WEBVTT - 86: Baby Yoda Needs To Fly

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Nightcall, a production of My Heart Radio. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one nine am on the Forest Moon of End, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening tonight call, Hello everybody, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Nightcall podcast for Strange Days and lonely nights. I'm Molly

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<v Speaker 1>Lambert and with me as always are Tess Lynch and

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<v Speaker 1>Emily Orshda. I had to train Molly phonetically to say

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<v Speaker 1>the Forest Moon of Endor. Yeah, no, killed it, killed

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<v Speaker 1>it on the first day. Thanks guys. It's always been

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<v Speaker 1>bad at maps. That's why you don't watch Game of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I don't want it like a fictional maps. They're

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<v Speaker 1>actually maddeningly few maps in the Star Wars universe. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually makes it really easy for them to bullshit and

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<v Speaker 1>add new places all the time. Tonight, Tonight, tonight, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about Well, first we'll talk about we

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<v Speaker 1>did last night. Yeah, we had a live show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just me and Emily. Why my voice might be

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a little rough right now. We led the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>in Too Many Chance. Yes, yeah, it was great. We

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<v Speaker 1>had our second annual nights Giving party at gold Diggers.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a bunch of fun every time we've done

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<v Speaker 1>d day nights at gold Diggers if you are in

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<v Speaker 1>the area. I was just proud we got to two

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<v Speaker 1>of something that's a big deal, really great about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Emily couldn't make it last year, Tess couldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it this year, So by the law of threes, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to you have to drop out some reason next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was really fun. Our special guest was Amy Man.

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<v Speaker 1>She shared a ghost story with us, which was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I think the thing that I like

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<v Speaker 1>about our events and not to like plug our next

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<v Speaker 1>event TVD, but that we tend to get like fun

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<v Speaker 1>people on. But I like that we don't say who

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<v Speaker 1>it is ahead of time. I mean, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>because then it's just like it kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a very special little fireside chat with whoever happens to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very intimate and we never prepare them particularly so

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<v Speaker 1>they feel very vulnerable and we don't record it, so

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be there, yeah for the happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she told some great, great g story. We should have

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<v Speaker 1>her on the pod for real something. She was really funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you to Amy. Yeah, thank you Amy, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to everybody who came out and ate the

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<v Speaker 1>pumpkin pies and listen to me and Emily play music.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to sound like too much of a mom, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of lame that people didn't finish

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<v Speaker 1>the pies. And next time, I think people need to

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<v Speaker 1>try harder to eat us on the plate and finish

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<v Speaker 1>your pie. I was actually kind of shocked. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these were these are Traitor Joe's pumpkin pies, which are

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<v Speaker 1>notably really amazing, pretty good and like shelf Stable, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that people are worried that we might like

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<v Speaker 1>dose them or something? Talked about that during I knew, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well it doesn't help. But like whenever we have a pie,

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<v Speaker 1>Molly scratches a pentagram and to the top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like Christine pie. I want to credit that

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<v Speaker 1>idea to Amy Nicholson, who I went to a Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>party hosted by her and her boyfriend Adam where there

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<v Speaker 1>was a pentagram on a pizza drawn in Sri racha

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<v Speaker 1>nice and that was what I was like, Oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>can drop pagrams on anything, any round food any wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>that not taste great? To put saracha gay It's spicy

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<v Speaker 1>and has garlic in it. It's not. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it pairs. I like hot sauce on a pizza, I

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<v Speaker 1>like a different kind of hot sauce on a pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that just doesn't. I don't think it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's okay. I'd still eat it anyway, because I

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<v Speaker 1>do my job and eat my food. The food that's

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<v Speaker 1>presented to you. What you get, you don't get upset. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't have you guys watched The Mandalorian yet, know,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to talk about But we have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Baby Yoda. Baby Yoda has taken this nation

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<v Speaker 1>by storm, and I am happy to be caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in it. I was saying that, like, what I love

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<v Speaker 1>about this is like the Marvel versus you know, Scorsese film,

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<v Speaker 1>Nerd discourse had reached this fever pitch and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was like Verner Hertzog came in with the Lake postmodernist

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<v Speaker 1>like sweet Baby Yoda. Yeah. I mean, if the show

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<v Speaker 1>was actually just Verner Hertzog and Baby Yoda, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be I think, unanimously critically adored. It's actually not that

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<v Speaker 1>great of a show so far, there are only two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes out, but I think that the degree to which

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<v Speaker 1>it's like really leaned into feat your stuff and cute

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<v Speaker 1>Baby Yoda. Also, just between this, I was, I tweeted this,

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<v Speaker 1>but like between this and Detective Pikachu this year, cute

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<v Speaker 1>tech like c g I. Cute Tech has gotten so

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<v Speaker 1>good that I don't know where we go from here, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you make a thing that's cuter than them? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was funny because it's like, I obviously

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about Star Wars lore, but just the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody was like criticizing Disney for being the Borg

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was like, look, it's Yoda, but we

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<v Speaker 1>made it small and everybody was like, ah, oh, look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. It's small. It's just wild to me that,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's their first ever Star Wars TV series, like

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<v Speaker 1>counting the Christmas Special, that's not a series. I mean, well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the series does actually make the Christmas Special cannon because

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<v Speaker 1>they mentioned Life Day in the first episode, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday that the Cookies are celebrating in the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>special um where they have a hologram of difference star ship. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like something I enjoy. What's this? You guys

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<v Speaker 1>haven't watched the Star Wars Christmas specials like famous among

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars nerds for being a thing they like pretended

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen because it's just the seventies variety show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not good Arthur in it. It is, yes, it is. No.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what happens to every single person who hears

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<v Speaker 1>about the Star Wars Christmas special. They're like Jefferson Starship

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<v Speaker 1>like a story that's just Wookie is like b Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>shows up. Uh, sounds great, sounds so fun and silly

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<v Speaker 1>and like a very like great seventies time capsule. It

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<v Speaker 1>is mostly unwatchable. Like it is, it is maddening to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you seen Star Wars? Well, that brings me

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<v Speaker 1>to my favorite Star Wars movie, which I found out

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<v Speaker 1>are not on Disney Plus yet. Emily and I were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about wanting to do an episode about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we can until Disney Plus makes them available.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ewalk Adventure, yeah, man, I haven't seen it in

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<v Speaker 1>so long. Freaked me out so much as it freaked

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<v Speaker 1>me out so much as a kid, and therefore it

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<v Speaker 1>was the best. Um Well, I feel like Mandalorian is

