1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on normally the show with 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: normal it takes for when the news gets weird. I 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: am Mary Catherine Ham. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm Cayrol Marko Witz. You know, Mary Catherine. I was 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: thinking this that we record on Mondays and air on Tuesdays. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: But and I ask you how your weekend went, and 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: sometimes that's you know, a little delayed on Tuesday. But 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: I think you had a very eventful weekend, right, I 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: think your weekend holds into Tuesday. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. I took my children camping this weekend, which I 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: think we're a little camping cursed because it's in the 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: past like five years. I've taken them two times, and 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: one time it was thirty four degrees outside and the 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: second time it rained all night. Yeah, the entire night. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: So I did that, and then in my great wisdom, 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I came back and did a huge workout for the 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Travis Mannen Foundation with like three hundred back squats and 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of running, and then I watched a terrible, terrible, 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: terrible movie. Well movie another simple favor. 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it all not look good. 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: No. The only reason this is getting press is because 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Blake Lively's in it, and so her controversy is giving 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: it press right. Anna Kendrick is the other lead, and 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: she is charming as usual. But there's only so much 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: you could do girl, that it is. That thing's a disaster. 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the socials are really trying to sell 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: me on that movie, but I don't really watch that 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: many things to begin with, so it's not going to 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: be that. I'm glad you've be viewed it for me 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: so I can conclusively say I will not be watching that. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: I went in knowing it was going to be bad. 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping it'd be a hate watch, 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: and I knew that I was going to be semi 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: immobilized from camping plus workout, so you might as well. 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: It's perfect do that. 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: So that's what I did. 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: I love it. 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Well. Coming off the weekend, I think we might need 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: to have a semi regular segment. It's just like weird 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: ass weekend ideas from Donald Trump because the president's tweeting 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: through it like yes, sure, And he had a couple 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: things to pitch this weekend. Two ideas. One I'll start 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: with Alcatraz, but the other one is Hollywood based and 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: we'll get into that. The first one is Rebuild and 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: open Alcatraz. For too long, America has been plagued by vicious, violent, 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: and repeat criminal offenders, the dregs of society who will 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: never contribute anything other than misery and suffering, both with capital. Beginning. Yes, 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: when we were a more serious nation in times past, 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: we did not hesitate to lock up the most dangerous 50 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: criminals and keep them far away from anyone they could harm. 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to be. No longer will 52 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: we tolerate these serial offenders who spread filth, bloodshed, and 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: mayhem on our streets. Anyway, He's directing the Bureau of Prisons, 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Apartment of Justice, FBI, Homeland Security to all get together 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: to figure out how to enlarge and rebuild Alcatraz, so 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: it can only be as large as the island. Correct. 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much enlarging we can do. 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: It's currently a museum owned by the federal government, so 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: at least they got that going. 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: Right by the Parks Department. 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the pitch, Carol, What do you think 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: you know? 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: I think what he's saying is we need a bad 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: ass prison in order to scare people away from doing crimes. 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to that. But if he starts reworking Alcatraz, 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: which as you mentioned, is a museum, it's going to 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: take years and years. I don't think that he'll still 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: be president by the time that happens. You know, he's 69 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: a real estate developer. By a different island, make a 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: different prison. The thing is that prison building over the 71 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: last decade plus has become something that is very difficult 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: to do because we had this big, you know, movement 73 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: of to criminalize everything and defund police and don't put 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: anyone in jail. And it got to where private prisons, 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: for example, couldn't get bank funding to those prisons because 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: it was just seen as such a touchy subject. So 77 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: I get what Donald Trump is saying, build more prisons 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: on for it. Forget about Alcatraz. It is just too complicated. 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: I visited Devil's Island a long time ago. That's also 80 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: an island prison. It's now a resort. You know, maybe 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: maybe that could be the backup plan be here. 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, he has he has a way of doing 83 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: very specific weird pitches that I'm like, no, immediate no 84 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, But the very specific weird pitch touches 85 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: on a larger issue that. I'm like, he'll he'll do 86 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: it a different way. Like he one time in one 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: of his many, many speaking engagements last week, he just said, like, 88 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna do all the normal stuff. We're gonna put 89 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: the prisoner, put the criminals in jail, and we're not 90 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: going to have the boys play on the girls teams. 