1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: sixty five, part of the Action Network. Today is our 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: week three Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chadmulman, Chief Content 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Officer of the Action Network. We are coming off of 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: a three and two winning week in our contest. Thank 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: freaking god, we did that. We recorded our Sunday episode 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: before Sunday Night Football, and as we said on the show, 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: a lot of lines we liked in the moment that 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: we talked about have already moved, which is why you 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: need to listen to the Sunday show if you want 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: to get the best of the number. Today we will 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: get to our Simon Says pick our exact Decision pick, 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: both of which won last week. Thursday. We will do 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: sharp calls, big balls, foxhol and go deeper into the 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: plays we like. 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Let's bring in my co host, 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: my bff, my companion, my capadre professional better signon hunter eto. 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: So way, men, shot, How are we doing? Brother? 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: We are so freaking good today. I cannot tell you 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: I've never felt better than I have after the first 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: two weeks of this football season. What a difference it 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: makes to go three and two versus two and three. 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: And what a difference it doesn't make to me at 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: all because I just feel the exact same. 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Just another week grinding, Chad. So that was brutal way 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: to end the week last night. 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Luckily I gave on the app just the Saints' first 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: half and the Saints under I just stayed away from 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: that Pittsburgh Browns game because you nailed it when you 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: were like, what are we doing? Why are we taking 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: the Browns here? Just a great life lesson, Chad. We 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: do not fade Pittsburgh at home on Monday night against 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: the Browns. 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: History just keep repeating itself. You ain't knowed us no 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: more now you know what I mean. 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Well, look, we're gonna get a chance to dig in 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: deeper on the Browns and the catastrophe that is happening 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: by the lake right now, plus every other game on 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: the slate. We'll start talking about our early leans, narrowing 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: down the games that we like. As a reminder, the 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Favorites Podcast is presented by bet three sixty five. Bet 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: three sixty five doesn't do ordinary. 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That's Jai Lina Cinder, 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and we paid out another fifteen hundred to the rest 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: of our top five. Tiebreaker was the longest Pittsburgh reception, 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: which was a seventy one yard George Pickens touchdown. Top 71 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: five all got within seventeen yards, but simon our winner 72 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: guest sixty nine. 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: Nice, it is nice. 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Right. Also, our producer Matt Mitchell wants to call up 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: participant q brown one for finishing dead fucking last and 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: the Week two contest congratulations for finishing h to five, 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: including a loss by the hook on Atlanta minus one 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: and a half and missing the tiebreaker by fifty yards. 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Please email podcasts at actionnetwork dot com to claim your 80 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: non cash prize. Thanks for playing. Week three in our 81 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: contest is live the Monday night football tiebreaker longest Beangals touchdown. 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: Good luck everybody, Gill sa Cisco, All right, let's get 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: to it. Let's talk about the Giants visiting San Francisco. 84 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: The line is ten and a half. Sa Quon is out. 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: The Giants old line is banged up. This team can 86 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: barely score against bad teams. This line hasn't moved already. 87 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: But I do have one Evan Abrams special stat that 88 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: might sway us. But tell me what you're thinking right now. 89 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it sucks that Auto plays the Giants like this. 90 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: This is one of these I have to tick the Giants, 91 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: but I'm so thankful we don't have to pick this 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: in our contest because it's one of those I know 93 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: I can't stay away and it might get me in 94 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: trouble because Thursday Night things were always a little weirder 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: and it always favorites the home team. I mean, the 96 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: Vikings were left for dead and they had some crazy 97 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: comeback to get that cover last week as the dog. 98 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: So that's the perfect summary for these Thursday games where 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: if you're a big favorite like this, you gotta blow 100 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: them out, like the forty nine Discover This number really 101 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: have to blow out this Giants team, and I just 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: don't know if the Giants are that bad. So this 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: number diget eleven to a couple of books. After the 104 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: Saquan news came down, a lot of pro money came in. 105 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: It's at ten and a lot of books now, so 106 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: ten and a half sounds fair like that's a fair 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: number to grab. 108 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: But you know, I just I'm just glad we don't 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: think make it one of our. 110 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: Five because this is like a true torture chamber of 111 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: a game where like I don't want to do it, 112 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: but that's a big number for a Thursday game, and 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: the Giants say what you want. They might have found 114 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: a little something in that second half. Like Daniel Jones, 115 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: his confidence looked like it came roaring back in that 116 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: second half against Arizona, so that's really great for him. 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: Now a short week still in the road with the 118 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: team head up the coast up to San fran and 119 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: you know the forty nine ers team. If you're taking 120 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: their number here, this is you buying at the peak, 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: like this is this is not you getting any type 122 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 3: of value on this forty nine ers team. So yeah, 123 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: thankful Chad that we don't have to make this one 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: of our contest pick because it's. 125 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: Kind of hard not to love the Giants in this 126 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: exact spot. 127 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Well, we would make it one of our contest picks 128 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: if we could do Thursday games. It's sort of what 129 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: we live on is making these really disgusting plays that 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: percentages favor us. I would also say, if you can't 131 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: find your confidence against the Arizona Cardinals, then you don't 132 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: deserve the massive guarantee contract. And Brian Dayball doesn't deserve 133 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: the massive props that we've been giving him that the 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: entirety of the NFL media universe has been giving him 135 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: from being a great coach. They needed that game for 136 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: their lungs. And I was sitting on that couch, that couch, 137 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: my couch. Nineteen minutes left in the game, Giants down 138 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: twenty eight to seven, And I said to a buddy 139 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I was sitting next to him, like, I got the 140 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: Giants minus five. Can they outscore the Cardinals twenty eight 141 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: to nothing? And they they almost did it. They almost 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: did it. They almost got there. They got to twenty four, 143 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: twenty four to nothing. Um, here's my stat for you. Okay, 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: here's my Evan Abram stat that's going to make us 145 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: feel better. Team playing their first home game in Week three, 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: that's the Niners twenty one, thirty four and two against 147 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: the spread over the past twenty years when those teams 148 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: are listed as a favorite fourteen twenty six and two 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: as a favorite of three or more twelve twenty one 150 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: and two. So the numbers, the precedent is on our 151 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: side to take the Giants minus ten. 152 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. 