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<v Speaker 1>a encouraging sign that Disney is willing to embrace the dorky,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird side of Star Wars. It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>Walk Adventures TV movies. Yes they're TV, or no, they're

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<v Speaker 1>straight to video. That's what they were. They're straight to video.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like the fact that I mean, the Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 1>is basically so far just lone Wolf and Cub but

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<v Speaker 1>with baby Yoda like lone Wolf and Baby Yoda. Um

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<v Speaker 1>does Baby Yoda talk like Yoda? Or is it too

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<v Speaker 1>too baby baby doing? All it does is go, It

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<v Speaker 1>makes actual baby noises, it has like human baby noises.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's like spoilers. It uses the force in

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<v Speaker 1>the last episode and it puts out its little hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about like Yoda is so much cuter

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<v Speaker 1>than ET. Yes, you know if ET looked like Yoda,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have such a problem with each would with

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<v Speaker 1>e T like flesh colored, it looks like a ball sack.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm gonna stand up for ET here

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<v Speaker 1>and just say that on different planets we shouldn't project

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<v Speaker 1>our beauty standards onto extraterrestrials. It's unfair. Also, there's do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that e T on his home planet if

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<v Speaker 1>there's just different barometric pressure on it and maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>not wrinkly on his planet, like he becomes more like full,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got for his collagen is restored. What would he

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<v Speaker 1>look what would a kind of well hydrated et because

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was sick. That's the other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>he was very sick on Earth, you know, very sick.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think so tried out dehydrate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever was water on his planet he was. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what if it's the same species is Yoda, because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what Yoda is. We were just saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knows what Yoda is. Yoda is Yoda's species according

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<v Speaker 1>to Wikipedia. I don't think Yoda as an adult is

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<v Speaker 1>very attractive, but I do. I mean, obviously I love

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<v Speaker 1>baby Yoda, but I wouldn't say, like, you know, Yoda

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<v Speaker 1>is not winning any beauty pageants either. It's also confusing

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<v Speaker 1>to me because I feel like they tried to market

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<v Speaker 1>the porks is like the cute return to cute Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars creatures, and like it didn't catch on in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way. All they had to do was make it

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<v Speaker 1>a character that already exists in the universe, and everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's baby Yoda, but his baby I've seen some pork backpacks.

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<v Speaker 1>I think porks have found their way into I think

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is that they're called porks porties of the

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<v Speaker 1>new walks. People. People who love porks love them the most.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, I'm gonna be on this podcast talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Return of the Jedi and and and vehemently defending

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<v Speaker 1>the e walks. So, um, yeah, we're very pro e

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<v Speaker 1>walk on this PODCT. Yeah. I mean, I'm I consider

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<v Speaker 1>myself a serious Star Wars fan or whatever, but like

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<v Speaker 1>that includes e walks. That's not like oh, but except

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<v Speaker 1>the e walks. Like no, that is why Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>is good, because there's a planet full of teddy bears.

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<v Speaker 1>That is why Disney Plus Night All commands you. We

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<v Speaker 1>compel you, compel you, The power compels you, compels you

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<v Speaker 1>to put the Ewok Adventure movie on Disney Plus for

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<v Speaker 1>old millennials, for whom that is the touchstone of Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>Just bring back more like non market tested children's fair

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<v Speaker 1>that makes makes kids cry. Have you seen it, Tess Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've always been really uninterested in Star Wars, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've kept it a secret except on podcasts that we

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<v Speaker 1>do were every so often I tell you, guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you refuse to let it sink. As a person

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't like Star Wars, I feel like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>if you like other eighties dark fantasy, puppet heavy movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know, I don't actually like love puppet heavy

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<v Speaker 1>movies in general, but I do make some exceptions, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why we're going to force you to watch Labyrinth. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Labyrinth Puppet Puppet, December Puppet December Fantasy puppet Eighties, like

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<v Speaker 1>pre c g I I've like dabbled in some star

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<v Speaker 1>I know that my time is coming for a full

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive into Star Wars because my kids are older

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<v Speaker 1>now and are more kind of like into that book.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to the Star Wars land. Emily

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to the Star Wars bar in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>so jealous of this. It was the greatest Hollywood experience

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<v Speaker 1>because we were the only people in it and our

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<v Speaker 1>bartender was Harley Quinn. It's a very jumbled It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the exterior it is a Star Wars bar,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called scumm and Villany Cantina, But inside and on

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<v Speaker 1>the menu it is just like a jumbled It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a comic compar it's the job of the French. But

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<v Speaker 1>then there's like a drink called Karis, Like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>if thrown stuff. They've got marvel stec. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>fandom theme. But it was like but we were the

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<v Speaker 1>only people, and which made it really interesting. And Harley

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn was like, what do you want, honey. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>she would have done it an impression. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>wearing like a full on great Harley. It was impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope she gets really good tips too. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was also great because it felt like what you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the Star Wars Cantina would really be like. Because

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<v Speaker 1>people were like, is that the one in Disneyland and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no, it's the one on Hollywood Boulevard.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is like a meeting point between the worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it's like tourists and weird nerds like us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break real quick and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back in just a moment. Welcome back tonight. Call guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the rollout of the cybertruck? Oh? It

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<v Speaker 1>was so funny. I had to piece it together because

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw everybody tweeting pictures of it and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what was this a movie? Like, what's what

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<v Speaker 1>is this? The movie is robocon Yeah, no serious. The car,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a car that Elon Musk and Tesla unveil

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<v Speaker 1>old at the It's like a pickup truck. It's supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>a pickup truck, but it looks like if RoboCop was

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<v Speaker 1>a car. Yes, yeah, Tess, would you like to give

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<v Speaker 1>us the cliff notes? Yes? So the Guardian this is

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<v Speaker 1>from the Guardian. Um they quote Musk is saying we

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<v Speaker 1>created an exo skeleton. He said, to rapturous whoops from

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<v Speaker 1>those attending the l A line. It is literally bulletproof

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<v Speaker 1>to a nine millimeter handgun. France von Holshausen, Tesla's chief designer,

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<v Speaker 1>asked Musk if he could lob a metal ball at

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<v Speaker 1>the window of the vehicle. Really, said Musk. The window smashed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my fucking god, said Musk. Maybe that was a

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<v Speaker 1>little hard, showing confidence in the vehicle. Von Holtthhausen then

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<v Speaker 1>suggested he should love it at a second window. Try

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<v Speaker 1>that one, really, asked Musk, moments before the rear window

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<v Speaker 1>was also smashed. It didn't go through, though, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>plus side. A stunned Musk said, guys, yike, guys, yikes. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite reaction to this was from Max Read. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is also before I knew it was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just saw the picture of this. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a low rez computer generated car because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a polygon um and it has the two

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<v Speaker 1>like smashed windows in it. And he said, not for nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>but the smashed windows actually complete the whole driving my

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<v Speaker 1>luxury armored command unit through the violent slumps to Elysium

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<v Speaker 1>transfer station for my off world vacation. Yum, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the vibe. That's the vibe. What's really weird is to

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<v Speaker 1>present this car and like seemingly Musk if he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>plan to have that happen, It's like, what did he

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<v Speaker 1>plan to demonstrate? So it just seems like such a

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<v Speaker 1>stupid error, you know. I mean, it's also stupid to

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<v Speaker 1>strow a bunch of car. Thing is so dumb. The

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<v Speaker 1>font that they put Cybertruck in was like just the

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<v Speaker 1>funniest bad funt. The whole thing was like self parodic

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<v Speaker 1>to the extreme. And then on Jack Am Today Kate

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<v Speaker 1>and Kate was saying that it was all like Magic's

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest Secrets revealed Yes it was the fib She made

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<v Speaker 1>a video where she cut it together with magic space,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's like the masked magician, right, it's like Piro

0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And like even the fans and the audience were like,

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<v Speaker 1>huh yeah, I mean I really I like electric cars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Tesla is just so it's hard, guys. It sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks, I have whatever. I've made this argument many

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<v Speaker 1>many times. I like, I'm not as mad at a

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla on the road as I am at any other

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<v Speaker 1>luxury car. And I'm not against electric car being like

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<v Speaker 1>a status symbol for people who have money. Like sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Like status symbols are gross. It's part of the culture

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<v Speaker 1>that we live in. But if it's for an electric car, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>Like here's what I'm going to say, those people are

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<v Speaker 1>the worst drivers. Well, that is also true is that

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<v Speaker 1>they have replaced the other luxury car drivers as the

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<v Speaker 1>worst drivers. Tesla drivers do tend to be bad drivers,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are also so many of them that it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to even say. But it comes with like this

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<v Speaker 1>narcissistic self confidence that's possible you rule the road. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea of a leaf Nissan sponsor night cough

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<v Speaker 1>Nissan sponsor. I have a hybrid that I really like,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's ten years old and it's starting to be creaky.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nissan give us the electric vehicles. Yeah, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>pro electric vehicle, but also like it shouldn't be for

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<v Speaker 1>rich people. Wasn't that the whole thing that it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like a cheap model of the Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>eventually and then it didn't really ever happen. It's cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's different tiers, but none of them are affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>But also for the no no, the Tesla UM yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are other electric cars. It's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you need that name brand to be your thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was looking at this because I

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about stocks, but I was like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the whole Tesla or the Tesla. What's it

0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.520
<v Speaker 1>called cyber cyber truck. Cyber truck cyber the tongue doesn't

0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.720
<v Speaker 1>it on? Um Grimes came up with that name. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that feels like the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you could watch in real time, like watch stock,

0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>just like it like bumps down and then the second

0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.920
<v Speaker 1>baseball is loved at a rock or whatever, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just see a little bit of action, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>also know how to I don't know anything about stocks,

0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.959
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to close this tabu. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get I mean they're saying it

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<v Speaker 1>like like Max, You're just saying it looks like you

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<v Speaker 1>can see the graffiti sprayed on it in the mad

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<v Speaker 1>Max world, right. Yeah. The thing is that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know in what form like somebody who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to actually make innovations that lead us to greener transportation

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<v Speaker 1>and transit, Like what form that comes in right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it has to be public. I mean that that

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea like in what like in our

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<v Speaker 1>current reality, how that happens. Because it's just like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't just be at the whims insane billions. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. It's just like it's like, why

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<v Speaker 1>is this only happening in this private Why is the bulletproof?

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<v Speaker 1>Like who needs that? It's just to be really cool? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>also because this truck is hard. Jenny Faberman was saying

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<v Speaker 1>on the Twitter that it's like the car for the

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<v Speaker 1>creepy tech bros who are like it's time to start

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<v Speaker 1>carrying guns in San Francisco, you know, protect ourselves and

0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Dotham like it's a fortified car for like the water Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's super creepy. Like my cousin is um she

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<v Speaker 1>just started go fund me for a company that would

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<v Speaker 1>take if you have like a non hybrid, non electric vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>you give it to them and they give you an

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<v Speaker 1>electric vehicle, like an inexpensive electric vehicle. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds great, But then I also was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do they do with the car that they like? They

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<v Speaker 1>then you just have like this giant piece of waste.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe the thing is I think that there are

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<v Speaker 1>companies that are retrofitting, like they take old cars and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like retrofit them to be electric. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want a car to look like? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>love eighties Mercedes. You like the boxing Mercedes boxing taking

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<v Speaker 1>out the like the hope, like none of us should

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<v Speaker 1>have cars, but if you have to have one, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have them. Though. I mean, so there's this car

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<v Speaker 1>that parks um like near my house and it has

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<v Speaker 1>a vanity. I think I may have talked to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys about this car. It's its name is Surfing Mountain

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<v Speaker 1>because it's license plate is Surfing Mountain and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sea foam green Bronco. And if there were a way

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<v Speaker 1>to make that an electric car, that might be my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also really liked the eighties Volvo station. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys all like a box frame. I kind of take

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<v Speaker 1>boxy car, and I just like the new Like the

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<v Speaker 1>new Toyota camera, for instance, looks like a matchbox car.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's too streamlined and it looks kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>just plastic e to me. So I like fins really.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I know that you You do have like

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<v Speaker 1>a car fetish on your listagrams time, like a sixties

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>seventies carre. I just don't feel like they're that practical.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why this is in the world where we can

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<v Speaker 1>have any car, Okay, because the Bronco, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>could dry if that were not like if it were

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<v Speaker 1>a green Bronco, a c foam green Bronco, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>could live my life with that car. I'd have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun in that car. It looks so cute

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<v Speaker 1>in that car. I have a question for you, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could have that car like your dream sixties like

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<v Speaker 1>flashy car with fins and it had an electric engine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a Tesla engine. Would you take that car?

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<v Speaker 1>Good question? No? Really otherwise not at all, not at

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<v Speaker 1>all identifiable as a no, because it would catch on fire.

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Molly really distrusted that. I really distrusted the products from

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<v Speaker 1>that company. And also I had a friend who bought

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<v Speaker 1>a really great car, my friend John, who fend too,

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<v Speaker 1>but an amazing throwback car when we first moved to

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<v Speaker 1>l a and it became such a pain in the

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<v Speaker 1>ask for him, so that I was like, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of your fantasy car. Oh, you mean like a

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<v Speaker 1>like an old car, Yeah, like a low rider. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, no, I couldn't drive it anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter had an eighties Mercedes that was great, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was diesel and that sucked. And then eventually it was

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<v Speaker 1>so expensive to maintain that it was like and you

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<v Speaker 1>never got it transferred to the French fry oil. He tried.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>you bringing in there like we could do it if

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<v Speaker 1>you did this, this, this, this, and he was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like I could be a tiny car person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm very disappointed that Toyota is not adhering to

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<v Speaker 1>the California guidelines and they're going to the federal guidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mission guidelines. I was like shocking to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>look at us talking about cars for so long. Car

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<v Speaker 1>Talk is one of the biggest podcast inspiration. I love

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<v Speaker 1>car talk. I love car talk. Everybody just secretly wishes

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that they hosted car talk. Yeah, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys know a trade and they get to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it on a radio shop. It's very one and

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they have a good rapport like all podcasts. Shit, um, Molly,

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<v Speaker 1>you speaking of driving around l A. You drove around

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<v Speaker 1>and ended up going up Beechwood to a little place

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<v Speaker 1>called the Minimus pronounce it crow Tona Toona, And then

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<v Speaker 1>Emily said she had also just driven pastor it's like

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<v Speaker 1>up from one oh one, and that is where I

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<v Speaker 1>was going driving around. Yeah. It was a former Theosophist

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<v Speaker 1>retreat in what the early like the twenties, I think

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<v Speaker 1>earlier than that. Yeah, yeah, um, and now it's an

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<v Speaker 1>apartment complex, but I guess they have rehabbed it and

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<v Speaker 1>there are some like I don't I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much of the original structure or like

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<v Speaker 1>interiors are the same. So yeah, it was built on

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<v Speaker 1>I think ten acres of the former Charles Hastings ranch

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<v Speaker 1>up there, and it was this this guy who got

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<v Speaker 1>really into theosophy. It was him and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>his like kind of wealthy like you know, dreamy wealthy people,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wanted it to be the next Garden of

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<v Speaker 1>Eden where people could get into like kind of diet,

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<v Speaker 1>occult stuff and meditation. So um. They hired a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of really famous architects and they built this like it

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<v Speaker 1>had the Katona in which is now an apartment building,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a bunch of meeting halls and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like meditation spaces and I think one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>um profiled in Architectural Digest. This couple was renting one

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<v Speaker 1>of the buildings that had been turned into an apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a studio apartment with a domed ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>with like a star cutout. Was so cool, very very impractical,

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<v Speaker 1>but very cool. Um, but it's super beautiful. They had

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<v Speaker 1>like a Koi pond, and I guess the Theosophus eventually

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<v Speaker 1>moved Kreatona to Ohi because Ohi is also like very

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<v Speaker 1>haunted and yeah, and the building there is also very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just in a very different style like Krytona Modernist building.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this building that has like two arms that

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>wrap around and like the buildings very neat like World's Fair. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a totally when like Moorish was everybody wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>which there are so many cool I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen not just in l A, but like like in

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<v Speaker 1>Portugal and stuff. They're like these revival like Moorish kind.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like fantageous of like what people imagine like

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<v Speaker 1>the East be like it's like problematic of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of these buildings are so incredible to those two

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<v Speaker 1>an I was going to say, it's very the architecture

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<v Speaker 1>is very rare. That person did design a World's Fair. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that was influential. The brand park was influential

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<v Speaker 1>on other people building like fake Moorish. It's very pretty. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a tip from Instagram account takes on Set,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a real turn Rob deals in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like amazing l A houses. Historic Houses sent me

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<v Speaker 1>some info about the Krytona comp lex, saying that that

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<v Speaker 1>property is just one of many that are all connected

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<v Speaker 1>in that area and that we're all originally part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Krytona because it was on ten Acas Settlement Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is now owned by Joanna knew so

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<v Speaker 1>many Andy Samberg. I knew that they lived in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the um and have you seen pictures of there

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>when they whenever they moved into their house, there were photos, pictures,

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>And now I know that it's like a former like esoteric,

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>an insane house, Like it's gorgeous, it's also like I

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine living there um. And then the the ones

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that are rented out. I guess a woman rents them

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>out now. And one was designed by Richard Neutra. I

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>wonder which one. But yeah, I mean I looked a

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit more into the history of Krytona and I

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 1>guess it was sort of an amalgam of world religions.

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And there was a guy named Krishna Murty who they

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be the leader of it, and he was like, no,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't have a leader. But I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>some times between theosophy and scientology. Oh really, at least

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>as like an inspiration for scientology, that makes sense. Yeah,

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they were all dabbling in that, all

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the all the folks and the Jack Parson circle. But

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>these guys did not drink or smoke, and most of

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>them were vegetarian and that was like and also you

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>could have your They did like a lot of aura readings,

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>but it was like only if you're a really experienced

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know what you're doing with that aura, but

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>we read it. Yeah, it was a lot of like

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>they would host these sort of open um like forums

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and stuff and and and lectures and everything about all

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 1>their or reading other other supernatural studies. I suppose, um,

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of that esoteric stuff like right between

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like silver Lake and beech Wood, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>also I don't know what it's like a similar kind

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of like religion ish thing that's um, I can't remember

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the name of it, but it is on loose feel

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>as both of our like kind of self realization, the

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 1>self realization fellowship. There's a lot of those things going

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>on in that area. Yeah, as always, LA continues to

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>be a fertile ground for experimental religion. I still want

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>to go to the Four Square Heritage Museum. Yeah, let's go.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I also then went to the Philosophical Research Society, not

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like purposely, I just like drove past it and was like, oh,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>another weird place. I should check it out. I've never

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 1>been in. Um. I didn't know that it was related

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to other theosophy stuff. But it's also manly. P Hall

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>founded it. Who's another weird person. We should do more

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>pods about. That's a funny name. It's a super funny name.

