1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Doug Gottleeb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Easter twelve, two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching appspr Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: Man. 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's a Tuesday, and it's a beautiful day 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: here in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Eighty degrees. The Packers are 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: two and o. The Chargers are two and O. 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Gary has authored a new book, Brady 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Versus Belichick, The Dynasty debate, which is out to debt 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: today wherever you find books. We'll get to all of that. 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: But this is a Tuesday. It's one of the more 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: enjoyable segments we do. Guys created this, and I think 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: this is week two of it. It's called Tuesday Morning 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Quarterback Tuesday. 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: This is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon. Mondays can 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we didn't get. 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: To on Monday. 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: This is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon. 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: I got several things to get to. I want to start, honestly, 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: a team that we never talk about unless their coaches 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of butchering the Duvall, Dovall, the dou that's it. 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: That's the one. If you watch Jacksonville, they have a 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver who's in his second year named Brian Thomas Junior. 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: There are at least three, if not four plays where 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: it was one huge interception. He quits on a ball 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: over the middle, like literally stopped in his tracks because 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: he thought it was going to be a hospital ball. 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: It was such a thing that Liam Comb was asked 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: about it after the game, and he sidestepped it smartly 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: as a coach and said I'll have to look at it. 43 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: But for a team that's trying to figure out Trevor Lawrence, 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: he left Lawrence, hung Lawrence out to dry several times. 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: It is a massive topic in Jacksonville. And I don't 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: know how you throw the guy out there next week 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: when he wanted no part of getting hit, and that's 48 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: actually the job of a wide receiver anyway. I just 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: there was a Tuesday morning quarterback that we hadn't talked about. 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's talked about in national radio. A 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: very big thing. If you watch that game, the loss 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: to the Bengals. Obviously the Bengals have been talked about, 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: but the Jacksonville Jaguars. 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 5: We talk about another receiver on that depth chart. So 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 5: when you're giving Travis Hunter a full time reps at 56 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: receiver and you're not giving him the reps as a corner. 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: Through two games, we have not seen a I think 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: we've seen some catches, but we just haven't seen that 59 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: like Heisman Trophy, second overall pick kind of like game 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: changing performance. So what point, if you're the Jags, do 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 5: you stop with this nonsense of playing them both ways? 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: You give him full time reps and he could be 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: the shutdown corner that he was promised when he first 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: got to Florida State and then renigged and went to 65 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: Jackson State and then went to Colorado and now his 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 5: name is up in the rafters at in Boulder. 67 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Again, most people had told us right that he was 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: better on defense than an offense. And he did have 70 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: six targets, only caught three balls. But yeah, I mean, 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: there's not the dynamic number one overall pick playmaker you 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: would you would. 73 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: Think there yet? 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Ye yet yet yet? All right, Dan Buyer will give 75 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: give give me Tuesday. 76 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: Well, I was just gonna say just a couple of 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: things on that. 78 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 7: First of all, like we the Brian Thomas thing is 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 7: really concerning because of how productive he was last year 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 7: for them, and Liam Cohen is brought in. I mean, 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 7: these coaches have been brought in. Doug Peterson was in 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 7: to make sure that Trevor Lawrence works. Now Liam Cohen 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 7: is brought in to make sure that Trevor Lawrence works. 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 7: I've seen you mentioned the hospital balls that Trevor Lawrence 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 7: has thrown. And maybe Brian Thomas not willing to sacrifice everything. 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 7: I think there could be a little bit of responsibility 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 7: on the quarterback's shoulders with that. But it is an 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 7: interesting scenario because he was really really good last year 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 7: and for a division that is apparently for the taking 90 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 7: right now. It's shocking to me that threw two games 91 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 7: in after a stellar rookie season where I think it 92 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 7: was second in the AFC and receiving yards last year, 93 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 7: that we're having a Brian Thomas Junior conversation. And I 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 7: just think the jury with with Travis Hunters is still out. 95 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 7: But I can understand why Jason is underwhelmed by what 96 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 7: we've had the first two weeks of the season, considering 97 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 7: that the reason the Jaguars took him at number two 98 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 7: was to be a two way player. That's that's the 99 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 7: reason why. 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: Uh okay, I'll give you another one. 101 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: And I think it has you Iowa samming it? Are you? 