153 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: The trends are back that up because I would just say, 154 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: in my lifetime, anytime this spot pops up, it's like 155 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: I kind of have to take the dog in a 156 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: big number like this. So I'm not shocking to see 157 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: the public loses on this trend because that's just it's 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: a dumb bet. If you're betting the four nine ers 159 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: here over time, it's going to be a loser taking 160 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: a team like this in this exact spot. So yeah, 161 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: thank you Evan for that. I needed that to boost 162 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: my Giants love. 163 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Simon feels better. Nice job, Nice job, Evan Abrams. All right, now, 164 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: we got to get some games that we know we 165 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: can think about. 166 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: People are gonna hate this week, but. 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of overreaction, a little bit of 168 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: these teams aren't as bad as people perceive. So I 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: already know ahead of time, like there's gonna be a 170 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: couple of games just like last week, where you know 171 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: it might not work, just like that Bears number didn't. 172 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 3: But there's a method to the madness. So I hope 173 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: people got strong stomachs because this week is really tough, 174 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: because we're really going to ask you go. 175 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Against the grain here for a lot of these games. 176 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: The Chargers are plus one at Minnesota. I'm a little 177 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: surprised this number hasn't moved yet. The pros like Minnesota. 178 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: The money's on the vikings, the bets are on the Chargers. Reminder, 179 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: if you go to the Action Network app or you're 180 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: in the Action Network website, you see the bets column 181 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: in the odds page and the public betting page that 182 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: the bets is where the public money is coming. The 183 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: money is where the professionals are. I'm going to say 184 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: right now, I like Minnesota here. 185 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: I got no read on it. I just think there's 186 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: no value. I'll just take the over or something and 187 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: just stay away from this one. 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think you should take the over. Like, if 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: you watch that Titans game and we're going to talk 190 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: about this, you would have thought the Chargers were going 191 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: to kill Ryan Tannel. He was sacked five times, like terrible, 192 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: violent hits, but his stat line was twenty to tw 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: twenty four, nearly seven yards per attempt. All right, and 194 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: Kirk has been awesome this year. Second most passing yards 195 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: in the league, third highest completion completion percentage, second highest 196 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: passer rating, and you know it gives it the most 197 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: yards per attempt. The Los Angeles Chargers a very badly 198 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: coached team on the road as a one point five, 199 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: what a team we're skeptical about at home as a 200 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: one point dog. I can see why you want to pass. 201 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it feels like a game we're not 202 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: getting great value on the line like vikings plus three 203 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: no brainer play because it just feels like wherever's the 204 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: ball last is going to win this game. So yeah, 205 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: definitely a Russian roulette game where it's like there's no 206 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: model in the world that can predict this game, Like 207 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: no one knows with either of these teams what's going 208 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: to happen. We all know it's going to be a 209 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: shit show. So yeah, I'll I'll just take the overchat 210 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: and stay away first side. 211 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, see I so all right fine, because 212 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: I really I'm gonna take a little taste of the 213 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: with the vikings on this one. Evan says that when 214 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: two winless teams play, the underdog is seventy thirty seven 215 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: and four over the past twenty years. I don't really 216 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: think that's a relevant stat here, because this one's bouncing 217 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: around like it might as well be picked. Let's talk 218 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: about Buffalo on the road at Washington. The Bills make 219 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: me want heels and throw your hands up and throw 220 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: your hair back. Tom Now the Bills, I'm making it happen. 221 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I loved this game all last week. I bet Buffalo 222 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: minus six on Sunday the look aheadline before any of 223 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: the games were played. I think we got lucky that 224 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Washington came back against Evers. The line stayed down, and 225 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: according to Nick Giffen, one of our predictive analysts co 226 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: creator of the Luck Rankings, this is one of the 227 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: top four games with value in favor of Buffalo as 228 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: a decent sized road favorite. It now it's and a half. 229 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, another game. I'm wait on. 230 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: I know a really smart group that's heavy on the 231 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: Washington in this one. They came in and grabbed that. 232 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: It got up to seven to one point. Now it's 233 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: in a six and a half. You might see some 234 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: six of some books, but definitely a pro's verse shows game. 235 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: I mean even myself threw the bills right into a 236 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: teaser as soon as this number came out. It's just like, Oh, 237 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: all I need is the Bills that win this game. 238 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 3: Straight up, It's hard to think Washington's going three and 239 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: now had a really emotional win Week one, had an incredible, 240 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: big come from behind win in Week two? 241 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: How do they not have a letdown spot here? 242 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: Really interesting number, Like the fact that the pros are 243 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: coming in on this means there's a couple pros out 244 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: there that really do believe in this commander's team. 245 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: So I can't get behind it. 246 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to find a reason to get on 247 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 3: Washington here and I can't do it. I mean, I 248 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: don't need to look at the splits, but I already 249 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: know the public is going to be all over the bills. 250 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: It's just a nice number, a good number of throwing teasers, 251 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: everything about it. 252 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: So definitely one of these. 253 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: I don't hate it that you already took the bills 254 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: and that I already have the bills and a teaser, 255 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: but this is one of these numbers. I don't want 256 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: to get some it for Thursday show, so no real 257 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: opinion on it. I leaned towards Washington at this point 258 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, but no play for me yet. 259 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, look, I feel like if you think the Bills 260 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: are going to win, then you bet the Bills minus six, 261 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: minus six and a half. Evan can tell us in 262 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: the chat, but I'm fairly certain during Josh Allen's career, 263 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: he's won fifty four career games now, thirty eight of 264 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: those games he's won by seven or more points. So 265 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: like when the guy wins, he covers and he. 266 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: Usually blows out bad teams. Like that's what he's great at. 267 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Like, that's exactly why we loved him. This past weekend 268 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: against the Raiders, we didn't give a fuck what the 269 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: number was. The number was seven and a half, eight 270 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and a half, nine and a half. We were playing 271 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: it at every single number. 272 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also a little bit of luck because 273 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: again I do care about the number. If it was 274 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: eleven eleven and a half, I probably would have came 275 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: in on the Raiders. So we had great value in 276 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: a great spot on that Bills team, which that's why 277 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: I ended up in our contest. 278 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Jeb Allen forty three of his fifty seven wins by 279 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: seven or more New Orleans at Green Bay. That number 280 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: right now is at the Packers' minds one and a half, 281 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: so it's come down a little bit. It was at two. 282 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: The Saints team is so interesting, like they have they've 283 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: they've won two games. They were clearly better than the 284 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Panthers last night. Jordan Love. Meanwhile, you see for real 285 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: passer rating one eighteen, six touchdowns, no interceptions, yars per 286 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: attempt seven and a half. Right, So I kind of 287 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: feel like he's for real. But the same stat I 288 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: just read about teams playing their first home game who 289 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: are favored fourteen twenty six and two against the spread. 