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Speaker 1: He is so funny. I did not know he was

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Speaker 1: and we talked about this. He comes down once a

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Speaker 1: comedy career is so storied you're gonna hear stories about

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Speaker 1: This is wild to me because he on stage he

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Speaker 1: is rocking man. Here is his highest streaming joke. It's

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Speaker 1: called Grandpa. My grandpa used to say, listen, if we

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Speaker 1: My grandpa used to say some weird things. He used

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Speaker 1: So I took her and Gary was playing and he

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Speaker 1: Conan is a big part of it all. These comedians

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. It's Gary mule Deer here

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Speaker 1: on the Bobby Cast. My introduction to you was the Opery. Honestly, yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're always asking me. Younger guys will ask me too,

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Speaker 1: say he actually knew how to play played? Yeah. Who

427
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,960
Speaker 1: was the carpenters? Carpenters twelve and thirteen years old? I

428
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 1: think that's what they were. Crazy. Yeah, and Steve Martin

429
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 1: was the magician. Was an act that never worked. Yeah,

430
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 1: and so you see that now were you performing? Did

431
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,360
Speaker 1: you do anything that night on stage? Not? That night

432
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 1: was the next night. I came back with the cook

433
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 1: and the guy that ran the place, Danny Will and

434
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 1: his wife was one of the back porch majority. They

435
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,400
Speaker 1: were a farm team of the Christian Minstrels. He said,

436
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 1: are you old enough to check I d s? I said, yeah,

437
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,439
Speaker 1: were you? Yeah? Okay, Steve lied a lot, I know,

438
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 1: I led all the time, I was actually twenty two.

439
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 1: I could check IDs. So he said, by the way,

440
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 1: Michael Martin Murphy's leaving the New Society and they're holding

441
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 1: you're holding auditions tonight, so write down people's names after

442
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have auditions. So after that, I wrote my

443
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: own name in and I went up on stage and

444
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 1: I silly thing I did. I just said, I'm new

445
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 1: I'm from South Dakota. I was just outside and I

446
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 1: saw some guy having an argument with a girl and

447
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: she's stabbed in the hands with a pineoneil a while

448
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 1: and she screamed and took off. I said, I'm just

449
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: from a small town. I took my hand on my

450
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: pocket and I had it wrapped, make it look like

451
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: like it was you. That. Yeah. For some reason, Brandy

452
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: Sparks thought it was great, and he said, that's it.

453
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 1: You're in. And I didn't know any of the songs.

454
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: We're going on the road in two days. Then we're

455
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 1: gonna go down and do the Miss Universe pageant in

456
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: Miami at at the Found Blue Hotel, and we're gonna

457
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 1: be with the Pat Boone as the host, and we're

458
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna do that, and then we're gonna do Jack Link

459
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: Letters Talent Scouts on NBC, and this is I didn't

460
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: know anything I did. You were in LA for a day,

461
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: like a day, two days, two days at this point,

462
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: two day, two days, the right time, at the right place,

463
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: at the right time. But you also had to do

464
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 1: the right thing at the right place at the right time.

465
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: I was funny. So we changed it to where I

466
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: would just introduced all the songs and made fun and

467
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: I just they always made me sure my microphone was

468
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: my microphone, from my guitar, my post vocal. We're off

469
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: until I learned the songs. And that's how I got

470
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: into it, just being at the right time. Hang tight,

471
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow, and we're

472
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: back on the Bobby Cast. If it hadn't happened. But again,

473
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you get yourself off credit because you

474
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: did the right thing at the right place, at the

475
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: right time. But if that hadn't happened so quickly, do

476
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 1: you think you to move back home to South Dakota.

477
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: I no, I wouldn't have gone to South Dakota. I'm

478
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: not sure what I'd have done. I just I wasn't

479
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: sure what I wanted to do even at that point,

480
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, I just I was so happy to be

481
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: into this group and it was so incredible. There's a

482
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: story that I love to tell. I'm gonna drop a

483
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: few names here, so keep your feet. We love the

484
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: name drop. Okay, well what's your feet because I'm gonna

485
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: tell you this one. So I was in the New

486
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: Society and we went down to the Miss Universe pageant,

487
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: and of course these girls hadn't been around guys for

488
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: like six months, and we're out at night. They would

489
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: sneak out of the rooms. We were out on the

490
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Speaker 1: beach with all the Miss Universe girls and one girl

491
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: that got runner up, Miss israel vb Israeli was her name,

492
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: they called her. She was runner up. I gave her

493
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: my phone number and I was in LA. About a

494
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: week later, I get a call from her and she

495
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: had been hired by hired by Israeli Bonds to be

496
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Speaker 1: a spokesperson for them, and she was put up at

497
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: the at the I think it was a big hotels

498
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: very close to somewhere around Westwood. I can't remember the

499
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: name of the hotel, but anyway, she had a suite,

500
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: so she said move in with me. So I moved

501
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: in with her. I was with her two nights and

502
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: I had to go on the road to play a

503
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Speaker 1: place called Bimbos up up in San Francisco and with

504
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: the New Society. I'm up there a day and I'm

505
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,239
Speaker 1: rehearsing in the afternoon at the bartender said, you got

506
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: a phone call, and it was her and she said, Gary,

507
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: you're stuff with the Bellman. I'm getting married. So that's

508
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: quite she wanted. She wanted somebody to had a lot

509
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: of money could bring her mother over. So I said, okay,

510
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: So I just got my stuff with with, you know,

511
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: from the Bellman. Now here we go. Ten years later,

512
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Speaker 1: I'm with Deborah Winger. We were together for a year

513
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: and a half. We were in Las Vegas gambling. We

514
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 1: have run out of money, we have no place to go,

515
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: so we go over to see Freddie Prince opening for

516
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: Andy Williams, thinking we could get something from you to

517
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: keep us awake. All Freddie her quay Lads, which opposite. Yeah, yeah,

518
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: So we did quay Lads and gambled. So that didn't work.

519
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: By the way, anyone listening out there, don't do this.

520
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: And uh so we gambled away all of our money

521
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: on quay lads, we went over to start Us Hotel.

522
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 1: I called Jim Hager from the Hagar Twins because he

523
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: was part of that group too that I forgot to

524
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: tell you about within Randy Sparks that night, the Hagar

525
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: Twins were there to send us one hundred dollars. So

526
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: Debra Winger and are standing in the start Us Hotel

527
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: waiting for one hundred dollars telegram to come with some

528
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: money to get home. And I'm walking around the place

529
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: and I'm looking for I'm looking for money that people

530
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: might have missed in the you know, in the pans

531
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Speaker 1: out of the slot machines, and I hear, hey Gary.

532
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: I look over and there's two ladies sitting there and

533
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: they're they're hardcore slot players because if we're wearing gloves

534
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: in those days, the stuff that dropped down was pretty dirty.

