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Speaker 1: What is up, Runner Gang. Welcome back to Post run High.

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Speaker 1: This is my first semi solo episode of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: and I say semi solo episode because we filmed this

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Speaker 1: conversation in two parts. Currently, I'm sitting here in my

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Speaker 1: office in Brooklyn, New York. But three weeks ago, I

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Speaker 1: was in Joshua Tree, California with my fiance and he

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Speaker 1: had the idea of doing a reverse interview on me,

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Speaker 1: where we do a deep dive into my life and

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Speaker 1: kind of unpack all the things that make me me

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Speaker 1: and make me who I am today. On top of that,

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Speaker 1: at the end of this episode, Jeremy is going to

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Speaker 1: sit back down with me here in New York and

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Speaker 1: we are going to go over some takeaways from the

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Speaker 1: episode and any key learnings that I think can apply

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Speaker 1: to your guys's life. Without further ado, Please make sure

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Speaker 1: you guys subscribe to this channel. Your support means the

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Speaker 1: world to me, and also follow me across social media

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Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok at Kate Max. Let's get into the

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Speaker 1: full story of me. So for context, Jeremy and I

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Speaker 1: are currently in Joshua Tree, California. We come here every

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Speaker 1: year over the holidays, and it's actually where we got

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Speaker 1: engaged last year, so it's a very special place to us.

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Speaker 1: And we did go for a four mile run. Got

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Speaker 1: to keep it authentic, guys. It's called post run high

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Speaker 1: for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Elevation here is no joke. Yeah, the airs, then maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm just am I out of shape. It was tough

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Speaker 2: keeping up with Kate today was a struggle.

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Speaker 1: I think Jeremy always asks me after a run. He's like,

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Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Was that hard for you? And

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Speaker 1: I feel like you forget that. I literally do this

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Speaker 1: every single day for a job, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Like quite aware of what you do for HELLOAI.

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Speaker 1: So my stamina is there. But I do have to

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Speaker 1: say today was kind of hard. I was definitely breathing heavy,

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Speaker 1: and it was so cold outside. I feel like whenever

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Speaker 1: I'm running in cold weather, I just feel it more

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Speaker 1: in my lungs.

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Speaker 3: We're at Walmart yesterday and Kate asked to check out person.

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Speaker 3: She's like, we're in California, said it's supposed to be

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Speaker 3: warm here. He's like, I mean, we're in the desert.

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Speaker 3: In the summer it's really really hot and in the

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Speaker 3: winter it's really really cold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're planning a trip to josh Wit Tree,

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Speaker 1: you just know that all year round it's beautiful. The

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Speaker 1: summer apparently is very very hot, and the winter is chilly.

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Speaker 1: It kind of feels like late fall. Here is the

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Speaker 1: weather I would describe like if you're a New Yorker,

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Speaker 1: which I feel like a lot of my listeners are

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers, or you're in a city that gets cold

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Speaker 1: in the late fall winter, that's that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: it feels like here in Joshua Tree.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is beautiful, and I'm so thankful to be here.

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Speaker 3: We're at a house that Frank Sinatra supposedly lived in.

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Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I've been very freaked out by.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the ghost of Frank Sinatra is with us. I'm

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Speaker 3: personally a big fan of the ghost. I I welcome

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Speaker 3: the ghosts. If the ghost you know, wherever you are

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Speaker 3: in the house, you're listening right now, m All, I

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Speaker 3: love you, You're, You're, You're, You're. Goadd Kate is a little

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Speaker 3: bit more frightened by the ghost of Frank.

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Speaker 1: It's a very big house. I think I realized really

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Speaker 1: quickly that I'm so used to apartment living that when

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Speaker 1: I get into a really big house that just has

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Speaker 1: all this space, I'm like a little spooked by it.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get into some things.

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Speaker 3: So Kate has a lot of valuable things to share

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Speaker 3: it I think would be pretty insightful for you to

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Speaker 3: you guys. One of them is definitely not how to drive,

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Speaker 3: because she can't really help anybody there. But what I

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Speaker 3: think would be awesome, uh is just like I would

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Speaker 3: love to hear kind of how you got to where

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Speaker 3: you are. I mean, you're doing a podcast alongside iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Your running interview show has probably gotten like maybe even

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Speaker 3: like a billion views at this point, Like a we

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Speaker 3: should probably do some do some data on that one.

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Speaker 3: But you quit your job I guess probably about a

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Speaker 3: year and a half ago, right, and you're kind of

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Speaker 3: building a media media company and then producing shows and

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Speaker 3: you know, pushing the envelope doing some really cool things.

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Speaker 3: So Kate, like walk us back, like all right, you

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Speaker 3: were in New Jersey. Yeah, And I think I think

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Speaker 3: But walk us back to like twelve years old, Like,

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Speaker 3: what were you doing well at that time? What was

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Speaker 1: You twelve year old Kate. Let's see, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Kind of scared at twelve year old Kate personally, are

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Speaker 3: you maybe twelve year old Kate?