91 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: And he just lists them off, and I was like, 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: so much more of that, just like say the normal 93 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: things over again, over again instead of the weird specific thing. 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: I imagine that will be abandoned in a couple days. But 95 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: the Hollywood one is interesting as well. He has this 96 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: to say, the movie industry is their truth posts. By 97 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: the way, the movie industry is in America is dying 98 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: a very fast death. Other countries are offering all sorts 99 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: of incentives to draw our filmmakers and studios away from 100 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: the United States. Hollywood and many other areas within the 101 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: USA are being devastated. This is a concerted effort by 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: other nations and therefore a national security threat. It is 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: in addition to everything else messaging and propaganda. Therefore, I 104 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: am authorizing the Department of Commerce and the United States 105 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: Trade Representative to immediately begin the process of instituting a 106 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent tariff on any and all movies coming 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: into our country that are produced in foreign lands. Capitalized again. 108 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: We want movies made in America again. 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: Okay, get and I don't like it because I don't 110 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: see why movies can't be made in America. And the 111 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: reason that they're not is because of leftist local government 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: in places like California. There were a number of artists 113 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: over the last few years who have taken a risk 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: and spoken out and said it's very tough to make 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: movies in California, and that's also true for New York. 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: Of course, all of this is kind of the problem 117 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: of the culture of those states. Why should they get 118 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: this big boon from the president in order to make 119 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: it easier for them to make their movies here? 120 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: And it provides a ready made excuse for Hollywood for 121 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: all these losses that it has incurred because of California's terrible, 122 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: terrible policies in governacently. And now they can be like, aha, 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: the foreigners did it to us, that's it. Now they 124 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: might be so negatively partisanly polarized that maybe California would 125 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: be like, we should be a low regulation state who 126 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: allows people to make things so like I would love that. 127 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think 128 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: Gavin Newson is going to become an abundance Democrat. But 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: this goes to our old complaint about Donald Trump from 130 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: the very beginning, which is he's too liberal for us. Yes, 131 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: exactly too much of a Democrat for me. And this 132 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: is an old school protectionists make up excuses for lefty 133 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: policies kind of pitch, and I anti. The other problem 134 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: with it is that a I just like a lot 135 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: of choices. So if I pass on all the subtitle movies, fine, 136 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: but I want to have those choices. Him saying we 137 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: should have fewer choices of either movies or dolls is 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: not good. But we also are a net exporter of services. Yeah, 139 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: we are a service nation. So if we decide that 140 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: we're going to tear off services and entertainment and people 141 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: decide they're going to retaliate, that's gonna go badly for us, right. 142 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: Considering we make most of the movies. Still, you know, 143 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: the protectionist stuff, I don't like it, but I particularly 144 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: don't like it when it's protecting industries that cause the 145 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: protectionism in the first place, and so right, it becomes 146 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: like there are other industries that I would quick be 147 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: quicker to protect. Although again I don't think the presidency 148 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: picking winners and losers at all. I'm stating that very clearly. 149 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: But if you're going to protect certain industries, Hollywood is 150 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: the one that you've picked. 151 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Why why these folks don't need your help man? 152 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Look, I think if we've seen anything from 153 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: California since the fires, it's that they will not learn lessons. 154 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: They refuse to learn lessons. The politicians just absolutely will 155 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: keep doing what they're doing. The people seem poised to 156 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: keep reelecting those politicians. After a while, it has to 157 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: be their problem, their economy, and the fact that movies 158 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: films have left Hollywood has to be their problem. 159 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Yes, like y'all create hated this issue, I would say, 160 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: as far as it goes with California possibly learning a lesson, 161 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: I have enjoyed seeing Steve Hilton, who is a Republican 162 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: running for governor, used to be Fox News host and 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: he has this great branding which is all beautiful, yellow, bright, sunny, 164 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: and the tag is golden again. And I just think 165 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: as far as simple political messaging goes. Even the most 166 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: hardened lib California has to be like ooh ooh, that 167 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: doesn't sound okay, right, I hope they lean into it. 