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, everybody's had chance to run. You're 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: commenting on mine? You know what? Go ahead, Dan, you 104 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: got one. 105 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 7: I know, I just I was gonna say, because we 106 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 7: we can go back around. 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: But let's go. Let's go back around. 108 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a fire segment. 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: Fire go ahead. Hey, we don't have one at buyer 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: have Buyer's remorse on Gottlieb talking too much. 111 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 4: Well, I was, I was gonna say. 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 7: What stood out to me is Brian Dable can't win 113 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 7: at all, even when do you think they have a 114 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 7: win in the win column. The Cowboys kick a sixty 115 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 7: four yard field goal and Russell Wilson plays the game 116 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 7: of his career four hundred and fifty yards in three touchdowns, 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 7: and then he throws an awful interception in the overtime 118 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 7: which ultimately leads to Dallas kicking the game winning field 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 7: goal in that overtime session. And then I know something 120 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 7: that Jason is going to get to in just a 121 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 7: little bit. But now the Giants for the second straight 122 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 7: year have a player that they cut loose that was 123 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 7: supposed to be a big part of their future thriving 124 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 7: in another place, and he just cannot win. There is 125 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 7: nothing that can happen, I think in this season now 126 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 7: to save Brian dables job, considering everything that this happened, 127 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 7: Jackson Dart would have to be better than Tom Brady. 128 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 7: I think for the Giants to keep not only Brian 129 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 7: Dable but Joe Shane around because it is it is 130 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 7: for as good as things could be it ultimately sours 131 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 7: for the Giants, and I think Sunday was the perfect example. 132 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 7: Four hundred and fifty yards, three touchdowns and Wilson throws 133 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 7: a bad pick and over time he ended up losing 134 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 7: the game. 135 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: I didn't see it. Has Dave Ball been on record 136 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: as explaining how he handled the quarterbacks in the last 137 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: part of that game. There was a time when Jackson 138 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: Dart was playing every other snap. Was that explained in 139 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: the in the Cowboys game? Yeah? Yeah, no, I that's 140 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: unusual for me. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson played like dog 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: crap in Week one, and day Ball was very stern 142 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: on Tuesday when he said he's still our quarterback. Then 143 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: he gets late into a game against the Cowboys and 144 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 5: starts going platoon every other snap for at least a series. 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: When Russell Wilson is playing the game of his life. 146 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 5: It was just such a head scratcher. I just haven't 147 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: seen that. Followed up on. 148 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 7: It's also Just a pub the podcast I Want Your 149 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 7: Flex Podcast, new episode out our producer Ian Roddy putting 150 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 7: the bat signal and highlighting the play of one Daniel 151 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 7: Jones and how it affects Brian Dabole. So new podcast 152 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 7: episode is out. 153 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Now go ahead, Jase too. 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 5: I do want to talk about the Daniel Jones's teammate. 155 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: I don't know how many people around the country know 156 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: this person, so I'm going to introduce you to rigo 157 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 5: Berto Sanchez. Rigo Berto Sanchez has been a punter in 158 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 5: the NFL for I think eight or nine years. He 159 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 5: went to college at Hawaii. He grew up kind of 160 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: near where Aaron Rodgers grew up in northern California. He's 161 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 5: the punter for the Colts. He's also the first punter 162 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: in the history of the NFL, well since the Murderer 163 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 5: what have you, that has gone the first two games 164 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 5: without punting once. That is how a effective Shane Steigen's 165 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: offense under Daniel Jones has been. They have not had 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 5: to use their punter once in two games. There two 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: and zero. And I will say this Rendon, Anthony Rendon 168 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 5: of the Angels, he sent Regaberto a text with the 169 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: thumbs up for getting paid for not working. He also 170 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: got a text from Deshaun Watson, So Rigoberto's getting love 171 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: from a lot of people who get paid to do nothing. 172 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 5: Congratulations to Rigaberto. Sanchez and the Colts for being two and. 173 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna I want to talk about a game 174 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: that became crazy exciting and zero people have talked about 175 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: a national radio Did you guys watch any of the 176 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: Panthers Cardinals game? 177 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, we were on the air during it. 178 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: It was I mean it was I think twenty to 179 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: three at a half, and I again wasn't paying attention 180 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: and Bryce Young kind of caught a heater. I mean 181 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: he really, I mean he threw the ball fifty five 182 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: times completely, thirty five of them, but caught a heater, 183 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: started getting his rhythm. They were down twenty seven to 184 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: twenty two. Recovered an on sidekick with one fifty five 185 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: to go right, he wasn't like there. They recovered it 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: onside kick and there's like ten seconds and they had 187 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: to chuck it deep, like literally recovered it and had 188 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: a chance to win the game outright on the road 189 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: and couldn't really move the football. There was there was 190 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: a big penalty on Arizona on like the third play. 191 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they had opportunities, but I'm trying to figure 192 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: out is Arizona any good Calibery's been just okay? And 193 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: last year, remember Bryce Young got pulled and then got 194 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: the job back late in the year, and kind of 195 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: no one's talked about Bryce Young this year, just because 196 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: I think we'd all come to the conclusion that he's 197 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: too little and not good enough. All that may be true, 198 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: but he looked really good in the second half. Granted, 199 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: you know your second half you're behind your throwing every down, 200 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: but he was really, really good, and the Panthers were competitive. 201 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Now they return home, they get the Falcons and the 202 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Patriots on the road, then the Dolphins at home and 203 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: Cowboys at home, than the Jets and road. These are 204 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: games of which they can win two of these. But again, 205 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, who we thought was a complete bust and 206 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: too small to play the position, at least in the 207 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: second half when I was watching it, did not watch 208 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: the whole game. I watched when it got exciting, when 209 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: he started to catch a heater, looked really good. On Sunday. 210 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 5: As one of the millions of people in this country 211 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 5: that had Arizona as their survivor pick on Sunday, I 212 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: watched painfully closely to that final five to eight minutes. 213 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 5: I don't know if it was Bryce Young or if 214 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: it was the stupidity of the Cardinals defense. There was 215 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: one penalty after another, well, one sloppy play after another, 216 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 5: including the on side kick where the idiot on on 217 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: side kick protection didn't quite understand that you can't touch 218 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 5: the ball before you go and block somebody. 219 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 7: There's also the fact that Kyler Murray threw an interception 220 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 7: up twenty seven to nine and a third and three 221 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 7: where if you kick a field goal you may get 222 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 7: a twenty one point lead, but for all intents and purposes, yeah, 223 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 7: the game is over. So he turns it over with 224 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 7: ten minutes to go, allows then Bryce Young to kind 225 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 7: of start this comeback. Also in that game, Jason talks 226 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 7: about the flags and the stupidity of Arizona, and there 227 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 7: were lapses, no doubt, but there was also a personal 228 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 7: foul roughing the passer call that kept the drive alive 229 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 7: on a fourth and fifteen that was just atrocious. And 230 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 7: it was a flag fest in this game, and it 231 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 7: was a tough watch because of all of the stoppages, 232 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 7: of all of the changes, of all of these things. 233 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 7: It was just completely frustrating. But some of that what 234 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 7: happened on Sunday does fall on the shoulders of Kyler Murray. 235 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 7: Because it all started with his red zone interception to 236 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 7: allow that comeback. 237 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you one more guy who I know you 238 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: hadn't forgotten because you have a fantasy football podcast. I 239 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: drafted in fantasy football. I've been rewarded by it, but 240 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: we had forgotten how dynamic Jonathan Taylor is. Like again, 241 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: you guys are right in regards to Danny Dimes and 242 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: what it means for Brian day Ball. But the real 243 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: story of Danny Dimes is he was good with the 244 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: Giants when they had Saquon Barkley, and they didn't have 245 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, they didn't have anything right. We got hurt 246 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: bad when he was with the Eagles. He's bad with 247 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: the Colts. Jonathan Taylor can run it, can catch it. 248 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: You know, he had one hundred and sixty five yards 249 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: the other day. But he can also catch out of 250 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: the backfield. Like He's unbelievable. How good he is again, 251 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. Got to stay healthy, obviously, but in 252 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: a division which I think Dan you mentioned can be had. 253 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: We're talking about Jacksonville. Here's Indy at two and zero, 254 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: and all we're focusing on is the owner. We're in 255 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: the headset and taking notes about, you know, about what 256 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: the coaches are doing and the story should be. Jonathan 257 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: Taylor is making everybody around him look, especially Danny Dimes, 258 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: look really really good. All right, Yeah, give us yourt 259 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: thoughts again. We try and cover everything in the NFL, 260 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: and some stuff is left on the cutting room floor. 261 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: That's what we call Tuesday Morning Quarterback. 