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Speaker 2: I'll I'll pull my ear muscle on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I can give you the backstory

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Speaker 1: on me as a person because I haven't really done that,

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Speaker 1: which is so weird. It's like, I feel like so

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Speaker 1: much of my life is online.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're interviewing other people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's what you do, Like you run interview,

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Speaker 3: you sit down post run high interview.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because I feel like so much of my

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Speaker 1: life is online in a sense, because I post videos

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Speaker 1: almost every single day of what I'm up to during

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Speaker 1: that week, you know, running with people, sitting down talking

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Speaker 1: to people now for post run High. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, you guys really don't know that much about me,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm really excited for this episode because we're

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Speaker 1: digging into it. I guess, starting with when I was twelve.

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Speaker 3: Years old to twelve years old, we're in sixth grade. Okay,

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Speaker 3: which middle school?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So growing up. So, I grew up, as I said,

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Speaker 1: The whole town was a mile by a mile. I'm

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Speaker 1: one of three kids. I have two older brother sorry,

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Speaker 1: like one of my best friends. Love Brendan to death.

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I grew up in a family of five

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Speaker 1: and my parents really loved sports for us. You know,

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Speaker 1: we were all very active kids, and we took a

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Speaker 1: sport that I really really liked was lacrosse. And I've

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Speaker 3: For context, her brothers were national champion lacrosse players in

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Speaker 1: Yes, I played lacrosse.

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Speaker 2: You got good at it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was my like, that was my life.

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Speaker 1: which is like contact sports and being on a sports

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Speaker 1: really you can relate as a basketball player, right, like

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Speaker 1: that like the graft is completely torn again, like I

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00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 1: am not gonna go through with surgery again, and I

438
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: am done playing lacrosse. Isn't that sad? Oh my god,

439
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: you scrow me. It's okay, gonna make me cry. Oh

440
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: my god, you're making me cry.

441
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: So you tore it that second time.

442
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: At that point, it was evident one door had closed, Yes,

443
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: did another open?

444
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? Yes? Oh my god, yeah, I have something

445
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: that can really make you cry. But I won't do

446
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: it too.

447
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: Do it. Come on, I want to hear it, come on, Okay.

448
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 1: So after I tore my AL, my mom was like

449
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: I need to distract her and as you know, I

450
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: love stores with random shit.

451
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

452
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: So literally driving back from this steps lacrosse practice and

453
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: with a tor yes. And my mom is like a

454
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: tiger mom, so like while she was doing good stuff

455
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: for me, she was also like telling me how it is.

456
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: She was like, if you retore your a cl which

457
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: fucking pray you read you didn't, We're gonna have to

458
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: figure out what you're gonna do, you know, because your

459
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 1: grades aren't great and lacrosse was all your folks to

460
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: do when you talk about a differentiator college application wise,

461
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: I was already end of my sophomore year now in

462
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: high school going into my junior year, like I was

463
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: somebody that was on track to play deep on the cross.

464
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: That's what my older brothers were doing. That's like what

465
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna do. So I literally had

466
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: my mom saying, who's like so type I so tig

467
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: your mom. Right after a doorsl She's like, I don't

468
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna do, Like this is a disaster.

469
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like already feeling down bad and all of

470
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm like, oh my god, it's over whatever.

471
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: So that was like a bad thing, and then moving forward.

472
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: I remember she's whatever. She ends up taking me to

473
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: a store on the way back that just like has

474
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of like random stuff like anything from like

475
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: your random Christmas ornaments to like the cute I don't know,

476
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: like just cute knickknacks and shit, like I love that stuff.

477
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: I can get lost in one of those stores. And

478
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: I see this like plaque. It was like one of

479
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 1: those quote plaques that you put kind of above your

480
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: door or wherever you want, and it said life isn't

481
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning

482
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: to dance in the rain. And she was like, you

483
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: buy one thing, And so I bought that.

484
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: Where'd you put it?

485
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: So I put it in my room and I looked

486
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: at it literally every day, and I was like, well,

487
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: I loved video editing, like I loved my blog. And

488
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: there was always a side of me growing up that like,

489
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: while my parents pushed athletics, like, I was also like

490
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: very artistic and I did a lot of oil painting

491
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: classes growing up and I loved it, like I loved

492
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: painting still lives, and I really liked like Haynd drawing,

493
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: and so I was like, I know what I'm gonna do,

494
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna lean into art, like I'll start applying

495
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: to schools because I always thought kind of like after

496
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: college I would go into a job in advertising or

497
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: something creative. But it was in this moment where I

498
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: was no longer playing the sport and going to college

499
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: for it, that I was like, I can really figure

500
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: out what I want to do in college, you know,

501
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: like I can really sit down and like get it

502
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: good at an actual skill. And that's exactly what I did.

503
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I worked with this guy, Frank Riley for my junior

504
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: year and my senior year, and Frank Riley's this incredible artist,

505
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: and we together he helped me, you know, put together

506
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: my art portfolio and he really like taught me how

507
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: to watercolor, paint and use charcoal and it was really cool.

508
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: And we put this vast portfolio together that had like

509
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: all these different mediums, and I shotgunned every single school

510
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: that had like a top art program, like I applied

511
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: to Parsons Pratt f T, Syracuse's Art School, Boston University,

512
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: Boston University's Art School, Risdy, and I got ended up

513
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: getting into every single school that I applied to granted.