535
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: So they were in gloves, they had potbillies, they had

536
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: cigarettes hanging out of their mouth. It was missus Rael

537
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: and her mother and she says, hey, Mom, that's Gary.

538
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: Remember Gary. I told you about Gary. Mom says, yeah,

539
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: I remember Gary. And there never stopped playing, just talking

540
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: to a cigarettes hanging out of their mouth. So Debra

541
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: Winger waves to me and says, the money's here. I

542
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: walk over and she says, who is that? I said,

543
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: missus Rael nineteen sixty seven. She says, yeah, right, I said, boy,

544
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: do I have a story for you? And that's one

545
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: of my stories. So a couple of things you said,

546
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: I'm just remember to get back to them. But went

547
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: to watch Freddie Prince. Did you know him? I knew

548
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: him very well. In fact, I was on the first

549
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: HBO comedy special, Freddy Prince and Friends. I was one

550
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: of the five people on that show. So his death

551
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: obviously he died very young, Yes he did. That was

552
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: a horrible thing. Yeah, and apparently from what I have

553
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: because again being a fan of comedy, and you would

554
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: hear people just talk about how great he was in

555
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: his brief time. Yes, that he kind of came on

556
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: so strong and so fast. He was so good that

557
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: there was so much potential that we never really to

558
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: experience because he died so early. Exactly what was he

559
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: like as a performer? He was incredible, He was really

560
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: really good. And his best friend was Ellen Burski, who

561
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: was a comedian who actually was with him when that happened.

562
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: I mean like, Ellen's never gotten over that, and we

563
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know exactly why what happened. We know that Steve

564
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: Lebetkin didn't get on the comedy list one night, so

565
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: we went next door to the Hyatt, went up to

566
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: the roof and jumped off into the it's like twenty

567
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: stories down into the comedy store parking a lot with Freddie.

568
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: We never really knew exactly why he did that. I

569
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: think he was steering around. He always had guns. I

570
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: think it was almost accidental, maybe a rushing roulette kind

571
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: of thing. I don't know. I'm not sure even No,

572
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: even the people are really close to him really have

573
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: no idea why he did this. Was he dynamic on stage? Yes,

574
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: he was. There was something boy immediately you were drawn

575
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: to him when he walked up. There was just something

576
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: about him. It was just his accent, his just his

577
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: way he looked on stage. Everything about him was incredible. Yeah,

578
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: when you look back at other comedians that you've seen,

579
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned Letterman, Yeah you saw us first ever, said

580
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: who did you see? Really early on where you saw

581
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: them went day? They are so good, either in a

582
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: way of like adoration or like at times for me,

583
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: I'm like I get jealous. I'm like, man, they are

584
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: so good, Like, who was that for you? Steve Martin.

585
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: As soon as I saw him, I knew he was

586
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: going to do well. And we've had a place together.

587
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: I was him and I and Michael Johnson lived together

588
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: for a while. You live with Steve Martin? Yes, he

589
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: was my roommate and he was worked for the Smothers

590
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: Brothers show. I was too irresponsible to be at the

591
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: office every day, so I just would ever so often

592
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: send in stuff. So Steve has been on the show

593
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: about three four weeks. He has contributed nothing. He calls

594
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: me and says, I need a couple of things from

595
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: your act. I said sure, So he gave him. He

596
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: wrote him out and gave him to the guys that

597
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: worked perfectly. Tommy said, okay, you're in. But Tommy had

598
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: come to him and warned him he was gonna have

599
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: to let him go. That broke his writer's block after that,

600
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: so he always gives me credit for that. So I

601
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: broke his writer's block on the Smothers their show. Yeah,

602
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe you live with Steve Martin. Like to me,

603
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: I don't know who yours is because I'm gonna ask

604
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: you this. But if I were to do, like you know,

605
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: my top four greatest influences of all time on me

606
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: at who I not who I've met, because I haven't

607
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: met any. But it's like Letterman, because I saw a

608
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: guy who was a bit of reverent, didn't look like

609
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: what everybody else looked like. It was just odd, but

610
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: people were drawn to him like it's Letterman, it's Steve Martin.

611
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: It's both of those guys, and the fact that you've

612
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: had relationships with both of them. I was always attracted.

613
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: Besides Letterman, I was always hung out with funny musicians.

614
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: To be to this day, most of the funniest people

615
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: I know are musicians. Conan I mean, Roger Miller was

616
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: one of the fastest and quickest I've ever known. But

617
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: people like at Jack Benny was my influence who played

618
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: a violin me. He could really play. But to this day,

619
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: I noticed a bunch of musicians hanging around really funny.

620
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: A bunch of comics hang around is one guy trying

621
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: to top the other guy, and so I just kind

622
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: of out away from that. I was always with musicians.

623
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: That's we get through at the comedy story. But he

624
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: would go out to Delhi and talk and do stuff.

625
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: I would go out down to the strip and that's

626
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: where I met Robbie Krieger from the Doors Sore, I'm

627
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: at the Birds, who I met all these guys going

628
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: way back. I was always attracted the guys that played,

629
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: and to this day it's the same thing. Would you

630
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: play then, so when you dedicated your life to doing

631
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: more comedy, obviously kept playing because you have the guitars

632
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: bay here, But would you try to stay let's say,

633
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: in shape, playing wise in case you ever needed to

634
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: really play? No. I just always made sure I had

635
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: a joke ready and I could. I've never been above

636
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: the fifth re read. That's how I got true. Roger

637
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: Miller said, there's no money up there. He's right, but

638
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: I just use it. It's true, it's true. I see.

639
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: You got a picture of me right there with my

640
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: guitar on this end with us right now. You see

641
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: where it's all worn off up there at the top

642
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: of the all that's cocaine days from what though, just

643
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: slashing at my guitar. Yeah, yeah, like trying to make

644
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: a lot of noise to make it sound like I was,

645
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, trying to be a one man bands whatever.

646
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: Once I stopped doing drugs, I never did anything like

647
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: that again to that guitar. By the way, that guitar

648
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: now has say fifty six guitar players signed on it

649
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 1: on the front back of it. Yeah. I was at

650
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the opery I got a few weeks ago, and my

651
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: wife's grandfather came. He had never been to the opera before.

652
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: I talked to you before the show. It was the

653
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: last time that united seen each other, and Vince was playing.

654
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: You were playing, and I was telling him. I was like, Gary, hilarious,

655
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: you gonna love him. And he's like, yeah, I've never

656
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: never seen comedy the operate. It'd been a while since.

