1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show, where we 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: I'm Scarlett fo along with Damian Sasauur and our special 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: guest host Vanessa Perdomo of Bloomberg Originals. Michael Barr is 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: off this week. Coming up on the Big Show, We're 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: going to hear from the one and only, the soccer legend, 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Mia Ham. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: Here's Baraham, what's up? Here's Ceph the record. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: We'll talk with the two time Olympic gold medalist and 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: two time FIFA World Cup champion about the state of 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: women's sports, her foundation, and of course a little bit 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: of soccer. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: You know, as you progress through the tournament, the pressure 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: gets gets much greater, and I think in the end 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: it kind of just exposed just some of the issues 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: the team was having in terms of systems and where 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: players were playing. 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Our extended conversation with Mia Ham is on the way. 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: You want to keep it here, but first, another special 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: guests joined us in studio this week. New York Giants 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: outside linebacker Caveon Thibodeau took time out of his busy week. 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: He stopped by to talk with Damien, Vanessa and me. 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Remember he was selected fifth overall last year by the Giants. 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: He's in his sophomore season. The team is off to 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: a bit of a tough start this year. We talked 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: with Thibodeaux about navigating New York and his many business interests, 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: including his Dream Foundation. Let's take a listen to our conversation. Kevon. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I really want to thank you for coming into the studio. 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about how the season is going, 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: because as a sophomore player, you had a stellar first year. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: It's going a little bit harder so far this year, 32 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and New York fans are not exactly shy about making 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: their opinions known. You've talked about how the fans can 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: easily turn into social media general managers. Talk a little 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: bit about what's changed playing in this New York market 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: from your first year. 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: I mean last year we started off winning. I think 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: that's a you know, the obvious difference. But yeah, it's 39 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: been tough. You know, I think football is such a 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: game of you know, small margin that it's like when 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: you're not able to close up out on the positive side, 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: it hurts even more. But yeah, it's it's been a 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: rough season. But I feel like you know, it's long 44 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: enough to bounce back. 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: You know, Cabon, I mean, it was a gritty performance 46 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: against the Bills, right, obviously the quarterbacks injured. I don't 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: want to focus too much on the negatives, but like 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: you know, one in five, you know, how do you 49 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: stay focused? You know, I mean, this is the first 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: time you've gone through, you know, a losing streak like 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: this since you're being in the NFL. You know, talk 52 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: to us about what's going on in the locker room. 53 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: How do you motivate yourself? 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 5: Really, you got to take the wins. 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: You know, there are really no moral victories in football, 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: But when you look at you know, either how you've 57 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: been able to play individually or how you've been able 58 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: we've been able to play as a defense. You know, 59 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: you kind of got to take the good with the 60 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: bad and understand that we can keep getting better and 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: all you can really do is your part, So you know, 62 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: just continuing and hone in on that and get better 63 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 4: every week. 64 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: You know, we still got eleven games left, so the 65 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: opportunities are still there. 66 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: And the schedule leg just eases up considerably. Scarlet, if 67 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I mean, you know, so we we. 68 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: I mean I was just. 69 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: Looking at it. 70 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: I can see the giants rolling off quite a. 71 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: Few wins, you know bystanders. 72 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm some sort of a New York fan, so I 73 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: guess that's right, you know, I mean, you know, so 74 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: I talked to us a little bit more came on 75 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: about the challenge, you know, of moving from you know, 76 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: the Organ Ducks to the New York Giants, the legendary 77 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: New York giants playing edge, you know, Lawrence Taylor, Michael Strahan, 78 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: Jason Tuck, I mean, talk to us a little bit about, 79 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: you know, some of the pressures that go hand in 80 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: hand with that. 81 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: I think it's just want to be great. 82 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about playing a sport where 83 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: it's you know, highly competitive and there are guys who 84 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: you know coming and out, the turnovers so fast and 85 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: often is that you know, you just want to be 86 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: great as much as possible. 87 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: Now being in New York, it's like. 88 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: You're in the biggest market with everybody's watching, so it 89 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: kind of just puts that extra pressure to, you know, 90 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: push yourself to. 91 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 6: Those limits and what are what is that being in 92 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: New York? How how have you been able to adjust 93 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 6: to that? Now it's your second year. Scarlett talked about 94 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 6: I mean New York fans, we're passionate people. 95 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: I would say, I went to Oregon and I'm from LA. 96 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: So the when you talk about the media, it's always 97 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: been there. I think, you know, the biggest difference is 98 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: the passion that people have. 99 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 5: For the sport. 100 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: You know, in LA football is big, but it's not 101 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: as you know, people don't take it as serious as 102 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: they do in the East Coast, So I appreciate it's actually, 103 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's what it's what keeps you going, you know, 104 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: knowing that people believe in you, knowing that you know 105 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 4: you're doing it for a reason and not just entertainment, 106 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: but you know people are really tied into. 107 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: It, so it motivates you. 108 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. 109 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: You belong to the new generation of football players in 110 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, college stars who came in with financial investment 111 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: experience from your NIL deals as a college player, and 112 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: some of the deals that you've made are really interesting. 