514
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: And then you went to none of them, and.

515
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: Then I went to none of them, which is kind

516
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: of weird.

517
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: There was some there was some parental influence there, yes, yes, yes,

518
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: or maybe safe to say, yeah, your parents didn't want

519
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: you as Parsons as much as they wanted you getting

520
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: a marketing or you know, finance degree, something more in

521
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: line with what they were familiar with.

522
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents ended up really pushing like you should

523
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: go to a school for business and marketing and go

524
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: into advertising, you know, and you know, in hindsight, in

525
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: hindsight twenty twenty, like the schools that I was choosing

526
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: between were parsons for the visual arts program and ended

527
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: up being foredam and I really wanted a school in

528
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: New York City. I grew up forty five minutes away

529
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: from the city. I loved going into the city. I

530
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: like after Terry macill and going through all of that.

531
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: One of the things that I also did when I

532
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: was a junior and senior is I took a lot

533
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: of weekend classes at f IT, which I loved so much,

534
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: and I would literally after the classes just walk around

535
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: the city all day. I remember my dad would give

536
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: me like twenty bucks and I would just like you know.

537
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: Going in some dollar slice.

538
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I would just walk around. There was actually

539
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: a place called MEXICU that I loved, going to.

540
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: Shout in Mexico. Yeah, but you went to Fordham. He

541
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: studied marketing.

542
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: Went to Fordham studied marketing. Like, didn't have the best

543
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 1: college experience.

544
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 3: You met me, but yeah, not at Fordham, but while

545
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: you were in college while I was in college.

546
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like, whenever I see content creators and

547
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: I've intern you a lot of content creators that have

548
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: these incredible college experiences. Even you you had an awesome

549
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: college experience, Like I really didn't have that. And I

550
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: think it was because, like I was so fucking confused

551
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: as a person. Like after like my whole life, my

552
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: whole early life was kind of like changed. So suddenly

553
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: in my teens, I feel like my late teens in

554
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: high school and the beginning of college, like I was

555
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: figuring myself out, you know, like I was figuring out, like, okay,

556
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: outside of a sport, who were my friends? You know?

557
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: Like who do I hang out with? Because growing up,

558
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: like I was always just friends with the girls on

559
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: my sports teams. But by my sophomore year, I transferred

560
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: to the city campus. I went to Fordham Lincoln Center,

561
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: and I loved it, and I realized that the thing

562
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: that I just had to do for myself was start

563
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: getting internships. And that's exactly what I did. So I,

564
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, worked multiple jobs when I was in college.

565
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: I started out as a waitress when I was a freshman,

566
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 1: and then by my sophomore year, I started working at

567
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: a creative agency. Shout out Shanda. She was my mentor

568
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: and I like owe everything to her in college, and

569
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: then she helped me get my next job, which was

570
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: at like another creative agency, and I kind of agency bounced.

571
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: And then when I graduated, I started working in advertising.

572
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: So you were working in advertising, and I do think

573
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: at a certain point you were kind of like you

574
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: looked above and said, who are the people who I'm

575
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: working for? Who are the people they are working for?

576
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: You know? This is this is this is what it is.

577
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I graduated. I graduated a year or early.

578
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: I ended up like paying for my last year of college,

579
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: so I was like, let me expedite this shit.

580
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: When I met Kate, I think I met going into

581
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: our senior year, and you were like taking night classes,

582
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 3: you were working during the day, you were taking like

583
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: a full eighteen hour credit load at night, and you

584
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: were like, I'm finishing early. Like that was like the

585
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: first thing you said. I'm like, geez, girl, you're doing

586
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 3: a lot like everything, Okay, You're like, I got to

587
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: finish early.

588
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I was like, let me just nail this job that

589
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing at these internships, build out my resume, and

590
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: graduate early. And it all ended up working out. I

591
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: graduated early, and yeah, I started working and advertising. One

592
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: job ended up leading to the next, which was this

593
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: company called Lippincott that I was so excited to work out,

594
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: and for about six months of it, I was thriving.

595
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: There was an older girl that had gone to Fordam

596
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: that helps me get the interview, and I just thought

597
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: the work they were doing was fascinating. I thought it

598
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: was so cool, so many lovely people at the company.

599
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: And then this new bitch came into town and she

600
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: became my boss, and I don't know what it was

601
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: about me, but she did not like me, and I

602
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: knew it immediately. It's kind of like dating where you

603
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: just know immediately whether you like him or don.

604
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: I feel like I was site.

605
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: It was not love at first site, and she was

606
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: the worst. I remember she picked on me everything I

607
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: did was wrong, and I was like, I just know

608
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: everything I'm doing isn't wrong, Like I have so much experience,

609
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm very creative and like, at least I'm being

610
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: proactive and at suggesting ideas and adding value in the

611
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: way that I could. Like I knew I wasn't doing

612
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: a bad job, you know, like I'm such a hard worker.

613
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: But she just had it out for me.

614
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: Well, she probably didn't like that you were suggesting things

615
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: and giving ideas. You know, some people some people like that,

616
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: they like the initiative. Some people don't. They they go, hey,

617
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: who are you to? Who are you to, like tell

618
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: me what I did wasn't right, And I don't think

619
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: you have like the patience or you're direct, You're very directly.