657
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: And so he came out and I remember him and

658
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: I both laughing so hard. Do you have two you

659
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: have forty years splitting us up and we were both

660
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: laughing so hard. Did you find that your comedy then,

661
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: let's say seventies eighties, did you find that it was

662
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: palatable even enjoyed by different ages or were you kind

663
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: of dialed in more to a certain demo. I always

664
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: worked with all ages, and I just I'm really. They

665
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: always said laughter is the best medicine, and then they

666
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: meant I think they met healthy laughter all my all,

667
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: my laughter is above the belt. And here's here's somebody

668
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: a good example. You take somebody like Andrew Dice Clay

669
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: and the late Bob Saget and they're on stage and

670
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: they're doing the best they can with the audience. There's

671
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: a certain decibel level that they are and then you

672
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: take somebody like Rider Rudner of myself whatever. When we're

673
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: up there at that same level, it's a different sound,

674
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: it's a different it's darker. The other the other comedy

675
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: is darker. Mine's always healthy. I love it when people

676
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: come help to me. And the mom says, I've never

677
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: laughed at my kids before. The kids say, we never laughed,

678
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: see dad laugh like that. They usually the kids hate

679
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: what the parents thinks funny and vice versa. And I

680
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: just seemed to bridge the gap I always have. And

681
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: that's what I was saying to it, like both of

682
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: us were just dying. There's the bit that you did

683
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: at the start of it. It It was I think you're

684
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: playing Ring of Fire, Yeah, and it was you know,

685
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: fell and you drop your guitar pick and the guitar.

686
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: Then you spend the next twenty thirty seconds just trying

687
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: to get the guitar pick out of the guitar exactly.

688
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: I was laughing so hard because that is a brave

689
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: segment to do, meaning you just gotta trust that the

690
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: awkwardness is going to translate into some people and they're

691
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: going to know that it's funny. That's right. It happened

692
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: to me, actually happened to me, and people were laughing

693
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: so hard. I just kept it in. So I've got

694
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: about I got about twenty good picks in that guitar

695
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: if you shake it and uh, and I put it in.

696
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: Ever since then, when I found the Ring of Fire,

697
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: it was perfect because of an ifill Ino right just

698
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: right in and it's oh no, and then right down

699
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm down. I'm down on my knees. So there's the

700
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: guitar mic right there, so I can tell a few

701
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: jokes and the guitar mic until I get them going

702
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: that I can raise get back up again and stew

703
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: the show. I've just always had a lot of fun

704
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: up there. I'm just and there's certain things that I've

705
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's not many things that I've I

706
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: can't do anymore. They've been doing for sixty years. Do

707
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: you still right. I still do. I still do. Do

708
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: you have every all the jokes written down somewhere? Though

709
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I do, I have some. I just fact they're doing

710
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: an exhibit of all my old stuff at the opera.

711
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: They're going to start putting it one of those glass cases.

712
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: So I got a suitcase full of stuff to take

713
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: to him. And I've got a guitar case from the

714
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies. There has so many stickers on it.

715
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: That's a set lists that I just put on it.

716
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I noticed one that I just found yesterday. I've stayed

717
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: with Randy Hart. He was my favorite, my best friend.

718
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: Who's the staff keyboard on the opera. I met him

719
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: when he was Roger Miller's music director in seventy seven.

720
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: That's another story. Anyway, I've got this guitar case and

721
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: I noticed something that I said a long time ago.

722
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: I said, it's not who you know in the business,

723
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: it's just knowing if they are really in a meeting.

724
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten that completely. I saw another one and said, bigger,

725
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: bigger things and never been falling through lately, I've had

726
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: some things fall through. I never dreamed I even get

727
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: close to stuff like that. But I have all over

728
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: my guitar. I've got a lot of stuff. Yeah, I've

729
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: been writing forever and I write. Eighty percent of the

730
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: stuff is my own. The other twenty percent. Maybe I'll

731
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: hear a joke and I and I tailor it to

732
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: my to what I like. I've found a joke here

733
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: just now that I rewrote that. Now I have to

734
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: end my show with. I can't follow with anything. It

735
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: used to be I would follow in my show with.

736
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: A couple months ago, it was a knock at the door.

737
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: I answered it. It It was huge Jehovah's witnesses. I invited

738
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: him in and he said out of the couch. I said, well,

739
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about? And they said,

740
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: we don't know. We've ever made it this far before.

741
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: That's what I always ended the show with. But now

742
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: I just do that with the first thing when I

743
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: dropped my pick because I've got this new joke. Now

744
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: that's just ridiculous and it works so well, I just

745
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: I end with it. You know, I've been with Johnny

746
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Mathis in the orchestra now for thirty years. Going In

747
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: the middle of his show, Johnny comes out and does

748
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. I come out and do thirty. He

749
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: comes back and does an hour of fifteen. I've been

750
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: doing that forever, And you can trace everything I do

751
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: back to the game of golf. When I came out

752
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: of rehab, I needed a new addiction, and in nineteen

753
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: eighty seven, I took up golf at forty seven years old.

754
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: And everything I do now or what it is, we

755
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: can trace it back the Opry Nashville. Now, anything that

756
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: I do came out of celebrity golf tournaments. It just

757
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: that's how it happened. So I want to go back

758
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: a little bit too. Being in South Dakota, you're he

759
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: lived on a ranch. Yeah, you had a theater, your

760
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: mom wash you around. My mom was around, Okay, so

761
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: your mom and dad they were both there, yes, And

762
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: what did they first of all to you? What kind

763
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: of relationship did you have with them? And then secondly,

764
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: what did they think of a kid from South Because

765
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm from Arkansas and my dreams were like aliens to

766
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: people there because nobody left. Yeah, what did your parents

767
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: think about your dreams of music or leaving to do

768
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: something creative rather than staying home. Well, I failed at

769
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: everything else. They weren't really sure that it was going

770
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: to happen. In fact, I just kind of took off.

771
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: I ran away twice from run away from home twice,

772
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: once when I was a sophomore and once when I

773
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: was a senior in high school. But I also I

774
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: have to tell you this is how I lost the

775
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: movie theater. My dad took it back. He gave me

776
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: the theater as a wedding prison to run for, and

777
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: to give you five hundred dollars a month to run it.

778
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: And this is what happened. This is how I lost

779
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: the movie theater. If every ember Ilford Hitchcock's movie The Birds, Okay,

780
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: well but the birds are like so if you were

781
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: sitting in the audience down below the balcony watching the birds,

782
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: what would you do if somebody like myself and my

783
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: assistant manager threw four live pigeons zone into the audience. Yeah,

784
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean I would, Yeah, yeah, that would freak me out.

785
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: Well that's what I did. Yeah, that's what we did.

786
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: It was like live live action, way ahead of your time.

787
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: My dad took back just the worst. Do you still

788
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: live in South Dakota? I still live in Spirit Fish.

789
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm back in Spirit fisht I had no idea you

790
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: played the Opery. I mean, I feel like I see

791
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: you play the opera a lot. Do you come in

792
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: every time for the memory, every time for it? Yeah?

793
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: I do. I come in from one month, one week,

794
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: a month, Yeah, I do. I'm blessed to have this.