113 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: You're an equity partner in the T ten Cricket League, 114 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: You're a team owner in the National THIRDBD League. How 115 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: did you go about finding these investments or were they 116 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: pitched to you? 117 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: So those are actually more recent, you know, when you 118 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: talk about Nio, Nio was like a space of trying 119 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: to understand the whole landscape, right, you don't know how 120 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 4: big room is until you walk in it, and making 121 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: the right decisions back then have kind of led me 122 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: to understand what I want as far longevity, you know, 123 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: starting now. 124 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: So talk about that process. Then. 125 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: At first it was you know, understanding contracts because like 126 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 4: for me, I went to college for journalism, I'm majored 127 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 4: in journalism, understanding that you know, I was gonna be 128 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: on cameras, so just trying to figure out, you know, 129 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: everything behind it, you know, like all the inner workings. 130 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: And then I did market marketing with that. 131 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: So I guess looking at it in an aspect that 132 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: now we are you know, we've been a business, but 133 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: now we're you know, basically are the business and understanding 134 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: how to I guess, leverage who I am and you know, 135 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: get what I feel like I'm worth. 136 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: You know. 137 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: So when you look at coming from college to the 138 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: to the pros, I think it went from getting the 139 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: cash like cash flow that I needed early and now 140 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: setting up plays for longevity, so understand like equity and 141 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: things like that that are going to grow that. You know, 142 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: you may not receive anything up front, but understanding that, 143 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: you know you got skin in the game. 144 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm let's talk about those ni nil dollars. 145 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: You know, Primetime, Deone Sandra speaks about his ability to 146 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: draw those nil dollars to you know, to his team 147 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: to the Colorado, you know, to Colorado. And you know, 148 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: we know there were again slam Colorado just a few 149 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: weeks back. But you know, talk to me. You played 150 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: for Primetime, I believe in twenty nineteen in the Under 151 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: Armour All American Game as a co captain for Team Sanders, 152 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: talk to us about what he brings. What what does 153 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: Deon Sanders bring to his players so that they can 154 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: get more nil dollars? What's gonna is that going to 155 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: really draw them to Colorado? You think that works? 156 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: You know, it's a different time. You know, obviously everybody 157 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 4: went to each college, you know, based on your potential value, 158 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: right what you thought you were going to be able 159 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: to make from going to said college. And now that 160 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: these guys are able to you know, get that physically, 161 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: it's a it's a completely different landscape. So I would say, 162 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: as far as who he is being primetime is you know, 163 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: kind of the driving force between everything. I mean, he's 164 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: a great he He's a guy when you looked at 165 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: him at first, people didn't really believe. You know, guys 166 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: who played the sport and go to coach it. It's 167 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: not really that same excitement, you know, or same It's 168 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: no guarantee. 169 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's no guarantee. 170 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: So you know when they see him coming in, they 171 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: you know, I wouldn't say took him for granted, but 172 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: like you know, just brushed them off. And he's been 173 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: able to do some great things. So now seeing them 174 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: on you know, the highest level or not, you know, college. 175 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Level, you think it would influence your decision if you 176 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: are high school students in Mauth, Los Angeles. 177 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: Ah, man, if I'm being honest, yeah, if if Dion 178 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: was coaching back when I was being a recruit, it 179 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: would matter because you know, having those meetings with a 180 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: guy who's is greatness. You know, it's different when you 181 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: are you're a young kid coming up because you just 182 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: see the highlights. But now you know, like, okay, he really. 183 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: Knows football, you know, So do you think that's what 184 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 6: has now is the biggest impact on college football is 185 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 6: not that the NIO ever you know, distracted you guys 186 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 6: from on the field play, but it is going to 187 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 6: impact people's decisions and where they go. 188 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: Of course. 189 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: I mean it's like, now college is what the NFL 190 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: draft is, if that makes sense. But now like the 191 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: players are making the picks rather than you know, and 192 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: it's kind of always been that way when you think 193 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: of the commitment day and all that kind of stuff, 194 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: but it's like, now you know, guys are Hey, if 195 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: I get a million dollars, we're going to a school. 196 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: Trust me, I'll be there. 197 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 6: Have you talked to any players like in high school 198 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 6: going through that process now, like, do you have any 199 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 6: advice for them? 200 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 5: Good question, Yeah, that's a great question. 201 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: I would just say, no, know where you are, you know, 202 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: stay where your ten toes are. And I say that 203 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: because everybody's situation is different. And if you're a top 204 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: player and you can go and get to the next level, 205 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: then do it and accomplish it and live out your 206 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: dreams and goals. And for all the players that may 207 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: not be at that same level, either let her be 208 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: now or ever. Because college is a place where a 209 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: lot of people stop playing sports. You go from you know, 210 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: there's only what fifteen hundred NFL players right now. 211 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 5: Versus millions of college players. 