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Speaker 1: Welcome to this edition of the Fish Bites podcast. Please

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate the feedback. We're two weeks into the

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Speaker 1: baseball season and the Marlins seted up ten and eight,

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Speaker 1: good enough for second in the NL East. Connor, how

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Speaker 1: would you assess the Marlins start so far.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've obviously the Marlins have had their rough patches,

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Speaker 2: but I think ten and eight was pretty good. I

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Speaker 2: think this past weekend in San Diego, Sunday's win was

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Speaker 2: huge to be going into the sixth inning down three

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Speaker 2: to nothing, really being shut down. They were kind of

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Speaker 2: being shut down a weekend by a Padre starting rotation.

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Speaker 2: That's not something that should be too scary. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm of the belief that the San Diego Padres are

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Speaker 2: going to end up with the worst record in baseball

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Speaker 2: this year. So it's a good job to kind of

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Speaker 2: have the offense explode in the sixth inning, including Justin

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Speaker 2: Borr kind of getting off the shot with the three

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Speaker 2: run homer, winning that game Sunday and winning the series

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Speaker 2: to get to ten and eight. Obviously, they're being helped

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Speaker 2: again by some Mets injuries this season. A lot of

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Speaker 2: guys in New York have already gone down missed some

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Speaker 2: time with injury, so that's helping the Marlin sit in

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Speaker 2: second place behind the Nationals, who are red hot right now.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, they got a plus twelve run differential

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Speaker 2: But you know, the bullpen had a shaky start, but

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Speaker 2: it's starting to come together, and I think the rotation

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Speaker 2: has been a surprise so so far. I think they've

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Speaker 2: ten and eight and second place through eighteen games would

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Speaker 2: be pretty good for a team that you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: didn't look like it was going to be a bottom dweller,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting because if the Marlins didn't

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Speaker 1: different approach to how we think the Marlins are doing

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Speaker 1: right now, because if you drop two out of three

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Speaker 1: Two teams that are below five hundred, you question what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the team. But luckily they were able

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Speaker 1: to take two out of three of the Padres. And yes,

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Speaker 1: Seattle was pretty hot coming off of sweep in Texas.

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Speaker 1: So overall, I think the rotation has been a pleasant surprise.

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Speaker 1: And yes, the Marlins bats have been hot, but it

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Speaker 1: seemed to be streaky. The Marlins have the highest average

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Speaker 1: scoring until the sixth a lot of games, so it

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Speaker 1: seems to be a consistency issue. But the guys that

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Speaker 1: the Marlins need to hit the ball seem to be

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Speaker 1: maybe it's something that might last the whole year. And

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Speaker 1: what do you think, Connor, do you think the rot

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Speaker 2: Of the year. I mean, I think a very I

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Speaker 1: And a huge key to that, I think has been

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is so that you kind of you

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Speaker 2: As you said, the strikeout rate is up, you know,

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Speaker 2: you talked about Janichi Tazawa, he just hasn't looked like

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting point because David Phelps was still running

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Speaker 1: another sort of kind of disappointment that a lot of

428
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Speaker 1: people overlook has been Dustin mcgallan. He's been that supposed

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Speaker 1: to be that long ending guy and he's come into games,

430
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Speaker 1: and he really hasn't kept the fish in games. And

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Speaker 1: if the Marlins have one thing in their farm system

432
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Speaker 1: or like some depth, it is relievers. So like you said,

433
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Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys are chomping at the

434
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Speaker 1: bit to get that call up. If there's any position

435
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Speaker 1: that the Marlins have the flexibility to call someone up in,

436
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Speaker 1: it's relievers. So that's something that will be interesting to

437
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Speaker 1: watch and see how the Marlins handle that. Because they

438
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Speaker 1: also have Nick Wickrean who we got to mention, who

439
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: also had some success last year and would be a

440
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Speaker 1: great guy to bring up and get some outs of

441
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Speaker 1: if Taizawa isn't cutting it. So there's more than enough

442
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Speaker 1: options in the minor leagues as well to bolster that bullpen.

