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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy Hour listeners. Another week, another week full

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Speaker 1: of drama, and we saw a lot go down in

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Speaker 1: the Women Tell All episode. But once again, we're going

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Speaker 1: to be starting this podcast a little bit differently, and

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Speaker 1: that's because today I won't actually be joined by Rachel.

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Speaker 1: She has been taking on so much in the world

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Speaker 1: of Batchelor Nation and I want to extend my support

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Speaker 1: needs it. She needs some time away. As much as she,

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Speaker 1: you know, loves to sit here and do recaps, most

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Speaker 1: of the time, she just needs to take a break

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Speaker 1: and so I'm really just trying to support her the

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Speaker 1: best way that I can. And so with that, instead

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Speaker 1: of having her on today, I'm actually going to be

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Speaker 1: bringing in two new reinforcements, two girls that have been

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Speaker 1: through this crazy journey on a couple of different seasons,

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Speaker 1: and that is with the clickbait girls. They're going to

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Speaker 1: be taking over Bachelor Happy Hour with me. So very shortly,

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Speaker 1: I will be bringing on both Tasia and Natasha to

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Speaker 1: recap everything that we saw go down with Women Till

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Speaker 1: All before we actually bring them on and get into that,

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Speaker 1: I want to say that we live in such a

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Speaker 1: crazy time, Like this past year has been heavy, it

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Speaker 1: has been eye opening, and the fact that we have

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Speaker 1: to sit here week by week and keep preaching to

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like the point isn't really resonating with

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Speaker 1: people all the time. Like I know a little bit

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Speaker 1: of what Rachel has been going through these past couple

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Speaker 1: with all of the nastiness and cruelty and hate and

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Speaker 1: just racist actions and comments that she's been ginning. But

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Speaker 1: I want to be the first to stay here. We

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Speaker 1: need to stop dragging each other. We need to just

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Speaker 1: be better. And the fact that people are continuing just

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Speaker 1: to talk shit and send terrible DMS and comments on

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Speaker 1: people's instagrams, like that's not how be in the situation

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Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. And if we ever

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Speaker 1: want unity and change and growth and more positivity and

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Speaker 1: inclusion in this world, we need to find a way

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Speaker 1: of like how to actually do that. And I think

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Speaker 1: I want to start by saying it's not through sending

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Speaker 1: messages necessarily through Instagram or through Facebook or Twitter, And

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Speaker 1: it's really taken a step back and seeing like what

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Speaker 1: can we do as individuals in our circles to bring

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Speaker 1: headed in the right direction that could potentially help that

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Speaker 1: is with the After the Final Rows, the finale that

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Speaker 1: you have been on top of Bachelor Nation and all

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Speaker 1: of the news that has happened in the past couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, you'll realize that we have a new host

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Speaker 1: filling in for Chris Harrison during the finale, and that

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Speaker 1: is with Emanuel at show. He is an incredible human

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Speaker 1: who not only is a New York Times bestseller for

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Speaker 1: his book called Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man, he

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Speaker 1: also has a series for that. He was the first

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Speaker 1: their podcast. So before you actually sit down and watch

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Speaker 1: yourself on who he is and what he speaks out about,

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Speaker 1: because he is all about inclusion and diversity, not only

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Speaker 1: within the franchise, both within our society. He sits down,

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Speaker 1: especially for people who look like me. So I'm highly

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Speaker 1: recommend please go check him out by his book, check

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Speaker 1: out his series on Instagram It's at Emanuel Acho, look

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Speaker 1: at his uncomfortable conversations and just get a feel for

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Speaker 1: him because he is incredible. We can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: the world of vater Nation in our society, but the

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Speaker 1: only way that we can potentially move forward and make

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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm hoping that speaking to you through

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to move forward, and that's

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Speaker 1: So before we really get in to today's episode, I

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Speaker 1: have to introduce two of my girls. They've been on

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Speaker 1: the podcast before, and I hope this is not the

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Speaker 1: last time because I absolutely love them. So welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, Tasia and Natasha. To see you. You're so

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Speaker 1: happy to be here on Bachelor Happy Hour. It's like

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Speaker 1: the crossover that I've been waiting for us so truly

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Speaker 1: truly well. Well, Tashia, the last time we had you on,

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Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't like a takeover, but we had

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Speaker 1: you after your engagement with Zach. Yeah. So how have

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Speaker 1: things been since we last spoke? So good. I'm obsessed

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Speaker 1: with New York. I was still in LA at the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in New York. I'm obsessed with it. Him

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Speaker 1: and I are still doing very very well, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Life's good young and in love. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love it. You're holding down La Becca. How's la? La

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Speaker 1: is great? No complaints. I just feel so lucky to

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Speaker 1: like I don't need my Google Maps anymore. It's feeling.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good feeling, you guys. Before we get started,

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Speaker 1: I just had this thought, we all, professor, the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: world is so crazy, Like it's just this weird. I've

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Speaker 1: with him. So how are you working with Joe? How

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Speaker 1: you do? How you do our bro like that? How

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Speaker 1: you do? I hope I do love Joe. He's incredible.