262 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 263 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 264 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 265 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: listen live. 266 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's 267 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a New York Times bestselling author, longtime sports sportswriter, covering, 268 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: among other things, that the National Football League. And he's 269 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: authored a new book that's called Brady Versus Belichick The 270 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: Dynasty Debate, which is out today wherever you get your 271 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: books are online if you could audio books as well. 272 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Gary Myers joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show 273 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and Gary, what what pushed you 274 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: to write this book? 275 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 6: Doug? I think that you know, I'm always looking for 276 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 6: interesting topics to write books about, and this one in particular, 277 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 6: just kind of jumped out of me that I think 278 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 6: it's truly like the greatest unanswered debate in NFL history. 279 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 6: There's no real right or wrong answer, but everybody has 280 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 6: an opinion on it. So I decided that it was. 281 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 6: It was so intriguing to me because there were you know, 282 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 6: highs and lows, ebbs and flows during the twenty years together, 283 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 6: where early on it was Belichick, then it was both 284 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: of them, and then it was Brady. I just just 285 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 6: set out to talk to as many people as I 286 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 6: possibly could and put together something that I thought would 287 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 6: be like the defensive look at the Brady Belichick era, 288 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 6: you know, strictly through the lens of which is the 289 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 6: is the most credit? 290 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So what was the process, like, how did you 291 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: how did you dive into finding out who deserves the 292 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: most credit? 293 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 6: Well, I talked to I talked to a lot of 294 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 6: the players that played for Belichick and were teammates with Tom. 295 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 6: I talked to a bunch of coaches who went against them. 296 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 6: I looked into their legacies and how they were impacted 297 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 6: by the controversies, you know, Spygate in the flate date, 298 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 6: and how that would how history would look at them 299 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 6: as a result of that, and whether that would taint 300 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 6: any of their accomplishments. I think that's my favorite chapter 301 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 6: in the book, really is about Moe Lewis, who was 302 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: the Jets linebackers. I'm sure you remember who blasted Drew 303 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: Bletsoe in that game in two thousand and one in 304 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 6: Foxborough that began the Brady era, and Lewis has become 305 00:16:55,080 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 6: sort of a recluse from football because Jet fans, and 306 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 6: I think very unfairly Doug blame him for the Patriot 307 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 6: dynasty because they're saying, if he didn't do that to Bledsoe, 308 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 6: then we never would have heard of Tom Brady, which 309 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 6: isn't true because Belichick loved Brady even before he stepped 310 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 6: on the field. But all Lewis was doing was what 311 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 6: he was paid to do. He was a linebacker, and 312 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 6: to Bletsoe at a third and ten, he was running 313 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: around the right end trying to get a first down 314 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 6: on a third and ten and the Jets were up seven, 315 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 6: was five minutes to go, and he was expecting Blesso 316 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 6: to run out of bounds. He wanted him to run 317 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 6: out of bounds to said. He cut it inside and 318 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 6: his left shoulder or his right shoulder, hid Blodsoe on 319 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 6: the left side of his chest and it was the 320 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 6: most brutal hit I've ever seen, and so Mo is 321 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 6: very resentful of Jet fans blaming him. What happened after 322 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 6: that when all that really needed to happen was the 323 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 6: Jets had to figure out a way to beat the Patriots, 324 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 6: which I only did once. Then happened to me in the player, 325 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 6: you know, but so Mowa has become somewhat of a 326 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 6: football recluse that he just he was okay. I had 327 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 6: to talk him into talking to me, but once once 328 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 6: he did, I mean, he was, he was great. But 329 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 6: I kind of hung up the phone feeling bad for 330 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: him that a big part of his life is no 331 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 6: longer a part of his life because he feels like, 332 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 6: you know, he's just been blamed and it's kind of ridiculous. 333 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 6: But that's the way. 334 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous, you know, It's funny, Gary, I was 335 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: that was the first weekend. That was the first weekend's 336 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: game after nine to eleven. 337 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's right, And. 338 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: I believe it was Sunday Sunday night Football. 339 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 6: No, actually it was it was a four clock I 340 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: think it was a four. 341 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: O'clock okay, and I was I was watching it at 342 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: Siders in Plainville, Connecticut. You're like, well, why do you know? 343 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Because that was that was my first chance. I was 344 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: still playing professional basketball, but nothing was going on overseas, 345 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: so I got to fill in for Todd Wright all night. 346 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: And somewhere there's probably a tape kept where I said, 347 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe's out, like the Patriots are done. And you know, 348 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: obviously I can eat my words today. It is fascinating, right, 349 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he went to Tampa and he won a 350 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and I would point out that Belichick, you know, 351 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: one year he won seven games I think it was 352 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: seven games with Cam Newton as quarterback, who couldn't throw 353 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: the ball anymore, right, They won games with less than 354 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: one hundred yards passing, and I thought that might have 355 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: been his best coaching job ever. But as you kind 356 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: of broke into all of these interviews, what's the general 357 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: sense you got from from players now that they're kind 358 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: of removed from the situation. 