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: I like Steve Hilton a lot, but I always have 169 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: hope that places of California and New York will turn 170 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: themselves around, and they always disappoint me. But I would 171 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: love to see Steve Hilton make a run of it 172 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: and show California what they can be again. And really, 173 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to say make them great again, but 174 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: really make them great again, make them well, make them 175 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: the kind of place that people will want to make 176 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: movies in again. 177 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: Yep, it could be done, but you'd have to give 178 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: more than like four permits in four months after to 179 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: rebuild homes after these devastating files. They're fires like that 180 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: would be part of Yeah, that would be part of it. 181 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back on normally. 182 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Well. 183 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Another incident over the Crazy Weekend on Saturday, apparently Barstool 184 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: Sports owns bars. I did not know this. It's a 185 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: great idea though, like Barstool is I think really capturing 186 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: a large segment of the young males. Dave Portnoy is 187 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: a hero to many of them, he is the fearless leader. 188 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: So apparently at the barstool Sansum Street in downtown Philadelphia 189 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: over the weekend, when you order bottle service, you can 190 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: order a sign with it, so you could be like, 191 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: happy birthday, Mary Catherine, you know whatever. Apparently a group 192 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: ordered f the Jews, and the bar people made the 193 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: sign for them. Those people have been wired. 194 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like the first thing right keeping should have 195 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: happened there. 196 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, or like somebody should be like this is a 197 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: poor idea. But apparently they made the sign, and Dave Portnoy, 198 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: who owns the bar, is Jewish. 199 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: Video of course on video proudly. 200 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: They were all very happy and dancing around with the sign. Now, 201 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: of course the proverbial should have hit the fan, and 202 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: they are saying, you know, who are these people, Let's 203 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: find them. One of them is a Temple University student 204 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: who has been named Dave Portnoy took to X saying 205 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: that he was flaming mad and he was shaking, and 206 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: he was so angry about this, and you know, I 207 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: feel him. That's it makes me angry too. And it's 208 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: an his own bar, and I'm sure that it has 209 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: to be painful and hard. His initial reaction was, I 210 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: will find these people and end them for that. I 211 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: am very much for the idea of you do something 212 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: like that, you should be named your name. I'm not saying, 213 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: you know, kick them out of school or anything, which 214 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: actually turns out to be a possibility as some of 215 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: them go to Temple University. I'm not saying ruin their lives, 216 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: but there absolutely should be consequences to this kind of thing. 217 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: But then his follow up tweet is he spoke to 218 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: some people and now he thinks that he will be 219 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: sending the students of the people involved on a trip 220 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: to Auschwitz to take a tour of the Auschwitz death 221 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: camp and teach them about the Holocaust. And I hate this. 222 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: I hate this so much. I hate this from the 223 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: bottom of my soul. I'm okay with teaching. I'm okay 224 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: with showing people the way. I'm okay with talking people 225 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: out of hate, which I think is a very difficult 226 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: thing to do, and I don't think it's that possible. 227 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: I think the people need to come to it on 228 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: their own right. Showing them Holocaust stuff just has never 229 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: worked for me. And if you recall, maybe about ten 230 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: years ago, there was a DC City councilman who said 231 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: the Jews control the weather. The first thing people did 232 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: was take him to the Holocaust Museum. He left the 233 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: tour halfway through because he was like, oh, you know, 234 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: these people are not going to be like wow, other 235 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: people hated Jews, so I shouldn't. That's never going to 236 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: be the lesson. What do you think? 237 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so one, I appreciate that Portnoy was actually mad 238 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah. And our friend Adam Rubinstein, I think, 239 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: was tweeting, Oh, I'm surprised to see stool presidente, which 240 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: is what his ex handle, is more morally outraged by 241 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: anti Semitism than Harvard and Columbia, right, And I'm like, 242 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm not, no, maybe ei there. Portnoy is very outspoken, 243 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: pretty ballsy, pretty clear eyed on some stuff. I would 244 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: say I often end up falling in the same category 245 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: as him. I feel like I might be a barstool Republican, 246 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: like that's I can see that actually kind of where 247 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: I am. 248 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: You're gonna hang your saturdays for the boys? 249 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, outside, well, and he created what he did. By 250 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: the way, the reason he's so successful is that he 251 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: created Fox News for sports, right, So it's just filling 252 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: a gap for people who want news about sports that's 253 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: not explicitly leftist. Like that's what he did. He was like, 254 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: let's let's do that and let's make it fun. So 255 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: he did that, and then he also likes pizza, so 256 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: that that took off as well, because who doesn't like pizza? Pizza? 