212 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: It's like if you start to understand, like, man, let 213 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: me maximize what I have now and live in the 214 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 4: moment and not necessarily worry about what the future could hold. 215 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 4: They a lot of kids be able to take advantage 216 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 4: of the of the opportunity and you know, become successful 217 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: off cave. 218 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: And I'd like to take up on what you just said. 219 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 2: Know where you are right, You're at Oregon. You think 220 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: you're playing for the Pac twelve. Now you're playing for 221 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: the Big ten, right And the same goes for Washington 222 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: and for you know, and for you know all these 223 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: other teams you know, U, S, C, U, C, l A, 224 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: you name it. Talk to us about you know, you've 225 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: lived this life, you know, traveling from you know Oregon 226 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: man to Michigan games to OSU. I mean, what's that 227 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: life going to be? 228 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: Student athletes? 229 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: Let me make it more crazy. It's not just football, soccer, 230 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 4: that's yeahs basketball and swimming, swimming, it's every you know sports. 231 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: I think it's it's going to be tough, but I 232 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: think that we're going to get the viewership. I think 233 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: the viewership is obviously what they want to do it for. 234 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: And I'm I'm I'm only excited about it because of 235 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: the players. You know, they get on a bigger platform, 236 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: and like I said, the people who weren't able to 237 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: make it to the league are going to be able 238 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: to maximize opportunities. So I'm all for it. I think 239 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: the PAC twelve was an era. You know, if you 240 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: didn't get to play in it, it's a tough scene. 241 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, I got two Pack twelve championships, great, great times. 242 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 6: While there lasting do you things need to think that 243 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 6: those other teams, to the soccer teams and swimming, they're 244 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 6: not on charter flights. Oh yeah, oh no, no, no, no, 245 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 6: that's so they're they're traveling far away, far away to 246 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 6: come on now. 247 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's ridiculous. 248 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Do you think nil and all of this is going 249 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: to change? I mean it's already changing conference alignments and realignments. 250 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: But how far along this realignment process are? 251 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: We are? 252 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: We like fifty percent of the way through. That's eighty 253 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: percent the way through. 254 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: If you ask me, I would say we're not even 255 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: We're not even fifty And I'm only saying that because 256 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: there's no jurisdiction yet. And I say that like they 257 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 4: haven't figured out a way to really. 258 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 5: Tighten it up. 259 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: So once once they do that, then then everything will 260 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: kind of scale back out, like the market almost like kids. 261 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: You know, I won't call them kids, but young man 262 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: will start to understand, you know, where they really need 263 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: need to be because, like I feel like Eve, when 264 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: Nio first started, the the market was so volatile. 265 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 5: Guys getting paid. 266 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: You know, I'm one of them, but guys are getting 267 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: paid crazy numbers, and then it kind of just plateaued 268 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: at a point. 269 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: Came on someone told me, once upon a time, you're 270 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: an avid chess player. Yeah, anyone else in the Giants 271 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: play chess? 272 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean everybody kind of just started. 273 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: We kind of like the wave just kind of came in. 274 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: So like Saquan plays chess, Leonard Williams play chess. 275 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: Door jacks, anyone any good, anyone as good as you. 276 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: I've been playing the longest, so I won't. I won't 277 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: say that they're not as good. They just don't have 278 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: the same amount of experience. 279 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: You know. 280 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 6: It's interesting to me that you talked a little bit 281 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 6: about that you got this crazy men and started plateauing. 282 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 6: But how impactful do you think it was for you 283 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 6: to make money in college and you have that financial 284 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 6: literacy going into the NFL. So it wasn't like bam man. 285 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 5: So that's what's funny about it. 286 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: When when it came out, I was actually saying that, 287 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: like it gave, you know, college athletes the opportunity to show, 288 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: you know, NFL coaches or professional coaches that Okay, I've 289 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: I can live life and I can handle having money. 290 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 4: So I guess it kind of gives you a maturity 291 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 4: factor and understanding like, Okay, if you can manage you know, 292 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: what you have at college of then you know we 293 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: can trust you at the professional level. 294 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 6: Is that a conversation that coaches and people have when I. 295 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: Actually went through the process, No, because it was so new, 296 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: But I'm pretty sure that now you know, it'll it'll 297 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: come up because that is how you handle your money 298 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 4: is going to affect how you play. 299 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: On the field. So I'm pretty sure they want. 300 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 7: To know that. 301 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 6: That's an interesting Now, how do you how so do 302 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 6: you think? 303 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: I mean, because it's just it's about just like mental health, 304 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 4: Like mental health, I won't I won't stretch that far 305 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 4: and say that, but it is about, you know, being 306 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: stressed out if you're not managing your money correctly, if 307 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: you're not doing the things that you have to do 308 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: off the field, and it's important to you, which a 309 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: lot of you know it being in America, it has 310 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: to be. 311 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, it can cause stress and you. 312 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: Don't want to you know, you don't want to be 313 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: worried about your paycheck when you got to go play 314 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: on Sunday. 315 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 8: You know. 316 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: Okay, but we did mention you know, you are an 317 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: equity partner in the T ten Cricket League. How did 318 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: that come about? I mean, now you're you know, you're 319 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: an owner of teams, you're a player on teams, like 320 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: and how much time does it take out of your day? 321 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 5: So I think it's like anything else is whatever you 322 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 5: put into it. You know. 323 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: I was just talking with my team and I was 324 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: just saying, how like, you know, you think about how 325 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: much time you spend playing video games through a lifetime, 326 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: you know, being from a little kid up to now, 327 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: and how much time is basically just wasted, you know, 328 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: not kind of contributing to who you are, what you're doing. 