359 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, as far as the Cam Newton situation 360 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 6: was concerned, I think that really accentuates the point that Belichick, 361 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 6: for whatever reason, was completely unprepared for the post Brady era. 362 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 6: Even though he pushed him out the door, he didn't 363 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 6: have the successor in the building. He wanted it to 364 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 6: be Garoppolo, but I think Jimmy was gonna antsy to play. 365 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 6: But more than that, Brady wanted him out of the building, 366 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: and Kraft forced Belichick to trade Garoppolo, and he wound 367 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 6: up trading him to the Niners. Now it turns out, 368 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 6: you know, Tom is in the seventeen season and the 369 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 6: eighteen season got back to the super Bowl again, so 370 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 6: he wasn't anywhere near Don and so Groppolo probably would 371 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 6: have left anyhow. But that didn't prevent Belichick from trying 372 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 6: to find a quarterback because at some point Brady was 373 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 6: going to stop playing. It turns out he stopped playing 374 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 6: for the Patriots because Belichick didn't want him anymore. But 375 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 6: that was I think that really illustrated how Belichick lost 376 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 6: his touch with personnel, both in drafting and in signing 377 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 6: free agents. That he lets Brady walk out the door 378 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 6: without having somebody that he said, Okay, this guy's going 379 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 6: to play instead, And you know, the next year that 380 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 6: drafted Mac Jones and they made the playoffs and they 381 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 6: lose by thirty points set of bills, and then he 382 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 6: brings in I think it was in twenty two, maybe 383 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 6: it was twenty two. He brings in Matt, brings Matt 384 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 6: Patricia back and Joe Judge back, a defensive coach and 385 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 6: a special teams coach who failed as head coaches with 386 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 6: the Lions and the Giants, and he brings them back 387 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 6: as Mac Jones's coaches. And you got a guy who 388 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 6: made the playoffs as a rookie and you're trying to 389 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 6: build on it, and you make his coaches a special 390 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 6: teams coach and a defensive coach, and you know, not surprisingly, 391 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 6: Mac Jones won completely backwards. So I think overall, the 392 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 6: feelings from the players was that Belichick was extremely instrumental 393 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 6: in the early years of Brady, and I think you'd 394 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 6: have to be foolished not to think that way. But 395 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 6: as the years went on and Tom, you know, went 396 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 6: from being okay, only Peyton Manning is better too, Well, 397 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 6: he as good as Peyton Manning. Then he's better than 398 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 6: Peyton Manning. Now is he as good as Joe Montana? No, 399 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 6: he's better than Joe Montana. As he took those progressive 400 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 6: steps it became more bradish team than Belichick's team, And 401 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 6: I think the last seven years was completely Brady. 402 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports, Trader the Great 403 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: Gary Meyers joining us. He's written this new book it's 404 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: about Brady and Belichick, the dynasty debate. I think that's 405 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: it's just fascinating, It's absolutely fascinating. Is that why Belichick's 406 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: back coaching in college? 407 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 6: Well, if he wants to prove it coming without Brady, 408 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 6: He's not going to prove it by being in North 409 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 6: Carolina unless he wins the National championship, which I mean, 410 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 6: I follow college football somewhat, but I don't foresee that 411 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 6: happening in North Carolina. So I don't know. I think 412 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: he's in North Carolina, Doug because he loves to coach, 413 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 6: and he didn't have anything else he wanted to do, 414 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 6: and he's still felt he had the passion for it, 415 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 6: and he knew it wasn't going to get a job 416 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 6: in the NFL, so he took the job at Carolina. 417 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 6: It's the worst time, I mean, as you know, to 418 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 6: be a college coach at like in a major university, 419 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 6: because you got to deal with the nils and the 420 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 6: transfer portal and you have to re recruit your team 421 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 6: every year. I mean, who wants that where you've never 422 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 6: coached in college before. So it just shows how desperate 423 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 6: he was to coach again, that he'd throw himself into 424 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 6: the most chaotic time in college sports history. 425 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: Well, can I give you another, maybe a different way 426 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: of looking at it. 427 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 6: I don't know. 428 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's desperate or if it's arrogant. 429 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: And here's how what the NFL people have told me. 430 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: And again, you've done research, you've done a book. I'm 431 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: just you know, sports radio and now coaching. Okay, so 432 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: but they said, hey, you know what Belichick and those 433 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: guys did best with They were the best at the 434 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: waiver wire of anybody. They could find a guy who 435 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: hit Wes Welker, you know, and turn him into a superstar. 