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Speaker 1: He Yeah, first time though, iway was crazy, but like

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Speaker 1: We're both like we love Joe. I mean, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: I think that the pressure of the first night is

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Speaker 1: he's so fun to kind of go at like Tasia

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Speaker 1: But that's a good Like, That's why Joe's so great,

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Speaker 1: totally different opinion, and it's sometimes it's really nice to

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Speaker 1: get the guys like opinions and perspective on things. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because he can. We have our girlfriends, we could always

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Speaker 1: what we've been through. Um, it's just been really, really

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Speaker 1: Now that you know Joe outside of Night one, thinking back,

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Speaker 1: But then that night he ended up coming out and

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen? And funny enough, the three of

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Speaker 1: till All before. And I'm not gonna lie. I'm I

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Speaker 1: don't miss it at all. I don't I don't have

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Speaker 1: any fomo I don't have any you know, remorse for

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Speaker 1: next big bit of women tall all, which is the

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Speaker 1: new arrivals, the five women that came in U and

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Speaker 1: all of the drama surrounding that. I'm really glad that

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Speaker 1: they highlighted Ryan because I feel like we did not

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Speaker 1: see nearly enough of her in the couple episodes that

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Speaker 1: she was on. But I'm so that she was finally

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Speaker 1: able to vocalize on this platform of how uncomfortable it

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Speaker 1: was with the bullying with the like, like I understand

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00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: the girls in the house that were already there and

436
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: not fully wanting to like welcome and embrace this new

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Speaker 1: group of women. But I'm glad that she finally spoke

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Speaker 1: out because being if I was Ryan, if I was

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Speaker 1: one of those new girls, I would have, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I would have shown up straight out

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Speaker 1: that I would have, I probably would have been deflated

442
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: like them. It was very Yeah, and that's why it's

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Speaker 1: like it was a hard situation to be put in.

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Speaker 1: And I listened to a happy Hour when you guys

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Speaker 1: had kit on and she said, like she was sorry

446
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: for her friend that left and he picked these other

447
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Speaker 1: people over them, And being in that environment, you know,

448
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: for our listeners, it's a very selfish place to be in.

449
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: You are thinking about yourself, you're thinking about your relationship,

450
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: you are you know, you're thinking about your friends. You're

451
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: not thinking about when these new things arise, You're not

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Speaker 1: necessarily thinking about that. So it's a hard position to

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Speaker 1: be put in, and it's hard to be then, but

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Speaker 1: it's also hard to be the girls who you've been

455
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Speaker 1: putting in the time. It's it's it's drama, honey, it is.

456
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: It is, especially as late as it was this season.

457
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Speaker 1: I think my season was a little bit different. I

458
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: think there was so much changing, Like even with like

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Speaker 1: Clear leaving and then it was just it was me,

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Speaker 1: Like I think if it was me and then three

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Speaker 1: weeks later there was another group of guys, like that

462
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: would have been like next level. Yeah, but it was

463
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Speaker 1: just like a lot of change in one night, in

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Speaker 1: the couple days, you know. And I understand the whole

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Speaker 1: not welcome committee for these new girls. I get that,

466
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: but like it got toxic and it got bad, which

467
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Speaker 1: was obviously saw with Victoria and again back to Ryan,

468
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that she spoke out about it because like

469
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Speaker 1: she's a dancer and being called a hoe on national television,

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Speaker 1: and when Victoria kept saying calling these women sluts and

471
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Speaker 1: whores and flores and whatever words she was making up,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that this was addressed because this is

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Speaker 1: something that Rachel and I had spoke on our podcast about.

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Speaker 1: Like it got to the point where I'm like, why

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Speaker 1: is this even being aired? Like why is this like

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Speaker 1: this type of language, especially women against women like to

477
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Speaker 1: me doesn't say, well, it feels so just gross, Like

478
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Speaker 1: I just want I remember watching it being like this

479
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: is disgusting. And and so when Victoria addressed it on

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Speaker 1: national television on women to all I should say, I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, come on, girlfriend, like did you not watch

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Speaker 1: any of this back and feel even more remorse Like yes,

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Speaker 1: she apologized a little bit, but then when she got

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Speaker 1: into asking Ryan if she's just a sensitive person, I'm

485
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Speaker 1: like I lost it. I was not okay with that.

