the problem I had. You know, in college you

935
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Speaker 12: end up kind of milling about with a lot of

936
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Speaker 12: philosophical issues. You meet some religious people. Not I knew

937
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Speaker 12: some these four guys who were Evangelical Christians, and we'd

938
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Speaker 12: always banter about the existence of God. And I said

939
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Speaker 12: there was no God, and they said there was and such,

940
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Speaker 12: but we were very respectful each other. I have to

941
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Speaker 12: pat myself on the back about that. And then when

942
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Speaker 12: I discovered that there was a God, and I remember going,

943
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Speaker 12: I decided that I was going to go to tell

944
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Speaker 12: them that I believed in God. And as I did so,

945
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Speaker 12: my my legs felt very heavy. I couldn't walk. It

946
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Speaker 12: was the weirdest thick