436 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: And I think there's an arrogance there to where I 437 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: love Michael Lombart, he's actually a family friend, and but 438 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: there's an arrogance there to where like, hey, we can 439 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: essentially every year is free agency in college football. We 440 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: can evaluate better than anybody else, and so we'll be 441 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: able to find diamonds in the rough and then use 442 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: the fact that we're you know, we're Bill Belichick. With 443 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: the high end guys, we'll be able to even at 444 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina with less of a budget. I'm sure they 445 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: have a really good budget than some of the big boys. 446 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: We're just smarter than you, right, because that was always 447 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: their thing with how they drafted, that was always their 448 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: thing with how you know, we just we think we're 449 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: better at developing. We think we're better at finding diamonds. Ruff. 450 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: I think part of it is they think that, yes, 451 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: it is chaotic, but it's every year free agency and 452 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: they can evaluate better than other people. 453 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 6: Well, the evaluation will help if they can find you know, 454 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 6: it's a cliche, but you know they find the diamonds 455 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: in the rough kind of guys. But the ones who 456 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 6: have an opportunity to go to LSU or Alabama or 457 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 6: Georgia or Michigan, and you have to figure the money 458 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 6: will probably about the same. Then it comes down to 459 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 6: Bob Belichick sitting in a seventeen year old's living room 460 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 6: with the kid's parents and they say, this guy's going 461 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 6: to get me into the NFL. Or are they thinking 462 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 6: I don't want to go play for this seventy three 463 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 6: year old. I don't know how long he's going to 464 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 6: be around, and you know, his reputation doesn't really appeal 465 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: to me. I think it can go either way. But Doug, 466 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 6: I think the whole key to whether he has success 467 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 6: in North Carolina is whether he can find a quarterback. 468 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 6: And I don't know that he'll get a five star 469 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 6: quarterback there. If a guy, if a kid wants to 470 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 6: go play, but he proved in New England, he doesn't 471 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 6: have to have He did it with a six round quarterback, 472 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 6: So if he can, I mean, he's never gonna find 473 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 6: another Brady, but he doesn't necessarily have to find somebody 474 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 6: like that. He just has to find somebody who's really good. 475 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 6: And you know, whether he hits Jack Pott and gets 476 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 6: a five star quarterback, or you know, finds a kid 477 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 6: who is sitting on the bench and who in Minnesota 478 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 6: or Nebraska or Michigan or whatever and and thinks he 479 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 6: has potential and then can develop them, maybe that's the 480 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 6: way he's got to do it. But if he doesn't 481 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 6: get a quarterback, they have no chance, because that's just 482 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 6: the way the game is structured, like. 483 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: Especially college football, especially especially Why is Brady still Why 484 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: is he chasing this Raiders thing. 485 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 6: Well, I think that, well, he never wants to get 486 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 6: into coaching, and I mean the great players never want 487 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 6: to get into coaching because the hours are too long. 488 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 6: I mean, you know that's Howl and those hours are 489 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 6: and he wanted to be involved in And I don't 490 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 6: know where the relationship with Mark Davis started, but. 491 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: Almost started when he was leaving and he wanted to 492 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: go to the Raiders, right and at at the time 493 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders had who is Derek Carr and they didn't 494 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: want to get rid of Derek Carr. 495 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 8: Well, I think that Mark Davis did warn him, and 496 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 8: Gluten didn't, Bruton didn't correct. Yeah, but I don't know, 497 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 8: like what the connection was, if there was a connection 498 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 8: prior to that between Davis and Brady, because now it 499 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 8: evolved into you know, Davis selling five percent of his 500 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 8: team to Tom and five percent to Tom's partner. I 501 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 8: don't know how it evolved from him wanted to go 502 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 8: play for the Raiders to agree to sell part of. 503 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 6: His team to him. The connection had to be deeper somewhere. 504 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 6: I just don't know what it is. But you know, 505 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 6: Tom is incredibly competitive and this is a way for 506 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 6: him to kind of stay in it. The Raiders are 507 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 6: just like an interesting I wouldn't have guessed. I would 508 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 6: have guessed like the Dolphins because he lived in Florida, 509 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 6: or you know, maybe Craft because he considers him his 510 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 6: fifth son. He would have sold them five percent of 511 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 6: the Patriots, you know, with the other ninety five percent 512 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 6: is going to stay in the Craft family. I never 513 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: would have guessed the Raiders, especially because it's it's like 514 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 6: so far from home, and you know, Tom is a 515 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 6: really good dad, and two of his kids live in 516 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 6: Florida and one lands in New York, and you know 517 