443
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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's too too uh or I

444
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Speaker 1: do think it's too early to say the bullpen isn't

445
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Speaker 1: what we thought it would be. But it's definitely starting

446
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Speaker 1: to look like it might not be that super pen,

447
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Speaker 1: and it's something to definitely look at closely. Another sort

448
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Speaker 1: of disappointment so far has been each yer Row, and

449
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Speaker 1: some might think that his career is basically over. He's

450
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Speaker 1: sitting one eighty two with one home run in seven

451
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Speaker 1: strikeouts to start this season, and he he really looks

452
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Speaker 1: lost at the plate, which is something I don't think

453
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Speaker 1: anyone's ever been able to say about each Euro Suzuki

454
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Speaker 1: and in the major leagues or in Japan for that matter,

455
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Speaker 1: And he really just does look lost. His bat looks slow,

456
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Speaker 1: he seems to be cheating a little bit out front

457
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Speaker 1: and rolling over and chasing a lot of bad pitches.

458
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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, it might there it might not be an

459
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Speaker 1: overreaction to say that each Euro's career is over because

460
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Speaker 1: he really does not look like he can catch up

461
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Speaker 1: to a major league fastball anymore. And it's sad because

462
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Speaker 1: you know, coming into the season, he said he wanted

463
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Speaker 1: to play till he was fifty, and no one was

464
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Speaker 1: going to tell him he couldn't do that. But if

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Speaker 1: each Euro continues to hit at this rate, I wouldn't

466
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Speaker 1: be shocked to see the Marlins part ways with him.

467
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Speaker 1: But you know, each hero has more more opportunity than

468
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Speaker 1: maybe the average role player because he's Eachiro Suzuki. But

469
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Speaker 1: at some point it's a valuable roster spot the Marlins

470
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Speaker 1: might have to look to move on from him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna find many bigger Eachiro fans outside

472
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Speaker 2: of Seattle than myself. Just always kind of been to

473
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Speaker 2: be transparent, always kind of been my my favorite player

474
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Speaker 2: that wasn't on my favorite team growing up when he

475
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Speaker 2: was with the Mariners. But you know, the one eighty

476
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Speaker 2: two average is one thing. You know, it could be

477
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Speaker 2: put to just a bad start for each row he's

478
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Speaker 2: not you know, he's no longer in a starting role,

479
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Speaker 2: so he has to kind of figure out how to

480
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Speaker 2: come off the bench and hit. And you know, that

481
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be too much of a problem. A guy like

482
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Speaker 2: that could kind of figure it out. The real issue

483
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Speaker 2: is that he hasn't drawn a walk yet, and his

484
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Speaker 2: on base percentage is exactly his average, which is one

485
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Speaker 2: eighty two. And that's very concerning the fact that he's

486
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Speaker 2: struck out seven times and hasn't walked at all. You know,

487
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Speaker 2: that's kind of not the echi Ro that people have

488
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Speaker 2: known his entire career. He's a guy that's been incredibly

489
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Speaker 2: difficult to strike out and a guy who you know

490
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Speaker 2: doesn't draw a ton of walks because he's not a

491
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Speaker 2: big power hitter who pitchers are scared to throw the

492
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Speaker 2: ball in the middle. Of the plate too, but he

493
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Speaker 2: had you know, he's had a great batter's eye throughout

494
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Speaker 2: his career and has been able to draw a good

495
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Speaker 2: amount of walks. So I think that's a very concern part.

496
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Speaker 2: For now, I think he stays as the fourth outfielder

497
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Speaker 2: for Miami. He brings the experience, He can still play defense,

498
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Speaker 2: he still has the arm, although his arm's not the

499
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Speaker 2: arm it was ten years ago. He can still throw

500
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Speaker 2: some guys out. But if it continues like this and

501
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Speaker 2: he continues to hit under two hundred and he, you know,

502
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Speaker 2: isn't getting on base other ways besides base hits, Marlins

503
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: will have to think about, you know, cutting ties with

504
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Speaker 2: each Row. And the one thing with him is I

505
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Speaker 2: think he's a little more tradeable just because even if

506
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Speaker 2: each hero is hitting you know, one to ninety in June,

507
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Speaker 2: there are still gonna be teams who are gonna think

508
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Speaker 2: about maybe making a trade for him. Now, obviously it

509
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Speaker 2: would be a small trade like a something like a

510
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: minor league prospect, a single a guy for each e Row.

511
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Speaker 2: Even if the Marlins were in contention, I can still

512
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Speaker 2: see them making this trade because he's a guy you

513
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Speaker 2: can bring into your team and you know, it is

514
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: only going to bring good things to your lovehouse, and

515
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: he can still get your hits from here to there.