620
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't there.

621
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean at the time, it's not that I was

622
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: being super direct, right, like they were my bosses, and

623
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: everything I did was like super polite and super nice.

624
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: And I actually remember her saying to me in one

625
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: of my reviews, like you should work in social media.

626
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: And maybe she was right, like maybe she saw something there. Anyway,

627
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: she ended up firing me actually during COVID, which was

628
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: like the worst time to get fired. That's when you

629
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: and I started like hanging out a lot, and I

630
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: was scrambling for new work. And what was actually really

631
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: lucky is at the time that I got fired, it

632
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: was almost okay because I had a lot of other

633
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: freelance gigs that I was doing.

634
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: Well, we had one big one, Well, I have a couple.

635
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: I had a couple. I was helping one of Jeremy's

636
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: aunts run her social media business for her Essential Oil company.

637
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: After doing the Essential Oil Company for a while, I

638
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: was like, this is so fun. Let me see if

639
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I can get a few new clients. So I was like,

640
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: I should just go into some businesses around Brooklyn and

641
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: New York and like see if they need any help

642
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: with their social media. So I went into this one

643
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: company called or one coffee shop called PQ Coffee Roasters,

644
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was called. And it was

645
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: so cool, like the whole place was decked out. It

646
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: was so aesthetic. It was very colorful. If you live

647
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: in Williamsburg, I don't even know if it's still there.

648
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: I think it is, because I think they expanded. They

649
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: were expanding at the time, but I walked in and

650
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I just said, hey, you know,

651
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: I would love to help you guys with your social media,

652
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: and very quickly they became one of my clients as well,

653
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: and that was really cool. I was being so scrappy.

654
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I went in with like my dad's old camera and

655
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I was taking pictures and editing the photos and taking videos,

656
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was kind of awesome. But it was

657
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: just also showed that, you know, while a lot of

658
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: this stuff at the time was also online sending resumes around,

659
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: I also just walked right into the storefront and I said, hey,

660
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: I need a job, and I think I can help you.

661
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: And at the time, you had started posting social media

662
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: around around this time from your own account.

663
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it.

664
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: Wasn't it's not what you're doing today. Yeah, it was

665
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: very much you like building your base.

666
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so I started, I, like so many of

667
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: you guys, like, I love social media. I think it's

668
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: so fun. I was sharing, you know, what I eat

669
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: in the day and day in the life. And I

670
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: was also training for the New York City Marathon. For

671
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one New York City Marathon, and I

672
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: was like, let me document this, so I started documenting my.

673
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: I remember your like your the Squid Games. I think

674
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: that was your first video that ever like went viral.

675
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: Was like you're like three two one, run fast for

676
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: your done the fast you done it? It was it

677
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: was electric. Yeah, and it was the start of the

678
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: New York City Marathon. Uh huh, yeah, started the New

679
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: York It was like your watch. It was your Apple

680
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: Watch going like three two one and then like panning

681
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: up in fifty thousand runners.

682
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sick over the Arizonto Bridge and yeah,

683
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 1: that's that. Training for the New York City Marathon was

684
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: what kicked off me experimenting on social media because I

685
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: started posting vlogs and I started, you know, putting myself

686
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: out there, putting myself on camera and realizing, oh, I

687
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: actually really like this, just like I liked it when

688
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I was in high school. It was almost like I

689
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: lost myself and I had to come back to myself.

690
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: You know. It's people talk about connecting with your inner child.

691
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Video editing and vlogging was something I loved when I

692
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: was fourteen and fifteen and sixteen, and then I kind

693
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: of lost touch with it. Because I was figuring out,

694
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, what's next, and then I came back to it.

695
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: So there you go.

696
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: How did you like what was the start for like

697
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: what we know you for today, which is the running

698
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: interview show.

699
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, Jeremy and I had the idea

700
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: to start a series online and I really wanted to

701
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: do running interview show. It was something that I was

702
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: kind of set on. And I just remember you and

703
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I back in our teeny tiny apartment in Greenwich Village brainstorming,

704
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, what is it that we could do with

705
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: running interviews that you know would allow me to make money?

706
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: Because allow me to make money even if I.

707
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: Had gotten fired from Lippincott, I very quickly got another

708
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: at Omnicom at an advertising agency.

709
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: But you did not.

710
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: You did not feel super passionate. That one was like

711
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: healthcare is something.

712
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't love it. It just the

713
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: it just there was no growth.

714
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think so this so this may have

715
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: been where it's like, all right, we need to find

716
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: a way. We're like, yeah, I can make the side

717
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: hustle money, like work with clients, but really need a

718
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: way for social media to become like something that I

719
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: can do full time because I loved.

720
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: It, like and I knew that I could provide like

721
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: a confident, strong voice for women.

722
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: And you did you want to say, I want to

723
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: do something that's like very positive and authentic to my self,

724
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: and you know, I think Kate. Another takeaway was also

725
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: like we have some some friends who were doing social media,

726
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: had just started doing social media full time, and would

727
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: make sure to like call them or you know, I'll

728
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: give a special shout out to Chris Chilawney or our

729
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: friend who passed away. But we had a weekend with

730
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Speaker 3: Chris in North Carolina. Chris and I are both from

731
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: North Carolina where probably like four or five hours of

732
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: the weekend where Chris, you know, myself and yourself really

733
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: just being like, how can we how can we make

734
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: this something that like works, that works? And Chris had

735
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 3: recently created like a quote unquote like viral content series

736
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: or viral show. So he explained like his process for

737
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: coming up you know, with the you know his ideas

738
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: and you know his iterations, and it was he was

739
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: the guy who did like, hey, can I give you

740
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: a dollar double a gift to the next person. He

741
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: started out doing in Washington Square Park. Within like two months,

742
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: he had probably quit his job, and I think he

743
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: had a brand deal that you know, gave him the

744
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: confidence to really dive into it full time. But I

745
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: would say Kate was vocal with like, all right, who

746
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: which of our friends, like has has done this? And

747
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: you know, let's get our heads together and let's like

748
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: let's figure something out.

749
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what.

750
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: And Chris was the first one I think who ever

751
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: did a run with you?

752
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, he was in my old format. And all

753
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: you and Chris and everybody would say is like, you

754
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: need to come up with a hook, Like you need

755
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: to come up with a format that you.

756
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 2: Can do over and over again with.

757
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: Each person's different obviously, but let's come up with a format.

758
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: And I literally remember the moment where we were getting

759
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: into a cab in New York City because I was

760
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: like forcing you to view an apartment with me, which

761
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: is a whole.

762
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: Other st that's its own podcast. We have a beautiful

763
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: apartment with our cat nowadays.

764
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: Yes, I miss him so much. I remember the moment

765
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: we were getting into a cab and I say to Jeremy,

766
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: oh my god, I know what I'm gonna do. I'm

767
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: gonna buy everybody's speakers. Yeah, that runs with me as

768
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: a prize, like that'll be the prize. Kicked off the

769
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: show literally the next day with our roommate Yordy. He

770
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: ran eight miles with me. He does not run, and

771
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: the video did well enough for me to say, all right,

772
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: let me do it another.

773
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: You just knew it was like, this is gonna work.

774
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: I just knew, and I knew it was gonna work

775
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: because in the first month we got eighty million hits.

776
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: That's insane. It was awesome, and the show started doing

777
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: really well, and you know, like social media is, there's

778
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: there's highs, and there's lows, and there's highs and there's lows.

779
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: And we definitely rode this really high wave for a while,

780
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: got a really great base of you guys, you know,

781
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: enjoying the guests.

782
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: People thought, you know, made people feel good and inspired

783
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: people to run. Yeah, like all positive things.

784
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: And that's it. The show started, and I never want

785
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: to stop it. It's literally so fun for me. I

786
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: get to run with people for a living. I keep

787
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: in mind, like I don't even think we really touched

788
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: on this, but like after I tore my ACL in

789
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: high school, just like backtracking a second, I leaned into

790
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: running full force, like running was and always will be

791
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: like my happy place. It helped me like find my

792
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: spark again, literally, and it's been the most consistent thing

793
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: in my life for the longest time. Like you can't

794
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: say I'm not consistent. I literally have run almost every

795
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: single day since I was fourteen.

796
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 3: So you're running with people, you have your tripod, your

797
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: selfie stick, you're documenting their journey.

798
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 2: So for about I don't know, like.

799
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: Eight months, would you say it was just you doing

800
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: that every day, editing the videos.

801
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: And then at what point were you like, oh.

802
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: My god, it was such a grind. I was waking

803
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: up every day before my nine to five at like

804
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: six am. Some days go going for two runs in

805
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: the morning, some days, you know, just doing one and

806
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: then laying in bed, edit the video, posting the video

807
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: by tenant or on the couch or on the couch

808
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: wherever I was, and then I would go to work

809
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: and that was, you know, that was my job.

810
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: And then at what point did you have the confidence?

811
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: I remember you calling me and being like, I I

812
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: quit or here's what happened. They put you on a

813
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: performance plan, and oh here's what happened.

814
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: So, as you can imagine, this very quickly took over

815
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: my entire focus.

816
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: And my life went zero to one hundred real quick,

817
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: like twelve million, eighteen million views, twenty million views.

818
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I started getting brand deals and people reaching out,

819
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of the stuff that happens

820
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: on social media happens during normal working hours. So I

821
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: was like, I can't possibly have a full time job

822
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: while I'm doing all of this, you know, And there's

823
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: so much opportunity in front of me, and like, this

824
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: is making me feel so good, and it was just

825
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: so aligned with me. I just like knew it in

826
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: my core and that was it. Yeah, I ran with it, literally,

827
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: and within one month I quit my job. And it

828
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: was because I got so busy that my boss could tell.

829
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: And I had recently gotten switched on to a new team.

830
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: I was a senior account executive, so you have to

831
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: be like managing a team of people and you know,

832
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: be really engaged, and I just like my heart just

833
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: was not there. And I literally remember at the end

834
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: of the first month of me starting my show, my

835
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: boss calls me into a meeting with like hr and

836
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: was like, we're going to put you on a performance plan.