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: he travels enough for Fox and to think that, you know, 518 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 6: on his day off, presumably he flew to Vegas to 519 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 6: sit and watch the game last night. By the way, 520 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 6: this whole thing with him sitting with headsets in the 521 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 6: coaches both last night. The NFL issued some kind of 522 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 6: innocuous statement today that you know, you know, Tom is 523 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 6: still not allowed to go into So they all these meetings, 524 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 6: the production's meetings have to be virtual. And that's the 525 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 6: rule that they changed them this year. Last year couldn't 526 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 6: be in the meanings at all, Doug next this coming week, 527 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 6: Brady's got the Cowboys and the Bears, and he's going 528 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 6: to be laught to sit in the production meetings virtually, 529 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 6: and he's allowed to talk to players on the field 530 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 6: the following week the Raiders play the Bears. Is there 531 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 6: anybody who doesn't think that information that Brady picks up 532 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 6: on the Bears working the game this week is not 533 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 6: going to be turned over to the Raiders who then 534 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 6: play the Bears. I mean, this is this is such 535 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 6: an incredible conflict of interest, And I didn't think that 536 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 6: until I saw what happened last night. Going to keep it. 537 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: The optics, the optics for optics, for optics were not good. 538 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 6: Optics were not. 539 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: Good because because there's there's part of it that I 540 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: like it, you know, if you bring it as a broadcaster, 541 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: the inside knowledge. But in a in a league which 542 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: everybody is paranoid and considering he was part of the 543 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: Patriots with spy gay and all the other stuff, Yeah, 544 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: it's a terrible look. It's a terrible look for the 545 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: golden boy of the Yeah. 546 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: I mean, Doug, it's fine for him to get inside knowledge. 547 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 6: I mean what Collinsworth and Akman and all those guys do. Sure, 548 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 6: they work it really hard. But they're not working for 549 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 6: a team. 550 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I get it. I get it. It's 551 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: it's bizarre. Gary, this is gonna be really good. I 552 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be another best seller. Gary Myer's New 553 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: York Times best selling author, longtime sports writer covering the NFL. 554 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: The book is called Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. 555 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: It's out today. Wherever you get your books or your 556 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: audio books, pick it up. Gary, Thanks so much for 557 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: your time. I really appreciate it. 558 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 6: Doug, thanks for having me on, and good luck this 559 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 6: basketball season. 560 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 561 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 562 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 563 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: App Stug got Lib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 564 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: Be sure check out our new YouTube channel for the show. 565 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: Just go to YouTube dot com slash at Doug Gottlieb Show. 566 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: If you're already within YouTube, just search Doug Gottlieb Show, 567 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there, hit the thumbs 568 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: up icon and comment away. You can tell me how 569 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 1: incredible my takes are. Go check out our brand new 570 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: channel on YouTube again, just search Doug Gottlieb Show, Let's 571 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: get to the press, the press. Dan byro what he got, 572 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: but Doug. 573 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 7: The National Football League says that Las Vegas Raiders minority 574 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 7: owner Tom Brady is allowed to send the team's coaches 575 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 7: booth during games, and he did not violate any NFL 576 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 7: rules by doing so during last night's contest against the Chargers. 577 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: H letter of the lost spear of the law again, 578 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: I love when broadcasters have great insight. I think having 579 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: him tied in the league is awesome. That was a 580 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: terrible look. There's just no other way, Like, that's just 581 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: can you do it? Yeah? But what was the Chris 582 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: rock line? You can drive a car with your feet, 583 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: But that doesn't make it a good idea. 584 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 7: It's got a lot of good lines. We always use THEE. 585 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 7: That's what you're supposed to do. Jerry Jones weighing in 586 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 7: on the Cowboys. Not there one on one record, but 587 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 7: maybe the thirty seven points they gave up to the 588 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 7: Giants this past Sunday. 589 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: As much as anything, it's bang into the scheme. You've 590 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: got to handle your responsibilities and you've got to really 591 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: do that all over the defense, whether it's back in 592 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: or whether it's up on the front. You've got to 593 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: do your responsibility, that's first and foremost, and then make 594 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: that play if it's there. But the main thing is 595 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: you can't just be there trying to make a play. 596 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: You've got to have your responsibilities, make sure that's covered 597 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: before you abandon that area and try to go out 598 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: and make a play. You can't be a lone ranger 599 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: out there. You've got to be a part of the team. 600 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: That's the hard part, getting it together so that everybody's 601 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: doing their. 