516
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Speaker 2: The one thing about it is, you know, a lot

517
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Speaker 2: a lot of teams have veteran guys on their bench,

518
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Speaker 2: especially in the National League, who are used mostly as

519
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Speaker 2: pinch hitters, and a lot of them are guys who

520
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: you know, might be on younger teams but have had

521
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Speaker 2: a lot of playoff experience, which is what they bring

522
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Speaker 2: to the team. Each Row really doesn't have playoff experience.

523
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Speaker 2: I mean, his rookie year with the Mariners, they won

524
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Speaker 2: the most games or excuse me, yeah, his rookie year

525
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Speaker 2: with the Mariners, he went to the playoffs. That was

526
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Speaker 2: the last time Seattle's been to the playoffs since then.

527
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Speaker 2: I think he went with the Yankees in twenty twelve,

528
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Speaker 2: and I'm not one hundred percent sure he may have

529
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Speaker 2: went with them in twenty thirteen as well. But that's

530
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Speaker 2: about it. I mean, he doesn't have much playoff experience

531
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Speaker 2: to kind of help these young Marlins guys if they

532
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Speaker 2: were to get into the postseason. But if he continues

533
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Speaker 2: to hit one eighty two and not get on base.

534
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Speaker 2: As much as I love each Row, and as much

535
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Speaker 2: as I want to defend him, and I think he's

536
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: one of the best hitters in Major League history, it's

537
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: gonna be tough for the Marlins to keep him around.

538
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Speaker 1: Well, that roster spot is just so valuable, especially when

539
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Speaker 1: you're keeping less, you know, bench players because of that

540
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: huge bullpen. So if one of those guys on on

541
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Speaker 1: the bench isn't hitting, you got to kind of keep

542
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: a short leash on them because you only have five

543
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: guys off the bench. So and one of them is

544
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Speaker 1: your backup catcher A j Ellis, who you can't really

545
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: count on to pinch hit very much. And so that's

546
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: that's the big problem. You know, the Marlins decide that

547
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: they want to go with the extra arm, which is fine,

548
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: but that means the bench needs to be hitting, and

549
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: each year Row could very easily turn it around. He

550
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: never seizes to amaze me with what he can do,

551
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: but he you know, there's something to be said about

552
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: the eye test, and he's failing meest And I don't

553
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: want to get too ahead of myself with all the

554
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: advanced stats because he's only had such a small sample size,

555
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: but just in terms of swings and misses and chasing

556
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: balls out of the zone. He's doing it at a

557
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: higher rate than he ever has in his career. And

558
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: maybe he's pressing a little bit because he's not getting

559
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: consistent at bats, but that that's a valuable spot on

560
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: the bench and each year Ow needs to turn it

561
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: around pretty quickly if he wants to keep his spot

562
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: on the Marlins, in my opinion, but the Marlins have

563
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: shown a lot of good faith in each row and

564
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: did a lot to bring him to Miami, so I

565
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: do not think that he'll have such a short leash.

566
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I think he will be given ample opportunity to show

567
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: that he can still play. But it might it might

568
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: be time for each yero to start pressing a little

569
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Speaker 1: bit and look to turn things around. Danny Echeveria went

570
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: down earlier in the season and he returned and JT.

571
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Speaker 1: Riddle was called up to replace him, and aside from

572
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Speaker 1: Riddle's walk off home run, he only had one other

573
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Speaker 1: hit in fourteen at bats. But some are still saying

574
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Speaker 1: that JT. Riddle could be the shortstop of the Marlins future.

575
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Speaker 1: I think that's an overreaction. I said in my previous

576
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Speaker 1: in our previous podcast that I think a Danny Etcheveria

577
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: is not the guy for the Marlins at shortstop, and

578
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: I will stand by that statement, but I do not

579
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Speaker 1: see JT. Riddle being the future at shortstop. He it

580
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: was a small sample size for us to see of JT. Riddle,

581
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Speaker 1: but I don't see much more of a bat in

582
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Speaker 1: him than a Danny Ncheveria, and he's not gonna be

583
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: much better of a defender, so I don't think he's

584
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Speaker 1: the answer. I've been kind of one of those guys

585
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: that's been pushing for the Marlins to find an answer

586
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Speaker 1: at shortstop. I know that that's one of the toughest

587
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: positions to find, you know, a good hitter at and

588
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: in a long term, you know solution at that position.

589
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: But I do think the Marlins should go shortstop in

590
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Speaker 1: this year's draft if there's the right guy there, whether

591
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Speaker 1: it's in the second round, third round, or possibly even

592
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Speaker 1: the first round. I know you mentioned one of the

593
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Speaker 1: guys from your school, University of Maryland, the starting shortstop

594
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: there is looking like a good prospect. I forget his

595
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: name slips my mind, but the Marlins do need to

596
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: draft a shortstop in my opinion, because JT. Riddle doesn't

597
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: look like the answer. You know, he's twenty six years old.

598
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Speaker 1: He looks like he could be a decent role player.

599
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: He plays some good defense, but at the plate, aside

600
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Speaker 1: from that one walk off home run, he did not

601
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Speaker 1: look like he was a major league hitter yet. And

602
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Speaker 1: at twenty six years old, how much more time do

603
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: you need to figure it out? So I think the

604
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: Marlins long term answer at shortstop isn't even in their

605
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: organization yet.

606
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's a possibility. And I think,

607
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: you know, Hetcheveria brings good defense obviously, but it's not

608
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: superb defense. He makes a lot of flashy plays, but

609
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: overall he's not one of the top five fielding shortstops

610
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: in the game, which I think when you aren't bringing

611
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: the bat, I think, unless you're one of the top

612
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: five shortstops defensively, like a guy like Andrelton Simmons, who

613
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, he's been hitting a little bit better lately

614
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: in his career last season and through this season so

615
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: far for uh with the Angels now, But even when

616
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: he wasn't hitting, Alton Simmons was arguably the best defensive

617
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: shortstop in baseball. So you know, although the Braves did

618
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: trade them they or did trade him. They only did

619
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Speaker 2: that because they had Dansby Swanson coming up through the

620
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: minor league system. And of course the Angels haven't thought

621
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: about moving him yet. He's implemented as their everyday shortstop

622
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: without a problem. But guy like Getchaveria, you know, you

623
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: could argue maybe he's a top ten defensive shortstop, but

624
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: he's not really doesn't bring much with the bat at

625
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: this point in his career, and you know that's an issue.

626
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: And Riddle obviously had the big moment his first career

627
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: homer as a walk off homer. That's obviously a very

628
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: cool thing in your first time you get caught up

629
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Speaker 2: to the big leagues. But you know, as you said,

630
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: he brought the defense as well, but the bat just

631
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: wasn't there. But it's such a small sample size that

632
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: I'd need to see more from him at the major

633
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: league level. But I'm with you, I think outside the

634
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: organizations where the next shortstop comes from. Problem with that

635
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: Chaverie is I don't think you can really get much

636
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: for him in a trade scenario, which means you may

637
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: have to hang on to him, you know, as long

638
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: as his contract is with the Marlins. But you know,

639
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: as you said, the guy from Maryland, Kevin Smith. Baseball

640
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: America just put out there top one hundred draft prospects

641
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Speaker 2: for this year. Smith was rated eighty fifth, so he

642
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Speaker 2: could be a guy where you know, the Marlins don't

643
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Speaker 2: necessarily go for the short stop in the first round.

644
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Speaker 2: I would hope they go for starting pitching in the

645
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Speaker 2: first two rounds of this June's draft. But in the

646
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: third round, if a guy like Kevin Smith is there,

647
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: who's a great defender with good power, he's a good

648
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: hitter as a short stop, you know, that could be

649
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: a place they go. And maybe if you know, Hetcheveria

650
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: is their guy for a couple more years until they

651
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Speaker 2: breed and you know, a next shortstop to come through

652
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: the system and be the guy, because Hetcheveria gives solid defense,

653
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Speaker 2: as I said, but I just don't think he has

654
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Speaker 2: what it takes at the plate to be in every

655
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Speaker 2: day starting shortstop in the major leagues.

656
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Speaker 1: And if you're the Marlins, what stops you from starting

657
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: Miguel Rojas at shortstop? Should Etcheverias continue to struggle because Rojas,

658
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: in his small sample size this year, is hit the

659
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: ball really well and has showed an ability to hit

660
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: the ball in the last couple of seasons. Might not

661
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: be quite as good of a defender as Echeveria, but

662
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: his best position defensively is most likely shortstop. And if

663
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Speaker 1: you're the Marlins and Etcheveria continues to struggle, do you

664
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Speaker 1: give Miguel Rojas a chance to be the everyday shortstop?

665
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: I think they they do. The problem is hedge Veria's

666
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: in there starting shortstop for a while now, and it's

667
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Speaker 2: gonna be a tough move for him, especially coming back

668
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: from injury, to just give Rojas the spot or Rojas

669
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: in the injury while the injuries of Heecheveria and Prado

670
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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season, you know, was getting

671
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: a lot of playing time in the Marlins infield, and

672
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: he was hitting very well. I mean, Rojas hitting two

673
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: sixty eight and forty one at bats this season hadn't

674
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: you know, left the yard, but not a guy obviously

675
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: known for his power, but with a six fifty seven ops,

676
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: you know, he hasn't been too bad at the plate,

677
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: and I think he should get a chance. You know,

678
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: he could even be a situation where they kind of

679
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: flip Roles where you know Etcheveria comes in the seventh

680
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: inning and plays defensively, maybe gets himself one at bat

681
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the game, But I think Rojas

682
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: could get a shot. The other opportunities there for Derek

683
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: Dietrich as well. I mean, I know, out of all

684
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: the infield positions, he's probably the most shaky at shortstop,

685
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Speaker 2: but you never know he could be able to in there.

686
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: There's always the slight possibility that Dee Gordon could be

687
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: moved back to short, although I think he's much more

688
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: comfortable at second base, but that's always at option as well.

689
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: So the Marlins have a couple options right now. But

690
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I just don't think at any Etraveria

691
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: is the future shortstop for Miami.

692
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Speaker 1: And I'm a proponent of sacrificing a little fielding for

693
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: a bat, and I know the Marlins aren't, with Perry

694
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Hill being the fielding guru over there, but I would

695
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: not be opposed to a de Gordon moved to short

696
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: and Dietrich at second, because that provides a lot more

697
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: offense in that infield. But it just seems like a

698
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: long shot with the way Perry Hill is with his

699
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: fielding and shifts and all those metrics with defense. The

700
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Marlins really take a lot of pride in how they

701
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: play defense. But the final, I guess topic that we

702
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: wanted to cover is our own. Michael Stevenson wrote earlier

703
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Speaker 1: today about the possibility of marceloz Gonna being traded, and

704
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Speaker 1: I personally think that Ozuna will remain a Marlin for

705
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Speaker 1: at least the remainder of this season unless the Marlins

706
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Speaker 1: have some utter collapse and are not in contention, because

707
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Speaker 1: he's he has, you know, two more years of control,

708
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: two and a half that is, and he's a free

709
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: agent after twenty nineteen, so he's a really really appealing target.

710
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Speaker 1: He's young, he has not even hit his potential yet

711
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: in some in a lot of people's minds, and he's cheap,

712
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Speaker 1: and that's probably the most important thing of all is

713
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: he's cheap. And so a young, controllable, power hitting corner

714
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Speaker 1: outfielder could net enough prospects to revamp that dead Marlins

715
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Speaker 1: farm system. And should the Marlins be in contention, it's

716
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: a moot point because Marcello Zuna won't be going anywhere.

717
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: Because if the Marlins are in contention, that means Marcelo

718
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Zuna is hitting the crap out of the ball and

719
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: playing great baseball. But if the Marlins are not in contention,

720
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Speaker 1: it could the trade could happen as early as this year,

721
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: but an extension seems very very unlikely with Ozuna being

722
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Speaker 1: a Scott Boris client, So I would not be surprised

723
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Speaker 1: to see Ozuna traded in the next couple of years,

724
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Speaker 1: and if the Marlins aren't in contention, it could be

725
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Speaker 1: as early as this year.

726
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, it's a lot to look

727
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: forward at, just because you know, we're only eighteen games

728
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: into the season. Going into Monday night, they'd have a

729
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Speaker 2: tweet sent in about kind of the trades from at

730
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Speaker 2: Underscore teen twenty three. So if the Marlins are in

731
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Speaker 2: contention at the trade deadline, how would you improve the team?