290 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think we might be able to get 291 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: a good deal here on the Saints, just because most 292 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: people watch that game that that was a gross game, 293 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: that Saints Carolina game, and Derek Carr historically is not 294 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: that great on the road, and we still kind of 295 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: pop up in that game. There's sometimes he looked lost 296 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: where he really shouldn't. Like Michael Thomas Olive, these weapons 297 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: he has at his disposal are so good. The Saints 298 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: defense is so talented I mean that was a brutal, 299 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: brutal back door, but one of the best back towards 300 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: you can get if you had Carolina, Like, that's the 301 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: dream scenario when you get the three and a half 302 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: and they get the touchdown of the two point after 303 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: they did nothing for fifty six minutes. That's why we 304 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: play the numbers JAD. So yeah, interesting to see how 305 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: this number is gonna go. I initially wanted to get 306 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: on Green Bay. I was like thinking to myself, if 307 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: the Saints are two and zero, this this is the 308 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: kind of game the year where they go and win 309 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: this game in Green Bay. I really have to really 310 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: like take more consideration about how good the Saints team 311 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: is right now, because I still think they're the kind 312 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: of team where, yeah, I picked him before the season 313 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: to be the one seed. 314 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: I didn't really believe it. 315 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: Like I still have a lot of questions, but Derek 316 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: Carr and I still feel the same after that Carolina 317 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: game chat. So in a really tough spot for this 318 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: Saints team to go up to Green Bay and playing. 319 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: But if it keeps creeping up, like if this gets 320 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: to two and a half, we're gonna take that number. 321 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: Like if this was at a pick, i'd be on 322 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: green Bay. But if it gets to two and a half, three, I'll. 323 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: Back the Saints and I'll take that defense. 324 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping the public money keeps coming in and 325 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: maybe some pros coming and take green Bay and we 326 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: get to two and a half, because that'd be a 327 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: really nice number to back with this. The Saints defense 328 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: is just legit, like they're really good in every facet. 329 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: So as much prais I want to give Jordan Love, 330 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: we also talked about it where it's like a lot 331 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: of it's with the coach giving him the easy reads 332 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: and the easy pass and there's some other stuff for 333 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: Jordan Love looks like a first year starter, Like this 334 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: guy is gonna have a lot of ugly plays coming up, 335 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: and that's just how it is in the NFL. Like 336 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: you learn from your mistakes. He's got a lot of 337 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: mistakes coming and this is one of these games. Yeah, 338 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: you get get fat fat off playing the Bears defense, 339 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: get fat off playing Atlanta indoors. Now you're playing the 340 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: Saints defense, which I think most people are gonna have 341 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: them rated as a top eight, top seven defense. So 342 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to learn a lot about Jordan Love in 343 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: this game for sure, So. 344 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: Let me give you the capitol j other side of 345 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: the story, Jordan Love fifty five percent completion rate, Jordan 346 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Love playing against a defensive backfield that looks like a 347 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: bunch of high schoolers in the Chicago Bears playing indoors. 348 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: Like you said, uh, week one and two favorites, short favorites, 349 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: field goal or less. Okay, Cordon to Evan Abrams in September. 350 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: The past twenty years one, two, five and two against 351 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: the spread, they especially don't perform well in the first 352 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: three weeks ninety two, one, twelve and two for the 353 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: last twenty years thirty nine and sixty five since twenty fifteen. 354 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: So that's the Packers, that's the Chargers. Two teams we've 355 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: already talked about more and more. I feel like the 356 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: Saints are one of those teams we're going to want 357 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: to play because they will be undervalued at least this week, 358 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: and the money and the bets coming in right now 359 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: in the Packers, so I would expect this number to move. 360 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: That'd be great. Yeah, I would love to be able 361 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: to get two and a half on this in the contest. 362 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: But when we play it right, now at plus two, 363 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: forget about the contest. 364 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: Betting wise, you could, but I would honestly wait because 365 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: I just I just see it. 366 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: I could see it keep going up. But that is 367 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: a risk. 368 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: Like I just said, the pros could come in on 369 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: and it could go back down on one one and 370 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: a half. But I just hate I hate pushes, so like, yeah, 371 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: I'll put a little on the two here, but I 372 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: want the two and a half for the three. 373 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: What if it goes to one and a half sucks? 374 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: But again that's that's just when you make it a 375 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: teaser play. 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It was five and a half. 403 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: I loved it, and you've said it was phishy. Now 404 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: it's down to three and a half. The money and 405 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: the bets coming in on Atlanta. Can you explain why 406 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: you thought it was phishy? Do you still think so? 407 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Should we have better at five and a half on 408 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Sunday Night? 409 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed it, you were You were a spot 410 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: on looking at it. 411 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: I look at from another perspective, Well, this is a 412 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: bad number, and that's how you. 413 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: Make books pay. Rights. 414 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: You bet it and the books hang a bad numory 415 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: you pound it, and that's that's how they pay. So 416 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: that was a good read by you. And that was 417 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: just me being skeptical of like, why is this number 418 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: not three? Two days later now it's down to three. 419 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: So that's exactly what I said to the show, is 420 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: like I got this at three three and a half, 421 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: why is that five and a half? 422 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: Like it just felt very bizarre. 423 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: It was so inflated, way too much respect to that 424 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: Lions team. So yeah, pissed I missed the best of 425 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: the number of the pros have just been pounding this 426 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: down to three and now a lot of books. I mean, 427 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: the value is going to be there in the Lions, Chad, 428 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: this keeps happening, we get two and a half in 429 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: the Lions. I'm happy to take the Lions there, So 430 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: it's right where it needs to be right now, like 431 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: three to me and no value either side. I lean 432 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: now towards the Lions. But if it goes back to 433 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: up to three and a half, four, I could see 434 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: us in Atlanta. If it goes back down below three, 435 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: I could see some of the Lions. It's just this 436 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: is a really good number where these teams are not 437 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: that big. There's not that much big of a difference 438 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: until you get to the quarterback position, where there's a 439 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: huge difference with Detroit's quarterback compared to Atlantis quarterback. So yeah, 440 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: Ritter might be that guy who's incredible at home and 441 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: we just fade him on the road. So give me 442 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: the two and a half in the Lions. 443 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 2: I beg you. Let me tell you something. 444 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: I love this team. 445 00:21:59,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: Now. 446 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I got goosebumps. 447 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Gentlemen, you're gonna be ready to go man, piss and vinegar. 448 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: I love this team. The lines were set up to 449 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: fail in that game against Seattle, right, they were so 450 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: overhyped that first game at home, the euphoria around the Lions. 451 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, that stadium being sold out with a waiting 452 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: list for the first time in generations. So now I'm 453 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: just gonna have to wait until the lines are less 454 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: than a field goal. 455 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Wayne, we see value on the line again, Dude. 456 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: We got to talk about this Cleveland Browns team, all right. 457 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: I think this is I think this is one of 458 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: the toughest games out there. So this was another one 459 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: we discussed at Sunday night. We were in agreement. You 460 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: take a small position on Tennessee at four and a half, 461 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: and then you sort of made a bigger decision depending 462 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: on what happened with Cleveland. 463 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then. 464 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Sort of everything that happened with Cleveland actually makes this 465 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: murcurer right, Like, this game potentially deflates their entire season. 466 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: They're two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed. Quarterback gave 467 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: the game away in multiple ways. Their best offensive weapon 468 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: is done for the year. We think they lose his 469 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: favorites on the road in a game they easily could 470 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: have won to got two to zero for the first 471 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: time since nineteen ninety three. We lose on a bad beat. 472 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: They lose on a bad play. Here's a great stat 473 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: that Anthony Debundo, who's one of our analysts covering just 474 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: about every single sport there is gave me during our 475 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: Green Dot Daily production meeting this morning. In two games, 476 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: opponents have yet to run a play in the Browns 477 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: red zone. It's fucking wild. What do we do with 478 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: this game? It's Mike Vrabel, the only coach in the 479 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: NFL the past twenty years with a winning record as 480 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: an underdog. 481 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really tough one. 482 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: Obviously, Like you said, we already have a position on Tennessee, 483 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna throw that away as if I have 484 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: nothing on it and the value is gonna shift to 485 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: the Browns. Like it's just like the Lions. If this 486 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: number gets two and a half, I'm gonna have to 487 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: do it. I'm probably gonna have to take the brown 488 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: But man, it's totally what you just said, where it's 489 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: like Tennessee three and a half. I would love that 490 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: number because it just feels like two teams with really 491 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: really strong front fource. So like, defensively, I really like 492 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: Tennessee to shut down what the Browns are going to 493 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: do on the ground. They're going to be probably the 494 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: most public dog of the week. If I had to guess, 495 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: it's just going to be a team that the pros like. 496 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: The public like together. 497 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: The books are going to need the Browns badly. So 498 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: if it gets two and a half, that's where the 499 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: value is going to be. So this number, you know, 500 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 3: I don't know how much Nick Chubb is worth to 501 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: it the line, but it was probably half a point. 502 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: So that's why I'm hoping it does go down to 503 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: two and a half. So another game, not much ado 504 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: with probably going to have to end up on the Browns, 505 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: but another game I just kind of hate. If I'm 506 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: talking about a mentally weak team, it's going to be 507 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: the Browns compared to Tennessee. Like Tennessee, I think that 508 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: was their first win nine weeks going back to last 509 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: season last week, and that was a perfect Vabel game, right. 510 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: They just never gave up in that Chargers game. They 511 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: kept fighting, they held, they held to Herbert in that offense. 512 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: If you're taking Tennessee, you're you're banking on Tanniel having 513 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: back to back good games, and that's that's a lot 514 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: to ask. So yeah, another game where I'll just wait 515 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: for the line to move. If you want Tennessee, you 516 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: you should grab the three now because I do think 517 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: this is going to drop to two and a half. 518 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: Here's something else to make us even more confused. You 519 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: and I both love the luck rankings. This is one 520 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: of the top four luck ranking differential games in favor 521 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: of the Browns, meaning to play the Browns if it 522 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: gets two and a half put on my line alerts 523 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: for the Action Network app hope that I can be awake. 524 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, you and I last week did our YouTube 525 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: only Favorites film session in which we picked out plays 526 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: that sort of impacted our bets from the previous week 527 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: but also gave us something to think about going into 528 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: the next week. And mine is going to be about 529 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: the Titans protecting Tannehill and how that's messing with my 530 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: head for this game, because I do think that's a 531 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: big deal, right, Like that Browns defense. They're still healthy 532 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: and they're fucking awesome. Yeah, Houston at Jacksonville Jacksonville is 533 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: now an eight and a half point favorite. We're one 534 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: hundred percent going to have to take the Texans in 535 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: the contest. 536 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: I won't make it a guarantee, but yeah, it's it's 537 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 3: looking that way just because who the hell are the 538 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: Jaguars and this offense to be you know, rated as 539 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 3: the same as the Ravens were in Week one, right 540 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: that that line in Week one I think was nine 541 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: and a half. 542 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: Ten. 543 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: This line opened at nine and a half. I believe 544 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: down to eight and a half, Like, I'll grab it now. 545 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: This isn't the ass Simon says, play, but I'll grab 546 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: you sent at the eight and a half. CJ has 547 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: looked the best of all the rookies. Went back and 548 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: watched the film from that Colts game. The Colts did 549 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: throw a shell defense at them once they had a 550 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: big lead. But he's still making the throws, which I mean, 551 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 3: we talk all the time. These Ohio State quarterbacks usually 552 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: don't work in the league. 553 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: It's just again, I don't want to shoot on justin fields. 554 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: But there's always these guys who come out really hyped 555 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: up from Iowa State and it's like, okay, take away. 556 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: All their number. 557 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: You know, they're five star, number one receivers, all these 558 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: incredible receivers Ohio State has. Now these guys are coming 559 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: to the league and they're kind of with Scrubs. It's 560 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: not as easy. They usually don't work out. CJ's making, 561 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, scrubs and the Stars. I mean, there's a 562 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: couple of guys on that team that like you know, 563 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: even Robert Woods, a guy who was left for dead's 564 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: making catches for the Houston team. So you know, Tank 565 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: Dell got it in the action Collins like they have 566 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: some nice pieces down there in Houston. So in in 567 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: a game where if the Jaguars would have won last week, 568 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: that's what bums me aut you as like we easily 569 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: would have got ten and a half on this number, 570 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: which but an amazing to take you sin At. I'm 571 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: still happy to take out the number it is. It's 572 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: just one of those where I feel like the number 573 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 3: would have been way higher if the if the Jaguars 574 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: were covered last week, So we could be going against 575 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: the Jaguars team where you could be getting a low 576 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 3: value on. But don't think it's low enough yet, Like 577 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: this to me should be a seven. Get eight and 578 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 3: a half, which is a key number. So I'm right 579 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: there with you, Chet, like I like this number. 580 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that you say that about CJ. Shroud. 581 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: I've seen limited numbers of their plays. I haven't watched 582 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: a full game film for them, but every time I've 583 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: seen him, he's looked confused and he's dropping back and 584 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: running back further, like Robert Woods seems to be the 585 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: only player he's comfortable making any tight throws to. 586 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: No, he loves Collins, that's his guy. 587 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: What are you seeing right now that makes you feel 588 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: he's better than anybody else who's playing quarterback as a rookie. 589 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: What if I told you he in his second start 590 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: of his career, he threw from more yards than any 591 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: quarterback that's ever come out. 592 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 2: Ohio State to the NFL. Is that something you might 593 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: be interested in? 594 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: No, because we've already said the quarterbacks from Ohio State 595 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: A haven't been that good and B gross yardage in 596 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: a game is not an indication of you being very good. 597 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: No one else ever could do it though, Like to me, 598 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: that's a big deal where it's like this kid could 599 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: easily have just gotten down, not gone through the motions 600 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: and not really kept trying. And like I love, they're 601 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: working through stuff in Houston, it's gonna be a shit show. Dude, 602 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: my guy Evan. Thank god Evan's here fourth in passing 603 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: yards with no interceptions. Chad, go fuck yourself, bad mouth 604 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: and CJ. That's why we need Evan here. But No, 605 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Like he could easily come here and 606 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: just lay a total legg Like I have no idea 607 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 3: what this kid's gonna be. 608 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: It's just the rookie year. 609 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: I'm looking for little stuff and it is no small feat. 610 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: Even if you're playing against the shell defense a throw 611 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: forward three hundred yards NFL, it's really. 612 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: Hard to do. 613 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: So anything you're saying bad about him completely warranted. Like 614 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: that Ravens gave me. 615 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: Look lost. I kind of threw it away. 616 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to play the number here because I'm 617 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: totally with you, Chad, Like, if he's down fourteen in 618 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: the first quarter against this Jaguars team, this BET's probably dead. 619 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: Like You're exactly right, like I got zero faith and CJ. 620 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: But if they can just cleep it close, and we've 621 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: seen the Jaguars have struggled in the red zone this year, 622 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: that's that's that's a nice bet. 623 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: This is what professionals make their money. Here's a question 624 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: for me, how can Houston stop Travis atn when they 625 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: couldn't stop Zach Moss. 626 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: Now it is tough where it's like you brought in 627 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: a defensive head coach and the defense hasn't looked great. 628 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: The Houston might be one of the worst teams against 629 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: the run. 630 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: New England is a now three point favorite at the 631 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: New York Jets. This is the number one game in 632 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: our luck rankings. The difference the gap is twenty five. 633 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: So for the record, like, that's that's towards New England, right. 634 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, towards New England like unlucky teams meeting a threshold 635 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: like New England in our luck rankings hit at a 636 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: sixty three percent clip since two thousand and eighteen. In 637 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: Week three alone, that goes up to sixty nine percent. 638 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: So the numbers moved. I mean the number was a two, 639 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: we got two and a half. Now it's at three. 640 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: I mean the big thing is Spelichick a sack Wilson, right, 641 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: Like is in this every year we try to convince 642 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: ourselves to take the Jets against Belichick here And I 643 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: don't know if Evan has the number, but I don't 644 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: think Bell has ever lost to Zach. 645 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Like. 646 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: It's just one of those games where even last year, 647 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm almost positive positive we had the Jets and they 648 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: dominated the whole game, and they punted and the Patriots 649 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: returned the punt for a touchdown and we lost the 650 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: bet on the Jets, like something stupid like that happened 651 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, Wilson owned four straight up and against 652 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: the spread first New England. So fuck man, we tried 653 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: to go in the trend last week. We're like, we 654 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: got to take the Patriots against Tua, who was not 655 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: going to go five and zer against his Belichick defense. 656 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: And you know, Belichick might have made the script right. 657 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: That umbrella defense he ran against Tuoa did slow down 658 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: that Miami offense. This week, we'll go back to the will. 659 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: I'll trust Belichick. I'll trust him out to go one three. 660 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: I'll take the number at three, hopefully two and a 661 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: half in our contest. And yeah, this is one of 662 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: those favorites where I usually always loved the home doll, 663 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: but not when it's a defensive mind like Belichick. First, 664 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: this quarterback in Zach Wilson. So definitely a huge advantage 665 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: for this Patriots team. And we want to see the 666 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 3: injury report for this Patriots team. If their defense is healthy, 667 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: you know, if their cornerbacks are going to play this game, 668 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: everyone's good to go. Yeah, I love as our one 669 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: solo favorite. This is definitely up the top of the 670 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: list of taking New England. 671 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Here a circle that's on the board. It's got the 672 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: luck ranking stamp of approval. Simon, you know what has 673 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: my stamp of approval. It's the fastest growing ticketing app 674 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: in the United States. That's right, it's our sponsor, game Time. 675 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: I love game Time for two reasons. One they sponsored 676 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: the show. Two, I actually use game Time to buy tickets. 677 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: I've talked about it a lot. 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I think we're going 691 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: to have to have a race between executive decision, and 692 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: Simon says, I think Denver at Miami Miami six and 693 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: a half point favorite the Dolphins right now at bet 694 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: three sixty five fourteen to one to win the Super 695 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: Bowl TUA shortest MVP odds. Not surprisingly eighty percent of 696 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: the tickets coming into Miami. But my amp, but the 697 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: money is fifty to fifty split. This is number two 698 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: in our luck rankings. I will defer to you. I 699 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: will give you that if you want to make this, 700 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: your son says, feel free. If not, I'm executiving decisioning this. 701 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: The great minds Chad, just because you can still get 702 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: seven's out there another week. It's going to be the 703 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 3: pros versus the Joe's on this. This going against this 704 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: Miami team that is incredibly talented, but the lines incredibly inflated. 705 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: And you know, Denver people won't believe it hearing this, 706 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: but Russ and a lot of metrics, is considered a 707 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: top five, top six quarterback right now. Like he's been 708 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 3: actually playing really well. That Denver offense. 709 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 2: Has been really good. It's just the defense. 710 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, the hope here the number you're taking is 711 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: Russ will be able to keep up with this Miami 712 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 3: team offensively and the defense will be able to step up. 713 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 3: So we've got to take the really desperate team against 714 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: the team that is beloved by everyone in the public 715 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: and just not even matchup like matchup wise, this is 716 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: actually a good matchup for this Denver team. Like a 717 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: lot of stuff they can do well. They can stop 718 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: mining wants to do offensively. But just just looking at football, 719 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: the zero and two team going against the two and 720 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 3: oh team that I think you just said it two 721 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: as the favor right now for MVP, how do we 722 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: not like we're getting two to three free points on 723 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: Denver here, just off public perceptions. 724 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 2: So you can take it because I have one more game. 725 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: I love you would do that for me. 726 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because as long as people take it like I 727 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: love that number, I think that's what our show is 728 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: built on. 729 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm taking it as the exact decision, the choice between 730 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: the unthinkable and the impossible. 731 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: Text your number executive decision? 732 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: Are they number one in the luck ranking? Is that 733 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: what you said? 734 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: The number one game is New England and number two 735 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: is Denver against Miami. 736 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: That makes sense they'd be number one for unlucky and 737 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: same with Denver. Denver is oh and two easily could 738 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: be two and oh yeah makes sense. 739 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: First thing to figure out with Denver is are they 740 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: masters of their own bad luck? Yeah, they've looked amazing 741 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: in the first half. Russell Wilson has been great when 742 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: Sean Payton has been able to get him to play 743 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: the game plan that they've worked on for the entire week. 744 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: And then the second half when adjustments come, Russell Wilson's 745 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: been terrible and they've let teams back into it to win. Also, 746 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who started making mistakes right like they were 747 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 1: up twenty one to three. Russell Wilson fumbles the ball, 748 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: doesn't try to jump on it, gives Washington the opportunity 749 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: to come back, and they never recover. 750 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: And did you see that fumbling? 751 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks so like that's the first time Russ 752 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 3: really looked old. 753 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: He looked he looked old. Yeah, he looked old. 754 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: Yes, I wonder if that's going to be my film 755 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: session play the week now that I'm playing, I know 756 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to be playing the Broncos. Oh, this is 757 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: so interesting. So I love the film session. I love it. 758 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: Sean Payton most profitable underdog after Mike Tomlin the past 759 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: twenty years, most profitable underdog coach the last twenty years. 760 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, people, we have to do it. 761 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: Like, if this is seven and a half in our contest, 762 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: this is going to be a no brainer play for us. 763 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: What if it's six and a half. 764 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: I'd still take in contests, Like I still think that's 765 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: too high, So don't don't mind number either. 766 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: I totally agree Indy at Baltimore. Baltimore is an eight 767 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. I haven't heard anything about 768 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson yet, have you. I haven't noticed anything. 769 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: No, but I do know a really smart group that 770 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: took a large position on the Colts. So I could 771 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: tell you that a bunch of pros don't care. They 772 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: don't care if it's Mentru, if it's Richardson. They like 773 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: the Colts of this number. I haven't done anything in 774 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: this game because I'm with Chad. I just I need 775 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: to know Richardson's going to play, if he's not playing, 776 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: if the number will move off of that. So if 777 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: people want to know what the pros early bet is 778 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: that they like the Colts in this spot, But to me, 779 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: I just don't have an opinion on it. 780 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: Yet another one. I don't have a great readown it. 781 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you do. Carolina at Seattle, Like now we've seen 782 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: Carolina after last night we saw Seattle get a little 783 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: bit healthier against Detroit. The lines four and a half. 784 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't have a strong opinion on this one. 785 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just took the under, Like when this number 786 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 3: hung last night, even before the Carolina game, I took 787 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: the under on it. As great as the Seahawks played 788 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: against the Lions, the Lions left a ton of opportunity 789 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: on the field there, and I think Carolina will actually 790 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: be able to tack those weaknesses that the Seahawks have, 791 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 3: which is that offensive line, Like there's just you're replacing 792 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: your left and right tackle. There's going to be some regression. 793 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: So incredible win for the Seahawks, really bad loss for 794 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 3: this Carolina team. Give me that six and a half seven. 795 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 3: I would love to take a six and a half 796 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 3: seven on this this Panther team. So yeah, one of 797 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: those numbers that was way too low at three and 798 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: a half four on Carolina. Now it's where it should be, 799 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: Like it should be six and a half seven. 800 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: But it's not six and a half seven. Oh yeah, six, 801 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm seeing five and a half, Okay, I just. 802 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 3: Assume it's getting up there where like the public's going 803 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: to come in really heavy on the Seahawks team here. 804 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, like like Carolina, this spot, like the number, 805 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 3: it's just it'll be hard for me to get there. 806 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 3: Is just one of our dog bets, just because we 807 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: still have so many questions right now about this offensive Carolina, 808 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 3: Like I really don't know what they are. I'm trying 809 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 3: not to be too mean to them because they're in 810 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: a rough spot where you know, Bryce Shong's first game 811 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: was a divisional game against Atlanta on the road. Then 812 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: he came home and played a really good Saints defense 813 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: on Monday night, and now he's going to Seattle. Like 814 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: that's such a brutal start for a rookie quarterback. Like 815 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: he's just going into really hostile environments. So yeah, if 816 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 3: I have a choice between this rookie on the road, 817 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson on the rookie on the road, where CJ 818 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: is a rookie on the road, I think me and 819 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 3: you are both more comfortable taking the numbers above seven 820 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 3: and a half, above eight than we are taking a 821 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 3: Carolina team here at six and six five and a half. 822 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 3: It's just the number is not doing it for me yet. 823 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: So like Carolina, I just don't like the number yet. 824 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: You know what, we're going to be comfortable doing, really 825 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: comfortable doing, because it's what we do. Taking the Arizona 826 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals as twelve and a half point underdogs at home 827 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys, who are getting eighty two percent 828 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: of the bets. This is a must play throughout the 829 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: names and the helmets. You see these numbers and you 830 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: take the home dog yea. 831 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 3: And stinks though because even last week, haven't gave us 832 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 3: that stat about Dak versus these bad teams as big 833 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 3: favorites like this is actually when the Cowboys do good? 834 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, Chad, how do we not take this number 835 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: here like this? 836 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: This is what we do. We take the Cardinals. 837 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 3: Kicking myself last week for not being more in line 838 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 3: with a lot of the pros on taking them against 839 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 3: the Giants. 840 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: Simon. By the way, Cardinals last week against the Giants, 841 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: they were a big, big and one of the reasons 842 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: we love our sponsor bet three six five is their 843 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: NFL early payout offer. Your bet gets graded as a 844 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: winner automatically if the team you bet is up by 845 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: seventeen or more so. People who bet Arizona money line 846 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: last week got paid even though they blew the game. 847 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: Do you think Arizona could be on the receiving end 848 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: of a seventeen point deficit this week? It's possible. 849 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: When will this get to thirteen fourteen? That's the real question, 850 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 2: right Like. 851 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 3: The Bears feels like it's hitching up towards that number. Yeah, 852 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: I hope we can get here with the Cardinals twelve 853 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 3: and a half. Even Chad knows like that's that's not 854 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: really enough. That's a nothing number like twelve and a 855 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: half to ten and a half. It's just our number 856 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 3: rarely falls in eleven or twelve, like mathematically, it just 857 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 3: doesn't happen. So interesting that they've hung this number this way, 858 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 3: just because it's a little telling where it's a teaser number. 859 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: It means if you're teasing this number, you can get 860 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: this below six and a half right now, which we 861 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: talk all the time. 862 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 2: That's a big deal. So be careful out there. 863 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 3: These sports books keeping this at twelve and a half 864 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 3: a little telling because they know this is going to 865 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: be the most public bet. Like the money line of Dallas. 866 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: I think it was the number two most bet bet 867 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 3: a big sports book. So Dallas looks the part though, 868 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 3: Like as much as I want to tear down Dallas, 869 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 3: their defense is beat up on crappy teams and the 870 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: Giants and the Jets, and they handle their business like 871 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 3: that's what you want to look for, Like your defense 872 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 3: should beat up those teams. That's what you expect. That 873 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 3: is Dallas defense. So yeah, the big thing that excites 874 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 3: me about back in Arizona chat is it's just and 875 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 3: be us in the pros. It's just another one of 876 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: those weeks, So another number we'll fight on if we 877 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 3: can get into the contest or not. But yeah, as 878 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: the week goes along here, if this gets up to 879 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 3: thirteen and a half fourteen, it's gonna be already to 880 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 3: keep it out. That's just a huge number for a 881 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 3: road favorite on this Cowboys. 882 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: Team, Bears, Chiefs. This is a pros Joe's game right now. 883 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: Numbers are twelve and a half, sixty percent of the 884 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: bets on the Chiefs, sixty eight percent of the money 885 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: on the Bears. I can see it. I mean, the 886 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: Chiefs have struggled, the Bears have been terrible, but that's 887 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: why you're getting such a big number right now. So 888 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: either you believe this is a get healthy game for 889 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, or you believe in the stats that the 890 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: Bears are going to cover a big number and Patrick Mahomes, 891 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: who has a hard time covering numbers like this, will 892 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: play it for him. 893 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, another scary, big favorite where you know, if you 894 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 3: want to throw the Chiefs in a teaser, I totally 895 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: get it. I don't see the scenario of this Bears 896 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: team wins this game, let alone gets us under a touchdown. 897 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 2: They're just they're lost right now. And you know, the. 898 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 3: Players got interviewed said that there wasn't any words spoken 899 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 3: on that flight home chat from Tampa back to Chicago. 900 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 3: So everything is just bad right now in Chicago. And 901 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 3: now they're heading to Kansas City on a team that 902 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 3: I think we both agree like their offense. You know, 903 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: Eric Blimey, they're there, they're Cee left last year with 904 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 3: the Washington Now Washington's too and on their offense is 905 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 3: clicking where you look at the Chiefs and there's something's 906 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 3: missing around their offense. And if there's going to be 907 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 3: at a get right game for them, Chad, it's the 908 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 3: Chicago's Bears defense, Like this is as good as it gets. 909 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: To get your offense right. 910 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 3: So if they struggle against his Bears defense, some major 911 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 3: major questions now about this Chiefs offense. So yeah, another one, 912 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: another ugly dog. But it's are we going to take 913 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 3: this over the Cardinals? Like, it's gonna be tough to 914 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 3: pick this whever other dog. 915 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: So I do like the Bears. I don't know if 916 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 2: I love it so far. 917 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, I was gonna say this is one of 918 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: the most beat games, but there's a lot of the 919 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: games that are more bad. So on Sunday night, we 920 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: talked about the Raiders at plus one and a half. 921 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: The number is not moved to Raiders minus one and 922 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: a half. The Raiders do fall into that stat now 923 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: teams is a short favorite playing their first home game 924 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: in Week three that you'd want to fade. How do 925 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: you feel about the Raiders right now as favorites at 926 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: one and a half against the Steelers. Yeah. 927 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 3: We joke all the time about the Spider Man meme, 928 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 3: and this is the Spider Man meme. Usually the exact 929 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 3: same team against each other. There's literally nothing different other 930 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 3: than Jimmy has the experience and I can kind of 931 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 3: count on Jimmy and make the throws that I need 932 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 3: them too. So yeah, great scenario last week. This is 933 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: why I wanted to take the Raiders like they got 934 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 3: blown out. The public was going to like Pittsburgh, especially 935 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 3: if Pittsburgh won, but the pros came and hammered this number. 936 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 3: So even though Pittsburgh won, no one's buying it. Like 937 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 3: the numbers moved from plus one and a half on 938 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: the Raiders down to minus one and a half. I 939 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 3: still like the Raiders, so I don't hate taking them 940 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: as a favorite here. I don't hate taking that number. 941 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 3: You know the Pittsburgh what an amazing win. But can 942 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 3: you rely on your defense to get fourteen points every 943 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 3: week for you to cover and win these games? I 944 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: don't think so, Especially against this Raider team that they 945 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 3: played so bad against the Bills. You know that they're 946 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 3: going to get. 947 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 2: Right this week. 948 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 3: So yeah, looking at this, if it all comes out 949 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 3: that Jimmy is fully healthy, because I don't know if 950 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 3: he's injured because he just played so bad in that game, 951 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 3: love him to get right. 952 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: And Josh Jacobs, who had one of. 953 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 3: The worst games I've ever seen by running back last 954 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: week against the Bills. Great bounce back spot against Pittsburgh, 955 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 3: who just cannot stop the run. Pittsburgh's run defense is atrocious. 956 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, love Vegas. Love it at this number. 957 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: Wow? All right? The Eagles minus five and a half 958 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: against the Bucks. Okay, I don't know if this is 959 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: the game you're talking about. This one opened at seven, 960 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: it's now five and a half. They have one shared 961 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 1: opponent in the Vikings, and they both won. Philly dominated 962 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: physically against Minnesota twenty more plays for force, fumbles, four sacks, 963 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty yards rushing. Kirk looked amazing against 964 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: this defense, look amazing against the Bucks defense. The Bucks 965 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: were outplayed. They got very lucky. Of one hundred and 966 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: forty four head coaches Todd Balls's in the past twenty years, 967 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: Todd balls is one hundred and forty two of one 968 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven against the spread. 969 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 2: What does that mean He's horrible? Yeah, yeah, it sucks. 970 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 3: So this is my simon, says Bett. I wanted it 971 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: at six the Bucks. It's that five and a half, 972 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 3: damn it. So yeah, I still like it five and 973 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 3: a half. I was hoping to get the six. This 974 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 3: Bucks team if the Eagles were fully healthy, I'd make 975 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 3: this number seven. The Eagles are banged up in the secondary. 976 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: We might be without our number one, our number two corner, 977 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 3: and our number three corner going up against Godwin and 978 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 3: Mike Evans, like this is a huge deal to this 979 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 3: Bucks team in that offense. So yeah, Eagles, Eagles might 980 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 3: win this game. They're always gonna have the opening for 981 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 3: a back door, and seeing how this Bucks team plays 982 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 3: and how Baker's played, this is a good spot to 983 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 3: back them. So the goddamn pros have coming. They bet 984 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 3: it down now. I got it at six six and 985 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 3: a half. It sucks now it's five and a half. 986 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 3: You could wait, but I'd grab it just in case 987 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 3: I could see I could see it keep dropping. The 988 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: Eagles have a lot of injuries right now. We do science. 989 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 3: I think the Eagles will win this game. It's just covering. 990 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 3: That's that's a big ask them going down there. I 991 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 3: guess his Tampa team that the Pros nailed, and it's 992 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 3: it's worked out to what are they all predicted of? 993 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 3: Like you know they're gonna if they're gonna play bad teams, 994 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to be in these games and 995 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 3: be competitive and when they play good teams, I don't 996 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 3: think they're gonna be as bad as people perceived. Eagles 997 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 3: last year are a totally different team. They were fully healthy, 998 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 3: They had a ton of really good veterans. This Eagles 999 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 3: team has a lot of young starters and they have 1000 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 3: a lot of injuries to this team that couldn't really 1001 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 3: afford injuries. So yeah, I'm pissed, it's I'm pissed it's 1002 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 3: blow six, but it's still making my assignment, says I. 1003 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: Just I love the Bucks in the spot against an 1004 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: overvalued Eagles team that everyone's gonna betting this one. It 1005 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: feels like just just what happened on Sunday Nay with 1006 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 3: that Miami team where the public got the right they 1007 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 3: hit that one, but you know they're not always gonna 1008 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 3: get it right, just like we learned last night with 1009 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 3: the Browns, Like they're stupid things that happen in these games. 1010 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: And it feels like that's what is this Bucks number. 1011 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: It's like the public is still thinking of this Eagles 1012 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 3: team as this team they were last year, and even 1013 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 3: you were chat you were texting me about it, like 1014 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 3: this Eagles offense something doesn't look right about this offense. 1015 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 3: This ain't the team you can run for two hundred 1016 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 3: yards on. The Bucks are not the team you can 1017 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 3: just run for two hundred yards against. 1018 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: They have a really good run defense. So love this 1019 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: number for this Bucks team. 1020 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: All right? All right? I was actually thinking you would say, 1021 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: because the line is steaming towards the Eagles, because the 1022 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: wise guys have been coming in on the Bucks, do 1023 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: we just keep waiting until this gets low enough when 1024 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: we take the Eagles. 1025 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 3: I don't think I'll get down to three. That's where 1026 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 3: my break appoint would be. I had this game at four, 1027 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 3: so I have the number that should be at four. 1028 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: So it would take a lot for me to want 1029 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 3: to take the Eagles here just because I do. 1030 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: I do hate this spot for this Eagles team. 1031 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 3: It's just everything about this game stinks of a trap 1032 00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: game for the Eagles. 1033 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: Listen Sunday night. I'm begging you, if you listen to 1034 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: this podcast on Tuesday and Thursday and you're not listening Sunday, 1035 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 1: then you're only getting sixty six percent of the value. 1036 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: And we are about value. On the Favorites podcast Sunday Night, 1037 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: we said take the Rams plus six and a half 1038 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: against the Bengals. This line is now two and a half. 1039 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: Questions about Joe Burrow's health, both short term and potentially 1040 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: long term. The Rams have looked good. They're no name offense, 1041 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: They've got a rookie receiver whose odds are now like 1042 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,439 Speaker 1: six to one to win offensive Rookie of the Year. 1043 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 1: Are we staying away from this until we get more intel? 1044 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: Like at this number, you know, there's not real value 1045 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: for us. 1046 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you missed it. 1047 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 3: I mean we gave out six and a half and 1048 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: then I reposted the video and I think it was 1049 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 3: still three and a half. You could have got that 1050 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 3: number on the Rams too, and now it's down to two, 1051 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 3: which is kind of a hedge by the books because 1052 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 3: I don't think they know either, because if he was 1053 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 3: officially out, we probably would have heard from media and 1054 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 3: this number would just be ad a pay like this 1055 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: to me would be either Pick or Rams minus one, 1056 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 3: and then the value is probably gonna shift to the Bengals. 1057 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 3: Especially if you got that early number six and a 1058 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 3: half on the Rams. It's like, how do you not 1059 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 3: take the other side and try to hit the middle. So, yeah, 1060 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 3: the Rams. It's a great feeling where like I'll get 1061 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 3: a lot of stupid shit wrong in the preseason. But 1062 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 3: the Rams, I just for months kept saying myself, like, 1063 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: this team isn't going to be bad as perceived by 1064 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 3: the public. They were in that four nine ers game. 1065 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 3: I mean that it was right there for them to 1066 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 3: steal that game. Stafford threw his first pick and like 1067 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 3: a year and a half and that kind of flipped 1068 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 3: the game. So say what you want about McVeigh, Like 1069 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 3: I knew he would love these this kind of team 1070 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 3: and coaching them up, and he's really embraced I mean, 1071 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 3: cam Akers whatever he said. He's like, let's see if 1072 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 3: get rid of this guy, I'll have a different running back. 1073 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 3: Like I don't want any of these people that just 1074 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 3: aren't with us on this journey. And you know, it 1075 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 3: might have been a complaint about touches, whatever it was. 1076 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 3: I love the Rams mentality of no, you're not even 1077 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 3: gonna dress like you're gone, Like they they literally didn't 1078 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 3: let him come to the game last week and didn't matter. 1079 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 3: Like that kid Williams looks like a good running back 1080 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 3: for them. So yeah, this this RAMS team, this faceless team, 1081 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,959 Speaker 3: Like Chad said, we loved the number. That's what sucks 1082 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 3: so much is this was going to be a play 1083 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 3: at six and a half for sure, and I was 1084 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 3: like the public was going to come in on this 1085 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 3: Bengals team in a get right spot and it was 1086 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,919 Speaker 3: going to be great taking this Rams team. And now, yeah, 1087 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 3: if this, if it is Joe out and it's their 1088 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 3: backup quarterback, probably gonna end up on the Bengals at 1089 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 3: minus you know, or a plus one plus two at home. 1090 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 3: The Bengals just starting as bad as they've looked. I 1091 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 3: think it's more on Joe Burrow. 1092 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 2: Joe. 1093 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 3: Joe's the one that just hasn't looked right. So Bengals 1094 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 3: defense might not be as good as they've been this 1095 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 3: past couple of years. That's fair to say too. Like 1096 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 3: they've struggled these first two weeks, but they went up 1097 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 3: against a divisional foe in the Browns and then the Ravens. 1098 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 3: Like that's a really hard stop start for that defense. 1099 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 3: So right right there with you, Chad, where it's like 1100 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 3: we wanted to be on the Rams. 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