602 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 7: Jerry talking scheme and buying into that scheme. On one 603 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 7: oh three point five of the fan in. 604 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Dallas, that's the old do your job right, do your job. 605 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: We don't need you doing somebody else's job. Just do 606 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: your job. 607 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 7: Also Jerry saying, hey, it's not the players on the field, 608 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 7: it's those players buying into the scheme. This is always 609 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 7: a fun time of year when quarterbacks get injured. There 610 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 7: are other names that pop up. Desmond Ritter, former Cincinnati 611 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 7: quarterback Bearcat I'm talking about and former Falcon starter now 612 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 7: sign of the Vikings because of JJ McCarthy's injury. The Bengals, 613 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 7: speaking of which they signed Brett Rippon to their active rosters. 614 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 7: They placed Joe Burrow and I Are. They also signed 615 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 7: Mike White and Sean Clifford to their practice squad. 616 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: Sewn Clifford nice former packer. Yeah, Mike White also from 617 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: a RAM longtime RAM right check Cliverers like the backup 618 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: of the Rams for a good amount of time. 619 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 7: Mike White again was the yes right Yes. Remember they 620 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 7: had the T shirts and kind kind of took Zach 621 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 7: Wilson's tenure and threw it off the tracks because of 622 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 7: how well Mike White played. But Mike was with Buffalo 623 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 7: training camp. 624 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: Real quick, check out your phone real quick. I sent 625 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: you a picture that Kyler Murray put on Instagram. How 626 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: do He's wearing a Mike vic jersey and he's petting 627 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: what appears to be his pet pitbull. Does he not know? 628 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 4: No, No, he definitely knows. 629 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 7: I think that Mike Vick wouldn't probably appreciate that. 630 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would. Anybody like uh, always too soon, 631 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: always too. 632 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 7: Soon Ram said coach Sean McVay revealed that he tore 633 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 7: the Planter fascia in his foot during Sunday's win in 634 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 7: Tennessee on the team's sideline. 635 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so the planner fashion when you tear it is 636 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: actually like a good thing like that actually starts the 637 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: healing process or whatever. But it's gonna hurt. It hurts 638 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: like a you know what when it happens. But then 639 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: I think you have surgery at heels. That's the only 640 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: way to get to heel fully. Otherwise you just walk 641 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: around in intense pain until you have time to rest. 642 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 7: Last year, I signed up for Paramount Plus or I 643 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 7: should say last spring because of the added coverage they 644 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 7: were providing for the Masters on the weekend. Now we've 645 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 7: got added coverage on Thursday and Friday. Recently, we would 646 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 7: have coverage starting at three eastern noon Pacific on ESPN 647 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 7: of the first and second round of the Masters. Now 648 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 7: Amazon Prime is getting into the mix. They will be 649 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 7: broadcasting two hours prior to the switchover to ESPN. So 650 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 7: on Thursday and Friday of Masters week, you can watch 651 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 7: competition on Amazon Prime from one o'clock until three o'clock 652 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 7: Eastern time. 653 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: So what does this do to Did ESPN lose their coverage? 654 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: No, no, it's just in addition to that. 655 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 7: But they're providing options for more people to work. They 656 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 7: will still give you the featured group's option. I'm sure 657 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 7: Autmasters dot Com and on the Masters app also Amen 658 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 7: Corner Holes fifteen and sixteen. All of that will still 659 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 7: be featured, but your actual broadcast will just start earlier 660 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 7: and it will go from Amazon Prime over to ESPN. 661 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Okay. So the Masters, which used to be you can 662 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: ever watch everything, now you can see anything you want. 663 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 7: You're starting to get yes, and it's a limited field. 664 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 7: There's usually only eighty five to ninety players on average 665 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 7: per year, so it's not like the USA, the US 666 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 7: Open where you can go from sun up to sundown 667 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 7: and watch play, or the Open Championship. This is a 668 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 7: limited There is a limited window, so there are so 669 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 7: many hours. But now you're getting twenty seven hours of 670 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 7: broadcast coverage over the Masters four days in augusta national 671 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 7: that's pretty good. Dallas Stars guard Page Becker's name the 672 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 7: WNBA's Rookie of the Year, not a un Adamus pick, 673 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 7: receiving all but two first place votes. 674 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 4: Doug. 675 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 7: The Stars did not make the WNBA playoffs, but tonight 676 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 7: there are two games. Atlanta's at Indiana, Las Vegas is 677 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 7: at Seattle, and. 678 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: That's press by get out there and Pressed. 679 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: That was the press have. 680 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: Not mentioned Phillies clinch the NL East wild game at 681 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: the Ravine. That's probably why Jason was so down today. 682 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: We'll cheer him up. Download the podcast you want to 683 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: hear the show. It's entirety. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. 684 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio