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Speaker 2: What's up everybody? DJ here with Move the Sticks. A

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Speaker 2: little different episode coming your way today on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: This is always it's always a tough Monday after the

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Speaker 2: today's episode, what we've done is we've clipped off some

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Speaker 3: Ian Let's start with one of the first moves of

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Speaker 2: I think when you look at all the different openings

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Speaker 6: That has been the way that Bill Belichick has coached

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Speaker 6: We talked a couple weeks ago Ian about the Saints,

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Speaker 6: and I said, if they don't make the playoffs, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be the story of the near misses for the.

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 6: And that is the case, because at nine and eight,

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Speaker 6: that's a good season, but ten and seven would have

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Speaker 6: been even better. Blake Groop, he missed akes forty six

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Speaker 6: yard field goal against Green Bay in Week three would

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Speaker 6: have made the Saints three and oh. Then you had

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Speaker 6: close games Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Detroit, even the Rams game

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Speaker 6: where they tried the on side kick. Many of those

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Speaker 6: games with the ball in their hands, driving to take

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Speaker 6: the lead or tie the game, just unable to make

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Speaker 6: it happen. So the margin of error in this league

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Speaker 6: is razor thin. Dennis Allen was on the wrong side

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Speaker 6: of it. The Saints hoping with some tweaks to the

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Speaker 6: roster and elsewhere they could be on the right side

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Speaker 6: of it. With Dennis Allen in twenty twenty four, Onto

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Speaker 6: the Raiders. Antonio Peers in the locker room yesterday, once

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Speaker 6: again chanting Raiders as the tea as the players were

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Speaker 6: smoking Victory's cigars. Seems like he's got the inside track

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Speaker 6: on this one, and it has seemed it for quite

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Speaker 6: some time. Mark Davis said he was intrigued by Antonio

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Speaker 6: Piers when he named him the interim coach.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be more than intrigued. There.

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Speaker 6: You see him on the sideline for that Kansas City

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Speaker 6: game a couple of weeks ago. That had to be

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Speaker 6: what we think would be the kill shot. With regard

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Speaker 6: to his chances of being the head coach. Now, he

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Speaker 6: has brought in several veteran coaches, Tom Coughlin being one

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Speaker 6: of them, Marvin Lewis guys that he has a history with.

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Speaker 6: He played for Kauflin, he coached with Marvin Lewis. My

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Speaker 6: understanding is Tom Cofflin will continue to be part of

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Speaker 6: the process, the transition if Antonio Pierce gets the job.

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Speaker 6: With regard to helping him put together a coaching staff.

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Speaker 6: Maybe some folks who have had a history with Tom Cofflin.

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Speaker 6: We'll see about that. For now, the Raiders can interview

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Speaker 6: non NFL coaches in person, so guys Tom right now

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Speaker 6: that don't have a job, or college coaches if they

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Speaker 6: want to move along with the process. My belief is

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Speaker 6: from what I gather right now in conversations, they're going

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Speaker 6: to knock out the general manager first, which may wind

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Speaker 6: up being Champ Kelly, Kelly and Pierce together perhaps for

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Speaker 6: the Raiders going forward.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis is in the building every day, so that's

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Speaker 1: certainly an interview you could do pretty simply here moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Portant to understand that the Raider, even though Antonio Peers

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Speaker 1: is on the staff now, they still have to interview

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Speaker 1: at least two external minority candidates for both the head

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Speaker 1: coach and general manager position. So it's not as if

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis can come out today and say we've got

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Speaker 1: our guy at s AP, unless he secretly did a

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Speaker 1: couple of interviews behind the scenes already. Obviously, Antonio Peers

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Speaker 1: has been very impressive of five and four record, getting

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Speaker 1: a couple of wins over teams within their division. He's

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Speaker 1: made a stronger case as I think reasonably anybody could have.

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Speaker 1: He's got some good coaches there, Patrick Graham. That defense

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Speaker 1: was what was keeping him in games the entire season,

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Speaker 1: including when Josh McDaniels was there. They obviously need to

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Speaker 1: figure out some solutions one way or another on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Questions a quarterback. They still

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Speaker 1: owed Jimmy Garoppolo a little over eleven million dollars guaranteed

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Speaker 1: for next season. They don't necessarily believe in depending who

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Speaker 1: takes over the job, that they have the guy in

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Speaker 1: the building. Obviously Aidan O'Connell flash some things throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of this season. Here bottom line with Mark Davis,

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Speaker 1: he's always been interested in getting the big score, the

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Speaker 1: big name that he can put on the Marqui in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Who are those guys. There's not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of them. He hired a couple of the last

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Speaker 1: two times around, John Gruden and Josh McDaniels. Unless he's

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Speaker 1: going to bring back Gruden or bring in Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: or potentially Jim Harbaugh, which would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Antonio Peers has put himself in a position where certainly

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Speaker 1: he's got a case for this job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely an interesting one in Las Vegas. Certainly

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Speaker 3: appreciate all the inside guys Ian Rappaport, Tom Telisero, Mike Garofolo,

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Speaker 3: Guys Wait works, Red Lewis, Daniel Jeremiah, Brian Balde're back

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Speaker 3: here with you, DJ. Let's start there with what this

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Speaker 3: would need to look like for Antonio Pierce to maintain

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Speaker 3: his role now as the head coach moving forward.

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Speaker 4: And do you think the Raiders would approach.

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Speaker 2: This well, it's an interesting scenario. Speaking as somebody who

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Speaker 2: was in the building when they put up forty two

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Speaker 2: points in the first half against the Chargers, I can

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Speaker 2: tell you that they played very hard for Antonio Pierce.

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Speaker 2: And after they'd already gone through this with Rich Bisacia,

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Speaker 2: where the whole locker room rallied around their interim coach,

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Speaker 2: they went and made the postseason that year, and yet

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Speaker 2: they didn't hire him, and then it did not work

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Speaker 2: out well with the decision that followed. Man, I think

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Speaker 2: it'd be tough as an owner to do the same

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Speaker 2: thing for the second time. Here with Antonio Piers having success,

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Speaker 2: the players all lobbying for him. Now, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: they give him a five year contract, but if we're

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Speaker 2: talking about earning the opportunity to do this over next season.

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Speaker 2: I think he's right. He has earned that with what

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Speaker 2: he did on the grass. You know, DJ.

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Speaker 7: Antonio Piers came with Patrick Graham as a defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 7: and I think once Josh McDaniels left the building, I

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Speaker 7: think Patrick Graham really got a chance to really turn

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Speaker 7: his defense loose. And it used to be just Max

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Speaker 7: Crosby going crazy out there. But now you see effort.

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Speaker 7: You mentioned the effort. You see the effort, but you

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Speaker 7: see just how coordinated they are right now. And to

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Speaker 7: see a guy like Rob Ryan on that staff, like

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Speaker 7: it's a good staff with proven coaches that had won

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Speaker 7: in this league, and Antonio has assembled a staff. They

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Speaker 7: like playing, they like coaching with them, the players love

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Speaker 7: of them. I don't think they have to go very far.

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Speaker 7: I think Antonio Pierce should be the candidate, and I

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Speaker 7: think a large part because he's going to keep a

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Speaker 7: good staff around him. Maybe tweak it, make some changes,

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Speaker 7: but I think defensively they're on the right track and

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Speaker 7: that's been a problem for a long long time in

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Speaker 7: that organization.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, Baldi, how about also doing it with Aidan O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a team that had us established,

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Speaker 2: you know, marquee quarterback. To me, that even is another

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Speaker 2: feather in his cap what they're able to kind of

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Speaker 2: scrape together offensively.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, to Baldy's point on defense, this

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Speaker 3: is the best scoring defense in football. Over the nine

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Speaker 3: games that Antonio Pierce was the interim head coach, they

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Speaker 3: give him just sixteen a game.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, you know the game against.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers you were talking about played a role.

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Speaker 4: In that as well.

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Speaker 3: But there's plenty of positivity there in Las Vegas. Now

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Speaker 3: we just wait to see what ultimately happens.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, there you go a little different episode today.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to give you guys something to hope you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: We will be back tomorrow. The Senior Bowl Rockster Reveal

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Speaker 2: show is coming your way, so that'll be a fun episode.

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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with Jim Naggy, our buddy, the

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Speaker 2: executive director of the Reese's Senior Bowl, and we will

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Speaker 2: announce some big names, by the way, some that aren't

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Speaker 2: known just yet. So we will have that show coming

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Speaker 2: your way again. We'll be here each and everyboday this week,

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Speaker 2: so we appreciate it. We'll see you next time. Right

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Speaker 2: here onmove the sticks