257 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: I liked that he was angry about it, and it 258 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: was more clear eyed than Harvard or any of the 259 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Ivys have been about this, because it takes them a 260 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: year and a half to put together. There a three 261 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: hundred page report that is also presented alongside an Islamophobia report, 262 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: because you couldn't just do anti of course. Yeah, but 263 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: I do agree with you that, like a trip to 264 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Europe is not what these people deserve, right, I'm big on. 265 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: You should give trips to Europe to the people who 266 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: have supported you, not people who despise you. You know, 267 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: I've been saying this the whole time. I think the 268 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Jewish community needs to do a much better job of 269 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: celebrating people who have been so good to us. Obviously 270 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: I include you in that, guy Benson. I include so 271 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: many amazing people, and I don't think we do that enough, 272 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: and instead we send people like this to Europe too, 273 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: and you know these people are going to be like 274 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: hanging out in bars in Poland, like they're not going 275 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: to be I just can't picture the kind of person 276 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: who ate doesn't know about the Holocaust, doesn't know enough 277 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: about the Holocaust, but then will be moved by the 278 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: Holocaust when they see that people that they also hate 279 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: have been murdered, you know, and mass I just I 280 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: can't picture how that works. 281 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you also make a good point about 282 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: you've said taking them on a tour of the weakest 283 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: moment for the Jewish people. Yeah, maybe isn't the thing, 284 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: right And by the way, by that token, if you're 285 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: going to give them a fully funded trip somewhere, maybe 286 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: to right in the middle of Israel and be like this, 287 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: this is where the themselves, how do you like that? 288 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: So go to a little IDF tour. But yeah, I 289 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: do think there is this big modern question of what 290 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: is the thing that you teach, how is the way 291 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: that you teach it. Because all of the money that 292 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: went into all of the Holocaust museums so that we 293 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: could say never again post October seventh, that became quite 294 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: clear that a bunch of people had seen those museums 295 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: and they didn't care. 296 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: Right, Not only did that care, they saw that as 297 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: like either a blueprint or something that they had to deny. 298 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: They had to say that this never happened in order 299 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: for them to have the views that they have. I 300 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: just again, if you're in a bar and that's the 301 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: sign you pick, I don't want to say you're beyond help. 302 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: Because it sounded like their parents were mortified, and I 303 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: hope that I hope so, I hope this isn't something 304 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: that they grew up with in their homes. I hope 305 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: that this is just something stupid that they did drunkenly 306 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: one night. But I just I've been drunk, I've been stupid. 307 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: I just this. 308 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: I've never been like, you know, what we should put 309 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: on the sign, like you know, I'd put like Jimmy's 310 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: an asshole. I wouldn't put, you know, Like, I just 311 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: I just cannot give them the kind of leeway that 312 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to give them. And of course when I 313 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: tweet about this, I get a lot of like, well, 314 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: this is why people hate Jews, Like I don't think 315 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: that this is why people hate Jews. Actually, because we 316 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: have refused. 317 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: To just like, because you're mad at the f the jewice. 318 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm not sure that's it. I don't 319 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: know that that's really it. 320 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: And so. 321 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope Dave Portnoy changes his mind on that. Again, 322 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: you don't need to destroy these people alive. You want 323 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: to have conversations with them. 324 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: Do it. 325 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: But a free trip to Europe to see our weakest 326 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: point too, you know, I just don't get it. 327 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and also just Harvard and Columbia, take a 328 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: look at what it looks like when someone's upset about 329 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: anti Semitism on the institution that they started. Exactly, that's 330 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: what it looks like when somebody is ticked off, right. 331 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: Dana White actually was very good on it. Also, there 332 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: was an MMA fighter that did a podcast denying the 333 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: Holocaust and it was like his first episode of the podcast, 334 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: and Dana White went on this like rip of him, 335 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: and he said, I'm not going to take away his 336 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: right to speak and say what he wants. I'm not 337 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: going to fire him, but I just want to say 338 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: he's a moron and it has been hitting the head too often. 