1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. American needs its freedom 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: time to reopen. Plus YouTube is censoring those doctors from 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: California who broke with the consensus over the lockdown. From 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: a right to be believed to a right to be heard, 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Democrats changing the rules over the allegations against Joe Biden. 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: Plus should businesses be liable for COVID risks to employees? 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Are we heading for a meat shortage? And Pence mask gates? 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: That are more coming up. This is the bus Sexon Show, 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: where the mission or mission is to decode what really 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake your great American 11 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Again the Buck Sex and Show begins. Analysts remember the animal, 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. As our nation battles against this 13 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: terrible scorch, we continue to pray for the victims as 14 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 1: well as for those Americans who are grieving. They're lost 15 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: ones and they loved ones. There's never been anything like this. 16 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: We suffer with one heart, but we will prevail. We're 17 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: coming back, and we're coming back strong. We built the 18 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: greatest economy anywhere in the world two months ago, and 19 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna build it again. We're going to build it fast. 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: It's going to go very quickly. And Larry, thank you 21 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: for being here very much. It's you see what's going 22 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: to happen. I think you have the same fielding as 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: I do. It's going to come back very fast. I 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: certainly hope the President's right. Welcome to the buck Sexton Show, everybody, 25 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. Oh man, it is time. 26 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: It is time for us to finally say it. We 27 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: need to reopen this country and this needs to be 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: happening faster than it currently is. I know that there's 29 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: all this guidance. I know that there is a desire 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: to make this go slowly and safely, and the time 31 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: is now different paces for different places. New York should 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: be a little bit slower, should be quite a bit 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: slower than some states, and somewhat slower than others. But 34 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: we can't continue doing this. This has been a bit 35 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: absurd now for a while. In my opinion, there are 36 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: states where you have like Texas has thirty million people, 37 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: about twenty nine million people and six hundred deaths. The 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: state's been shut down for going on two months. Now, 39 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: what are we doing? What the heck is this? Now? 40 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: I know Texas is starting to open up in other 41 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: states are beginning this process. You have a partial reopening 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: already in Montana, Minnesota, Colorado, Oklahoma, Colorado ninety three seven 43 00:02:53,040 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: FM Denver, what's up? But Colorado opening up partially, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Georgia, 44 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: which got a lot of attention from the media trying 45 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: to scared Georgia's governor Kemp away from a reopening. South Carolina, Mississippi, 46 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: They're all opening up or have already begun that process. 47 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: A lot of states, a lot of other states have 48 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: orders expiring tomorrow April thirtieth. With that, you've got Idaho, Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Alabama, Florida, 49 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: and they are in the process. Then I'm also opening. 50 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: But then you get into what are at Maine also 51 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: by the way, we'll be opening up. And then you 52 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: get into a whole bunch of other states that are 53 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: shut down or restricted with no immediate end in sight. 54 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: All of the Northeast, all the really what we consider 55 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: the East coast before you get down to South Carolina. 56 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: So from North Carolina all the way up to New Hampshire, 57 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: lockdown our entire west coast, California, Oregon, Washington, lockdown, the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri, Illinois, 58 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the Midwest, the industrial Midwest, Ohio, Michigan lockdown. How long 59 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: are they going to continue to do this? Nobody really 60 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: knows at this point, because they're also putting in place 61 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: rules and regulations that are going to make it very 62 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: difficult for them to have real progress without setbacks. And 63 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: this is what I think everyone needs to know beforehand. 64 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: This needs to be established early in this process. If 65 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: we start opening states and then go back to full 66 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: on lockdown in those states, it's going to be disastrous. 67 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: How do you prepare an economy for that? How do 68 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: you prepare people psychologically for that? No, we've done the 69 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: lockdown thing. We get it, we know the mitigation measures. 70 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: We understand that there's not a cure for this disease 71 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: and that the treatments for it are substandard. Right now, 72 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: they're not sufficient, they're not good enough. Although I did 73 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: see we'll talk about the good data to day for 74 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: rimdsevere from Gilead Gilead Pharmaceuticals. Hopefully, all we have to 75 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: do is have something that would make the mortality rate 76 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: for those who are hospitalized, which is a small percentage 77 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: of people who overall even get the disease. If we 78 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: bring that mortality rate for the hospitalized down by fifty 79 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: sixty seventy percent, then this becomes an entirely manageable health problem. 80 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Right now, it's more of a challenge and much more 81 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: of a threat because of the mortality of those who 82 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: are over seventy you go to the hospital. Imagine if 83 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: we can get to the place where you're over seventy five, 84 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: you're in the hospital of COVID, they have something that means, 85 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, you got a nine out of ten shot 86 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: of making it out of that hospital. It would be 87 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: a game changer. Right. I don't want to get our 88 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: hopes up because who knows how far away this will be. 89 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: But some good data from Gile out of Pharmaceuticals on 90 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: ramdessevere culture scene is also going to have some data 91 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: coming out soon. This is I've been hearing about this 92 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: from doctor friends in New York for a few weeks now. 93 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: There's a big study out of Montreal and they're hoping 94 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: the cultures scene will prevent a will prevent the inflammatory 95 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: response in the lungs that's what ends up killing people 96 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: ards which is part of it, or which comes during 97 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: this site, or is tied in with the sight of 98 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: ken Storm Gosh reading about all this health stuff. I 99 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, who would have thought it's It's like 100 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: we're all living in one long web MD article these days. 101 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: But we got to open the states. We have to 102 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: do this. It needs to be a mentality that we share. 103 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: The data is not supportive of the lockdowns anymore. If 104 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: you really look at it, it's not supportive of the lockdowns. 105 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: There are mitigation measures that should be kept in place, 106 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: there are certain things that we're going to have to 107 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: be doing for a while, but the overall lockdown approach 108 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: is just not what we should be doing. And that's 109 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: why I understand states are reopening and we're moving into it, 110 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: But I'm saying we need to move this faster. This 111 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: needs to go faster than it has so far. People 112 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: need to go. We keep saying, go back to work. 113 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: We need to get back to living our lives. We 114 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: need to get back to having the basic freedom in 115 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: our day to day of where we're going to go 116 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: and who we're going to see. That's a part of 117 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: life too. You know, we're all in what is effectively 118 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: this this true mass mass incarceration. You often hear liberals 119 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: talk about mass incarceration as a political issue, but we 120 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: have been in a mass incarceration. Yeah. Sure, you can 121 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: go out for essentials. But you know, if you're under 122 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: house arrest under some circumstances, I mean official criminal house arrest, 123 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: you can still go to the hospital. You still have 124 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: some you can go to doctor's appointments. There are things 125 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: they let you do. So yeah, okay, we can maybe 126 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: go out for a walk if you wear a mask. 127 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: It's gotten, it's gotten to the point where we just 128 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: have to say enough is enough, and we're there. I 129 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: think you've all been there for a while. I'm here 130 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: in New York. I've been building to this point. But 131 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: none of this like, oh, maybe this is going to 132 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: drag on for eighteen months. Maybe we're gonna have to 133 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: lock down again in a month, or we're gonna lock 134 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: down again in September. No, that's wrong. We shouldn't do that. 135 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: The data doesn't support it. It's not saving lives the 136 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: way they claimed it would when you line it up 137 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: against places that did not do lockdowns. This is looking 138 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: increasingly like an overreaction, a panic move that the administration 139 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: and states were pushed into for a combination of the 140 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: media frenzy around this issue after being completely wrong and 141 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: downplaying it when when the media's panic would have been 142 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: perhaps helpful. They were telling us it was no big deal, 143 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: that this wasn't go this wasn't gonna hit us that hard. 144 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: And then when we all realize that it was going 145 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: to actually hit this country very hard and cause a 146 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of mass death and casualties, then 147 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: the media's response was lockdown for as long as it 148 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: takes everywhere. And if you're a post that you're a 149 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: bad person, you want to sacrifice old people to die, 150 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: that's what they say. It's nonsense, it's it's just wrong. 151 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: But this is now a major, a major fight we 152 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: have on our hands because there are places that want 153 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: to do whatever they can to drag this out as 154 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: long as they can, and the politicians who are in charge. 155 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: You must remember this. Politicians will always disappoint you. They're 156 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: not as good as they pretend to be, and they're 157 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: not as good as a lot of people want to 158 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: believe they are. Government is inapt by its nature. That's 159 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: why our founders wanted a very limited and clearly delineated 160 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: series of authorities and powers for the government. That's why 161 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: the focus wasn't on how do we have super geniuses 162 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: in charge that can make all of our decisions for us? 163 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: That socialism that state is. Another focus was here are 164 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: the things you're allowed to do, and here the rights 165 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: that individuals have that the state cannot trespass upon. Oh 166 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of trespassing on those rights though, 167 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: hasn't there. There's been a lot of that going on 168 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: and not nearly enough pushback on it. Elon Musk, who, 169 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: whether you love Tesla or not, is certainly a dynamic 170 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: and brilliant fellow. He tweeted out earlier. Well, it was 171 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: I guess late last night, free America now in all caps. 172 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: I share the sentiment. It's time to free up this country. 173 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: We can figure this out as we go along. We 174 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: can take necessary steps to protect people in high risk 175 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: groups and in high risk areas without shutting down the 176 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: whole country. This was a mistake. The across the board 177 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: lockdown was the wrong decision. I understand why Trump felt 178 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: tremendous pressure. I understand why different states and governors even 179 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: felt a pressure to do this lockdown some states maybe, 180 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: and really it's just new York, New Jersey, Michigan, some states. 181 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: You could have justified this for two to four weeks, 182 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: but we've gone We've gone past it. It has reached 183 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: its expiration date, and all of this focus on oh, 184 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: we need the testing, and the testing will be in place, 185 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: and without that note, we have to start living life again. 186 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: We have to accept this. I'm going to be somebody 187 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: who's out in the red zone in New York City. 188 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: I will be I'm already going to stores and outside 189 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: interacting with people. But I'm somebody who's going to be 190 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: living in the highest risk part of the country. But 191 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm a relatively low risk by age individual, and I'm 192 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: willing to take the risk. And I know that that 193 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: means there's going to have to be some other procedures 194 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: in place for those of us who do have people 195 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: in our lives who are at higher risk. And I 196 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: understand that this might mean that some people have to 197 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: continue on a regiment of extraordinary caution for the weeks 198 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: and months ahead. But we're more likely to have an 199 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: economy that can beat the virus, who are more likely 200 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: to be able to sustain frontline medical personnel, pay them, 201 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: keep them in status at the hospital where they're actually 202 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: doing things to help people, and help people who don't 203 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: have COVID nineteen. By the way, if those of us 204 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: who are at lower risk are productive and engaged, you know, 205 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: we have to remember it, some one, What exactly are 206 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: we fighting for. I'm not fighting for the I'm not 207 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: fighting for a future of being safe at home and 208 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: having a fridge full of food and we'll talk about 209 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: the possible meat shortage later. No, we want we want 210 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the liberty to pick what our future will be, and 211 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: that means the right to make individual decisions that entail 212 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: some degree of risk. There's been a fundamental shift away 213 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: from this that's happened in our society where you have 214 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: this this panic ism or safety ism, as Heather McDonald 215 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: called it in her article this week. And we do 216 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: not live lives of safety ism. We live lives of 217 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: balanced and assessed risk of all different kinds and of 218 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: many different ways. Free American. Now Elon says, I'm with him. 219 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: It's time you're in the freedom. This is the Buck 220 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: Sex and Show podcast. Now. I can understand that there's 221 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: a tendency to think others, especially those who are in charge, 222 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: especially those who do not share a similar philosophical foundation 223 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: about government, the state, individual rights as you and I do. 224 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: You would think that they are also seeing the situation 225 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: with clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose, so that they're 226 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: seeing this in a way that all of us can 227 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: start from a premise that we hold some things in 228 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: common about what's going on and what should be done 229 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: in this country. Unfortunately, we are now in for quite 230 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: a struggle because there are number of different factors coming together. 