732
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Speaker 2: I kind of want to, you know, to start talking

733
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Speaker 2: about maybe if they aren't in contention, you know that

734
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: kind of connects to the Ozuna thing. If they aren't

735
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: in contention, I mean marcell Ozuna as a trade piece,

736
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Speaker 2: it is probably the most becomes the most sought after

737
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: bat on the trade, especially if he continues to hit

738
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Speaker 2: like this. You would like to think if he's still

739
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: hitting like this. The Marlins are in contention because the

740
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: lineup they've put together, but you know, injuries can happen,

741
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: things can happen where he could still be hitting well

742
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: and the Marlins aren't playing so well. And you talked

743
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: about the years of control, the contract that's very cheat,

744
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: the ability to play the outfield, hit righty's and lefties.

745
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Speaker 2: I mean, he could bring back a big load of

746
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Speaker 2: prospects for the Marlins. They wanted to revamp that farm system.

747
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Speaker 2: And the other thing is with the big contract they

748
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 2: got on the books for Stanton, I mean, Yelich has

749
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: a friendly contract now, but he'll you know, they want

750
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 2: to keep him in that outfield obviously, and a couple

751
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: other guys Prado just recently signed JT. Realmuto is going

752
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: to need some money at some point. One or two

753
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: of these guys is going to be left out of

754
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: the equation, and kind of feels like Azuna might be

755
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: one of them. Although it's you know, a couple of

756
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: years away, so we would obviously talk about this much

757
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: closer to the trade deadline when we get the July

758
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: but it's a very real possible ability that the Marlins

759
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: could trade him, just because of the control, the price

760
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: and how well he hits. He could bring back so

761
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: much to a farm system that really needs so much.

762
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Speaker 2: Because you know, this team is built to compete now,

763
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Speaker 2: but this is not a team built to win late now.

764
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Speaker 2: Like this team could get to the playoffs, don't get

765
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: me wrong, but they're not built to win a World

766
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: Series yet. And I think to be built to win

767
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: a World Series, I mean theo Epstein basically set the

768
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: precedent with the Cubs last year. You know, you can

769
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Speaker 2: go out and get some players, don't get me wrong,

770
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Speaker 2: but your core guys kind of have to don't even

771
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: have to really be drafted because a lot of those

772
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: Cubs guys, you know, Addison Russell, Anthony Rizzo, they weren't

773
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Speaker 2: drafted by the Cubs, but the Cubs acquired them in

774
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Speaker 2: trades while they were still in the minors, developed them

775
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: in their system, and then brought them up. And I

776
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Speaker 2: think if you want to win a World Series, that's

777
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Speaker 2: kind of what you how you have to build a

778
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: team is maybe you trade for these prospects, but then

779
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: as you develop them, it kind of become your prospects.

780
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Speaker 2: And one guy that could bring back so much for

781
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Speaker 2: Miami is Marcelo.

782
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Speaker 1: Zuna, and that approach by Epstein seemed to be an

783
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Speaker 1: effective one because he kept together that core of the

784
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Speaker 1: Cubs team that you know, because the Cubs were in

785
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: a similar position kind of in between, you know, where

786
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Speaker 1: you're you're not doing terribly, but you're also not good

787
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Speaker 1: enough to win now like you were saying, and win late,

788
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Speaker 1: and so he Epstein wanted to keep together that core,

789
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Speaker 1: so he mostly went after young prospects that were almost

790
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: major league ready, like Addison Russell and Anthony Rizzo. And

791
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Speaker 1: that could be the right approach for the Marlins. Should

792
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Speaker 1: they trade Marcelo Zuna, get someone gets get a pitcher

793
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Speaker 1: or now another outfield or that that's close to major

794
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: league major league ready and that could be the best move.

795
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Speaker 1: But like we said, we might be getting a little

796
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: of ahead of ourselves. But with that Twitter question is

797
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: a good question. It's never too early to start speculating

798
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: how you can improve your team. And should the Marlins

799
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Speaker 1: be in contention at the deadline. Obviously Marcelo Zuna won't

800
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Speaker 1: go anywhere, but how would the Marlins improve their team?

801
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: And it's an interesting question because we go back to

802
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: the weak farm system. It would be really hard for

803
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Speaker 1: the Marlins to improve their team should they be in

804
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: contention at the trade deadline, other than maybe trading Dietrich

805
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: or Rojas. But I don't know what that gets in return,

806
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: he said, maybe each year earlier that's going to get

807
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: a low level prospect. I'm not sure what you can

808
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: trade to improve your team if you're the Marlins.