339 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: But he was mad, he was angry that this guy 340 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: was getting to use his business to kind of promote 341 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: himself in order to say this kind of stupid stuff. 342 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: That fighter also got knocked out, and Dave Portnoy was 343 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: at that knockout with an Israeli flag wearing a yamaka 344 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: I believe to wait in the crowd. So yeah again, 345 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: Colombia and Harvard, maybe take a look at yeah, look 346 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: at at the Portnoy and Dana White pr I don't 347 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: know if they're going to look there, but there's a 348 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: lot more clarity than they have. 349 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, We're going to take a short break and 350 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: come right back with normally our last topic today, Running 351 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: is a privileged to marry Catherine. 352 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: So this is this is one of these like influencer 353 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: micro controversies, but it says a lot about where we are. 354 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: So there's a running influencer and I believe her name 355 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: is Kate Max. I'm not sure exactly how you. 356 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, KZ, I hear you miss Max on the Z ending. 357 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: I understand I did not. 358 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: I did not follow her before I do now. And 359 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: here's why this is the cut reporting on this. By 360 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: the way, just so you can understand where the tone 361 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: is coming from. It says in times like these what's 362 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: so wrong with doing a little puff piece about the 363 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: White House and it's press secretary a lot? Actually, that's 364 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: what running influencer Kate Max found out this week when 365 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: she posted a video in which she gleefully interviewed the 366 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: mouthpiece of the Trump administration, Caroline Levitt. Turns out that's 367 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: not really the content her followers wanted to see. Jog 368 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: along with me while I answer your questions about this 369 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: whole ordeal. Okay, we'll play just the beginning of this 370 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: little influencer vid where she just does. She tapes herself, 371 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: she tapes Caroline, and generally she goes running with each 372 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: person she does this with, whether it's the guy who 373 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: played I think she's done with Patrick Swarzenegger recently. She's 374 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: done one with Tim Wallas in the past. We will 375 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: get to that. But here she is just getting an 376 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: insure to Caroline Lovett and then doing a walkthrough of 377 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: the White House. Hey, how many miles are you running today? 378 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: No miles, because we're at the beautiful White House. But 379 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: why don't I give you a tour? 380 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 381 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: My name is Caroline Lovett. I am from New Hampshire 382 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: and I am the White House Press secretary, and this 383 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 3: is the beautiful White House. We're currently walking on what 384 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: we call Pebble Beach. This is where all of the 385 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: press hang out. Guys, we have to stop for a 386 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: second and look at this. 387 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 4: I can't believe you get to wake up and be here. 388 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: Every single day. 389 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: And is this a dream come true for you? 390 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: It is a dream come true. The White House is 391 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: so beautiful, especially this time of year. So that's where 392 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: President Trump and the first family live. 393 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: So she goes, she's our a tour of the press room, 394 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Okay, My only complaint about this video 395 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: is that they should they just should have run for 396 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: the video because Caroline is an athlete and that's the 397 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: format that she generally follows. But I get it, it's 398 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: the White House. The objection, of course, is that nothing 399 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: can be done around the White House. Well Donald Trump 400 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: is in office. That is not explicitly made to tear down 401 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Right, we cannot normalize Caroline Levitt by chatting 402 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: with her as she gives you a tour of the 403 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: White House. And Kate is very clearly acting as if, oh, 404 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: this is cool. I'm at the White. 405 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: House because it is cool. 406 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: That's how normal people react. And a lot of the 407 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: Internet was upset by this, so they went after I 408 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: followed her because I'm like, girl, you didn't do anything wrong, 409 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Like everybody needs to calm down. And of course, if 410 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: this had been a democratic press secretary spouting whatever her 411 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: boss wants her to spout, no problem, the Internet would 412 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: have been fine with it. The silliest response, which also 413 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: went viral, is from Hope Waltz, who is Tim Waltz's daughter, 414 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: and she objects to this content because it's on the 415 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: same page as a pinned video of her dad running 416 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: with Kate. So here here's a little bit about the 417 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: sport of running as conceptualized by the Walls family. 418 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: Running as an act is political. And you know who 419 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 4: taught me that, Tim Walls. The first thing he told 420 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 4: me when I was first getting into it in high school. Granted, 421 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: I don't really do it as much anymore. I go 422 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: in spurts, but when I was first getting into it 423 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: in high school, the first thing he told me was 424 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: that running is a privilege, and being a part of 425 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: the running community is a privilege that not all people 426 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: have access to. Whether you do it recreationally or you 427 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: race a lot or you are, you know, at the 428 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: elite level, it is a privilege, whether it be you 429 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: just having the time to run, access to funds to 430 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: buy the gear, access to you know, healthy quality foods 431 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: that fuel you as your training and as you're running, 432 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 4: access to you know, a safe, stable situation that allows 433 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: you to be in a good mental state to be 434 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: able to run. All of those things are hard to 435 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: come by, and if you have them and are a 436 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: part of the running community, that is a privilege. And 437 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: that again was the first thing he taught me. I 438 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: don't really understand our platforms. 439 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: She goes on, and we're going to listen to more 440 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: of this, but can I just interject with a couple 441 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: of things. The first thing he taught you about running, 442 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: like not not hydrate, tell a friend you're running route, 443 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: stretch your quads, like none of those things. The first 444 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: thing was this is a political act. Second gear for 445 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: running shoes and actually not even shoes. Sometimes some of 446 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: the best long distance runners come from developing countries where 447 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: they run barefoot, because there is a theory that that 448 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: is in fact the best way to a long distance run. 449 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: So there's that we can take gear of the off 450 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: the table. Healthy food the trashiest possible food is the 451 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: best food for fueling when you are running. When you 452 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: are running a marathon, you get to eat Reese's pea 453 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: butter cups while you're running the marathon. 454 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Man, you should, I should do that, just trash. 455 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: Because it's just quick carbs. That's all you need, right okay, 456 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: And then of course safety to run. This is so 457 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: silly and overwrought, and we're gonna let her go on 458 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: because it gets dumber. 459 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 4: Platforming and administration that cuts mental health services, cuts you 460 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: know funding and literal shipments to food banks, is entirely 461 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: hurting the climate. Because you can get into running in 462 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: the climate. That's a whole nother thing. But it's cutting 463 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 4: you know, funds to climate initiatives and actively hurting the 464 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: planet in that way, sending people away without due process, villainizing, 465 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 4: villainizing minorities, all of those things are preventing people from 466 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 4: getting into the running community, which is what I thought 467 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: Kate's platform was for. But it's also just damaging to 468 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: society as a whole. We should not be normalizing these people. 469 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm not going to tell anyone what to do with 470 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 4: their pay, but I think it's insulting to my dad 471 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 4: to leave a certain video pinned, especially when he stands for, 472 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: quite literally the opposite of what this is administration is doing. 473 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: You don't get to both sides this, it's not both sides. 474 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: We are quite literally talking about good versus evil here, 475 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 4: and I'm just really disappointed the whole thing happened. I 476 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 4: was there when that video with my dad was filmed, 477 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 4: and I was very impressed with Kate, and this is 478 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: just extremely disappointing, insane. 479 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't say this a lot, actually insane, but this 480 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: is why you lost. This is why you lost. You 481 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: do this to people, and this is why people don't 482 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: want to be associated with the Democrats right now. It 483 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: is a toxic brand because of this kind of stuff. 484 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: Cancel Culture, for example, was always largely a left on 485 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: left phenomenon. So it's not enough that Kate had a 486 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: video with Tim Walls as she pinned to the top 487 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: of her page. She also has to walk the line 488 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: and do exactly as they say after Tim Walls is 489 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: no longer running after that's already over. And the reason 490 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: that Hope Walls feels so comfortable targeting Kate Max, I 491 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: think is because it is the way to get somebody 492 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: who is sensibly on the left herself, Kate Matts, I 493 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: assume is a liberal. She wants to get her back 494 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: in line and say you're not allowed to do this, 495 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: we don't do this, And she gives this insane list 496 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: of reasons why that ends up, including you know, immigration 497 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: and climate change and who knows, and ties it back 498 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: to running, like that's a real thing. 