231 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: There's a mass panic, a massister area over this where 232 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: it's very hard to penetrate this with facts and data. 233 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: There is a enormous political motive which we're not supposed 234 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: to talk about. And the political motive, of course is 235 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: to make sure that the economy, the economy can suffer 236 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: and suffer and suffer, which is going to hurt Trump's 237 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: reelection chances. We all know that. And the people that 238 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: are pushing for a more suffering economy are going to 239 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: say we were saving lives, so they get to feel 240 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: self righteous about it too. And then you have the States, 241 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: and people forgot this, but states, once they have a 242 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: taste of certain powers, the people in charge think that 243 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: they should continue to wield those powers. They do not 244 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: want to give them back. They do not say, yeah, 245 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: that was fun, but or that was necessary, but we're 246 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: going to move on to something else. And that's what 247 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: we're facing now. We're facing that recognition and realization and 248 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: also that there are private sector businesses that are willing 249 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: to go along with efforts to suppress dissent, to shut 250 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: down the discussion that all of us should be having 251 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: about what's an intelligent response given where we are right now. 252 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's the focus on what has happened, and 253 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: we do some of that here, but I'm most concerned 254 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: on how quickly can we get things back up and running. Remember, 255 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: the economic damage here is time delayed. We're not going 256 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: to really understand how many businesses are not going to reopen, 257 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: how much the debt that we're accruing is going to 258 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: drag on our economy and future growth, and also the 259 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: changes in daily life and the way that they're going 260 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: to affect even once we start to reopen, how they're 261 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: going to affect different industries and businesses they're out there, 262 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: and what that means for people. There's going to be 263 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: an enormous shift of workers, of wealth, of time, allocation 264 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: of careers and that can be a painful process. In 265 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the end, maybe you get to a better place through 266 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: that kind of economic evolution, But in the short term, 267 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: it means a lot of people without a check. It 268 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: means a lot of people who are going to be 269 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: going through a painful time. And we're just starting to 270 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: really get a sense of how broad that is and 271 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: what that's really going to look like for months, if 272 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: not perhaps a year or two ahead of us. You know, 273 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: if this were so easy, if it were possible to 274 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: just have the government right checks to keep an economy going, 275 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: why shouldn't we just give ourselves an eight week paid 276 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: vacation every year courtesy of Uncle Sam. There would be 277 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: no good reason unless there were negative consequences to that 278 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: for all of us, and we understand that there are 279 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: negative consequences, but no one has been focused on that. 280 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Now we've been told stay home, you'll get money, you'll 281 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: get paid, and we'll send you cash. Just make sure 282 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: you've got plenty of mac and cheese and soda in 283 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: the fridge and whatever else, and everything's going to be fine. 284 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: People want to go back to work. People are tired 285 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: of this, and the data does not support this. Continued 286 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: across the board shutdown. I have to keep repeating that 287 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: just because we have to get this through into people's heads. Yes, 288 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: this disease is dangerous, particularly dangerous to a certain percentage 289 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: of the population. Yes, it has been a horrible death 290 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: pull so far. We were not prepared for this, and 291 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: it's a stunning it's a stunning failure of government to 292 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: have been able to handle this better. Fine, all true, 293 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: But now now I want to see more and more 294 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: states adopting the policies of individual freedom and economic choice 295 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: that we should all have as part of our day 296 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: to day lives. I mean, New York they're talking about this. 297 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: Might you know, we got a twelve step program and 298 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: we got to have this amount of tracing for this 299 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: amount of individual They're never going to be able to 300 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: test and trace. Give me a break, They're never gonna 301 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: be able to do this. They've never been able to 302 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: do this for a disease at this scale and this 303 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: speed of spread. And we think that now we're going 304 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: to figure this out, and you're going to New York 305 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: is doing this. We're gonna pin our hopes for returning 306 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: to some degree of not just normalcy, some degree of 307 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: a life that we get up and look forward to 308 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: with things to do, with the ability to go out 309 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: there and make a difference and make choices. We're going 310 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: to pin that on government setting up a test and 311 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: trace program that is well beyond not just their capabilities now, 312 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: but no one really thinks they're gonna be able to 313 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: do this, think of the resources involved and for what 314 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: So that we have a better idea of where there 315 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: are infections in the country than we would based on 316 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: people who currently know that they're infected based on the symptoms, 317 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: and then go and get a test. We're going to 318 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: try to track all asymptomatic carriers. I keep hearing that 319 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: that's the plan, and then I look around and I say, 320 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: that can really be the plan? Is it? But no, 321 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: it is for them, it is. And it's very political too, 322 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: because if you go against test and trace, if you 323 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: go too fast, guess what, it's all Trump's fault. That's 324 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: what they're going to say, because the federal government should 325 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: be doing it. Thanks for listening to The Bust. Remember 326 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or 327 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. This is a time when 328 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: it's particularly important that we have open and free dialogue, debate, 329 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: discussion about what's happening in the country, because it affects 330 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: all of us. Nobody is immune from this, no one 331 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: is unaffected by It is something that we are all 332 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: very much dragged into in the middle of and has 333 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: a really negative impact on us. The shutdown across the nation, 334 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: the shutdown of our states, of our businesses, of the economy. 335 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: This has affected everyone that I know. This has affected 336 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: me and my business too. This is not a good time, 337 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: a fun time to be in particular media that doesn't have, 338 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, a legacy corporate entity that owns it, right, 339 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know where I'm not doing a radio 340 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: show for a company that is, you know, owned by 341 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: Disney or you know, it's it's not one of these 342 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: massive conglomerates along the lines of what you have at 343 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: the cable at some of the big cable news network. 344 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: So everyone's affected by this. I mean everyone is being 345 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: just because of ad revenue, the lack of demand and everything. 346 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: And that's just on the economic side, on the psychological side, 347 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: on the health side. And I might have a chance 348 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: to talk to you about what we're seeing early stage 349 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: of this, what we're seeing based on the data in Oregon, 350 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 1: mortality data in Oregon, and what that is telling us. 351 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: It's not what you would think right now based on 352 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: a lot of the narrative around COVID nineteen, but we 353 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: should be hearing from experts. And one thing that has 354 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: been consistent is that we were told for weeks, do 355 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: your part to help the frontline medical workers. Stay home, 356 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: shut up, wear a mask. We don't want to hear it. 357 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: Do your part. That's what that was really the message. 358 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean maybe they were a little more gentle with 359 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: it than that, but that's more or less what it 360 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: boiled down to. If you want to help us, if 361 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: you want to help the medical workers, you absolutely have 362 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: to not be out and trying to be living other 363 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: parts of your life. You have to stay home. Okay, Well, 364 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: now we've got doctors who are coming forward to We're 365 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: saying increasingly, no, I don't want to do that. This 366 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: doctor at St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx, which has 367 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: been hit very badly. Those of you are familiar with 368 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: in New York City don't know the Bronx pretty well. 369 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: It's an area that has had a really high for hospitalizations, 370 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: a large number of hospitalizations, but also, the mortality rate 371 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: has been high and minority, the minority community in the Bronx. 372 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: The Bronx is a very large minority community in general, 373 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: they've been hit particularly badly by this, and it's just 374 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: it's been brutal, it's been terrible. A doctor who's a 375 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: frontline er doc in Barnabas hospitals like, look, here's what's 376 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: really going on. He wrote this in the New York 377 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: Post over the weekend. He says, there's there's some terrible 378 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: stuff happening here, but it is only really affecting the 379 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: population that we had thought all along was at highest risk, 380 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: and we're doing the best we can for that population. 381 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: But the disease had already spread wide before, broadly, before 382 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: we had this lockdown in place. And this doctor who 383 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: is he's dealing with COVID patients all day long, trying 384 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: to save lives, trying to protect people, and he's saying 385 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: that to most of the population, the risk is very 386 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: low and the economic and health impacts health impacts of 387 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: the lockdown are disastrous, and with each day get worse 388 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: and worse and worse. There is no antibody to a 389 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: bad economy. There is no okay We're just going to 390 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: wait this out for a bad economy, right, That's not possible. 391 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: So that's where you start to have these doctors who 392 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: are coming out, and they're very brave because they're really 393 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: speaking against a medical community consensus. Look, I'm just gonna 394 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: say it. Most doctors in certain fields are they tend 395 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: to be Democrats. Surgeons tend to lean Republican, which I 396 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: think is very interesting. There are some fields where you 397 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: have a higher percentage surgeons, heart surgeons, brain surgeons tend 398 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: to be Republican. Psychiatrists mostly Libs, huge majority of psychiaterest 399 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: or liberals. But there is a hashtag science consensus that 400 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: it's settled in. Now. When I say it's a consensus, 401 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: that's a perception, it's not a reality. Doesn't mean that 402 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: every doc agrees with this. And certainly some of the 403 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: docks that I've been talking to, probably because some of 404 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: them are social acquaintances of mine as well. But here 405 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: in New York we're dealing with COVID, they haven't agreed 406 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: with the across the board lockdown policy. I mean some 407 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: of them were, like I've said, there are like two weeks, 408 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: maybe because we could have shut down for two weeks. 409 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: It would have been okay, it would have been painful 410 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: for businesses, but that we could have bounced back from that. 411 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: That would have been very manageable. A month, six weeks, 412 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: eight weeks, ten weeks. It's not manageable. It's not something 413 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: that's worth the cost. But you have this case. So 414 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: there are doctors that are coming out and they're saying 415 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: that they're the ones that are seeing the worst of 416 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen every day. They're the ones that are seeing 417 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: the Wuhan coronavirus destroying, you know, certain communities here in 418 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: New York, not really doing very much to a lot 419 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: of states with much less population density, but destroying people 420 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: here in New York City and destroying families. And then 421 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: the loss of life is terrible, and they're saying, we 422 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: still have to go on, and we still have to 423 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: go forward with life. We can't continue to lockdown. You're 424 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: hearing doctors saying this, Now, that's a big change, that's 425 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: the big switch. And then you have this situation with 426 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: doctors from Accelerated Urgent Care out in Bakersfield, California, doctors 427 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: Dan Ericson and artin Massihi, and they just did a 428 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: sit down a conference really with twenty three ABC. So 429 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: credit to twenty three ABC for putting this together. And 430 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: the video went megaviral and the millions and millions and 431 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: millions of views, and they and he's here's why the 432 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: video went megaviral in that way because they said things 433 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: like this, cases that we already know about. So if 434 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: we look at California, these numbers are from yesterday, we 435 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: have thirty three thousand, eight hundred and sixty five COVID 436 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: cases out of a total of two hundred and eighty thousand, 437 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: nine hundred total testing. That's twelve percent of Californians we're 438 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: positive for COVID. So we don't the initial as you 439 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: guys know, the initial models were we're willfully inaccurate. They 440 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: predicted millions of cases of death, not of not of 441 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: prevalence or incidents, but death that is not materializing. WHOA 442 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: hold on a second, you're you're you're not allowed to 443 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: say that it's true. But doctor doctor whatever his name 444 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: is here for God, for a second, I think it 445 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: is doctor Ericson. Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, doctor Ericson. 446 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: Not allowed to say that, not allowed to point out 447 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: what we already know to be the case, which is 448 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: the models we're way off. Oh, but he goes further 449 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: than that. What is materializing in the state of California 450 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: is twelve percent positives. Well, if we thirty nine point 451 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: five million people, if we just take a basic calculation 452 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: and extrapolate that out, that equates to about four point 453 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: seven million cases throughout the state of California, which means 454 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: this thing is widespread. That's the good news. We've seen 455 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: one thousand, two hundred and twenty seven deaths in the 456 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: state of California with a possible incidence or prevalence of 457 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: four point seven million. That means you have a zero 458 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: point zero three chance of dying from COVID nineteen the 459 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: state of California. Zero point zero three chance of dying 460 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: from COVID in the state of California. Is that? Does 461 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: that necessitate sheltering in place? Does that necessitate shutting down 462 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: medical systems? Does that necessitate people being out of work? 463 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Does it? Does anybody want to try to answer that? 464 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Does anybody have any interest in what these doctors are saying? Well, 465 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: the answer we know is that of course millions of people, 466 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: millions of people wanted to hear what these doctors had 467 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: to say, and they're they're treating this is the data 468 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: that they have collected, and they are frontline medical docs 469 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: doing everything that they can, everything possible to save lives 470 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: and to help people. And this one doc, doctor Ericson, 471 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: is saying, look, you have a very instate of California. 472 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: You have a very very very small chance of dying 473 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: from this. This date of California is on lockdown like 474 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: it's New York. Why it shouldn't be. This doesn't make 475 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: any sense. It's not a good idea that data doesn't 476 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: support it. Now, you'd think that this would be very 477 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: important for people to be able to hear to see 478 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: for themselves. You should watch this whole video. It's about 479 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: about forty five fifty minutes long. Or it just goes 480 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: through all the data, tells you what he thinks you 481 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: should be in a position where you can make your 482 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: own terminations about what their recommendations are and what they're 483 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: thinking about all of this. But you know what happened. 484 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: It got pulled down. YouTube decided that this was a 485 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: violation of its terms of service. I think I mentioned 486 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: this in the show yesterday, and I know Tucker Carlson 487 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: talked about this a bit last night on his show. 488 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: Why would YouTube pull this down? These are two medical 489 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: doctors talking about data and talking about what they are seeing, 490 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: what they're up to, you meaning that what they're seeing 491 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: from the actual process of trying to save patients lives 492 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: and do everything they end for them, and YouTube pulls 493 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: it down. How could that be? It seems so completely bizarre. 494 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: And here's what YouTube said, quote, we quickly remove flagged 495 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: content that violate our community guidelines, including content that explicitly 496 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: disputes the fic see of local healthy authority recommended guidance 497 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: or health authority. It says healthy health authority recommended guidance 498 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: on social distancing that may lead others to act against 499 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: that guidance. So, now science, which is all about testing 500 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: and retesting hypotheses and assumptions and data, this is remembered 501 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: the global warming consensus. I mean, this is how the left, 502 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: the Libs like to think about these issues. There's a 503 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: way that you're allowed to talk about there's a way 504 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: you're allowed to think about it, and then if you 505 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: deviate from that, if you even ask questions about it, 506 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: you're a problem. Do as you're told. Peasant not allowed 507 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: to ask any questions. YouTube is going along with this? 508 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: How can anyone think that this violates community guidlance? You 509 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: don't violence community guidelines. State governors acting like petty tyrants 510 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: telling you that you have to stay inside, police using 511 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: sting operations to determine whether or not someone is offering 512 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: their services as a nail salon person to people behind 513 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: closed doors to paint their nails and whatever people do 514 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: it in Nelson. I don't even know, but that to 515 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: me is a violation. Isn't it Arresting somebody in front 516 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: of his or her children before being in a public 517 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: playground when there's basically no risk. We're starting to say this, 518 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: there's basically no risk from being in public in the 519 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: open air if you maintain even a basic normal human 520 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: distance from people you know. Usually you don't walk out, 521 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: go to the park and start nuzzling strangers. So as 522 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: long as you just maintain some personal boundaries, your risk 523 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: is effectively zero. That's what the science says. Meanwhile, we 524 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: got idiots running all over the place telling us you've 525 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: got to be masked in public all the time. No, 526 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. This is now superstition. This has 527 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: turned into some kind of public sanctimony, competition about who 528 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: gets to be who is the most dedicated to fighting 529 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: against COVID nineteen by wearing the mask the most. This 530 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: is absurd, it's stupid, but we're not allowed to talk 531 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: about it. We're supposed to the largest video sharing platform 532 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: in the world, YouTube is going to shut that down now. 533 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: Fortunately it's up in a whole lot of other places, 534 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: and it's just made the video. As so often happens 535 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: with censorship, it makes the video even more enticing. People 536 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: want to see it even more now they realize that 537 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: it was at least temporarily forbidden to them. But I 538 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: sit here and I just can't help but think about 539 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: how this is playing out and everything that we thought 540 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: about the status, everything that we've thought about the left, 541 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: we're being reminded of it now. They want power, they 542 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: like to wield power. They don't care about your individual rights. 543 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: And there is this mentality among the establishment political and 544 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: media class that science is something that you just say, 545 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: and it's a slogan, and you can bludgeon other people 546 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: into submission by saying science, you know, even if you're 547 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: completely ignorant of even the most basic tenets of science. 548 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: And that's what's happening right now. They have no explanations 549 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: for while the models were so off. Remember the models 550 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: were used to tell us all to shelter in place, 551 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: go home, be on lockdown, and that's what this is. 552 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: This is a shelter in place order from states across 553 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: the country. The models were the main justification for that. 554 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: We were not told, look, we might lose sixty thousand 555 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: to seventy thousand people over the next six or seven months, 556 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: but we might also be able to bring that number 557 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: down a bit if we just do the following things. No, no, 558 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: we were told today home, you're going to lose one hundred, 559 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: two hundred fifty thousand people even if you do everything 560 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: we say. So you better do everything we say because 561 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: it could be much much worse than that. My friends 562 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: that were wrong and bending the curve has now turned 563 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: into or flattening the curve has now turned into well, 564 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: we're going to kind of just keep trying to do 565 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: this for as long as possible, because really what ends 566 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: up opening as you just spread the spread of the 567 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: disease out over a longer period of time, which means 568 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: that you're going toward what is a de facto herd 569 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: immunity strategy with mitigation to slow the spread, but not 570 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: to stop it. That's what we're heading for. They won't 571 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: be honest about it, though, so instead what they say 572 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: as well, we might do. And there are some who 573 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: are claiming that we're really just going to have to 574 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: do a series of lockdowns, additional lockdowns. It's time to 575 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: free America. It's time for all of us to be free. 576 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: People want to stay home, they can stay home. You 577 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: don't want to open your business, don't open your business 578 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: you think you're at a high risk. Take whatever precautions you. 579 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: Any American needs to know that you, the American people, 580 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: as individuals, are responsible for your own health. No one 581 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: else cares about it as much as you do. You 582 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: might have loved ones who care a whole huck of 583 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot, but no one cares about your health as 584 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: much as you do as an individual. As a person, 585 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: you need to be empowered to make decisions for it. 586 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: You need to have the best data, the best information possible, 587 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: which is hard, hard when you've got suppression efforts from 588 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: YouTube and others. But it's time to restore the balance 589 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: of freedom in this country, including the risks that come 590 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: from allowing people to make their own decisions about their lives. 591 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: You're in the freedom huh. This is the Buck Sexton 592 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: Show podcast. In my mind, it's inevitable that we will 593 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: have a return of the virus, or maybe it it 594 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: never even went away. When it does, how we handle it, 595 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: we'll determine our fate. It's coming back, he says. We're 596 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: flattening the curve. Right, We're flattening the curve. Okay, it's 597 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: been flattened. Now what now? We either start to try 598 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: to live life again, or we just hide until a 599 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 1: hide and prey for a vaccine or a cure while 600 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: the economy and our society crumbles around us. Those are 601 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: the options. Some of us knew this in the beginning, 602 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: and try to tell everybody. I tried, and I will 603 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: tell you even I one. Once I saw those models, 604 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? I'm gonna say, Okay, don't 605 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: listen to the authorities. Two million people will die unless 606 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: we do what they say. I didn't know that the 607 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: models were going to be as far off as they were. 608 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: I thought I always bake into my analysis, or building 609 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: into my analysis. I don't know what baking is on 610 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: my mind. I always building my analysis the possibility of 611 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: government inaptitude and stupidity. I didn't think it would be 612 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: off by so much. But initially I said, look, we 613 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: got to go back to work. I understand that there 614 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: are a risk, I understand that there could be additional 615 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: spread of the virus, but we've got to go back 616 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: to work week. We can't do this doesn't make sense. 617 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: And now everyone's saying, wait a second, maybe maybe protecting 618 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: vulnerable populations, taking basic mitigation measures, engaging in some social distancing. 619 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: I also want to see how much the social distancing 620 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: really makes a difference versus the natural spread of the 621 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: virus over the progression of this Remember, it's been in 622 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: the country, and it's been in the country since January February, 623 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: and it was in March when we had this huge 624 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: spike in deaths and mortality, or sorry, it was in 625 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: March when we all realized rather that we were going 626 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: to have that huge spike in deaths and mortality. And 627 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: then the worst of the virus hit late March early April. 628 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it was spreading very rapidly. It spread, it 629 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: had spread to millions of people in this country already, 630 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: and then they're telling US. Oh, but because of these 631 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: mitigation measures. I'm sure the mitigation measures help. I'm sure 632 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: the common sense aspects of it do have an impact. 633 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: How much? How much of it is just don't be 634 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: around sick people, self quarantine if you can, and wash 635 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: your hands a lot. That's what I want to know. 636 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: I want to know what the answers are here. Thanks 637 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: for listening to the bus sets and show podcasts. Remember 638 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or 639 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Democrats, they don't want to 640 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: come back. They don't want to come back. I think 641 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: they should be back here, but they don't. They're enjoying 642 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: their vacation and they shouldn't be there at different and yeah, 643 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: I think they are. I think they are. If you 644 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: look at Nancy Pelosi eating ice cream on late night television, yeah, 645 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: I think they probably are. They having a good time. 646 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: I think they should be back. I think they should 647 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: all come back and we should work on this together. 648 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: President calling out Congress for being amia during this whole situation. 649 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi certainly has no sense of urgency to help 650 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: the American people. We're now seeing that the early warnings 651 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: about how they'll be there'll be a lack of incentive 652 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: for workers who have been a furloughed or lost their job. 653 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: Well lost their jobs, they've been fired at their furloughed 654 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they qualify for this, but there's a 655 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: lack of incentive for them to go back to work 656 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: because they prefer to get the state benefits plus six 657 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: hundred dollars of federal sweetener that was added into it 658 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: for the paycheck protection program. Now, look, I'm I'm not 659 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: about to sit here and say that workers who need 660 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: this money, you know, oh there, they're a bunch of 661 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: fat cats now or anything like that. That's crazy. But 662 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: they did structure this in such a way that Congress 663 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: did make this paycheck Protection program function so that it 664 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: is it is just people acting in their interests, saying 665 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: I'd rather stay and have no exposure to the virus, 666 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: stay home, not go back to work and make more money. 667 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: People are getting paid right now. I mean workers who 668 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: were used to making about fifteen dollars an hour. When 669 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: they look at the full scale of their salary now, 670 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: or rather their full take home pay, they're making a 671 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a week to not work. Producer Mark. I 672 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: know a lot of people who if they could do 673 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: literally nothing and just do whatever they want, and we're 674 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: going to get a thousand dollars a week, and then 675 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: they knew that there would be jobs probably waiting for 676 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: them when that money ran out, because everyone's gonna be 677 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: looking for jobs. I think a lot of people would 678 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: stay home. I don't think that would be hard to find. Yeah, 679 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: well I wouldn't. They get paid to do nothing. Has 680 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: more money than I was making my first few years 681 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: at the CIA. I wasn't making a thousand dollars a week, 682 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: so even not even close. Really, well, I mean, I 683 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: guess WHOA Sorry, I just smacked the microphone. I guess 684 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: it's I was having a little bit of a flashback 685 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: to being a federal federal bureaucrat and it was getting 686 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: me a little upset. But yeah, I know it's it's 687 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: this is the bill is functioning the way that it's 688 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: supposed to. And guess what, it's functioning in such a 689 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: way that people don't want to go back and do 690 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: their jobs, which is making the slowdown in the economy 691 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: even worse. Remember, there's there's the there's all these different 692 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: components that are not getting any focus right now. The 693 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: businesses that are going to go bankrupt, the industries that 694 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: are going to have a really hard time coming back 695 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: even when they're technically allowed to when the lockdowns end. 696 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: You know, restaurants operating at twenty five percent capacity means 697 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a whole lot fewer restaurants opening, especially 698 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: in places like New York, which means, you know, tens 699 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: of thousands of jobs are dependent on that. I mean, 700 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: the service industry I think is about one in ten 701 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: jobs in general in this country, and even be I 702 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: think retail might be one in ten. Service industry is 703 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: also something like one intent producer, Mark, take a look 704 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: and tell me what the service industry breakdown is and 705 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: what the retail industry is, because also retail, I think 706 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: a lot of folks are going to say, Okay, well 707 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: do I really want to go to a store if 708 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: I can just have things delivered to my house at 709 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: this point, which had already been happening for a long time, 710 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: But are you going to go to a store if 711 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: you have to wear a mask. Don't have to wear 712 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: a mask. Sitting around with Amazon on your lap or 713 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: with your laptop open to Amazon, don't have to don't 714 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: have to wear a mask for that, at least not 715 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: yet until the crazy Libs get ahold of it. Oh man, 716 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: And that brings me to the Oh, there's so much 717 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: more here. That brings me to the latest, which is 718 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: that Mike Pence was at the Mayo clinic and was 719 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: not wearing a mask, and now we have Pence mask Gate. 720 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: Mike Pence is terrible. What has he done? You know? 721 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: Was Pence? Was he nuzzling anybody? Was he coughing in 722 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: anybody's face? You know? The mask thing is a precaution 723 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: and it's not you know, you would think that they 724 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: could understand that. The Vice president when he's making a 725 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: public appearance. Here you go retail Wow, Brucer Mark on 726 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: the spot here. Retail and service workers make up about 727 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: thirty two percent of the workforce. So I was saying 728 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: about ten percent and about ten percent I was right, 729 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: but a little low on the low end. It's more 730 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: like thirty percent. Retail and service. That's where the jobs are, folks, 731 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: That's where a lot of the jobs across the country 732 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: come from. And those businesses are they are they ever 733 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: really coming back? What are we going to do? The 734 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: Democrats are also going to say, with any bailout for airlines, 735 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: with any bailout, I mean, the cruise ship industry is 736 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: getting a bailout. Like, I'm not a cruise ship guy, 737 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: so I can't say i'm but I understand a lot 738 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: of people work very hard in it, and you know 739 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: that they need to feed their families and everything else. 740 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's a business that's gonna work. 741 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: I've thought, you know, I had read enough of these 742 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: stories about you know, neurovirus outbreaks and these other things, 743 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: and I think, I don't know if Coxsacki virus was 744 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: one of but they'd have these these outbreaks of like 745 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: a stomach illness effectively a stomach you call it a 746 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: stomach flu, even though I don't think it's a flu, 747 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: and they'd have these on these ships and it would 748 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: just turn into a giant floating peatree dish. And that 749 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: was before COVID nineteen. So I'm not a cruise guy. 750 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: Producer Mark has actually done a cruise. You liked it, right, 751 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: You said it was good. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I 752 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: don't know, well, you know, I have one scheduled for December. 753 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going on it right now. 754 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: I see that. You're a perfect example. What I mean, 755 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: even if they say, oh no, Mark, it's fine, You're 756 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: allowed to go on your cruise. You're gonna get your 757 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: money back. You're gonna go on that cruise as of 758 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 1: right now, this second, I'm getting my money back. Yeah, 759 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: that's what I figured. Yeah, And I like, I can't 760 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: can't argue with that. I mean, I would do the 761 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: same thing if I were if I were in that out. 762 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: I had actually put down a deposit to go to 763 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: a beach um in December for my birthday, and I'm 764 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: hoping I might still be able to go, but who knows. 765 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the world is crazy right now and everyone's 766 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: we're all just being fed such a such an overwhelming 767 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: diet of fear. But oh no, don't worry that the 768 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: Democrats have got all this covered. And that's why they're 769 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: yelling about Pence and about about how Trump is a 770 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. Pence isn't wearing a mask playing here's fake 771 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 1: Republican Nicole Wallace. These people I just want to note, 772 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: and I just let me say this before I get 773 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: as I've always told you, and I'm honest with you 774 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,479 Speaker 1: about whatever mine, whatever my rules are for this show. 775 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: I don't trash friends of mine and so people that 776 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: I am friends with and have known for years, even 777 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: when they have gone to the dark side, even when 778 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: they have betrayed the team so to speak, or at 779 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: least Republican team. I don't mean team Buck. That's different. 780 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, someone cross the swords of the publicly, then 781 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: it's fair game. But if someone decides that they're going 782 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: to be, you know, an ideological turncoat, I will not 783 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: trash them if they're my friend the show. Just so 784 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: you know that, because some of you always reach out 785 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: to me, what about so and so, and I'm like, uh, 786 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, look back into my past. You can generally 787 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: tell who in the media business I'm pretty cozy with 788 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: and and I. But I'm but see, I'm honest with 789 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: you about that. The same way that I tell you 790 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: that I'm not doing neutral reports here that I have 791 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: an opinion. I also do not trash. I will not 792 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: ever lie about any of my friends or or promote 793 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: people that I think don't deserve it or anything like that. 794 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: But I will not attack them unless they attack me, 795 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: and which unfortunately does occasionally happen too. But some of 796 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: these former Nicole Wallace is not I've never met her, 797 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: don't know her, and you know, she seems like a horrible, smug, 798 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: nasty person who's not really good at anything. And there's 799 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: a lot of that in the Bush administration. You look back, 800 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: the Bush administration had a lot of really really impressive, 801 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: unimpressive folks. Um and you know, there's the early early 802 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: stage Trump administration. Anyone want to argue with me about 803 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: the bad choices made there because Michael Cohen called and 804 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: he wants a charge you, Oh, oh, he can't charge 805 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: you eight hundred dollars an hour, and he works. I 806 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: think he lost his law license. There's some very bad 807 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: choices made there too. Just because someone who works from 808 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: an administration doesn't mean they have anything worthwhile to offer 809 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: or worthwhile to say. And I think it's important that 810 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: all of us remember that. But here is Nicole Wallace 811 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: over at MSNBC just doing what she expects she's supposed 812 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: to do, which is just feed the MSNBC audience of 813 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: poorly informed, ideologically brainwashed lives a steady diet of Trump 814 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: Pence hatred. And so she serves that up with Glee 815 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: play nine, the second most powerful man in the world, 816 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: revealing himself in this video as a coronavirus truther, or 817 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: at least a mask truther. He's also much closer than 818 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: six feet. I mean, to touch an elbow, you have 819 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: to touch something, So he's closer than six feet. And 820 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: forget that he's the vice president. This is the kind 821 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 1: of hu human being that repels me in the grocery 822 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: store of the Walmart. I mean, I don't want to 823 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: be that close to anybody while we're still at this 824 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: phase of the pandemic. So the president and vice President 825 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: have really revealed themselves as this wacky combination of conspiracy theorists, 826 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: quack medical proponents, and truthers. He either doesn't believe that 827 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: the mask is keeping people safe or he doesn't think 828 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: that rule applies to him. And the danger here isn't 829 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: that people like your meal see that and not wear 830 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: our masks. There's so much wrong and so much stupid 831 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: there that I don't even really have time to go 832 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: over it. I would just say a few things. One is, 833 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: the vice president has been tested already numerous times for 834 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. He is negative, so it's not a lot 835 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: of us could be walking around. I could be an 836 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: asymptomatic carrier right now, and I would have no way 837 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: of knowing percentage wise. And this is all about risk, 838 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: It's all about percentages, it's all about likelihood. The percentage 839 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: chance that somebody who in the last couple of weeks 840 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: has been tested in is negative for COVID nineteen now 841 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: to have COVID nineteen and is really and is asymptomatic 842 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 1: is very very low. You know that the vice president 843 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: would have picked this up after being negative until whatever 844 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: it was a week or two ago when he had 845 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: his last test strikes me as highly implausible. And no 846 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: one's wearing masks all the time in all circumstances. There's 847 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: no such thing as perfect security. There's no such thing 848 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: as perfect protection from the virus. So what the heck 849 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: is in Nicole the idiot wallast talking about here? They're truthers. 850 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: What does that mean they don't believe the virus is real? MSNBC. 851 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 1: You can make a really fun montage and it's really 852 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: in retrospect tragic. But you can make a montage as 853 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, the virus is fine, it's no big deal, 854 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, And then when we all found out it 855 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: was going to be much worse than anticipated. Now it's 856 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,959 Speaker 1: all Trump's fault, which is the single most important thing 857 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: that the media can focus on now, Not stories about 858 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: therapeutics that maybe you're going to save a lot of lives, 859 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: not getting everyone ready for the psychological burden of having 860 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: to accept the risk of being out there and going 861 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: back to work, being involved in day to day life 862 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: in a way that is not continuous, endless shutdown. Instead 863 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: of the press rising to this occasion, they've gotten worse, 864 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: worse than they've ever been. And then you have the 865 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: Democrats who no surprise that they are still disgraceful, I 866 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: mean completely disgraceful on this topic, and that's not going 867 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: to change anytime soon. You're in the freedom hunt. This 868 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. The Washington Post 869 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 1: who have reported that the PDB, the President's Daily Brief, 870 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: was sounding the alarms over the spread of COVID in 871 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: China and the lethal danger that it posed to Americans 872 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: as early as January. Were you aware of that at 873 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: the time. No, But I'll tell you this as an 874 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: intelligence person, I've over twenty five years experienced in the 875 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: intelligence community. The President daily briefing is just so very 876 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: important decision making and the rest. So what you've just 877 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: heard begs the question, what did the president know and 878 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: when did he know it? In addition to which the 879 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: scientists tell him and when did he tell them? Because actually, 880 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, this president has presided over 881 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: the worst disaster in our country's history, an assault on 882 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: the lives and the livelihood of livelihoods of the American people, 883 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: and they did so by neglect of information, also denial 884 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: and delay in accepting the facts. That's going to be 885 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: the pitch for why the American people should vote for 886 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: unimpressive buffoon Biden and credibly accused of sexual assault buffoon 887 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: Biden in the fall, that Trump has presided over the 888 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: worst disaster in the history of this country, and it's 889 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: all his fault, and it's his fault because he didn't 890 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: listen to the experts, even though we have video of 891 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: the experts, including doctor Fauci, Saint Faucci himself, who was 892 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: telling us that this was not anything to be concerned 893 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: about in January and into February. So why would the 894 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: president have known? Differently, how would it be possible unless 895 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,439 Speaker 1: Fauci was out lying to the American people, which would 896 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: be a whole separate problem. But this is just the 897 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: rewriting of history that will occur. They will lie about this, 898 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: they will scheme, they will omit, and they will have 899 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: the media doing their bidding all along. And that's the 900 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: Democrat plan to defeat Trump in the reelection. And they 901 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 1: are rooting for failure here with the reopening of the economy. 902 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: They are they would like to see real economic pain. 903 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: There were liberals you will recall, who were admitting that 904 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: they wanted a recession before all this happened, because it 905 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: would mean that Trump wouldn't win. In fact, and I 906 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: think that she would. She would back me up on 907 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: saying this. In the first weeks that I was doing 908 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: that show Rising at the Hill dot com, I told 909 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: my then co host Crystal Ball several times, I said, look, 910 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to agree with me, and I'm just 911 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: saying she would back up that. I said this to 912 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: her many times. This is the only way Trump doesn't 913 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: win reelection is if we have a major recession that 914 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: hits a cyclical recession that has nothing to do with Trump, 915 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: which is really what this is in a sense, it's 916 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: not an economic recession or a cyclical economic recession. It's 917 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: a recession that has been caused by a you know, 918 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: the cycle of pandemics. Really, it's just a much longer 919 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: cycle than other things that we see with ten year 920 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: about every ten years you have some kind of a 921 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: correction in the market. Well, it looks like about every 922 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: hundred years we get hit with a really bad pandemic. 923 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: Although we had been hit with some bad ones in 924 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: the last ten years, that we should have last twenty years, 925 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 1: we should have paid closer attention to I think that's 926 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 1: clear at this point. But the Democrats don't have any 927 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: answers about how to make any of this stuff really better. 928 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting. Here's here's AOC the most 929 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: famous and most ignorant Democrat congress person I think right now. 930 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: Certainly if you add those two together, points for ignorance 931 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 1: and points for famousness she is. She's both shockingly ignorant 932 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: and very very prominent in left wing media. Here's what 933 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: she says. Played nineteen, mass unemployment in the United States 934 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: was a choice. We had policy options in front of us, 935 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 1: and we could have guaranteed payrolls in the United States 936 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: of America to prevent any person from losing their job 937 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: due to coronavirus, And what did elected officials do? What 938 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: did Mitch McConnell do, What did Donald Trump do? They 939 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: chose not to do that. So these are not things 940 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 1: that happened by accident. Unemployment is not happening by accident. 941 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 1: I just would want to know what her response would 942 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: have been. Then. It seems that I think we'll get 943 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: to if somebody does drilled down on this with AOC 944 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: if she's even thought this through, is that the government 945 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: just should have started paying people directly instead of trying 946 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: to pay people through their employer. But that would have 947 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: been even more complicated, wouldn't We saw them run out 948 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: of money, We saw that there were log jams that happened. 949 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: But also we don't want the government to be paying 950 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 1: people with money that is being debased in real time, 951 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: being devalued in real time because there is no productivity 952 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: behind it. We're now all just running this massive experiment 953 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: on does money have value? What is the value of 954 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: money if there is nothing other than the full faith 955 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: and credit of the United States Government to back that up? Well, 956 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: the full faith and credit of the United States Government 957 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: is worth what it is because of what all of 958 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: us do day to day. It's not just value because 959 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 1: the government says its value. There is something behind that promise. 960 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: There is the creation of products and the provision of 961 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: goods and services. There's intellectual property there. You know, there 962 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: are holdings of real estate and factories, and you know 963 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: there is an economy behind the currency. And right now 964 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: we're testing out how far can we stretch the a 965 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: currency without the currency without having an underlying economy to 966 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: back up what we're doing with the currency. This is 967 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: if you told somebody before this all happened that this 968 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: was the government's plan for all, but I think they 969 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 1: would be terrified because we are playing with fire, dancing 970 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: around a whole bunch of gasoline canisters. That's what we're 971 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: doing with the economy right now. It is a terrible, 972 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 1: terrible risk we are taking. By the time, Look, did 973 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: any you know people didn't see the financial meltdown in 974 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, which they told us could have 975 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: could have destroyed the global economy, and all the experts 976 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: and all the FED chair and they didn't see that. 977 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that they've got this whole thing 978 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: worked out right now and they have to listen to 979 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 1: people like Pelosi and AOC and Pelosi is just the worst, 980 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: the worst, blaming Trump, pretending intelligence. Pelosi is an imbecile. Oh, 981 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: I know, she's powerful and she's rich. They're a lot 982 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: of dumb, powerful, rich people. A lot of them work 983 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: in media. Actually, in fact, I think some of the 984 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: dumbest are also some of the rich, the most powerful. 985 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: It's true at Congress too. Thanks for listening to the 986 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: Bus Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the 987 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, 988 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: look at this. We've got Justin Amash, congressman who's now 989 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 1: going to be running as a third party candidate or 990 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 1: has has has been toying with this idea and now 991 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: looks like what he's launched a He's launched the Exploratory 992 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 1: Committee right the step right before one runs for president 993 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: as a Libertarian Party candidate. The Washington Post headline here 994 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: tells you a lot about what they're thinking. Justin Amash 995 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: could have a big impact on the twenty twenty presidential race. 996 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: But how well. Justin Amash is a on the issue 997 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: of civil liberties and surveillance, and the deep state has 998 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: shown himself to be a fraud. He was all in 999 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: on the Russia collusion hoak stuff. He couldn't see through 1000 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: that at all and had no problem with what was 1001 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 1: going on, had no problem with the FI acting as 1002 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: a weapon as an instrument of Democratic Party political control. 1003 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: In fact, he was a cheerleader for it. He was 1004 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: fine with it. Completely utterly wrong on Russian coclusion, as 1005 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: we see now also from not just the additional information 1006 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: that's come out from the Inspector General report, but also 1007 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: what we now know from additional disclosure in the case 1008 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: against General Michael Flynn, where he was set up, which 1009 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: I've been telling you for years, it was very obvious. 1010 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: You don't send in the FBI to talk to the 1011 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: National Security Advisor about the Logan Act unless you're desperate 1012 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: to concoct some scheme to come up with a criminal 1013 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: charge against him, which is which is exactly what they did. 1014 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: And it was the Obama administration on the way out, 1015 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: lashing out at Trump and his people for beating Hillary 1016 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: and taking power out of the hands of the Democrats 1017 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: and people that ideologically and psychologically and emotionally identify with 1018 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, irrespective of whether they say they're nonpartisan, 1019 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: but who work at the FBI and the DOJ. Never 1020 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: mind the appointees who are clearly partisans that Obama put 1021 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,760 Speaker 1: in place. They took it upon themselves to abuse their power, 1022 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: to abuse the law, and to try and undo the 1023 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: election results of the twenty sixteen presidential That's what they did. 1024 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: And where was Amash, the civil libertarian and all that? 1025 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: Who knows? He was horrible on this issue. And I 1026 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: think that the number of people who care about this 1027 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: guy running is tiny. And this is where you start 1028 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: to hear from libertarians who you know, I like some 1029 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: libertarians on a personal level, but after a while, the 1030 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: he cares so much about liberty, the whole libertarian thing 1031 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: with the third party candidates can get a little bit tiresome. 1032 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: It can what are they really hoping to accomplish by 1033 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: doing this that one day they're going to win the 1034 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: election with somebody like this justin and mind, Look, this 1035 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 1: is this is an employ for attention. It's like that 1036 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: guy who used to be a concern, used to be 1037 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: a big Trump supporter and a conservative, and then he 1038 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: became a never Trumper and it's just just like desperate 1039 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: for attention. He's like one of these guys who ends 1040 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: up on you know, Big Brother seventeen or something, one 1041 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: of those reality shows where they have some guy who 1042 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: played some other guy in a sitcom in the nineties 1043 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he's, you know, wrestling 1044 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: people in jello on TV. Just you know, anything to 1045 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: get back in the public eye. Well, yeah, I don't know. 1046 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: Justin Amash is running. Whoo, that's gonna really be exciting 1047 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: for some people. I saw some editorials today about how 1048 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: this is really gonna matter. I think people are just 1049 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: desperate for political news of any kind because there's been 1050 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: so little of actual campaign politics to speak of, because 1051 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 1: the Democrat candidate is locked away in a bunker. You am, 1052 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm running, running further. I'm running for the chief dog 1053 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: Catcher of Wichita. And my name is Joe Biden. And 1054 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why I talk like this, but I 1055 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: get confused about where I am. And you know, my 1056 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: leg hairs are blonde and corn pop And I took 1057 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: out the rusty razor blade and I said, hold on 1058 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: a second, Hold on a second, man, I got this. 1059 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: I got these blonde leg hairs. I got a shave first. 1060 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so weird. The whole thing is 1061 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: so weird. But we don't have a lot of focus 1062 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: on politics. So anytime there's a political story, I think 1063 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: people that make a living doing that they seize on them. 1064 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: They say, oh wow, look at this. You know, now 1065 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: we have an opportunity finally to talk about something that 1066 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: is not that is not about COVID nineteen. But that's 1067 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 1: where we are, justin amash exploratory. Who cares, you know, 1068 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: I never I never liked this guy. I don't know. 1069 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: Always struck me. It's just kind of surly and self important. 1070 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: Not a fan, not a fan, never interviewed him, never 1071 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: wanted to. Let's see we have Oh oh, this is good, 1072 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: this is good. First off, wait before I get to that, 1073 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: we have a Jared Kushner, who we don't hear from 1074 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: very often, but who's very much involved in the most 1075 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: inner workings of the White House and wields considerable authority 1076 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: within this White House. Here's what he said about the 1077 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: eternal lockdown crowd, which I think we should perhaps start 1078 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: referring to them that way, because they are setting this 1079 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: up as eternal lockdown would be a better option than 1080 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 1: those of us who want to open up the country 1081 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: play clip six and again, the goal here is to 1082 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: get people back to work. The eternal lockdown crowd can 1083 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: make jokes on the late night television, but the reality 1084 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: is is that the data is on our side, and 1085 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: President Trump has created a pathway to safely open up 1086 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: our country and make sure that we get our economy 1087 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: going and get America back to a place where it 1088 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 1: will be even stronger than it was before. He's right 1089 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: about the data being on our side. We should note 1090 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: that the data is on the side of those who 1091 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: want to reopen Oh, the study I mentioned to you before. 1092 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: I was going to get into the terror read allegations 1093 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: against Biden and the hypocrisy there, and we will in 1094 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: just a moment. But I did think it would be 1095 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: worth pointing this out to you because we often hear 1096 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 1: about the other costs out there, the other costs. And 1097 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 1: here's what we assume, because we can understand, we can 1098 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: reason through this that by preventing people from getting basic 1099 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: medical care and hospitals, by saying that surgeries are non 1100 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: essential and therefore will be delayed, all kinds of screening 1101 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: and testing and chemo and all these things have been 1102 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: put on hold. I mean I'm really worried. I'm gonna 1103 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: tell you something. I'm concerned that I'm just gonna wake 1104 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: up and one of my teeth is gonna be rotting 1105 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: out of my head and I'm gonna have to deal 1106 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: with Okay, how do I get emergency dental work done? 1107 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Because I haven't able to get a cleaning in months 1108 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: and I was due right when this whole thing happened. 1109 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: And you got to think, Okay, I mean, I know 1110 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: that's not a big deal, but imagine that same basic 1111 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: idea for people that have really serious health problems, which 1112 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 1: there are a lot of folks out there who do, right, 1113 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about what happens up a tooth rots 1114 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: out of my head. You look, getting a root Count album, 1115 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: that whole thing can be very painful. What happens with that, Well, 1116 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: imagine if I had a hard condition, or if I 1117 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: had diabetes, or if I had any if I had 1118 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: to really see if I needed to do dialogy assists 1119 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: and these things that you know, Okay, some you know procedures, 1120 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 1: they're they're continuing as suppose because others people would die, 1121 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: but they've cut back so much on them. Are our 1122 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: buddy Alex Barrenson, who's out there always raising the alarms 1123 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: about what the data really says versus what the lockdown 1124 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: consensus is telling you. He points this out. He sent this. 1125 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,959 Speaker 1: He sent this to me today and I had tip 1126 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: him for that. Oregonians have died at a rate well 1127 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: above the average since mid March, but the tide at 1128 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen is unclear. According to state data. Here's here's 1129 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: what it says. More Oregonians have died the past month 1130 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: that is typical in mid March and early April, but 1131 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: fewer than half the excess deaths were officially connected to coronavirus. 1132 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Two hundred and forty five Oregonians, and all died during 1133 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the five weeks between March sixteenth and March and April 1134 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: nineteenth than those who died the same five weeks in 1135 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and twenty nineteen. On average, you've 1136 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: got about a two hundred and fifty person death rate 1137 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: increase compared to the average for the three years before. 1138 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: During those five weeks, seventy eight Oregonians. Did I say Oregonians? 1139 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: Is it's Oregon, So it's Oregon. No, it must be Oregonians. 1140 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: I think it's Oregonians, right, Oregon Oregonians, come on. But anyway, 1141 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: during those five weeks, seventy eight Oregonians died from COVID nineteen, 1142 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: according to the the state Health authorities official count. So why 1143 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: why do we have that's less than half of the 1144 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: excess deaths? What caused all the what caused the spike 1145 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: in other deaths? Now we don't know this yet, but 1146 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: we might know relatively soon. What if the excess deaths, 1147 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 1: meaning a whole lot of people in Oregon, you know, 1148 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,479 Speaker 1: this would be over over one hundred excess deaths, which 1149 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: now you start to look at that across the country, 1150 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: because the situation in Oregon would be no different from 1151 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: other places state by state around the country. You know, 1152 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: if you had a hundred one hundred people per state 1153 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: and fifties states die of that five week here, that's 1154 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: five thousand people. It's a lot of people. And remember 1155 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Oregon is not, by population a very large states. Start 1156 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: looking at California, start looking at Texas, start looking at 1157 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 1: places where they have tens of millions of residents. The 1158 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: theory here and this is where I think, this is 1159 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: why Alex has flagged this story from Alex Barrinson. But 1160 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: the theory behind it clearly is, well, are these people 1161 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: that are dying from heart attacks or dying from other 1162 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 1: medical issues that come up, who just don't want to 1163 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: go to the hospital. They're frightened of going to the hospital, 1164 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: so they don't go, and then they don't get emergency 1165 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: medical care or early interventions necessary to save their lives. 1166 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: I e. The lockdown is directly causing loss of life. 1167 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: That has to be factored into what this whole process 1168 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: has been about. And the wisdom are lack thereof of 1169 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 1: taking this approach, certainly, get this data, we should continue 1170 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: to look at it. All right, we do need to 1171 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 1: talk about this absence of principle that we're seeing, and 1172 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 1: it's the Left should be made to really just just 1173 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: sit and stew in their lives, just they should have 1174 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 1: to marinate in their lack of principle over me too 1175 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: allegations against Kavanaugh and against Trump, but more more specifically 1176 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: or more clearly, the ones against Kavanaugh were really outrageous 1177 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: and wrong and became the focus of the country for 1178 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: about a month long period. So we'll talk about where 1179 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: a is the me too stuff when it comes to Biden. Oh, 1180 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 1: that's right. It disappears you're in the freedom hunt. This 1181 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:47,919 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Do you believe the 1182 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: allegation that's been put out there by terror read against Biden? 1183 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: So when we say bled women, it's for this explicit 1184 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 1: intention of making show their space for all women to 1185 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: come forward to speak their truth to be heard. And 1186 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 1: in this allegation, that is what Tara Reid has done. 1187 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: She has come forward, she's spoken, and they've done an 1188 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: investigation in several outlets, those investigations, Vice President Biden has 1189 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: called for himself. Vice President Biden has vehemently denied these allegations, 1190 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: and I support Vice President Biden. Do you think some 1191 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: of the Democrats who supported Blasi Forward's allegations against Cabinol, 1192 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 1: who've been silent on this Biden allegation, do you see 1193 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 1: that as a contradiction that they're not speaking out more 1194 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: and addressing Tara Reid's allegation. No, and I stand by 1195 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Vice President Biden. He's devoted his life to supporting women 1196 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: and he has vehemently denied this allegation. What else do 1197 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: you need to hear, folks? I mean, how much more 1198 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: clear could it be? There? You have Senator from New 1199 01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 1: York yours and Jila Brand, who has completely abandoned what 1200 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: she used to say on this issue, who has decided 1201 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: that women do not have a right to be believed, 1202 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: but rather they have a right to be heard. That's 1203 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: an enormous change from what it was during the Kavanaugh hearing. 1204 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Huge change. And isn't that so convenient that it happens 1205 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: to coincide with a necessary campaign of silence and or 1206 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: complacency in order to continue to allow the campaign, the 1207 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 1: ridiculous campaign of Joe Biden, to be pushed forward by 1208 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: these powermad Democrats. Everything that she said there was just 1209 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: just dishonest. It's a lie. It's disgusting. She's a fraud. 1210 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: She's a person of no ethics, no character, not willing 1211 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: to show any decency in the face of adversity, does 1212 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 1: whatever she has to do to get wherever she wants 1213 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: to go. I've also been told credibly, and I cannot 1214 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 1: repeat the story, but I was told credibly by somebody 1215 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: who is a Democrat, just what a horrible, what a 1216 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: horrible person Jilla Brand isn't what a fraud she is 1217 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: From very a very personal anecdote from someone that I 1218 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: trust a lot. So I've I've got I'm basically this 1219 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 1: more than just the what's out there of the public. 1220 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 1: I've just heard. She's a very bad person. You know. 1221 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: She does the whole like, Oh, I'm just a mom 1222 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: and I just oh, I'm just a mom who happened 1223 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: to be a senator, and I'm just you know, I'm 1224 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: just helping everybody, and it's all a front. She's not 1225 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a nice person, just remember that. And she's not a 1226 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,719 Speaker 1: principled person. That's clear. I mean, that's beyond any real doubt. 1227 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: The alley, why does she believe Joe Biden? What she 1228 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: should have to give a read under what oh? And 1229 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,520 Speaker 1: calling for the New York Times and other liberal newspapers 1230 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: to do an investigation. Where what about the FBI investigation 1231 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,799 Speaker 1: they called for of Kamada? They wanted an FBI investigation 1232 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 1: of somebody who's going to be elevated to the Supreme Court. 1233 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,640 Speaker 1: They don't want an FBI investigation of somebody who's going 1234 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: to become president and be elevated to being commander in chief. 1235 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: Have the nuclear codes have tremendous power? No, no FBI 1236 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,639 Speaker 1: investigation or those alligant Oh you know, what would happen? 1237 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 1: If they call for a background investigation. This is Oh, 1238 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: they were all so clever, weren't they. It's not a 1239 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,240 Speaker 1: criminal investigation, it's a background investigation. Well, how can you 1240 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 1: prove yourself? You know, how can you prove the negative here? 1241 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: If you're Kavanaugh. Problem with calling for a background investigation 1242 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: of Biden on this would be the FBI could go around. 1243 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: They already have names of people to talk to, they 1244 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 1: already have some contemporaneous corroboration. It's gonna look bad for Biden. 1245 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,719 Speaker 1: And remember, he's also a guy who snips women's heads, 1246 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 1: grabs them, gropes them, and it's just weird. Doesn't understand boundaries. 1247 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: I've said this before, it has been written in it 1248 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 1: was written in a book about Biden, and and I 1249 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 1: was told that personally by someone in the Secret Service 1250 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 1: that it was true that Biden used to love to 1251 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:47,879 Speaker 1: you know, strip completely old, gross, you know, wrinkly. Biden 1252 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 1: would strip down out of his clothing naked and go 1253 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 1: swimming in front of female Secret Service detailies. Is that 1254 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 1: anybody think if that were your wife or your daughter, 1255 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 1: would you be okay with that? You know? Who was 1256 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 1: assigned to protect this buffoon? A total buffoon, and really, 1257 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 1: if he hadn't just been in the game forever gotten 1258 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 1: very lucky. Guy's a loser. I know he was vice president. 1259 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't care dan Quail was vice president. All the 1260 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,360 Speaker 1: Liberals ever did was make fun of him and say 1261 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: how terrible he was, right vice president. Look, Cheney was 1262 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 1: like the dark Lord, he was the Sith. He's evil. 1263 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's a deeply unimpressive guy. And he also has 1264 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 1: this history of behaving poorly in and around in front 1265 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 1: of and around women. And Jilla brand just I stand 1266 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,760 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden. Just you can just hear just the 1267 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: power that she wants. She's just, oh, whatever she has 1268 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 1: to say here. This was the woman who threw her 1269 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: senate colleague Al Frankin under the bus because he had 1270 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: the you know, the video taking of him groping the woman, 1271 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: or not the video, the photo of him groping over 1272 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,599 Speaker 1: her body armor. But you know, it wasn't it wasn't 1273 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: funny and it was creepy. But you know, she said 1274 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 1: he's and someone else said that he tried to try 1275 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: to kiss her or something, and she was the one 1276 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: you will remember, who said he's got to go. And 1277 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 1: he had to step down from the Senate. He's gonna go. 1278 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 1: But Bill Clinton could be president for a years, but 1279 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Alfa Rega had to go. And I think Alfa Regan's disgraceful. 1280 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: But it's amazing how the principle here shifts depending on 1281 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 1: the needs that any particular Democrat has in the moment. 1282 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 1: The allegation against Joe Biden from Tara Reid is entirely credible, 1283 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 1: and the Libs don't know what to do about it 1284 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: because they know what they're going to do in that 1285 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: they're gonna make this go away, and they're gonna soft 1286 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 1: pedal it, and they're gonna just they're gonna just make 1287 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,520 Speaker 1: sure that Joe Biden is a viable candidate for the presidency. 1288 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Whatever that means, whatever they have to pretend is true 1289 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 1: that isn't true, they'll do it. Where are all the 1290 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 1: women's organizations? Think about that? Where's the National Organization of Women? 1291 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 1: And where's Glorious Steynham Where are all the feminists? Now? Oh, 1292 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: you mean that they're really just powermad leftists who pretend 1293 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 1: to care about women but really just care are about 1294 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: their own political agenda and use women as a tool 1295 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: as a weapon against conservatives and traditionalists and Republicans. That's 1296 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,879 Speaker 1: what they do. That's why feminism in the modern context 1297 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 1: now exists. Otherwise, explain to me where the women's organizations 1298 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: are right now backing up terror read supporting terror read. 1299 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh you mean they're all silent, They're all gone. No 1300 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 1: one's surprised by this. Thanks for listening to The Bus 1301 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the 1302 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. This 1303 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 1: election in November is going to determine so many things 1304 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 1: about our future. And it's going to be about our 1305 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 1: literally our health and whether we live or die. It's 1306 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: going to be about the state of our economy and 1307 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 1: whether we have a job and are treated with dignity 1308 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 1: or not. Where's Kamala Harris on the Joe Biden allegations? 1309 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 1: An you want to ask her about that? Oh? No, 1310 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,879 Speaker 1: that's right. She's still trying to get a vice president 1311 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 1: nod and get that slot from Biden, so she's not 1312 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna say anything about it other than she believes Joe Biden. 1313 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: Are they calling Let's remember all the things that they 1314 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: did to people like me and others who were defending Kavanaugh, 1315 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: who was manifestly innocent. It was it was obvious, didn't 1316 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: do anything. You can't even prove. When you can't prove 1317 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: that you even knew the year that you say something happened, 1318 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 1: or that you even met the person in question, you're 1319 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 1: somebody who has emotional problems and should not be listened 1320 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 1: to When a highly politicized case like this comes forward, 1321 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 1: as it did against Kavanaugh against Biden, this all adds up. 1322 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: What a guy who's a self important, narcissistic, powermad senator 1323 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,680 Speaker 1: from the nineties has a you know, a young, attractive 1324 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,600 Speaker 1: female staffer that he gets too handsy with. Does that 1325 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: sound implausible to anyone? Blasi Ford's thing about Kavanaugh, who 1326 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 1: had lived his life as a super nice guy and 1327 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,759 Speaker 1: a never done anything except promote and assist and help women. 1328 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 1: And you look, the story didn't add up. It just 1329 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: never added up, and there were no details, no contemporaries. 1330 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 1: And the other two people came forward, as you know, 1331 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 1: I mean, Julie Sweatneck's a liar. She's just a liar, 1332 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 1: crazy person and a liar. And the other woman, I 1333 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: think was you know, also a little bit deluded. I 1334 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: wasn't in debor Ramirez, you know, but Blasi Ford was 1335 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,560 Speaker 1: the one. Oh, and they worked so hard. She was 1336 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: the one who also said she couldn't fly. And then 1337 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: they found out that because they were trying to delay 1338 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 1: and set the pieces up to make sure that she'd 1339 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 1: have the best testimony possible against Cavina, all that turned 1340 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 1: out that she lied about that. That's a weird thing 1341 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: to live up before you're going to testify in front 1342 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 1: of the whole country and trying to ruin a man's life, 1343 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 1: all because you want some psycho lib to be on 1344 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court to pretend that abortion is a constitutional right, 1345 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 1: which it is clearly manifestly not. So here we are 1346 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,800 Speaker 1: now with a much more credible set of or much 1347 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: more credible allegation against Joe Biden, and there's just nothing. 1348 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 1: And this is the Democratic Party that tells you that 1349 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 1: they're better, they're honorable. These are the same Democrats who 1350 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 1: have been said the Trump lies and lies and lies 1351 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 1: is so terrible, so awful, And then this is what 1352 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: they offer up. I mean, there's a part of it 1353 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: just wants to look at them and say, you guys 1354 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: are not You're not serious, right, you don't really think 1355 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 1: that this is acceptable, that Joe Biden, is this this 1356 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 1: great opportunity for America. You can't really believe that. I mean, 1357 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: I refuse to think that that's something they really believe. 1358 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 1: But I guess they are going to pretend. Oh, there's 1359 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:37,639 Speaker 1: another female politician who wants a shot at being Biden's 1360 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,680 Speaker 1: vice president, maybe Gillibrand, or Gillibrand rather thinks that she 1361 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: should be the vice president. I'm sure that that's crossed 1362 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,040 Speaker 1: her mind. But there's Stacy Abrams out there who's openly 1363 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,600 Speaker 1: lobbying for this in a way where it's she's like 1364 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: telling Joe Biden, nice presidential campaign, you have there be 1365 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 1: a shame if some social justice came after it. You 1366 01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You know, you better make me 1367 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 1: VP or else. That's really been the attitude that you've 1368 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 1: been seeing. But here's Stacy Abrams when she was asked 1369 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: about the Biden allegations, the sexual assault allegations, and here's 1370 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 1: what she said at Play fourteen. Biden's campaign says, untrue, 1371 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,600 Speaker 1: never happened. Is this a credible allegation? I believe that 1372 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: women deserve to be heard, and I believe that they 1373 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 1: need to be listened to, but I also believe that 1374 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 1: those allegations have to be investigated by credible sources. The 1375 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 1: New York Times did a deep investigation, and they found 1376 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: that the accusation was not credible. I believe Joe Biden. 1377 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,600 Speaker 1: I believe that he is a person who has demonstrated 1378 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: that his love of family, his love of our community 1379 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 1: has been made perfectly clear through his work as a 1380 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 1: congressional leader and as an American leader. I know Joe Biden, 1381 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 1: and I think that he is telling the truth and 1382 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 1: that this did not happen. Lies lies and lies. Near 1383 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Times did not come to the conclusion that the allegation 1384 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 1: was not credible. They just can't tell you definitively whether 1385 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,639 Speaker 1: or not that had happened. And even if they did 1386 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 1: say that it was not credible, that's laughable. Of course 1387 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 1: it's credible. There's nothing to disprove it, and everything about 1388 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,640 Speaker 1: it lines up. It is entirely plausible, and something that 1389 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 1: is entirely plausible when you have a named accuser, given 1390 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,520 Speaker 1: the circumstances of what we know of their working relationship 1391 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 1: at the time, as well as Joe Biden's propensity to 1392 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,879 Speaker 1: be handsy and gross with women, in general, that's called credible. 1393 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember the year, I don't remember where was, 1394 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember how I got there. Nobody will tell 1395 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 1: that this actually happened. I didn't tell anyone at the time, 1396 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 1: and I put two doors on my house because it 1397 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 1: still freaked me out decades later. Oh and also, I 1398 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 1: can't fly, just kidding, except when I go on vacation, 1399 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I can fly, So I guess I will fly. That 1400 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:59,879 Speaker 1: was Blasi Ford against Capit was that that was credible. Huh. Oh, 1401 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 1: we all see what's going on here. Just remember it. 1402 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 1: You were right. I was right. We were right about 1403 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:11,320 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh and what happened there. And also the recognition that 1404 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: meets you would be used as a political weapon against 1405 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,600 Speaker 1: the right and abandoned the moment that it could be 1406 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 1: used against the left. We called it because we know, 1407 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 1: we know who these people are. They don't have internal principle, 1408 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 1: they don't have a moral compass. It is all just 1409 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,439 Speaker 1: whatever they need for power, whatever they have to do, 1410 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 1: they will do. That's what we're seeing here. Oh, yes, 1411 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,960 Speaker 1: women have a right to be heard. Try saying that 1412 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: if you're a Republican and shut down allegations of sexual 1413 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 1: assault against you. Women just have a right to be heard, 1414 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:46,759 Speaker 1: not to be believed. You're in the freedom hunt. This 1415 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sex and Show Podcast. Can a joke 1416 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 1: on Twitter get you dragged in front of the administrative State? Well, 1417 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be asking the question if it wasn't obviously yes. 1418 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 1: But let's talk to the person who can tell you 1419 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,679 Speaker 1: just what this ordeal is all about. Mister Ben Dominicch 1420 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: joins us now. He is the founder and publisher of 1421 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 1: The Federalist. You know, the Federalist dot com is one 1422 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 1: of our favorite sites. Mister Ben, good to have you on, sir. 1423 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 1: It's good to be with you. Buck. How are you 1424 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,479 Speaker 1: doing today? Oh man, I'm hanging in there, you know, 1425 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 1: in lockdown an Nycat. It's not exactly a great time 1426 01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: in the history of the city or the world for 1427 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: that matter. But I'm gonna be all right. You're gonna 1428 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: be alright, Our audience is gonna be alright. Let's let's 1429 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 1: tell me first about what happened here. Ben, you made it. 1430 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Tell folks the story because I haven't gotten in any details. 1431 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 1: You made a joke on Twitter that upset the Libs 1432 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: had to do with unions, and now you had to 1433 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 1: go to court. What happened. So here's what happened, Buck, 1434 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: and I'll try to keep this brief. Basically, back last 1435 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 1: year during the during June, there was a walkout happening 1436 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 1: at Vox Media, something that I'm sure some of your 1437 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,600 Speaker 1: listeners are familiar with as a left of center website, 1438 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: and they were, you know, demanding all sorts of different 1439 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 1: things that they collective bargaining agreement, including, uh, some some 1440 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,640 Speaker 1: things that I thought to be pretty pretty crazy. Um. 1441 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 1: But just as a matter of commenting about it on Twitter, 1442 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 1: I made a joke that amounts to FYI to the 1443 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: Federalist the organization I run. You know, the next one 1444 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: of you tries to unionize, I'll send you back to 1445 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: the salt mine. That this is obviously a joke. I 1446 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 1: do not now own a sault mine. I have not 1447 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 1: ruled it out as a future purchase. In fact, you know, 1448 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 1: I think I think that they could be you know, 1449 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 1: pretty productive in terms of in terms of people need salt. 1450 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,640 Speaker 1: But it's also one of these things where you know, 1451 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 1: the the left always wants to use any opportunity to 1452 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: weaponize the bureaucratic state, the administrative state against people who 1453 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 1: they don't like. And in this instance, leftist writer Matt Brunig, 1454 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,640 Speaker 1: who's married to at that time a writer at the 1455 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 1: Washington Post, now a writer at the New York Times, 1456 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,880 Speaker 1: took umbrage with it and filed a labor complaint with 1457 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,000 Speaker 1: the National Labor Relations Board, one that was also filed 1458 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,800 Speaker 1: by another attorney in Massachusetts. Neither of these men have 1459 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: ever worked with us, have any relationship with us, have 1460 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,600 Speaker 1: ever been an employee or a contractor at the Federalist. 1461 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 1: But under the National Labor Relations Boards perspective on things, 1462 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,439 Speaker 1: they believe that anyone anywhere can file any kind of 1463 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,599 Speaker 1: complaint along these lines, and they investigate it at taxpayer expense. 1464 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 1: Now what does that mean, Well, I'll tell you what 1465 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 1: it means. It basically means they have the power supoena 1466 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 1: power and other power over you that they can use 1467 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 1: to try to force you to do whatever they want 1468 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 1: you to do. In this instance, they attempted to subpoena 1469 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,679 Speaker 1: all email communications between staff on any matters going back 1470 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 1: quite a bit. Looking not just at like, you know, 1471 01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't just a request about benefits or negotiations or 1472 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 1: anything along those lines. It was it was a subpoena 1473 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: that applied to all of our reporting, all of our 1474 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 1: editorial conversations and the like, a huge invasion of our 1475 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 1: First Amendment rights as a publication. My own employees, of course, 1476 01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 1: thought this all was just a giant joke. They couldn't 1477 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,720 Speaker 1: believe it was something that was actually happening. Uh. They 1478 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 1: were joking about, you know, making shirts or selling branded 1479 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 1: federal assault shakers or thinks of that nature, which we 1480 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 1: might still do. They say, yes, yes, well thank you, 1481 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 1: you'll you'll definitely get the first model when we when 1482 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 1: we have them come in and the you know, thankfully, 1483 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:37,800 Speaker 1: at this point, I mean, I kind of looked around 1484 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,040 Speaker 1: and was like, wow, this is this is incredible. They 1485 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 1: they can subpoena my employees to come and testify in 1486 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 1: New York, a state that they don't live in and 1487 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 1: that we don't have an office in. Uh, And they 1488 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 1: can they can force them to come, they can make 1489 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,800 Speaker 1: them pay the expense, they would have to hire their 1490 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 1: own lawyers, et cetera, et cetera. And thankfully, in this instance, 1491 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,439 Speaker 1: I found an organization, a small group of lawyers who 1492 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 1: basically just work on these types of cases, the New 1493 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 1: Civilibrities Alliance, which is an excellent little organization stood up 1494 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,680 Speaker 1: by fella named Philip Hamburger, who will be familiar to 1495 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,679 Speaker 1: anybody who reads about First Amendment cases and cases involving 1496 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 1: the bureaucratic and administrative state. And they offered to come 1497 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 1: in and really help us fight this battle against these 1498 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,759 Speaker 1: bureaucrats who really don't care that none of my employees 1499 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 1: were offended by this, that none of them saw it 1500 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 1: as a threat against their ability to unionize. And that's 1501 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 1: something that the judge and the eventually the administrative law 1502 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 1: judge ruled in the past a couple of weeks that 1503 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: in fact, it's their opinions and even their athidavits filed 1504 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 1: saying that they were an offended don't matter. That that's irrelevant, 1505 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 1: and that even in this case, you know, you can't 1506 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,439 Speaker 1: say that this was a joke. It has to be 1507 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,679 Speaker 1: interpreted as a serious threat. Now, I'll tell you about 1508 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the truth is, I could have settled this for nothing. 1509 01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no threat to my threat to my livelihood. 1510 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 1: You know, they don't have in a case like this, 1511 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 1: for something as small as this. They would just compel 1512 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,639 Speaker 1: with my speech, they would force me to they propose 1513 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 1: deleting the tweet and then and then posting information about 1514 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,799 Speaker 1: the ability of my employees to unionize, which has informed 1515 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 1: people they're well aware of. And that was something that, 1516 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,400 Speaker 1: of course I could easily do to make this go away. 1517 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 1: But the reason that I decided not to is to 1518 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,960 Speaker 1: prove a point, which is that I don't think that 1519 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 1: most people who are out there in this day and 1520 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 1: age of social media realize that if they if someone 1521 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: posted something like this, who let's just say, owned a 1522 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: series of gas stations, or owned a deli or had 1523 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 1: a small business, and that their neighbor who doesn't like 1524 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 1: them is offended by it, or their neighbor online, someone 1525 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 1: who they don't even know, you know, just some random 1526 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 1: American can file this type of legally forceful action against 1527 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 1: them in such a way that it goes after them 1528 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 1: at texa expense and can frankly, you know, put them 1529 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,559 Speaker 1: out of business just through the expense of having to 1530 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 1: fight this type of case. And you know, the bureaucrats 1531 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,920 Speaker 1: in this case, they always assume that you're just going 1532 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,680 Speaker 1: to bend. They were shocked that they didn't take the 1533 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 1: deal and instead, you know, proceed to fight. And here's 1534 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 1: the thing, you know, this will go and work its 1535 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 1: way through the administrative law process, but then we'll get 1536 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 1: to the real courts where the Constitution actually matters. And 1537 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: I think, well, then we'll have a conversation about whether 1538 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 1: this is something that Congress intended under their creation of 1539 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 1: the NLRB, whether it's something that ought to continue in 1540 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,759 Speaker 1: terms of the ability of people who have no connection 1541 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,720 Speaker 1: to any organization to file wherever they want and to 1542 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,640 Speaker 1: compel speech on the part of those whose opinions they 1543 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,879 Speaker 1: just happened to not like we're speaking of Ben Dominic, 1544 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 1: founder of the Federalist. You can go to the Federalist 1545 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 1: dot com. It's one of my favorite sites. His piece 1546 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal is how my joke on 1547 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 1: Twitter became a federal case. He's telling us about it. Now. Now, Ben, 1548 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,719 Speaker 1: you're saying that you wanted you you're fighting this on principle, 1549 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 1: which I can totally appreciate and understand, and you're going 1550 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 1: to take this into real court. Got to ask you, though, 1551 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,479 Speaker 1: do you have any concerns that somehow, you know, we 1552 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,240 Speaker 1: just saw, in my opinion, a horrible decision from the 1553 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,680 Speaker 1: Supreme Court on New York City gun law, which you 1554 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,840 Speaker 1: know it's a conversation we could have another time. But 1555 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 1: to me, it's just inexcusable what John Roberts did and 1556 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 1: it clearly wouldn't stand for say, abortion rights or something 1557 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 1: else something like that. But you seem pretty confident going 1558 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 1: into court that you'll be okay on this. Any concern 1559 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,400 Speaker 1: that you might get the wrong judge, Oh, I think 1560 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 1: that that's absolutely a possibility. I mean, you could, you 1561 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,439 Speaker 1: could end up on the wrong side of this and 1562 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,439 Speaker 1: certainly have to you know, see the ramifications of that. 1563 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,080 Speaker 1: But in from my perspective, that's worth the risk in 1564 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,280 Speaker 1: this scenario where the deck is so stacked in the 1565 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,080 Speaker 1: favor of the bureaucrats currently that I'd like to see 1566 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:54,639 Speaker 1: this question resolved. And while these courts behave in their 1567 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,719 Speaker 1: own little area of law where the administrative law judge 1568 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 1: one day as the person making the argument for the 1569 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,639 Speaker 1: bureaucracy on the other day. Uh, And that's the whole 1570 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,639 Speaker 1: world in which the rules effectively don't apply the way 1571 01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 1: that they apply within the traditional court system as we 1572 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 1: understand it. I think that that's a bad thing, and 1573 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I think that it's something that ought to be curtailed. 1574 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,360 Speaker 1: And I don't believe that this I don't think that 1575 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: the people who brought this case really thought it through 1576 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 1: in terms of the fact pattern of such a clear 1577 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 1: misuse of a kind of troll on, a trollish capacity 1578 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,439 Speaker 1: of the type of bureaucracy that's supposed to look out 1579 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 1: for workers as opposed to engaging in something that could 1580 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, frankly lead to the you know, the organization 1581 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,920 Speaker 1: if they if they didn't have the resources that we 1582 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 1: do and the connections that we do, you know, being 1583 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 1: bankrupted or or you know, putting those workers out of 1584 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 1: the street without their jobs. And you know what, Buck, 1585 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,639 Speaker 1: I think that this is also an indication of something 1586 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,840 Speaker 1: looking towards, looking forward to the future, the ability that 1587 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,719 Speaker 1: we have in this day and age to have people 1588 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,559 Speaker 1: drill down and attack small businesses as we've seen it 1589 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,240 Speaker 1: within primarily the religious freedom aspects of things across the 1590 01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:06,400 Speaker 1: country via these uh, these courts that are essentially you know, 1591 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 1: carved out and unresponsive to citizens and individuals. I think 1592 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 1: that's a real danger and it's something that we need 1593 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 1: to start looking at in terms of Curtailian for the future, 1594 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: where we're going to have you know, a nation of 1595 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 1: Karen's who are going out there and uh and using 1596 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: the power of these agencies to enlist taxpayer funds and 1597 01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 1: and put bureaucrats after people they just happen to not 1598 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,320 Speaker 1: like just one quick one for you beat before we 1599 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: let you go back to fighting fighting the man or 1600 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:38,800 Speaker 1: the NLRV man, did anybody from this administrative agency when 1601 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 1: you're sitting there and I suppose you have legal representation, 1602 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 1: but here you're like when you say, it's a joke, 1603 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,799 Speaker 1: which it clearly is. Right, Like, I've joked around before 1604 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,680 Speaker 1: and said, you know when when I was worrying the 1605 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,960 Speaker 1: CI be like, all right, like I'm gonna I'm gonna 1606 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,519 Speaker 1: send somebody. I'm gonna send this person to Gitmo or something. 1607 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 1: Right Like you just get angry and you know I 1608 01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,640 Speaker 1: don't have that authority. I can't do that. It's not 1609 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,439 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You know, you don't, as you pointed out 1610 01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 1: own assault mind, you can't send anyone there. And it's 1611 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,880 Speaker 1: clearly a joke when you say that, though, What is 1612 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 1: their response, Well, what I'd say, if they're two things. 1613 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,519 Speaker 1: One is a legal matter. They say, well, that doesn't 1614 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,400 Speaker 1: matter because someone will someone could reasonably take it literally, 1615 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 1: which is to me just a complete misunderstanding of that 1616 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 1: standard historically and the way the courts have used it 1617 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: in the past. In other words, it eliminates any context 1618 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,599 Speaker 1: for the fact, you know, maybe he does own assault 1619 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 1: mine or something along that line. But the other thing is, 1620 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 1: and this is something I think we need to understand 1621 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 1: about the folks who are involved in this. These are 1622 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,120 Speaker 1: bureaucrats who take everything literally. They are humorless. They have 1623 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,600 Speaker 1: no concept that this is a joke. And it makes me, 1624 01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 1: it makes me really wonder, you know, how familiar they 1625 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 1: are with just what Twitter is. Twitter is just a 1626 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 1: place for snark and humor and all types of comments 1627 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,120 Speaker 1: within this area. And you know, to your point, I mean, 1628 01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,400 Speaker 1: imagine if someone were to come after you for saying, 1629 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, this ex government employee saying he wants to 1630 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,800 Speaker 1: send me to Gitmo, I'm scared, you know, right exactly. 1631 01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's very much. I mean, you know, 1632 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 1: I was saying I was saying it to my little 1633 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: sister's boyfriends for years. I hope I can't get sued 1634 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,120 Speaker 1: for it. You know, it's crazy, But you know, look, 1635 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,000 Speaker 1: here's what I'll here's what I'll say this is. I 1636 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,880 Speaker 1: think this is a fight worth happening because it's so 1637 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,640 Speaker 1: clear cut, and because we have the resources and the 1638 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,360 Speaker 1: friendships in order to make this fight where other people couldn't. 1639 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,920 Speaker 1: And I hope that ultimately this leads to, you know, 1640 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,240 Speaker 1: some some real questions that people ask about the appropriateness 1641 01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:36,639 Speaker 1: of empowering bureaucrats with this type of unrestricted ability to 1642 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,800 Speaker 1: invade the lives of people across the country based just 1643 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,760 Speaker 1: on the fact that they have differences in politics. I 1644 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 1: think that's very dangerous. Ben dominant, everybody found to the 1645 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,840 Speaker 1: federalist Ben, stay in the fight, man, let us know 1646 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 1: how it goes. Thank you, Buck, I will Thanks for 1647 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 1: listening to the bus Essen Show podcast. Remember to subscribe 1648 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,439 Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get 1649 01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,120 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Oh, before we get to roll, call a 1650 01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 1: story here out of New York that's gotten a lot 1651 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,480 Speaker 1: of attention is trending on Twitter on social media. Deblasio 1652 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 1: breaks up rabbi's funeral and lashes out over virus distancing. 1653 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,599 Speaker 1: After overseeing the dispersal of hundreds of Hasidic mourners in Brooklyn. 1654 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 1: Mayor Bill de Blasio called the gathering absolutely unacceptable, and 1655 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,720 Speaker 1: he warned, quote the Jewish community in all communities, that 1656 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,160 Speaker 1: any violation of social distance and guidelines can lead to 1657 01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:34,760 Speaker 1: a summons or arrest. Quote. Something absolutely unacceptable happened in 1658 01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,680 Speaker 1: Williamsburg tonight, a large funeral gathering in the middle of 1659 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,479 Speaker 1: this pandemic. This is from them, This is Mayor to Blasio. 1660 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,000 Speaker 1: When I heard, I went there myself to ensure the 1661 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 1: crowd was dispersed. And what I saw will not be 1662 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 1: tolerated so long as we are fighting the coronavirus. End 1663 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 1: quote Producer Mark, I would like you to weigh in 1664 01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,719 Speaker 1: on this as a fellow American, and as a fellow 1665 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,400 Speaker 1: New Yorker, and as a Jewish New Yorker. What say you, producer, Well, 1666 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,280 Speaker 1: in New Jersey, in but it's New York. Come on, 1667 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,400 Speaker 1: I grew up in New York, right, You're from New York. 1668 01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,280 Speaker 1: What say you about this situation? And why is it 1669 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 1: trending on social media? Well? I think because Deblasio tweeted 1670 01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:17,360 Speaker 1: something basically targeting naming Jews. So that's why everyone's mad 1671 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 1: at him right now. And I mean, first of all, 1672 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,360 Speaker 1: I want to point out that de Blasio does one 1673 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 1: thing great, uniting everyone and hating him, and I hate 1674 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,639 Speaker 1: him too. I think what he was trying to say 1675 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,280 Speaker 1: is the Hasidic Jews, the ultra Orthodox Jews, they don't 1676 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,800 Speaker 1: listen to anybody, So why would you tweet that They don't. 1677 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,760 Speaker 1: They're not on Twitter, they don't use social media, they 1678 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,719 Speaker 1: don't use technology. So he's even dumber than we think. 1679 01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,479 Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to reach the Hasidic community 1680 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,360 Speaker 1: well on Twitter. I think that's probably true. I know 1681 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,559 Speaker 1: enough to know that that's the case. Yes, So if 1682 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,200 Speaker 1: you're trying to reach out to them, doing it on 1683 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,680 Speaker 1: Twitter is a bad job and basically just angered all 1684 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,879 Speaker 1: the all Jewish people by tweeting that, because he targeted 1685 01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,439 Speaker 1: just Jewish people, as if there weren't Christians meeting on 1686 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:05,839 Speaker 1: Easter in New York, as if Muslims don't unite, aren't 1687 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,800 Speaker 1: doing it. Every religion is doing this right now to 1688 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,599 Speaker 1: kind of push back on the social distancing stuff. So 1689 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,320 Speaker 1: why are you targeting just the Jewish people? All? Right, 1690 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,880 Speaker 1: there you have it, Producer Mark weighing in, let's get 1691 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 1: to a row call. Oh remember, folks, Bucksexton dot com 1692 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,439 Speaker 1: a fantastic website and if you have not already, YouTube 1693 01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,519 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck Sexton we have a YouTube channel, 1694 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 1: so if you have not yet seen some of our 1695 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 1: long form interviews that we've done. We have a great 1696 01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:37,920 Speaker 1: one with James Altucher. We had the MotorCity Madmen on 1697 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 1: recently Ted Nugent, We've had who else have we done 1698 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,479 Speaker 1: long Jack Carr. We've done these long form interviews. You 1699 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,840 Speaker 1: got to check them out, So please subscribe to our 1700 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,240 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. It's YouTube dot com slash buck Sexton and 1701 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,479 Speaker 1: also bucksexon dot com. Put that on your bookmarks. If 1702 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: enough of you start bookmarking it, I will just start writing, 1703 01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:01,840 Speaker 1: if not bi weekly weekly for the website. That's right, baby, 1704 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna start using bucksax and dot com for exclusive 1705 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 1: written content. And I've even talked to the snow Princess 1706 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,559 Speaker 1: about doing some cooking videos with me because she's a 1707 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:14,240 Speaker 1: fantastic cook. I'm like decent, Like producer Mark would eat 1708 01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,559 Speaker 1: my food and be like, I cannot complain about this 1709 01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,599 Speaker 1: because it's good her food. The two of us would 1710 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 1: sit there and be like this is amazing. So yeah, 1711 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,920 Speaker 1: I would just ask you why you have married her yet? Yeah, 1712 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 1: those jokes. I'm working on it. I know I'm working 1713 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,200 Speaker 1: on She made she made a caccio a peppe last night. 1714 01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,240 Speaker 1: You like Italian, right, Yeah, what in the world is 1715 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: that you don't know? Cacchioi peppe. Oh, it's like a 1716 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:41,120 Speaker 1: spaghetti in like a in the Peccarino Romano cheese sauce 1717 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:45,839 Speaker 1: with pepper. I'm sold. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's like fancy. 1718 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,600 Speaker 1: She's explained to me. It's fancy Italian macaroni basically like 1719 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,120 Speaker 1: it's a fancy Italian macaroni and cheese, but it's with 1720 01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 1: with spaghetti instead of you know, whatever you call the 1721 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 1: mac macaroni. But yeah, it's really really good. So yeah, 1722 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: I know. I'm We'll make it happen. You and missus 1723 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Producer Mark, well have you guys? Oh, when when we're 1724 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 1: not under threat of Deblasio arresting us for socializing, then 1725 01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,599 Speaker 1: we can we can make you guys, Am I under 1726 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,880 Speaker 1: extra threat. Now I don't I don't understand. Oh you 1727 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 1: mean that's de Blasio's Uh, he's going after certain people 1728 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,200 Speaker 1: a little more than others. It seems, I don't know. 1729 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,760 Speaker 1: I leave that to the mayor's office. He's not doing 1730 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,599 Speaker 1: himself any favors. You're right, by the way, as as 1731 01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,599 Speaker 1: a personality, contest thing or as as a popularity contest, 1732 01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 1: rather Deblasio. It's it's remarkable that this guy is the 1733 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,000 Speaker 1: mayor of New York City. I will tell you this. 1734 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,840 Speaker 1: I know crazy libs of all kinds. I know them 1735 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 1: from work, I know them personally. I have never heard 1736 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 1: a person make a case for Bill de Blasio being 1737 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: anything other than terrible. Never. I've never met a human 1738 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,840 Speaker 1: being who's like, I think Bill de Blasio does a 1739 01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 1: really good job. And that's not I know. I know 1740 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 1: libs who love Pelosi, you know, yes, Queen, and I 1741 01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,080 Speaker 1: think she's amazing. I know libs who you know, name 1742 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,720 Speaker 1: you're They love Adam Schiff, they you know, name your 1743 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,120 Speaker 1: odious Democrat. And I can think of people that think 1744 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,759 Speaker 1: that they're wonderful, wonderful, and I know them. I've never 1745 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,840 Speaker 1: and just it's an anecdote, I know. But I mean, 1746 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,920 Speaker 1: do you know anybody. No, I've never met one human 1747 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,960 Speaker 1: being who likes built to Blasio. And yet he's the 1748 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 1: mayor and he wanted to run for president. How is 1749 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,519 Speaker 1: it even possible? And he ran for president He really 1750 01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,840 Speaker 1: legitimately thought he was going to win the president. Oh 1751 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:27,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, it's just stunning anyway, All right, roll call 1752 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,840 Speaker 1: remember Bucksexton dot com and also YouTube dot com slash 1753 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 1: buck Sexton want to get as much digital Team buck 1754 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 1: action going as we possibly can. Just more ways for 1755 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,920 Speaker 1: us all to keep in touch, more content, and more 1756 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:40,640 Speaker 1: ways to keep you safe and warm at night. And 1757 01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,000 Speaker 1: with that in mind, Mark writes in hey Buck producer, Mark, 1758 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,360 Speaker 1: you and Tulula keep me safe and warm at night. 1759 01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I live in the foothills of Colorado. 1760 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,000 Speaker 1: My wife and I own a small, one chair hair salon. 1761 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,920 Speaker 1: Our governor laid out a reopening plan set to start 1762 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,680 Speaker 1: today April twenty seventh. My wife started booking clients and 1763 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 1: we were very optimistic about getting back to normal. Then 1764 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,679 Speaker 1: on Friday, Denver County announced the stay at home order 1765 01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,880 Speaker 1: was to remain in effect till May eighth. Then our 1766 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 1: county quickly followed suit on Friday. As a former sheriff's deputy, 1767 01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,519 Speaker 1: I constantly question the constitutionality of all this. How can 1768 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,839 Speaker 1: a county health official tell us our legal small business 1769 01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,200 Speaker 1: is now illegal to operate without any subsidy and without 1770 01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,559 Speaker 1: suspending rent and mortgages. Keep up the good work, boys, 1771 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,760 Speaker 1: You're the highlight insanity of my daily routine. Well, Mark, 1772 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,840 Speaker 1: that's really high praise and we appreciate that. It's very 1773 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of you, and that's why we keep doing what 1774 01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,720 Speaker 1: we do here every day. So thank you so much 1775 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:42,840 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. Absolutely absolutely. As for the constitutionality of 1776 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:48,439 Speaker 1: this and the capricious nature of the state authorities that 1777 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,080 Speaker 1: are pushing these shutdowns, look, I can't tell you that 1778 01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,640 Speaker 1: this is anything other than what it is, which is 1779 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,840 Speaker 1: bad and it's overreach and it's a problem. So but 1780 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 1: thank you for listening out in the foothills of Colorado. 1781 01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,679 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Andrew. Oh On one more note, guys, 1782 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,560 Speaker 1: when you write in if you listen on one of 1783 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,840 Speaker 1: our affiliate stations, if you don't mind, please do right in. 1784 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,519 Speaker 1: You know, if you listen on you know WHOA Whoa 1785 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,880 Speaker 1: and Fort Wayne, Indiana, or KLBJ in Austin, or Freedom 1786 01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 1: ninety three seven in Denver, or or our wonderful new 1787 01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 1: affiliate in uh San Diego or our affiliate up in 1788 01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,960 Speaker 1: you name it. I mean, wherever we are and you're listening, um, 1789 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,560 Speaker 1: please please do uh you know WCBM Baltimore. Kind I 1790 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,600 Speaker 1: give Baltimore shout out. We do by the way, I 1791 01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 1: want to say thank you to all the people who 1792 01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 1: listen on WCBM Baltimore, because we've been fantastic with the 1793 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,360 Speaker 1: numbers there. A lot of you are still listening, a 1794 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 1: lot of you are tuning in, and it means a lot. 1795 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,080 Speaker 1: That's a top fifty market for us, and I just 1796 01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,800 Speaker 1: we Mark and I extend you our thanks for making 1797 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,559 Speaker 1: sure that we are resonating with the with the great 1798 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,360 Speaker 1: people of Baltimore and the surrounding area. So yeah, please 1799 01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 1: do let us know what station you listen on. If 1800 01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 1: you listen on a state, that's a helpful thing for us. 1801 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Buck readings from Minnesota yesterday in roll Call, you 1802 01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,479 Speaker 1: question the idea of people voluntarily not working affecting more 1803 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:14,519 Speaker 1: than the restaurant industry, did I I can tell you 1804 01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 1: that I don't remember doing that. I can tell you 1805 01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 1: that my immediate neighbors are two contractors and a husband 1806 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,880 Speaker 1: wife daughter team who run an eye care clinic. The 1807 01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,479 Speaker 1: contractors have projects scheduled and our work restrictions are now lifted, 1808 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,599 Speaker 1: but their workers make more by claiming unemployment. The eye 1809 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 1: care people have complained of their employees getting coached by 1810 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,559 Speaker 1: liberal employees on how to make the most of the 1811 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,200 Speaker 1: benefit system, and it's hanging the clinic out to dry. 1812 01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,080 Speaker 1: One of their employees told them to take Pennsylvania Governor 1813 01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,040 Speaker 1: Tom Wolfe's advice and just pay your employees more if 1814 01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,200 Speaker 1: management wants them to come back to work. When Minnesota's 1815 01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:48,640 Speaker 1: are being that rude to each other, you know, things 1816 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,880 Speaker 1: are getting weird out there. Yeah, Andrew, thank you for 1817 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,240 Speaker 1: the heads up on this. Makes sense to me that 1818 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,559 Speaker 1: there will be other businesses too, because the paycheck protection 1819 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,040 Speaker 1: program is not just for restaurants, So there must be 1820 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 1: other businesses where the financial incentive is now stronger to 1821 01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,920 Speaker 1: stay at home than it is to work, and that's 1822 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,800 Speaker 1: clearly counterproductive for those of us who want to get 1823 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:13,000 Speaker 1: the economy up and running again. So thank you for 1824 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 1: bringing me that, you know, that sense of what's going 1825 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 1: on Minnesota. It's true, Minnesotas are so nice. There's such 1826 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 1: nice people. Minnesotas are so nice. They're a bunch of 1827 01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,160 Speaker 1: I wonder, what have they ever done a study of 1828 01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,400 Speaker 1: what the how would you engage this? But I'm curious 1829 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,439 Speaker 1: what the nicest state is like. If I ask you, 1830 01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,680 Speaker 1: producer Mark, what state is the friend When I say 1831 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:33,080 Speaker 1: the nicest, the friendliest, Like strangers are the friendliest to 1832 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 1: you in what state? What would you say? It's definitely 1833 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 1: not New York. In New Jersey we know that. I mean, 1834 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,639 Speaker 1: I will say about New Yorkers, they are kind to 1835 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,800 Speaker 1: each other sometimes, like when we come together. I was 1836 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 1: going to say, we come through for each other when 1837 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:51,720 Speaker 1: it counts, right, Like New Yorkers, Well, we do our thing, 1838 01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 1: we do our thing, but you know, we'll see something 1839 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,639 Speaker 1: wrong going down, or we'll see somebody who's in need, 1840 01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,760 Speaker 1: and New Yorkers will go to the mat for each 1841 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: other when it counts, but we're not like, oh, hey, 1842 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,000 Speaker 1: how's your day? Oh my days for you though, That's 1843 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 1: that's not our way. So where do you find And 1844 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:09,839 Speaker 1: by the way, I think that's in a stude observation 1845 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:11,400 Speaker 1: you have and I totally agree with you about that 1846 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,559 Speaker 1: that we you know, New Yorkers will surprise people by 1847 01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,040 Speaker 1: what they're willing. I mean, I can't tell you how 1848 01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,120 Speaker 1: many times I've seen stuff go on in this city 1849 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,280 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, that's that's how, that's how we 1850 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,000 Speaker 1: do it here, like when someone is in an accent 1851 01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:23,960 Speaker 1: or something. Now, you could say this is true everywhere, 1852 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,280 Speaker 1: but New Yorkers really go to extreme lengths. I can't 1853 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,799 Speaker 1: tell you how many people I've seen help mothers carry 1854 01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:37,320 Speaker 1: very heavy strollers down narrow, slippery subway stairs, which sounds 1855 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,240 Speaker 1: like it's not a big deal, But let me tell 1856 01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:44,599 Speaker 1: you something, as somebody who has humble brag, carried a 1857 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 1: few strollers for strangers with the kid in the stroller 1858 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,160 Speaker 1: because there's a baby. So you've got someone else's baby 1859 01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,720 Speaker 1: that you're kind of now responsible for the safety of. 1860 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 1: You're trying not to fall down the stairs and crack 1861 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,840 Speaker 1: your skull open, and you're hoping you don't throw your 1862 01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,599 Speaker 1: back out, you know what I mean. Yeah, I've seen 1863 01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 1: that happen as well. I don't really help because I 1864 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,719 Speaker 1: would fall with the stroller, so that caused two problems. 1865 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,439 Speaker 1: But there is a website called Big seven Travel and 1866 01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,439 Speaker 1: it's as Minnesota as the friendliest state, followed by Tennessee. 1867 01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, people would usually think it's Minnesota. 1868 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:18,240 Speaker 1: Would you like to know where New York is? Everyone's 1869 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:24,479 Speaker 1: real friendly. Where's New York? Yeah? People were very when 1870 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,680 Speaker 1: I was in Nashville, people were very nice in Tennessee. 1871 01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 1: It is true people are friendlier in the South. I 1872 01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:30,960 Speaker 1: mean when I go down, when I go down to 1873 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,280 Speaker 1: the Carolinas or to Georgia, everyone's so nice. Texas people 1874 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,120 Speaker 1: are like, hey, how you doing it. I'm like, you 1875 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,120 Speaker 1: actually cared, don't you. You're like, hey, I hope the 1876 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,599 Speaker 1: stranger is having a good day. I think why New 1877 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:45,679 Speaker 1: York gets a bad rap. If you see a tourist, 1878 01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,040 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you're guilty of as I am. If 1879 01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 1: they stop in the middle of a sidewalk to take 1880 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,240 Speaker 1: a picture or something stupid, you shove them a little. 1881 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,479 Speaker 1: We have rules here, yeah, and you gotta know the rule. 1882 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 1: The rules are you walk fast, or you get out 1883 01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,559 Speaker 1: of the way. You don't take too much time when 1884 01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,479 Speaker 1: you're ordered food because you look at the menu before 1885 01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 1: you get to the front of the line. You know, 1886 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:04,960 Speaker 1: we have rules. That's the thing, you know. Where we're 1887 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,880 Speaker 1: on the New Yorkers are all a time crunch, so 1888 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,200 Speaker 1: it seems like we're rude when really we're just trying 1889 01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,519 Speaker 1: to move fast, which sometimes makes us rude. Yeah, and 1890 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,120 Speaker 1: when chorus getting our way, we don't like it. I 1891 01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 1: also feel like there's a there's a there's a sort 1892 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:20,160 Speaker 1: of understood language, like sometimes if someone accelerates toward you 1893 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,200 Speaker 1: in New York and you're in the crosswalk. This is 1894 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,519 Speaker 1: when life was normal and there were cars driving around. 1895 01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, you flip it, you know, you flip them 1896 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 1: the bird and they honk at you, and it's like yeah, 1897 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:31,680 Speaker 1: and you're not even really mad at them. But that's 1898 01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,000 Speaker 1: just the way we communicate here. Oh. I used to 1899 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,640 Speaker 1: get into the right by our old building before we 1900 01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,640 Speaker 1: move downtown. There was like a stop sign in the 1901 01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,160 Speaker 1: middle of the street for pedestrians to go by. So 1902 01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:45,840 Speaker 1: many taxis wouldn't stop and almost hit me. I swear 1903 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,719 Speaker 1: I almost came to blows with a couple of taxi drivers. 1904 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,519 Speaker 1: So that's yeah. But this is this is like, you know, 1905 01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:52,280 Speaker 1: you throw them the one finger salute, they honk at you, 1906 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,280 Speaker 1: You go about your married day, and you know, you 1907 01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:56,760 Speaker 1: kind of get a little stress out. I don't know, 1908 01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 1: it's just it's just the way it is here. It's 1909 01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of a it's called a New York alone. Yeah, 1910 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:02,960 Speaker 1: that's how we do it. It's different in other places. 1911 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:07,640 Speaker 1: In Minnesota, you know what they call a hello Hello, 1912 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,360 Speaker 1: that's right, not anymore, but they used to hug you. 1913 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,839 Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom Hut. This is the buck Sexton 1914 01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:24,679 Speaker 1: Show podcast are more more roll Call here, Willis writes 1915 01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,640 Speaker 1: in good Call on the Waco series. Just started it 1916 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,559 Speaker 1: last night. Keep the suggestions coming, all right, man, Willis. 1917 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,439 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm glad you enjoy the Waco series. 1918 01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,200 Speaker 1: I think it's excellent. My suggestions for you right now 1919 01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:37,680 Speaker 1: for things to watch that are out there, watch The 1920 01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:39,920 Speaker 1: Michael And this one's from producer Mark, The Last Dance, 1921 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:44,840 Speaker 1: The Michael Jordan documentary ESPN fantastic, The Last Kingdom season four. 1922 01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,040 Speaker 1: If you have seen the other seasons, you need to 1923 01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,759 Speaker 1: watch this one. If you haven't seen The Last Kingdom 1924 01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,559 Speaker 1: on Netflix, highly recommend it. It's like Vikings, but I 1925 01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,760 Speaker 1: think even a little better than the show Vikings. So 1926 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,599 Speaker 1: The Last Kingdom Waco, as I've mentioned to you, is 1927 01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:02,240 Speaker 1: just it's ripping. It's so well done, and it's an 1928 01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:04,800 Speaker 1: excellent producer. Mark gave us the Last Dance. Do you 1929 01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,040 Speaker 1: have another break, producer, Mark, other than the Creek that 1930 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 1: we the Creek that shall not be named because we 1931 01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,639 Speaker 1: can't say it on air. Yes, so I'll say Silicon Valley. 1932 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm only three seasons in, but I love it so far. 1933 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,559 Speaker 1: Very good show. I knew that would one one would 1934 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 1: be right up your alley. I mean, I think Silicon 1935 01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 1: Valley's excellent. So you got a bunch of recks there. 1936 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,759 Speaker 1: Oh and if you want something to watch with the misses, 1937 01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 1: The Crown is a show that the dudes and the 1938 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,439 Speaker 1: ladies can watch together and I think equally enjoy. It's 1939 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 1: a very good show for what a day. A little 1940 01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,960 Speaker 1: a little understated, a little bit. It can be a 1941 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:37,280 Speaker 1: little slow, but it's the acting and the writing is excellent. 1942 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:42,000 Speaker 1: The costuming and sets our cinematic quality. You'll you'll see 1943 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:43,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. And you watch it with the wife, 1944 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,200 Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, look at he's kind of a 1945 01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:49,640 Speaker 1: sensitive sophistic He's a sophisticated fellow, isn't He likes to 1946 01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:54,120 Speaker 1: watch the crowd and drink tea, eat crumpets. All right, 1947 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,840 Speaker 1: John Buck. I'm a political science major. Just finished a 1948 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,920 Speaker 1: class called research and Writing and poly saw. We learned 1949 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot about polling and how to account for influences 1950 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,400 Speaker 1: in a sample group. That got me thinking about the 1951 01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:09,080 Speaker 1: odds of liberal COVID patients who are prescribed hydroxy chloroquin 1952 01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,719 Speaker 1: and not taking it. Since the drug has been politicized, However, 1953 01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,320 Speaker 1: I doubt that if that were happening, it would be 1954 01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:19,639 Speaker 1: a high enough number of patients to impact the results. 1955 01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:24,120 Speaker 1: What do you think, John, I don't think that anybody 1956 01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,920 Speaker 1: who is advised by their doctor when their life is 1957 01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:28,879 Speaker 1: really on the line to take a drug like hydroxy 1958 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,519 Speaker 1: chloroquin would say no because of the politics. But then again, 1959 01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,519 Speaker 1: people are nuts, so I can't I don't have a 1960 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: good read on this. I'm not seeing the matrix on 1961 01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:39,479 Speaker 1: this one. I don't have a good read on this one. 1962 01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:45,360 Speaker 1: As for hydroxy chloroquin, so far, the belief has really 1963 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,920 Speaker 1: switched now based on what doctors have seen. This is 1964 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:49,880 Speaker 1: not a belief that comes out of nowhere that it 1965 01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:53,400 Speaker 1: might be best as a either early intervention to prevent 1966 01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,960 Speaker 1: the virus from replicating or as a just a straight 1967 01:46:56,040 --> 01:47:00,280 Speaker 1: up prophylactic against virus, against the virus, establishing and effect. 1968 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:04,639 Speaker 1: William Greetings, bucking Mark. It seems clear that the only 1969 01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,759 Speaker 1: metrics the Democrat of the media, that the only metric 1970 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to open the country is after the election, 1971 01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,160 Speaker 1: or at least to wait until they think they have 1972 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:17,400 Speaker 1: sunken Trump's chances or sunk Trump's chances they want the 1973 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,479 Speaker 1: economic recovery to come under their guidance so they can 1974 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:28,160 Speaker 1: claim credit for saving the country. Open the country, shields high. Yeah, 1975 01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,920 Speaker 1: so you're correct about a lot of a lot of 1976 01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,360 Speaker 1: politics at play here and the slow nature of reopening 1977 01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 1: the country. That has to do with those politics for 1978 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,800 Speaker 1: the left. So we'll have to see how this continues. 1979 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,800 Speaker 1: This fight is ongoing, and we will need our our 1980 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,760 Speaker 1: shields high because this is not This is gonna get ugly. 1981 01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna get very ugly. I'm already seeing some guy 1982 01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,400 Speaker 1: got arrested in North Carolina. This just broke today because 1983 01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 1: he opened his tattoo parlor. Get ready for more of that, 1984 01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:55,120 Speaker 1: more non compliance, it's gonna happen. Mark writes a lot 1985 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,840 Speaker 1: of Mark's write again. Producer Mark reboard Last Night Buck 1986 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:03,960 Speaker 1: producer Mark Trader sells crumpets same section as English muffins. Okay, 1987 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,920 Speaker 1: good to know, but are they gluten free? That's gonna 1988 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,479 Speaker 1: be the show for today. Everybody back tomorrow, same time 1989 01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,960 Speaker 1: and place shields high.