486
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Speaker 1: Are you just sensitive? Like what nost like the words

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Speaker 1: of that James, And what world is it okay to

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Speaker 1: call somebody ah, like you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: it's it's no. My issue with Victoria is a like

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Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to understand how words impact people. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like and like, of course somebody's going to be

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Speaker 1: sensitive if you're called a horror multiple times on television, Like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, of course. And just because Victoria has been

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Speaker 1: getting hate in her DMS that she talked about, it's

495
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: like that's right. Either, no one's condoning that behavior. But OK,

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Speaker 1: just because you can like stomach it and some other

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Speaker 1: women can't doesn't make them overly sensitive. I just like

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Speaker 1: Victoria had the chance to step up and speak out

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Speaker 1: and really give an apology, like she's had time to

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Speaker 1: think about this, and I feel like she felt so

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Speaker 1: short of that, like like like watching it back, she

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Speaker 1: didn't feel bad at all or feel like, well, I

503
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Speaker 1: could have done things a little differently. It was it

504
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Speaker 1: was the defense. It was the defense from a honey

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Speaker 1: well I think too with Ryan saying that wasn't national television,

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Speaker 1: Like you can literally delete your Instagram right like you can,

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Speaker 1: like like Victoria did for or short amount of time

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Speaker 1: she deleted it or wasn't on it for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But what is said is said on national TV to

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Speaker 1: so many people. You don't have to display what someone

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Speaker 1: sends you directly to on your Instagram, right, And I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that it's right, of course, but it's just

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Speaker 1: different levels. You called someone this thing on National TV.

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Speaker 1: Of a lot of these trolls on the Graham, they

515
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say it to my face. Not they wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, never right, They would never look

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Speaker 1: up to you and say what they say exactly. So

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Speaker 1: it's even worse that she did say it. And then

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Speaker 1: she you know, I know you guys, have you read

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Speaker 1: the Room? That's it Victoria? For me? You didn't read

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Speaker 1: the Room, honey, No apologized period. She didn't read the Resort,

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Speaker 1: she didn't read all of Nemicole, and she didn't read Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: She's not reading the country like she's just yeah, not reading.

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Speaker 1: We have to have a little little educational lesson for

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Speaker 1: miss Victoria. What were your thoughts on? Okay? And maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm biased because we've had kid on our podcast and

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00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I just love Katie. I love like how she owns

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Speaker 1: who she is, she's sex positive. I was kind of

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Speaker 1: taken aback during this woman to all all that it

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Speaker 1: seemed like a lot of the women were kind of

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Speaker 1: coming for Katie. I was really surprised, actually, like every

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people had a lot

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Speaker 1: to say to her. And it's like I thought Victoria

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Speaker 1: was going to get that energy, but Katie got that

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Speaker 1: energy Victoria like Colley, like maybe two or three girls

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Speaker 1: called out Victoria, to be honest, it wasn't like all

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Speaker 1: of them. And yeah, it's like and you know, again,

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Speaker 1: I'm going off of the two hours that I see

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Speaker 1: every Monday, but it seemed like from the side that

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00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: I was watching the angle, that I saw everything happen.

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Speaker 1: It seems like Katie. Of course, Katie was not afraid

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Speaker 1: to go to Matt and tell him when things were

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00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: going wrong or when there was toxic behavior in the house,

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00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: but she always loved it in his court, like, hey,

545
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Speaker 1: this is what's happening, and I'm not going to name names,

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00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: but confront it. And so I was taken aback that

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Speaker 1: so many women came for her specifically, when it's like,

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00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: you know, she was she was not a catalyst, but

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00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: she brought like some issues to light, but she never

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Speaker 1: named anyone. She never degraded anyone. She'd never like drug anyone,

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Speaker 1: and so That's where I was sitting there watching this,

552
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: like I love Katie, like from what I've seen, But

553
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: what am I missing here? What are we not seeing?

554
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Because they all felt very strongly too, like it was

555
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: like they were upset. It wasn't just like like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you did mention this one thing, like, no,

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00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: they were coming for her. We said, Chelsea confront her.

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00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: We saw Mari confront her. We saw um uh suring

559
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: the Sea confront her obviously too. Oh yeah, Victoria everywhere Victoria.