499 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: It's just not. It's just not. And I would argue 500 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: that to the extent anyone is preventing people from getting 501 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: into the running community, it's people who talk like this, yeah, 502 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: who convince people that getting into that community would be 503 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: scary and weird and bad because you seem weird. I 504 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: don't you Imagining that there's these giant barriers to going 505 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: on a run and telling people that it's super hard 506 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: because of the climate is not encouraging tell people to run. 507 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: She's also discouraged. 508 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I also enjoyed. You've been thoroughly discouraged. You can 509 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: put it on her. I also enjoy that she's not 510 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: going to tell anyone what to do with their page, 511 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: except that she is exactly telling someone what to do 512 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: with her page. And then finally, the pathetic appeal to authority, 513 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: which is proximity to her dad while he filmed an 514 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: influencer video when he was running his failed campaign for 515 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: vice president. I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed. 516 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, people are just weird, I know. 517 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: And then the part where she's like, I was really 518 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: impressed with Kate. Maybe there's a reason for that. Maybe 519 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: it's not just that Kate agreed with you on politics 520 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: or seemed to in the moment. Maybe it's because Kate 521 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: was worth being impressed with, and that's why she has 522 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: a huge following. 523 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: I can't think did this happen to anybody on the 524 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: opposite side? Has anybody been targeted for visiting the Biden 525 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: White I said warehouse Biden. 526 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's sort of warehouse in there for four years, 527 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: so fair enough. 528 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: The Biden White House over the last four years, I 529 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: cannot think of a single incident. And I can't imagine 530 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: what that would look like if you went to the 531 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Biden where what's wrong with me? The Biden White House? 532 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 2: Would there be outrage? Would there be people saying, how 533 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: dare you? I don't think so. 534 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: I think there might be, like there might be some complaints, 535 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: but I don't know that it is. It's a asserting 536 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: that high up. 537 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: You know, it would be Randos on Twitter. 538 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: It wouldn't get written up in the cut, right, it 539 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be this imposed punishment that is meant. It isn't 540 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: just meant for Kate, by the way, It's meant for 541 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: whoever comes. Oh yeah, right, that's the idea behind this. 542 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: And I also just think the way that they are 543 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: the left is letting go of all of the totally 544 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: normal things now that now running's gonna be one of 545 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: them where they're like they're like ew icky running right coded? 546 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 2: Uh. 547 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: I think we discussed last week how like weightlifting and 548 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: going to the gym is becoming right coded, wearing cross necklaces. 549 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: Right. The new one today is protein. 550 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: I know, I'm just gonna say this. You're reading my mind. 551 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: I'll read the Vanity Fair headline, why are Americans so 552 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: obsessed with protein? Blame Maga from the Liver King to 553 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: the podcast Bros. To RFK Junior's Maha constituents, America's infatuation 554 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: with protein has reached a fever pitch, and it's undeniably gendered. 555 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: Good. I just I've been craving steak so I think 556 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: I've gone to maga. 557 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: Protein's good for you. Yeah, protein's good for you. If 558 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: you ate a bunch of protein instead of whatever the 559 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: government told you to do with that stupid pyramid for 560 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: the last generation, you'd be in better health. And this 561 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: is the thing that kills me about all the journalists, 562 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: is like they have a chance to do something interesting. 563 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: When she says it's gendered, what she means is that 564 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: eating protein is manisphere coded. That's not the interesting story. 565 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: The interesting story is that women are finally getting the 566 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: message that rice cakes are not the best yes for them. 567 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: Totally. 568 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: It's interesting that a bunch of women in their forties 569 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: are actually protein loading, Like that's the interesting, counterintuitive trend. 570 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: But she can't see that, because the only reason you 571 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: can write about crosses or weightlifting or protein is when 572 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: you can pathologize it as a righty thing. 573 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: And fit it into your preconceived ideas about the world. 574 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: It's so dull, it's so weird. Just be normal. 575 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh anyway, kay, Max, give her a follow if you. 576 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a big runner anymore, but you know, I 577 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: appreciate the. 578 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Effort, So yeah, I appreciate lifting. 579 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Now because IgA anyway. 580 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: Well, Thanks for joining on sun Normally normally airs Tuesdays 581 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: and Thursdays, and you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. 582 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: Get in touch with us at normallythepod at gmail dot com. 583 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and then things get weird. Act normally