329 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 4: So when you look at it in that perspective, it's like, damn, 330 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 4: I gotta get back to it. I gotta go, I 331 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: gotta go change my life. But yeah, I've definitely been 332 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: I've been won this T ten deal for a while. 333 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: And you talk about how it came about. I think 334 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: that it was just the right place at the right 335 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: time for me, you know, and kind of connecting with 336 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: the right people. And you know, I told my team 337 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: that it's all about ownership inequity right in sports. Sports 338 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: is time I focused on because this is kind of 339 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: what got me here, and it's understanding that, like you know, 340 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 4: obviously everybody has talents, but physical sport is something that 341 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: you can't imitate. 342 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 5: You know, people are are blessed with the abilities they have. 343 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: So long story short, T ten is the what I 344 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: want to say, largest, one of the largest sports in 345 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: the world. So now you bring it to America, you 346 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: bring it to a new market. America is the land 347 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: of storytelling. And now it's like, now that it's here, 348 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: I would be crazy to not believe in these athletes 349 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: and we're bringing you know, legends back in these different 350 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: countries to come back and play in America. 351 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be amazing. 352 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 6: Did you watch cricket before. 353 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, No, I didn't. I didn't. 354 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't big. I've seen it, but to understand it, 355 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: you know, it was different. And now that I do 356 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: understand it, it's like, okay, you know you can enjoy 357 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: it more. 358 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 6: And you, as the professional athlete and different sport, what 359 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 6: do you bring to the ownership that you think is 360 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 6: unique and different in that aspect? 361 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: I would say New York. I feel like being out 362 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: here and being you know, having the leverage that I do, 363 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: with being able to play, with the play for the 364 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: Giants and everything else that I'm doing off the field, 365 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: I feel like I can bring them a side of 366 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: storytelling and how you know, I told you I major 367 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: in journalism and marketing. I understand how you know, I 368 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: would say the mass media kind of works. And once 369 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: you can kind of bring that side to it. You 370 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: think about all the stories in these different sports, whether 371 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: it the NFL at the NBA, that's how you know 372 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: they've been able to be so successful. So taking that 373 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: to T ten and kind of bringing those same viewers 374 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: over it will be amazing. 375 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: And then obviously philanthropy is a big part of what 376 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: you do. Hence the Dream Foundation. I wonder if you 377 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: could just tell us a little bit about that. 378 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the Dream Foundation, it's an acronym JR EAM 379 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: is the journey to readiness and Richmond through academic mentorship 380 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: and basically the premises just to give back, you know, 381 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: and you always say give back, but it's really it's 382 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 4: really pay homage, right because we wouldn't have been here 383 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: without the mentors that we have and the people that 384 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: poured into our lives. So it's about, you know, getting 385 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: more people to realize that they're mentors and find the 386 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: children who you know, need the help, right whether in 387 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: these underserved communities. And then it's about bringing resources when 388 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: we when NIL started, I partnered with a bunch of 389 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: different companies being what Beats, United, Nike, and the list 390 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: goes on. But just understanding that all of those companies 391 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: believe in me, and if I could get them to 392 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: believe than the children that I believe in, we'll be 393 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: able to you know, do some special things. So it's 394 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: been amazing so far. We just had our gala last week, 395 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: our first a gala twenty twenty three. It was a 396 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: great turnout. It was a great turn out, raise a 397 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: lot of money, and I'm excited for the future. 398 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 8: And in what journey for you? 399 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: In what part of your journey did you understand that 400 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 6: you were a mentor. 401 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: I think it was my ability to speak like I 402 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: was a fifth grade president, which is always something I 403 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: always kind of like I pat myself on the back 404 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: for because you know, to get out of here show 405 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: that young. It speaks to who you're going to be 406 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: in the future. And yeah, I started early, and I 407 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: was always a smart kid, but I just kind of 408 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: stayed on the right path and put my mind to it. 409 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: And now I just feel like, you know, the skuys 410 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: are the guys are endless. 411 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about mentors. You know, take who's 412 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: your mentor? I mean, oh yeah, who's stuck with you? 413 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: You know who do So it's my best friend's pops. 414 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: His name is Antonio Patterson. He's the president of the 415 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: Dream Foundation. But he was kind of a guy who 416 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: helped me believe, you know. 417 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: And you talk about playing sports and you look at 418 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: the statistics and you look at things like that, and 419 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: when you have somebody that can, you know, reaffirm what 420 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: you already know is amazing and what you don't know 421 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: you know, I won't even say I alreadyknew it because 422 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 4: we didn't know it until you know it happened. But 423 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 4: just understanding that, you know, you have people that you 424 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: look up to believing you, I think is amazing. It's 425 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: inspiring when it comes to you know, children in different communities. 