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00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Victoria did apologize to her, and Katie accepted that, and

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Speaker 1: we're happy about that. I am. She actually gave her

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Speaker 1: a real apology. I don't she didn't really give that

563
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: to um, to to Ryan. I felt it didn't. It

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Speaker 1: didn't feel as genuine. Yeah right, Uh, she did do that,

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00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: But when it came to Chelsea, their whole exchange, I

566
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: made some notes about him. I don't know if you

567
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: guys want to go, but yeah, because she she basically said, uh,

568
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: Katie said to Victoria after Victoria said, well I was

569
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Speaker 1: called a bully and you know these things came for me,

570
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: and she was like, well you probably were, That's what

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Speaker 1: Ryan said to her. And then Katie basically said any

572
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: hate that people are getting on the internet, they deserved it,

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00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: and Chelsea was saying, excuse me, what? No, And I

574
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: don't know if it really came through on the show,

575
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: but I got what Chelsea was trying to say, which

576
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: are what she was trying to say is if someone's

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Speaker 1: calling someone's I know, I know that. Um. There were

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Speaker 1: people who were talking a lot of shit to Serena,

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00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: Serena c about being Asian, right, like, that's not okay. No,

580
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: no matter what she did or what she said, that's

581
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: not okay. Um. And I think what Chelsea was trying

582
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: to say is when people come and get hate because

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Speaker 1: of the way that they look or the way that

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Speaker 1: they speak, or someone you know, like Victoria had her

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Speaker 1: eye saying, or you know, body shaming and Katie said

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Speaker 1: that that's not okay. But there are people who are

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Speaker 1: getting a lot of hate for all of these physical things.

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00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: And I think what Chelsea was trying to say is

589
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: is regardless if you were in the drama or not, like,

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00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: that's not cool, okay, yeah, yeah, the karma karma, yes exactly,

591
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: and it's like that's not karma. I can't change my

592
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Speaker 1: skin color change that I'm Asian or black or you know,

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Speaker 1: for any of the girls who are getting that type

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Speaker 1: of hate. So I think that was the real point

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00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: that Chelsea was trying to make there. Katie made sure

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Speaker 1: that she said, I don't think that body shaming or

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Speaker 1: this or that is appropriate. And so again, the whole

598
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: point of the women till all is to have these conversations.

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Speaker 1: And in the sense that the way that Chelsea took

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00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: what she was saying, she was saying, but wait a minute,

601
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: what about this unrepresented side, And Katie was saying, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: If you were a person who was basically calling people

603
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: hose and now you're getting hate for that particular thing,

604
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: then that is your karma for that specific thing, you know, right.

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00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you guys think. I think

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00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: Katie was speaking more to like I think when she

607
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: said karma, she maybe mentioned more of like the situational karma,

608
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: like you said this you were bullying you, you know,

609
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: call these women horse and hose and JV squad and

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00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: all the things that I think is what she was

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00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: referring to, right, But yeah, I don't think Katie would

612
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: ever done body shaming, right, hating somebody for the way

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00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: that they speak, the way that they look like so

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: right way right she sicks positive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So

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00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was good because it's like

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00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: there was a lot of and I think watching it

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00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: back to there's a lot of misunderstanding. But the same

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00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: thing that happened with Katie too was I think one

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00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: thing that I mean, we have to bring this up.

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00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: We haven't brought it up yet. Sarah was a big

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Speaker 1: part of the season. She wasn't there. You know, I

622
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: completely forgot about Sarah. I didn't even think about now

623
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: in the back after everything, I thought she's gonna come

624
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: in hand to hand with Matt and be like, Noah,

625
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: this is messed up. She forgot about her too, to

626
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: be honest with you, but I do. But I do

627
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: think that it's great that, you know, people brought up

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00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: Sarah and Katie and Sarah had a full It was

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Speaker 1: it went full circle. It was like she interrupted me,

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00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: I confronted her, then I you know, I said some

631
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: things about her. Then I realized what her situation was,

632
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: and then I apologize And that was a full circle thing.

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00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: And I think we kind of got that in the

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Speaker 1: Women Tell all as well. You know, is it being

635
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: cordial as we said? It was, you know, super chill.

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00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: It was like people came full sir goal with confronting.

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00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: I think Victoria and Ryan they said what they said,

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00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: regardless that they're ever friends again, they said what they

639
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: had to say, and it's like boom. You know the

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00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: same thing with Katie. People said what they had to

641
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: say and you know, and it seems like it's it's

642
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: it's done. It's quashed. At least with Katie, one thing

643
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: that looks like it became full circle. But I can

644
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: only imagine, like I don't know if it's ever going

645
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: to be. This healing process was for Brittany who had

646
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: the first She had the first hot seat in regards

647
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: to the entire situation of her being called an escort.

648
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: And I truly don't want to get into it. Of

649
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: like that whole conversation, and I think Britney said it

650
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: best of like whatever your profession is, like own it

651
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: and allow people to accept you and give you grace

652
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: for what you do. I just I felt for Brittany

653
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: because when she sat there and she's like, my life

654
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: is ruined. When you google me. Now, the first twenty

655
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: things that pop off are are these heads of me

656
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: being an escort when it's not even true. I know,

657
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: like how the show can change public perception of people

658
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: so quickly, and like the position that Britney was put in,

659
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't even think it should have been shown or aired.

660
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad that her and Anna were able to talk

661
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: it through and Anna genuinely seemed like it had gutted

662
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: her and that she apologized. But I just I feel

663
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: so much for Britnie in this situation, Like I don't

664
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: know if it's ever truly going to go back to

665
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: normal for her, Like pre these these stupid rumors that

666
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: aren't even true, what are you guys think said? Even

667
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: if they were true, still don't like that's not for

668
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: you to to to put like put shame on that profession,

669
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: but also put it towards someone and it's not even true.

670
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: I feel for her. I felt very bad because even

671
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: in a clip that they showed of Brittany, it was

672
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: like she came through, She kissed Matt, she had a company,

673
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: she said they say the best for last. I mean,

674
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: she was just coming with it and I was like, yes,

675
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: I love this energy, and then it was like it

676
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: was like yeah, wounded just completely like her self esteem.

677
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: It was so hard to see that that go go

678
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: down so bad. Um and if anyone was trying to

679
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: call her sensitive or whatever, no, like that's not the case.

680
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: It's like it's hurtful. It was, it was. It was hurtful.

681
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: It was very very I felt for her so hard,

682
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: so bad for her. I did too. And to be

683
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: honest with you, I hope that people can see that

684
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: and like can take that with I don't know, just

685
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: think next time we say things about people and like

686
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, start a false rumor, you know

687
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because it really can hurt somebody and

688
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: affect them, affect their family, affect their image. It's just

689
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: not worth it. And if you feel that strong, go

690
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: to the source. People go if her And if they

691
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: just had a conversation and she didn't tell Victoria's you know,

692
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: Anna didn't go off and say all these other things

693
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: to everybody else, Guess what she would have had a conversation,

694
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: and that would have been so much more powerful going

695
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: to the source about it and ending it and debting

696
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: it right then, right there, doesn't have to go any further.

697
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't even want to really get into all the

698
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: hot seats because I feel like a there was so

699
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: many and like they're not, as you know, juicy to

700
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: talk about. But one that I do want to touch

701
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: on is going down to Abigail's hot seat because she

702
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: had the conversation with Chris there, like when he read

703
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: the tweets, I think was so meaningful. But it was like,

704
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: I love how Abigail talked about like this gray space

705
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: where you know, she was born deaf. She has these

706
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: implants so now she can hear, but she doesn't know

707
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: sign language. I think this was such a beautiful, unique conversation.

708
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was beautiful that she had that conversation

709
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: to like help all of us educate all of us

710
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: on what it's like to be deaf and to be

711
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: able to have implants but not you know, be able

712
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: to readlipse but not the sign language. I'm glad that

713
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: they highlighted that conversation as opposed to just only her

714
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: relationship with Matt. Yes, yes, one hundred percent agree. And

715
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean I also do not know

716
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: everything there is to know about the deaf community, and

717
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: there are people who don't know that, and just like

718
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: it's okay to have that conversation like in voice that Becca,

719
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: you don't know everything about it, Natasha, I don't know

720
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: everything about Tasha. You don't know everything about it. That

721
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: is the whole point. And you know, for any unrepresented,

722
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: underrepresented people, So having more people with disabilities, having more

723
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: people that are just whatever the societal norm is that

724
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: we say that is okay on television to teach us

725
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: about their journey. I'm here for it. Let's be here

726
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: for it. People, open your eyes, open your minds. Who

727
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: doesn't love to learn? That's betting boo boo. It's a

728
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: lot of it, will say, but it should we really

729
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: talk about that? Oh god, it just bounces me because

730
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: I feel like it and a lot of people that

731
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I surround myself with like their spunge, just like they

732
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: love to learn, They love to be taught something or

733
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: to have their mindset shift a little bit. I think

734
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful thing and that's how we truly

735
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: grow and change and adapt in this world. And so yeah, um,

736
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean like that's the kind of conversation that I

737
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, this is my love Women to all

738
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: or the show. Like when you have conversations like that

739
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: that are meaningful and impactful. Yes, and and that community

740
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure was very happy to probably see someone that

741
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: is a part of their community on a show like

742
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: this and have a real chance. And she got a

743
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: first impression Rose, and she's and she's just a light.

744
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: She was just really a beautiful light on the show.

745
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: And that's like the best part about this show is

746
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: like you get to see like the impact you have,

747
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: and I think that it's great. It's a lot bigger

748
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: than people think, especially like when you do carry yourself

749
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: like Abigail, did you know what I mean, but also

750
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: not feel defeated by any type of I don't know,

751
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: what do you? What do you? Would you call it

752
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: characteristics that you might see as like an imperfection, you

753
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's not, it's not. We're all

754
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: beautiful and unique in our own ways. We all have

755
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: things that we all feel to care about. But like

756
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: when you see somebody that has the same security insecurity

757
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: as you and they're like talking about it with confidence,

758
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: it really does help people out there. So and I

759
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: want to go Abigail, I love her. Yeah, And I

760
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to Abigail because I'm

761
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: sure that I can only hope that her inboxes flooded

762
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: with people in the deaf community or who have a

763
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: similar disability or impairment, and who feel like now they

764
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: can own it and make it a beautiful thing as

765
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: opposed to like a flaw. And so I think Abigail

766
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: is that light. I can only imagine how she's shaping,

767
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: shaping people's lives and feeling like they have somebody to

768
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: go to. And so, Abigail, thank you for opening up.

769
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm such an Abigail fan. Had a person's the beginning. Um,

770
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: so it's Tatia. I have to tell the Happy Hour

771
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: listeners that Tatia on click Bait was a she was

772
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: she was Abigail fan from the beginnings day one. Hopefully

773
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: that just opens the door for more girls like her

774
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: to come onto the show. Yeause there's room for YouTube baby. Okay,

775
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: So let's just get into we gotta get into the

776
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: man of the season, because I feel like we haven't

777
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: even like really talked about Matt that much. You guys,

778
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 1: what did you think of the beard? Oh my god,

779
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I feel like this is such a conversation. I think, Matt,

780
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: what are you doing? It's also send him. It's like

781
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: I like it, but like also like, m I don't know,

782
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: so here's my I like it. I don't why did

783
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: the hair from the top get so low? I guess,

784
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: like why couldn't just stay the same at the top

785
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: and then we just got the beard as the adjust

786
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, like that that the contrast is what's like, wait, yeah,

787
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: I love a beard, I really do love a beard,

788
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: but the low and then the na that is the

789
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: same thing. I thought. I was like, there's really a

790
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: difference here in the burliness going on on the upper

791
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, chest up, but it looks very oiled and

792
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: very well manicured. I did notice that. As soon as

793
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: he like sat down, I was like, oh, that looks

794
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: like it would be very soft. However, I think it

795
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: threw me for a little because I haven't seen one

796
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: picture of him with a beard like look he had

797
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: his Instagram like from the past, did you Yeah, so

798
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: it just came out of nowhere, you know what it means,

799
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: like if it's like a previous hairstyleth then I was like, okay,

800
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: like that's just like his thing, but this like actually

801
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. How do you guys feel about

802
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: kissing men with that much facial hair. I'm here for it.

803
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: I've done it. I don't mean I don't think with

804
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: a beard like that you haven't Sometimes of the beer

805
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: tats the skin, like if you have a strong makeup,

806
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: specially with somebody and then you're like, my, I can

807
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: need to moisturize extra on my face. What are you

808
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: doing to these men? Becca? Maybe when there's like some

809
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: stubble that's like really like sprashy. Oh my god, I've

810
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: had a dry hatch right here before stubble I get

811
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: because it's like sharp, but like this this hair like

812
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: what like Becca, Like it's like like like what. I

813
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: don't even know why I said that, because I probably

814
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: I don't even think I'm made out with anyone like

815
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: with that much facial hair that I could recall, I

816
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: mean maybe back in the day in my youth. But yeah, yeah,

817
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: like I'm really here for your beard. But also at

818
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: the same time, like we could maybe like it's got

819
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: a little bit shorter. Yeah, I will. I will say, Um,

820
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to go back here for two seconds. As

821
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: far as the pot seats, I just want to say

822
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: this about Piper's hot seat, because I know you guys

823
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: had her on Happy hour right, and we are having

824
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: her on Clickbait this week as well, and I'll get

825
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: into this with her on Clickbait, But basically, her journey

826
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: is the journey that I think so many women have

827
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: that are afraid to open up, and then they get

828
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: to a point where they open up and then maybe

829
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, but it just bursts open this

830
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: new It seems like of all the women, Piper learned

831
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: so much about herself in this journey than like anyone.

832
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure everybody got things about them stuff,

833
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: but she just the just the her being closed and

834
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: then busting open and like feeling all the fields and

835
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: then of course getting shut down, which is always not fun.

836
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: But it's like I'm shut down and I'm okay, and

837
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: now I can go out there in the world and

838
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: do it again and one day it's gonna work. Yeah.

839
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: Were talking about it all of the biggest kind of transformations. Yeah, yeah,

840
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: and she's had to bring it. She's one that we

841
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: had on the podcast couple of weeks ago where she

842
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: really like, it's one thing when you're in this season

843
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: and kind of have to, you know, put that guard

844
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: down and open up and like let the flood rush out,

845
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: if you will, of the feeling and the emotion. But

846
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: she's also one that really went home, I think and

847
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: internalized a lot of why did I feel this way

848
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: in this regard? What made me think this way? Who?