795
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I just about break even. It's incredible. Whenever

796
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: you were invited, not inducted, to different things, obviously, whenever

797
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: you were invited to be a member of the Grand

798
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: Old Opery, did you sense in any way that was coming. No,

799
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: I did not. It was a Henry show and we

800
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: were under the under the guys they were doing to

801
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: do a new circle show called The Comedy of the Opry,

802
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: and they wanted to interview us about the comedy and

803
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: the Opery, and so it was all set up. They

804
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: had cameras set up the whole thing, but they actually

805
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: they were they weren't doing anything. Marty Stewart was asking

806
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: us questions, and at the end he said a lot

807
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: of times about it. He says, by the way, the

808
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: Grand ol Opry members would like to invite you both

809
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: to be members. We had no idea. I really did not.

810
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: I had no idea we're going to be inducted or

811
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: invited even Yeah, how did you create a relationship with

812
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: Nashville and the opery At the beginning, I think being

813
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: on TNN. TNN was a natural fit for me. I

814
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: got I'd done everything, I'd done all the clubs. I

815
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: wanted to get out of clubs. I wanted to get

816
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: into other stuff. So I decided to go and do

817
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: cruises because the they were families and they paid a

818
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: lot of money. And I got that. By the way,

819
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: I was playing a golf from it with the Charlotte

820
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: Hornets and my partner was a guy was a guy

821
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: that was I didn't know anything much about him, and

822
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: about halfway through playing golf, he said to me, Gary,

823
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: how come you don't do cruises? I said, he don't

824
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: pay anything. He says, how much do you want? I thought,

825
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: oh great? I said who are you? He said, I'm

826
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: the head of Royal Crimpin Entertainment. I said, okay, I

827
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: just doubled my price. He said all right. I thought,

828
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: oh great. He said, well you know you'll get more

829
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: of it works out than it did. And I did

830
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight cruises. Wow. So I did

831
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: that and also started working on TNN. And it was

832
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: a natural fit for me. In fact, roy aycoff Aycoff

833
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: asked me to do the first opera. He because he

834
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: saw me on TNN. I think I did sixty something

835
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: of shows with with Ralph Emory and I did all

836
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: the other watch Off Emory all the time, Crook and

837
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: Chase anything. Yeah, I did him forever. They are all

838
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: those shows in Nashville. It was perfect for me, perfect fit.

839
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: And they said, oh, you're a country comedian. Well, I said,

840
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I guess I am. I never thought about it that way,

841
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, I do country music and I worked well

842
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: with families and That's what I've done forever. And I

843
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: was on the last year and a half a Hehaw

844
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: That was weird too. That was great. That was I

845
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: loved it. You know, I want to get to hell

846
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: on a second with the backtrack. So you say country,

847
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: you say country comedian. Were in LA? Were you like

848
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: the country guy? That was kind of yeah? I was.

849
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: I always wore a cowboy hat and cowboy boots. I

850
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: always had a guitar, yeah, and I wore unusual, unusual clothes.

851
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Did you play into that a lot too? I did, know.

852
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: I just wore just wore boy wore, and I have

853
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: the guitar that I'm giving them for this exhibition. There

854
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: were NBC tried to do a country show once. They

855
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: tried to do a country show. What do you mean

856
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: country show? And like, well they put me Carl Perkins

857
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: with a couple of other people as regulars on it.

858
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: And they tried to do a half hour country Western

859
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: show on NBC and like comedy or music, comedy in music,

860
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: so like he haw, yeah it was and it only

861
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: lasted about one season. But I remember I wanted I

862
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: wanted an unusual guitar, so I always played Japanese copies

863
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: of j two hundreds made in Mexico. There were one

864
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. They looked like they looked a good guitar,

865
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: but they weren't, and I had them at that time.

866
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: Shaneric Ducks came out all over the country. It was

867
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: like it had a name of what it was, like

868
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: oatmeal and then a bar code. Right, so I had

869
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: him put make me a guitar like that. I hadn't

870
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: painted white, I hadn't put a bar code on it

871
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: and guitar across the front of it. And then instead

872
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: of having Fender or Gibson, up at the top of

873
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: the neck. I had n't put Ralph's Supermarket, and I

874
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: played that thing for twenty two years. That's the guitar

875
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm giving them now for the exhibit. But yeah, I've

876
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: played all kinds of different things that I never thought

877
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: much about it. My guitar strap always had a quiver

878
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: on the back with arrows in it, so ever so

879
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: often I would just take out shoot into the audience,

880
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: and then I started doing the chicken thing, you know.

881
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I always Yes, I had three hundred pounds

882
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: of props at one time, and a partner Mulder and

883
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: Moondog Medicine show from seventy to seventy five. We were

884
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: pretty unusual in what way musically and skit wise and

885
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: everything we did. We did incredible parodies on commercials. We

886
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: did historical things which people would know now. You know,

887
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: Ben Franklin running into John Hancock and we're upset because

888
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: Betsy Ross has got a flag that looks like a

889
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: holiday and towel doesn't look anything like it should. Things

890
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: like that. But we did all these things and it

891
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: was pretty amazing and it went very fast. It went

892
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: really fast, and we were way ahead of our time.

893
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: We did in concert. We did Jack Parr when he

894
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: came back on the air, and Jack Parr came back

895
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: on the air. Mulder and Mundog were his favorites, and

896
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: we also were Heffner's favorites. We played every Playboy club

897
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: probably a dozen times, and one night I was playing

898
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: a Playboy club. We got through with our act. A

899
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: guy comes up to me and says, someone wants to

900
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: meet you in the back. I walked back. It was

901
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: Jack Benny who shook my hand and said, young man,

902
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: you have the potential of my timing. And this is

903
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: when I had an afro. It was like two bushel baskets.

904
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: You could hardly see my eyes. I got a picture

905
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: of him and I on a TV show together the

906
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: next day in Chicago. It was Gay IRV Cups and

907
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Eckers Cup. Anyway, we had a date day day TV

908
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: show I'm on with my idol. He was my influence

909
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: because I grew up with radio TV until I was

910
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: a senior in high school. So that was something to

911
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: me I never forgot. And I think a lot of

912
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: it is my timing, you know, But again I hear you.

913
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: I think timing is a big part of it. But

914
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: if you hadn't had whatever, that innate whatever, you could

915
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: be in the right place at the right time forever.

916
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: But if you're not doing the right thing and it

917
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work out, that's right, the Bobby Cast. We'll

918
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to the Bobby Cast. Just

919
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: thinking about your mule deer. They called you that because

920
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: you have to literally spot mule deer. Yeah, really the

921
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: yead I dropped the bus and with the B B

922
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: B stop the bandag, what's going on? I'd be spotting

923
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: mule here with the spotlight. I had a Chrysler Chrysler

924
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: engine in a old for four or five seat Limmo

925
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: and I would drive that and I was always high,

926
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: so people wouldn't even notice in the band that I

927
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: hadn't been to bed yet. We'd drive in one place

928
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: the other and then I do a show, get back

929
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: and drive again. I go to bed about every three days,

930
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: and it will be the host band and be the

931
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: guy that ran the show. How did you not die?