809
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if they needed to, they would have about

810
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: enough to go get a middle relief type guy that's

811
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Speaker 2: been having a good season on a bad team, basically

812
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Speaker 2: almost a Tazawa type guy who's just having a better

813
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: season than Tazawa. I mean, because you don't need, you know,

814
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: a big prospect to make that deal. But other than that,

815
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Speaker 2: as you said, if they are looking for you know,

816
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: they're coming down the stretch and they're, you know, neck

817
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: and neck with somebody in a wild card race come July,

818
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be able to go out and get

819
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Speaker 2: a big starting pitcher to bolster the rotation. You know,

820
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: they're they're gonna have to look at some much cheaper options,

821
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Speaker 2: and that's gonna hurt the Marlins a little bit going

822
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: down the stretch because a team like the Nationals who

823
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: they could be competing with in the division. They already

824
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: kind of have that rotation, but they still have some

825
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: Even though they gave a lot of their best, you know,

826
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Speaker 2: guys in the farm system up for Adam Eaton in

827
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 2: that deal, they're they're still gonna be looking for bullpen

828
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: pieces and they have guys to give up. And then

829
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Speaker 2: some of the some of the wildcard teams that could

830
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: be in the wildcard contention, like the Mets, still have

831
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: a solid farm system that they can pick from and

832
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: make trades with other teams in the NL Central. I mean,

833
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: teams like the Pirates still have a prospect that they

834
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: can trade from, same with a team like the Rockies

835
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: who's had a good start. So it's really gonna put

836
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 2: the Marlins behind the eight ball come that time. Obviously,

837
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Speaker 2: we'll talk a lot more about it when that time

838
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: comes and if the Marlins are in contention, but it's

839
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: gonna it'll be a struggle this season if they need

840
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: to improve the team to kind of make the playoffs.

841
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: So this core group they have now is kind of

842
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: gonna be the group pretty much the whole season, barring injury,

843
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: because they really just don't have the farm system to

844
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: go out and get other players.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, we can talk about it when

846
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Speaker 1: the time comes, because a lot of teams that aren't

847
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: in contention might have a older veteran, you know, pitcher

848
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: that's overachieving a little bit, and maybe the Marlins can

849
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: get for a couple of low A prospects. So when

850
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: the time comes, that there could be you know, a

851
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: cheap starting pitching option for the Fish. But now we're

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Speaker 1: going to segue into our final segment, and that is

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Speaker 1: my favorite it's the hot takes, and my hot take

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Speaker 1: of this week is that the Marlins should go after

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Speaker 1: Chris Carter. And I know that Justin Boorr is starting

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00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: to swing the bat a little bit better, and he

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Speaker 1: just blasted that ball yesterday, you know, Sunday. But I

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Speaker 1: do not know if Justin Boorr is a full time

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00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: MLB first baseman and neither is Chris Carter. But that

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00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: could be a really powerful platoon. Should you have Chris

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00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: Carter playing first base against the lefties and Boor against

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00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: the righties. That platoon could combine for forty home runs.

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00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: And Chris Carter is playing with the Yankees, not getting

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00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: you know, every day playing time, so him just crush

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00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: the ball like four hundred and fifty feet, But that

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00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: was his first home run of the year. He's not

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Speaker 1: swinging the ball great or swinging the bat great rather,

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Speaker 1: and should he, you know, be having a mediocre season

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Speaker 1: in a month or two, maybe the Yankees even move

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Speaker 1: on from him, maybe they cut him, maybe the Marlins

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00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: can trade for him for a low level prospect. I

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00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: just think that Justin Boorr has not shown the ability

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00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: to hit lefties, and I think it's fairly evident, and

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00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: he's barely showed the ability to hit right He's and

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00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Justin Moore might not even be the answer for at

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00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: first base long term for the Marlins, but that's for

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Speaker 1: another time. But I think Chris Carter put tuning with

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00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: Justin Borer takes a lot of pressure off of him

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00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: and provides a lot more power to an infield that

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00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have that much power.

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00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a solid point to bring up.

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00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: I think Chris Carter's time with the Yankees, as you said,

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00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: he hasn't gotten too much playing time. It really hit

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00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: how much he plays for the Yankees, and if he

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00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: stays a Yankee this season really depends on the health

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00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: of Greg Bird I mean, if Greg Bird is healthy

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00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: for the Yankees, he's their everyday first basement pretty much,

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00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: with maybe Chris Carter just playing against lefties sometimes, and

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00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: Chris Carter maybecomes expendable and the Marlins could go get

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00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: him if you know, you know, Bor's hitting a little better,

891
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: but that average is still under two hundred. But I

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00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: could see them, you know, the Marlins still going after

893
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: a right handed hitting first base when they could platoon with.