426 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: I mean you are speaking with Kevon Thibadeaux, outside linebacker 427 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: New York Giants, founder of the Dream Foundation, in our 428 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: studios here at seven point thirty one Lexington Avenue, Keevon, 429 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us here on the Bloomberg. 430 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 5: Business of Sports. Thank you for having me. 431 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we talk with soccer legend Mia Hamm. 432 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 433 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 7: Around the world, your listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports 434 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 7: from Bloomberg Radio. 435 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show where we 436 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports. 437 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm Scarlet Foo along with Damien Sassaur and our special 438 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: guest host Vanessa Perdomo of Bloomberg Originals. Michael Barr is 439 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: off this week, so you know Mia ham soccer Legend 440 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: two time Olympic gold medalist. She was a big part 441 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: of two big FIFA World Cup wins. She spent seventeen 442 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: years on the US women's soccer team. 443 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: You're Taya Winter sets support backpack from a tight angle. 444 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: For the second of the day. 445 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: And while the future of the US women's team is 446 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: a bit in flux, the future of soccer in the 447 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: US looks pretty bright. We wanted to get MIA's take 448 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: on what's next for the women's team and for soccer 449 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: as a whole. Plus, she has a foundation dedicated to 450 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: a cause that's near and dear to her. Mia. Welcome 451 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: to the Bloomberg Business of sports. 452 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 8: Hi, thanks for having me. 453 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: So, Mia. I know that it's still a little bit painful, 454 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: but we got to start with the women's national team. 455 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: It's been more than two months since the women's team 456 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: got knocked out of the World Cup. Can you just 457 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: give us your quick take on how and why the 458 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: women's team didn't make it to the gold medal game 459 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: for the World Cup. 460 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I've been asked this a lot. 461 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: You know, obviously, I'm first of all, I'm not in 462 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: the locker room. I haven't spoken to any of the 463 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: players or the coaches. You know, I just the the 464 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: heart was there, the effort was there. I just, you know, 465 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: they just looked a little out of sorts. 466 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 8: I don't know if. 467 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: That's the system of play and having certain players in 468 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: different positions. You know, injuries going in doesn't help, but 469 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: I know a lot of teams deal with that. You 470 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: have to kind of find ways, and you know, players 471 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: are asked to kind of play out a position. But 472 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: they just seemed off all tournament, and you know, as 473 00:19:54,240 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: you progress through the tournament, the pressure gets gets much greater, 474 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: and I think in the end it kind of just 475 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: exposed just some of the issues the team was having 476 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: in terms of systems and and where players were playing. 477 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 8: You know, it's unfortunate. 478 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: I feel our best game was against Sweden, where we 479 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: seem to have, you know, some connection with with playing 480 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: kind of the two sixes in our defensive line. You know, 481 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: penalties are such a difficult way to go out of 482 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: a tournament. The best way to win, right, Uh, well, 483 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's one of those like it's squeaky 484 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: bum time the entire the entire uh you know, shootout, 485 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 3: because it really is, you know, there's a lot. 486 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 8: Of luck involved. 487 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: Obviously, technique is really important in your goalkeeper just and 488 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: and the staff doing their homework. But I'm sure you 489 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: ask any of those players, they would much rather just 490 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 3: play it out on the field. 491 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: Well, MEA, you mentioned you're not in the locker room anymore, 492 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: and obviously it's been some time, but you know, is 493 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: there any interest in returning to the game, specifically on 494 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: the coaching side. I mean, I have to ask the question. 495 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we're looking for a new coach here. 496 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I'm listen. 497 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: There are a lot better coaches, more qualified people than me. 498 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: I love doing sessions. I do sessions, whether it's locally 499 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: or with the camp I do with Christine Lily and 500 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: Tisha Venturini. You know, I kind of have that insight. 501 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: But developing kind of a whole curriculum, game plan, soup 502 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: to that kind of thing, I wouldn't really know where 503 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: to start. I mean, like I said, there's a lot 504 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: more qualified, but I would. I am available at any time, 505 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: and I have told every single national team coach that 506 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: has gone through that I'll help out in any way 507 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: I can. I love this program. Wearing the jerseys, you know, 508 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: fills me with so much pride, So anyway I can 509 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: help them be successful, I'm I'm all in for that. 510 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I can imagine that watching, you know, 511 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 9: was really hard, not as a former member, but I 512 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 9: feel like when you're part of US's national team, it's forever, right, 513 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 9: So but watching was probably a little tough. But can 514 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 9: you when you think about how these these smaller teams 515 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 9: now are advancing South Africa and Jamaica and Morocco, what 516 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 9: do you think that says about the global game and 517 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 9: how what do you think it's going to do for 518 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 9: women's soccer on the global level. 519 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just going to strengthen it. And 520 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: you know, the amazing thing is a lot of these 521 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: programs have very limited support and the sport kind of 522 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: comes around every two to four years, and look what 523 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: they're able to accomplish. You know, a lot of their 524 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: players are playing in other leagues and they're able to 525 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: develop and kind of bring that knowledge and excitement back 526 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: home and that ends up being passed along to the 527 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: younger players. But you know, hopefully that motivates their member associations, 528 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 3: their confederations to continue to invest in the women's game 529 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 3: because you just see the return on that investment, but 530 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: the excitement level is real and to see the like 531 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 3: you were talking about, just the performances of these of 532 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: these less known countries you know outside of US and Canada, 533 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: you know the three that from Conca cap that are 534 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: pretty consistent. And then obviously Europe who you know, they 535 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: have some of the best leagues right now. And then 536 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 3: we know about about Japan them being World champions and 537 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: their commitment to their development just technically, tactically and creating 538 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: environments for their players to be successful. 