932
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean it all. It took two times.

933
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: I went into tensive care in eighty seven and from

934
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: from a wreck or overdose. Okay, but okay, harvest comes

935
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: to the best. I almost had a stroke and almost

936
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: had a heart attack, and the guy said to me

937
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: when I came out of if you ever do this again,

938
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna die, so you better go upstairs. So I

939
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: went upstairs in UH Saint Joseph's Hospital in Burbank, right

940
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: behind the NBC, and stayed in there for thirty days.

941
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: I went right to the heroin Attics because I knew

942
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: they had all the chocolate, and I stayed in there

943
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: for thirty days and gained about thirty pounds. Came out

944
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: and I remember Randy Hart, my friend Randy, who was

945
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: Steve Warner's UH music director at the time. They were

946
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: playing in a a place I wanted to come over and

947
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: see him, So I went over to see them. I

948
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: was house sitting at the time. I'd been on the

949
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: rehab ten days. They left, they left town, and I

950
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: went back to the house, house sitting, and I thought

951
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: to myself, I can probably do a half a GRAMMU

952
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: won't hurt anything. Because I was trouble writing and doing

953
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: and making a song work. And there was a guy

954
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: in the in the San Fernando Valley that roamed with

955
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: the Pager in those days, and he wasn't there in

956
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. It was like dominoes. It was free. He

957
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: was never late. He brought me half a gramma cocaine.

958
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I put out two lines. I snorted one. Boom my heart.

959
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I hit the floor. I remember crawling over to my

960
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: friends phoned I was out sitting for called ninety one,

961
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: crawled out the curb and waiting for him to come

962
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: and get me. Ironically, when I got into intensive care

963
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: that night, it was the same guy that had had

964
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: me before I rehab and he said now. I remember

965
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: him saying, if we can slow his heart down, he's

966
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: got a chance. And when I came out of it,

967
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: he said, now do you believe me? I said yeah,

968
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: And I never did it again. That was it. Yeah,

969
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: and that's why I took up golf. I gave up

970
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: one four letter word for another one. I gave a

971
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: coke for golf. Yeah. I saw you at pell Beach

972
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, you were playing and you know they

973
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: have everybody do something. Yeah, And I didn't even know

974
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: you were there. And I'm sitting in there and I

975
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: just met Ron Rivera, the head coach of the Cane.

976
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, and everybody was super cool. The first time

977
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: I've ever been invited to go up there, and I'm

978
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: looking around and going, man, I kind of don't belong,

979
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: like these are really famous people. Yes, but everybody was

980
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: so nice. I've never been to an event like that

981
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: where there were so many famous people and the role

982
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: was you better be awesome where you're not gonna get

983
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: invited back. And then they're like, here's Gary Mulder and

984
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Gary's here, yeah, And then you get

985
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: your guitar and you crushed and you crushed the room.

986
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: And I wasn't even supposed to be on that. I

987
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: brought my guitar. I would be with me. Usually I

988
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: do the volunteer show on Thursday, but I couldn't exactly

989
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: go with work somewhere else. But uh yeah, I remember

990
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: my first celebrity golf tournament was the LPGA. Well, actually

991
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: I was playing golf how to Balbo and Encino in

992
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: San Fernando Valley and I played just a public of course,

993
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: and Smokey Robinson came up to me and said, have

994
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: you ever done a celebrity golf tournament? I said, I

995
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: don't know what they are, so I'm gonna take you

996
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: to one. So he took me to Roy Clarks and

997
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: that was my first one, but my biggest term. My

998
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: first big tournament was the Craft Nabisco, which was the

999
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: LPGA thing the ladies did. It was originally the Diner Shore.

1000
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I remember the guy Terry Wilcox calling me the day

1001
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: of my practice round and saying, Gary, You're going off

1002
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: at ten thirty with Joe Damagio, John Havlicek and H

1003
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: and Johnny Unitis. Is that okay? This was my first

1004
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: So one of the greatest baseball players ever. Yeah, huge Celtics,

1005
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: like best basketball player and then a crazy famous NFL player,

1006
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: the big, biggest every Yeah. And that was my first time.

1007
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: I hit the worst drive in my life. I think

1008
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: it went about thirty yards. But I've been a Yankee

1009
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: fan ever since I was nine years old. Was Dimajo awesome? Oh?

1010
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: I got to know him really well. He became my pal.

1011
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: Every time I would do three we did three different

1012
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: tournaments together. We'd have dinner together every night the night

1013
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: before I got to I've Got I've Got the only

1014
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: National League baseball signed by Joe Dimajol. I brought the

1015
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: wrong baseball one time. He said, you went me ever

1016
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: signed something and he said, don't ever show this to

1017
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: anybody till after I'm gone. I have a National League

1018
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: ball signed to me by Joe Demanjio. But I gain

1019
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: And remember one day out on the course, we were

1020
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: waiting for a group ahead of us that were kind

1021
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: of slow, and he said to me, you know why

1022
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: I like you. I said what he said, You've never

1023
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: asked about her Marilyn Monroe. Yep, yeah, that's one of

1024
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: the things he said. Man, I remember getting chills when

1025
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: he said that to me, and he said, I mean

1026
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: that you've never said a word. And that's I appreciate that.

1027
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Anybody that ever did boom out of his life, it

1028
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: had to be a different time without people having cell

1029
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: phones and documenting everything that was happening everywhere. Because just

1030
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: even Demaggio, like the guy world famous, the hit has

1031
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: the hit record for just the guy, and if we'd

1032
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: had phones, everything he would have ever done would have

1033
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: been documented. How is it so different back then? Oh,

1034
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: it was so different. I mean somebody might have had

1035
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: a camera, a little disposable camera with him, or somebody

1036
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: might have taken a picture, maybe send it to you

1037
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: or something. I have no pictures of my band of

1038
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: the carols opened for all those acts back in the

1039
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: back in the sixties. I have no, no, nothing from

1040
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: the news society that I was in. I have very

1041
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: few things for Mulder and Moondog. I just things happen

1042
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: all the time. I go back and I think, oh

1043
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: my god, anything we had, just all the people that

1044
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: I met, all the people I worked with, and no,

1045
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: it's totally different. Well, the only thing I really like,

1046
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: the only thing I really like right now that I

1047
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: really like I realized I liked about the seventies. I

1048
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: never lost a phone, because there's nothing worse now we

1049
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: can't find our phone. I have a friend not too

1050
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: long ago, Will Shriner. He's a great comedian. He has

1051
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: had his own show for years. I remember riding with

1052
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: him one time to a golf course. He's talking to

1053
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: his wife and he's driving and he's going like this,

1054
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: and he's looking, he's pulling up things. I said, Will

1055
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: what he says, my phone? My phone, you're on it.

1056
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: Will find your air, you're on it. You're talking on

1057
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: your phone right now. I mean that's I see things

1058
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: like that. When I get spam calls, I just usually

1059
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: say things like, you're on the air, or I'll say

1060
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: things click, We're all seeing like Lawrence Country Shrif's department.

1061
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: We hold, can you hold? And they go away and

1062
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you gotta have something to say. Yeah, we

1063
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: interrupt this interview to bring you a message from our sponsor.

1064
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: This is the Bobby Cast. I was looking for your documentary.

1065
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know wasn't getting released. Told released to late

1066
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: this summer. I was all over trying to find it,

1067
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: like a month ago. Just got sold. So and that's

1068
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: why I bring up Conan because I haven't seen the documentary,

1069
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: but I was like looking for anything I could get. Yeah,

1070
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: and so I saw that Conan was a part of it.

1071
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: Starts it off yet Yeah, so what is the documentary?

1072
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: When does it come out? And how do we watch it?

1073
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Five years before COVID's two guys came up. We said,

1074
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: they've been fans of mine for twenty for forty years.

1075
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: They were both in their fifties, since they were ten.

1076
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: So we're going to do a documentary on you. I said, Okay.

1077
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: Then I start following on all the scent, everything you've

1078
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: got that you did, TV shows, anything you have that

1079
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: we can that we can we can transfer over and

1080
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: we'll go out and we'll do with all the places

1081
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: you played in the early days. We're going to do

1082
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: this whole thing. And he said, the main thing we're

1083
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna do is we're going to find a guy to

1084
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: play you when you were young, a guy to play

1085
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: wh when you were at middle age, and then you

1086
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: will play in yourself now. And h it's pretty amazing.

1087
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: It's Scott, It's Scott Conan. It's got Jay Leno, it's

1088
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: got Steve Martin, it's Goot Kevin Nealon, It's got the

1089
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: Carrott top. I was a big because I was a

1090
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: big influence on him. It's Goot Callis Cooper. It's got

1091
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: Vince Kill, Ammy Grant, a lot of different people doing it.

1092
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: And it's called Show Businesses My Life. But I can't

1093
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: prove it. And it's uh, it's done great at every

1094
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: screening it's gone to. It's it's one all but two times.

1095
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: It's one best best comedy documentary. And I'm pretty pretty

1096
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: happy with most of it. How do we get to

1097
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: see it though? One I Finally it's going to start

1098
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: streaming on Netflix and Hulu and everything else again beginning

1099
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: of September. It was sold somebody called Comedy Dynamics, who

1100
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: have who put out a lot of different comedy things,

1101
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: and they're just telling me, the producers just what you relax,

1102
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: we got a great deal. It's going to be really good.

1103
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: And I say, okay, So I'm just wait and see

1104
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: and people love it. Jay Leno called me after he'd

1105
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: watch it, said, this is the first Comedians documentary that

1106
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: I never fast forward through. I went back and looked

1107
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: at some of its again, so that to me, it

1108
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: was pretty good. I can't wait to see it. Well,

1109
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: I hope we all get to see it. I'm gonna

1110
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: send you. I'm gonna send you. I'll consume it immediately.

1111
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it to you. Yeah, because I'm I'm

1112
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: a massive fan. I was just looking forward to the fan,

1113
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: not even that you were doing this. I was just

1114
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: trying to find it on a Sunday because I think

1115
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: about you all the time, day and night, and so

1116
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: as I was searching for it, I was like, day,

1117
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: I can't find it. And then I finally saw that

1118
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: it was a come out out till the summer. That's

1119
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: why I can't sleep. That's it. That's me. You see

1120
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: that little thing go by your window, that's where it is.

1121
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: A couple other things. I just want to bring up

1122
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: a few people. I don't know if you've met them

1123
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: or not. I'm sure and you're you know travels Frank Sinatra.

1124
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but Frank Sinatra story. I'm the only guy

1125
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: I've ever worked with. Frank Sinatra and Willie Nilson in

1126
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: the same night. I got a call three am from

1127
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: he went at the Golden Nugget and back in my

1128
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: proving marching days, I was still up at three am.

1129
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: He said, I'm opening the Crystal Ballroom downtown at the

1130
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Golden Nugget. I'm going to have Frank Sinatra's going to

1131
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: go open, do forty minutes at the orchestra. We're going

1132
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: to close the curtain and they're going to strike the

1133
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: orchestra and set up Willie's band. He's going to do

1134
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: two hours. Who wants you to go out and do

1135
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: in front of the curtain whatever, how much time we need.

1136
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: So the first night Frank did the show and he

1137
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: stayed over to watch me and little of Willie. So

1138
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 1: after after they opened up and Willie goes into a song,

1139
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm walking backstage and Jillie, who was Sinatra's guy, says,

1140
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: the man wants to see you. So I walk over

1141
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: to Sinatra and he puts his hand on my shoulder

1142
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: and he says, you're a very unusual young man. And

1143
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: then I look at Jillie and says, I'd say kid,

1144
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: I walked away. That's the only thing. But I got

1145
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: to know Barbara really well. I did twenty six Sinatra

1146
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: tournaments with Barbara Sinatra's Children's Foundation, so I got to

1147
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: know her really well. And I never got to see

1148
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: him again, never met him again, but Tom Dreeson opened

1149
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: for him for fourteen years. You know, Dreeson was with

1150
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: him a lot. But yeah, that was my deal with Sinatra.

1151
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: Ray Charles, Ray Charles, Randy Hart, who's the keyboard player

1152
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: now at the Opera. He was by guy at the time,

1153
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: just him and I went out and h we played

1154
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: there's a thing with Ray Charles. You might have ever

1155
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: heard it, but when Race who Ray fires his guitar

1156
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: player in the middle, that's Randy's recording on a little

1157
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: cassette sitting in a booth with with a with a

1158
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: girl and he punched the little cassette in That was

1159
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: That was the night we were working with him, him

1160
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: and we did Frank Sinatra at there, but then we

1161
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: did uh Roy Orbison, and we did Merle Haggard. We

1162
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: did all three of those at her at the time,

1163
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: but that was Randy's recording. You hear that. Did you

1164
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: ever meet or spending time with Andy Kaffin? Yes, Andy

1165
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: Kaufin was the only time I ever saw Andy Brake

1166
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: was when he was that character with a character and

1167
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: he had to brows on his on his arms and talk.

1168
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: You know, he had the character and ever went out

1169
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: of it, never came out of it. We went to

1170
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: the restroom together at the improv and we were standing

1171
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: to the urinals and nobody'd ever seen nobody had ever

1172
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: seen Andy break. And we're standing there and Kaufman looks over.

1173
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: He says, Yielder, how are you doing in his regular voice,

1174
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: good man, He says you, I've never heard you talk

1175
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: like this. He said, this is it. And we've been

1176
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: back and finished our business, went back out and he

1177
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: was that guy again, and then I never never saw

1178
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: him break. That's the way time ever. Yeah, that's one

1179
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: great memory of Andy Kaufman. Yeah, it's like you have

1180
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: a really great memory of Frank Sinatra one. Yeah, one

1181
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: of Kaufman. Yeah, and you did a Letterman, you said twice,

1182
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: but two different versions of the show. I did. Yeah,

1183
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: I did, probably Tana Beach, what kind of guy was

1184
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Dave when when the show wasn't on and the show

1185
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: wasn't on. He's very private man, very private. I remember

1186
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: out of all those shows, maybe going back after the show,

1187
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: had the show, had dinner with him once before the

1188
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: show at one of the shows, and went up maybe

1189
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: two times after the US after the shows. Because David,

1190
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: as soon as the show's over, he's back watching it,

1191
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: every bit of it, to see what he liked, what

1192
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: he didn't like. He was never satisfied. I never saw

1193
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: David satisfied completely. He'd walk off stage would he would

1194
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: do a great show, but there was always something he

1195
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: did he didn't like it. It was the same way

1196
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: with watching the show afterwards. And pretty soon it got

1197
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: to where I think, you know, that was what I

1198
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: felt like, I'd say, Dave, and I see after the show,

1199
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 1: I just kind of knew that he was more comfortable being,

1200
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: you know, saying he got he almost lived there. Yeah,

1201
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: it was lit at the studio. You know what about

1202
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: Dolly early Dolly like you guys younger. Wow, I got

1203
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: a call to they're gonna do Dolly at the Riviera.

1204
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: She can make the most money anyone's ever made, more

1205
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: than Sinatra. They're gonna put just Dolly on the on

1206
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the thing, on the thing, and they're gonna have just Dolly.

1207
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: And she was getting three and fifty thousand, and they

1208
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: wanted me to open for for thirty five hundred. I said, okay.

1209
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: So the place is packed every night. You hear the

1210
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: announcer going to gentlemen, welcome to Dolly Parton show. That

1211
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: people just screaming and yelling and clapping, and you hear

1212
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: and her please welcome Gary Guilder, which nobody ever heard.

1213
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: And maybe ten people out of the audience knew who

1214
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: I was. And I get out to the audis and

1215
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: it took me about ten fifteen minutes to get him

1216
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: settled down because they were shocked to see me walk out.

1217
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: I got no building at all. And but it's funny

1218
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: that Dolly was just so down home offstage backstage. I

1219
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: met her the first day. She was ironing her own

1220
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: clothes in her dress room when I walked by and

1221
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: I saw this, I saw her. She was just this

1222
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: little tiny thing, without a wig, and it took me

1223
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: a minute to say, Oh, Dolly, and she's come on in, Gary,

1224
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: Gary Muller, I love your stuff, Come on in. We

1225
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: talked and became friends. But she was just so natural.

1226
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: Just so I remember one thing that happened with that show.

1227
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: I remember Mike Douglas came out on a Friday night

1228
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: with his wife to Dolly the sag Award and they

1229
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: were going to do it in the midd her show.

1230
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: And so Mike, Mike Douglas is standing at the counter

1231
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: to check encounter at the hotel because his wife didn't

1232
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: like the room and she's bored, and she's playing a

1233
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: progressive slot machine in the middle of the lobby and

1234
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: she got twenty bucks one or to play it and

1235
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: it went off and she had thirty thousand dollars and

1236
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: guys have been playing that machine for weeks and weeks

1237
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: and weeks, and she goes ooh, and they said, we

1238
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: got to put the money in these little trays, and

1239
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to touch that stuff. So they put

1240
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: the money into trays for it, and now you have

1241
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: to come over to they have to go over to

1242
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: the you know, to the cage. We have to ride

1243
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: out of check and we do this all this stuff

1244
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: and taxes, and really he said, yeah, you have to

1245
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: do that, so she would just say okay, all right,

1246
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: going over and doing all this stuff and like oh geez,

1247
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: and hearing her that night saying, you can't believe what

1248
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I had to go through to win thirty thousand dollars.

1249
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. I got three final questions for you,

1250
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: all right. Number one, why are you still going so hard?

1251
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't. I can't stop. Everybody I've

1252
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: seen that stop can't get going again. Plus I love it.

1253
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: I just am so happy to be right here where

1254
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: I am. This is where I'm supposed to be. I

1255
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: just know this is where I'm supposed to be. So

1256
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: I just I don't think I'm gonna quit. This is

1257
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: not one of the three. But do you ever think

1258
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: about moving to Nashville? Yeah? I have, but a humidity

1259
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: is really bad for my hair. How good of a

1260
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: golfer are you? And where are you at your best?

1261
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: I was at my best when I was probably in

1262
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: my middle fifties. I was never very good. I got

1263
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: down to a fourteen once. Now I hit from the

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Speaker 1: red tees because I'm over. I'm the oldest person ever

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Speaker 1: re inducted into the offering, by the way, I think

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Speaker 1: at eighty three years old. Wow, I think I'm the

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Speaker 1: oldest one. But now I hit from the Red Teas.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm about a twenty from the Red Teas,

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Speaker 1: from the White Teas, I'm about a twenty five from

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Speaker 1: the Gold Tees. I'm probably about a thirty from the

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Speaker 1: Blue Tees. It's probably at thirty five and from the

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Speaker 1: Black Teas. I just want to hit it past the reds. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: way it is. You still enjoy playing I'd love I do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do. And I like scrambles because they don't have

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Speaker 1: to drive. They'll never use my drive. I'm a pretty

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Speaker 1: good chipper and putter. Yeah. And does that anything to

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Speaker 1: do with this new CDAF coming out in three months.

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I thought i'd better put it in. Well,

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Speaker 1: I am. We're gonna get to that in a second

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Speaker 1: because the documentary in the summer, and I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: to the CD here in just a minute. Are there

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Speaker 1: any Are there any jokes you don't use anymore you'd

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00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: like to pass on to me. I have jokes that

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I can't use. It anymore, Like, what give me one

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Speaker 1: that I can now use that I will always know

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00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: this was a Gary Mule deer joke, but it's not

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Speaker 1: politically correct. Okay, well then I can't do it. You

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Speaker 1: can't do it. One thing about you're going to see

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Speaker 1: in this documentary is they act out some of my jokes.

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Speaker 1: You hear my voice and they're mouthing they acted with.

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Speaker 1: Actually will see the joke and hear my voice. I'm

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00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: trying to think and I'm not going to say the joke.

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Speaker 1: Did you do it when I saw you a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, if you operate it was about a dog. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the final joke about a dog. My final joke

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Speaker 1: is about a parrot. M Okay, I guess the dog,

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Speaker 1: or it's like the dog. I do a dog song

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Speaker 1: for the kids, I do a pit bulls. Yeah. There's

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Speaker 1: also like, I remember what it was. I want to

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Speaker 1: repeat your joke, but I remember being so funny. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't even I remember the parrot one, now I

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Speaker 1: got I'm not gonna spoil it. I remember the parrot one.

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Speaker 1: The parrots saying something that's a pizzet parrot. Yeah, obviously

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: parrots say something in jokes, right, Mike, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: the live or the CD. I guess it's not really CD,

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: but yes, that new album, Yeah, a new album. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Where have you did you recorded or have you not recorded?

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Speaker 1: Ard it? Live? You did a place just before COVID,

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00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: a place called Buck Tower Gardens and uh in Florida.

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Speaker 1: And now we hadn't worked for a while, myself, my

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00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: production guy, and we just decided to just do the

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Speaker 1: show that night for the heck of it. And it

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Speaker 1: turned out to be real good. I didn't know how

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Speaker 1: good I was going to be because we hadn't worked

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Speaker 1: much because of COVID, and it just turned out really well.

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Speaker 1: There's uh. I just had. I've got what I do

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Speaker 1: I have when I'm on the road in my show,

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Speaker 1: I had I traveled with the Duck and Cover Band.

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00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: That's the name of Mike production companies, Duck and Cover Productions.

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Speaker 1: I the Duck and Cover Band. What the Duck Cover

1321
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Speaker 1: Band is or tracks of the Opry band? The best guys.

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Speaker 1: I've got eight Bears on drums, I've got all these

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Speaker 1: great band parks on guitar, I got Steve Warner, I've

1324
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Speaker 1: got I've got everybody that say there's nobody with you.

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Speaker 1: Everybody no y. I tell people people at night, you're

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Speaker 1: going to hear them, you're not going to see them.

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Speaker 1: And then I have empty instruments on stage. So when

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Speaker 1: it because the guitar break boom, that spot like goes

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Speaker 1: the guitar blake, which is ledd and flashes. If I

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Speaker 1: want a bass solo, it's over here. Got an empty,

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Speaker 1: empty set of drums. I got empty everything is all

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Speaker 1: all the guy you just don't see them, but to

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Speaker 1: the best tracks, and they tell people you're gonna really

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Speaker 1: hear good players tonight, and I do that. When does

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Speaker 1: this album come out? We're gonna hope, We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: it out probably in October. We're hoping to do it right.

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Speaker 1: I want to put some some good artwork and some things.

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Speaker 1: And I've got three or four CDs I've had for

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: years that still sell. I don't know why they still

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01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: I got one that they did at the Ice House

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Speaker 1: and Pasadena back in seventy seventies xits. For years, it

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: was I was getting reseisuals maybe ten dollars a month.

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01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: Now it's like three or four hundred, and I'm going, like,

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: what in the world it's all from the opera exposure.

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Speaker 1: That's all it is. Hey, Mike giving the unsk gary

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01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: before you go. I mean I could do three hours

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Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, what is your shortest joke? My shortest

1348
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: joke is, uh, let's see my short joke is um.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, god, you know I've got I got some

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Speaker 1: really short ones. Um um um. Guy calls up his buses.

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm sick. His buzz is, what's wrong? The guys is

1352
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: and old glaucoma. He's just what's that? The guys really

1353
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: can't see my ass coming into work today. That's a

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Speaker 1: twenty second joke. That's the one I was thinking out

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Speaker 1: the step. But yeah, I don't know why I thought. Dog,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's his wildest I yet. I mean, that's

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01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: that's that's over the top for me almost. That's when

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Speaker 1: I saw Caitlin's grandfather freaking dying laughing. He was repeating

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Speaker 1: that one when we left Great Yeah, he was repeating

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Speaker 1: that one. Look, I'm a massive fan. I'm We've done

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Speaker 1: over an hour here. Oh man, I love watching it.

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Speaker 1: The opery. You're inspiring, you know to a guy like

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Speaker 1: me who does a little bit of music, little bit

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Speaker 1: of comedy a little bit, but to watch you do

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Speaker 1: it like you're still just so good. So I just

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your friendship. Congratulations on the opera. I know

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Speaker 1: how much that means to you. Everything. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you one question. Yeah, do you think you're the

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Speaker 1: best note you've ever been at what you do? I

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Speaker 1: think you probably are. I think that I've met this

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Speaker 1: is the really answer. I probably yes, because I've done

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Speaker 1: it wrong so many times that I know if something

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: starts to go in a direction that I know doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel right, I know how to quickly address, aboard and

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Speaker 1: get back on track. Actly. Yeah, same way, so I figured.

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Speaker 1: So there's several of us like that. I've talked to

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Speaker 1: Johnny Mathis about it, talked to everybody about it. Been

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Speaker 1: around a while, see Martin, everybody. Yeah, we're the best

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Speaker 1: note of what we do. Ever you feel that about

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Speaker 1: yourself to I just feel experience of things not going right. Yeah,

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01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: doesn't make my ceiling higher, But what it does is

1382
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: it keeps me real high for almost all the time.

1383
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: Because I've messed up so many times, I now can

1384
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: see that coming or this coming, so I can dodge it.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, So that's that's an interesting question. I

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01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: never really thought about that. Yeah, a huge fan. I'll

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Speaker 1: see many many more times. I'm sure, are you still

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: going back to but you're not playing at the Pebble

1389
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: Beach right? Probably anybody? No, I can't walk seven miles

1390
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: a day anymore. You still enjoy going out there? Oh? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I Clint has me come out and Clint has me

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Speaker 1: do his turn right every year, and I'm his partner

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Speaker 1: with a couple other guys. And at ninety two, he's

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01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, I've got a song. I do a song

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Speaker 1: on my show now with I do a lot of

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Speaker 1: senior jokes, and I say, you know I'm a senior.

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01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm one year older than Bugs Bundy and

1398
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: four years younger than Porky Pick. I mean, and that's true.

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Speaker 1: It's nineteen thirty nine, and uh yeah. Four years ago

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: Clint was playing golf with Toby Keith up at his

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01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Tahima up in vermel and Clints and Clint so, I

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01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: gotta I'm gonna be eighty eight this year. Toby said,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And Clint s, well, I

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01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: got a movie coming up. We go into production Monday,

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01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: and Abby so we keeps you going, And Clinn said,

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01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: I get up every morning and try not let the

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Speaker 1: old man in. Well that Toby wrote the song, and

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: now I do this song in middle of my show. Now,

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01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: I've never done a song in the middle of my

1410
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: comedy act. But and I tell you something. You can't

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: believe how many people relate to it. It's really really Yeah,

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: it's for people that are older. Yeah. The documentary later

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: this year. The live album. We'll talk about both when

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Speaker 1: they come out and have more details at Gary Underscore,

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01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: Mule Deer on Instagram and just a big fan and

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01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: thanks at the time. Oh, it's awesome. Play is I

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: love this episode of the Bobby Cast. Subscribe on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.