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00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: But on my side, for my hot take, I went

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Speaker 2: with the starting pitching, which we didn't talk about too

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00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: much on this episode of the podcast, but it has

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Speaker 2: been very good. Mine's at Way and Chen by the

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00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: end of the season, I know this is looking pretty

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00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: far ahead, but will be fully worth his contract that

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00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: he's signed before last year he signed for five years

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00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: eighty million with the Marlins. Obviously had a pretty disappointing

902
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen that was filled with injuries, gave up a

903
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: lot of runs, a lot of home runs. But this

904
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: season he's made three starts, he's gone sixteen innings. His

905
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: eras at three point nine to four and the whip

906
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: is just barely over one and his three point three

907
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: to three walk to or strikeout to walk ratio is

908
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: one of the better ones of his career, so he's

909
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: really missing bats more, getting more strikeouts. His hard contact percentage,

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00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: which is a stat kept by fangrafts to keep soft contact,

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00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: medium contact, and hard contact. Obviously you want more soft

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00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: and medium than hard contact. And the amount of hard

913
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: contact he's given up so far this year is down

914
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: almost ten percent from last season, and so he's able

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00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: to miss bats using his fastball a lot better like

916
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: he did in Baltimore, and I think by the end

917
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: of the season it's going to show that he was

918
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: worth that contract. And before we're done here, I just

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00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: wanted to bring up another Twitter question that we got

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00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: from at Pablo Sally. Thanks for the question. The question

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00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: was how would you rank the starting rotation from one

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00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: to five just right before we're done here? And for me,

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Speaker 2: I think right now I would put Chen at number one.

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00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: I know he doesn't have the best numbers on the

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Speaker 2: team right now, but with his experience and kind of

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Speaker 2: his peripherals, I put him at one. I'd then rank

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Speaker 2: Adam Conley at number two. He's got a three point

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00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: zero ERA this year and three starts took a no

929
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: hitter think into the sixth inning in one of his

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00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: starts so far this season. Then I'd rank Dan Strelli third,

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Speaker 2: especially after the fourteen strikeout appearance over the weekend. Fourth,

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Speaker 2: I put Edinson Volcz. Obviously he was the opening day starter,

933
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Speaker 2: but you know, the Marlins knew that they weren't going

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Speaker 2: to get the Volcz of twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: And then number five put Tom Kohler. You'd like to

936
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Speaker 2: see the way Cohler's pitching, You'd like to see the

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00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: Marlins have another option, at least ready if they needed

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Speaker 2: a guy like Jeff Locke or Jose Arena or even

939
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: Justin Nicolino could be that option. Urina's pitched pretty well

940
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: out of the bullpen so far. But that's how i'd

941
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Speaker 2: rank the the rotation, and how would you rank it

942
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: one to five Before we finish up here.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty much right in agreement with you, and my

944
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: only caveat being that Tom Kohler has the ability to

945
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: leap frog Edison Volcaz, and I think Volcaz could easily

946
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: be the fifth starter in the rotation because Tom Kohler

947
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: in the second half last year was phenomenal and in

948
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: the first half. He looked a lot like the Tom

949
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: Kohler what we're looking at right now. So right I

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00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: think you are spot on with your one through five.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there could be a shakeup with

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00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Tom Kohler being the fifth guy. He could slide into

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00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: the fourth spot. But otherwise I think it's going to

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00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: hold pretty true to that one through five there. But

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Speaker 1: the Marlins need Tom Kohler to be second half. Tom

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00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: coher last year and that's going to be huge for

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Speaker 1: them going forward. But that's going to wrap it up

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Speaker 1: for today in this podcast, in this episode of Fish Bites,

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Speaker 1: please like, subscribe, and rate our podcast on iTunes. We

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Speaker 1: tell us what we can do better, what we did well,

962
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Speaker 1: and we will try to answer them today. I know

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Speaker 1: we got two of them today. We'll always try to

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Speaker 1: get about two questions in every podcast. But I am

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Speaker 1: Ram Laton with Connor Newcomb, and we are looking forward

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Speaker 1: to getting back out here with you guys.