539 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I thought Japan was going to win it. 540 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 9: They were playing amazing, like absolutely unable throughout the tournament. 541 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 9: So you know, you you said a little bit there 542 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 9: about you know, these people playing other leagues and the 543 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 9: European leagues being really strong. What do you think does 544 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 9: that give you any kind of worry for the state 545 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 9: of the NWSL that maybe some American players start going 546 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 9: playing overseas well? 547 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: I think, you know, there are we always have to 548 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: reevaluate ourselves, you know, being owners of this league and 549 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: wanting our league to be the best in the world. 550 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: How do we make it better? And you know, right now, 551 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: you look at what the top clubs in Europe, not 552 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: just the tournaments they're able to compete in, but also 553 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: the money they're able to spend and bring in all 554 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 3: the top name. 555 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 8: Players all over the world. 556 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: And you know, if if Sophia Smith or one of 557 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: our top players came and asked my opinion, you know, 558 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: I'd love for them to stay. But in the end, 559 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: they it's it's a business decision, both on the field 560 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: and off the field. But we we have to as 561 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: an NWSL, as a league two, make our product the 562 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: best that we can. What we have in our league 563 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: is incredible parody and I think every single game is 564 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: exciting and that's why the run to the NWSL Championship 565 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: is going to be unpredictable, exciting, and you know every 566 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: game is two teams just going after it. 567 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 9: The decision day was the nuts. 568 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: Huh. 569 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were at the I mean I go into 570 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: those things not even knowing like what we need, and 571 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: so it's really fun at BMO Stadium in our section, 572 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: like Julie Foudy, Joy Faucet, Shannon McMillan, Tishaventarini, Laurie and 573 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: Ronnie Fair, like we're all sitting there and and Saski 574 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: Weber was the one who knew because she's you know, 575 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: she does commentary for the NWSL. So she was sitting 576 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: behind us telling us, Oh, we need these many goals, 577 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 3: you know, we definitely need to win. And I was like, oh, 578 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: there's too much math involved. 579 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 8: I just want to. 580 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: Keep scoring and ensuring that we win. But it was 581 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 3: such an amazing atmosphere and just you know, our team 582 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: just never gives up. I mean they continue to fight 583 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: to the end and you know, just so proud of them. 584 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: That was soccer legend Mia Hammer. We've got more with 585 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: her straight ahead on Bloomberg Business Esports from Bloomberg Radio. 586 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 7: Around the world, you're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports 587 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 7: from Bloomberg Radio. 588 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the Bloomberg Business of Sports show, 589 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: where we explore the big money issues in the world 590 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: of sports. I'm Scarlett Fou for Damien Sassaur and our 591 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: special guest host this week, Vanessa Perdomo, who is in 592 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: for Michael Barr. We are talking with Mia Hamm, the 593 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: one and only widely acknowledged to be one of the 594 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: best women's soccer players of all time. She joined us 595 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about her foundation and what 596 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: she sees as the future for women's soccer in the US. 597 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 598 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: Nia. 599 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: You mentioned, you know, Christine Lily, you mentioned Julie Faudi, 600 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: you know you mentioned these names, and you know, look, 601 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: I'm forty nine years old. To take it from me. 602 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: I mean, now, fast forward to where we are today. 603 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: You have two twin sixteen year old girls and eleven 604 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: year old boy. You're a soccer mom. I mean, are 605 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: you a soccer mom? I mean, talk to us about 606 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: what it's like to be the parent and not the playmaker. 607 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: It's it's funny. My husband and I were just talking 608 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: about this because we're laughing over like do you. 609 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 8: Exercise now, do you work out? 610 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: Do you train? 611 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 8: And what are all the differences? What do they mean? 612 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, well, training meant your entire 613 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: day was dedicated to what you did, and now that 614 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: you have kids. 615 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 8: It's like you just exercise. 616 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 3: You try to figure out what you can physically do 617 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: in the day that correlates to some type of exercise, 618 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: whether that's like dropping your kid off at a practice 619 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: and then just walking around the block for thirty minutes. 620 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: However you can get it done. If that's stretching outside 621 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: the car great, But you know, I think once you 622 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: have kids everything is about them, where when I was playing, 623 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: it was every everything I did was about my performance 624 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: and helping the team performance best. 625 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 626 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like ten to twelve hours a day. You're 627 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: committed to your own performance and maximizing that so you 628 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: can make yourself as good as of an athlete as 629 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: and a soccer player as possible, and trying to make 630 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: your team the best team it can be. And now 631 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: it's your team is different and you're expending the energy 632 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: to making sure that you know your kids are in 633 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: the best position to be successful. 634 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: Scarlett, Can you imagine Mia Ham getting her work up 635 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: by stretching at you know, after school pick up. And 636 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: by the way, MIA's husband just isn't any husband. This 637 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: is no more see a power a former shorts up 638 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: for the Boston Red Sox we're talking about here. But Mia, 639 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: you know, let me just ask you one thing in 640 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: between all of these, you know, post retirement life you have. 641 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: You're also a co owner of the defending champion Los 642 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: Angeles FC. Talk to us about you know, their number 643 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: two C in the West. The playoffs are coming up. 644 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, what's it like to be the owner of 645 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: a championship football club. 646 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 8: It's been a lot of fun. 647 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, our ownership group and the managing 648 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: partners are incredible and their commitment not just to the 649 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: product on the field, but our community and. 650 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 8: Understanding that. 651 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: It's it's a lifelong legacy that we're trying to leave 652 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: for the city of Los Angeles. It's something we want 653 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: our supporters to be proud of every single time they 654 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: come into our stadium and or excuse me, watch LAFC compete. 655 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: You know, we talk about our supporter section, the thirty 656 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: two fifty two. That's our heartbeat, that's the energy that 657 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: in a long season, and we've had a really long 658 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: season with Champions League and everything. They provide the energy 659 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: and they show up every single match, both home and away. 660 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: And you know, not just with LAFC, but Angel City. 661 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: We're part of that ownership group. So it's managing schedules 662 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: as well and making sure you're able to watch them 663 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: both in person and on TV when they're playing away. 664 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: Me I'm so glad you mentioned Angel City because it 665 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: has a very unique business model. I mean, first of all, 666 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: it's women majority owned. There are a lot of celebrities 667 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: involved in Natalie Portman being one of them, Alexis Ohanian 668 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: not a woman, but still married to a very accomplished 669 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: female athlete. The business model entails this ten percent sponsorship model, 670 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: where each sponsor chooses a specific area of impact and 671 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: works with Angel City to identify partner organizations working on 672 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: that issue. Can you talk a little bit about that 673 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: draw and whether this is something that can be scaled 674 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: or duplicated across other professional teams. 675 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: I think it definitely can be scaled and duplicated for 676 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: other you know, other teams, you know, even here in 677 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. I think it's you know what I love 678 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: is it's really easy to talk about Angel City and 679 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: LAFC because I was saying, we're both really committed to 680 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: our community, and. 681 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 8: You know, we don't just come in and. 682 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: In the neighborhood of our stadium feel that we're there 683 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 3: just for the two to four hours that the premium 684 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: game and post game kind of excitement. Like we're invested 685 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five days a year. 686 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 8: And. 687 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: I I think it's important. One of the things I 688 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: love about being involved in women's sports is this sense 689 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: of mentorship and creating an environment where. 690 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 8: You know. 691 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: You care about not just the game, but the legacy 692 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: that you're leaving. And what I love is our players 693 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 3: at Angel City have embraced it incredibly well and they 694 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: feel it's part of their responsibility of being a part 695 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: of this club, but just being a part of this 696 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: community and part of the human race of helping others 697 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: and giving back. So, you know, I love the fact 698 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: that our clubs are so community focused and based. And yeah, 699 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: there's there's a lot that can still be done, and 700 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: I know other teams are are looking at us as 701 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: a model to how to create that. 702 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I'm really glad you mentioned that. I mean, 703 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 9: I think it's it's something that a lot of ass lets. 704 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 9: You know, it's just ingrained in you guys, right to 705 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 9: be part of the community, to be more than just 706 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 9: the athlete itself. You know, you have the MEAHM Foundation 707 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 9: that you work closely with the bone marrow transplant community. 708 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 9: Can you talk to us about that in your personal 709 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 9: connection with it? 710 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and thank you. You know, this project has 711 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: been incredibly personal for me. You know, I've been able 712 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: to partner with Insight to raise awareness about GVHD, which 713 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: is rap versus host disease and that's a potential complication 714 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: of a bone marrow transplant. You know, I've been an 715 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: advocate for the bone marrow transplant community ever since my 716 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: brother Garrett became sick and needed a bone marrow transplant 717 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 3: and I was kind of in a position, my family 718 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 3: was in a position we didn't know what to do, 719 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: where to go, and we're incredibly grateful the doctors and 720 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: friends that kind of gave us direction and support through 721 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: the process. So any way I can give back to 722 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: this community. And you know, with graph versus host disease, 723 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: it's really important for patients and their families who are 724 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: going through a bone marrow transplant to kind of get 725 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: as much information so post transplant they can be proactive 726 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: in their treatment. And we talk about, you know, just 727 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: if anything seems off, like if you're feeling a little 728 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: sluggish or you notice a rash, you know, talk to 729 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: your medical team. Don't think, oh, it's no big deal. 730 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: You know, preemptive treatment can can help you kind of 731 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 3: make the effects of graph versus host disease a lot less. 732 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 3: So we encourage people to go to GVHD now dot 733 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 3: com slash fans, you know, because these these patients are 734 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: in the flight of their lives and their families have 735 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 3: are an incredible support system for them, and we want 736 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 3: them to know that we're cheering for them. 737 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: You know, me, I was cheerleader. 738 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 9: In your corner right via him as your cheerleader. 739 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 8: I love it. 740 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: Well, you know, speaking of cheerleaders, Van, So let me 741 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: build on that. You know, I believe it was nineteen 742 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: ninety nine, you know, the FIFA's Women's World Cup, and 743 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: I believe Garrett did get to attend, you know, some 744 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: of that tournament. But I mean, you know the Rose Bowl. 745 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: I mean mea ninety thousand fans at the Rose Bowl 746 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 2: in Pasadena, California, two to one penalty shootout, the three 747 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: versus China. I mean, do you just think about that 748 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: every day? I mean just for I mean, I mean, 749 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: do you still think about this? 750 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 3: There's a there's a lot of haziness for that because 751 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: it was so gosh Darnhaut. 752 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: That was Mia him the soccer legend. We've got more 753 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: that conversation coming up next on the Bloomberg Business of 754 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 755 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 7: Around the world, you're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports 756 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 7: from Bloomberg Radio. 757 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show, where we 758 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports. 759 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm Scarlet Fou for Damien Sassaur and Vanessa Perdomo of 760 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Originals. Michael barr is off. This week we are 761 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: talking with the all time soccer great Mia ham Let's 762 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: listen in. 763 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: I believe it was nineteen ninety nine, you know, the 764 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: FIFA's Women's World Cup the Rose Bowl. I mean, Mia, 765 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: ninety thousand fans at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California, 766 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 2: two to one penalty shootout victory versus China. I mean, 767 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 2: do you just think about that every day? I mean 768 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: just for I mean, I mean, do you still think 769 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: about business? 770 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: There's a lot of haziness to that because it was 771 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: so gosh darnhaut right. 772 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: Where did you get dehydrated? 773 00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 5: At the end? 774 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 8: I remember I was a mess at the end. 775 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 3: I didn't get to go to any of the postgame celebrations. 776 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: So when when my teammates talk about it, it's like, 777 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: oh remember, and I'm like yeah no, They're like, oh, 778 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: yeah no. I was in the hotel room, like in 779 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: the fetal position with ivy bags going Where am I 780 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 3: but you know, there were a lot of things you 781 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 3: remember and you kind of giggle about it. I was 782 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 3: just I was at the Rose Bowl a couple of 783 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: months ago with Brandy Chestain, and you know. 784 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 8: People are like, oh, it was so cool. I go, 785 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 8: it was, but. 786 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 3: We had to warm up for the biggest game of 787 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: our lives underneath the stadium in running shoes because the 788 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: consolation match went into overtime and so we you know, 789 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: we're like, but it didn't phase us. We're like, all right, 790 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 3: just another thing, you know, that's that's cool. We'll get 791 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 3: a little some touches right before the game starts. 792 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 8: But what an incredible. 793 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 3: Venue, and you're right, just just being a part of 794 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: that tournament, being part of that team and you. 795 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 8: Know, creating history. 796 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 3: And then you see what's happening to the game now 797 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: and how many millions of people are able to watch 798 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 3: women's soccer and the Women's World Cup in Australia. I thought, 799 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: you know, I was lucky enough to go and just 800 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: to see the reception and the excitement in country and 801 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: then obviously watching it when I was back home, there 802 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 3: was a buzz about it, and that's that's just going 803 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 3: to make this tournament continue to grow. 804 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: Well, you're pretty familiar with being around a buzz. You 805 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: are the source of a lot of that buzz. You 806 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: played obviously college soccer at UNC. You led the tar 807 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Heels to four street NCAA Championships, which is kind of 808 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: mind boggling. Of course, now college athletes have the opportunity 809 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: to monetize their name, image, and likeness. I'm curious, how 810 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: do you think nil would have changed your trajectory if 811 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: that was an option for you when you were a student. 812 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 8: I don't know. I mean that's I probably would not 813 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 8: have had to work in my off season. 814 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: What were you doing in the you know? 815 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 8: That was just well, just more so. 816 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 3: During the summer. 817 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 8: I was working summer camps. 818 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 3: But it was like, but if you work for your 819 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 3: own university, you were capped at how much you could 820 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 3: get paid. So it wasn't like I was killing it 821 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 3: by any means. 822 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 8: I was just. 823 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: Making enough money so I could have spending money during 824 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 3: the year, because if you had a full scholarship, you 825 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 3: weren't allowed to get a job. 826 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: Very special thank you to mia Ham for taking the 827 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: time to join us this week, and if you missed 828 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: any part of that conversation. Check it out now. It's 829 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: on demand on the Bloomberg Business of Sports Podcasts, which 830 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: you can find on Apple, Spotify, and of course her 831 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: favorite podcast platform. Plus a big thank you to Bloomberg 832 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: Originals Vanessa Perdomo for joining us. Vanessa is the co 833 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: host of Next and Sports along with Jason Kelly. But 834 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: if you didn't know, she's also a former Division III 835 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: college athlete. She played goalie for her school's soccer team, 836 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: and so speaking with Mia Hamm was definitely a highlight 837 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: for her and a highlight for us. Thank you so 838 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: much for listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports show. 839 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: We are here each and every week at the same time. 840 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: I'm scarlettfou on X at Scarlet Foo and of course 841 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: follow Damien at d Sasaur. Tune in again next week 842 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: for the latest on the stories moving big money in 843 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: the world of sports. You are listening to Bloomberg Business 844 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: of Sports from Bloomberg Radio around the world. 845 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 7: Foo