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>And then um, like it was he was like like

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>how to win friends and influence people kind of like

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, self improvement, weird esoteric new ag stuff. Um,

0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>but apparently Reagan was really into him him. Really, huh

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>did he he predated Reagan though he was, Yeah, but

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>teaching like Reagan read all his teachings and was very

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>influenced by them. Interesting. Well, if you have a favorite

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>hidden experimental religion or esoteric facility in your town, let

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>us know about it. Give us a night call at

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<v Speaker 1>one for six night or a night email at Night

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<v Speaker 1>Call podcast at gmail dot com. We're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>another break. We'll be right back to talk about this

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>week's movie. Welcome back to night Call. Um. I made

0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Test and Emily consume another really long thing after a

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>gigantic book. I said, hey, please watch a four hour movie.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>That movie is Warren Batties Reds three hours and fifteen

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>minutes long. Yeah, it's not four hours. It's three hours

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen minutes, but it feels like four. Look, you

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>can't tell anyone how long it is before you have

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>them watch it. I warned you it moves though. Having

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>just watched another three plus hour movie, I had a

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>very different experience watching this. Wait which other three hour movie?

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch The Irish Man? Oh right, Yeah, I

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>thought that was so long. I think I should be

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>illegal Irish. Um. Yeah, no, I I had never seen it.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even really know what it was about. I mean,

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was about like American communist, but I

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what time period. I assumed it was like

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>in the fifties. Um, but I did not know that

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it was World War One era. So I mean I

0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>thought it. I thought it moved Warren Baty direct. It

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was like his passion project for so many years, and um,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it was insanely expensive. I think it took like a

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>year to shoot. Yeah. They thought it was going to

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>take like sixteen weeks and took a year. Yeah. Um,

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know when you go to Russia, I thought

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I was going to take Yeah, they didn't shoot in

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Russia though I think they shot him Finland, I believe.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And so he produced, co wrote, and start in this movie.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>He was very passionate about it. Um test, how do

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you feel about Well? I don't I okay, I didn't like.

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really hate hate to hate it. But I

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>knew it was going to be difficult because I was

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>talking with my parents, for whom I think they would

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>be like Reds intended like very enthusiastic audience, you know,

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>because they're like lefties from you know, who lived in

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>New York and our theater nerds and like it. Just

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.719
<v Speaker 1>they love Diane Keith. Like everything lined up and I

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, we have to watch Reds for the podcast,

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and they were like the whole thing, and I was

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, that's we have to watch the

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>movie the movie rights and they were like, oh, you'll

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>never get through it, and they were right, but I

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>made it almost all the way through. But they were

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my god, it's like it is a

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>really long movie. I recommend breaking it up over two days.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't see how you possibly could, though, Like where

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>is the remission? There's an intermission? It just doesn't It's

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like you just want to At that point, you're like,

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I can push through. I watched the whole thing in

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>one city, and except for the last like fifteen minutes,

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what I did. But then I didn't come back

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I know what happens. I can

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>see the writing on the wall. You know, he doesn't

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>seem well he did. It made me realize that I like,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's very few and far between you see a

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>story that is like centrally a love story, like an

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>adult uh. And I'm not talking about like the the

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>erotic fillers and stuff that we watched where it's like

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a big, sweeping drama, but it's like mostly about

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>like people like who are in love with each other

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and trying to negotiate that. That feels actually kind of

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>anti created at this time right now. Um, And that

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>was sort of well, it's like he knew no one

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>would care about the movie, or he would have he

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>would have a Really it's hard to find an entry

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>point unless it becomes kind of a romantic drama. My

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>issue with it is I found everybody so unlikable and

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the only time I really enjoyed them was when they

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>were all dressed up in bear costumes and stuff doing

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Eugene O'Neil's play. And where was that Provincetown or something? Um,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it looked like Cape Cod. I think it's Province Town,

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure. And they were all hold up

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and all of these people who just like wouldn't stop

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>talking over each other, and then they're putting on a

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>play and Warren Badies like wearing a bear costume, drinking

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>like so drinking who knows what, and you know, and

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it was also I really appreciated Jack Nicholson's commitment to

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>making his face like very slack um for the role

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of Eugene O'Neil. But I was telling Molly and Emily

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>outside that I was like very surprised, So I guess

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>he really wanted Jack Nicholson for this role. But they

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>also considered James Taylor and Sam Shepherd, who look much

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>more like Eugene O'Neill, and I guess Nicholson was so

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>much older than O'Neill was supposed to be, and I'm

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>sure Beatty was much older than John Ligow to play.

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>But then he was like, I have to do it myself,

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I know, but he John red Jack read Jack is

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>his given name in the film, but he died when

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>he was thirty three, and we actually like go back

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and just explain what this movie is for people who

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. It's a three hour it's

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>been established about um, some people in the American Communist gang. Okay,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>they were part of the Socialist Party UH in the

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<v Speaker 1>States and then like become involved in global communist politics

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>at the time that Russias, like the bullshe Communists in

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>America around the time of the Bolshevik Revolution. Well, and

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>it's obviously based on real people Jack Reads, based on

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Jack read about Ten Days That Shook the World. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the only American journalist in Russia at the time.

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And Diane Keaton plays Louise Bryant, who was a writer,

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>feminist person of interest who had lots and lots of

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>affairs and had a bunch of horrible diseases later that

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>are not covered in this movie, but that I researched

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>deeply sexual disease. No, it's like there's she suffered from something.

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>So she was apparently never a big drinker, which is

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of lines up with what happens in the movie

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>where she's usually like pouring other people drinks. At one point,

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>someone's like, oh, you're not drinking your beard, Like do

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 1>you want wine? She was like no, but they don't

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 1>really go into it. But she had a period of

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.720
<v Speaker 1>like very intense alcoholism after she married her second husband,

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>because she got this disease that is it just sounds

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>like the worst thing ever. And I spent a long

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>time looking at Wikipedia. She found love again, she knows

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>apparently a really really bad I mean basically what happened

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 1>is so she married this really wealthy guy whose last

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>name was bullet Um, and she got a terrible disease

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that affects adipo tissues, so you just get like huge

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>fat deposits. It's bad. So then she became an alcoholic.

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>She also had a daughter, and I think they adopted

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>another child, but because of her alcoholism, she lost custody

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>of the kids. He got custody of the kids, and

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:19.720
<v Speaker 1>her daughter, Anne bullet became then a horse breeder, socialite

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 1>and model. Very interestingly to me, she passed away. Um.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I went on a deep Wikipedia dive. This was like

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 1>around the time when I was like I cannot look

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>at the screen for being like, it's just really like

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the historically inaccurate and you know it's historic. Just wanted

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to deposits. I just felt as though it was it

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was a very romanticized things that I didn't find to

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 1>be romantic. And I was frustrated knowing that she was

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>never recognized as a good writer, because I wanted her

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 1>to be a good writer. I mean, that's part of

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the crux of the movie is that she really wants

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to be this like ambitious writer, but that she's never

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>actually writing anything, and she keeps being like, I can't

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>work because there's all these people in your house all

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the time. Uh, And so she never gets it done.

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And when people ask what she writes about, she goes

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>nothing and everything it's very vague. So then you kind

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of want, like I was nursing this hope that she

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>would kind of like really come into her own and

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>be really like a child in the movie, well only

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. There's only one thing she's known for. No.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>But then she like goes with him to Europe and

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.959
<v Speaker 1>she like finds like like he finally respects her because

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>she stops writing about dumb bullshit. But isn't it super

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>boring in a way to think of don't you wish

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that it could have been tweaked that she was actually

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>so much more talented than any of these men who

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>were always it was about it was about how like

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>women get marginalized in movements that are supposed to be

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>like avant garde always, and it was about to me,

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>it's about the nineteen teen z's through the lens of

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties as this like old experiment and idealism.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>But then it also it's like I just felt like

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>now to me, I was like, these are all the

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>same things people still argue about, and it's about just

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>sort of like the way that like human flaws get

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>in the way of your big ideals. I feel like

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>less than the issue of whether or not she ends

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>up being like a great writer or like goes down

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in history as a great writer. I think one thing

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>that contrasts her um with Jack Read or John reid

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Um is that she actually sticks to journalism and sticks

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to writing, and he gets so caught up and like

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>actually trying to be a politician, which is like the

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>whole kind of last third of the movie is he's

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>also writing poetry because everyone knows is bad, right, not

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a strong sits so hot that everyone's afraid to tell him.

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think, like, but I think that that's really interesting,

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>is like, and I think, you know, it's obviously very

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>instructive that it's the man who's the person who gets

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>pulled into actually being a political figure and like being

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 1>the figurehead of this movement as opposed to having what's

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>ultimately kind of the humility to be just the like

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>document or of it and to you know, take all

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of it in and to be the person who's out

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>there and the trenches reporting, which she sticks to. And

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, they keep kind of running into each other

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>in Russia and sort of like having dramatic meetings, and

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>it's always it always has this tone of like she's

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>sticking to the thing that she said she wanted to

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>do um, which I thought was really interesting. She's like

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to prove to him always that she's like a

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>serious person or like as serious as he is, because

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like everybody automatically treats him like the smart one.

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>But the movie doesn't. The movies like they're equals, and

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 1>this movie is about two people that are intellectual equals

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to like navigate the world. But there's so much

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>hypocrisy in those characters. I mean, he's a socialist, right

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>has a sign on his door that said, um, property

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>is theft, come in. But his parents are extremely wealthy

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.399
<v Speaker 1>and presumably he's asked at one point who's paying your rent?

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Or how are paying your rent? And it's presumably his

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>parents are paying his rent. Apparently, Um, the real Jack

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Read grew up tremendously wealthy in a mansion, and his

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>parents really wanted him to go to Harvard because his

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>dad was like this industrial you know, success, but had

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>never graduated from college, and they made him keep applying

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>to Harvard. And then he got into a second try

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and ended up writing for the Lampoon or maybe he

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>was the editor, and he led a very very privileged life. Then.

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe he even went back on his socialism and

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>communism later in life in real life, but I'm not

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a percent sure about that. But I mean there's like

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of Obviously, Louise Bryant's character is extremely

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>hypocritical as well, because she wants like a no strings

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>attached relationship, but then she gets very jealous. It's funny,

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>it's about human follies. I think it can just be

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>tedious because it is such a passion project, and it's

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>so it really dwells on like you know, it dwells

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on everything. That's why it's three hours and fifteen minutes.

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>But you, I think, are a stand How is it

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>funny though? Like I mean, I think it's because it

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't portray them as heroic. It portrays them as like

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>deeply flawed. And that's like it tries to do both. Yeah,

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's important to have like something you believe in,

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>it's the point. But if you're a total hypocrite and

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you believe it makes it extremely the only book about

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bolshevik Revolution, and that was great. But he kind

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of built like it's easy to be It's easy to say,

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, property is theft. Come in if you can

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>afford ran On a beautiful brownstone in Greenwich Village, right,

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>But at least he let everybody come in, like rich

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>people can disavow being rich. I don't know, man, it

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't that seemed as though it was being framed as

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>being a virtue, and I found it kind of not. Yeah,

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have as much of a problem with that.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually catch on that his parents are rich.

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's also just like he's a white man, Like

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it's why, like he's kind of protected, like a hot

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>white man. Yeah, and they're hanging around with like Emma Goldman,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>who like they very adorably amazing. Didn't you think she

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>was amazing? I thought a lot of the performances were amazing.

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Se Maureen Stapleton player. I think she won the Academy Awards.

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>She's the idea of making like a three hour movie

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that is a character driven movie with like a lot

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of amazing actors in it. That's like George Plimpton about

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>something interesting that people don't know that much about. I

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 1>thought it was just it was very like we've always

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>lived in the same moment, like people have the same

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>foibles always, Like you didn't find it a little indulgent

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>when people took turns, both the witnesses and the actors.

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>The witnesses we should probably justus. I love the witnesses

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 1>were my favorite. So it's like the movie is sort

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 1>of punctuated by these UM kind of talking head interviews

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of people who were contemporary with UM,

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>with Jack Reed and Louise Bryant and kind of knew

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>them were in their circles or were also you know

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in the social socialist movement, and they're all like in

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>their nineties at this point, and some of them are

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a hoot. Honestly, it was so funny because yeah, it

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was great. Who are the two women? There's like these

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>two ladies who talked about are British and one of

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>them has like enormous glasses. Yes, I was just like,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>she's I want to be her when one of them

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I know that one of the women was the was

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a relative of Louise Bryant's first husband, who was the

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>dentist in Portland. And so she she's the one who

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>was like she always struck me as an exhibition I

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>think so. And she wanted my coat. Yeah, oh the coat,

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>so sad a woman. I was like, Louise sucks. She

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, Louise wanted this coat that I had that

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I had brought back from Germany, and she kept asking

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>for it and I kept saying, but I also want

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>my coat also, like side note, Emily and I are

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>both very attached to the coats that we have. Right now,

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk we've been talking about coats. But she she started,

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this woman the witness started shaking when she was talking

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>about it, like she was still kind of really traumatized,

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and she was like I eventually just had to give

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>it to her because she just wouldn't give up. Because

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>that was Louise. She just got what she wanted. I

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, funk that one. OK, I had other code. Yeah.

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the shagginess of it is to me at

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>least part of its charms. It's not it's not shaggy.

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>It was shotted by Dee d Allen, who's like a

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>famous New Hollywood editor, and just I mean just the

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>fact that it opens with you know that it has

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the interviews woven in, but it's not it does not

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>strike me. I mean, it is a studio film, and

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I think like much it was Paramount I believe, who

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>put it out, and like I think, much to their

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.320
<v Speaker 1>chagrin by the time it was finally a Good Doctor.

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was won a lot of Academy Award

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but it won. He won for Best Director, but it

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>lost in two categories, including Best Picture Two Chariots of Fire.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I just showed it to Reagan at the Reagan White House.

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Warren Batty is extremely proud of what he

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>did with Reds and I think it is of a time,

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>but watching it now you can see parallel but it's

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>very dated. No, it's not dated at all. I don't. Yeah,

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it seems dated. I think the production

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:11.399
<v Speaker 1>value on it is actually. This is why I say

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't feel shaggy to me, Like it's actually like,

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's beautifully shot, it's very Victoria sto, but

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't have a lot of the markers that

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like would give it away as picture, like all of

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>the location shooting, all of the natural light shooting, and

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>just like it doesn't feel like a new Hollywood picture.

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess because it's the eighties right now, they're kind

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of we're kind of out of that to make a

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>classic romance, right And it's a big budget ding I

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>mean it was million dollars or something, and apparently the

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>financial a lot for issues with it were caused a

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:52.720
<v Speaker 1>huge strain in Warren Batties romantic relationship with Sci five

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>editors working. Yes, it was a troubled production, but I mean,

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean it was dated in terms of how

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it is beautiful and especially I mean some

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of the shots in Provincetown, which like I enjoyed a

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>lot Androtten croton On Hudson Croton On Hudson Hudson's It

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is so just funny because I feel like that's like

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>a huge Republican, Like I think it is weird to

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>think about these socialists like chilling and they're a little

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 1>croton On Hudson Cabin. It's more just I think they're

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like talk Oh the dogs see Okay, My favorite part

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of this movie is when he gives He gives Louise

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a Golden Retriever in a box and then then they

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>have to That dog's name is Jesse, which is the

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>weirdest name for a dog I've ever. She grew up

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>with a dog named Jason, and I was like, there

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you go, can't beat Jason. That's the top dog name.

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Is A popular dog name is Lola. I had a

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>dog named you did. I'm sure even that, Yeah, I

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>must have erased it. I love the name Lola so good?

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>But movie is it? Your fa I think it's the

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>best movie. When was the first time you saw it?

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw it? Okay, the first time I saw it

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>was in college, and I was like, why isn't everybody

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about this all the time? It's so good? But

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw it, I definitely thought that

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it was about like a folly, about like pursuing a

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>folly to your detriment, like over in her Talk movie.

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>And then the next time I watched it, I was like, no,

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>this movie rules. It's about having principles that you stick

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to and things that matter in your life, and not

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>just like you know, I will say, I think it's

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>very easy for somebody like Warren Beatty to romanticize the

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>plight of the like starving revolutionary and a very romanticize that.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 1>The whole second act is about, like we don't see

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the beans that they're eating, you know, I can. They

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>go to the w and it goes to the like

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the royal palace or whatever, and they're eating like onions

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>for dinner. And he's like, it's about the disillusioned, but

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not him. It's like the Russians cushion. I mean,

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I would be so much to have a cushion. When

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 1>he's in Russia, in Russia and he has to be

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>like the real proletariat and he's like, wait, this isn't

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>like I can't handle this. I'm too soft for this.

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm American. That's like the movie doesn't like say like

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>and it all worked out great for everybody, But it

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't say like, don't try anything different because like it

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 1>will never work out, which is what like history wants

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>you to think. Well, it did make me think that

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I think many people, I would say many American people

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>probably like grow up sort of wishing they had the

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 1>guts to be like an artist or an entertainer, an

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 1>actor or something like that, you know, even if it's

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>not the thing, they actually pursue it. Like a lot

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of people have that sort of romantic notion in their

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>heads just because of what Hollywood does to us. But

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that like if you're actually in Hollywood, you

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>just romanticize like being like revolutionary or being like you know, well,

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it was also are in Beatty trying to

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>prove himself to his ex girlfriend Julie Christie, who was

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 1>like a real leftist and being like, look, I'm just

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>as serious as you actually, So he's like the Louise.

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:11.959
<v Speaker 1>But I also do think he does such a good

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>job playing like a really pompous, self absorbed man in

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a way. That's why could that be? But played But

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like the movies make fun of him you know,

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>like that's why Shampoo is so good too. It's like

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not he's not heroic at all. It's like from

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the women's point of view is like equally important in

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 1>the movie. Well, I would say in this movie, the

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>women's point of view is more important, which is like

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the things. And and I mean it goes

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>without saying, but I mean dan Ken is so charmie

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and she's so good in this yeah, I mean, you know,

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I think also this movie was like supposedly super Ghost

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>rewritten by a lot of people, including no Elaine May

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 1>and Robert Town and my like crypto read on this

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>movie has always been that it's about Elane May working

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>through her relationship with Mike Nichols, about being in like

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a partnership of like two people where the guy is

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 1>getting gassed up all the time and told he's a

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>genius and you're like, but I'm a genius, and also like,

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>but I mean she doesn't write anything for two thirds

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>of the movie. But I think he has the good

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 1>point when he's like, you're writing about an art show

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>that happened three years ago the Armory. That's why it's

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>good because it's like he doesn't respect her as a person.

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Why does she have so much? But she does pretend

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<v Speaker 1>to take herself here, I mean she I think she

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.800
<v Speaker 1>does take herself extremely seriously. It's just that there's nothing

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.399
<v Speaker 1>to back it up. And that's just I'm like, well,

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it's also like this thing of like the world where

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<v Speaker 1>like men and women are promising to take each other,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as equals, but then it's like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>actually happening? You know, who's actually getting the the um

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>microphone all the time? And that to me is why

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it felt like it was about the sixties and seventies,

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, which is like it actually feels more like

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the film, like women had more of

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to have a have a platform. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>of all these the sixties or you know, any other

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<v Speaker 1>like even then now, I mean to bring it up

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>for the fifty millions time, but an easy writer's raging bulls,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the great betrayal of the book is that like

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<v Speaker 1>the women are all expecting the men to like treat

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<v Speaker 1>them as equals because they are, you know, they're in

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>all these partnerships that are like these seventies equal partnerships

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>between people that are like artists that want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the movies. And then with like George Lucas and

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Marshall Lucas, and with like Peter Bogdanovich and Polly Platt,

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 1>there's all these like partnerships that fracture because the man

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:38.240
<v Speaker 1>becomes really powerful and immediately screws over the woman who's like, wait,

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like here for you and like doing all

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the stuff, and we thought we were in this together,

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but like we're clearly not. And so just like bringing

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:50.399
<v Speaker 1>things like the invention of polyamory into that is so

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<v Speaker 1>funny too, just the idea of like people using free

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>love as an excuse to do whatever they want. Um.

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.239
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that it's like her doing it is unexpected.

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I think they're they're both day but she does it

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:06.879
<v Speaker 1>with Eugene O'Neill because she knows it's going to hurt him. Also,

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Eugene O'Neill he like reads her to fill

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>to the end he's you people are idiots, and then

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 1>she calls him a drunk. It's like, I think the

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>movie is critical of the people in the movie. Yeah,

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's uncritical of them. I mean, I

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I just think it has an easy time romanticize it

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it too, but I don't think it's

0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>unanimously and one I think that it's romantic. That what

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Warren Beatty clearly thinks is romantic is like an equal

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>partnership between a man and a woman. You know, he

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>wants to be in love with a woman that he respects.

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.959
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that comes across in the movie,

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's what makes it different from a lot of

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>movies that are like famous Hollywood romances. To me makes

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>me feel, yeah, that's the thing is that like in

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>this story, it's not like the romance is the break

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>from the work or the obstacle that they have to overcome.

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like all woven into it, which I think what

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>makes it feel really interesting to watch. And like, I

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>think it would be really hard to write something like

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>this because you've so used to kind of balance like

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>contrasting a romantic relationship with whatever the problem where the

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.879
<v Speaker 1>action is, but like to make it all like there

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>are no boundaries between like the work that they're doing,

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>how they're trying to better themselves as people, and how

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to like maintain their relationship and make it work.

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's like that task of writing

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that I actually really admire in the movie a lot.

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a great point. And I did enjoy

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean there were things I enjoyed. I think if

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it had been a shorter movie, I would have given

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 1>it much more of a pass. But I think that

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the problem is how high of a tolerance you have

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>for people like that who are just they talk like

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 1>so much over each other, so many ideas, they have ideas,

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and they've had a lot of coffee and started with

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a coffee starting really stressed out. I was like, they

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:54.359
<v Speaker 1>can't possibly that's not a good idea. Like the King

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Coffee always talks about the coffee houses starting the Great Enlightenment,

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, because everybody he was drinking so much coffee.

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>They had lots of ideas. It's true. I think that's

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 1>what it was. Sure, I'll take it. I'll believe the

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:10.839
<v Speaker 1>more ideas in the day. Well, thanks for making us

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:12.919
<v Speaker 1>watch I will say thank you for making us watch

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 1>this because I hadn't seen it and I was glad

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>to have. Yeah, it's on Hulu. It's my duty to

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>tell everybody to watch it. I mean, maybe it's not

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>for everybody but it's a good thing to see so

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that you can decide for yourself if you can't finish it.

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm going to say that's okay. I think

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you've made three hours almost. I respect that kind of

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 1>ambitiousness in a movie, and I think it succeeds. I

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>think it is a kind of movie that it needs

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to be that long, even if it doesn't need to

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>be that long, if you know what I mean, Like,

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>there's something about something that has the scope of this

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that you kind of get. You get, especially when it

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>starts with the dr to like like, I mean, sure,

0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I believe definitely some of us manipulative, intern but like,

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>what is that manipulative in a romantic movie when people

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 1>come off trains at the station and you're not expecting it.

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I like that. Did you cry? Yes? You cried? Did

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you cry Emily? No, I did not cry. But whatever,

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the important thing is, I just have to because if

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a movie makes you cry, you're gonna stand

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>up for it no matter what. I admire that it's

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the train scene. I don't know. I if I were

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 1>going to make it a little shorter, I would have

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>just taken out a lot of the dancing. I don't

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>think the movie would have suffered. But it was like

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 1>they had a dancing sequence where everyone was wearing different

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 1>outfits and it was like it was to show the

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 1>passage of time. No I know this, Molly, but it

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't all have to be dancing. It was like like

0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minute block of just dancing that's like three months.

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just so it's so much dancing thing because I

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:51.319
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, parties, parties in the nineteen TENSI it's

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 1>like fun. Also, the outfits were great. Speaking of the

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 1>butt chev address, now we know where it came from.

0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't even like that style at all.

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to dress like this at all. It's

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty to look at it, you just don't want to

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:05.359
<v Speaker 1>dress like that because it looks horrible to wear. Sure,

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>it's about the petty struggles of a bunch of white people,

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of like the Big Chill. Maybe that's you should

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 1>like it more because of that. I find them too obnoxious.

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>There's not a great enough array of personalities that you

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>focus on your stuck with trapped in the gulag together

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>at a reunion. It's I look, first of all, at

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 1>least in the Big Chill. Everyone seemed to have their

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>own bedrooms, and the blinds weren't all crooked and stuff.

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Is this because you don't like the idea of communal living?

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I love the Big Chill? But are you stressed?

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you stressed out by the idea of somebody being

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like anyone can come into my house? Totally stressed out

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 1>about that. But it's really that I wouldn't want any

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of them coming into my house because they all were

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 1>so they were like, Hey, what are you working on? Hey,

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 1>what are you working on? Hey? What are you working on?

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.799
<v Speaker 1>More coffee? More coffee? Morkff, And I'm like, get stop it. Well,

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>they did a good job of showing how annoying that

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:58.720
<v Speaker 1>was for his girlfriend who was trying to work. Yes,

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>they did, but she was equally annoying. And when they

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 1>played all of her letters to him so that they overlapped.

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I hated it. I hated that the movie. I did

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>not like the movie, but I didn't hate it, And

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 1>because I hate most things, I'd consider that a win.

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we accept good. Maybe if it had a

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:21.359
<v Speaker 1>little more Baby Yoda, if everything needs baby Yoda at

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this point, well, we're gonna be back two weeks from

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