849
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: She really watched it back and took so much more

850
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: and learned so much more from that moment that talking

851
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: to her, I was like, you, like, you are transformative,

852
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: Like you've had this growth and she can speak on it.

853
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's a beautiful thing. And I truly hope,

854
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: like most people that come from the show have that,

855
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: Like I think everyone like there's no way you can

856
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: do the show and not learn more about yourself and

857
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: in relation, you know, like past traumas, or like why

858
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: you are the way you are, or like how you

859
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: can be better in the future for yourself or a partner.

860
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: But she has really done it in an incredible way.

861
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna love having her. I can't wait

862
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: to listen. Way, I can't wait. We got we gonna

863
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: have Piper, wrong, girl, we don't my sister. I'm excited

864
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: to talk to her. Yeah, she's you know. I had

865
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: to bring her up, had to bring that up, that

866
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: transformation and a journey. Um, okay, yeah, so Matt, So,

867
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: did you guys have any standout moments when he was

868
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: confronting any of the women, like anything that really like

869
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: we need to talk about right now because I know

870
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: we have more fun stuff to come and nothing pressing

871
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: at him and Serena, I'm stealing, you think. Okay, that's true.

872
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: You think him and Serena, I just I don't know

873
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: how to feel. I don't know, I feel like they

874
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: would be together. You feel I don't know how to feel.

875
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: I look at her and I'm like, you don't like him?

876
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: But then she was crying when she was talking to

877
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: Chris about time, and then I'm like what And then

878
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: Matt comes out and he was like looking at her

879
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: but then not looking at her, but then looking at

880
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: her but then turn her like I was saying, oh, well,

881
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: think about it. She's like the only girl that really

882
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: turned him down. I was like, you know, I know,

883
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel. I tell us something. Okay,

884
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: Well okay, I because Natasha, you say, like, I feel

885
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: like he was so into her eye. Think like the

886
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: situation very much so reminds me of like a Colton

887
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: and a Cassie a little bit where but but now

888
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: that he like pressed her, like I think she wasn't

889
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: as into him, but couldn't totally vocalize it. I think

890
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: she here's the thing. I think she And this is

891
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: just to me in my head thinking this, so I'm

892
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: trying to interesting, right, But it's like I think she

893
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: appreciates who he is as a human, just the fact

894
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: that he was so patient, so kind, so cary, and

895
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: so fun, Like he's this incredible human that she would

896
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: want in a partner. It's like all of the checklists

897
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: are there, but you have to be with somebody, like

898
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: you have to see how they interact on they like

899
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: make you feel like is there that passion? Is there

900
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: that drive? Like if Rachel's on here, she would say,

901
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: does he make your vagina dance? Like things are so

902
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: much so I think it's like she has this internal

903
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: battle of like he's everything I could want in a

904
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: partner and on paper, but there's just that one like

905
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: the click of like it's not there. And that's where

906
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: I think she was struggling. But she couldn't a thousand

907
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: percent articulate that to him or like you know it

908
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: just but the crying, the crying, really did something to me,

909
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 1: and I feel that, and I felt that, and that's

910
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: how I felt when she went home, and that's how

911
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: I felt, and I feel like, but after seeing her

912
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: mom and her having that breakdown when her mom said,

913
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: you you know, um you you had such a bad

914
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: time in that last relationship. Is it a self sabotage

915
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: that's happening here where she's just like, I was hurt

916
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: so bad. I'm still not healed. My wounds are still

917
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: broken open. If I go through this full process and

918
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't pick me, I will get just as broken

919
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: as I was before. So I'm just gonna self sabotage

920
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: and take myself out. Because the tears were real, Yeah,

921
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: they were so Yeah though if she wasn't really into him,

922
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: would it be like would she be crying like that?

923
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, okay, or if her family would have

924
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: been like you really love it, like, do you think

925
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: they would be together? Like do you think she would

926
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: have let herself continue on or do you think she

927
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: would have still like stopped it. I think she still

928
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: would have stopped it, honestly, Like if she's really basically

929
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: it off of like the past relationship and the hurt

930
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: there it's like she made like I can assume, like

931
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: you still need time and she's young, Like she's still

932
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: really young, like she still needs to learn and grow

933
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: and like spread her wings and fine have fun and yeah, yeah,

934
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: I think even if the family was like, oh he's great,

935
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: go for it. Yeah, and the steaks are so high too,

936
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: it's not like this is just a relationship where you

937
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: can date around and see where it goes. But um, yeah,

938
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: she needs to get on Paradise, have some fun, you know,

939
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: with on the beaches you go Paradise. I don't know.

940
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I always like I always get

941
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: so excited to see like the cast and whatnot. It'll

942
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: be like some people blow you out the water, like

943
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: they surprise you. It's gonna be I mean, we have

944
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: so we have so many seasons now of new people,

945
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: like we've like because when did we haven't had a Paradise.

946
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: And if Peter's season we have mine and Claire's we

947
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: have mats. There's gonna be all on. We'll have whoever

948
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: the Bachelorettes people is. It's gonna be yeah, new fresh

949
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: meat on the on the Mexico beaches, on top of

950
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: like the already like you know, people from a bachelor

951
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: nation that need to go find people as well, like

952
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: my friends Natasha, Natasha, are you can to be leaving me?

953
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: I know, Becka, are you going to be joining me? Money?

954
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: I've talked about this. Really we can take team the

955
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: bar like, well, you're great, but we need to let

956
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: the obviously we have to do or read the room

957
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: for this week, and so I know we kind of

958
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: touched on it, but give me your read the rooms.

959
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: I told you, Victoria. Yeah, I'm just gonna say Victoria

960
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: one percent. Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna go off off script

961
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: a little bit and say I'm going to give it

962
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: to I'm going to give it to all of the

963
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: haters who have slid into people's dms with cruelty and ignorant, nasty,

964
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: hateful messages. That's who I'm given to read the room

965
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: to this day, this day, probably forever, but today for sure.

966
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: You guys, take a step back, don't get your little

967
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: tap hype type happy fingers, and be better and be

968
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: kinder and realize that it's a human on the other

969
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: end reading what you have to say. Um, so you

970
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: can go shave your back so bye. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

971
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: that is a great Read the Room, honey. And I

972
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: also want to say, and I said to on my

973
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: Instagram outside of the Bachelor world, we all are real people,

974
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: we have real lives. Unfortunately, this week I had to

975
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: deal with some real stuff that happened in my life

976
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: with people passing away. Nobody cares about that. These trolls

977
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: don't care about that. They like, what do you think

978
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: about this? What do you think about that? Say about this? Hey,

979
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: stop stop it just guys stop read the room. Yeah

980
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: there you go back. Yeah, exactly like life goes on.

981
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Real shit happens, like heavy stuff that not everyone, not

982
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: everyone can and needs to respond to every little thing

983
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: that happened, every scandal that happens in the Bachelor world.

984
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: I would hope that for important ones like yes, you know,

985
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: we addressed it at times, but like we're all human.

986
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: We are everyone on the show, whether people like to

987
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: think it or not, or like think that we're just characters,

988
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: like we are people. We have parts and brains and souls. Yeah,

989
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: we're not just robots, Like wouldn't that be nice stuff

990
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: we were interested in didn't give a set an automated message,

991
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: if you know, we got a lot of things to do.

992
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: We're working girls. You sing your hate to me, but

993
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm reading record your voice first, I was like, who

994
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: the heck you guys? That was so incredibly fun. I mean,

995
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: we really, we really do have to do this more often.

996
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just glad that you girls were able to

997
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: step in be here with me, to still be able

998
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: to support Rachel throughout all of this, this craziness that's

999
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: happening in the world of Batcher Nation. So thank you

1000
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: both for being here. Of course just across the ponds,

1001
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: always calling us if you need us, but also you

1002
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: have to come by sometime soon. You have to come

1003
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: to click Baits. We can make Joe very very god

1004
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: let's just have you just surprise him. I would love

1005
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: to see him squirm a little bit. Oh yeah, let's

1006
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: put it on the spot. I'll just put exactly. Thank

1007
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: you so much for having us, Becca, You're the best,

1008
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: the best too. I love you girls, um And for

1009
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: all of our listeners out there, thank you guys for

1010
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: hanging out. We of course have a lot coming up

1011
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks and we cannot wait

1012
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: to see what happens. Make sure you tune in next week. Too,

1013
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: because we have Serena pon we have obviously not have

1014
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: had a chance to sit with her. We saw her

1015
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: a little bit on women till all, but we really

1016
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: just want to sit down and pick her brain, get

1017
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: to know her for who she is a little bit more,

1018
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: and maybe you know how she was feeling in those

1019
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: last days with Matt and why she really did send

1020
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: herself home. So if you have any questions in the meantime,

1021
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: any comments, concerns, guest ideas, you know where to find us.

1022
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: It's at Batch or Happy Hour on Instagram and at

1023
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: Batch Happy Hour on both Facebook and Twitter. And this

1024
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: always you guys. If you never want to miss an episode,

1025
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: please subscribe to our podcast. You can do that on

1026
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondering App or wherever you are

1027
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: listening to this right now. And please go show our

1028
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: girl Rachel some love because she needs it. So thank

1029
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: you guys for tuning in, and we'll see you next week.

1030
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: By guys,