837
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: We're going to walk you through it. And they literally

838
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: stopped him right there, and I go, everybody, everybody, I

839
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: want to save you thirty minutes. Please, like you do

840
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: not need to walk you through a performance plan. Please,

841
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: Dear God, like I'm putting in my two weeks effective

842
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: immediately because what I said. We are back in New York.

843
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to my conversation with Jeremy.

844
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: We're now sitting down here with Jeremy and we're going

845
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: to talk about some key takeaways from our conversation and

846
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: just some things that you know, you guys could potentially

847
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: learn from it and implement into your own lives.

848
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: Well back in Brooklyn by way of Bali, Taiwan, Tokyo,

849
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, and now we're back here with our son

850
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: John Pierre.

851
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: We first started in Joshua Tree. We were with Jeremy's family,

852
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: and then we figured since we were already in California,

853
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: we might as well head from California to Asia because

854
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: it's an easier flight than flying from New York to Asia.

855
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: So we flew from Joshua Tree to Bali. We were

856
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: in Bali for a bit, and then we kind of

857
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: got the bug to keep exploring other parts of Asia,

858
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: so we went to Taiwan, and then we went to

859
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: Japan and we went to Tokyo and Kyoto is how you

860
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: say it, Yes, Kyoto. We flew back from Japan to

861
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: La the fire the wildfires hit basically a couple days

862
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: after we had gotten there, and we're kind of settling

863
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: in and anyways, now we're back in New York unexpectedly,

864
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: but we're here.

865
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were supposed to stay the entire month

866
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: of January in Los Angeles.

867
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: So getting this into the themes.

868
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: Of what you've talked about, like just life hitting you

869
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: with unexpected things.

870
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it hits so many people with unexpected things.

871
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: All these people who I mean the Palisades Los Angeles

872
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: some of the most you know, successful people and not

873
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: just media but in the country. And they've worked so

874
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: hard to build these lives for themselves and you know,

875
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: have houses and the Palisades are beautiful. It's like right

876
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: next to malb and Malibu in same place to live.

877
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: But now their homes are gone and they've got they've

878
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: got to figure it out.

879
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: It's wild how your life can just change in an instant,

880
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, like you can put so much planning and

881
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: preparation into one thing and then before you know it,

882
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: those plans can be taken away from you or just change.

883
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: However, I think with you, well, you know things have

884
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: happened to you. You've maintained consistent, especially when it comes

885
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: to movement, and no matter what, no matter what you've

886
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: gone through, whether it be injuries, whether it be job situations,

887
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: to make yourself feel good and to reut, you know,

888
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: push yourself back in the right direction. The first thing

889
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: you've done is just get outside, get running.

890
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: There's so much research that shows how good like movement

891
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: is for your mind and of course your body. And yeah,

892
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: going for a run was always something that got my head,

893
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: got my head on right. I definitely believe in the

894
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: power of movement, and that's definitely something that I've always

895
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: enjoyed doing. But like we talked about it earlier, I

896
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I really double clicked into it. But

897
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: for me, it was like when lacrosse got taken away

898
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: from me at such a young age, and then I

899
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: spent most of my time like my form of movement

900
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: from that went really into running. It was like running

901
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: gave me so much purpose, you know, and really helped

902
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: me like collect my thoughts and figure out who I

903
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: wanted to become, you know, because who I thought I

904
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: wanted to become was no longer in the realm of possibility.

905
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: And I think the second thing there would be, Like

906
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: you just touched on the importance of having purpose to

907
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: having goals that you can drive towards, right, I think.

908
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: It's so important to set goals for yourself, But I

909
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: think it's also important to like, like what I did,

910
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: you know when I was younger like that, And this

911
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: has happened so many times throughout my life, Like sometimes

912
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: you need to figure out what makes you feel good

913
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: and what's a positive habit to do that could eventually

914
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: lead to figuring out what your goals are, you know

915
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like for me, it was like I

916
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: reachore my asal for the second time I felt helpless.

917
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: I started running in my free time, started making me

918
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: feel good. All of a sudden, I started taking care

919
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: of myself more, my life started feeling more put together,

920
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I was able to figure

921
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: out new goals for myself and new aspirations. You know.

922
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: Ever since I've known Kate, since the first night I

923
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: met her, she has always been very specific with you know,

924
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: what she was driving towards at that time. The night

925
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: I met her, she talked about how she was trying

926
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: to graduate from school early and was taking night classes

927
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: in addition to working and internship at a marketing agency

928
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: during the day, when she had jobs that maybe weren't

929
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: you know, either paying her what you needed in addition

930
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: to weren't providing you that purpose you built, like your

931
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: own side hustle, your own you know, marketing consultancy, when

932
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 3: when you got fired.

933
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. A common theme of my life, outside of movement

934
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: and outside of being consistent is like get comfortable being uncomfortable.

935
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: And that's something that like my parents always kind of

936
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: pushed onto it onto us. And I would say, like

937
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: for my brothers they lived, they in their youth had

938
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: like a much more comfortable life, like I was constantly

939
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: thrown into like discomfort, you know, But at the end

940
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: of the day, it's like I grew so much from

941
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: being so uncomfortable, Like I would not be who I

942
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: am today if it wasn't for kind of like what

943
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I experienced and like grew through you've all didn't have.

