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Speaker 3: See you? Sad? Sad things are? Things are moving way

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Speaker 3: too fast. They are.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to rush it. But thanks right now.

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Speaker 2: Are quite lovely here another great weather day here in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: But there are there are may not be clouds in

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Speaker 2: the sky, but there is a cloud right now. I

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Speaker 2: would say over all of us, all of us who

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Speaker 2: love Jim Donovan, all of us who've gotten the chance

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Speaker 2: gotten the chance, who ever listened to him, you know

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Speaker 2: that Jim Donovan is a part of your family. He's

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Speaker 2: a part of your life. He's a part of your upbringing,

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Speaker 2: as it were. He's a part of some of the

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Speaker 2: part of some of the worst sports memories that you've

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Speaker 2: ever had, unfortunately, and hopefully some better ones are still

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Speaker 2: to come. And everybody, if you haven't heard the news yet,

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Speaker 2: I will allow Jim Donovan himself to share with you

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Speaker 2: give you an update on his health. Here's from his

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Speaker 2: message to you the fans, courtesy of WKYC.

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Speaker 4: Hay Good evening, Everybody, Welcome in. This is the Wednesday

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Speaker 4: edition of front Row. I'm Jim Donovan.

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Speaker 5: And yes there is a story to the new.

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Speaker 4: Look and hairstyle that I am sporting here tonight, and

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Speaker 4: I think tonight we're going to take a couple of

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Speaker 4: behind the look.

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Speaker 5: So we'll start this way.

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Speaker 4: It was about a year and a half ago that

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Speaker 4: I noticed that something was a miss with my health.

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Speaker 4: And if you've known me, and if you followed me

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Speaker 5: With leukemia, to the point where.

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Speaker 4: I had a bone marrow transplant about eleven and a

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Speaker 4: half years ago. Well, my concerns were confirmed and by

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Speaker 4: had had a relapse of leukemia, the disease had come back.

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Speaker 4: So for the last year and a half I have

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Speaker 4: been getting treatment for that with various forms of chemotherapy,

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Speaker 4: and things have changed for me in my case, and

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Speaker 4: so we're gonna have to go with a different treatment plan,

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Speaker 4: more aggressive treatment plan, which has already started, and I'm

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Speaker 5: So I'm underway with that.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be kind of a long and

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Speaker 5: I know the deal.

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Speaker 4: I've done it before and I plan to do it

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Speaker 4: They have done an amazing job for many, many years

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Speaker 4: Know this that I have always had you in my thoughts,

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Speaker 2: And that's Jim Donovan relaying the news that his leukemia

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Speaker 2: for people who you know, some of us have just

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Speaker 2: And so a lot of thoughts, prayers, everybody is wishing

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Speaker 2: And we know that he's going to beat this. We

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Speaker 2: For Jim Donovan, who, like I said, you guys get

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Speaker 3: I know. He said it like it was a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He'll be a practice next week, He'll be at mini

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Speaker 2: Well. What I love about Jim Swartz is a couple

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Speaker 3: Him and Bubba. Here's what we're doing. Good luck, good luck.

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Speaker 5: Are things coming on with this defense?

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Speaker 6: It's too soon to tell.

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Speaker 7: That's the number one thing. You need to be physical,

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Speaker 6: You guys will get tired of my baseball analogies.

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Speaker 7: Well, you can't, you can't, you can't less you're knowing Ryan,

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Speaker 7: That's part of what training camp's gonna be for us

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Speaker 7: I think that we do have some flexibility there, particularly

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Speaker 6: Than than they've done in the past.

439
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Speaker 7: But it's all about just creating good matchups and finding

440
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 7: out what the guys can do the best. We're we're

441
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 7: going in with an open mind. We're not making any determinations.

442
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 7: May what is it May thirtieth, May thirty from thirty first, Yeah,

443
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 7: we don't have we don't have a game this week.

444
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 9: How much does the addition of Ziderius elevate or at

445
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Speaker 9: least in your mind change, maybe the prospects of how

446
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 9: you approach and feel like you're gonna be able to

447
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 9: do what you really want to do up front?

448
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 7: Uh, I mean He's a good addition. I mean, it's

449
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 7: not gonna it. We're we're still gonna do what we do.

450
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 7: But he is a good addition to add in. Like

451
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 7: I said, he's got some flexibility. He can play right,

452
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 7: he can play left. He's had a lot of success

453
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 7: in this league. He brings great lead veteran leadership to us.

454
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 7: You know, there's there's plenty of plenty of positives right there.

455
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 7: But you know, I again, I just I just go

456
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 7: back to that, to that multi dimensional ability. You know,

457
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 7: you can move guys around. I mean, I mean, I

458
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 7: won't keep any secrets. You know, you'll probably see five

459
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 7: guys in the past rush a lot of times.

460
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 6: We probably have five of them out there.

461
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 7: We'll drop a guy occasionally, but you know, we'll we'll,

462
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 7: we'll d we'll play some down five stuff, And that

463
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 7: all goes back to the corners that we have. And

464
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 7: it's hard to play five down if your corners aren't

465
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 7: any good. But we got good corners and we're gonna

466
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 7: rely on those guys too, So it's all part of

467
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 7: the past.

468
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 3: Rusher.

469
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Speaker 10: Any interactions with Garrett during his absence and how do

470
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Speaker 10: you feel about his absence?

471
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Speaker 7: Oh h, the those those questions aren't for me. You know, Well,

472
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 7: we'll keep conversations between players to where they belong, between

473
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Speaker 7: coach and a player, and you know he'll be here

474
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 7: and he'll be ready when the time comes.

475
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Speaker 11: When you talk when bench of corners, do you like

476
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Speaker 11: to have one guy as you're nickel or you believe

477
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Speaker 11: in rotating guys in that stuff?

478
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 6: You mean rotating like in a game like the D line. Yeah, cool, No, no,

479
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 6: it's yeah.

480
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 7: It's probably not gonna be rotating guys within a game.

481
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 7: But what you might see, depending on the matchup, you

482
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 7: might see different players playing nickel at different in different games.

483
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 7: You know, and and you know, a bigger guy that's

484
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 7: you know that that that you know plays more physical.

485
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 7: We might have one guy in there, small shifty, quick guy.

486
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 7: We might have somebody else in there. There's the way

487
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 7: we play our coverage. There's a lot of carryover between

488
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 7: corner and nickel.

489
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 6: It's not its own specific position.

490
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 7: So I think it'll make us compartmentalize and be able

491
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 7: to move guys around a little bit more just to

492
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Speaker 7: to play some matchups.

493
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Speaker 8: That probably you know, maybe a little bit you're.

494
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 12: Excited about what was gonna be.

495
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 3: This year where he is, you know, just having to

496
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Speaker 3: play the concern.

497
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 7: My interactions with Greg have been awesome. He's been he's

498
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 7: been willing to do whatever we've asked. But the happiness

499
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 7: of players is not my concern, you know that, And

500
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 7: that's not gonna be the determining factor of of how

501
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 7: we play guys or anything else. We're gonna do what's

502
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 7: best for our team. We're gonna play guys in the

503
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 7: best matchups, and our job as coaches is to cook

504
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 7: guys in positions that they can succeed. But you know,

505
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 7: don't wanna make that sound like a negative on Greg,

506
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 7: because he's been he's been outstanding. He's he's had some

507
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 7: really good reps in this stuff. He's played outside corner,

508
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 7: he's played inside corner. He's gonna be a he's gonna

509
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 7: be an important part of our defense, whether he's playing inside,

510
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 7: outside or rushing the passer.

511
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 10: When you have two corners, only on the field is

512
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 10: the second corner.

513
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 7: Right now, we don't have the depth chart right now,

514
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 7: Tom and and I've I've been preaching that to the

515
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 7: players right now. Everybody's trying to get about the same

516
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 7: number of reps. Depth charts will come as we get

517
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 7: toward the end of training camp. Uh, you guys who

518
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 7: are out there, I mean you probably saw rookies out

519
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 7: there against you know, when Deshaun Watson was a quarterback.

520
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Speaker 6: You know, we're gonna rotate.

521
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry again, We're gonna rotate on our own,

522
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 7: on our own basis, and expect guys to be able

523
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Speaker 7: to compete against whoever's out there.

524
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Speaker 6: So you know, bring the.

525
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Speaker 10: Camp a competition.

526
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna compete.

527
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Speaker 7: We're gonna chart everything we can, and you know, we're

528
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 7: gonna we're gonna play the We're gonna play the guys

529
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Speaker 7: that g that that give us the best chance to

530
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 7: win and that that fit the best in the positions

531
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 7: and everything else. But yeah, it's it's it's way too

532
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 7: early to talk about depth charts or who's who's leading

533
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 7: and stuff like that. Everybody here is is competing against

534
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 7: themselves first and foremost.

535
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 10: You know, a linebacker group is one that wasn't altered

536
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 10: much this offseason, added a players, but other than that,

537
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 10: it's pretty much guys we've seen before.

538
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 6: The confidence level.

539
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 10: And that position group must have been high not to

540
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 10: make any additions.

541
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Speaker 3: Huh.

542
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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean it's a good returning group.

543
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 7: There's a lot of different types of players there that

544
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 7: we can use a lot of different ways. Guys that

545
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 7: have a lot of experience in the league, and uh

546
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 7: they've been very well coached, you know, Tarvis and an

547
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 7: outstanding coach. You know, so all those things, you know,

548
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 7: all sort of combined to you know, to to to

549
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 7: be what you've seen.

550
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 11: How is it to have a guy like Rodney familiar

551
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 11: with you moved your scheme when you're coming to it,

552
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 11: you know your team?

553
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he could he could play a game

554
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 7: right now. We change the terminology, you know, you try

555
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 7: to roll terminology and signals over just so the people

556
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 7: you played before don't have a good grasp. So the

557
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 7: first couple of days that sort of that sort of

558
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 7: threw him for a loop, you know. But you know,

559
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 7: veteran players like that that have played the techniques, you

560
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 7: know that uh it it it comes quickly for those guys,

561
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 7: and you know there's gonna come a tome a lot

562
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 7: of times where we play three safeties on the field,

563
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 7: you know, and he's a different he's a part of that.

564
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 7: How that happens, I don't know, you know, whether it's

565
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 7: you know, Grant Delpit going down low and and playing

566
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 7: like a dying position, or Grant staying deep and a

567
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 7: guy like Rodney going down we we uh, we value

568
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 7: flexibility in those players. We value multi dimensional skills. Right now,

569
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 7: they're all playing all the positions. But again, by the

570
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 7: end the training camp will sort of get a feel

571
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 7: for where we are and you know what our best

572
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 7: matchups are.

573
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 6: Are, and you know, we'll we'll go with that.

574
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 7: But whether it's first and second down or third down,

575
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 7: the league is trending toward more wide receivers on the field,

576
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 7: more tight ends that are really wide receivers, and you

577
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 7: need people that can neutralize those guys. You need guys

578
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 7: that can cover these these tough matchup running backs, these

579
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 7: tough matchup tight ends, and you know, they can play

580
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 7: in the box, play deep, play man, you.

581
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 6: Know, And I think our safeties fit that.

582
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 10: How often we see a three safety.

583
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 7: Oh, a three safety, Well, it really just it's going

584
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 7: to depend on the game and things like that, but

585
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 7: it's definitely a package that as we get going, we

586
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 7: we don't really run it right now, but in training

587
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 7: camp you'll see a significant amount and.

588
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 6: Then how much we play.

589
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 7: It'll depend on if it's our best matchup and you

590
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 7: know who we're playing, and you know all those things.

591
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 7: But our job in training camp is to get ready

592
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 7: for all those different situations. And again, you can't play

593
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 7: three safety packages with sort of one trick ponies. Your

594
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 7: guys have to be flexible, have have some multi multi

595
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 7: dimensional skills.

596
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 8: That physicality you want.

597
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 7: Is it harder to bring out to certain guys when

598
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 7: maybe they haven't you know, playing.

599
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: In the past.

600
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 7: Well, right now, it's just it's just it's just trying

601
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 7: to get mentality and it's really now it's it's more

602
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 7: coming from meeting room things that we're preaching and individual

603
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 7: periods because like, well I'm bad, Like I'm a right

604
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 7: hander here, I don't box you out. But you know,

605
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 7: like again, like when we're we're we have specific rules

606
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 7: that we have to abide by here and we're trying

607
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 7: to keep the contact down and we're trying to work

608
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 7: with the other players and it's not a competition of

609
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 7: who can win a spot. All those things that are

610
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 7: things that defenses do, you know, And so what you

611
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 7: see in in team periods, what you see even in

612
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 7: seven or seven periods, that's not. You know, that's not

613
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 7: where we're going to develop that will develop it in

614
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 7: individual periods, and then we'll develop that through training camp

615
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 7: mentality and then just you know, the setting a standard.

616
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 7: We have some physical players and you know, we want

617
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 7: to we want to play with effort, we want to

618
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 7: be physical, and we want to have a little personality.

619
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 7: And those are the things that we're going to emphasize

620
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 7: as we go. All the good defenses at those things.

621
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 10: Last one here, when players played every preseason game.

622
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 6: Change obviously, Yeah, do.

623
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 10: You think or would you like to play your guys

624
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 10: more or less?

625
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's like I mean, and that's a long way away.

626
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 7: I'd say this, It depends, you know, and I know

627
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 7: that's a crappy answer, but it does depend. It depends

628
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 7: on you know, where we are in training camp. You know,

629
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 7: how much more do we need to see? What kind

630
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 7: of work we get against teams like the Eagles? You know,

631
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 7: sometimes you know some of the things you're looking at

632
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 7: or back of the roster stuff and you want to

633
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 7: you wanna play those guys as much as you can.

634
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 7: Sometimes you're and there's so many different agendas. I mean,

635
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 7: PEO play preseason a lot of different ways. Things obviously

636
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 7: have changed a lot over the years. I mean, the

637
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 7: off season program used to be fourteen weeks, you know,

638
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 7: and you know it's obviously a lot shorter now and

639
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 7: you adjust with the times and and we'll see.

640
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: But you know, we've we we we'll we'll have the

641
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 6: guys ready.

642
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 5: In front of the center.

643
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 7: Well, I'm just out there right now, just trying to

644
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 7: hear guys communicate and and you know, just have a

645
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 7: little presence out there and you know those things. I

646
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 7: don't know if I'll be out there all the time.

647
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 7: You know that right now, when things are new, I

648
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 7: can get my ears real close to them and I

649
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 7: can hear where the communication is and you know that

650
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 7: means that means like and you can you can feel

651
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 7: the players. It's one of the reasons as a as

652
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 7: a play caller, as a defensive coordinator, I've always liked

653
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 7: to been on the sideline because you don't calls in

654
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 7: a vacuum. You have to really feel the players. You know,

655
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 7: you say, like, you know, hey can you get that

656
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 7: guy covered? And a guy say yeah, I can get

657
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Speaker 7: him covered, and yeah I can get them covered.

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Speaker 6: It could be two different things.

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Speaker 7: And you need to be there in the in the

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Speaker 7: mix and feel the guys as much and as much

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Speaker 7: as we're trying to put in new schemes and communication

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Speaker 7: and things like that. Us as coaches, we're learning the players,

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Speaker 7: you know, and we're learning you know, their different personalities,

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Speaker 7: and we're learning where they're going to need to be

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Speaker 7: pushed and you.

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Speaker 6: Know where we where you know where you.

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Speaker 7: Know things are gonna things are going to fall. So

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Speaker 7: it's a learning experience for us too. And I like

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Speaker 7: to be out there just in the mix. And I

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Speaker 7: think there's a lot of good information out there.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Brown's defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. Gibbe and

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Speaker 2: I will react to a lot of the stuff in

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Speaker 2: there because there's some very good stuff there from Jim Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: Letters are kind of a little cutoff. So but I did.

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe it was an afternoon tr moving on

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Speaker 2: moving Jim Schwartz impressive. I love listening to him. So

693
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Speaker 2: five down, what does that mean we're gonna rush? Think

694
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Speaker 2: about what the Eagles did. They would have five down

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Speaker 2: linemen to them on the outside, three kind of across

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Speaker 2: the middle. It's kind of like what you think of

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Speaker 2: a three four front or that, but maybe not necessarily

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Speaker 2: with the outside two guys standing up. Maybe you can

699
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Speaker 2: have them all down, but you can rush five. You

700
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Speaker 2: can rush four and then drop somebody and they don't

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Speaker 2: know who's going to be the dropper. But this is

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Speaker 2: a team. Now you think about Miles Obo and as

703
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Speaker 2: well as Zadarius Smith, Miles and Zadarius Obo. Miles can

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Speaker 2: be inside, Zadarius can inside. We've heard a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk about Alex right. You know, he could be kind

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Speaker 2: of a fourth end for you in those situations. But

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Speaker 2: play him on the inside so that you keep either's

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Speaker 2: Adarius and Miles outside. I think Obo will be outside

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Speaker 2: almost exclusively, and then you'll have one of the other

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Speaker 2: two on the other side somebody's standing up walking around.

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Speaker 2: There's just a lot that you can do. When you

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Speaker 2: bring five, you are going to have one on one

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Speaker 2: matchups on your line. If you can win those matchs,

714
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Speaker 2: you can force the ball to come out quickly. As

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Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz said at the beginning, you know, talking to quarterbacks,

716
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Speaker 2: the thing that gives them the most problems is pressure.

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00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: And so we've got to generate pressure. And when you

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Speaker 2: feel like you have a secondary like we do, and

719
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Speaker 2: you've got the corners that we do, your ability to

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Speaker 2: play man behind that so that you've got sticky coverage,

721
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Speaker 2: you have tight coverage, you have the ball coming out quickly,

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Speaker 2: guys near their receivers. That's how you get interceptions. That's

723
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Speaker 2: how you get your hand on the football, and that's

724
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Speaker 2: going to be the aggressive style that the Browns will play.

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Speaker 2: And he's talking about that, and I think that he's

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Speaker 2: so candid. I love that not only about what we're

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Speaker 2: going to do, but also what we are doing now.

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Speaker 2: This is me. Don't read in that. There are no

729
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Speaker 2: depth charts right now. We're not showing our three safety package. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Rodney McLeod's going to be out there a bit for us.

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Speaker 2: We've got so much versatility. Wait till training camp and

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Speaker 2: as we know, starts June twenty second.

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Speaker 3: He said that, but he also said we were kind

734
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Speaker 3: of garbage yesterday early, but we recovered and we came back,

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Speaker 3: And that goes back what I was saying earlier. You know,

736
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 3: you could hear Jim Schwartz across the practice field. Yep,

737
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 3: then you didn't, which meant that the defense was starting

738
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Speaker 3: to play a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, even continuing today, you really

740
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: saw what happens with you know, this style of defense,

741
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Speaker 2: and you saw just kind of the evolution of this offense.

742
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Speaker 2: Even today out there, Le Browns continued to their OTA program.

743
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Speaker 2: They had one today, they'll have one more tomorrow. Yeah,

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00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: they do have one tomorrow. Normally you're done on Thursday,

745
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: but yeah, this week, I think with the golf outing

746
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: being on Tuesday holiday, the holiday on Monday, everything got

747
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: bumped back a bit, and so you're gonna get those

748
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 2: those OTAs three this week and then next week will

749
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Speaker 2: be the mandatory mini camp Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. All

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Speaker 2: of those are open to the media. I will say today,

751
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson continues to throw darts. He had a phenomenal

752
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: day today. The defense, though, did make some plays. We

753
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: saw some interceptions on the back end from from some

754
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: of the young players that are fighting to make this roster,

755
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: make this football team, and so you saw that, I'd

756
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: all say, Dorian Thompson. Robinson continues to impress me. His

757
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: ability to throw the football and really kind of drive

758
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: the football has stood out to me in his accuracy.

759
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: But you know, DPJ is looking good. You know, Elijah

760
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: Moore on the very first practice of the play of

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00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: the seven on sevens today, it was touchdown, red zone drill.

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Speaker 2: I think the first four passes Watson through may have

763
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: all been touchdowns today, so they were just that offense

764
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: is really starting to click the confidence in that passing game,

765
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: and you know, then the defense would get some things

766
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: back as well as as I mentioned. But it's going

767
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: to be fun. And I think when we do get

768
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Speaker 2: to training camp, when you're seeing full eleven on eleven,

769
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: this team is going to be as talented as we've

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Speaker 2: seen it be and I think that's going to be

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Speaker 2: very apparent.

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Speaker 3: So to play off of that. It's interesting because this

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Speaker 3: is the first year with a new rule. There's not

774
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Speaker 3: going to be a cutdown day after like the first

775
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Speaker 3: two preseason games, yes, or you know, after the first

776
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Speaker 3: preseason game. There is one cutdown day, yep, and it's

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Speaker 3: the Tuesday after the final preseason game, which we play

778
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: on Saturday. I mean, you're going to have to cut

779
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: a lot of guys. There's going to be a number

780
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: of players that are in this camp right now that

781
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: are on other NFL rosters come September. Yeah. Uh, some

782
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: really tough decisions are gonna have to be made as

783
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Speaker 3: we go.

784
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Speaker 2: Through this, and for us, given the nature of the

785
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: way preseason has changed, the fact that we will be

786
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: one of two teams playing four preseason games this year

787
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: as opposed to three, which is where it's at now

788
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: for it used to be commonplace and there had been

789
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: a team that have to play five. We've got a

790
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: lot of young guys. So we've got a lot of

791
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: guys that are gonna be fighting to a make the

792
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: roster and b make the practice squad and stay in

793
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: this Cleveland Browns program. Yeah, and you're gonna get a

794
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: lot of playing time from them. You're gonna get to

795
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: see a lot of Dorian Thompson Robinson. I'm excited about that.

796
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna see a lot of Cedric Tillman.

797
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: The preseason's gonna be I mean the second the quote,

798
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: second third, fourth stringer. Yeah, an are pretty good players

799
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: on this roster, yep, yep. Actually better than pretty good,

800
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: they are really good.

801
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's a sign of a good roster, and

802
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: that's a sign of a good team and a sign

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00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: of a team that needs to be a team of consequence.

804
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: When it's all said and done. For the reason that

805
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: you just laid out, this is going to be a

806
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: very talented roster. It's gonna have an opportunity to really

807
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: go out there and compete with I think some of

808
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: what the best has this league has to offer. And

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00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: now we have got to get it done. It's very

810
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: much a prove it, prove it season, and that's why

811
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: you've got this talent here. That's why all of these days,

812
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: this building of the culture, building of the work ethic,

813
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: building of the professionalism, building, the foundations of what this

814
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: defense is going to be, what our special teams unit

815
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: is going to be under Bubba Ventrom, how this offense

816
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: is going to evolve, and boy is it evolving you

817
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: Sai'm ja Emerson's face yesterday when we asked that question

818
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: right here at the end disclosed location, that was a big,

819
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: big smile on his face. So it's gonna be a

820
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 2: lot of fun, you know, and these are the important steps.

821
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: Next week, we'll be able to have full coverage day in,

822
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: day out from Mini camp because it's all open to

823
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: the media and so you'll have all that access and

824
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: that should be a lot of fun. When we come back.

825
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna look at a column that was written at

826
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Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated taking a look at ten big name veterans. Well,

827
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Speaker 2: I won't say they're all big name veterans. There are

828
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Speaker 2: some huge names. There are some huh.

829
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Speaker 3: According to this article, it says ten NFL star veterans.

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00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: Well, we'll take umbrage with some of that, but we'll

831
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: see if any of these would make sense for the

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00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns guys who veterans who could be on the move.

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00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, we deduced one of them on

834
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Speaker 2: our own yesterday right here on this program, a little

835
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Speaker 2: bit of a teaser, so we'll have that for you

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Speaker 2: when we come back here. Wrapping up our number one

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in as we wrap up our

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Speaker 2: Battlely Bett, coming soon to Ohio. Nathan Segura, Jason Gibbs,

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Speaker 2: the Great Pope Bishop down at the Memorial Tournament in Columbus.

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Speaker 2: Round one action. I was trying to I was hoping

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00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: we were going to get a little bit of that

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Speaker 2: on the on the old tube, but so far we

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Speaker 2: have not, but we'll give you a quick We will, however,

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Speaker 2: give you a quick check in with the leaders down

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Speaker 2: there from the Memorial at Jack's Place down in Columbus, Or.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I said it was on ESPN Plus right now. The

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Speaker 2: leader is m Wallace at four under Matt Wallace, four

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Speaker 2: under Mark Hubbard, four under Danny Willett, who former Major champion,

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Speaker 2: three under Shane Lowry, three under some of the other notables.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't John Rahm at two under Adam Scott, two

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Speaker 2: under Luked hedc metsia'ma also at two in the group

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Speaker 2: at two under Colin Morrikowa is one under shot at

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Speaker 2: seventy one today. A lot of these people are in.

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Speaker 2: Hubbard is four under. He's on seventeen. Uh rom is

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00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: in with that, seventy, as is Scott and Sung JM.

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00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: So that's your leader board right there. Ricky Fowler even

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Speaker 2: seventy two. Rory one under today as well for the

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Speaker 2: Memorial Tournament getting start, it's got to be a magical day.

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Speaker 2: Seventy seven degrees down there. I mean it is perfect

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Speaker 2: win It's six miles an hour, so no wind. I

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Speaker 2: mean it must be just absolutely perfect. Last year Billy

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Speaker 2: Horssechell won it twenty million dollar prize par seventy two

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Speaker 2: seventy five hundred and seventy one yards. Jeez, Louise, they

871
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: are quite quite good, are the Are these guys a

872
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: little bit?

873
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: They're quite good at golf?

874
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, give a thing or not a little

875
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: thinger or not a thing.

876
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: Let's go ten NFL star veterans who could still switch

877
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: teams this offse justin give us a little traveling music

878
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: underneath this. Matt Verte aim vertaime yep like it sports illustrated,

879
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: no idea. Uh. The NFL is entering the so called

880
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: dead period of the off season. With OTA is close

881
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: to wrapping up. The league will be quiet. While the

882
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 3: thirty two rosters are largely set, there's still a chance

883
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: we see some significant movement of star veterans. Looking around

884
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: the league. There are a select few who makes sense

885
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 3: as either cut or trade candidates. Thing are not a thing,

886
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: not necessarily for the Browns, but that they that they

887
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: could be.

888
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to say for the Browns as well. Oh,

889
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: we'll do it, we'll do it.

890
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: We'll give you both, all right, Fine, we'll start with

891
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 3: the within our own division. The Baltimore Ravens linebacker Patrick Queen.

892
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: I think it is a thing that he could be moved.

893
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: He's in the last year of his deal, but they

894
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: also can just let him walk at the end of

895
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: the season. They drafted his replacement. I don't remember the

896
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 2: name of the kid, but out of I think Clemson.

897
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: It was a linebacker out of Clemson. So he won't

898
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: be a Raven in twenty twenty four. And they have

899
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Roke Ones with right so he won't be a Raven

900
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, but could still be a Raven

901
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. And he is not somebody that

902
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: I would see the Browns trading for.

903
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: Let's start. Uh, Let's go to the AFC East, I

904
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: should say, uh, Gabrielle Davis Bills wide receiver. Again, the

905
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: star portion of the article would lead.

906
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: You, but we're you gonna get there.

907
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: Stars, there are so sure about that one.

908
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis was a fantasy darling going into the league

909
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: last year and games had some pretty good games.

910
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: He did.

911
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: He had some very good games, but ultimately the season

912
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: wasn't quite up to what you thought. Eight hundred and

913
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: thirty six yards, seven touchdowns, averaged seventeen point four yards

914
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: per catch. He is six two two ten. He is

915
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: in the last year of his rookie deal, So certainly

916
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: you would expect that he will command quite a bit

917
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: on the open market next year for a guy who's

918
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: for his career twenty touchdowns in three NFL seasons, averages

919
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: seventeen yards a catch. Last year was a career high

920
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: in receptions and in yards for him. I don't see

921
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: why they would move him. It doesn't make any sense

922
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: to me that they would be moving on from Gabe Davis.

923
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: So I don't think that is a thing. Look, weapons Galore.

924
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: Could the Browns be interested? You have a star corps,

925
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: but you're in Buffalo, and I think adding DeAndre Hopkins

926
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 2: is a nice ad to Gabe Davis and Stefan Dix.

927
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't see them. No, I don't see them moving

928
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: on from him. He's been a great value, a fourth

929
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: round pick. You get one more year out of him,

930
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: he's gonna leave. You'll get a compensatory pick for it

931
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: if they decide that they cannot afford him. But no,

932
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: I do not see Gabe Davis being moved this year.

933
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: Interesting from a salary cap standpoint for Buffalo. We talked

934
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: about it, yeah, last week, like this is kind of

935
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: a make or break year for them. I mean, yep,

936
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: after this season, nine players next year who have cap

937
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: hits of at least ten million dollars.

938
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: Geez yep. Up next within the division, the Cincinnati Bengals

939
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: and running back Joe Mixon thing were not a thing

940
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 3: that he could be moved.

941
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: I think it very much is a thing that he

942
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: could moved. He could be even released now if he

943
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: did take a salary reduction, which we have not heard. Ultimately,

944
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: they will keep him. But Joe Mixon being moved would

945
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: be more about the subtraction of his contract than I

946
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: think it would be about somebody going out to a

947
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: choir Joe Mixon, so we'll see. I think that they're

948
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: a better team with him. They drafted the kid out

949
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: of Illinois whose name escapes meet right now. I'm not

950
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: Dane Brugler in terms of knowing every Chase Brown. Maybe

951
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: does that sound right? No, I don't know if that's right.

952
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get gonna be pretty pumped up. I'm gonna

953
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: look that up for a second. But it is the

954
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: running back out of Illinois. Then they drafted the fifth round,

955
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: so they've got some ringbacks, but they still need Chase Brown.

956
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: Let's go baby, Cincinnati Bengals. How about that?

957
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: Wait that? Yeah, it's interesting though, because many thought the

958
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: Bengals might release mix in, which would have saved seven

959
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: point three million. However, as a post June first cut

960
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: that number balloons to ten million, with a dead cap

961
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: figure of two point seventy five.

962
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: But they could have done it before and just as

963
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: signated him post June versus the Browns did with you

964
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: debian Clowning and John Johnson. So the Bod's about to

965
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: get eleven million dollars. We're watching people by the way,

966
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: Moe outside the undisclosed location, and the amount of pollen

967
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: that is flying around in the air outside of this

968
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: place right now is terrifying to me.

969
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie. I don't approve of how

970
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: they date that they take care of the walk.

971
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: Talk to me, break it down. You're a foremost lawn man.

972
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it's just kind of how quick can

973
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: I get it done? They spray the sidewalks. They don't

974
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: clean off the sidewalks when you're done, like take a

975
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: leaf blower. It's not difficult.

976
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: What do you feel about when the clippings just get

977
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: sprayed everywhere? As opposed to going into a bag or.

978
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: Putting them in a certain direction, like there's certain ways

979
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: to do it, and yeah, they're just like I'm just

980
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 3: going to go in a circle and just spray everywhere.

981
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: Not great. Not great for the mulch. You don't want

982
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: the dead grass. It'll kill the the the grass that's

983
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: alive underneath it. Not the grass is growing much these days.

984
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: I should know. I've got a water a quarter of

985
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 3: my yard every day because we just plan a new grass,

986
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 3: of course.

987
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, but look at the bound of poliaments in

988
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: the air given.

989
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't there twenty minutes ago. Not great.

990
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: I feel like we can be better at this.

991
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: All right, I listen. I think that's your purview too.

992
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: I think you'd be very good dishing out that kind

993
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: of advice.

994
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: Uh thing or not a thing. Jerry Judy Broncos wide

995
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: receiver trade or released.

996
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: So that one a lot of smoke to that all

997
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: off season. I still think he is somebody that could

998
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: make sense for the Cleveland Browns, even with all the

999
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: other moves that were made. If you're looking at kind

1000
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: of a long term succession planning, where he would you know,

1001
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: ultimately replace probably you know, Amari perhaps down the road

1002
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 2: as a younger player, but with Sean Payton and Russell

1003
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: Wilson there, I don't see them giving away weapons. And

1004
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why I think he wasn't traded,

1005
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: nor was Courtland Sutton. So definitely interesting. I don't see,

1006
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: but I don't necessarily Payton wants to giveaway weapons. Curer

1007
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: on a rookie deal. Still, yeah, why would you uh.

1008
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: To Kansas City?

1009
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: We go?

1010
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: Clyde Edwards Hilaire running back. I don't know why.

1011
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: He's I don't even know why he's on this list.

1012
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: He was a first round pick in his three seasons.

1013
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: I know they declined his fifth year option.

1014
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: This spring.

1015
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: He started off averaging. He ran for eight hundred yards

1016
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: and four touchdowns. As a rookie. He had two hundred

1017
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: and ninety seven yards receiving in a touchdown, so he

1018
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: had that year he had a total of eleven hundred

1019
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: total yards and five touchdowns. Then the next year. He's

1020
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: never played more than thirteen games in a season each

1021
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: of the last year's just played exactly ten games. Last

1022
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: year five hundred and seventeen yards rushing, four scores, four

1023
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: point three yards to carry, not much of a factor

1024
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: in the receiving game at all. He finishes with six

1025
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: hundred forty six total yards and six touchdowns. Last year

1026
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: in ten games, four hundred and fifty three total yards,

1027
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: six touchdowns, four point three yards to carry.

1028
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: Again, this guy feels like this guy thinks it's gonna happen.

1029
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: I could see him being out of Kansas City because

1030
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: they like, you know, what they've got in Isaiah Pichaco.

1031
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: Could Clyde Edwards Zilaire be had on the very very

1032
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: cheap to be, you know, somebody that you would bring

1033
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: in to be kind of like a third down back,

1034
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, if you're looking now we're talking from the

1035
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: Browns perspective. Maybe, But my guess is he was a

1036
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: first round pick, so I don't think his number this

1037
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: year actually would be all that cheap at all. I'm

1038
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: trying to pull it up right now. Baltimore garrows Kansas City.

1039
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: So Clyde Edwards Hilaire, on the final year of his

1040
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 2: rookie deal is making his cap number is three point four.

1041
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: If they traded him post June first, which is where

1042
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 2: we are are now, it would save them two million dollars.

1043
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 2: That would be what the team that acquired him would

1044
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: be obligated to I think would be about two million

1045
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: and eighty five thousand dollars. So I don't know that

1046
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: I necessarily see that happening would save them one point

1047
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: three They would have one point three five to seven

1048
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: and dead money. It would be, yeah, they basically paying.

1049
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: You'd pay his base salary and his workout bonus, which

1050
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: is one hundred thousand, so one point nine eight one

1051
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: point nine eight five million plus on hundred thousand, so

1052
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: basically two point eight five million. Eh. That feels like

1053
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: a high price. That's more than that's more than DeAndre Swift.

1054
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: So we've gone through half the list. We'll get to

1055
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: the other half at two thirty. But we got to break.

1056
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: Because poisons on all right, ap see good stuff here

1057
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,320
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1058
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,160
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1060
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,480
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1066
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1067
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1068
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1069
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: They actually had an area gibbet at number I think

1070
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1071
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,720
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1072
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: I knew a couple gentlemen from our organization that we're

1073
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: working at. They said it was a quite a love experience.

1074
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 3: It seemed great.

1075
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: They had a giant lawn chair, they had Twisted Tea,

1076
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: and of course I was on the job. I had

1077
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: to still come and do the after the evening portion,

1078
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: so I wasn't able to have some of their delicious

1079
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: beverage products. But it was great and I saw some

1080
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: good shots right there. We had We made a birdie

1081
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: on both of the Twisted Tea holes, so that was

1082
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: a ton of fun.

1083
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 5: Nice.

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Speaker 2: They gotta like that, all right, let's go to that

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Speaker 2: Twisted Tea hotline. Now we're bringing Brown staff writer Anthony Poisel. Ap.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, brother, I am doing just spine.

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Speaker 8: First things first, can you guys hear me okay right now?

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Speaker 8: And I'll ask why in a second.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes we can, okay.

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Speaker 8: I am at the stadium right now, obviously not in

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00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 8: the undisclosed location. And they just set up some monster

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Speaker 8: jam for this weekend.

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Speaker 3: And they just.

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Speaker 8: Rolled a few of the trucks out and it's got

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Speaker 8: a little loud at first. It happened like right before

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Speaker 8: I hop on the call here and I just oh, wow,

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Speaker 8: looks like they're turning them off now, so we should

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Speaker 8: be good. But yeah, it's fascinating. I just all of

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Speaker 8: a sudden, boom, just some big trucks just start rolling out.

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Speaker 8: They just finished up all the ill and third and

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00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 8: got cars at the fifty yard line and everything. It's

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Speaker 8: honestly insane how quickly they turned it around. I just

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Speaker 8: when the engines were running. I just wanted to make

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Speaker 8: sure there was no background always, and you guys could

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Speaker 8: hear me just fine. So it looks like we're good.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah we are. We would have been none the wiser,

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Speaker 2: but it sounds exciting and again that's happened in this

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Speaker 2: Saturday at Cleveland brown Stadium. Check it out the Monster Jam.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it earlier in the program. All right,

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00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: ap OTAs here we've got. This is the second week

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00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: of those OTAs, and then next week, obviously we get

1112
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: into the mandatory mini camp and get it done for

1113
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: the Browns. Kind of for this initial portion of the

1114
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: off season program, just kind of top level. What has

1115
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: struck you so far at the OTAs?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, first things first, I mean, it was just

1117
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 8: great to see Deshaun get to work again and start,

1118
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 8: you know, really kind of building that chemistry in Brea

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Speaker 8: with all these new wide receivers. I would say the

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Speaker 8: first thing that struck out to me this week was

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00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 8: just how much crisper things kind of looks in that

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00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 8: part of in that part of the team. You know,

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Speaker 8: I think in that first week, that last Wednesday. Of

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Speaker 8: course it's only been two practices that we've had open

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Speaker 8: that we've been able to see. But last week, you know,

1126
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 8: there was there was a few incompletions here and there,

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Speaker 8: and specifically on the deep balls. You know, I said,

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Speaker 8: I remember seeing DeShawn take a lot of deep looks

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Speaker 8: in that first practice and not all of them work

1130
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 8: were completions. And then this week, you know, he goes

1131
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 8: and hits Marquise Goodwin on two deep shots. He's he's

1132
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 8: launched it again. You know, I think it's very clear

1133
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 8: through these first two weeks of OTA's that they're really

1134
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 8: kind of emphasizing building some chemistry on those deep passes,

1135
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 8: which you know we've talked about before was something that

1136
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 8: was kind of lacking in the passing game at times

1137
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 8: last year. Now you know they've got two great weapons

1138
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Speaker 8: who can help them with that. Obviously it's Elijah Moore

1139
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 8: and Goodwin who looks phenomenal yesterday and probably was the

1140
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Speaker 8: player of the day. So but all in all, I

1141
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 8: mean it's just really good to see Deshaun, you know,

1142
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 8: building that chemistry and and better this week is seeing

1143
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 8: that chemistry really kind of take off. I mean, things

1144
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: just really looked a lot Chris Berry was completing more passes.

1145
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 8: Things just looked a lot more smoothly. And of course

1146
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 8: it's still OTAs it wouldn't have been a big deal

1147
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 8: if things, you know, we're not always consistent. It's it's

1148
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 8: very early in the spring practice is still but just

1149
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 8: the fact that we're already seeing a little bit of

1150
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 8: improvement there and that you know he's he's connecting on

1151
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 8: some of these big plays, I think is a really

1152
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 8: really encouraging sign. And then you know, just defensively, you

1153
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 8: just see how Jim Schwartz is going to change things

1154
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 8: on that side of the ball. You know, things look

1155
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 8: a little different up front with the dressers. They're lining

1156
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Speaker 8: up a little bit further on the outside of the

1157
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Speaker 8: line of scrimmage. But I think the thing that I

1158
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 8: like seeing most is just seeing Schwartz kind of crouched

1159
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Speaker 8: down right in front of everybody at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 8: You know, he said he wants to do that because

1161
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Speaker 8: he wants to hear guys communicating. He literally just wants

1162
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Speaker 8: to be right there. He wants to see how they

1163
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Speaker 8: develop when the play develops. And I really like that

1164
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 8: because you know, as we know, last year, the communication

1165
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 8: didn't seem like it was great at times on that

1166
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 8: side of the ball. And now GAM's coming in and

1167
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 8: he is, you know, solidifying, making sure that that is

1168
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 8: something that is not going to be a problem at

1169
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Speaker 8: all this year. He wants to hear his guys yelling

1170
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Speaker 8: during the play before the play, making sure they're in

1171
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Speaker 8: the right spots, covering guys quickly, particularly you know, his

1172
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 8: linebackers when they need to drop in coverage and everything,

1173
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Speaker 8: and so I really like seeing that. It's it's it's

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Speaker 8: something I think this defense needed. It's what I think

1175
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 8: everybody expected Jim Schwartz to come in and do, and

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Speaker 8: so far through a couple of practices, it looks like

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Speaker 8: he's doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun to see. Let's go back to the

1179
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: offense talked about to Sean hit a couple of those

1180
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: deep balls to Marquise Goodwin. And then the play of

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00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: the day that I thought was and Alex Van Pelton

1182
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Speaker 2: has post practice presser said, you know it gave him goosebumps,

1183
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: was the route by Elijah Moore where he stuttered, faked

1184
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Speaker 2: like he was going to the outside and then broke

1185
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Speaker 2: to the inside and the second he turned his head around,

1186
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Speaker 2: the ball was thrown on an absolute line right over

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Speaker 2: the linebacker trying to undercut it right to Elijah Moore

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Speaker 2: for a touchdown in the red zone. I mean, that

1189
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Speaker 2: was everything about that was pure electricity, with pure joy

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Speaker 2: and just feels like it is going to be very

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Speaker 2: difficult to stop. I thought that was awesome to see,

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Speaker 2: and I think you know, you wanted to see. We've

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Speaker 2: heard so much about you know, four to eight four eight. Well,

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 2: now that you're getting to see it, it's it looks

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Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, and that those are the kind of plays

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Speaker 8: that I think you rightfully can get excited about a

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Speaker 8: O team because obviously the setting here is a lot different.

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Speaker 8: There's you know, guys aren't wearing pads. Sometimes play intensity

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Speaker 8: is a little bit settled down. But when you can see,

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Speaker 8: you know, a new guy like Elijah come in and

1202
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Speaker 8: have have you know, Watson throw the ball in before

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Speaker 8: and after the ball is out of his hands, Elijah's

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Speaker 8: finally turning his head and is still able to make

1205
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 8: that catch. I mean that's that is a sign of

1206
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 8: chemistry really coming along really well, really quickly for those

1207
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Speaker 8: two guys. And then obviously, the thing about Elijah two

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Speaker 8: that's been encouraging to see is just how much they're

1209
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 8: lining him up across the line of scrimmage. I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, through the two practices, pretty sure we've seen

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Speaker 8: him line up in just about every single receiver spot.

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Speaker 8: We've seen him go in motion at times like it

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Speaker 8: really feels like he's going to be a very versatile

1214
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Speaker 8: player in a big time player in this offense, which

1215
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 8: in surprising. That's why they traded the second round pick

1216
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 8: for him, just to see that things are coming along

1217
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 8: so nicely in these first two weeks of OTAs between

1218
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Speaker 8: him and Tim DeShawn is really I mean, that's that's

1219
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 8: really all you can kind of ask for for the

1220
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 8: for the passing game these first two weeks with just

1221
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Speaker 8: the way the tempo is and what you can sort

1222
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 8: of expect, you know, just the fact that you know

1223
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 8: more and Watson seem to have such a great connection

1224
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 8: here through the two open practices we've seen so far,

1225
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Speaker 8: really really good sign for how things could go, you know,

1226
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 8: when training camp bowls around, and obviously when the season.

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Speaker 2: Rolls around, it is exciting. Then you mentioned flipping around

1228
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: over on that defensive side of the ball. I thought

1229
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Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz's press conference yesterday ap was was masterful and

1230
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Speaker 2: that he's so direct, he's such a good orator and

1231
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: and frankly he said, look, we are going to play

1232
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Speaker 2: five down. We're going to get after the quarterback and

1233
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Speaker 2: we believe we have the corners on the back end

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Speaker 2: to handle it. And I love that. That got me excited.

1235
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Speaker 2: I just think he's got he's just got such a

1236
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: command in those situations and clearly has a command on

1237
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: the field as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1239
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's definitely a no nonsense approach with Jim Schwartz.

1240
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 8: That's that's how he's been able to become such a great,

1241
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 8: well respected coach in this league. For the last two

1242
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 8: decades or three decades now, I think it's been and

1243
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 8: and and it's really what this defense needs. You know,

1244
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 8: there's a lot of veterans, there's also a lot of

1245
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 8: young guys. But he's a coach that I think everybody sees,

1246
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 8: you know, when he first got here, everybody saw his resume,

1247
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 8: what he's done, and they're like, you know, there's no

1248
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 8: doubt that he knows how to build a good defense.

1249
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 8: And the thing too, is it's not you know, it's

1250
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 8: not intricate or anything. It's it's really everybody's saying, all

1251
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 8: your players are saying that. It's it's a real simplified approach,

1252
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 8: like defensive line. It's not like, you know, you gotta

1253
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 8: worry about plugging a tonic gaps or like different coverages

1254
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 8: or anything like that.

1255
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Speaker 13: Like it's just.

1256
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Speaker 8: Find the guy who has the ball, find a way

1257
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 8: to get around your blocker and go get them. And

1258
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 8: I think that's a fun way for I mean, that's

1259
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 8: what Sadarius said he liked about the defense when he

1260
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 8: had his media availability last week after he was traded here.

1261
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Speaker 8: And and I'm sure that's what Miles is gonna like too,

1262
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 8: and and all the you know, defensive lineman. That's a

1263
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 8: very easy way to go about the game. And if

1264
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 8: you're somebody who has the power and the strength and

1265
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 8: the talent to get around blockers consistently, they're gonna be

1266
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 8: very successful in a Jim Schwartz defense. And you know,

1267
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 8: of course with the linebackers and secondary, it's it's pretty

1268
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 8: simple too. The linebackers are gonna get you know, in

1269
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 8: a scheme like that, the linebackers are the ones who

1270
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 8: are gonna just kind of clean things up in the middle.

1271
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 8: And then secondary, you know, it's it's guys are gonna

1272
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 8: have to play versatile roles. But when the defensive line

1273
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 8: is gonna be able to eat and get after the quarterback,

1274
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 8: that's gonna make their jobs a lot more fun too.

1275
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 8: So I think everybody's everybody's bought into what his schemes

1276
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 8: are are going to make them do. And I mean,

1277
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 8: I'm really excited to see how things go together. You know,

1278
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 8: there's just there's so much talent on that side of

1279
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 8: the ball, and you know, then you bring in a

1280
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 8: guy like Rodney McCleod, two's Darius Smith, a few more

1281
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 8: veterans there that really should help shore things up at

1282
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 8: those positions. There's really a lot to be excited about

1283
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 8: with what Jim Schwartz is gonna bring with this defense,

1284
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 8: and I think we're seeing some of that come together

1285
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 8: through these first two practices as well.

1286
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that, AP. And then I

1287
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 2: think we saw some things that were a little bit surprising,

1288
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: and maybe not they shouldn't have been surprised, but something

1289
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: perhaps we hadn't seen before. And I'm gonna say, on

1290
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: that defensive side, Denzel Ward playing in the slot, well,

1291
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: what did he make of that? What did he say

1292
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: about that afterwards? And I think it makes a lot

1293
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: of sense for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 8: What do you think, AP, Yeah, Well, I mean give

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Speaker 8: Forth said himself when he first got here, that his

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Speaker 8: secondary guys aren't necessarily going to be penciled in as

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Speaker 8: just an outside corner or just in a slot corner,

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Speaker 8: just a nickel corner or anything like that. Like he's

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Speaker 8: gonna ask all of his guys to be ready to

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Speaker 8: play different roles. And I think, you know one thing

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Speaker 8: that stood out to me yesterday when he was talking

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Speaker 8: about that again, was just it's gonna who plays slot corner,

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Speaker 8: who plays outside. It's all gonna depend on what the

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Speaker 8: other team, what weapons the other team has. If there's

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Speaker 8: a big guy who's playing in the slot, maybe it

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Speaker 8: makes sense to put Denzel Award on him, Maybe it

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Speaker 8: makes sense to even put uh M j Emerson on him.

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Speaker 8: As you know, he's the biggest, one of the biggest

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Speaker 8: guys in the secondary, the biggest cornerback.

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Speaker 13: He wants to make.

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Speaker 8: Sure that there's not gonna be any mismatches in the secondary,

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Speaker 8: and the way you do that is by making sure

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Speaker 8: that everybody can play every single position. And so I

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Speaker 8: think it's really good. You know, I know, Greg Newsom

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Speaker 8: was the primary slot guy last year, and who knows,

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Speaker 8: maybe the season will start and he'll still be the

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Speaker 8: guy that we see frequently in the slot. But there's

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Speaker 8: no doubt about it. I mean, the fact that we're

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Speaker 8: seeing Denzel Ward already getting some slot reps there shows that,

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Speaker 8: you know, Jim Schwartz isn't lying when he says that

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Speaker 8: he's going to ask all of the guys in the

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Speaker 8: secondary to be able to play different roles no matter

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Speaker 8: where it's at.

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Speaker 3: So and I like that too.

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Speaker 8: I think that's a way you can really maximize all

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Speaker 8: the talent you have in the secondary, which I think

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Speaker 8: is one of the most kind of loaded groups on

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Speaker 8: this team. It's got great depth, guys who played well,

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Speaker 8: really well last year despite some of the other issues

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Speaker 8: that happened on the defense. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: Jim Schwartz isn't content with like, all right, you guys

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Speaker 8: can just keep doing your same thing. It's no, We're

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Speaker 8: going to try and maximize you guys even more, make

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Speaker 8: this defense better and have you play in different spots

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Speaker 8: on the field. And that's just how this defense is

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Speaker 8: going to operate. And you know we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 8: try and be a really good defense.

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Speaker 2: Because of that talk with Anthony poizl Ap the Brown

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Speaker 2: staff rider Ap, what are you all this? DeAndre Hopkins talk.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, as my personal opinion, like, I really

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Speaker 8: think it would be wise for them to at least

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Speaker 8: check in on him. He's a great receiver. Everybody knows that,

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Speaker 8: and when a great receiver hits the market, there's always

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Speaker 8: going to be a lot of teams interested, regardless of

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Speaker 8: how their wide receiver room looks.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think the challenges obviously are when it comes to

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Speaker 8: cap space and when it comes to Hopkins interest in

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Speaker 8: coming here, because right now he'll be able to pick

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Speaker 8: whatever team he wants, and so those are the two

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Speaker 8: biggest I guess hurdles that kind of need to you know,

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Speaker 8: you need to clear first before it becomes a true possibility.

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Speaker 8: But I mean, it shouldn't surprise anybody to hear what

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Speaker 8: Deshaun said of him last week. Obviously he would love

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Speaker 8: to be back with his former teammate, the back with

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Speaker 8: his former teammate who was his best receiver when he

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Speaker 8: was in Houston and was a big reason why you know,

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Speaker 8: DeShawn was able to hit the ground running as soon

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Speaker 8: as he got to Houston. So I think it would

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Speaker 8: make a lot of sense if if the guy's in

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Speaker 8: the front office stare decided to check in on it. It

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Speaker 8: would be obviously a really exciting move that would punctuate

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Speaker 8: an off season that's when full of other big moves

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Speaker 8: all across the team. And you know, a lot of

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Speaker 8: people were surprised to see Hopkins get get released when

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Speaker 8: he did, and there's gonna be a lot of teams

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Speaker 8: checking on him. I really do think the Browns should

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Speaker 8: try to make something happen if they can, but understand

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Speaker 8: that there are some some steep purtles that you probably

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Speaker 8: have to clear to make that a true distinct possibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we just heard today that DeAndre Hopkins is

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Speaker 2: interested in returning back to Houston. And when you say

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Speaker 2: to yourself, well, why would he potentially be interested in

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Speaker 2: returning back to Houston, why would that come out? Well,

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Speaker 2: when you look at teams and their available space to

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Speaker 2: spend money, We've talked about it. DeAndre Hopkins he wants

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Speaker 2: more than what Odell Beckham Junior got and the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I think it might have been a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a wild deal that they made there, and nonetheless, that's

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Speaker 2: what happened. They gave Odell, you know, the fifteen million,

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Speaker 2: and I think that changed the market. I think if

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Speaker 2: that deal doesn't happen. I think he's already a chief.

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Speaker 2: We're a bill. But the Texans have basically, you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty million dollars under the cap right now, so they

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity if they wanted to to bring in

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins at a pretty good level. Some of the

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Speaker 2: other teams with money, The Jets, I think, are a

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Speaker 2: team certainly to watch as well, if they decide they

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Speaker 2: can move on from Corey Davis, drop ten million there

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Speaker 2: and then trot him out there alongside Garrett Wilson. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it obviously it makes sense. We are going

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Speaker 2: to hear from Great co Sell actually in a little

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Speaker 2: bit on our show talking about what his skill set

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Speaker 2: is at this point, and I think Great Cosell is

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Speaker 2: one of the very best in the business in his

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Speaker 2: spot ons kind of what we've been saying here on

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. All right, ap, last one and we'll get

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Speaker 2: you out of here. What are you looking forward to

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Speaker 2: the most about the Mandatory Mini Camp.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm just I mean, the great thing about Mandatory

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Speaker 8: Mini Camp is you're going to finally see all the

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Speaker 8: players back here, you know. I'm sure we'll get to

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Speaker 8: hear from Miles at some point in media, I hope,

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Speaker 8: and that would be great to hear what he thinks

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Speaker 8: now that he's been, you know, a few months into

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Speaker 8: learning more about Jim Schwartz these new defensive schemes. You know,

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Speaker 8: we'll see him and Zadarius Smith back there again, and

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Speaker 8: you know, we'll just keep seeing more of the encouraging

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Speaker 8: things that we saw this week, obviously that being Deshaun

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Speaker 8: showing even more chemistry with his receivers, and I'm sure

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Speaker 8: you know that's going to be even more exciting to

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Speaker 8: watch when everybody uh is here. Everybody's here, there's no

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Speaker 8: there's no gaps missing. You know, you get both the

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Speaker 8: edge rushers back, and yes there's still will they still

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Speaker 8: will not be practicing in pads, but there's always just

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Speaker 8: a little more buzz when everybody's back here. It just

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Speaker 8: for those quick three days and a little more energy

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Speaker 8: in practice. I'm sure we'll learn even more about what

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Speaker 8: Jim Schwartz wants to do with this defense and how

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Speaker 8: he plans on me. Maybe we'll see other players lined

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Speaker 8: up in the spot. Maybe we'll see I don't know,

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Speaker 8: maybe we'll see Emerson play more in the slot. Maybe

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Speaker 8: we'll see wordplay even more in the spot. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's just another opportunity to learn more about what this

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Speaker 8: team is going to look like when when training camp

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Speaker 8: and when the season starts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. It'll be

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Speaker 2: a first chance to see Nick Chubb in a while,

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Speaker 2: which I think will be nice, our first to see

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Speaker 2: Miles and Zadarius lined up out there. To so see

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Speaker 2: the chief, you know, see Joel Botonio, to see a

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Speaker 2: lot of the guys that are absolute pillars of this

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Speaker 2: organization back out there, and I think that is going

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Speaker 2: to be a lot of fun. AP, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: What's what stuff that people can check out right now

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Speaker 2: at Cleveland Browns dot com or on the Browns mobile

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Speaker 2: app that you've written about. I know you had a

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Speaker 2: good one, I think. On Marquis Goodwin yesterday, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, Marquis shared a truly emotional story about just

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Speaker 8: why he wanted to, you know, maximize his other worldly

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Speaker 8: athletic abilities.

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Speaker 3: About his sister, who has cerebral palsy.

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Speaker 8: And is not able to walk. But he has a

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Speaker 8: couple very motivating stories from her and their time. When

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Speaker 8: you know, one of them from when he was with

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Speaker 8: the Bills living with her. It's truly a fascinating story

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Speaker 8: and it makes Marquise look like an outstanding guy and

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Speaker 8: somebody who's super easy to group for. So but we'll

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Speaker 8: keep having you know, all the ota work covered obviously,

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Speaker 8: Mandatory mini camp next week will be one of the

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Speaker 8: busiest times of the off season here. We'll have you

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Speaker 8: covered with every single angle on that as well. I'm

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Speaker 8: sure I'll have a mail bag coming out at some

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Speaker 8: point over the next couple of weeks too, So if

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Speaker 8: anybody has any questions about, you know, what we're seeing

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Speaker 8: out here and what it all means, please please go

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Speaker 8: to the mail bag and drop in a question. Would

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Speaker 8: love to answer what everybody wants to know.

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Speaker 2: All right, help ap out there getting that mail bag. Ape.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the time.

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Speaker 8: As always, such a good time too, glorious.

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Speaker 2: Glorious. Indeed, that was our staff rider Anthony Poisel calling

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Speaker 2: in on a Twisted Tea hotline, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea, an official sponsor of the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. In fact, when I

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Speaker 2: walked up there, that's what I said to them. When

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Speaker 2: I walked up to that area. I said, you get

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Speaker 2: a sponsor the hotline keep it Twisted Cleveland. They said,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh baby, they liked it. My oldest big fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I bet big fan of the twisted teas. Let's always

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Speaker 2: have to have some in the fridge, refreshing, especially in

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Speaker 2: a hot summer day like this. You know, even though

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Speaker 2: it's only June, first hot summer day, it's a real treat.

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Speaker 2: What are you looking forward to the most for the

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Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing some competition in the seven

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Speaker 3: on sevens yep, like kind of let's get the whole

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Speaker 3: band in here and let's see what we got. I

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Speaker 3: don't I don't really know what else, because without tackling

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Speaker 3: the whole running game thing isn't really all there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: what can you discern from that the offensive line versus

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Speaker 3: defensive line, like some one on ones there. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be very interested to see what that looks like,

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Speaker 3: especially given the acquisitions on that defensive line, uh, and

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Speaker 3: how good our offensive line is. And then just the

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Speaker 3: the one on one matchups between the whiteouts and our corners,

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Speaker 3: like really kind of mixing it up. I mean, we've

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Speaker 3: seen a little bit of it, but I think that

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Speaker 3: it'll ratchet up here next week with everybody in the building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder if we'll see Amari or if

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be. He's gonna be held out until training camp,

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Speaker 2: which is probably the more likely outcome as he comes

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Speaker 2: back from that cuntry.

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Speaker 3: So coach on Tuesday said he's gonna start doing some

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Speaker 3: stuff this week and next week. They wanted to. They

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Speaker 3: wanted him to start doing some things.

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Speaker 2: Good, let's see it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: And we're like giddy right now. We still haven't seen

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Speaker 2: Mario out there with a passing game, so that does.

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Speaker 2: And we haven't seen Chief No, and we haven't seen

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Speaker 2: Nick Chub, so we're gonna see.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna see some guys. It's just the the the

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Speaker 3: running game. It's tough. Until you put on the pads

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Speaker 3: you can tackle.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, I don't know much how much tackling.

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01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: There will be certainly none in mini camp. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: just looking at the other stuff. Yep, all right, let's

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Speaker 2: go ahead and take a break. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna hear great co sell, great friend of our

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Speaker 2: show talk on the Ross Tucker Podcast about DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 2: and the Browns. Is there a fit there? What kind

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Speaker 2: of player is DeAndre Hopkins at this point in his career.

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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker podcasts Ross and our great friend Greg Cosell

1526
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Speaker 2: breaking down the twenty twenty three Browns. They asked a question,

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Speaker 2: could DeAndre Hopkins come to Cleveland?

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Speaker 13: Take a listen, keep it moving to the Cleveland Browns

1529
01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 13: because they are very interesting. Deshaun Watson not right, No,

1530
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 13: I didn't think at the end of the year. Last

1531
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 13: year they traded and signed him to be a top

1532
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 13: five player at the quarterback position, which I think most

1533
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 13: people would agree he probably was in twenty twenty. I

1534
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 13: mean had awesome twenty twenty. I remember you and I

1535
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 13: talking about it a lot. Is there any way to

1536
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 13: guess or know or how to feel about how Watson

1537
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 13: will play this year, whether or not he can get

1538
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 13: back to that point.

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01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 12: I would think he probably would be much closer to

1540
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 12: that than what he was last year. I mean, he's

1541
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 12: a talented player. You're one hundred percent right. I mean,

1542
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 12: prior to what happened, he was in that discussion as

1543
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 12: a top five, top six, top seven NFL quarterback. You

1544
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 12: would think he'd be closer to that. You know, Offensively,

1545
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 12: they're going to have a really strong run game. Nick

1546
01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 12: Chubb is still there. They're back up now is Jerome Ford,

1547
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 12: who I think will be a good backup. A draft

1548
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 12: pick from a year ago out of the University of Cincinnati.

1549
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 6: They still have.

1550
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 12: Cooper had an excellent year. I think they're kind of

1551
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 12: counting on Donovan People's jones to sort of do more

1552
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 12: than he's done, because he's got really good trade size speed.

1553
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 12: I love the draft pick of Cedric Tillman from Tennessee

1554
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 12: in the third round. I thought, after watching his twenty

1555
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 12: twenty one tape when he was totally healthy, that he

1556
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 12: was a big time receiver prospect, and then he was

1557
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 12: hurt most of twenty twenty two, and I think that

1558
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 12: resulted in him dropping to the third round. But I think,

1559
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 12: and we know about their old lion Ross, it's one

1560
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 12: of the better ones in the league. This could be

1561
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 12: a very good offense.

1562
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 13: I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, Greg, I think

1563
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 13: the Browns are gonna sign DeAndre Hopkins.

1564
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Speaker 6: Do you really?

1565
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 13: I'll tell you why they have cap space. I think

1566
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 13: Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry, after the last couple of years,

1567
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 13: I think they realized they got to make it work.

1568
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 13: This year. They got to make it work with DeShawn Watson.

1569
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 13: They got to get back to the playoffs. Otherwise, Jimmy

1570
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 13: Haslam's not known for being patient. A third straight losing

1571
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 13: season or non playoff season, I don't know how well

1572
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 13: that would go over. And they have the cap space, obviously,

1573
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 13: I'm sure DeShawn Watson wants him. I don't love their

1574
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 13: receipt I mean, people's jones to me is more of

1575
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 13: a three than a two. They have Amari Cooper. I

1576
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 13: guess it depends Greg on what's important to DeAndre Hopkins.

1577
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 13: If he just wants to go to the team with

1578
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 13: the best anson win the Super Bowl, maybe he'd go

1579
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 13: to Kansas City, or maybe he go to Buffalo. But

1580
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 13: I think they can convince him in Cleveland that we

1581
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 13: got a shot to go really far and they can

1582
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 13: pay him a decent amount more money than those other

1583
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 13: two teams. What do you think could.

1584
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 6: Be the case?

1585
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 12: I mean, obviously, other than Cooper, you don't have a

1586
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 12: receiver that you feel really comfortable with on a weekly basis.

1587
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 12: They did trade for Elijah Moore, another player I really

1588
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 12: like coming out of college. I don't know what happened

1589
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 12: with the Jets, but I think he has a chance

1590
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 12: to be a really good slot But these are all

1591
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 12: unknowns as we speak today. Ross, So obviously DeAndre Hopkins

1592
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 12: is not an unknown.

1593
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 13: No, he absolutely is not. What about on defense now

1594
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 13: that they have Jim Schwartz in.

1595
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 12: There, Greg, Yeah, it's a little different, and I think

1596
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 12: that's why the Sadarius Smith trade was really really important,

1597
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 12: because Jim Schwartz, for the most part, wants to rush

1598
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 12: four and play coverage behind it with a lot of

1599
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 12: different looks disguise's late movement. I remember in Philly you

1600
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 12: saw a lot of inverted Cover two, invert Cover three,

1601
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 12: a lot of different looks on the back end. But

1602
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 12: the key to all that is the ability to rush

1603
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 12: for and you know they have Miles Garrett arguably the

1604
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 12: best defensive end in the league rushing the quarterback, but

1605
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 12: Sadarius Smith was really really, really important because you needed

1606
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 12: that bookend, So you know, I think that's the way

1607
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 12: he wants to play. Obviously, if you can't get to

1608
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 12: the quarterback with four, you have to then add another

1609
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 12: pass rusher because you have to impact the quarterback in

1610
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 12: this league. But I think that's the way they want

1611
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 12: to play. I thought that the signing of one Thornhill

1612
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,799
Speaker 12: at safety from the Chiefs was a really good signing.

1613
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 12: He's a very very solid player and he plays on

1614
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 12: the back end. So I think the mix of Thornhill

1615
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 12: as a back end player and delpit is kind of

1616
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,879
Speaker 12: a box player who's pretty versatile as the other safety,

1617
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 12: I think they have a really nice safety candem.

1618
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: All right, That is great co Cell talking on the podcast,

1619
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: and I think look one of the things that the

1620
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 2: Browns are banking on is they like Elijah Warrilot coming

1621
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: out of college as well, and that he can play

1622
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: a big role in early indications again with in helmets

1623
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: and shorts and not pads, is that he certainly has

1624
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: the ability to do that. You go back and look

1625
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: at those final six games of his rookie year with

1626
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 2: the Jets, and he was incredibly productive, and that's what

1627
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: the Browns are hope for. So that was there. And

1628
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: then Greg also they posted a clip that I tweeted

1629
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: out earlier today just talking about DeAndre Hopkins specifically, and

1630
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: he said, look, he's not a vertical guy. He's not

1631
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: going to create a lot of separation. But he's very

1632
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: good in the short and intermediate routes. He can catch

1633
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: the ball while he is covered. He has great catch radious,

1634
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: great hands, he's very smart at finding soft spots and zones,

1635
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: and he is excellent in the red zone. And so yes,

1636
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: he would make us better. The fact is he wants

1637
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: a ton of money to do that, and we'll see,

1638
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: we'll see. I've said all along, I thought it was

1639
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: more likely than not that he would sign elsewhere than

1640
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Browns. But the Browns will do their

1641
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: due diligence and if they can come to an agreement

1642
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: that is mutually beneficial, then then there's a chance that

1643
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 2: he would be a Cleveland.

1644
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 3: Brown I was I think they were besmirching the wide

1645
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: receiver room a little bit.

1646
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 2: I think short, you know what, and that's okay. I

1647
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: obviously we know it's well documented my affection for Donovan

1648
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 2: People's Jones and what he has done in his three years.

1649
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: He got the biggest performance bonus of any player in

1650
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: the National Football League last year, which means, based on

1651
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: his draft and contract status, he outplayed the expectations by

1652
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,799
Speaker 2: more than anybody in the NFL. And I think Donovan

1653
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 2: Peoples Jones is going to have an excellent season this year.

1654
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: He likes Cedric Tillman, He loved Elijah Moore coming out,

1655
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: great co sales, very good. Donovan Peoples Jones last year

1656
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: sixty one catches, eight hundred and thirty nine yards and

1657
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: three touchdowns for the Cleveland Browns. Fourteen yards of catch

1658
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: for his career, we just sixteen yards of catch. I

1659
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 2: think that he obviously is a very very talented young man.

1660
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,919
Speaker 2: He was the number one wide receiver recruit in the country.

1661
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: I think that he's going to continue to progress. You've

1662
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: got Amari Cooper, who was elite. He didn't really even

1663
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: mention David Ajoku. In the addition of Jordan Akens, I

1664
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: think in what those tight ends are going to mean

1665
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 2: for our passing game. Elijah Moore, Marquise Goodwin, who is

1666
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 2: a very professional vertical wide receiver who was a played

1667
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 2: a role. By the way, last year, everybody talks about

1668
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and justifiably.

1669
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 3: So oh bless you.

1670
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: But Marquis Goodwin played a nice role. You watched that

1671
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: Seahawks tape last year. Twenty seven catches, three hundred and

1672
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: eighty seven yards. He hasn't been over four hundred yards

1673
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen. But what he does is he gives

1674
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: you fifteen plus yards a catch. More often than not,

1675
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: he'll give you three to four touchdowns. Last year he

1676
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: had four, which tied with the career high. Of his

1677
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 2: twenty seven catches, eighteen went for first downs. He has

1678
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 2: had a long catch of fifty plus yards or at

1679
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: least thirty plus yards basically every year that he's been

1680
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,520
Speaker 2: in the league. He is a vertical threat. And sometimes

1681
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 2: that shows up in the numbers and the games and

1682
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: the plays that he makes, but other times that shows

1683
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: up in what he opens up for other people. And

1684
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: I think Marquis Goodwin is going to do that very

1685
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: effectively here for the Cleveland Browns. So look, it's all

1686
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: about weapons. We like what the Browns have assembled, the

1687
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 2: way they've been able to piece it together. We still

1688
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 2: haven't seen him aro out there. I think the Browns

1689
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: pass the catching corps will be much better than people think.

1690
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 2: I also think, going back to something that was said

1691
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: to us on this show by John McClain, is that

1692
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 2: Sho Watson will make your players better. And we have

1693
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: some guys with some elite traits that Deshaun Watson I

1694
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 2: think will will make better. And I think that is

1695
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: an important thing to remember, and I think that it

1696
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: will be ultimately an important thing for this football team.

1697
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: And I think people will have a very different opinion

1698
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: of our quarterback and our pass catching corps when this

1699
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 2: season's over. But it goes back to everything with this

1700
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 2: Browns team, and I liked it. We're flying under the radar.

1701
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: I am fine with that. I don't need anybody to

1702
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: be telling us oh Man you're loaded, Your receivers are loaded. Oh,

1703
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: Deshaun's all the way back. The Browns are going to

1704
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: go win the AFC North and all of that. There

1705
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: will be a time, I believe, where that will be

1706
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: the discourse and we're going to then have to back

1707
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: it up. But historically we haven't been so great with

1708
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: a lot of hype. We're better a little under the radar,

1709
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 2: and I think that's just fine with us, and you

1710
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: got to earn hype at some point. Yeah, you've got

1711
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: to back it up, and that's why the season's about

1712
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: doing it.

1713
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. We got some we have

1714
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: some guys that can contribute in that wide receiver.

1715
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: Yes, so, and we have the best running back in

1716
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. And we have a we have a league

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01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: tight end.

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01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have two very good a couple tight ends

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01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 3: now well.