944
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: This, no matter what your goal has changed, but you've

945
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: always had a goal.

946
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: I've always had a goal, yeah, whether it was graduating

947
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: early or you know, getting an internship in the city.

948
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: I do think I always had a goal. And I'm

949
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: somebody that's like such a hard worker. If you guys

950
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: were to watch my old blog videos when I was

951
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: like recovering from ACL surgeries, I was like, such a

952
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: hard oh. Like I've always been such a hard oh.

953
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's like it's one of my flaws

954
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: a little bit.

955
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: She was like, she was like, Okay, on Tuesdays, every Tuesday,

956
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: Wednesday Thursday at the school gets out at three thirty.

957
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 4: From three thirty to four thirty, I'm in pt Then

958
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 4: from four thirty to five thirty, I'm icing. From five

959
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: thirty to six, I'm preparing for dinner.

960
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was me. But it was cute.

961
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: It was cute. It was cute. I was kind of like, oh,

962
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: my goodness.

963
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: But it's cool seeing that stuff because like, I feel

964
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: like as we get older, we forget about these core things,

965
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: Like I feel like now I'm twenty seven and I

966
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: just now, like, you know, within the past two years

967
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: have started to connect with my inner child in a

968
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: way and the things that have always been a core

969
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: of me. I think you know that conversation alone was

970
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: really me with Jeremy reflecting on my life. If you're

971
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: somebody that's like struggling with purpose right now, find one

972
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: of your really good friends, unpack your life with them,

973
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, walk them step through step through step, like

974
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: what you were like at each age starting at twelve,

975
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: like what we just did, and that might help you

976
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: like figure out kind of what your purpose is.

977
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: And if you all have part of the run A gang,

978
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: you're probably probably already getting moving and you know the

979
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: importance of getting moving, but you can.

980
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: Always get moving more. And also you can always find

981
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: more purpose every.

982
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: Time I meet one of you guys, like whether it's

983
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: at one of the group events that I've hosted or

984
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: just out in public, Like I'm always so impressed by

985
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: you guys, Like you guys are such more impressed, like

986
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: way more impressive people than I am. You know, I'm

987
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: always like, oh my god, this is so cool that

988
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: we've fostered a community of such smart, active women.

989
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: And men and men there are pretty it's like thirty

990
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: percent men at these events.

991
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, there's always guys.

992
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: There, strong, strong, strong.

993
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Smart men social like I don't know, it's really cool.

994
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: So with that being said, how are we moving forward?

995
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Well, I guess a we're moving forward as closer friends

996
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: because you guys just learned like my deepest, darkest secrets

997
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: and everything about me, which was kind of scary, but

998
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: it's okay because I'm comfortable with you guys. And second

999
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: of all, I think, like, if there's anything that you

1000
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: can learn from my story that I will continue to

1001
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: ingrain in you guys, it's that the power of the

1002
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: pivot is so fucking real. Something happens in your life

1003
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: and you have to redirect, Like see that as an opportunity,

1004
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: Like having to redirect your life is not a failure,

1005
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: It's an opportunity to succeed in a different way. It's like,

1006
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm religious, so I would say it's God

1007
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: pushing you in a different direction for a reason. And

1008
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: then the second thing is the obvious. But you know,

1009
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: Runner gang, let's be consistent with our movement. Get that

1010
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: mind right this year?

1011
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: What specific what can we look for you? Like, what

1012
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: what are you working on?

1013
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: Well?

1014
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: Having the conversation with you in Joshua Tree definitely, like

1015
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: as we kind of said, got me rethinking about my

1016
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: purpose and things that I want to focus on. And

1017
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: I think in twenty twenty five, one of the big

1018
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: things that I want to focus on is like a

1019
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: not comparing myself to other people, you know, and I

1020
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: really want to be like living my true individual like

1021
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: authentic self, and like showing up as that person, because

1022
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: I think anytime we try to be something that we're not,

1023
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: or you know, force a square into a circle, which

1024
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: I think happens a lot with social media, when we're

1025
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: constantly comparing ourselves to other people, I think that is

1026
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: when we fail. So I think, like the biggest thing

1027
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: for me is like living my truth, showing up as

1028
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: Kate Mackie, Kate Max in every single.

1029
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: Way, you know, changing maybe changing my name.

1030
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: Soon my name will not change to you guys. But yeah,

1031
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I'm working on. Like

1032
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people like I think you learned

1033
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: from our conversation we just had, Like I'm constantly working

1034
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: on myself, Like I am the last person that's going

1035
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: to say perfect, you know, while I try to be

1036
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: so optimistic and I do always see the glass half full,

1037
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: Like that is something.

1038
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: About critical on yourself.

1039
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I am critical on myself and like I'm constantly challenging

1040
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: myself to be better, you know, and that it's just

1041
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: living in this constant mode of be comfortably being uncomfortable.

1042
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Like I think if I was too comfortable in life,

1043
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be happy because I enjoy a challenge, you know,

1044
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: and I enjoy like getting better and like learning more

1045
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: and listening to other people, making more friends. Like so anyways,

1046
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: that's one of the big things I'm working on, is

1047
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: like really showing up as myself, especially to all of

1048
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: you guys. The second is about the shows, Like I

1049
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: just want to continue making great content, like continue to

1050
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: become an even better storyteller. I think one of the

1051
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: things that I learned about myself is that I love

1052
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: like storytelling, and I love sitting down with people, and

1053
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just at the forefront of doing

1054
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: what I'm meant to be doing. And who knows, maybe

1055
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: that's just me being crazy and too ambitious, but I

1056
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: really do believe that my baby right now really is

1057
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: getting the running interview show into the long form format

1058
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: that we've been doing. If you guys are listening or

1059
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: watching this right now. I'd love for you guys to

1060
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: check out the Gabby Thomas video that's, you know, the

1061
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: one of the first that we've rolled out in our

1062
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: long form. But I'm so excited to be taking the

1063
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: Running interview show long form this year, taking it to YouTube.

1064
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: I am so excited because you guys don't realize, like

1065
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: I have such long conversations with every single person that

1066
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: I've run with, and because of the nature of short

1067
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: form content, I have to cut so much of that

1068
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: conversation out, and the conversations are gold like the conversations

1069
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: you have on the run with people, Like people are

1070
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: so vulnerable, they open up so much, they say things

1071
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: that they probably wouldn't in just a traditional sit down podcast.

1072
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: And it's not like I'm getting tea on anybody. That's like,

1073
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: not what I'm trying to say. But it's like people

1074
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: really open up and get comfortable with you, and I

1075
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: feel like I get to see people's true authentic self

1076
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: in a way that a traditional interview doesn't get to see.

1077
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: Tying that in.

1078
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: So you talk short so short form long form and

1079
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: it's like we talk about short form brain versus long

1080
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: form brain. And the way you need to think, in

1081
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: the way you need to produce content for a fifteen

1082
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: or ten minute plus video or for a podcast is

1083
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: totally different. Yeah, but what are your thoughts on that, well,

1084
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Speaker 3: just short form in general, like TikTok, like you're obviously

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Speaker 3: it's it's been huge for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the past few weeks have been crazy

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Speaker 1: and I have no idea what's going to happen, guys, Like,

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Speaker 1: it was hard for me because TikTok is like what

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Speaker 1: brought me, guys, you and like helped me connect with

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Speaker 1: you guys, and TikTok helped me find my voice, Like

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Speaker 1: TikTok helped me define my purpose in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: So when I found out that and now knowing that

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Speaker 1: we could potentially lose, that was definitely like a really

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Speaker 1: emotional experience. Like we bootstrapped this business on TikTok, and

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Speaker 1: of course I'm so blessed that we've been able to

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Speaker 1: translate onto different platforms like Instagram and YouTube, and that

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00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: we've grown such a loyal audience and you know, group

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00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: of you guys and we've got this runner gang. But

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it was really sad when I found out

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Speaker 1: about the TikTok News. It was a bummer, but I

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Speaker 1: do have to say, like again, glass have full girl.

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00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, when one problem happens, I'm literally already onto

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Speaker 1: the next, the solution, and like working hard at something else.

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Speaker 2: We're all in on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: We're all in on YouTube. We are all in on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and this is the year that we're gonna make YouTube

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Speaker 1: our primary platform. And in terms of short form brain

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Speaker 1: versus long form brain, I really love long form brain. Like.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just healthier for our minds to be

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Speaker 1: thinking in long form brain. Like for a while, it's

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Speaker 1: very hard for me to have like sit down conversations

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Speaker 1: like this, and I think that was because I was

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Speaker 1: filming so much content thinking short form first, you know.

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Speaker 1: But long form is just giving me the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: show those longer conversations that we already have on the run.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, I just want to show you guys more

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Speaker 1: and I hope you're just as excited as me about it,

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Speaker 1: because I think we're gonna have some really fun runs

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Speaker 1: in the future and post run conversations.

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Speaker 2: And post run high And I did go.

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Speaker 1: For a run today. It's snowed to New York and

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Speaker 1: it's freezing outside, so I ran three miles on the treadmill.

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Speaker 1: It was fine. I got through it. So take this

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Speaker 1: as you're signed to move your body today. And thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening. I know this was

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Speaker 1: a ramble, and I hope you guys enjoyed learning about me.

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Speaker 1: I promise we will do more deep dive episodes like

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Speaker 1: this in the future. I am an open book, so seriously,

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Speaker 1: if you guys have any questions about me or anything

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00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: that you want me to talk about, whether it's like

1131
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: my business or dive even deeper into my college internship experience.

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Speaker 1: I know I've gotten a lot of dms about that

1133
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: as well. Like there's so many things that we talked

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00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: about today that I know I could double click into

1135
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: for you guys, so please let me know. My inbox

1136
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: on Instagram is an open forum, and the comment section

1137
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: on YouTube please comment let us know there. Make sure

1138
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: you guys subscribe to my YouTube channel and follow me

1139
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: on TikTok and Instagram at Kate Max. I love you

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Speaker 1: guys so much. Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 2: Later again,