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01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Aikins I think is a very underrated pass

1721
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: catcher at the tight end position, and he gives us

1722
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: the ability to run a lot of eleven personnel type

1723
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: of looks with actually having two tight ends on the field,

1724
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: and so that we have the ability, depending on how

1725
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 2: the other teams match that, to take advantage of it

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01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 2: and allow that to make us maybe even a little

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01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: more run heavy or not. But Aikins last year thirty

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01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: seven catches, ker high four hundred and ninety five yards,

1729
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, career high. There he's the guy who caught

1730
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: the touchdown and the two point conversion that knocked the

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01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: Houston Texans out of the first overall pick in this

1732
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: year's draft. So yes, he can be a very very

1733
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: productive player. And I believe that the Browns pass catching

1734
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: corps at the end of this year, the receiving corps

1735
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: will be regarded differently than it is now. And again,

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01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how it's regarded. What matters is what

1737
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: the Browns go out there and do on Sundays and

1738
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 2: Mondays and Thursdays and maybe even some Saturdays this season.

1739
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: That's what it's going to be about, going out there

1740
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: and proving it. But I like the chemistry they're building.

1741
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: I like what we've seen thus far, and you'll cut

1742
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 2: people will see it. You saw clips yesterday, but in

1743
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: the mini camp. I think you'll see it on air

1744
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: on seven on sevens. Yes, we're a talented defense, but

1745
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: it does favor the offense and we're starting to see

1746
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: a rhythm and the ball not hitting the ground at

1747
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: a much higher rate than we've seen at any time

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01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: in the past with this Cleveland Browns team. And I

1749
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: think that's what that's that gets me a little bit

1750
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: obviously excited about this team. All Right, we'll be back.

1751
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: We'll wrap up some of those names. Yeah, I finished

1752
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: those five names to look at, and I think there

1753
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: are a couple here that makes sense for the Cleveland

1754
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: brown certainly one in particular. We'll do that when we

1755
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: come back here on Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by bally Bet.

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01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by bally Bet. Nathan's girl Jason Gibbs. All right,

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01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: give let's talk a little bit about the final five names.

1762
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: If there's anything we can do, we continue our ten

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01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: NFL star veterans who could still switch teams this offseason

1764
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: compliments of s I now, Matt Verderami, Sure, I think

1765
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: I've done it three different times. That's all right, it

1766
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: happens anyways, ite offseason fodder. Yes, and we get into

1767
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: it now. Thing or not a.

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: Thing, whether the player will be traded, be cut, or

1769
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: whether he'll remain with the team that he's currently with.

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: Chandler Jones defensive end Las Vegas.

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01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: He had been so productive I think double digit sacks

1772
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: and six of seven seasons. Unfortunately last year I think

1773
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: only four and a half sacks opposite Max Crosby with

1774
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 2: the Raiders. I don't know. I don't know what he

1775
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 2: still has left in the tank. I think Chandler Jones

1776
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: this is he would be somebody that would have been

1777
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: much more interesting without Zadarias Smith in the mix. But

1778
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: the brownsab Zadaria Smith. So I'm not sure. But he's

1779
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 2: had he has run from fifteen to nineteen was elite

1780
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: than in twenty twenty. He was hurt and he only

1781
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: had one sack twenty twenty one, bounces back with ten

1782
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 2: and a half last year, just four and a half

1783
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 2: in his first there with the Raiders. Yeah, I think

1784
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: he could be moved. Yes. Do I think he would

1785
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: be moved to the Browns? That would be barring an injury. No,

1786
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: I don't so.

1787
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 3: According to his cap numbers, do fourteen point two million

1788
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 3: against the cap in twenty twenty three, Raiders could trade

1789
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 3: Jones save ten point five million while opening up snaps

1790
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 3: for their first round rookie Tyree Wilson. Additionally, Jones would

1791
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: be a worthy trade target for a contender. An acquiring

1792
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: team would owe Jones only one point one six million

1793
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: this year before what having before having what amounts to

1794
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 3: a team option of sixteen million the following year. Okay,

1795
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 3: so it makes sense from a from a move standpoint,

1796
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 3: a cap standpoint, I think. But we'll see what happens

1797
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: up next. Defensive tackle Aaron Donald's Los Angeles.

1798
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: Rams thing or not a thing, Ziguru, I mean it

1799
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 2: should be. They're not gonna do anything of consequence. I

1800
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: don't think they might want to get some draft picks back. Yeah,

1801
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: and I think they need to do it. And now,

1802
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 2: if you go and read like the last paragraph there

1803
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: about the financial situation, this is one to me that

1804
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: if the Browns get off to a good start, if

1805
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: the Rams, let's say, don't and decide they're going to

1806
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: make a move. Now, I don't know if we can

1807
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 2: give them the kind of draft picks that they are

1808
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: looking for, that would be the question. But financially you

1809
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: could make it work. And number two, if you all

1810
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: of a sudden, are out there, Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald,

1811
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,839
Speaker 2: Dalvin Tomlinson and Zari Smith. You have the best defensive

1812
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: line in football. Are certainly in the discussion with a

1813
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: team like the Eagles or the forty nine ers, and

1814
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 2: you would be that's an all in, we're trying to

1815
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: win a super Bowl type of a move. But you

1816
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: could do it. It's doable.

1817
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 3: Donald thirty two years old, currently two years left on

1818
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: his deal, including caphits of twenty six million and thirty

1819
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 3: four point one million before a boyd year in twenty

1820
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: twenty five. However, there's a lot of things that bring

1821
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: this number down for another team if they were to

1822
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: pick him up. If the Rams trade Donald post June first,

1823
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 3: they save thirty five million over the upcoming two seasons

1824
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: while also netting much needed to draft capital on that front.

1825
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 3: The pick should be excellent considering Donald's the best defensive

1826
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 3: player of his era and would cost the acquiring team

1827
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 3: only thirteen point five million and ten million, respectively.

1828
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: Right, So it's doable. It's very doable. It is doable.

1829
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: Is yeah. He is a I mean, if you had

1830
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: him and Miles Garrett on the same line, I mean outrageous.

1831
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 2: So I find that one to be interesting. When people

1832
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: are talking about money and you know the Browns are

1833
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: going to position where they need to carry, I think

1834
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: some money forward to alleviate what's going on next year,

1835
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: but it could also be being safe for something like that.

1836
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: And I don't know anybody out there. If I said

1837
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: to you, we have this amount of money, we can

1838
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 2: end up using that and picks to get Aaron Donald,

1839
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 2: or we can use that money to get DeAndre Hopkins.

1840
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 2: I feel like one hundred percent would say Aaron Donald, right.

1841
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that Aaron Donald is going to

1842
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:47,839
Speaker 2: be a Cleveland Brown. I'm just saying that it's feasible,

1843
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 2: and I do think that he will be moved to

1844
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: a team trying to make that type of a playoff

1845
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: push yep up.

1846
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 3: Next, Safety Jamal Adams Seattle Seahawks.

1847
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Horrible contract.

1848
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: Who knows, Let's played thirteen games in the past two years.

1849
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows? Who knows? And we're not interested?

1850
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Adams do another forty five million over the next

1851
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 3: three years. Yeah.

1852
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 2: Next up.

1853
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 3: Speaking of teams that are in rebuild mode, Mike Evans

1854
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 3: Wide receive our Tampa Bay.

1855
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: I would be more surprised if he finishes the season

1856
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay, then I would be if he finished

1857
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 2: it somewhere else. And we talked about his contract. It's

1858
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: very doable and I think he makes a lot of sense.

1859
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: This guy is as consistent and has proven as it

1860
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: gets a thousand yards every single year in the league.

1861
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 3: Base salary of thirteen million, yep, final year of his contract.

1862
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 3: He's thirty years old, nine year career, never failed to

1863
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 3: post a thousand yards, which you had yesterday.

1864
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: I believe, Yeah, he's he is so good. I feel

1865
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: like that's a team that's going to be looking for

1866
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: the number one pick and you probably could get something

1867
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 2: for Mike Evans. Is that good? You know that he

1868
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: comes in. He may not be the fastest guy, but

1869
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: at six ' five, he knows how to get down

1870
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: the field. He's great in jump all situations. He's a

1871
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: big play legit, big play receiver.

1872
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: Yep. The final one Kevin Bayern safety tennesse See. I

1873
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 3: feel like this guy's name comes up every year, whether

1874
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 3: he's a free agent, whether he's I don't know. Maybe

1875
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 3: it's just because his contract number is large. He's doing

1876
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 3: twenty eight point two million over the next two years. Yeah,

1877
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 3: that's right, ridiculous amount of money.

1878
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: I think that makes it. I think that makes it

1879
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 2: almost impossible, right.

1880
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 3: I would think, I mean, thirty year old safety, nice

1881
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 3: trade piece to acquire.

1882
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: He's a great player, He is a great, great player.

1883
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense for us? Does it make sense

1884
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: for somebody else? Potentially the one that makes the most sense,

1885
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 2: I think for anybody that is to win a Super

1886
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 2: bowls here's Aaron Donald. And that is a scary prospect

1887
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 2: because there are gonna be many many teams in our

1888
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure at some point the Chiefs are thinking, hey,

1889
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: let's put Aaron Donald next to Chris Jones. Good Luck's

1890
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: see let's see what happens there. Yeah, good luck. So

1891
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: the Bengals could be a team. I mean, any I

1892
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 2: think anybody that is serious is absolutely going to be calling.

1893
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: I think that calls are being made about Aaron Donald.

1894
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 6: Yes.

1895
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Bengals would be the one

1896
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 2: after that fight where they had remember with the Rams

1897
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: that got a little bit nasty. Yeah, but I think

1898
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: they'd be able to put feelings aside in their pursuit

1899
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 2: of a Super Bowl. All right, so much more to come.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with that on Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett, Coming

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Speaker 2: Alright, folks, Tomorrow the final ota of the Browns twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three off season, and then next week it'll be

1906
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 2: the mandatory mini camp. Four days left, with four practice

1907
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 2: week left. Right now, we will be done with the

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01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 2: off season program, the first portion of that's right, and

1909
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: then training camp will start July the twenty second. Tomorrow,

1910
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,799
Speaker 2: we're gonna hear from Brown's offensive coordinator Alex van Pelt.

1911
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 2: Will do a little better or worse, whereas Gibbe likes

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01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 2: to call it higher or lower, maybe even a little

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Speaker 2: mail bagged bo. We'll be back with us.

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Speaker 3: We have a little fun on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a little fun on a Friday. So again,

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Speaker 2: we want to thank all of you for being with

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Speaker 2: us here today. Shout out to the Ross Tucker Podcast.

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Speaker 2: And of course we got to end the way we started.

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Speaker 2: All the love, all the prayers, all the support for

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Speaker 2: the great Jim Donovan. I love you, Jimmy. The next

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